December 6, 2025 • 62 mins
A small-town filmmaker chases a production dream in Las Vegas and ends up on the wrong set—his own bedroom. When Jordan writes in about Emily, a partner who drifted from private tapes to public uploads and then into a brief stint with a porn studio, we unpack the messy middle between curiosity, consent, and consequences. The internet’s promise of fast fame collides with the slow work of building a creative career, and the gap between those worlds is wider than it looks on a phone screen.
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SPEAKER_02 (03:43):
Yes, yeah, we're gonna get started here in just a
second.
Trying to get my thoughts and myshit together.
(05:10):
How's everybody doing out there?
Thank y'all for tuning in to theshow.
A little bit scattered today.
Hopefully I can hear me okay.
(05:31):
Wanna welcome y'all to the show.
I am the icon and the show iscalled Let's Talk About It.
Where I get emails from loyallisteners or listeners, or just
people that just want advice.
You know, just I'm nobodyspecial.
I just like to give advice, orso some people say.
(05:52):
Hope you guys can hear me okay.
How's everybody in the chat?
Chat room doing everybody doinggood?
We good?
Oh right, yeah.
So today got an email from alistener who's kinda uh kind of
up in arms about hisrelationship with his uh his
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girl or um kind of an odd one.
I would have never thought I uhwould hear some shit like this,
but I guess it's a new year,it's a new age, and you never
know what I'm gonna come across.
So but I hope everybody's doinggood out there.
Hopefully your week has gonebetter, hopefully your day's
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gone better.
Hopefully everything iseverything.
So I've had a great week, youknow, work, work, and more work
and more work.
Seems like all this work and oneday maybe this shit will pay
off.
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I'm still trying to wait forthat lottery win, as well as the
rest of the world, but you know,is what it is though.
I don't know if I'd what I'd doif I did win the lottery.
I'd probably go insane, probablygo crazy, but it's all good.
In any event, we have a showtoday called Not the Life I
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Wanted.
And when I read this for thefirst time, I was like, damn,
for real.
But it's what it is, so it's allgood.
So without further ado, let'sget into the show on here and
let's talk about it.
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Whether I'm your host, the icon.
Anyways, as I said, it's titledNot the Life I Want It.
Icon.
What's up?
My name is Jordan.
Last name not important, as wellas it usually isn't, but hey,
whatever.
And you will soon know why.
But bro, I'm kind of faced withsome heat that's been bothering
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me, and I need your advice.
Fair warning, I just startlistening to your show.
Well, you know, it's better latethan never.
You know, so some people tune inat the last minute, some people
just don't tune in, they justwant the advice.
But in any event, Mr.
Jordan, I appreciate the letter.
No cap, bro.
I feel like you can relate tosome of the issues, but not all,
and again, you will soon knowwhy.
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So, first of all, I live in LasVegas, or some call Sin City,
and I definitely see why.
Yeah, it's definitely Sin City.
So I'm not originally from here,I'm from North Carolina, small
town or farming town.
I honestly came out here for avacation and things.
Things I thought I went welluntil I met a young lady and
decided to follow my heart withher.
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That's usually the way ithappened.
By the way, I'm 25 years old.
So I wanted to come out here andjust to see the side of the US
and wanted to have a career inproduction.
So I kind of set up shop outhere, but this is clearly not
the kind of production I wantedto do.
So this girl I've met, Emily,was also a small town girl like
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me, but I'm a guy, clearly, Iunderstand that.
And though she has been here awhile longer than me, we've met
on a sightseeing tour.
She was actually the only personI've met since I've been here.
But to be honest, some thingsare not what they seem, bruh.
This chick is literally crashingat random people, random people
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at one point, and I'm sure shewas homeless because I always
offered to drop her off with anUber, but she was like, nah, I'm
good.
So I was like, whatever, it'scool.
So we started to chill a lot.
And it got good, but stillpuzzles me on what sh what the
hell she does, because she'salways with me.
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But that's not the issue.
The issue is that she knows Ilove doing production because of
my equipment.
Which is nothing specialspecial, just some cameras, my
laptop, and my stabilizer.
So we went we went on the wewent to shoot some capture
scenes, and she was always therewith me, and I thought to
myself, damn, this chick isclingy.
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Not clingy, maybe she's justprobably a small town guy that
she's met in a long time.
Or whatever.
But nevertheless, I kept rollingwith it.
You know what?
I mean, so there's so here'swhere we started crashing out.
We had sex, I decided to film itto see what it could be what
what what we could dodifferently.
Shit's crazy I know.
(10:33):
Yeah, it is, because usually youdon't film yourself having sex
to be like, oh, what can I dodifferently?
Okay, hold on, maybe I can getokay.
Okay, here we go.
So but we did, and it startedout as fun, but then she wanted
to have friends over and wantedme to film, wanted to film and
sometimes join in.
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Being the guy that thinks withhis head, I indulge, and not
yes, his head, not his head ontop of his icon.
Tell me why this chick posted avideo on a site that I did not
that I don't want you to knowabout because someone might know
me and see me.
Now keep that keep that shit G14classified.
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The site that she showed got alot of views.
Views like she wanted to keepgoing because she said this
could be her big break.
And I was like, what the hell?
Big break?
Foreign?
I didn't sign up to produceforeign.
That's not me.
Damn sure didn't what I want tostart in this kind of shit.
So we had an argument, and shewas like, if you love me, you
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would let me do this becauseit's been hard for me since I've
been in Vegas.
So I tried icon.
I know that this is every man'sdream, but that's not me.
I have dreams of being a writerand a producer, not this shit.
But I caved and we did it again.
Of course you did.
So we made about 10 videos.
God damn, I can only barely getto one, but whatever.
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Okay, so we caved and I madeabout 10 videos, and she used it
for an audition that I didn'tknow know about, and she got a
part in this porn productionthat quickly dipped.
That I quickly wait a minute, Ididn't know about, and she got a
part in a product in a pornproduction that I quickly dipped
out of.
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So needless to say that we weredone, of course, because I can't
share my girl with another man,especially since all this
happens in Vegas, and just myluck I run to the guy who was
literally piping down my girl.
Hell no, I got okay.
So apparently it didn't work outthe way she wanted to, because
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she called four weeks ago andsaid that she didn't like what
she was doing because there wasa lot that goes into producing
porn, and that the pay is noteven worth it.
Well, I can tell you it damnsure ain't worth it what it was
back in the day.
Uh, I mean, but we'll get intothat.
She thought that she was goingto come up big with that check,
but was sadly mistaken.
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She wanted to meet up later orsomething, and we did, but icon.
I was very cautious about seeingher.
I mean, it's only been fourweeks, and I thought it would be
I thought it would be itwouldn't be that bad, so I met
her and damn, she had a lot tosay.
Let's start with the obvious.
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She first told me she wanted tocome back, and I was like, why?
Because we're not going back tofilming porn.
She told me that she thought shecould handle porn because she
thought it was going to be aquick paycheck.
But for the four weeks she wasthere, she only made$2,500.
Now, I don't know what the goingrate for porn is these days, but
that seems pretty low.
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And because she said she didn'twant to do things, was asked to
do like Hano, Yang Bang, threeguys and one girl, and
everything else she could thinkof.
She said that the guys thatpiped, that the guys that she
got wait, she said that thatguys that get piped down with
her were just hideous.
SPEAKER_01 (14:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (14:08):
Meaning that these guys weren't the best, they
weren't the pick of the litter.
So she said the guy that did theinterview was fat and smell, but
she had to do do it to himbecause it was part of the
interview, and that she didn'twant facials or cream pies.
So I was like, what the hellwere you thinking?
And I seen Dude.
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He looked like I seen Dude.
He looks like he's the type thatalways likes to pay to play.
Dude looks like a low brand, uh,like a low Brandon Fraser in
that movie The Well.
Did you see that movie?
No, I didn't see that movie TheWell.
I I hear good things though.
So I asked her what did she do?
She said mostly roleplay,shower, or cleaning.
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There was another girl that dideverything else.
Oh, and she didn't do oral.
She was always asked forprotection because one of the
girls caught the clap.
Caught the clap.
Wait, really?
I'm sure you know what that is.
Yeah, who does it?
An SDD doesn't know what thedamn clap is.
So I was disgusted and satisfiedat the same time.
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But my question is, Icon,knowing what you know, I want
your honest opinion.
Because I think she is sincereand that she wants a fresh
start.
I also asked her what she wantedto do differently if we got back
together.
She said starting OnlyFans.
But she said she was justjoking.
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She wanted to learn to shewanted to learn production and
photography with me, so I saidthat's cool.
So yeah, that is uh okay, Mr.
Jordan.
Well, let's start with theobvious thing.
Um I think I I don't know, youknow?
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I I I don't know.
I don't know because I thinkthat your girl did porn, she
tried porn, she didn't like it.
So maybe it's a good sign.
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I don't know what porn paysthese days.
I I honestly don't know.
I know back in the day porn wasin high demand.
It was I mean, the porn at backin my day don't look like the
shit it looks like now becauseanybody can get into porn, like
literally anybody.
All you gotta do is have awebcam, a bedroom, and a bed,
and you set up, and that'sthat's basically it.
But I don't know how much thesepeople made.
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Now I know back in the day, uh,back in the day, porn producers
made I mean, porn porn starsmade a lot of money because it
was something different, and youdidn't have like a lot of stuff
that you have like now, like youhad.
I mean, I'm not sure if anybodyremembers that uh porn clip of
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two guys and one two girls andone cup.
That was some sick shit.
That was sick, but I'm not gonnaget into that.
But in any event, you said yourgirl tried porn, she didn't like
it.
Um, that's probably a goodthing, maybe.
I think.
I mean, clearly in this day andage, there's a lot that goes
into porn.
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I mean, back in my day, I thinkthe highest we had was a chick
that did like almost a thousandguys, and back then we didn't
have like digital mainstreamporn on the computer.
You had to actually go buy thevideo to watch it.
Now you can like watch anybodydo anything on porn and like
just a click of a button orswipe of a key or whatever.
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So I think that and I'm gonnagive my honest opinion.
I think that Miss Emily is veryrespectful of herself, and she's
respectful of her body, and thatshe did not know what this would
entail.
Now, there is a video that Iseen a while back there.
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I don't know if it's real, butthere was a young lady who
wanted to do porn and and shewent in for an interview.
Now, first off, I I mean I guessthis shit happens in the porn
industry.
You go in for an interview andyou bang the guy that's
interviewing you.
That is a huge red flag.
I mean, because like she said,most of these guys are just
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they're just they're fat,they're sloppy, they don't have
anything going for themselves,it's just for them to get a
quick lay, and then you gottasign this waiver saying that you
won't sue me or anything likethat.
It's crazy, but it's weird.
I mean, could you imagine?
Hey, I got an interview today.
Well, which what's it for?
Foreign?
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Okay, get your interview.
Okay, alright, take the pantsoff.
Let's get this going.
Alright, so what do you likedoing while he's piping you
down?
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
But whatever.
In any event, um, she's verycautious.
And I give Emily her propsbecause there's a lot of stuff
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in porn that she didn't want todo.
She didn't want to do thefacial, she didn't want to do
the cream pie, she didn't wantto do uh the gangbang or stuff
like that.
Because and then you ask for acondom, which I didn't think
they really do in porn, but Iguess if you're the main star,
the main attraction, you havesome control over it, and even
if you don't have control overit, um, then you don't have to
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do it.
So, which kudos to you forsaying that, hey, I'm not doing
this shit because I'm not tryingto catch what she got.
And I thought, correct me wrong,I thought that in the porn
business that you have to getregularly tested for an STD.
Now, I know that doesn't alwayswork.
SPEAKER_01 (19:43):
And excuse me.
Now give me a second.
SPEAKER_02 (19:50):
And because back then you had to get tested, and
I'm not sure if that goes thesame way like now.
And let's be honest, I watched alot of Forn in my day.
And I watched foreign bloopers.
I watched the making of Forn.
But getting back to this onegirl, I'm sorry, I'm going to
jump off the subject here.
But this one girl that she wentin for the interview.
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And then immediately she didn'tknow how to do like anything.
So Vacancy was just like, youcan probably tell she was
probably a small town girl whoreally clearly hasn't
experienced what the world hadto offer.
I mean, she was fresh out, shewas 18, and she thought that she
was going to, like Miss Emilythought, was going to get a big
check.
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Now it was sad because duringthis whole interaction, this
girl is like crying.
I'm thinking, like, how can thisguy film this if she's crying?
It doesn't clearly look like shewas enjoying it.
And then at the end, um, he gaveher facial, which she said she
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didn't want.
And then for those who don'tknow what a facial is, a facial
is when a guy like skeets allover your face or whatever.
SPEAKER_01 (21:02):
Encrypted audio communication.
SPEAKER_02 (21:05):
Um hang on, let me turn my phone down.
So a facial is when a guy likejust skeets all over your face.
Face is what it is.
Now, when this was happening,the girl started crying and she
was upset.
And then I mean I felt bad forher, and I was like, Why would
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you even show this?
And I don't even think the videowas even posted to a porn site
per se.
I think it's just one of thosesites where um they were just
interviewing this girl and shelike felt well, she didn't they
didn't interview her, but theguy had posted it saying that
this chick does not want to doporn, but I don't know.
But here's the thing porn islike a it just depends really.
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I mean, I know there's a lot ofcollege girls that do it, and I
know that they try to do that topay their bills, and some people
do it because of I mean, you gota body, you look good, so I
think you could think you canget away with it, but I just
think it's just not, and I mean,we've all maybe we've all had
these thoughts.
Maybe we all, I mean, I know Idid, you know, my wife.
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I was like, girl, we should doporn, but it is really a lot
that goes into porn, it's justnot the you know, you have you
often wonder how long the guycan last during porn.
Well, let's be real clear,nobody can last that damn long.
I mean, unless I can be provenwrong, but going that long in
porn is just ridiculous.
So I took the livery and Iwatched it, and I watched how
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porn was made and how it wasproduced.
I mean, they take a lot of cutsin between because the guy is
just, I mean, let's just sayhe's not a stallion, he's not
like a freaking stud, so he'sgotta take a break.
But when I seen this, I waslike, oh my god, there's really
a lot that goes into this.
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I mean, there's like, andthere's like a whole dialogue
and a whole plot and everything,you know.
It's like you're not just goingin just to say, hey, come in and
pipe me down, you gotta work upthe storyline and everything,
whether it's a milk guy oryou're just sitting on the
couch, or the most common one isa maid, which is so far-fetched,
so stupid.
But hey, it is what it is.
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But when I seen the making ofit, I was like, this is
ridiculous.
This is man, it does take a lotof work to go into porn.
I mean, it's just not like ashooting, I mean, it's not like
right now where you can.
Okay, so now porn is like it'sbasically a website that you can
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just go on and you know, peopledo whatever.
Now, let's be honest, I've onlymet one guy that can get it up
after 30 minutes, and that was achick I used to work with, and
her dude could go like forhours, and I was kind of
hesitant about it.
I didn't know, I didn't see it,but she told me you did.
That's probably why she stayedwith him.
But in any event, not my tea, Idon't really care, I don't give
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a damn.
But real talk.
So I think what we have here,Mr.
Jordan, is Miss Emily is feelingsome kind of regret, and I get
it, we all have to kind ofexperience something to say that
not that we tried it, but ifit's gonna be a right fit for
us, no pun intended, but if it'sgonna be a right fit for us, and
in this case, it wasn't a rightfit for Miss Emily.
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I mean, like I said, clearly shewould get lined up with these
guys, and you know, how is that?
You know, you go into work oneday, you're like, Okay, this is
the guy you're gonna be pipingyou down today.
Really?
This guy?
I mean, there's not even no kindof I guess I don't even know
where you get these guys from.
I mean, it's just crazy.
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But it's fun to do if you'retogether, like if you're a
couple.
Now, the part that you said thatyou guys filmed yourself because
you wanted to see what you cando differently.
I don't know what that's about.
I've never heard that before.
That's like hold on, girl.
Okay, yeah.
Alright, all right.
Let me try this again.
Oh, oh, oh, wait, wait, okay,maybe if I last long if I do
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this.
Oh no, no, no, but in any event,it's what it is.
So let's point out some thingsin this here letter.
So a female, depending on thefemale, stands to make a lot of
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money in porn, depending on whatshe's willing to do and how far
she's willing to take it.
Now, Miss Emily did not want todo anal, gangbang, three guys,
and one girl.
I get it.
Because I don't, I just don't, Ican't really see that.
I really can't.
I mean, listen.
And you're probably thinking,like, well, Derek, you know, uh,
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you watch porn yourself.
Well, yeah, I do, but I watch itjust because of this and join
the watch.
It's not something I mean.
Sometimes you get bored, and youknow, you just uh, what's this
about?
What's that about?
I mean, there's some weird stuffout there, it really is.
So, in any event, you made only$2,500, which is clearly not a
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lot.
And the going rate for porn backin our day was probably a little
bit like maybe double, if nottriple that.
But as time got older and as theinternet blew up, then porn is
like it's phenomenal.
I mean, anybody's doing pornthese days.
I mean, all you need is a like Isaid, a phone really, and then
you you're up and running.
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I've been on a lot of thesesites and I've seen a lot of
stuff that these people do.
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
But now the whole pay mechanismwith a pay scale is done in
tokens or coins or um some othergod-given thing.
I mean, I get it, and like Isaid, and for some of these
other countries, that's prettymuch all they have, you know,
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because they're beautiful women,and you know, that's what they
have.
But I'm not sure what Mr.
Jordan and Miss and Miss Emilywere thinking about.
But like I said, if you want totry something and you want to
see if it's gonna work, then youtry it.
Yeah, you might have got a lotof views on the hit on the
video, but that doesn'tnecessarily mean to say you need
to go do porn because you thinkit's the best thing ever.
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Now, I honestly don't get thewhole model of throwing money at
a site and you know just goingcrazy with it.
I don't get it.
I mean, but it is what it is.
Like I said, I'm not I think atbest I might have spent maybe oh
maybe 50 to 60 dollars.
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I mean, I know some people whohave a really, really, really
bad, bad deal with porn.
I mean, and it can be addictive,but here's the thing that I tell
people it can control you if youlet it.
Now, there's a limit.
It's okay to spend a few buckshere, a few bucks there, but if
you start getting off into thehundreds, into the thousands,
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then clearly you have a problem,a seriously problem.
Because to me, it's all fantasy.
I can't physically touch you, Ican't physically um tell you
that I love you.
I can only type it to you andsay that hey, I love you.
That's all I can do.
But I can't touch you, and youcan tell me, baby, I love you,
and this, that, and the other.
But do you though?
Come on now, it's a business.
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So of course you're gonna makeme feel good.
So but let me get back to thisletter.
Let's not worry about myproblems, let's get back to this
letter.
So I think that Miss Emily, um Ithink she's very humble.
I think that she learned maybe alesson, and I think that she is
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just trying to find her placebecause I don't know why
everybody goes to Las Vegas totry to find themselves.
There's plenty of other statesthat you can go to in the US to
find yourself.
Now, I get it, Las Vegas is likethe sin capital of the world, or
maybe in the United States, I'mnot really sure.
I think the sex capital, I don'tknow, I think it's in Germany.
I don't know.
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Anyone know?
Anyone?
I don't know.
Any event, um in Vegas, they saywhat happens in Vegas stays in
Vegas, but prostitution is legalin Vegas.
Now, and then of course there'sa lot of a lot of headhunters.
Uh not not literally, butfiguratively speaking, a lot of
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headhunters that go out therelooking for younger women or
looking at younger girls andsay, hey, you can have a career
doing modeling.
And it turns out the modelingyou're doing, you in a modeling
shoot with a guy who's gettingready to pipe you down.
Like I thought I was gonna be amodel.
Oh, you're gonna be a model, allright.
Yeah, you're gonna be thismodel.
Here, let's take this milk, andI want you to walk in there and
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say this line.
That's the kind of model they'retalking about you doing.
But hey, like I said, it's whatit is, it's it's it's good.
Like I said, if you never trysomething and you want to give
it a try, uh maybe try to dothat shit in private.
I don't know.
But I'm trying to figure out howlong that you were out there
that you well, you said you metJordan and he's got this photo
equipment, so maybe that wasyour big brain.
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I mean, listen, Jordan.
I think if you want to do be awriter and do production, I
think you should go do that.
And if you have still if you'restill with Miss Emily, I would
say, I don't know.
You know, people in thecomments, what do you guys
think?
Do you guys think he should takeher back?
I think he should take her backbecause of why I think she's
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very cautious about who she wasand what she was doing.
I don't really see an issue withit, but I do understand where
Jordan is coming from.
You know, you can't be out therein Vegas, and you know, you were
going to and you're out on thespot, and then you see the guy
that you was basically pipingyou down, like, oh yeah, I know
her from work.
Really?
What's your work?
(30:50):
You know what my work is, damnit.
You know what it is.
But I get it, but I don't thinkshe was being malicious when she
was doing this.
I think that she saw a quickpaycheck and thought the come up
was gonna be good.
Well, clearly the come up wasn'tgood.
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I mean, let's be honest.
I mean, men don't have it asgood as women do.
The only way men have it is ifyou have if you're hung like a
horse or you're a mandingo, realtalk, and even with that in
mind, I still can't fathom how awoman would want to have sex
with that, but whatever.
Ugh.
I mean, listen, I'm average, I'mgood with that.
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You know, God gave me this gift,and I'm gonna keep it the way it
is.
I'm not enhancing myself becauseI've seen some you know, point
out there where brother justlike hung like a horse.
Like, damn, who does that?
Jesus.
I mean, it's gotta not be goodfor the women, it can be good
for the women because that comeswith a lot of long-term damage.
I mean, let's say that you're inyour 20s and you're getting
piped down by this man dingoover time, then over time that's
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gotta wear down on you.
It really does.
So, and when I do see peoplethat's getting older and older,
and then they still want to doporn, then I don't know because
I just can't imagine laying onmy back all damn day, or you
know, whatever.
It's just not me, I don't getit.
But in any event, I think thatyou she did mostly role-playing,
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shower or cleaning, and therewas another girl that did
everything else.
So I'm clearly thinking thatwhen you seen this other girl,
that that didn't entice you tosay, Hey, I want to do that.
I think you were having a amoment where you thought that,
and I'm you know, I'm justcurious if that girl that you
seen, what was her paychecklike?
Because let's be honest, again,porn is a diamond doesn't
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industry.
There are fresh talent, freshgirls every damn day.
And there was this one I waslooking at where this guy was
doing an interview, and he wassaying, Well, the girls were
fighting because and I was like,What were they fighting for?
Because they wanted to go next,or who wanted to go next, or
this, that, and the other.
I didn't think a lot of thisshit really happens.
I mean, if you guys get achance, maybe Google this stuff
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and see what it is because itwas like really freaking weird,
like real talk weird.
But in any event, the low brutallow budget Brandon Fraser thing
took me out.
I didn't see the whale, but Iknow Brandon Fraser had to put
on weight to do that role.
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But I can imagine what thisgirl's going through.
But again, like I said, Mr.
Jordan, I think that you shouldtake this girl back.
I think you guys should get offto a fresh start, and I also
think you guys should get out ofVegas.
Now, if not getting out ofVegas, maybe go to a neighboring
city far away from Vegas.
Because here's the other thingwith porn if you do porn, it is
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out there forever.
There's no getting it back,there's no deleting trying to,
it's not like the old days.
Back in the old days, we hadPolaroids, we had VHS cassette
tapes, so that could be deleted,and nobody would never know
about it.
So excuse me.
So you doing this is saying thatit's gonna be out there.
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So now I'm glad you didn't shareit with me because I wasn't
gonna share it with theaudience, anyways.
Because, like I said, I like towhen you guys write me, I like
to keep everything a little bitunder wraps and kind of
confidential so you guys don'tget bashed be like, Oh, I heard
you on the show, and ha ha, it'syou, yada yada yada.
No, I don't do that because Iwant to respect your privacy and
I want to respect who you are asa person.
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And I don't really think it'sbad that you guys try this.
I don't, I just think that likeI said, you're both young,
you're 25.
I'm not sure you didn't say howold Miss Emily was, but clearly
she's old enough, so and I thinkwhat you guys had in the
beginning was a good thing, andthe good thing being that you
guys had a relationship, youguys decided to try some things
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out and experiment some things,do that, but your girl doesn't
have to take the video, or sheshouldn't have taken the video
and posted online because again,that shit is forever, and when
it's forever, it is forever.
You better hope you don't getinto politics or anything like
that because as we know, TikTokwill ruin you.
I mean, damn the media, damn thePI investigation, TikTok will
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ruin you.
They will find you in less than10 seconds.
All you got, all they need is aname, and somebody's always
quick drawing them grall.
I mean they're quick.
So this letter is kind ofdifferent because as I said
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before, when I read this letter,I was thinking to myself, this
is weird.
I've never heard had somebodywrite me and tell me that they
were trying to do porn, but itdidn't work out so well for
them.
But like I said, I commend you,Emily, for being a humble person
in trying to do this.
Now I know it didn't work outfor you, and I think that with
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you doing this experience, Ithink that's only gonna push you
to be something better or dosomething better and something
different.
So before you give up, youshould think about the reason
why you hung on so long.
So this is clearly saying thatdon't give up on your dreams
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just because you had this oneminor incident.
Now, I don't know if you guyshave tried to delete the videos
online.
Maybe you have, maybe youhadn't, but again, it doesn't
matter if you delete it becausesomebody already has it.
And when somebody already hasit, it's fair game, you know.
When you put shit out there onthe internet, that shit stays
forever.
Doesn't matter what it is, it'sout there.
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Ooh, sorry, this weather sucksbad.
Jesus.
But and the thing is that maybeyou should have done OnlyFans
first because that I can't thinkI'm saying this, but I don't
know.
People make a lot of money onOnlyFans, and it's mostly women.
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I mean, we've seen teachers anddoctors and everybody else make
money on OnlyFans.
I'm like, really?
How's that?
I mean, a guy like me can'tnever do no shit like that.
I don't even understand how orwhat I would start to do stuff
like that.
I mean, at best, you'd probablyjust see me walk around
butt-necked in my room.
I don't think I can't do thatbecause I got kids.
I don't want my kids seeing thisshit.
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I mean, they're like, and thenthey go to school, like, man, I
think I seen your dad.
He's got an OnlyFans account.
Like, no, my daddy ain't got noOnlyFans account.
No, you do.
He do.
I don't think I could do that.
But you guys aren't a couplethat has kids, so that's
probably a good thing.
But for those of us that havekids and have these OnlyFans
accounts, it's like, oh man,then you got your friends
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worrying about it.
You know, like, oh man, youknow, so-and-so mom, yeah, don't
she?
She got the goods.
I I'll be in the bathroom allnight long with her.
Not literally with her, but youin the room in the bed.
It's crazy, right?
It is what it is.
So, in any event, it's crazy,but maybe you should have tried
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the OnlyFans.
I mean, that's a little bit moresubtle, a little bit more
softer.
And I'm not saying you're gonnaget back into there, but maybe
there's a part of you that wantsto see how this is gonna play
out, and I don't know.
I don't, I don't, I just don'tget it.
I don't, I don't, I don't know,you know.
God, I wish I had a listener tocome in and say something about
this.
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But but again, the fact that youthe mere fact that you have
obstacles to overcome is alwaysgonna be in your favor.
This is just a slow, a it's justa stepping stone, it's not
really a big hiccup because Idon't even think you said where
you're from, but he said he'sfrom a small town of North
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Carolina.
Well, if you're in a farmingtown and you're predominating
the country, well, they don'treally see a lot of city life or
uh any kind of life for thatmatter because they're in a
farming town, and mostly theyget on the and they get out of a
TV is either the news or what'sgoing on in the world.
So it's a good thing that youare from a small town and that
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maybe your parents won't seethis unless somebody decides to
be vindictive and send thisinformation to them.
I don't know.
I hope that's not the case, butI think that you both are on the
right track to do somethinggood, to do something better,
but definitely try to stay awayfrom this area.
Like I said, if your girl Emilywants to start a try the only
fans account, I don't know.
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I'm not endorsing, I'm justsaying.
But there's tons of other waysthat you can probably make
income if you enjoy showing yourbody.
Let's be honest.
I mean, I'm a man, I enjoylooking at the female body, and
I enjoy watching females um, youknow, doing like some maybe some
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porn.
I mean, let's be real, let's bereal about it.
I mean, I'm not gonna say, ew,that's disgusting, but it's it's
Just sometimes fun to watch.
Sometimes when you get bored,and you're like, oh, you watch
everything on TV, and then yougotta get this, you know,
because I'm that kind of guy,then I like to sit and think,
like, oh, I wonder what this is.
And then I type in, like, oh, sothat's what that is.
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Okay.
Yeah, that's that's what mygosh, that's crazy.
But in any event, listen.
If you guys are in the comments,please shoot me what you think
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he should do.
You think he should stay withher?
Would you stay with your girl ifshe did porn?
Would you knowing that shedidn't do everything that porn
required?
Because basically what I'm justgonna say is it's like a
relationship, it's like shestepped out and she cheated on
you, but she did it respectfullyand she did it in a humble and
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most protective way because mostnot most because from what I see
and what I hear, most girlsdon't even get that far.
And they're either I mean, oh mygod, there's this one there's
this one video I seen, and thisis on a site that I'm not gonna
say on bus from bus front uhbudcast, buscast, but it's a
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site that you can go to and thatpeople broadcast themselves, um,
either doing just sexual actsand you know whatever, and
that's how they make money.
But this guy that I seen had awhite and a black chick.
Now, mind you, this guy had anew up and coming channel, so
and I was like, okay, let's seewhat this is about.
I kid you not, I think becauseI'm not on the site frequently.
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Yes, I am.
No, I'm not nah nah, just jokewith you.
But I kid you not.
When we first seen the girls,they weren't pregnant, but I
think I checked into the sitelike maybe a month ago, and they
were both pregnant at the sametime, and then the comments are
going crazy, like, what thehell?
Make this make sense.
He's like, Well, we know who thefather is.
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I mean, dude, dude was reallypacking, dude was packing, real
talk.
But it's what it is though, so Ican't, I just can't.
I mean, to me, porn has a lot ofrisk.
There's a lot of risk, there's alot of uh things that I don't
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really uh I don't really like tono, I just I just couldn't.
I mean, could any of you guys dothat?
I mean, really, come on,comments light me up, tell me
something.
Can any of you guys do that?
If you had somebody that youtruly loved, I mean, would you
do it for the money?
I mean, would you just do itwith yourselves, like your
couple?
I mean, what would any of youguys do in the comments?
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Anybody?
Y'all too afraid to comment.
It's all good though.
So, but I would like to sayagain, I would go ahead and take
this girl back.
She seems like she is a goodgirl, she seems like she is on
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the right track to do somethingbigger, something better, and it
seems like your head is on uhnot uh not like that, but it
seems like you're both on theright track to be doing bigger
and better things.
So I would say that give heranother shot because in life, I
mean, clearly if she's not theone for you.
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Hold on.
If she's not the one for you,you clearly would have known
about that.
But I think when she came to youand she poured her heart out to
you, I think that was theultimately sacrificing because
I'm pretty sure she feltembarrassed about it.
I mean, I would have feltembarrassed about it, but I
mean, I'm pretty sure that she'sgotten tested since then, and
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she's in the free and clearbecause she didn't do half the
shit that porn requires her todo.
So I think that this young ladyis not only genuine, but I think
she's insincere on being who sheis, and I think that given the
opportunity, I don't think shewould go down this path again.
I think she would just um trysomething different.
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Um, but I don't think she woulddo something like this.
And I think if you guys were todo something like this again,
it'd be in the comfort of yourown home.
Because let's be honest, I mean,I can't really say I'm gonna
film myself doing my chick andtrying to figure out what I
didn't do correct or what Ididn't do right.
I don't know.
That's just I mean, it's fun,it's fun, but not if you're
sharing it with friends ornothing like that, but it's what
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it is, so it's all good, it'sgood.
Hang on.
So that's my take on this showtoday.
So it's my take.
I think that life is gonna throwyou curveballs, and it's up to
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you and how you navigate throughlife to overcome those
obstacles.
I mean, to me, I don't reallythink that this is a bad thing.
I just think it's just somethingthat you both got caught up in
and that she didn't like it, andyou can't tell me it didn't say
in the side that you say youdidn't love the girl, or
actually, I don't think y'allmentioned anything about love at
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all.
Well, yeah, you said youfollowed your heart.
But I think at the end of theday, I think that it's okay
because I don't think that she'sgonna get the kind of attention
that you think she's gonna get.
Because let's face it, she wasnew to this, and I don't think
there's anything that's worth Idon't think there's anything
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that's gonna say thisrelationship is destroyed.
I honestly don't think it is.
I think this relationship issalvageable because she didn't
really say how many guys she hadto do, but I don't think I think
it was just the producer or theguy that interviewed her and
maybe some other guy, but andagain, that's not bad compared
to what we see on the internetwhen a chick does a gangbang.
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Now, if she would have done someshit like that, then clearly you
need to run and keep runningbecause that is oh man, that's
some rough shit there.
I don't understand how women cando that to their bodies.
I mean, I get the wholethreesome thing, but the whole
like there's this one chick thatI just read upon, she did like a
thousand guys.
That's nothing new because wehad a chick back in the day that
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the same thing, and she was onthe Jerry Springer show, and she
had, I guess she held the worldthe Guinness World Book of
Records for Sleeping with theMost Guy.
I don't get it because I seenone of those two, and those are
not fun of a bunch of dudesstanding in line with a mask on,
waiting to pipe down one girl.
Clearly, not that deep, not thatdeep for me.
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And if you are that low whereyou need to have sex after
somebody, I mean, the only thingthat was lucky was the guy that
got the pipe her down firstbecause he went first, and then
after that, then these otherguys.
I mean, some had condoms, somehad didn't.
I was like, no, there's no wayin hell I'm going in after
somebody who's got oh no, who'sgot oh lord no.
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Now that is something worthsaying that girl, we ain't ever
getting back together becausethis is a wrap.
Not only did I watch you getpiped down by a thousand guys,
there is clearly, clearly nochance of us even having a
family or doing anythingremotely together because you
just pretty much destroyed yourbody, destroyed your any kind of
any credible reputation.
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I don't understand because it'snot really an award for
something like that.
I mean, if you do get a rewardfor that, it's kept in private,
so it's not like they're gonnabroadcast on the news and oh
well, this girl here did athousand guys a day, and then
she holds a new world record.
That's not some shit youbroadcast, that's some shit you
keep on the low.
I mean, real talk.
Who the hell does that?
But like I said, we've all beenwell, I'm assuming you've been
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I've been where you've at, I'vebeen where you've been, but I
haven't done it quite like that.
So we've all had some sexualfantasies that we would love to
do or that we've experienced,and that's what it is, it's just
a fantasy.
I mean, it's not something alifestyle I keep up and keep
going.
I mean, in this day and age,disease STDs are so susceptible
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than what it was back in theday.
I think back in the day we hadto worry about was AIDS, and
when AIDS jumped on the scene,it was like, oh my god, you
know, they were teaching like umsafe sex in school.
I'm not even sure if they teachthat shit anymore.
But I think that you are doinguh I think you're doing you're
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being more respectful toyourself and more respectful to
your body, but most of all,you're being respectful towards
any and everything that you'recoming across in life because
you want better for yourself.
So I know that in that momentthat you were thinking that
while you were doing this, likethis couldn't be my life, or why
don't this to be my life, andthat's a good thing.
And like I said, I don't thinkthat I think the videos that you
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guys had up there on the sitebefore, I think that'll get a
lot more viewplay, but I don'tthink that if this product uh
production company decided topost this video on you doing
whatever, I don't think it'sgonna be a big thing because
it's only you didn't really sayhow many videos you did, but or
did you I think you only saidthat well you did about 10
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videos with your boy Mr.
Jordan, so or y'all did about 10videos, but I don't think you
really did that many videos withthis production company because
you didn't last that long andyou only made$2,500.
Now$2,500 is not a lot considerI can buy I make that in about a
week, so it's not really alucrative job, but then again,
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you weren't really there to getyour feet really wet and put
yourself in that position toearn more money because as I
said before, when you're doingporn, it takes a lot to do porn,
it is just not a job you go intoand you just bang this guy and
then you're getting a paycheck.
No, there are so many takes andtakes and what you gotta do and
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how you gotta do it too, it'sjust ridiculous.
And like I said, being a pornproducer, which anybody can do
that, it's just it's different,you know.
I don't understand, and this isfor the men, I don't understand
why we feel the need that weneed to degrade a woman um if we
see she's in a in the she's in atough spot or in a vulnerable
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spot.
Now, I know that some womendeserve better and some women
want better, but sometimesthey're left with a situation
that they feel they have no hopeout of or can't come out of.
So that's not me.
I've never paid for sex, and Idon't plan on paying for sex.
I mean, I think it's not reallyit's just diabolical to pay for
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something that it's justbasically a service.
It's like you're I can't reallysay it's like you're going to
get groceries, but and I don'tget it, but I'm not knocking
anybody who does that.
I'm really not because I knowthat in parts of this country or
parts of this world, there's alot of people that have a tough
life and they have to use whatthey got to get what they want.
There's nothing wrong with that.
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I don't really see nothing wrongwith that.
But I think where we kind of getlost in it, that as we're paying
for something, and we're payingfor something that's basically a
fantasy because the person's notreally in front of us.
That I have no problem with.
But if you're in front of aperson, like let's say if you're
going to oh, let's just sayVegas and you're paying for
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somebody to have sex with them.
I don't see what kind of joy youget out of that because I don't
really get any joy of paying foranybody for sex because it's
basically just a business of abusiness transaction.
You know, there's no guaranteeyou're gonna be a stud in the
bed or freaking the sheets, andthat you're gonna put it down
like you think you're gonna putit down.
So you're going to go in there.
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Jeez, I can't even say thisshit.
Man, godly.
You're gonna physically go inthere, you're already excited,
and it's probably gonna maybelast about 10 seconds, maybe,
maybe 20.
We'll give you 20, but it's notgonna last the way you think
it's gonna last, because you'reso eager, and your testosterone
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is just like, and youradrenaline is like going through
the roof.
So as you're getting ready toproceed the moment, I mean, one
pump in and you're done.
So you had only spent aboutmaybe 20 to 30 dollars or
whatever, but and I knew afemale like that.
I knew a female that slept withguys for money, that's just not
me, and she had a hugeclientele, and that's like what
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the hell?
And then she had a whole family,a whole husband at home, and I
felt more bad for her husbandbecause her husband didn't know
what she was doing.
Um, she didn't do porn, but shehad a lot of high-end clientele
that she would service on aregular basis.
Now, I'm not giving you ideas,I'm just telling you what this
can do to your relationshipbecause depending on how you
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keep up with your body, you cankeep it tight, you can keep it
loose, or you can keep ithowever you want to keep it.
But me personally, I like awoman that's just you know,
maybe had a few partners and notthe whole damn football team,
plus the NBA team.
That's not me.
But I can also say that I'm kindof glad that Miss Emily got out
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of this when she did, becausethis can kind of ruin you.
I mean, and I've seen I'm noteven sure how this even happens,
but I've seen where um you'redoing porn, and some girls come
up pregnant and then they don'teven know who the damn father
is.
Some do, but nine times out often, they really don't.
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And it's kind of hard.
How are you gonna hit thisperson for child support when
you already consented to doingthe do?
So, me personally, it's a lotmore than that for me.
It really is.
Now, I'm not knocking femalesthat do out go out there and
make this do this for a living.
If that's what you want to do,then that's you.
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But I'm very cautious of whereI'm where I'm I'm not even gonna
say that.
I'm very cautious of who I doand what I do.
And though I'm not a man wholikes to brag about his sexual
in exploits and saying that I'mhung like a horse, I am average
and I'm I'm completely fine withthat.
I'm completely fine of nothaving you know a different
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female every night in my bedbecause that's not what I want.
That's not what I want.
Because to me, there's kind ofemotional attachment to that,
and I thought I could do thatback in the day, but clearly I
can't.
I really I can't.
I just I don't get it.
And I know there's some men thatthink that you know you're
handsome, you're you're probablythis black Adonis walking or
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this Adonis walking the face ofthe earth.
You can get any woman that youwant.
That's all fine and dandy, butlet's keep in mind there isn't
such thing called ED.
So, I mean, just as quick as yougive it, it can be taken away
from you.
So I think for me, it's moreabout a mutual respect thing for
women, you know, maybe gettingto know you.
Now, I'm not gonna lie, I don'tthink I've ever had a one-night
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stand.
Never.
Um, because one night standusually includes well, now they
don't include too much ofanything because as we see, you
can go on a site and you canswipe left or swipe right, and
then you hook up with thatperson, and then that's what it
is.
I don't know about that.
I don't, but I never use thesite.
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I've been on it, but I neverused it.
So it is quite different thanwhat we're seeing and what we're
used to.
So, Mr.
Jordan, Miss Emily, I would saygive your relationship another
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chance.
As I get ready to close thispodcast or this show out, I
would just say that it's not asbad, Mr.
Jordan, it's not as bad as youthink it is.
It's not.
As I said, she was veryrespectful.
She told you what she did do andwhat she didn't want to do.
And I think the pros outweighthe cons because she's very
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respectful of who she is andwhat she was doing with her
body.
And only thing you can do isjust be grateful for that
because I think that you mayhave a good woman if she's
disrespectful of her body andjust not throwing it out there
to any man, then as we see inrecent or current days, I mean
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some women just throw it out toanybody, and no shade against
the women because men are likedogs and looking for a bone as
well.
So I'm not discrediting eitherparty here, I'm just saying.
So I think that you should giveher another chance.
I think you should really umtake I think you both should
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take yourself out the equationof Sin City because I don't
think Sin City is for anybody,and you can do production
anywhere.
I'm not saying go back home, butmaybe go to a different state to
try to do things differently,and when you do things
differently, then if this girlis the right one for you, which
clearly what it sounds like,because she's clearly wanting
you back and not choosinganybody else, so I think that
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both of your hearts are in theright spot.
I think that the love is clearlystill there because you didn't
say if you moved on from that toanother woman.
I think at one point in time youfelt a little bit hurt and
because she went to go do this.
Now, not knowing what she didfor the whole four full four
weeks and what she told you, Ithink that to me says a lot
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about a woman.
It says a lot about a woman andhow she must care for you, and
I'm pretty sure you damn surecare about her.
So leave it the way it is.
I don't think I think goingfurther down the road, if she
wants to be your productionassistant or wants to learn the
tricks of the trade with you, Ithink she wants to learn it
because she's trying to um dobetter or wants to do better.
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And who's to say that you bothwon't be in, you know, doing
production or uh writing yourown shows or doing whatever?
I think that she's a good woman.
I haven't heard anything badabout what you said about her
except for the whole when shebrought her friends over, then
you guys decided to do, yeah,whatever.
But that's neither here northere.
You're young, you're gonnaexperiment.
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As a young person, Iexperimented.
I think we all do that, so it'snot a big deal.
The only thing is that how youdo it and you do it responsibly.
Now, if you're going out thereand you're just banging random
uh random chicks and randomdudes or whatever, and you're
not using protection, then thatwould be irresponsible.
But clearly, Miss Emily was notirresponsible, she was very
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responsible because she has somehigh standards and high respect
about her body and what she doeswith her body.
And I think that is commendable,and I think that is just
something that it's probably noteven looked at today.
You know, I think if you know,we're sitting here, I mean, some
of us begin on my chat, youprobably send us saying, Well, I
think it's nasty and I thinkit's disgusting.
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It is, but to the certain pointthat she decided to call it
quits before even gettingstarted.
And clearly the money wasn'tthere for her, but then again,
she didn't really stay in itthat long to find out what the
money could have been.
But how do you know?
Maybe the money could have beenless, could have been more, or
just depending on what theywant.
Her to do that she did not wantto do.
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So, as I said, I think that it'sall good.
I think you should go ahead andjust give her another chance.
So, my friends, thank you forlistening to the show.
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It's called what?
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Until the next time, and there'sgonna be a next time.
Yes, yeah, we're gonna get started here in just a
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Trying to get my thoughts and myshit together.
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How's everybody doing out there?
Thank y'all for tuning in to theshow.
A little bit scattered today.
Hopefully I can hear me okay.
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Wanna welcome y'all to the show.
I am the icon and the show iscalled Let's Talk About It.
Where I get emails from loyallisteners or listeners, or just
people that just want advice.
You know, just I'm nobodyspecial.
I just like to give advice, orso some people say.
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Hope you guys can hear me okay.
How's everybody in the chat?
Chat room doing everybody doinggood?
We good?
Oh right, yeah.
So today got an email from alistener who's kinda uh kind of
up in arms about hisrelationship with his uh his
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girl or um kind of an odd one.
I would have never thought I uhwould hear some shit like this,
but I guess it's a new year,it's a new age, and you never
know what I'm gonna come across.
So but I hope everybody's doinggood out there.
Hopefully your week has gonebetter, hopefully your day's
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gone better.
Hopefully everything iseverything.
So I've had a great week, youknow, work, work, and more work
and more work.
Seems like all this work and oneday maybe this shit will pay
off.
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I'm still trying to wait forthat lottery win, as well as the
rest of the world, but you know,is what it is though.
I don't know if I'd what I'd doif I did win the lottery.
I'd probably go insane, probablygo crazy, but it's all good.
In any event, we have a showtoday called Not the Life I
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Wanted.
And when I read this for thefirst time, I was like, damn,
for real.
But it's what it is, so it's allgood.
So without further ado, let'sget into the show on here and
let's talk about it.
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Whether I'm your host, the icon.
Anyways, as I said, it's titledNot the Life I Want It.
Icon.
What's up?
My name is Jordan.
Last name not important, as wellas it usually isn't, but hey,
whatever.
And you will soon know why.
But bro, I'm kind of faced withsome heat that's been bothering
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me, and I need your advice.
Fair warning, I just startlistening to your show.
Well, you know, it's better latethan never.
You know, so some people tune inat the last minute, some people
just don't tune in, they justwant the advice.
But in any event, Mr.
Jordan, I appreciate the letter.
No cap, bro.
I feel like you can relate tosome of the issues, but not all,
and again, you will soon knowwhy.
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So, first of all, I live in LasVegas, or some call Sin City,
and I definitely see why.
Yeah, it's definitely Sin City.
So I'm not originally from here,I'm from North Carolina, small
town or farming town.
I honestly came out here for avacation and things.
Things I thought I went welluntil I met a young lady and
decided to follow my heart withher.
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That's usually the way ithappened.
By the way, I'm 25 years old.
So I wanted to come out here andjust to see the side of the US
and wanted to have a career inproduction.
So I kind of set up shop outhere, but this is clearly not
the kind of production I wantedto do.
So this girl I've met, Emily,was also a small town girl like
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me, but I'm a guy, clearly, Iunderstand that.
And though she has been here awhile longer than me, we've met
on a sightseeing tour.
She was actually the only personI've met since I've been here.
But to be honest, some thingsare not what they seem, bruh.
This chick is literally crashingat random people, random people
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at one point, and I'm sure shewas homeless because I always
offered to drop her off with anUber, but she was like, nah, I'm
good.
So I was like, whatever, it'scool.
So we started to chill a lot.
And it got good, but stillpuzzles me on what sh what the
hell she does, because she'salways with me.
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But that's not the issue.
The issue is that she knows Ilove doing production because of
my equipment.
Which is nothing specialspecial, just some cameras, my
laptop, and my stabilizer.
So we went we went on the wewent to shoot some capture
scenes, and she was always therewith me, and I thought to
myself, damn, this chick isclingy.
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Not clingy, maybe she's justprobably a small town guy that
she's met in a long time.
Or whatever.
But nevertheless, I kept rollingwith it.
You know what?
I mean, so there's so here'swhere we started crashing out.
We had sex, I decided to film itto see what it could be what
what what we could dodifferently.
Shit's crazy I know.
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Yeah, it is, because usually youdon't film yourself having sex
to be like, oh, what can I dodifferently?
Okay, hold on, maybe I can getokay.
Okay, here we go.
So but we did, and it startedout as fun, but then she wanted
to have friends over and wantedme to film, wanted to film and
sometimes join in.
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Being the guy that thinks withhis head, I indulge, and not
yes, his head, not his head ontop of his icon.
Tell me why this chick posted avideo on a site that I did not
that I don't want you to knowabout because someone might know
me and see me.
Now keep that keep that shit G14classified.
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The site that she showed got alot of views.
Views like she wanted to keepgoing because she said this
could be her big break.
And I was like, what the hell?
Big break?
Foreign?
I didn't sign up to produceforeign.
That's not me.
Damn sure didn't what I want tostart in this kind of shit.
So we had an argument, and shewas like, if you love me, you
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would let me do this becauseit's been hard for me since I've
been in Vegas.
So I tried icon.
I know that this is every man'sdream, but that's not me.
I have dreams of being a writerand a producer, not this shit.
But I caved and we did it again.
Of course you did.
So we made about 10 videos.
God damn, I can only barely getto one, but whatever.
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Okay, so we caved and I madeabout 10 videos, and she used it
for an audition that I didn'tknow know about, and she got a
part in this porn productionthat quickly dipped.
That I quickly wait a minute, Ididn't know about, and she got a
part in a product in a pornproduction that I quickly dipped
out of.
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So needless to say that we weredone, of course, because I can't
share my girl with another man,especially since all this
happens in Vegas, and just myluck I run to the guy who was
literally piping down my girl.
Hell no, I got okay.
So apparently it didn't work outthe way she wanted to, because
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she called four weeks ago andsaid that she didn't like what
she was doing because there wasa lot that goes into producing
porn, and that the pay is noteven worth it.
Well, I can tell you it damnsure ain't worth it what it was
back in the day.
Uh, I mean, but we'll get intothat.
She thought that she was goingto come up big with that check,
but was sadly mistaken.
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She wanted to meet up later orsomething, and we did, but icon.
I was very cautious about seeingher.
I mean, it's only been fourweeks, and I thought it would be
I thought it would be itwouldn't be that bad, so I met
her and damn, she had a lot tosay.
Let's start with the obvious.
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She first told me she wanted tocome back, and I was like, why?
Because we're not going back tofilming porn.
She told me that she thought shecould handle porn because she
thought it was going to be aquick paycheck.
But for the four weeks she wasthere, she only made$2,500.
Now, I don't know what the goingrate for porn is these days, but
that seems pretty low.
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And because she said she didn'twant to do things, was asked to
do like Hano, Yang Bang, threeguys and one girl, and
everything else she could thinkof.
She said that the guys thatpiped, that the guys that she
got wait, she said that thatguys that get piped down with
her were just hideous.
SPEAKER_01 (14:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (14:08):
Meaning that these guys weren't the best, they
weren't the pick of the litter.
So she said the guy that did theinterview was fat and smell, but
she had to do do it to himbecause it was part of the
interview, and that she didn'twant facials or cream pies.
So I was like, what the hellwere you thinking?
And I seen Dude.
(14:29):
He looked like I seen Dude.
He looks like he's the type thatalways likes to pay to play.
Dude looks like a low brand, uh,like a low Brandon Fraser in
that movie The Well.
Did you see that movie?
No, I didn't see that movie TheWell.
I I hear good things though.
So I asked her what did she do?
She said mostly roleplay,shower, or cleaning.
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There was another girl that dideverything else.
Oh, and she didn't do oral.
She was always asked forprotection because one of the
girls caught the clap.
Caught the clap.
Wait, really?
I'm sure you know what that is.
Yeah, who does it?
An SDD doesn't know what thedamn clap is.
So I was disgusted and satisfiedat the same time.
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But my question is, Icon,knowing what you know, I want
your honest opinion.
Because I think she is sincereand that she wants a fresh
start.
I also asked her what she wantedto do differently if we got back
together.
She said starting OnlyFans.
But she said she was justjoking.
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She wanted to learn to shewanted to learn production and
photography with me, so I saidthat's cool.
So yeah, that is uh okay, Mr.
Jordan.
Well, let's start with theobvious thing.
Um I think I I don't know, youknow?
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I I I don't know.
I don't know because I thinkthat your girl did porn, she
tried porn, she didn't like it.
So maybe it's a good sign.
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I don't know what porn paysthese days.
I I honestly don't know.
I know back in the day porn wasin high demand.
It was I mean, the porn at backin my day don't look like the
shit it looks like now becauseanybody can get into porn, like
literally anybody.
All you gotta do is have awebcam, a bedroom, and a bed,
and you set up, and that'sthat's basically it.
But I don't know how much thesepeople made.
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Now I know back in the day, uh,back in the day, porn producers
made I mean, porn porn starsmade a lot of money because it
was something different, and youdidn't have like a lot of stuff
that you have like now, like youhad.
I mean, I'm not sure if anybodyremembers that uh porn clip of
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two guys and one two girls andone cup.
That was some sick shit.
That was sick, but I'm not gonnaget into that.
But in any event, you said yourgirl tried porn, she didn't like
it.
Um, that's probably a goodthing, maybe.
I think.
I mean, clearly in this day andage, there's a lot that goes
into porn.
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I mean, back in my day, I thinkthe highest we had was a chick
that did like almost a thousandguys, and back then we didn't
have like digital mainstreamporn on the computer.
You had to actually go buy thevideo to watch it.
Now you can like watch anybodydo anything on porn and like
just a click of a button orswipe of a key or whatever.
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So I think that and I'm gonnagive my honest opinion.
I think that Miss Emily is veryrespectful of herself, and she's
respectful of her body, and thatshe did not know what this would
entail.
Now, there is a video that Iseen a while back there.
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I don't know if it's real, butthere was a young lady who
wanted to do porn and and shewent in for an interview.
Now, first off, I I mean I guessthis shit happens in the porn
industry.
You go in for an interview andyou bang the guy that's
interviewing you.
That is a huge red flag.
I mean, because like she said,most of these guys are just
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they're just they're fat,they're sloppy, they don't have
anything going for themselves,it's just for them to get a
quick lay, and then you gottasign this waiver saying that you
won't sue me or anything likethat.
It's crazy, but it's weird.
I mean, could you imagine?
Hey, I got an interview today.
Well, which what's it for?
Foreign?
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Okay, get your interview.
Okay, alright, take the pantsoff.
Let's get this going.
Alright, so what do you likedoing while he's piping you
down?
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
But whatever.
In any event, um, she's verycautious.
And I give Emily her propsbecause there's a lot of stuff
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in porn that she didn't want todo.
She didn't want to do thefacial, she didn't want to do
the cream pie, she didn't wantto do uh the gangbang or stuff
like that.
Because and then you ask for acondom, which I didn't think
they really do in porn, but Iguess if you're the main star,
the main attraction, you havesome control over it, and even
if you don't have control overit, um, then you don't have to
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do it.
So, which kudos to you forsaying that, hey, I'm not doing
this shit because I'm not tryingto catch what she got.
And I thought, correct me wrong,I thought that in the porn
business that you have to getregularly tested for an STD.
Now, I know that doesn't alwayswork.
SPEAKER_01 (19:43):
And excuse me.
Now give me a second.
SPEAKER_02 (19:50):
And because back then you had to get tested, and
I'm not sure if that goes thesame way like now.
And let's be honest, I watched alot of Forn in my day.
And I watched foreign bloopers.
I watched the making of Forn.
But getting back to this onegirl, I'm sorry, I'm going to
jump off the subject here.
But this one girl that she wentin for the interview.
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And then immediately she didn'tknow how to do like anything.
So Vacancy was just like, youcan probably tell she was
probably a small town girl whoreally clearly hasn't
experienced what the world hadto offer.
I mean, she was fresh out, shewas 18, and she thought that she
was going to, like Miss Emilythought, was going to get a big
check.
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Now it was sad because duringthis whole interaction, this
girl is like crying.
I'm thinking, like, how can thisguy film this if she's crying?
It doesn't clearly look like shewas enjoying it.
And then at the end, um, he gaveher facial, which she said she
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didn't want.
And then for those who don'tknow what a facial is, a facial
is when a guy like skeets allover your face or whatever.
SPEAKER_01 (21:02):
Encrypted audio communication.
SPEAKER_02 (21:05):
Um hang on, let me turn my phone down.
So a facial is when a guy likejust skeets all over your face.
Face is what it is.
Now, when this was happening,the girl started crying and she
was upset.
And then I mean I felt bad forher, and I was like, Why would
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you even show this?
And I don't even think the videowas even posted to a porn site
per se.
I think it's just one of thosesites where um they were just
interviewing this girl and shelike felt well, she didn't they
didn't interview her, but theguy had posted it saying that
this chick does not want to doporn, but I don't know.
But here's the thing porn islike a it just depends really.
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I mean, I know there's a lot ofcollege girls that do it, and I
know that they try to do that topay their bills, and some people
do it because of I mean, you gota body, you look good, so I
think you could think you canget away with it, but I just
think it's just not, and I mean,we've all maybe we've all had
these thoughts.
Maybe we all, I mean, I know Idid, you know, my wife.
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I was like, girl, we should doporn, but it is really a lot
that goes into porn, it's justnot the you know, you have you
often wonder how long the guycan last during porn.
Well, let's be real clear,nobody can last that damn long.
I mean, unless I can be provenwrong, but going that long in
porn is just ridiculous.
So I took the livery and Iwatched it, and I watched how
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porn was made and how it wasproduced.
I mean, they take a lot of cutsin between because the guy is
just, I mean, let's just sayhe's not a stallion, he's not
like a freaking stud, so he'sgotta take a break.
But when I seen this, I waslike, oh my god, there's really
a lot that goes into this.
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I mean, there's like, andthere's like a whole dialogue
and a whole plot and everything,you know.
It's like you're not just goingin just to say, hey, come in and
pipe me down, you gotta work upthe storyline and everything,
whether it's a milk guy oryou're just sitting on the
couch, or the most common one isa maid, which is so far-fetched,
so stupid.
But hey, it is what it is.
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But when I seen the making ofit, I was like, this is
ridiculous.
This is man, it does take a lotof work to go into porn.
I mean, it's just not like ashooting, I mean, it's not like
right now where you can.
Okay, so now porn is like it'sbasically a website that you can
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just go on and you know, peopledo whatever.
Now, let's be honest, I've onlymet one guy that can get it up
after 30 minutes, and that was achick I used to work with, and
her dude could go like forhours, and I was kind of
hesitant about it.
I didn't know, I didn't see it,but she told me you did.
That's probably why she stayedwith him.
But in any event, not my tea, Idon't really care, I don't give
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a damn.
But real talk.
So I think what we have here,Mr.
Jordan, is Miss Emily is feelingsome kind of regret, and I get
it, we all have to kind ofexperience something to say that
not that we tried it, but ifit's gonna be a right fit for
us, no pun intended, but if it'sgonna be a right fit for us, and
in this case, it wasn't a rightfit for Miss Emily.
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I mean, like I said, clearly shewould get lined up with these
guys, and you know, how is that?
You know, you go into work oneday, you're like, Okay, this is
the guy you're gonna be pipingyou down today.
Really?
This guy?
I mean, there's not even no kindof I guess I don't even know
where you get these guys from.
I mean, it's just crazy.
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But it's fun to do if you'retogether, like if you're a
couple.
Now, the part that you said thatyou guys filmed yourself because
you wanted to see what you cando differently.
I don't know what that's about.
I've never heard that before.
That's like hold on, girl.
Okay, yeah.
Alright, all right.
Let me try this again.
Oh, oh, oh, wait, wait, okay,maybe if I last long if I do
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this.
Oh no, no, no, but in any event,it's what it is.
So let's point out some thingsin this here letter.
So a female, depending on thefemale, stands to make a lot of
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money in porn, depending on whatshe's willing to do and how far
she's willing to take it.
Now, Miss Emily did not want todo anal, gangbang, three guys,
and one girl.
I get it.
Because I don't, I just don't, Ican't really see that.
I really can't.
I mean, listen.
And you're probably thinking,like, well, Derek, you know, uh,
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you watch porn yourself.
Well, yeah, I do, but I watch itjust because of this and join
the watch.
It's not something I mean.
Sometimes you get bored, and youknow, you just uh, what's this
about?
What's that about?
I mean, there's some weird stuffout there, it really is.
So, in any event, you made only$2,500, which is clearly not a
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lot.
And the going rate for porn backin our day was probably a little
bit like maybe double, if nottriple that.
But as time got older and as theinternet blew up, then porn is
like it's phenomenal.
I mean, anybody's doing pornthese days.
I mean, all you need is a like Isaid, a phone really, and then
you you're up and running.
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I've been on a lot of thesesites and I've seen a lot of
stuff that these people do.
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
But now the whole pay mechanismwith a pay scale is done in
tokens or coins or um some othergod-given thing.
I mean, I get it, and like Isaid, and for some of these
other countries, that's prettymuch all they have, you know,
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because they're beautiful women,and you know, that's what they
have.
But I'm not sure what Mr.
Jordan and Miss and Miss Emilywere thinking about.
But like I said, if you want totry something and you want to
see if it's gonna work, then youtry it.
Yeah, you might have got a lotof views on the hit on the
video, but that doesn'tnecessarily mean to say you need
to go do porn because you thinkit's the best thing ever.
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Now, I honestly don't get thewhole model of throwing money at
a site and you know just goingcrazy with it.
I don't get it.
I mean, but it is what it is.
Like I said, I'm not I think atbest I might have spent maybe oh
maybe 50 to 60 dollars.
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I mean, I know some people whohave a really, really, really
bad, bad deal with porn.
I mean, and it can be addictive,but here's the thing that I tell
people it can control you if youlet it.
Now, there's a limit.
It's okay to spend a few buckshere, a few bucks there, but if
you start getting off into thehundreds, into the thousands,
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then clearly you have a problem,a seriously problem.
Because to me, it's all fantasy.
I can't physically touch you, Ican't physically um tell you
that I love you.
I can only type it to you andsay that hey, I love you.
That's all I can do.
But I can't touch you, and youcan tell me, baby, I love you,
and this, that, and the other.
But do you though?
Come on now, it's a business.
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So of course you're gonna makeme feel good.
So but let me get back to thisletter.
Let's not worry about myproblems, let's get back to this
letter.
So I think that Miss Emily, um Ithink she's very humble.
I think that she learned maybe alesson, and I think that she is
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just trying to find her placebecause I don't know why
everybody goes to Las Vegas totry to find themselves.
There's plenty of other statesthat you can go to in the US to
find yourself.
Now, I get it, Las Vegas is likethe sin capital of the world, or
maybe in the United States, I'mnot really sure.
I think the sex capital, I don'tknow, I think it's in Germany.
I don't know.
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Anyone know?
Anyone?
I don't know.
Any event, um in Vegas, they saywhat happens in Vegas stays in
Vegas, but prostitution is legalin Vegas.
Now, and then of course there'sa lot of a lot of headhunters.
Uh not not literally, butfiguratively speaking, a lot of
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headhunters that go out therelooking for younger women or
looking at younger girls andsay, hey, you can have a career
doing modeling.
And it turns out the modelingyou're doing, you in a modeling
shoot with a guy who's gettingready to pipe you down.
Like I thought I was gonna be amodel.
Oh, you're gonna be a model, allright.
Yeah, you're gonna be thismodel.
Here, let's take this milk, andI want you to walk in there and
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say this line.
That's the kind of model they'retalking about you doing.
But hey, like I said, it's whatit is, it's it's it's good.
Like I said, if you never trysomething and you want to give
it a try, uh maybe try to dothat shit in private.
I don't know.
But I'm trying to figure out howlong that you were out there
that you well, you said you metJordan and he's got this photo
equipment, so maybe that wasyour big brain.
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I mean, listen, Jordan.
I think if you want to do be awriter and do production, I
think you should go do that.
And if you have still if you'restill with Miss Emily, I would
say, I don't know.
You know, people in thecomments, what do you guys
think?
Do you guys think he should takeher back?
I think he should take her backbecause of why I think she's
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very cautious about who she wasand what she was doing.
I don't really see an issue withit, but I do understand where
Jordan is coming from.
You know, you can't be out therein Vegas, and you know, you were
going to and you're out on thespot, and then you see the guy
that you was basically pipingyou down, like, oh yeah, I know
her from work.
Really?
What's your work?
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You know what my work is, damnit.
You know what it is.
But I get it, but I don't thinkshe was being malicious when she
was doing this.
I think that she saw a quickpaycheck and thought the come up
was gonna be good.
Well, clearly the come up wasn'tgood.
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I mean, let's be honest.
I mean, men don't have it asgood as women do.
The only way men have it is ifyou have if you're hung like a
horse or you're a mandingo, realtalk, and even with that in
mind, I still can't fathom how awoman would want to have sex
with that, but whatever.
Ugh.
I mean, listen, I'm average, I'mgood with that.
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You know, God gave me this gift,and I'm gonna keep it the way it
is.
I'm not enhancing myself becauseI've seen some you know, point
out there where brother justlike hung like a horse.
Like, damn, who does that?
Jesus.
I mean, it's gotta not be goodfor the women, it can be good
for the women because that comeswith a lot of long-term damage.
I mean, let's say that you're inyour 20s and you're getting
piped down by this man dingoover time, then over time that's
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gotta wear down on you.
It really does.
So, and when I do see peoplethat's getting older and older,
and then they still want to doporn, then I don't know because
I just can't imagine laying onmy back all damn day, or you
know, whatever.
It's just not me, I don't getit.
But in any event, I think thatyou she did mostly role-playing,
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shower or cleaning, and therewas another girl that did
everything else.
So I'm clearly thinking thatwhen you seen this other girl,
that that didn't entice you tosay, Hey, I want to do that.
I think you were having a amoment where you thought that,
and I'm you know, I'm justcurious if that girl that you
seen, what was her paychecklike?
Because let's be honest, again,porn is a diamond doesn't
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industry.
There are fresh talent, freshgirls every damn day.
And there was this one I waslooking at where this guy was
doing an interview, and he wassaying, Well, the girls were
fighting because and I was like,What were they fighting for?
Because they wanted to go next,or who wanted to go next, or
this, that, and the other.
I didn't think a lot of thisshit really happens.
I mean, if you guys get achance, maybe Google this stuff
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and see what it is because itwas like really freaking weird,
like real talk weird.
But in any event, the low brutallow budget Brandon Fraser thing
took me out.
I didn't see the whale, but Iknow Brandon Fraser had to put
on weight to do that role.
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But I can imagine what thisgirl's going through.
But again, like I said, Mr.
Jordan, I think that you shouldtake this girl back.
I think you guys should get offto a fresh start, and I also
think you guys should get out ofVegas.
Now, if not getting out ofVegas, maybe go to a neighboring
city far away from Vegas.
Because here's the other thingwith porn if you do porn, it is
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out there forever.
There's no getting it back,there's no deleting trying to,
it's not like the old days.
Back in the old days, we hadPolaroids, we had VHS cassette
tapes, so that could be deleted,and nobody would never know
about it.
So excuse me.
So you doing this is saying thatit's gonna be out there.
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So now I'm glad you didn't shareit with me because I wasn't
gonna share it with theaudience, anyways.
Because, like I said, I like towhen you guys write me, I like
to keep everything a little bitunder wraps and kind of
confidential so you guys don'tget bashed be like, Oh, I heard
you on the show, and ha ha, it'syou, yada yada yada.
No, I don't do that because Iwant to respect your privacy and
I want to respect who you are asa person.
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And I don't really think it'sbad that you guys try this.
I don't, I just think that likeI said, you're both young,
you're 25.
I'm not sure you didn't say howold Miss Emily was, but clearly
she's old enough, so and I thinkwhat you guys had in the
beginning was a good thing, andthe good thing being that you
guys had a relationship, youguys decided to try some things
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out and experiment some things,do that, but your girl doesn't
have to take the video, or sheshouldn't have taken the video
and posted online because again,that shit is forever, and when
it's forever, it is forever.
You better hope you don't getinto politics or anything like
that because as we know, TikTokwill ruin you.
I mean, damn the media, damn thePI investigation, TikTok will
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ruin you.
They will find you in less than10 seconds.
All you got, all they need is aname, and somebody's always
quick drawing them grall.
I mean they're quick.
So this letter is kind ofdifferent because as I said
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before, when I read this letter,I was thinking to myself, this
is weird.
I've never heard had somebodywrite me and tell me that they
were trying to do porn, but itdidn't work out so well for
them.
But like I said, I commend you,Emily, for being a humble person
in trying to do this.
Now I know it didn't work outfor you, and I think that with
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you doing this experience, Ithink that's only gonna push you
to be something better or dosomething better and something
different.
So before you give up, youshould think about the reason
why you hung on so long.
So this is clearly saying thatdon't give up on your dreams
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just because you had this oneminor incident.
Now, I don't know if you guyshave tried to delete the videos
online.
Maybe you have, maybe youhadn't, but again, it doesn't
matter if you delete it becausesomebody already has it.
And when somebody already hasit, it's fair game, you know.
When you put shit out there onthe internet, that shit stays
forever.
Doesn't matter what it is, it'sout there.
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Ooh, sorry, this weather sucksbad.
Jesus.
But and the thing is that maybeyou should have done OnlyFans
first because that I can't thinkI'm saying this, but I don't
know.
People make a lot of money onOnlyFans, and it's mostly women.
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I mean, we've seen teachers anddoctors and everybody else make
money on OnlyFans.
I'm like, really?
How's that?
I mean, a guy like me can'tnever do no shit like that.
I don't even understand how orwhat I would start to do stuff
like that.
I mean, at best, you'd probablyjust see me walk around
butt-necked in my room.
I don't think I can't do thatbecause I got kids.
I don't want my kids seeing thisshit.
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I mean, they're like, and thenthey go to school, like, man, I
think I seen your dad.
He's got an OnlyFans account.
Like, no, my daddy ain't got noOnlyFans account.
No, you do.
He do.
I don't think I could do that.
But you guys aren't a couplethat has kids, so that's
probably a good thing.
But for those of us that havekids and have these OnlyFans
accounts, it's like, oh man,then you got your friends
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worrying about it.
You know, like, oh man, youknow, so-and-so mom, yeah, don't
she?
She got the goods.
I I'll be in the bathroom allnight long with her.
Not literally with her, but youin the room in the bed.
It's crazy, right?
It is what it is.
So, in any event, it's crazy,but maybe you should have tried
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the OnlyFans.
I mean, that's a little bit moresubtle, a little bit more
softer.
And I'm not saying you're gonnaget back into there, but maybe
there's a part of you that wantsto see how this is gonna play
out, and I don't know.
I don't, I don't, I just don'tget it.
I don't, I don't, I don't know,you know.
God, I wish I had a listener tocome in and say something about
this.
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But but again, the fact that youthe mere fact that you have
obstacles to overcome is alwaysgonna be in your favor.
This is just a slow, a it's justa stepping stone, it's not
really a big hiccup because Idon't even think you said where
you're from, but he said he'sfrom a small town of North
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Carolina.
Well, if you're in a farmingtown and you're predominating
the country, well, they don'treally see a lot of city life or
uh any kind of life for thatmatter because they're in a
farming town, and mostly theyget on the and they get out of a
TV is either the news or what'sgoing on in the world.
So it's a good thing that youare from a small town and that
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maybe your parents won't seethis unless somebody decides to
be vindictive and send thisinformation to them.
I don't know.
I hope that's not the case, butI think that you both are on the
right track to do somethinggood, to do something better,
but definitely try to stay awayfrom this area.
Like I said, if your girl Emilywants to start a try the only
fans account, I don't know.
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I'm not endorsing, I'm justsaying.
But there's tons of other waysthat you can probably make
income if you enjoy showing yourbody.
Let's be honest.
I mean, I'm a man, I enjoylooking at the female body, and
I enjoy watching females um, youknow, doing like some maybe some
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porn.
I mean, let's be real, let's bereal about it.
I mean, I'm not gonna say, ew,that's disgusting, but it's it's
Just sometimes fun to watch.
Sometimes when you get bored,and you're like, oh, you watch
everything on TV, and then yougotta get this, you know,
because I'm that kind of guy,then I like to sit and think,
like, oh, I wonder what this is.
And then I type in, like, oh, sothat's what that is.
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Okay.
Yeah, that's that's what mygosh, that's crazy.
But in any event, listen.
If you guys are in the comments,please shoot me what you think
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he should do.
You think he should stay withher?
Would you stay with your girl ifshe did porn?
Would you knowing that shedidn't do everything that porn
required?
Because basically what I'm justgonna say is it's like a
relationship, it's like shestepped out and she cheated on
you, but she did it respectfullyand she did it in a humble and
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most protective way because mostnot most because from what I see
and what I hear, most girlsdon't even get that far.
And they're either I mean, oh mygod, there's this one there's
this one video I seen, and thisis on a site that I'm not gonna
say on bus from bus front uhbudcast, buscast, but it's a
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site that you can go to and thatpeople broadcast themselves, um,
either doing just sexual actsand you know whatever, and
that's how they make money.
But this guy that I seen had awhite and a black chick.
Now, mind you, this guy had anew up and coming channel, so
and I was like, okay, let's seewhat this is about.
I kid you not, I think becauseI'm not on the site frequently.
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Yes, I am.
No, I'm not nah nah, just jokewith you.
But I kid you not.
When we first seen the girls,they weren't pregnant, but I
think I checked into the sitelike maybe a month ago, and they
were both pregnant at the sametime, and then the comments are
going crazy, like, what thehell?
Make this make sense.
He's like, Well, we know who thefather is.
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I mean, dude, dude was reallypacking, dude was packing, real
talk.
But it's what it is though, so Ican't, I just can't.
I mean, to me, porn has a lot ofrisk.
There's a lot of risk, there's alot of uh things that I don't
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really uh I don't really like tono, I just I just couldn't.
I mean, could any of you guys dothat?
I mean, really, come on,comments light me up, tell me
something.
Can any of you guys do that?
If you had somebody that youtruly loved, I mean, would you
do it for the money?
I mean, would you just do itwith yourselves, like your
couple?
I mean, what would any of youguys do in the comments?
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Anybody?
Y'all too afraid to comment.
It's all good though.
So, but I would like to sayagain, I would go ahead and take
this girl back.
She seems like she is a goodgirl, she seems like she is on
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the right track to do somethingbigger, something better, and it
seems like your head is on uhnot uh not like that, but it
seems like you're both on theright track to be doing bigger
and better things.
So I would say that give heranother shot because in life, I
mean, clearly if she's not theone for you.
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Hold on.
If she's not the one for you,you clearly would have known
about that.
But I think when she came to youand she poured her heart out to
you, I think that was theultimately sacrificing because
I'm pretty sure she feltembarrassed about it.
I mean, I would have feltembarrassed about it, but I
mean, I'm pretty sure that she'sgotten tested since then, and
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she's in the free and clearbecause she didn't do half the
shit that porn requires her todo.
So I think that this young ladyis not only genuine, but I think
she's insincere on being who sheis, and I think that given the
opportunity, I don't think shewould go down this path again.
I think she would just um trysomething different.
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Um, but I don't think she woulddo something like this.
And I think if you guys were todo something like this again,
it'd be in the comfort of yourown home.
Because let's be honest, I mean,I can't really say I'm gonna
film myself doing my chick andtrying to figure out what I
didn't do correct or what Ididn't do right.
I don't know.
That's just I mean, it's fun,it's fun, but not if you're
sharing it with friends ornothing like that, but it's what
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it is, so it's all good, it'sgood.
Hang on.
So that's my take on this showtoday.
So it's my take.
I think that life is gonna throwyou curveballs, and it's up to
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you and how you navigate throughlife to overcome those
obstacles.
I mean, to me, I don't reallythink that this is a bad thing.
I just think it's just somethingthat you both got caught up in
and that she didn't like it, andyou can't tell me it didn't say
in the side that you say youdidn't love the girl, or
actually, I don't think y'allmentioned anything about love at
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all.
Well, yeah, you said youfollowed your heart.
But I think at the end of theday, I think that it's okay
because I don't think that she'sgonna get the kind of attention
that you think she's gonna get.
Because let's face it, she wasnew to this, and I don't think
there's anything that's worth Idon't think there's anything
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that's gonna say thisrelationship is destroyed.
I honestly don't think it is.
I think this relationship issalvageable because she didn't
really say how many guys she hadto do, but I don't think I think
it was just the producer or theguy that interviewed her and
maybe some other guy, but andagain, that's not bad compared
to what we see on the internetwhen a chick does a gangbang.
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Now, if she would have done someshit like that, then clearly you
need to run and keep runningbecause that is oh man, that's
some rough shit there.
I don't understand how women cando that to their bodies.
I mean, I get the wholethreesome thing, but the whole
like there's this one chick thatI just read upon, she did like a
thousand guys.
That's nothing new because wehad a chick back in the day that
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the same thing, and she was onthe Jerry Springer show, and she
had, I guess she held the worldthe Guinness World Book of
Records for Sleeping with theMost Guy.
I don't get it because I seenone of those two, and those are
not fun of a bunch of dudesstanding in line with a mask on,
waiting to pipe down one girl.
Clearly, not that deep, not thatdeep for me.
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And if you are that low whereyou need to have sex after
somebody, I mean, the only thingthat was lucky was the guy that
got the pipe her down firstbecause he went first, and then
after that, then these otherguys.
I mean, some had condoms, somehad didn't.
I was like, no, there's no wayin hell I'm going in after
somebody who's got oh no, who'sgot oh lord no.
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Now that is something worthsaying that girl, we ain't ever
getting back together becausethis is a wrap.
Not only did I watch you getpiped down by a thousand guys,
there is clearly, clearly nochance of us even having a
family or doing anythingremotely together because you
just pretty much destroyed yourbody, destroyed your any kind of
any credible reputation.
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I don't understand because it'snot really an award for
something like that.
I mean, if you do get a rewardfor that, it's kept in private,
so it's not like they're gonnabroadcast on the news and oh
well, this girl here did athousand guys a day, and then
she holds a new world record.
That's not some shit youbroadcast, that's some shit you
keep on the low.
I mean, real talk.
Who the hell does that?
But like I said, we've all beenwell, I'm assuming you've been
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I've been where you've at, I'vebeen where you've been, but I
haven't done it quite like that.
So we've all had some sexualfantasies that we would love to
do or that we've experienced,and that's what it is, it's just
a fantasy.
I mean, it's not something alifestyle I keep up and keep
going.
I mean, in this day and age,disease STDs are so susceptible
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than what it was back in theday.
I think back in the day we hadto worry about was AIDS, and
when AIDS jumped on the scene,it was like, oh my god, you
know, they were teaching like umsafe sex in school.
I'm not even sure if they teachthat shit anymore.
But I think that you are doinguh I think you're doing you're
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being more respectful toyourself and more respectful to
your body, but most of all,you're being respectful towards
any and everything that you'recoming across in life because
you want better for yourself.
So I know that in that momentthat you were thinking that
while you were doing this, likethis couldn't be my life, or why
don't this to be my life, andthat's a good thing.
And like I said, I don't thinkthat I think the videos that you
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guys had up there on the sitebefore, I think that'll get a
lot more viewplay, but I don'tthink that if this product uh
production company decided topost this video on you doing
whatever, I don't think it'sgonna be a big thing because
it's only you didn't really sayhow many videos you did, but or
did you I think you only saidthat well you did about 10
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videos with your boy Mr.
Jordan, so or y'all did about 10videos, but I don't think you
really did that many videos withthis production company because
you didn't last that long andyou only made$2,500.
Now$2,500 is not a lot considerI can buy I make that in about a
week, so it's not really alucrative job, but then again,
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you weren't really there to getyour feet really wet and put
yourself in that position toearn more money because as I
said before, when you're doingporn, it takes a lot to do porn,
it is just not a job you go intoand you just bang this guy and
then you're getting a paycheck.
No, there are so many takes andtakes and what you gotta do and
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how you gotta do it too, it'sjust ridiculous.
And like I said, being a pornproducer, which anybody can do
that, it's just it's different,you know.
I don't understand, and this isfor the men, I don't understand
why we feel the need that weneed to degrade a woman um if we
see she's in a in the she's in atough spot or in a vulnerable
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spot.
Now, I know that some womendeserve better and some women
want better, but sometimesthey're left with a situation
that they feel they have no hopeout of or can't come out of.
So that's not me.
I've never paid for sex, and Idon't plan on paying for sex.
I mean, I think it's not reallyit's just diabolical to pay for
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something that it's justbasically a service.
It's like you're I can't reallysay it's like you're going to
get groceries, but and I don'tget it, but I'm not knocking
anybody who does that.
I'm really not because I knowthat in parts of this country or
parts of this world, there's alot of people that have a tough
life and they have to use whatthey got to get what they want.
There's nothing wrong with that.
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I don't really see nothing wrongwith that.
But I think where we kind of getlost in it, that as we're paying
for something, and we're payingfor something that's basically a
fantasy because the person's notreally in front of us.
That I have no problem with.
But if you're in front of aperson, like let's say if you're
going to oh, let's just sayVegas and you're paying for
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somebody to have sex with them.
I don't see what kind of joy youget out of that because I don't
really get any joy of paying foranybody for sex because it's
basically just a business of abusiness transaction.
You know, there's no guaranteeyou're gonna be a stud in the
bed or freaking the sheets, andthat you're gonna put it down
like you think you're gonna putit down.
So you're going to go in there.
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Jeez, I can't even say thisshit.
Man, godly.
You're gonna physically go inthere, you're already excited,
and it's probably gonna maybelast about 10 seconds, maybe,
maybe 20.
We'll give you 20, but it's notgonna last the way you think
it's gonna last, because you'reso eager, and your testosterone
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is just like, and youradrenaline is like going through
the roof.
So as you're getting ready toproceed the moment, I mean, one
pump in and you're done.
So you had only spent aboutmaybe 20 to 30 dollars or
whatever, but and I knew afemale like that.
I knew a female that slept withguys for money, that's just not
me, and she had a hugeclientele, and that's like what
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the hell?
And then she had a whole family,a whole husband at home, and I
felt more bad for her husbandbecause her husband didn't know
what she was doing.
Um, she didn't do porn, but shehad a lot of high-end clientele
that she would service on aregular basis.
Now, I'm not giving you ideas,I'm just telling you what this
can do to your relationshipbecause depending on how you
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keep up with your body, you cankeep it tight, you can keep it
loose, or you can keep ithowever you want to keep it.
But me personally, I like awoman that's just you know,
maybe had a few partners and notthe whole damn football team,
plus the NBA team.
That's not me.
But I can also say that I'm kindof glad that Miss Emily got out
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of this when she did, becausethis can kind of ruin you.
I mean, and I've seen I'm noteven sure how this even happens,
but I've seen where um you'redoing porn, and some girls come
up pregnant and then they don'teven know who the damn father
is.
Some do, but nine times out often, they really don't.
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And it's kind of hard.
How are you gonna hit thisperson for child support when
you already consented to doingthe do?
So, me personally, it's a lotmore than that for me.
It really is.
Now, I'm not knocking femalesthat do out go out there and
make this do this for a living.
If that's what you want to do,then that's you.
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But I'm very cautious of whereI'm where I'm I'm not even gonna
say that.
I'm very cautious of who I doand what I do.
And though I'm not a man wholikes to brag about his sexual
in exploits and saying that I'mhung like a horse, I am average
and I'm I'm completely fine withthat.
I'm completely fine of nothaving you know a different
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female every night in my bedbecause that's not what I want.
That's not what I want.
Because to me, there's kind ofemotional attachment to that,
and I thought I could do thatback in the day, but clearly I
can't.
I really I can't.
I just I don't get it.
And I know there's some men thatthink that you know you're
handsome, you're you're probablythis black Adonis walking or
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this Adonis walking the face ofthe earth.
You can get any woman that youwant.
That's all fine and dandy, butlet's keep in mind there isn't
such thing called ED.
So, I mean, just as quick as yougive it, it can be taken away
from you.
So I think for me, it's moreabout a mutual respect thing for
women, you know, maybe gettingto know you.
Now, I'm not gonna lie, I don'tthink I've ever had a one-night
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stand.
Never.
Um, because one night standusually includes well, now they
don't include too much ofanything because as we see, you
can go on a site and you canswipe left or swipe right, and
then you hook up with thatperson, and then that's what it
is.
I don't know about that.
I don't, but I never use thesite.
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I've been on it, but I neverused it.
So it is quite different thanwhat we're seeing and what we're
used to.
So, Mr.
Jordan, Miss Emily, I would saygive your relationship another
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chance.
As I get ready to close thispodcast or this show out, I
would just say that it's not asbad, Mr.
Jordan, it's not as bad as youthink it is.
It's not.
As I said, she was veryrespectful.
She told you what she did do andwhat she didn't want to do.
And I think the pros outweighthe cons because she's very
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respectful of who she is andwhat she was doing with her
body.
And only thing you can do isjust be grateful for that
because I think that you mayhave a good woman if she's
disrespectful of her body andjust not throwing it out there
to any man, then as we see inrecent or current days, I mean
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some women just throw it out toanybody, and no shade against
the women because men are likedogs and looking for a bone as
well.
So I'm not discrediting eitherparty here, I'm just saying.
So I think that you should giveher another chance.
I think you should really umtake I think you both should
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take yourself out the equationof Sin City because I don't
think Sin City is for anybody,and you can do production
anywhere.
I'm not saying go back home, butmaybe go to a different state to
try to do things differently,and when you do things
differently, then if this girlis the right one for you, which
clearly what it sounds like,because she's clearly wanting
you back and not choosinganybody else, so I think that
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both of your hearts are in theright spot.
I think that the love is clearlystill there because you didn't
say if you moved on from that toanother woman.
I think at one point in time youfelt a little bit hurt and
because she went to go do this.
Now, not knowing what she didfor the whole four full four
weeks and what she told you, Ithink that to me says a lot
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about a woman.
It says a lot about a woman andhow she must care for you, and
I'm pretty sure you damn surecare about her.
So leave it the way it is.
I don't think I think goingfurther down the road, if she
wants to be your productionassistant or wants to learn the
tricks of the trade with you, Ithink she wants to learn it
because she's trying to um dobetter or wants to do better.
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And who's to say that you bothwon't be in, you know, doing
production or uh writing yourown shows or doing whatever?
I think that she's a good woman.
I haven't heard anything badabout what you said about her
except for the whole when shebrought her friends over, then
you guys decided to do, yeah,whatever.
But that's neither here northere.
You're young, you're gonnaexperiment.
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As a young person, Iexperimented.
I think we all do that, so it'snot a big deal.
The only thing is that how youdo it and you do it responsibly.
Now, if you're going out thereand you're just banging random
uh random chicks and randomdudes or whatever, and you're
not using protection, then thatwould be irresponsible.
But clearly, Miss Emily was notirresponsible, she was very
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responsible because she has somehigh standards and high respect
about her body and what she doeswith her body.
And I think that is commendable,and I think that is just
something that it's probably noteven looked at today.
You know, I think if you know,we're sitting here, I mean, some
of us begin on my chat, youprobably send us saying, Well, I
think it's nasty and I thinkit's disgusting.
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It is, but to the certain pointthat she decided to call it
quits before even gettingstarted.
And clearly the money wasn'tthere for her, but then again,
she didn't really stay in itthat long to find out what the
money could have been.
But how do you know?
Maybe the money could have beenless, could have been more, or
just depending on what theywant.
Her to do that she did not wantto do.
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So, as I said, I think that it'sall good.
I think you should go ahead andjust give her another chance.
So, my friends, thank you forlistening to the show.
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Um, as I said before, if youhave any questions, concerns,
complaints, gripes, feel free toemail me.
D6Mpire357 at gmail.com.
This show drops every Wednesday.
Um yeah, so with that in mind,I'm gonna leave you with this
(01:00:46):
last track.
It's called On Fire.
It's called what?
One Capone featuring Jan set.
So until then, let y'all groovewith this.
Until the next time, and there'sgonna be a next time.
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