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February 7, 2022 128 mins

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Episode 15: The Karate Kid (1984) - Scene-By-Scene Breakdown

Jason Connell and Sal Rodriguez break down the classic movie and talk about catching flies, John G. Avildsen’s connection to the Rocky franchise, and how Pat Morita went from Happy Days to the Academy Awards.

* Daniel lives at the South Seas apartments, not the Seven Seas as mistakenly mentioned in the episode.

Synopsis: A boy and his mother move to California for a new job. He struggles to fit in, as a group of karate students starts to bully him for dating a rich girl from their clique. It's up to the Japanese landlord, Miyagi, to teach him karate.

Director: John G. Avildsen
Writer: Robert Mark Kamen
Cinematographer: James Crabe
Cast: Ralph Macchio, Pat Morita, Elisabeth Shue, Randee Heller, Martin Kove, William Zabka
Composer: Bill Conti

Original Episode: S01E16 & S01E15

Recorded: 02-07-22 & 06-17-19
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Jason Connell (04:29:45):
Welcome to Just curious media. This is let's
talk movies. And I'm JasonConnell on the show. Today, I'm
talking about the 1984 classic,The Karate Kid. And it's also a
very special treat because thisparticular scene by scene
breakdown was the very firstthing just curious media ever

(04:30:06):
recorded back in June 17 2019.
Pre pandemic, the world was avery different place. But this
recording was actually done forour first show. Let's talk Cobra
Kai. And at that time, I hadjust got into that show. I was
very reluctant because of mylove. For the Karate Kid. I

(04:30:27):
thought, man, they're gonna messthis up. They're gonna mess this
up. I don't want to see thisshow. Well, I watched it, and I
could not stop watching. Andback then it was only on YouTube
season one and season two,season two, it just come out. So
I consume those fell in lovewith it. And was at that time
developing just curious mediaand thought, hey, this is it.

(04:30:49):
The first show for just curiousmedia will be let's talk Cobra
Kai. And so then I sought out aco host. Because I didn't want
to do it alone. I figured it'dbe better to ping pong back and
forth, have a conversation. AndI went and found myself one
Salvador Rodriguez, SalRodriguez, a good friend of
mine. And we had worked togetherfor many years at my film

(04:31:12):
festivals United film festivals.
In Los Angeles, in particular,he was always at that branch, I
actually met Sal, because hecame and tried out for my first
documentary, which was strictlybackground. So we go back to
2005. And I thought he would bethe perfect co host. He's the
one and only person I asked, hecame aboard, and the rest is

(04:31:34):
history. So on this wonderfulnight back in June 2019, we just
gave this a test run. And Ididn't want to start with Cobra
Kai, I wanted to go back and doour first recording in covering
the Karate Kid which of courselaunched Cobra Kai. Now I didn't
think for a second or maybe inthe back of my mind, I hoped

(04:31:56):
that Cobra Kai would continue togrow. I knew it was great. A lot
of people weren't talking aboutit. But I was thinking now this
is really a good show. It's gota chance some staying power.
Well, I didn't know Netflixwould get involved and and take
it to a whole otherstratosphere. Season three they
released on their platform. Ofcourse, season four. Now they're
really behind it. They're likethe driving force. And who knows

(04:32:18):
how far it'll go. But it allgoes back to the roots. So this
particular scene by scenebreakdown was done for let's
talk Cobra Kai. It's before Ieven got to meet bud s. Smith,
who I interviewed on a previousepisode who was associate
producer and editor of TheKarate Kid. So this goes back to
those early origins. Now, whenwe recorded this particular

(04:32:40):
episode, we do talk about let'stalk Cobra Kai, the intro, I'm
leaving it in. It was very roughand rudimentary being our first
one and the outro as well. Andwe'll reference things in Cobra
Kai, but Sal had not seen seasonone and season two of Cobra Kai.
So we really stay on point.
There's a little bit of talk ofthe show, but since he hadn't
seen I think he may be seen thefirst episode or maybe not yet.

(04:33:03):
So we're really just living inthe Karate Kid. So it still
holds up. We literally go sceneby scene if you've heard other
episodes. The first 10 episodes,we did scene by scene breakdowns
of classic movies from the 80s.
This not being one of them. Butevery year was a different
movie. You know how it works formovies 90 minutes, the episode

(04:33:25):
would be longer than that,because we give backstory,
trivia, Cast all sorts of stuffas well as our forensic analysis
on every scene. But this is agreat one. And I'm really
excited to dust it off and putit here on Let's Talk movies
podcast because it's relevant.
It's a great crossover. In fact,we also did the Karate Kid part
two and part three, and it mayjust be in store for those as

(04:33:49):
well. Now one small little thingI know I mentioned in this
breakdown a mistake on my part.
I've since corrected it and toldall of our fans on Let's Talk
Cobra Kai, but I mistakenlycalled Daniel Russo's apartment
complex, which is the South Seasapartments. I was calling it the

(04:34:10):
seven C's apartments. I think Igot my wires crossed with that
classic Eurythmics song sweetdreams are made of this and they
reference seven seas and you cansing it to yourself. I'm sure
you remember the lyrics ifyou're of the right age. But
yeah, I did this repeatedly.
I've actually been to the SouthSeas department on a couple of
occasions in receita,California, but nonetheless I

(04:34:33):
made that mistake and I'm hereto tell you about it now because
you'll be hearing it for sure.
And those of you watchingviewing consuming this on you To
live unfortunately, you're goingto have to download the audio
podcast version because that'swhy I'm attaching the breakdown.

(04:34:54):
But I hope you do. It's wellworth the time. So without
further ado, please enjoy theKarate Kid. Welcome to Just
curious media. And this is let'stalk Cobra Kai. I'm your host
Jason Connell documentaryfilmmaker, churn. podcaster.
Joined by Sal Rodriguez.

Sal Rodriguez (04:35:13):
Sure, comedian, writer, actor.

Jason Connell (04:35:16):
You name it. I brought Sal on. I've known him
for years to help me tackle thisshow that I've recently fallen
in love with Cobra Kai. Andrather than start with the first
episode, we wanted to go back towhere Cobra Kai was born. Was it
the original 1984 The KarateKid?

Sal Rodriguez (04:35:32):
A classic. By the way, you would have this
obsession with Cobra Kai start.
I mean, do you have a karatebackground yourself?

Jason Connell (04:35:38):
I do actually. I trained taekwondo growing up and
even in LA. I was training haveketo for a while, which is
Korean. I didn't know thismartial arts. I love it. It's
like the evil empire. You'realways drawn to the dark side.
Right? There's something so coolabout the Cobra guy.

Sal Rodriguez (04:35:52):
So you want to be a Cobra Kai even over Karate
Kid?

Jason Connell (04:35:55):
Well watching the movie I hated Cobra Kai. Yeah, I
feared them I was young. Butover time, Cobra Kai dislike,
you know, it just looks so cooland menacing. And, and actually
my hair truth be told it wasvery Gianni esque. And on two
different Halloween I havedressed up as Cobra Kai.

Sal Rodriguez (04:36:13):
Ya know, when I first met Jason Connell, he had
the Gianni hairstyle.

Jason Connell (04:36:18):
Yeah, he's true.
Yeah, I had it just recently butI go in and out. I found a Cobra
Kai shirt ripped off the sleevesblack shirt, huge Coca Cola on
the front. It had the what istheir slogan? Strike first
strike first

Sal Rodriguez (04:36:31):
strike hard. No, sir. I added the sir.

Jason Connell (04:36:33):
So I had that on the back of the shirt. And I
went to these events and peopleare like swept the leg Johnny
and one at LACMA. They said, Oh,there's a Danielson run around
here. So we had a photo op.
Really? Yeah, it was great.

Sal Rodriguez (04:36:44):
Did he do the cream?

Jason Connell (04:36:46):
No, but I would have seen that coming. Yeah.

Sal Rodriguez (04:36:48):
Then you would have slept? I would have thought
that like oh, that's cool toknow that about your soul scene
is how you did martial arts. Andyou play soccer. I would be wary
of your kicks. Good kicks. Yeah.
Stay clear.

Jason Connell (04:36:58):
What about you?

Sal Rodriguez (04:36:59):
Well, I've just been a fan of mixed martial arts
for many years and that hassegwayed into I've taken boxing
coaching. I've taken Muay Thaicoaching, private coaching, but
I'm just an overall fan of mixedmartial arts. So mixed martial
arts has then got me toappreciate the individual
disciplines like karate. Yeah,and I know speaking of Karate
Kid, I mean, definitely whatspeaking of UFC. The Karate Kid,

(04:37:19):
I'm sure influenced GSP GeorgeSt. Pierre, one of the greatest
mixed martial arts ever, who wasa former student who was bullied
who then went into karate, andthen became one of the greatest
UFC champions ever. You cancreate a lot of parallels with
the Karate Kid, and to how theymanifested in real life.

Jason Connell (04:37:36):
Absolutely. Well, back to this movie. So came out
in 1984. This is the 35thanniversary, kind of hard to
believe. And guess what thebudget was any idea?

Sal Rodriguez (04:37:47):
I'm gonna guess around 5 million. That's pretty
good. Guess it was

Jason Connell (04:37:50):
8 million. Wow.
Not a lot of big names. I mean,you got this young cast. Yeah,
right. And Pat Morita wasn'thousehold name. What did rough
macho do prior to this? So hewas in the academy. It was like
this cheesy little movie andthen he was in a ton of episodes
of Eight is Enough

Sal Rodriguez (04:38:06):
where it was outsiders before or after Karate
Kid. That's right before. Okay,so we this is coming right off
outside.

Jason Connell (04:38:11):
He was in the outsiders, which was of all
things filmed in my hometown,Tulsa, Oklahoma. I didn't know
that Francis Ford Coppola cameto town. It was written by se
Hinton who was a Tolson, so I'mlike 1112 years old. And here
comes Coppola and company. Andall you really knew at the time
was Matt Dillon. Yeah, and youlook back now and it's like, oh
my gosh, you got me the rest ofus. Tom Cruise. Patrick Swayze,

(04:38:35):
Rob Lowe. Diane Lane, it'sloaded but you don't know all

Sal Rodriguez (04:38:38):
they were all that was a springboard for many
of them. So they were nothousehold names by any means.

Jason Connell (04:38:43):
And so much yeah, so seeing him on that that's
what got him this role. KarateKid so guess what? It grossed US
gross.

Sal Rodriguez (04:38:50):
Okay, US gross.
That's the budget of 8 million50 million,

Jason Connell (04:38:55):
almost 91 million. Wow. So who knows what
to do worldwide. These are justnumbers from IMDb has no wonder
they spawned so many sequelsshows, etc, etc. Who got

Sal Rodriguez (04:39:04):
rich wine Trump?

Jason Connell (04:39:06):
Jerry Weintraub definitely got rich. Oh, for
sure.

Sal Rodriguez (04:39:09):
There was an old thing I heard. It's like when
they were talking about how muchTom Cruise earned and for
Mission Impossible or whatever,you know, bragging about how
biggest checks work. But thensomebody said, Well, there was
always some producer who whosigned the check to Tom Cruise
who was making more money thanTom Cruise. Oh, for sure.

Jason Connell (04:39:24):
Yes. So it still gets 88% on Rotten Tomatoes. 7.2
on IMDb. So I hadn't seen thefilm in a while and to start it.
Did you realize that they werein like New Jersey in the
beginning of this movie.

Sal Rodriguez (04:39:36):
I forgot that part for it all. I know what
when I originally saw it, Imight have come into the movie
theater late. I might havemissed I never knew it. No, I
don't remember that at all. Andthen I

Jason Connell (04:39:44):
was roadshow for I'm New Jersey, yeah, to Los
Angeles. And it's a wholeopening credits montage. Yeah,
that I totally was lost on me.

Sal Rodriguez (04:39:52):
But I expected to see all the states but they go
from New Jersey. And the nextthing you know, when I recognize
because I've been there manytimes they're in Sedona,
Arizona, so they went from NewJersey to Sedona, Arizona now
getting gas, but I'm thinking,what, where did they stop in
between all of a sudden they'rein Sedona, then they're in
California only

Jason Connell (04:40:09):
had a million dollars. They couldn't really go
there and

Sal Rodriguez (04:40:13):
they jumped started the car. A lot of people
don't know that you can do that.
A friend of mine. A friend ofmine, his motorcycle wouldn't
start. I was like, let's push itman. And we push it and we
started his motorcycle. But itwas interesting to see them
start up the car that way. Andthey traveled cross country
jumpstarting this car. That'scrazy,

Jason Connell (04:40:29):
a lot of foreshadow and then I learned
how to drive on a standard. AndI learned how to get it out of
first on a big hill. So therewas times popping the clutch was
standard procedure. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez (04:40:37):
that's tough, though, because I've tried
clutch. Yeah, I've tried it. Iknow how to do it. I know what
to do. But I'm really bad at it.
I stole it first. It's just bad.
I'm better on automatic.

Jason Connell (04:40:46):
I wish my car was standard. So anyway, they're on
the long road trip. And thenthey wind up and of all places.
receita. Yeah, why not? Youknow, at the seven seas, which I
will say I went there threeweeks ago, just to see if it was
still standing. looks exactlythe same.

Sal Rodriguez (04:41:01):
You know what, I'm really surprised to hear
that because for those of youunfamiliar with what's going on
in the area, President de LosAngeles and the San Fernando
Valley being a suburb I wouldalmost call a former suburb,
it's now becoming more urban.
I'm surprised that building isstill standing, because there's
a lot of demolition going on.
They demoed Marilyn Monroe's oldhouse in North Hollywood over

(04:41:22):
here not too long ago. Why wouldthey care about Karate Kid
apartment building. I'm sosurprised and pleasantly
surprised that it's stillstanding today and you can drive
over there and see it today.

Jason Connell (04:41:31):
It's all that patch work that Miyagi did back
in the day that he was he wasgood. He was good with his
hands. So I even went up to thegate. It was pretty funny and
not see through. So it's notthat wooden gate that Daniel
could not see through. Andthere's the pool. There's the
waterfall. I didn't go in tolook at apartment 20

Sal Rodriguez (04:41:46):
By the way, that apartment complex is on saticoy
near Tampa.

Jason Connell (04:41:49):
That's That's exactly right. So we start off
Daniel was so against moving andhe's just got this bad attitude.
His mother's so upbeat andexcited to move some computer
company has brought her West.
We've got a downright positiveattitude. super positive, and
he's a little grumpy. Honestly,I'm

Sal Rodriguez (04:42:06):
not liking him so much. Not a little grumpy. He is
really pass. Yeah, I'm just notinto his character lukewarm
about him. Yeah, I'm like, thisungrateful kid is devoted mother
bringing them along in a crosscountry road trip. My mother
never took me on a road for

Jason Connell (04:42:19):
single mother at that. Yeah. And she's got a job
for them. And she relocated. Soas first encounter with someone
else his own age, he kicks openthe door to the seven seas and
knocks over Freddie. Yeah, whobefriends him immediately and
seems like a really nice guy.
Yeah, it

Sal Rodriguez (04:42:34):
seems like a legitimate kid that wants to
have a new friend. And whenthey're happy to welcome him to
the building,

Jason Connell (04:42:39):
invites him to a cookout the next day. So
immediately, he's got somethingin his day planner.

Sal Rodriguez (04:42:43):
I'm starting to figure out what day it is. So
I'm figuring if they had a beachparty, and then they had school
the next day. So that means itmust have been a Sunday. They
arrive on a Saturday. Theyarrive on a Saturday. Yeah, go
to the beach party on a Sundayand then have

Jason Connell (04:42:56):
school on Monday.
And it wasn't as school it wasfirst day in school.

Sal Rodriguez (04:42:59):
Okay. Yeah. So this is actually a very
interesting time. In the schoolyear, as well. Yep. Not only in
Daniel's son's life.

Jason Connell (04:43:08):
So we we made Friday he invites him and on the
way up to an apartment 20 Theypassed this old lady with the
dog. Now do you recognize thatold lady at all? No, I didn't
recognize her. She was happyGilmore's grandmother. Oh, no
more. Okay. And she was in abunch of episodes of Seinfeld.
Anyway, small bit, but I thoughtI knew she looks familiar.

Sal Rodriguez (04:43:29):
Okay, when Danielson brought the water for
the dogs is when he started toredeem himself to That's right.
Okay, well, he's kind ofthoughtful now.

Jason Connell (04:43:38):
He was grumpy.
His mom wouldn't stop. Yeah,maybe that was part

Sal Rodriguez (04:43:40):
but I thought it was a nice gesture. Yeah, it was
a kind gesture. And that's whenI started to think okay, maybe
this Daniel son is not such abad kid. after all.

Jason Connell (04:43:48):
We then meet Mr.
Miyagi. And he's trying to catchflies with chopsticks. A little
foreshadowing? Is that what he'sdoing in the beginning? The
first time Daniel sees him, hesees what he's doing. Okay. Is
that catching? No. Yes. Did youever try to catch flies off
chopsticks after this?

Sal Rodriguez (04:44:04):
I've never tried to catch flies with chopsticks.
But I have tried to trap flies.
Because I do a catch and releasesystem. Remember this about the
critters? Yeah. So I have triedto capture flies to them release
them outside but have ever triedwith chopsticks. Never tried
them because you fight crushthem? I would imagine that if
you did catch a flight with achopstick you would indeed end
its life.

Jason Connell (04:44:25):
You know what I got good at with my cousin. We
caught flies and our hands.
Build scoop technique. Yes. AndI got really good at that. And
then what'd you do with it? Ilet him go. Let him go. We would
tell each other. Catch him. Holdhim for three seconds. Open your
hands. He'll fly away. We'llcome back because he's been in
your heart. And sometimes thathappened really? Yeah, we
thought we were like kung fumasters. Yeah, it was pretty

(04:44:45):
cool.

Sal Rodriguez (04:44:47):
No, that was a precursor to Kashmir with Jeff.
So have you ever cut flies withchopsticks and never tried never
tried? Well, you know what,there's a sushi place right
across the street. They flies.
Hopefully not, but theydefinitely have chopsticks. And
I'm actually curious now to seeif that is indeed possible. I
wonder, did they just createthat concept for the movie? Or
is that actually some oldsamurai concept?

Jason Connell (04:45:07):
If and when we get ruff maggio on? It's a good
question for him? Yeah. I likethat. Because I'd like to know
that too. Like, where did thatcome from? Is that in the
script?

Sal Rodriguez (04:45:15):
What if like the fly with chopstick was just
improv for the day and theydecided to keep it so
impractical

Jason Connell (04:45:19):
to like, really catch that fly with a chapstick.
So he meets Pat Moran and nowPat Marina was talking about him
for a second came from Sanfordand Son. You know, that's kind
of would you say red foxdiscovered him

Sal Rodriguez (04:45:31):
red fox discovered Pat Merida through
stand up comedy. Yes. You sawhim doing stand up comedy. I
don't know where I guess LosAngeles, and then had them come
home and Sanford and Son so Ibelieve that's where he got his
television start was what wasthe character's name? Ah, choo.
Choo. You never get away withthat today. So aren't you played
by Pat and Rita had histelevision debut Sanford and Son

(04:45:52):
discovered by red fox a reallygood interesting bit of trivia.

Jason Connell (04:45:55):
And then of course, happy days, which I
really remember him from isArnold.

Sal Rodriguez (04:45:59):
Okay, so that's when I personally first learned
about Pat. Marita was unhappy tome to

Jason Connell (04:46:03):
Jerry Weintraub, the producer did not initially
want Pat Merida for the role.

Sal Rodriguez (04:46:07):
No, because he thought that he would make the
role too comical because see,prior to the Karate Kid, Pat and
Rita was known as a comedian.
stand up comedian, then comedicactor. So then all of a sudden,
they want to introduce them tothis movie as playing some
karate sensei. And JerryWeintraub was like, no, he's a
comedian. And he basically Ithink, had to audition and prove

(04:46:28):
himself and then weintrob wasimpressed by his performance.
And then what happened? Well,let me just give a little more
please. What happened was so PatMarina pattern, the role of Mr.
Miyagi after sensei Fumiodemora. And they had made a
documentary about him in 2017called the real Mr. Miyagi. So
Pat Marieta pattern, Mr. Miyagi,after Fumio demora, a very

(04:46:50):
famous Japanese karate martialartist.

Jason Connell (04:46:56):
And so to prove he really deserve the part, Mr.
Miyagi goes on, gets nominatedfor a Golden Globe and an Oscar
nominated for an Oscar doesn'twin, either. But But what

Sal Rodriguez (04:47:08):
do you think when you're amazing when you're in a
position like wine Trump'syou're like, I didn't want this
guy first. And now he'snominated for an Oscar and a
Golden Globe. Does that doanything to you? I wonder. Is
that the question? Questionyou're moving on?

Jason Connell (04:47:19):
I think you quickly say I signed off on
that. Yeah, exactly. You takethe credit, you spin it around.
Yes. But like what I put inmotion. Alright, so that's
patent right. And we got alittle bit of him. So now back
on point, Daniels at the beachhanging out with Freddie hanging
out with the guys playingsoccer, which is cool to see.
I'm a big soccer guy. Andthere's the first time we see a

(04:47:40):
young Elizabeth shoe is Ali thelove interest. Yes. And who
would go on after this to be inmovies like cocktail Back to the
Future two and three adventuresand babysitting Leaving Las
Vegas she's had a really graball the people from credit kids.
She's probably had one of thebest careers

Sal Rodriguez (04:47:57):
does she do bikini work and all of her films
or was it just in the KarateKid?

Jason Connell (04:48:01):
Well, there is a swimsuit and cocktail.

Sal Rodriguez (04:48:04):
Really? Yeah.
Okay, note to self watchcocktail.

Jason Connell (04:48:08):
Now back to the futures they're not back in the
future. Two or threeartventurers of babies and other
Leaving Las Vegas pretty gritty.
It's a great movie, but she wasdark Mike Vegas Feldman. There's
a side to her. That's not theusual Elisabeth Shue

Sal Rodriguez (04:48:22):
interesting.
Yeah. Cuz their role is verywholesome.

Jason Connell (04:48:24):
Right very much.

Sal Rodriguez (04:48:25):
This whole movie is urging supporting. Yes. Just
wanted to be done with Johnny.
Right. And

Jason Connell (04:48:31):
which is kind of shocking that she was with
Johnny. And I know that's likeit's over. And we don't see it
happen on camera. But she wasreally with him. Well, you ran
with the Cobra. Guys.

Sal Rodriguez (04:48:41):
You know what's funny is if they read this movie
today, I guess they did likewhat the Karate Kid but let's
forget about that for a second.
They would have some sort ofprequel. So in the prequel, we
would get to see Ali and Johnnydating. We all have seen the
jerk date the nice person.
That's true. So it makes totalsense that this sweet girl dated
this jerk. That's true thateventually does try to break up

(04:49:04):
with him.

Jason Connell (04:49:05):
And we've seen him away from the Cobra guys at
the country club, for instance.
And he fits in that society verywell. And the parents liked and
the parents liked him so that itcan find like the parents that
his parents and so they probablyanother side to him, and he
probably got darker in CobraKai. Maybe that's why she broke

Sal Rodriguez (04:49:21):
up with him. A little bit of background on
Johnny's character, or rather,should I say the actor
portraying Johnny how heapproached the role was that he
Zabka Williams, aka WilliamZabka. Imagine that that his
Sensei, when he did someresearch and into how he wanted
to portray the role, the Senseiwas the only father figure he's

(04:49:42):
ever known. So that was sort ofan attack. attachment he had to
the sensei to the point wherehe's willing then later on
crease yes later to do whateverhe says is true because we don't
meet Johnny's dad and KarateKid. We don't know anything
about his family.

Jason Connell (04:49:56):
I've actually seen Cobra Kai, we're saving
that for the podcast. We getinto that you do delve deep into
Johnny's background with hisparents. So

Sal Rodriguez (04:50:04):
it is almost a prequel in a way.

Jason Connell (04:50:06):
Yes, it's kind of like a lost you go back and
forth and learn about thecharacter. So back on the beach,
I guess we never left and herecomes the Cobra Kai riding dirt
bikes on the beach, no helmets,looking like rock stars. They

Sal Rodriguez (04:50:24):
didn't have helmet law them

Jason Connell (04:50:25):
didn't have helmet law. So they come rolling
up and immediately chaos ensues.

Sal Rodriguez (04:50:32):
This is where some people talk about how
Danielson is actually the bully.
And there are all these you cancheck online. There's all kinds
of information about peopletheorizing that it's actually
Daniel son, child psychologist,sociologist. Daniel was more of
the bully and instigator thanJohnny. This is due to the
scenes involving Daniel quoteunquote, standing up for

(04:50:53):
himself, in fact being acts ofretaliation against something
Gianni has perceived to havedone to ally so some people are
downright say that Daniel Suttonwas the bully.

Jason Connell (04:51:08):
I wouldn't go so far to say that but I also
wouldn't call it Danielsonanswer Okay. I think he
definitely helps fuel the fire.
He's got that you know, he'sfrom his from these coasts. He
has a short fuse. Danielobviously does. He's gonna stand
up for himself. He stands up forhimself. He goes over to an
obviously bad situation withguys who look tough, and his
buddies who he's barely buddieswith and don't look to quickly

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fade away. And he's all byhimself. And I gave him credit.
He didn't back down

Sal Rodriguez (04:51:34):
yet. And also when he got pushed down. Yep, he
threw that stereo side and gotup ready to fight and

Jason Connell (04:51:40):
then punched him and that sucker punch but got a
good hit on Johnny made hismouth bleed. And then John, of
course, puts him down on the onthe sand. So when that happens,
the guy Freddy, who brings himto the beach quickly. disowns
Daniel,

Sal Rodriguez (04:51:55):
he knows that he will not be getting any karate
lessons as he had hoped for

Jason Connell (04:51:59):
Daniel lives in receita. This happened and where
Malibu

Sal Rodriguez (04:52:03):
it was actually at Lille Korean state beach
actually a place that I visitquite often. So what does that
20 miles? It's a little bitnorth of Malibu,

Jason Connell (04:52:10):
I believe.
Exactly. So Daniel has no ridehome. This is pre Uber pre lift.

Sal Rodriguez (04:52:16):
There was no bus at that time. There was RTD not
Metro. There was no RTD Yeah,

Jason Connell (04:52:20):
it's Sunday night, dude. He's got school
that next day Yeah, Fridayleaves in Daniel to his pride
kicks in and he shoves away Ali,like get away. I'm fine. I'll be
fine. And so you know, you haveno idea how he gets home, but he
doesn't have any money. So thathappens.

Sal Rodriguez (04:52:34):
So how does he get home? His friends left them
Yeah, Ali's not wait. Did Alitake them home? No. He told her
leave. Okay, so yeah, how do youget home maybe he walked

Jason Connell (04:52:42):
walked to a payphone called it now because
he kept the whole thing a secretfrom his mother. The next day he
wakes up he's wearing shadesfirst day of school.

Sal Rodriguez (04:52:49):
Okay, so anyway, that's not called a blooper.
What is it called a glitch? Idon't know an answer question as
skipping

Jason Connell (04:52:54):
ahead. I can't type every loosen. Yeah. Okay.
So, a little bit before we go ona little bit about William
Zakka. The Johnny Lawrence, thehead Cobra Kai. He was in a few
other movies. And some I reallyliked just one of the guys.
Okay, National Lampoon'sEuropean Vacation, great movie
Grizz waltz. He was dating thegridwall daughter. And a night

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he wasn't nice in that, but healso kind of here had a little
bit of that aura about him. Anddefinitely in the Rodney
Dangerfield movie Back toschool. It's almost like he
plays a character named chess,but he's really almost playing
Johnny in college. It was a realjerk in that movie. He's a
swimmer. He's a diver, much likeRodney Dangerfield son, and it
was a super jerk to him. It wasin a frat. So he really nailed

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that like cocky, blonde allAmerican persona.

Sal Rodriguez (04:53:43):
I've totally forgot about that. But after the
movie, having had no martialarts experience prior to the
film, he went on to become a Ithink it was a second degree. I
think they call it a seconddegree Green Belt. Okay, I don't
know the belts. Yeah, he startedadvancing in karate after this
movie. But prior to all that hewas actually an accomplished
wrestler, maybe a high schoolwrestler or college wrestler.

(04:54:05):
And to this day, he still ownsthe red leather jacket that he
wore. The film still owns thattoday. It's a great looking
jacket. Does he have it in CobraKai? He does. Okay, so that's
his own personal prop. That's

Jason Connell (04:54:15):
a great jacket.
Yes. A little Michael Jackson. Ialso was gonna say that they
look down Daniel, and maybe thisis not important or not but more
soccer. Daniel Roth Macho is apretty good juggler of the
soccer ball. Yeah, I noticed.
You know, he's using his knees alot. And he was teaching Ali how
to do it. Yeah, I guess when Isaw this movie, I was inundated

(04:54:35):
in soccer. And I've seen it wasjust natural. And now this many
years later, there's like 20Soccer scenes in this movie,
which I Yeah, and I guess theygo on the field. There's two
different practices. What? No,no, you

Sal Rodriguez (04:54:47):
know what I gotta tell you. Okay, so I grew up in
the San Fernando Valley wherethis movie is set right? Soccer
was not a big thing. That wasactually for the movies like the
movie made it a bigger thing.
Growing up in the San FernandoValley attending all LAUSD
schools in the San FernandoValley soccer was not a big
thing. Wow. So the movie made ita big thing. And now look where
we are today. Soccer has becomea bigger thing.

Jason Connell (04:55:06):
Yeah. So it all goes back to Karate Kid karate
kid started the trend. Thank youkarate kid. And I was also gonna
point out one of the Cobra Kai'shas a famous father.

Sal Rodriguez (04:55:16):
Yeah, well, one of the Cobra Kai's will please
Dutch named Chad McQueen, son ofSteve McQueen.

Jason Connell (04:55:22):
He actually studied martial arts from Chuck
Norris. Yeah, you know, he's gotsome moves. Yeah. When they get
to the tournament much later thevalley tournament of anybody. He
looks the most legitimate of theCobra guys. They have other
people in the tournament thatyou could tell were real martial
artists. They were sprinklingthat man to give it the
authenticity.

Sal Rodriguez (04:55:40):
You had the referee of the match name is Pat
E. Johnson. He is a karateexpert and former student going
back to Chuck Norris again. Andhe instructed many movie stars
in karate. He's credited at theend of the movie as the fight
instructor choreographer for thefilm, but I didn't know that I
didn't know what the referee wasthe fight choreographer. Make

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sense until the very end, yougot to look at the credits. I
encourage people to stick aroundfor the credits of a movie. You
see the movie theater people getup and leave. Well, now more
people are staying because aticket there's going to be a
little inseam. But if it's not aMarvel movie, most people are
going to get up and leave. Youmiss some star Ferris Bueller.
Okay, you miss some stuff if youjust get up and leave. So
definitely stick around. Therewas also another guy a guy named
Darryl Vidal, Darrell the dollwho also portrays a tournament

(04:56:23):
finalist in the movie. He is theguy that did the body doubling
of Mr. Miyagi when he's doingthe crane on the beach. Okay,
yeah. So a guy from thetournament body double patent
reader for the crane seen

Jason Connell (04:56:36):
$8 million movie, you gotta have multiple jobs. He
was really light on his feet.

Sal Rodriguez (04:56:41):
I thought when he was doing those movements on
that beam of water on that post.
Yes. I really liked like afeather.

Jason Connell (04:56:48):
Yeah, it was good saying I'm more for shooting but
we'll get to that that's aheadof us. Look if I'm jumping
ahead. Okay, so here we arefirst day of school. Daniel has
a shiner, and there's moresoccer. We don't eat when I'm in
the school. We're literally asoccer practice like 12 hours
later he's soccer ring again.
And he's juggling away. And thenthere's Cruel Summer that song
is playing Bananarama and thenCobra Kaiser scheming plan.

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They've already bested him atthe beach and bears him in front
of the valley. And they'realready scheming on the soccer
field.

Sal Rodriguez (04:57:18):
They see him first I believe, I think they
spot him first. Well, there'smore of them. But yes, that's
true. They spot him and that'swhen they start scheming.

Jason Connell (04:57:24):
So during a game soccer game. Bobby takes out
Daniels obvious red card.
Objection. What does Daniel do?
Immediately fights back andslugs Bobby, and they always get
the retaliation. Yeah, Coachrejects Daniel. Sure he's lost
his mind. Ali oversees thiswhole thing. And Daniel looks

(04:57:45):
like the crazy man because he'sjust, he's got a short fuse. He
is being picked on.

Sal Rodriguez (04:57:51):
I thought he was gonna get kicked out of school
because right before that, thatlittle fight on the soccer
field. He and Daniel and Ali arehaving a nice little flirtatious
moment. Yeah, having a nicelittle moment. I thought to
myself that she's thinking, Oh,he's going to be here at we're
in school. We're going to datethat's where she's probably
thinking, Oh, yeah. And then hegets the boot. I'm thinking as
the viewer he's getting expelledfrom school. And then she's

(04:58:13):
looking at him going oh my gosh,there it is. It's over before it
even started.

Jason Connell (04:58:17):
That's true. If you punch someone in my school
and you're not just leavingsoccer practice you're you are
ejected from school

Sal Rodriguez (04:58:23):
today if you punch somebody you're probably
getting arrested.

Jason Connell (04:58:28):
There's that yeah, this is the

Sal Rodriguez (04:58:30):
80s 80s you can get away yeah, he is he I think
he had a knife good have a knifein school. It was no big.

Jason Connell (04:58:36):
Yes. The 80s Cut to which I think is more
foreshadowing Daniel in hisapartment reading a book about
karate and doing some selflessons. Yeah, he's kicking.
He's kicking in Mr. Miyagi. Themaintenance man enters the scene
and surveys what's going on?
Because what

Sal Rodriguez (04:58:51):
did you fix the sink right there was a leak
arresting? Yes. Okay. So Mr.
Miyagi arrives to fix the sinkand sees Daniel practicing
kicks.

Jason Connell (04:58:57):
Exactly. Yeah.
Just a little moment there, youknow. And next we see Daniel's
mom, Mrs. Lewis. So at arestaurant not at her computer
job, which went under by theway, I missed that she even
worked at the computer company.
But Daniel tells Friday that inthe beginning, and then there's
a little bit of an exchangewhere she said they went under

(04:59:18):
and then she lucked into thisjob at the Orient Express. And
she became the hostess.

Sal Rodriguez (04:59:23):
So interesting.
I'm wondering if maybe theproduction lost the location or
something they had to dance. Imean, why would they just make
that right turn all of a sudden,well, they stuck

Jason Connell (04:59:30):
her right next to the Cobra Kai Dojo to. Again,
it's $8 million budget. Now yougot to stay

Sal Rodriguez (04:59:36):
tight. Keep things

Jason Connell (04:59:37):
tight. We got a sweet cut that computer company.
So she's at the restaurant andin the background. You can see
it it says karate, right. Yeah.
When I saw this movie, not as akid, when I saw it, I don't
know. I watched it about seven,eight years ago. And I saw a
street and it was Cloverdale.
And this is a miracle mile, LosAngeles and Wilshire Cloverdale

(05:00:00):
Wilshire, when I was watchingthis movie, I was living at
fourth and Cloverdale. And Ijust had this out of body
experience like wait two, threeblocks down the Cobra Kai dojo.
So I got my dog as we walk downthere, just to look at this
building. Is this where it wasdone, and it was but that's one
of two Cobra Kai locations.
Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez (05:00:20):
they did cheat the locations. Apparently one is
near off of Miracle Mileexterior exterior would be
called the west side of LosAngeles. Then you jump back into
the San Fernando Valley, and theDojo is in North Hollywood on
Lankershim

Jason Connell (05:00:33):
and both buildings are there but that's
more prominent. They're all theindoor scenes that you see in
the Cobra Kai Dojo or the onefrom Ohio.

Sal Rodriguez (05:00:39):
Yeah, and the one I'm in Noho on Lankershim
between Chandler and Magnolia inNoho. Arts District today was
famous locally for being a dancestudio. Apparently it was a very
famous dancer. They also theyalso had aerobics classes. So
when I first moved to Noho, 20years ago, you had a lot of
dance classes there. I used tosee little did I know when I'd
see the dance classes there whenI would be eating at the Indian

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restaurant across the alleyway.
I'm looking over at the danceclass, not realizing that that
was the Cobra Kai dojo.

Jason Connell (05:01:08):
That's amazing.
You know if I was old enough inthe 80s, or I'm surprised
someone didn't do this. But whydid they not roll out Cobra Kai
studios everywhere? They couldhave definitely could.

Sal Rodriguez (05:01:20):
They didn't capitalize off it might

Jason Connell (05:01:22):
have been too early and it definitely helped
prime karate and America.

Sal Rodriguez (05:01:25):
I say this as a toy collector. Why didn't they
have the whole line of actionfigures immediately? Or did they
I don't think that they hadoriginal Emirati kid or Cobra
Kai action figures because Lucasdidn't make this movie. If Lucas
would have made this, we wouldhave Cobra Kai motorcycles. You
would definitely have themotorcycles the dirt bike? Oh,
yes. You'd have the Cobra Kaidirt bikes. Absolutely.

Jason Connell (05:01:44):
The red jackets.

Sal Rodriguez (05:01:45):
Oh, you'd have the red jackets. You'd have the
headbands and bands,

Jason Connell (05:01:49):
you'd have shops to have it all. I mean, they had
a few trinkets here and there. Idid see some I went to video
stores back then. That's how Ieven found credit card. I didn't
see it in the theater.
Unfortunately. One video storecalled all the right movies.
They had this thing behind thecounter and it was chopsticks
like karate kid branded. Sothere was a little bit of that
going on. But not enough, notwhat they would have today. I

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mean, had it come out now. CobraKai would be everywhere. It
would be like the Chapelle dayof karate dojos you know why
not? Sure are the StarbucksDaniels talking to his mother
getting the lowdown sharingabout Ali this love interest.
And he's excited because he'sgonna although Daniels reading

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his book about karate. He knowshe needs to learn from master.
So he goes and inquiring At theDojo, not knowing its Cobra
caught.

Sal Rodriguez (05:02:41):
Oh, that's right.
He walks into get legitimatelessons not realizing he was
walking into the belly of thebeast.

Jason Connell (05:02:46):
Exactly. He sees crease and he sees it. This
commanding sensei has controlover the whole class. And it was
until certain people bow and hesees Johnny's eyes lock on him.

Sal Rodriguez (05:02:57):
Yeah, cuz Chris has Johnny take over the class.
That's later. That wasn't atthat moment when Johnny was in
Ben's day down to That's rightbow sees AC Daniel. Yeah, that's
when they make eye contact andDaniel's like, Oh, no. What am I
doing?

Jason Connell (05:03:13):
And so my question to you is, what if
Daniel had just stayed stomachdid talk to crease and became a
Cobra Kai

Sal Rodriguez (05:03:23):
Wow, look how close we were to them what the
movie being and then Daniel goesback as a Cobra Kai and beats up
Fred.

Jason Connell (05:03:34):
It's all going back to Freddy. Now, I mean, I
know what the movie is over, buthe's just not wanting to back
down from things. So Danieldecides to leave as opposed to
staying there, which would haveprobably solved all of his
problems, goes back histemperaments different, he's
dejected. He's chosen the onedojo in the world that the Cobra

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guys is at. And he's talking tohis mother and if you remember
that scene, I think the scenesactually well done. You see the
Cobra Kai coming out of thestudio and they spot him Oh
yeah,

Sal Rodriguez (05:04:03):
cuz he's they're having lunch or dinner with his
mother right in the window.
Right they come out of the dojoand then actually they don't see
him at first it's the one guywho sees it runs back tells
Johnny Hey, and then that's whenthey what do they do with that?

Jason Connell (05:04:17):
So then we we cut to Daniel Ryan his bike from
which that would have been fromMiracle Mile to receipt it
impossible but we won't get intothat entourage used to do stuff
like that. So he's riding hisbike calm. It's kind of eerie
out they didn't do a good job ofthat.

Sal Rodriguez (05:04:33):
You know what I was reminded of his when he was
riding his bike at that moment,kind of having et flashbacks.
It's like I think et filmed inthe valley too, and went to the
house one time Okay, so et filmin the valley. Yeah. and they
had the you know, the bicycleriding at night, I was totally
reminded of scenes from et whenDaniel is riding his bike there
before he gets accosted by thesebrutes on dirt bikes. And this

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time they're wearing helmets.
They did have helmets, so that'sto be anonymous. Oh, good point.
Yeah. Cuz they knew they weregoing to do dirty. So like when
they showed up at the beach,they were just going to show up
at the beach and be idiots.
That's true. But you're right.
They knew they were going to

Jason Connell (05:05:09):
get the point that yeah, it was premeditated.
Yes, exactly. And I want to talkabout crease real quick. Yeah,
crease the Cobra Kai sensei.
He's played by Martin Cove. is alongtime TV actor. Yeah, he went
on to play. I want to say almost200 episodes of Cagney and
Lacey.

Sal Rodriguez (05:05:26):
While at the time I saw Karate Kid for the first
time. I had definitely seen himin lots of stuff. So many
things. Yeah, I'm sure like Iprobably saw him in hunter or
Oh, yeah. Falcon Crest. Allthose shows the 80s. I think I
saw him and I definitely hadseen him before.

Jason Connell (05:05:43):
I doubt he was on Love Boat.

Sal Rodriguez (05:05:45):
Maybe fantasy.
Everybody else was on.

Jason Connell (05:05:48):
Martin Cove. He's in Cobra Kai.

Sal Rodriguez (05:05:51):
Okay. I'm looking forward. I know. Chuck Norris
was rumored to have been askedto play that role. But he was
never asked to play that. That'sright. Yeah. But the rumor was
he was asked to play that roleand turned down the role because
he thought he would portraykarate senseis in a negative
light.

Jason Connell (05:06:06):
That's a good point.

Sal Rodriguez (05:06:07):
Now what Chuck Norris came back and said, it's
Yeah, that's true. I was neveroffered the role, but I would
have turned it down for thatvery reason. That's a

Jason Connell (05:06:16):
good point. I agree. His image was much
cleaner than that. And so Iwouldn't have fit for him. I'm
glad that Chuck Norris wasn'tthat role. I think he's great,
but I don't think he could haveportrayed it as evil.

Sal Rodriguez (05:06:27):
I'm just wondering if Chuck Norris has
ever played bad guy. He doesn'tplay bad guy play

Jason Connell (05:06:31):
tough guy like lone wolf McQuade he was tough.
Guy. No, he's not a bad guy. Andthen Texas. What was that?
Walker, Texas Ranger Walker,Texas Ranger. It was more of a
silly campy

Sal Rodriguez (05:06:42):
Yeah, but he's always good guy.

Jason Connell (05:06:43):
Is it good guy?
Yeah. So I don't know. I mean,they got the right guy. Yeah,
he's crease if he's in karate ornot. He didn't even have to do
much does his

Sal Rodriguez (05:06:51):
presence he never does karate in the movie. Yeah,
he

Jason Connell (05:06:54):
looks like a GI Joe figure. He just looks like
he's chiseled out of some other,you know, like, Eastwood.

Sal Rodriguez (05:07:00):
Yeah. Well, speaking of Gi GI Joe and
Eastwood, when they first gointo the dojo, you see some
items on the wall. Yes. And oneof those is some sort of Vietnam
shot that shows that Chris was aveteran of Vietnam. So a Vietnam
War veteran turn sensei. Butspeaking of Eastwood, Eastwood

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son, Clint Eastwood son, notScott, not Scott Kyle Eastwood
auditioned for the role ofDaniel. And then when he didn't
get the part, his father, ClintEastwood banned all Coca Cola
products from the sets of allhis movies, because at that
time, Columbia Studios ownedCoca Cola at the time. So that
was Clint Eastwood way ofgetting back at Columbia for not

(05:07:44):
casting his son, Kyle Eastwood,to play Daniel. I think guess
what others famous and we have,as you mentioned earlier, Steve
McQueen. So we have SteveMcQueen, son, and then Clint
Eastwood is like, Oh, you're notgoing to have my son in the
movie? Well, no Coca Colaproducts on my sets. And

Jason Connell (05:07:59):
Steve McQueen son was a real legitimate karate
expert. And he also wasn'tDaniel. Yeah, you know, I mean,
Daniel was going to the rightguy, rough macho was the right
guy.

Sal Rodriguez (05:08:08):
Well, he's the right guy. But at the same time,
other actors who were consideredfor Daniel, Sean Penn at one
time considered see Thomas Howeconsidered I could see him doing
it. You can see see Thomas,

Jason Connell (05:08:18):
because he's got that sympathy, you know, more
than Chompin too tough. Yeah, hecould have been Johnny. Well,
Sean

Sal Rodriguez (05:08:25):
Penn at the time, turned down the offer. I don't
know if he ever auditioned butturned down the offer, because
he thought he wanted to do moreadult roles at that time. You
know, these guys are like intheir early 20s. Well, I could
either go back and play highschool again, or college or I
could play adult roles. But youalso had Charlie Sheen, also
considered for the

Jason Connell (05:08:40):
role Charlie eat might have been able to do it.
Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez (05:08:44):
I forgot about Charlie Sheen's early roles. I
forgot what he did early on.

Jason Connell (05:08:47):
Well, young guns is the first time I remember him
coming on the scene. Oh, andthen Lucas. What am I saying? Of
course, he was in Lucas withCarrie green and Corey Haim.
Okay. And he was also in youngguns, but his brother was much
bigger at the time. Yeah. Let'ssee Thomas. How had that persona
he would have been a good.
Another choice. Tom Cruise alsocould have probably done it.

Sal Rodriguez (05:09:09):
Yes. So you're looking at grabbing from the
outside everybody in theoutsiders like yeah,

Jason Connell (05:09:13):
unravel up. Now.
Rob was too pretty boy, he wouldhave had a hard time having
sympathy for him. I thoughtrajmachi was great. It was like
the role he was supposed tohave.

Sal Rodriguez (05:09:21):
Well, what's interesting is when you look up
all this trivia on who wasconsidered for any given role,
it doesn't say anywhere how theyfinally landed on Ralph Machiel.
How they got back to rough machoafter all these other guys.
Yeah,

Jason Connell (05:09:34):
that's a question for Ralph Maggio. We will have
definitely gonna have to get himon one of our shows. Alright, so
now the Cobra guys are comingbearing down on Daniel on his
bicycle, and having watched thesame It's a little comical. So
they come rolling up on him. Andthere's a massive Hill and
watching the SAL I just thoughtif they didn't trip him, they

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didn't do anything. They justkind of got close to him. And on
his own, you know, momentum. Hetook himself down the hill and
wiped out and rolled andeverything and I just thought if
Dan had just stopped his bicyclegot off because he hadn't really
done anything to them. They weremore heckling him. He probably
could have avoided some of thesituation. But he just kind of

(05:10:16):
he gets in his own way.
Sometimes they did

Sal Rodriguez (05:10:19):
what you would call running him off the road,
but I would have stopped Wellsure. Maybe not maybe not what
the fall because you see alwaysgoing down and all of a sudden
boom, you hit something and

Jason Connell (05:10:29):
well the bike so I watched this just before we
came on, the bike literally goesabout five feet. Yeah, not
crushed. And then he got ascratch on it. Next time we see
the bike. It's got a crackedtire frame, and he's still in
the dumpster. Yes, that's okay.
That's movie magic. I get it.
But it wasn't as bad as we wereled to believe

Sal Rodriguez (05:10:48):
the bicycle that Daniel was writing was a
mongoose. Right after the moviemongoose sales skyrocketed. And
the reason why I may getbicycles like diamond backs and
mongoose is confused is becausein real life, what fights a
snake among us. So in theneighborhoods where I grew up
in, you either had a diamondback or you had a mongoose, and

(05:11:11):
you ran with a different crowd.
If you run a diamond back versusa mongos Karate Kid Oh, after
Karate Kid, you want Cobra Kai'scould be on a diamond back
another snake or the Mongooseforcing right killer snake
killer like karate kid crowdedon the mongooses. And I myself,
I'm proud to say I had a BMXmongoose, so that

Jason Connell (05:11:30):
that was done on purpose that that's his mongoose
to fight off the Cobras.

Sal Rodriguez (05:11:34):
Well, I like to create parallels and I'd like to
create meaning I will takesomething meaningless and put
meaning if it makes sense to me.
So when I look at the bike he'son which is a mongoose and
mongoose is fight snakes andwhat are Cobras? They are
snakes. Yes. Wow. Alter mind

Jason Connell (05:11:50):
blown. Wow, that should be like the subtitle. So
after the Wipeout on the hill,meltdown ensues. By the time he
gets home and throws his bicyclein the dumpster. His mother is
just now getting home. So youknow his ordeal took a while,
also had to ride along way. He'sjust kind of melting down in
front of his mother. He's sad.
He's beat up. He's been beat upseveral times. Now who overhears

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this entire exchange?

Sal Rodriguez (05:12:16):
Who's eavesdropping?

Jason Connell (05:12:18):
I don't even know he's just there. His little shop
is right there. But Mr. Miyagihere's this whole thing comes
out. And we as the audience, yourealize like, Oh, this guy is
probably going to intervene insome way. Yeah. We don't know
how. But we don't even know whathe's capable of, at this point.
Sure.

Sal Rodriguez (05:12:37):
We just know that he's the maintenance guy of the
building. That's another thingthat I thought about is
originally when we first see theoriginal meeting between Daniel
and Mr. Miyagi. It's Danielcoming down to ask them to fix
the sick. Now, today, you sendan email to your building
maintenance. And that's what Ido. I send an email to my
maintenance, and then they senda maintenance guy, I would never

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go down. There's nobody to godown to there's no maintenance
guy living there. So this alsorepresents another era where
maybe there was a custodian onsite. Yeah. You just don't see
that.

Jason Connell (05:13:10):
Well, in fact,

Sal Rodriguez (05:13:11):
I thought after that scene, he lived there.
That's what I thought too. Yeah,

Jason Connell (05:13:15):
I thought that forever until we'll get there.
But we find out he doesn't livethere. No, this is officer in
fact, at one after after werealize he doesn't live there.
We never see him there again. Weonly see him at his house.

Sal Rodriguez (05:13:28):
Once you see his house. I wouldn't want to live
there either. Yeah, he's got acool stuff. You got it. Who
knew?

Jason Connell (05:13:33):
He's just been stashing away money and has no
you know, no kids and no wife.
So we're back at school. AndDaniel runs into Ali and he
turns down a trip to the arcadewith her own friends, because he
sees the Cobra Kai's at school.
I didn't really understand

Sal Rodriguez (05:13:49):
that was that when he says goodbye to Allah
like, I gotta get here. Exactly.
Yeah.

Jason Connell (05:13:53):
And he's wearing and let me just point this out.
He's wearing fatigue pants witha plaid button up with a white
shirt and bright red collarunderneath. I'm a product of the
80s and I would never put allthose things together. I don't
really know he looks like anidiot. But yeah, so he sees

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Cobra Kai at school. She wantsto go off site to an arcade. But
he doesn't even want to walkaround them. And he bowed out
and runs home. So he's reallybecoming an introverted scared,
runs back home.

Sal Rodriguez (05:14:27):
And he did what anybody who was antagonized by,
you could call it a gang. Imean, it's not officially a get
street gang as we would know agang but they're a gang. That's
true. They're a gang. And theythreatened him. You see them at
school, so you walk the otherway.

Jason Connell (05:14:42):
It's a pretty healthy dose of bullying for
sure they did never

Sal Rodriguez (05:14:45):
used the word bullying which is a very popular
word. But never was the wordbully used. It may have been
used if this movie were madetoday, because that's what was
happening is he became thenbullied. But he just took off to
avoid being bullied. Yes. Whichanybody would probably do. I
mean, what are you gonna do youcan stand up to these six karate
guys. I mean, come on,

Jason Connell (05:15:06):
but I would have told Ali amici at golf and
stuff. And what right around theCobra guys meet yet Pac Man.
Miss Pac Man at that. So nowDaniel goes home. And there's
his bike. Perfect condition. Themongoose. Yeah. Amazing. And you
immediately know Mr. Miyagi hasgot to kind heart. He's got some

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skills. Yeah, that bike lookbetter than it looked when he
wrote it for the first time.

Sal Rodriguez (05:15:32):
Yeah, cuz you know what? It takes a lot of
skill to true. A rim. Yeah. Doyou know what it means to true a
rim? It means you got to take aramp from bent to straight. That
takes a lot of time andpatience. Which Mr. Miyagi?

Jason Connell (05:15:46):
Obviously he's got that. Yeah. So he brings in
I mean, this is like the best.
Not the best. This is like oneof the first bonding scenes
between them, and not only fixesthe bike Danya goes to thank
him. And he brings him in andgives him a bonsai lesson. Yeah.
And it's pretty cool. I gottasay, Are you into bonsais at
all? So

Sal Rodriguez (05:16:05):
so the bonsai trees I totally love. I have a
couple. My brother in law's abonsai master teaches bonsai
workshops.

Jason Connell (05:16:12):
I did not know that I've always been fond to
them. Yeah, had a few had a fewat my office, and I never really
understood the trimming aspect,but I love the miniature tree
thing and you're a big collectorso I could see you also liking
them but

Sal Rodriguez (05:16:25):
I like what he tells him. Close your eyes. Yes.
Imagine tree and then turn theback of the tree goes. Remember
tree make into tree. Verysimple. You don't get any much
more simple than that. Andthat's what that's the whole key
to Mr. Miyagi. Right? It's verysimplicity. Yes. Very, very
simple.

Jason Connell (05:16:43):
So then Daniel's mother joins them she gets

Sal Rodriguez (05:16:46):
a tree Yes. So she offers to pay him for the

Jason Connell (05:16:48):
for the bike. He says no, I will not take your
money. And now he realizesDaniel has no father figure Yes.
And he's in need of help. And sohe's taking on that role

Sal Rodriguez (05:17:00):
so maybe Mr.
Miyagi has no son we don't knowwe don't know yet. We never hear
well, we hear later. We hearlater about children. Yes, we
do. I completely forgot. I'll

Jason Connell (05:17:09):
get into that. So trees for Oh, yes.

Sal Rodriguez (05:17:12):
Now I remember what you're talking about the
kid. Okay. Let's not give thataway. No, no, no.

Jason Connell (05:17:17):
So trees for everybody. Yes. Mr. Miyagi is
the man he's giving everyonebonsai trees, BTS, and a few
beats later, Mr. Miyagi iscarving up pumpkins for
Halloween. This guy, he's superfestive. Yeah, like a
renaissance man. Really? When Ifirst saw him, I thought, this
guy kills it. I could see why hekept coming back to play this

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character. He's amazing. Yeah.
So he's doing the Halloween bit.
And off camera. He buildsDaniel, a great costume for
Halloween. Because Daniel comesback. He doesn't want to be with
the kids. And his new, you know,mentor, father figure helps them
and if you watch that scene,again, it's kind of funny. You

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can see the shower curtain andthe rod in the back. There's a
four shots right there again.
And so, bam, there we are at thedance. And how did Allie know
that was Daniel as the showercurtain?

Sal Rodriguez (05:18:10):
When she said that's Daniel. And then I think
a friend says how do you knowand she says, I just do
something like that. I did notknow how she knew that. That was
Daniel. I mean, do we ever seehim build stuff, create stuff
wear costumes? I don't know howshe knew that was Daniel maybe
has a sixth sense. Maybe?

Jason Connell (05:18:28):
I guess she knows he likes to hide in plain sight.

Sal Rodriguez (05:18:30):
Okay, I'll go for that. And now she has. She
figured it out. But yeah, Ithought how does she know that?

Jason Connell (05:18:36):
It was kind of a money outfit. When she came over
and he helps a curtain andbrings in and closes the
curtain. That was pretty cool.
Like that's pretty provocative.
And my school that would havehad to be clear. You could not
have gotten away with that.

Sal Rodriguez (05:18:50):
Well, I'm always looking for the first kiss or
the first makeup there. Theywere in the shower together.
They didn't get fully clothedlike weird science. They didn't
kiss. They looked they kissedgolf and stuff. Yeah, they
didn't kiss in the shower nowwell, they weren't in there very
long. It wouldn't make that saidif that were me.

Jason Connell (05:19:07):
So she gives him a flower and then she Ali goes
on about you know, Johnny'sgonna get his do someone's gonna
stand up to him. He helps hisshower curtain. There's a
chicken, someone just a chicken.
And they joke about real eggs.
And Daniels hit with an egg.

Sal Rodriguez (05:19:22):
By the way, that person in the costume. You
remember Bobby? From the BradyBunch? Yes. Okay, Bobby's
brother Peter. No, no. Bobby'sreal life, brother, Larry. I
don't know. Bobby's real lifebrother was in that chicken
soup. That's a little bit oftrivia.

Jason Connell (05:19:40):
That is a it's a lot of trivia. Some odd trivia
Bobby's neighbor.

Sal Rodriguez (05:19:47):
Bobby's neighbors cousins, roommates.

Jason Connell (05:19:49):
So Daniel is hit with an egg. Yes. And he's gotta
go clean out. Yes. And what ishe doing? He's in the restroom.

Sal Rodriguez (05:19:55):
That's when he does the well. Johnny is in a
stall rolling a joint joint.
Definitely a joint interest.
Yeah. He went up a notch andcoolness at that moment. Yeah,
he's got his

Jason Connell (05:20:06):
headphones on which we've established Johnny
in school, like many scenesearlier having his headphones on
in a class. So he's got hisheadphones rockin. Yeah. And
you're always listening to oh,that's probably something heavy.
I think you do hear it

Sal Rodriguez (05:20:20):
later or something like that? Probably.
I'm imagining a guy like thatwould have been probably into
some metal. Maybe Metallica wasMetallica around them. But yeah,
definitely

Jason Connell (05:20:26):
in the 80s Yeah, I have to say before I don't
know if someone was aroundheavy. I know.

Sal Rodriguez (05:20:31):
Slayer was definitely around. Yeah, I mean,
he's made and how about they'relistening to Motley Crue that
he's probably listening toMotley. He's not listening to
Depeche Mode. I'll

Jason Connell (05:20:38):
tell you that not listening to Flock of Seagulls
know what's your cool, but notfor Johnny. So he's in there
rolling. He's listen to someheavy Yeah.

Sal Rodriguez (05:20:45):
And then Daniel takes us water hose and does
this prank where he puts it overthe stall and then turns on the
water and gives Johnny a dose ofwater

Jason Connell (05:20:55):
and I say why? He finally got Cobra Kai's to give
you a little distance. They'venot attacked you lately. No. You
know, like let

Sal Rodriguez (05:21:04):
sleeping dogs lie. You're with Ali on the
dance floor in the shower herewith the hottest girl

Jason Connell (05:21:09):
in school and she's dumped him and she's nd
you but you've taken what shesaid. And you want to retaliate

Sal Rodriguez (05:21:15):
or we're gonna get into where he gets chased
and causes an automobile x threecar. When that happened. Really?
I'm thinking Are you serious?
You just cause an auto accident.
This is

Jason Connell (05:21:26):
Daniel with his no is not a very good chess
player. No, Daniel comes out ofthe gate. Yeah, he's one man.
There's like eight Cobra Kai's?
Why not just stand there andcover up in your outfit. Or why
not just hide in the stall. Hetries to run

Sal Rodriguez (05:21:41):
for it. Run for it as a shower as a shower.

Jason Connell (05:21:45):
I would have ran to the nearest school attendant
and said these guys are pickingon me. I'm one man against eight
but he runs in the middle of thestreet outside. And the parking
lot. Three cars literallycrashed. Looks like an episode
of chips. He jumps on anothercars hood. He almost takes a
hit. Yes, that's right. And heruns for the fence. Yeah. And

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the Cobra guys are coming.
They're on his tail on his tail.
They're so close. They'rewearing cool skeleton outfits
too.

Sal Rodriguez (05:22:12):
And I'm thinking there's no way he's gonna get
away. Look how close he'sdressed as a shower. Yeah,
there's guys on his tail andskeleton outfits. This guy's not
getting away. I mean, Ali

Jason Connell (05:22:20):
buys him five seconds with the tripping. Yeah,
which was nice. Okay, that wasgood. She got his back. But that
didn't buy him enough time.
Yeah. So when I'm watching thisscene, what cracks me up is he
jumps over a fence. It's anotherone of those real eerie fields.
They know that it looks likethere's almost like fog coming
up. And he's going to mateacross his field. His apartments

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right there. So Danny, he livestwo minutes from school. That's
the logistics.

Sal Rodriguez (05:22:50):
I would never run to my house. Because I don't
want them to know where I live.

Jason Connell (05:22:56):
But he lives that close. Yeah, I wouldn't have
left school.

Sal Rodriguez (05:22:59):
He lives running distance. Oh,

Jason Connell (05:23:00):
if I'm Daniel, I run and pull a fire alarm. Yeah.
You know, but he's not verysmart. So he makes it all the
way to the gate looking at hisparking lot. And what happens?

Sal Rodriguez (05:23:12):
He's climbing the gate. Yes. And right at that
moment. I think one of them wasa Johnny. I'm not sure if it was
John, what are the Cobra Kaigrabs him? pulls him. I'm
surprised he made it that far.
That's true. He's a pretty goodrunner. If he made it that far,
because they would have shouldhave caught him back in the
parking lot. Really? They werehot on his tail. He makes his
way climbing up almost to thetop one of the Cobra Kai gasm.
They start wailing Oh, Johnny, Ithink it was Johnny's like let

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me have him right now. Johnny'smad. Yeah, yeah. Because
Johnny's the one that he prankedin the bathroom. And Dutch is
also mad, but he's always mad.
Yeah, he just has that abouthim. So Johnny is given him some
give me a little one to writegiving them some kicks and some
punches. Yep. And then oh, andthen even one of the Cobra Kai
says, Okay, that's enough.
That's when that's when Johnnysays I'll say when it's enough

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for all decide when it's enough.
Yep. And then he's about to gethim again. But we

Jason Connell (05:24:05):
see something lurking in the background. Mr.
Miyagi has slowly climbed. Thefence which is unlocked, by the
way, and jumps intersectsJohnny's impeding kick and takes
Johnny down and then literallygoes into a mirage of great
moves and takes out every CobraKai.

Sal Rodriguez (05:24:25):
Yeah, well, that to be exact was stunt double.
Fumio dimora Yeah, that makessense. So what happened in that
scene is more cool trivia isfull Meo, tried it with the
actors, and they had to do takeafter take after take and the
actors were complaining. He'skicking us to her. I mean, these
people are actors. In the end,they're not official martial

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arts not competitive martialartists. So production, they're
not black belts. No. Okay, sowhat happened is then Flavio
says let me use my guys. Hebrings his students. They put on
the skeleton costumes, and theybang out the fight scene, which
some people say is one of thegreatest on camera fight scenes.
It's good. They bring it out inone take.

Jason Connell (05:25:08):
Yeah, it was smart. They were on the skeleton
outfits. Their faces are made upand Johnny someone has his hair.
It was perfect. Yeah, theynailed it. Yeah, I watched it
again today before this thinkingwhy Mr. Miyagi is doing pretty
good there. I mean, they broughthim in for the close

Sal Rodriguez (05:25:22):
ups, but I guess the two guys gonna be tricky
flips the two Exactly. Yeah.

Jason Connell (05:25:25):
What cracked me up about that sequence was the
fact that after he goes andhelps Daniel up and takes him
back to the place all you seefrom the Cobra guys is just a
little bit of moving. Yeah, notaudible anymore. And it's like,
yeah, okay, that's a bit farfetched.

Sal Rodriguez (05:25:40):
You think they would have started getting up by
now.

Jason Connell (05:25:42):
I mean, their pride was more hurt than they
were it's not like he took deathblows but whatever. He's bested
them. They're beaten.

Sal Rodriguez (05:25:49):
I could have sworn there was audio like oh
there's that

Jason Connell (05:25:52):
but no one's saying anything Cobra Kai style.
No mercy I think they would havegotten up and had like another
round or something. So cut toMr. Miyagi is helping you know
Daniel, heal up with someOkinawa medicine and agrees to
go to the Cobra Kai Dojo to talkto the sensei to have them stop

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picking on Daniel.

Sal Rodriguez (05:26:13):
But originally, he turns it down at first.
Daniel asked him will you gowith me? Doesn't he say
something like that? Will you gowith me and Mr. Miyagi at first
says no. Yes. So then I thinkDaniel gets mad. Right. He tends
to do that. Yeah, he gets angry.
And then I think then Mr. Miyagidoes a turn and says, Okay,
fine. I'll go with you. He gothis way. Yeah. So basically,
Daniel throws a tantrum. Andthen he gets his way.

Jason Connell (05:26:34):
That is a constant thing. So and Mr.
Miyagi has a it's a greatmoment. It's small. It's poetic.
It even even here that littleMiyagi music comes in. But as
they walk away, because he'sasking Mr. Miyagi, what belt? He
is, because obviously, you know,Daniels consumed by belts having
seen the Cobra Kai's, Mr.
Miyagi, gives him some wisdomand says, karate is here, and

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his head here in his heart, andnot here where a belt is, yeah,
that's a great moment. And sothe next day, we're with Mr.
Miyagi, and we find out does nothave a license. And nor does
Daniel for that matter.

Sal Rodriguez (05:27:15):
So got that he didn't have a license. And Tony
says, we had Daniels drive themand

Jason Connell (05:27:19):
Daniel doesn't have his license yet. So here's
to

Sal Rodriguez (05:27:21):
know Wait a second. Remember, he whips out
his license, and he just got it.
That's later.

Jason Connell (05:27:26):
Well, that's his birthday party. Oh, yeah. So
he's literally saying I don'thave my neither. So we have to
authorize guys bouncing aroundtown. Yeah. And they drive to
the dojo. Yes. Were they in theyellow car? No, they were in Mr.
Miyagi. He's like main car.

Sal Rodriguez (05:27:42):
Okay, it wasn't in the 1948 Ford Super Deluxe
convertible.

Jason Connell (05:27:47):
Now, we're not there yet. Okay, but we can't
wait to get there. No, we've notbeen to his house yet. This is
the last time I believe that wesee Mr. Miyagi at the apartment
complex. Okay, because that'swhere he brought him back to
health. It was at the complex.
He's got a little bed. Thislittle workshop. Yes. And so cut
to a walk in the dojo. I don'teven think Mr. Miyagi has much

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of a plan. But he's going toconfront this guy and see if he
can, you know, speak some reasonto him. And well, he didn't have

Sal Rodriguez (05:28:16):
any plan because I think when they got to the
dojo, Mr. Miyagi, looked up andsaw the tournament sign.

Jason Connell (05:28:22):
All Valley tournament December 19.

Sal Rodriguez (05:28:24):
Yeah, I don't think Mr. Miyagi legitimately
had any sort of plan.

Jason Connell (05:28:28):
We've probably hoping that it wasn't going to
be a guy like crease. Heprobably wasn't anticipating
crease. Yeah, it was like, Oh, Ican't talk or this blockhead.
Yeah. So when he gets there, youcan see that the students the
cobra, guys are injured.
damaged. Johnny's got a blackeye this time. One of them's in
a sling. Yes.

Sal Rodriguez (05:28:46):
So that's Mr.
Miyagi having beaten, creases,students.

Jason Connell (05:28:51):
Correct. And you can see Johnny whisper to crease
the sensei. And then he has allthe students fallen behind him.
So they can have this discussionat the dojo, which is a great
moment. I love the same. Sure.
And so Mr. Miyagi asked them tostop picking on Daniel. And
Chris is having none of it. Heorders Daniel to the mat. And

(05:29:11):
he's like, not in your dojo.
It's unfair, but where, and thenhe kind of nods to the poster in
the background. And so it's onand now Daniel, who knows
nothing about karate is going tobe in the all Valley tournament.

Sal Rodriguez (05:29:28):
Now wait a second, though. He didn't know
nothing. Because remember whenhe first kicks the door when
he's

Jason Connell (05:29:32):
ready. Okay. He's a white belt. Okay, maybe

Sal Rodriguez (05:29:35):
he had he took a class. Oh, I think that he took
a lot of why the why. Okay, sowe had the most bare minimum.
Okay, so he's a

Jason Connell (05:29:41):
white belt, but these guys are black belts. Yes.
They've been training for years,maybe all of high school.
Probably most of middle school.
Sure. Even if they're in a sametournament, they would not be in
the same class. No, it's

Sal Rodriguez (05:29:50):
like I say about myself. Like, I've had enough
fight training, where I canprobably kick somebody's ass.
Who has had no fight training?
Yes. But could I kick somebody'sass? Who's been taking martial
arts for 510 years? No. That'sprobably at the level he was at.
He could kick the air. He couldkick Freddie's ass. Yeah, right.
But he's not going to kickthese. No,

Jason Connell (05:30:10):
no way. And I think that's, I mean, the point
Miyagi just wants him to standup for himself in this setting,
and then squash this thing.
Yeah, right. But none of us knowthis. And we just assumed like
Daniel is going to I mean, atthe time, I didn't know the
difference between belts, so Ijust thought, okay, he's gonna
fight these guys somehow, someway. And this dojo of course,
this time is not Miracle Mile.

(05:30:32):
We are definitely in NorthHollywood. No, Whoa, yeah. For
this whole sequence. And youknow, who I noticed is a Cobra
Kai in the scene.

Sal Rodriguez (05:30:41):
Oh, Lamar from Revenge of the Nerds. Actually,
yes, he's later on in thetournament. Yes, he is. Larry.
Even credit is credit. Okay.

Jason Connell (05:30:49):
He is in it.
Larry Scott, who? Yes, Lamarfrom Revenge of the Nerds and
all of its sequels. He was alsoan iron Eagle.

Sal Rodriguez (05:30:57):
I forgot about space camp.

Jason Connell (05:30:59):
I forgot about the movies. But those are some
really fun ones from the 80s.

Sal Rodriguez (05:31:03):
I mean, he's so iconic as Lamar, Revenge of the
Nerds. I mean, such a memorablecharacter that they probably
maybe couldn't get away withtoday.

Jason Connell (05:31:10):
Yes, the Empress did throw the javelin throw.
Yes. So I noticed when theyvisited the Cobra Kai dojo, it's
all black belts. Everyone'sblack. There is no one below
that. Wow. And so you look atthat and just think, yeah, wow,
this is quite I mean, it'sprobably an All Black Belt
session. But still,

Sal Rodriguez (05:31:27):
do they have that? Yeah, there are some okay.
Yes, this class is all blackbelts.

Jason Connell (05:31:31):
Yeah. And that's obviously what's most Cobra
Kaiser that's pretty heavy

Sal Rodriguez (05:31:35):
duty a class with all black but yeah. Okay. Okay.
So then look where we're at atthis moment in time, then. We
just had Halloween. That'sright. And the tournament is
winning in December, December19. Do that. Okay, so we got two
months to defeat the Cobra.

Jason Connell (05:31:49):
So it's November you're right, we got a month and
a half. To really get ready andget rolling. I got

Sal Rodriguez (05:31:54):
a month and a half to defeat a black belt, or
some black more than one blackand try to become

Jason Connell (05:31:58):
a black belt become a black belt and, and not
just Johnny, he's the last manstanding, you're gonna get to
the other ones to get to him.

Sal Rodriguez (05:32:05):
Now there are these things called prodigies.
And speaking of martial arts, afamous martial artist by the
name of BJ Penn, nicknamed TheProdigy. When he took Brazilian
Jujitsu, this guy picked it upso fast, and record breaking
time became a black belt startedbeating black belts in Brazilian
jujitsu. So it's not entirelyunheard of that somebody could
come along and just start tokick butt right away. It's so

(05:32:29):
rare, but it can happen. So inother words, it's not so far
fetched that in two months, aperson can beat up remember also
there are rules. It's not astreet fight. No, there are
dispatcher

Jason Connell (05:32:40):
there were street fighting. When they were taking
him down with the sweeping thelegs. Daniels done. Yeah. But it
is technical. You

Sal Rodriguez (05:32:47):
have officials, you have a referee private
doctor on the side. When itcomes to tournaments. It's very
protected. I fought in sometournaments. Yeah. Okay. So
there.

Jason Connell (05:32:57):
They take you off immediately. It's point no
point. I remember, I want acouple of tournaments. And it's
more adrenaline. You don't evenfeel anything and headshots are
illegal. We'll get into thatlater. And so at least when I
was fighting, but you couldalways fight up. That's one
thing I remember. I was like ayellow belt at the time. And I
was we were a pretty good groupand of Taekwondo. We were called
The Wild Bunch. And you couldalways fight up. So meaning I

(05:33:20):
could be a yellow and I couldchallenge the blue who were like
two belts up and I would beatsome of those

Sal Rodriguez (05:33:25):
blues. That sounds good, but they couldn't
fight down. You know, that

Jason Connell (05:33:28):
would be like saying back excuse me white
belt, but this black beltchallenge. Alright, so,

Sal Rodriguez (05:33:37):
so they're on the dojo. They look to the poster
they agree to fight in the allValley tournament coming up on
December 19.

Jason Connell (05:33:46):
All Valley karate championship December 19. I
would love to have one of theserecreated posters. Amazing. And
so here we are, it's rightbefore the holidays. And then
like he said, he's a month and ahalf to become a black belt. So
what do we do? Well, next welearn for the first time that
Mr. Miyagi does not live at theapartment complex. He drives

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Daniel to his house, which isreally nice. And he's got land
for classic cars out front. Yes.
And a little boat. Like whoknow. Yeah. And this is where
he's going to train. Daniel.

Sal Rodriguez (05:34:23):
His backyard is totally decked out. Totally
cool. A little bridge going overa pond. He's got some koi in

Jason Connell (05:34:29):
the ponds gonna pull in a pond. Yeah, no, no,
no,

Sal Rodriguez (05:34:32):
he had the ponds.
Caddyshack. Okay, so he has thepond there with koi as a little
bridge. He's got a whole Zengarden there. But it looks
totally cool. But it also lookslike he's putting it together as
we speak. So this could havebeen like You know, something
that he's wanted to have on hisbucket list is a nice home with
a nice backyard manicured backlawn. Bonsai trees pond. It
looks really good and a littlehelper. And in the system, even

(05:34:55):
when Daniel first arrives therefirst thing he says, Oh, this is
beautiful. That's the firstthing out of his mouth when he
walks in there.

Jason Connell (05:35:04):
So I read that they actually tore that house
down in the 80s

Sal Rodriguez (05:35:09):
Don't make me cry. I know. Well, like I said,
I am I am pleasantly surprisedabout the seven seas apartment
because so much is going down.
So the fact that that went downis not surprising.

Jason Connell (05:35:18):
And Cobra Kai does have a recreation so there
is a new Miyagi house that toydoes live on. But that
particular one I read was thatso we go there first lesson
iconic wash and wax the cars waxon, wax off.

Sal Rodriguez (05:35:36):
We don't know as the viewer if you've never seen
the movie, you don't know no waythat this is part of the
methodology.

Jason Connell (05:35:42):
You think it's this madman has taken advantage
of Dan, not a madman. But youthink it's this guy who's going
to just have a helper all of asudden? Sure. And maybe if he
helps enough, he'll give himsome less. Yeah, exactly. That's
what he thinks. Can

Sal Rodriguez (05:35:56):
you do a good job on my cars? Then we'll start
your first lesson. Yeah, cuz

Jason Connell (05:36:00):
he's not a bad guy. He's already saved him from
getting beaten up. Yeah, hebrought him back to life. You
don't know the plan. My questionto you is how they're four
classic cars outside. And whyare they exposed to the elements
of the valley? Because these arebeautiful cars.

Sal Rodriguez (05:36:15):
Yeah, and then we're without covers, and
especially the main yellow carwhich is a 1948 Ford Super
Deluxe. And we'll get into thata second. The difference between
this car and the car that lookslike it from Greece and the car
that looks like it from Back tothe Future. But none of the cars
have roofs they're all I think Idon't know if their roofs Okay,
no, I'm sorry that what that onedoes not the all the 1948

(05:36:37):
Deluxes do not have roofsbeautiful car. They're a
fantastic car. But yeah, youleave it sitting out. It's
collecting dust it's gettingrained on no those cars would
not be in that shape. I'massuming off camera again. You
can't type every loose end likeyou say off camera the cars
recovered at night. And maybe hejust uncovered them when he knew
Daniel was coming

Jason Connell (05:36:55):
let's hope because it breaks my heart to
see them sitting there andknowing how hot it would get out
there. Oh yeah, it would be toomuch no no you know they're
they're not in bad shape. Theydon't have sun damage. They're a
little dirty and that's aboutit. Now I did read that rough
macho did receive this car as agift was it the director who
gave him the car John Appletonwho we haven't talked about much

(05:37:15):
and I guess we could have aquick Oh I'd like to definitely
talk about that. We should havetalked about him earlier so John
Allison directed rocky yeahamazing came back to Rocky five
did other really

Sal Rodriguez (05:37:26):
turned on Rocky to Rocky but did not turn down
Karate Kid two and Karate Kidthree

Jason Connell (05:37:31):
he should have turned down three. Okay, so

Sal Rodriguez (05:37:34):
he directed three Karate Kid movie starting with
Karate Kid then Karate Kid twothen credit get three. That's
pretty interesting. Actually.
You don't hear a lot offranchises having the same
director coming back at allreally? I mean, look how many
Iron Man movies when we have adirector comeback look about
some a Spider Man movies do wehave a director comeback.

Jason Connell (05:37:52):
Man was Jon Favreau the first two okay, he
did the first George Lucas onlydid the first Star Wars and came
back and did those weird ones inthe middle.

Sal Rodriguez (05:37:59):
Okay, awful. You just never heard of the same
director back to back to back.
Yeah, it's weird.

Jason Connell (05:38:03):
And he also did the movie neighbors, which is a
interesting dark comedy, which Ilove. But it was horrendous
shoot. But I've always admiredJohn Adelson and he
unfortunately just two yearsago, we lost him he passed away
what

Sal Rodriguez (05:38:15):
talk about iconic recipes. Talk about iconography.
He directs rocky turns downrocky two, but does not turn
down Karate Kid two. Maybe helearned his lesson. Maybe he did
learn a lesson. So another bitof trivia. Our director here.
John Albertson was also theoriginal director of Saturday

(05:38:36):
Night Fever from 1977 but hepulled out and then he was then
he was replaced by John bad MOYou may remember from other live
well, I'm not gonna get intoJohn Batum. But the point is, is
that the director of Karate Kidwas the original director of
Saturday Night Fever. Goodpoint. He did rocky when they do
the montage. Rocky in KarateKid. You have to think of rocky

(05:39:01):
Oh yeah. But apparently thedirector is known for montage.
That's that's one of hisdevices.

Jason Connell (05:39:06):
The Karate Kid has a lot of that rocky spirit.
Yeah, you know and you could seewhy it was in his hands and
rightfully so the right yeah, itwas it was beautiful. Those are
now the sequels whatever I don'tcare I mean, he came back he did
rocky five which was a miss atthe box office and I didn't like
it compared to three and four.
But he got it right those times

Sal Rodriguez (05:39:24):
the song you're the best or we're

Jason Connell (05:39:26):
gonna get into that now.

Sal Rodriguez (05:39:27):
We're gonna get to that now.

Jason Connell (05:39:28):
Let's wait Are we let's wait because I have a
whole thing on Okay, good. Let'shold off because there's a tie
in with Rocky we probably have alot of things wait for the song
to come on. So Daniel's doinghis first lesson. Not real
thrilled about it. But before hedoes the first lesson, Mr.
Miyagi makes him take the oath.
I'm your teacher, you have toagree with everything, no
arguing, and so he's got him. Soboom he does first lesson. Next

(05:39:51):
thing we know

Sal Rodriguez (05:39:54):
he doesn't want to wax cars. But he agreed to do
whatever Mr. Miyagi said. And so

Jason Connell (05:40:00):
far Mr. Miyagi has not led him astray, although
he's got him in a tournamentthat he can't handle, but he has
had his back every step of theway. So he's going to follow
along for now. So we're off on adate with Ali, and Daniel, and
his mother. Oh, and this scene.
This is like it's almost sort

Sal Rodriguez (05:40:15):
of a pickup alley from her house. Exactly. And
then the parents see the boyfrom receita

Jason Connell (05:40:20):
this scene is almost as hard to watch is like
that same from swingers when hekeeps calling Nikki on the
answering machine. Like this isthe scene that you never want to
be the poor guy but you gottayou know, gone out with like, a
much richer girl, but then theysee your mom and your car and
what do they got to do to getthe car started?

Sal Rodriguez (05:40:39):
They gotta push start the car, hobby, the clutch
and

Jason Connell (05:40:42):
they let Ali do it and her parents are just
like, they're just leaving theclub. They got their tennis,
like, bigs I roll sigh like andyou can see when Daniel gets out
of the car, he's just besidehimself.

Sal Rodriguez (05:40:57):
Well, you to imagine that parents are just
thinking, this is a phase.

Jason Connell (05:41:01):
So what algo slumming tonight, you know, yes,
exactly. That's all it is. Ifthat one off day, but

Sal Rodriguez (05:41:09):
I understand because I personally, I've
always dated up. Yeah, I believeme. I know.

Jason Connell (05:41:13):
Good job. So Daniel meets the parents and
much like seven seas. I'vedriven by the House still stands
in Encino Hills still isbeautiful. And it's right there.
I mean, I mean, I've stoppedtwice and taken a couple of
photos of it. So

Sal Rodriguez (05:41:30):
I wonder if that happens to them all the time.
Like the Brady Bunch house. TheBrady Bunch house is over here
in Studio City. Well, I saw thatrecently. Right. They did sell
it recently, I think or they hadwe're gonna make a reality show
about it. But you know, you havethese iconic houses that's more
iconic because that's the BradyBunch house. Well, if you're a
fan of the movie Karate Kid,

Jason Connell (05:41:46):
but you never I mean as much as I liked it. It's
not like we ever went in alleyshouse.

Sal Rodriguez (05:41:50):
No. So it's just to me it's it's a really that

Jason Connell (05:41:52):
scene. That scene is what you're remembering.
Yeah. Oh, right here on theypulled away it's cool. But Brady
Bunch is a whole I mean, howmany scenes went on and I'm
assuming they shot on maybe theyhad

Sal Rodriguez (05:42:04):
the Brady Bunch was only used the houses on

Jason Connell (05:42:06):
the exterior story. Yeah. Okay, that makes
sense. But still that shows soI'm

Sal Rodriguez (05:42:10):
trying to bring up the seven C's apartment and
Ali's house to the level ofAmityville house or Brady Bunch.

Jason Connell (05:42:16):
I like that. All right, let's get it up there. So
anyway, I drove by go check itout. Don't knock on the door.
Just drive by. But it'sbeautiful valley here. Yeah.
Hey, cup up the clutch. So greattimes on their date at golf and
stuff, which I've actually beenwanting to visit and it is out
in Norwalk, Norwalk. And so

Sal Rodriguez (05:42:37):
it's still there.
It's their waterslide and allgreat reviews. Oh my gosh, I
never know because you know,going back to a little bit of
San Fernando Valley history. Wein the San Fernando Valley have
not one but two water slides. Wehad a water slide on with Syd
and vanowen. We had a waterslidein Northridge on Nordoff. near
Tampa, between Corbin and Tampa.

(05:42:58):
We have two water slides here.
So here. That would be funny.
Here in the Karate Kid. We havea waterslide. And it's still
standing today and

Jason Connell (05:43:06):
it gets great reviews. I was gonna go on a
date there recently at thePutnam park just to try it out.

Sal Rodriguez (05:43:11):
That's fantastic.
I would totally go because youknow why? Maybe I don't want to
spend all the money forhurricane harbor or Soak City.
Oh, I want to pay you know,10 $15

Jason Connell (05:43:19):
instead of a podcast outing,

Sal Rodriguez (05:43:21):
that will be fun.
Like today told you. Well, I

Jason Connell (05:43:24):
want you to the waterside. I was when I go on
the arcade? I'm an arcadejunkie.

Sal Rodriguez (05:43:27):
Okay, can you miss Pac Man? All right. So that
pinball machines there? Theyprobably don't have their games.
You know, they open up a pinballplace over here on Lankershim. I
believe it Yeah, right. arcadesare driving $10 for one hour
unlimited play of pinballmachine.

Jason Connell (05:43:42):
Well, there is a barcade downtown named 82. Good
Year, and they have classicgames and pinball, and I've
loved

Sal Rodriguez (05:43:52):
my quarters, all quarters. I like it a quarter of
the hour

Jason Connell (05:43:56):
and the beers are great. And I've taken my soccer
team there before we had therecord for Pac Man that night.
It was over 100,000 Miss PacMan. It's a sped up version. You
know,

Sal Rodriguez (05:44:06):
so let's talk about it's faster than Pac Man.
Oh, no. This

Jason Connell (05:44:08):
is like a new sped up version. She's moving
triple time. You gotta movefaster, but I'm at screens. I've
never made it to as a 12 yearold. So 11 year old me is
looking saying hey, well done,sir.

Sal Rodriguez (05:44:21):
Since we're bragging, I can flip Galaga I'll
have you know, that's prettyimpressive.

Jason Connell (05:44:26):
Okay, so great time at the arcade state. Great
date. Yeah. And then the end ofthe day Cobra Kai comes rolling
up although they're kind ofcool. They say hey, Ally, you
can bring your friend with you.
And then missile Russo rolls upin the frame and they're like,
like your car. Mrs. Larousse.
Oh, and Daniel's just like, nothappy. And now he's got this

(05:44:49):
horrible mood going. And that'show the date in

Sal Rodriguez (05:44:52):
Okay, well, that moment where they roll up and
then they say to Ally can bringyour friend. Yeah, that was a
weird moment I'm thinking whatare they doing here?

Jason Connell (05:44:59):
They were following their senseis orders,
yes. But

Sal Rodriguez (05:45:02):
I mean, you don't think they're gonna know I don't
think that

Jason Connell (05:45:04):
they just wanted to hang out with Ally and they
were just gonna kind of go alongwith it also could have changed
history

Sal Rodriguez (05:45:09):
he could have been a member of I keep waiting
for

Jason Connell (05:45:13):
I want to change history history revisited

Sal Rodriguez (05:45:16):
you made me see these fine lines between Daniel
becoming a Cobra Kai. I neverthought of that before. Yeah,
when he goes to the dojo thefirst time. This time he could
have jumped in the car with Alieverybody could have Daniel's
cool. Yeah, you know, couldhappen at this point. They could
see, wow, Daniel might actuallybe a good Cobra Kai. Exactly.
Yeah, I know. He's willing tostand up for himself. He's

(05:45:38):
willing to fight.

Jason Connell (05:45:39):
There's nothing like play. So I'm playing
competitive soccer leagues. Andwhen I see a great player we go
against, I admire that. But ifthat player ever wants to be
part of our team, I am the firstto bring a great player in the
fold for it because a greatplayer will find his way onto
your team. And he'll fit inbecause that's what great

(05:45:59):
players do. And so they'reloyal. But usually you want to
go you want them in yourfoxhole. So yeah, Daniel and
Johnny probably get along verywell on the Cobra Kai, you know,
reality, but we wouldn't have amovie. We wouldn't have a
million spin offs or sequels andwhatnot. In fact,

Sal Rodriguez (05:46:15):
I'm kind of thinking Daniel getting into
Cobra Kai when they call it ooh,syrup uncertain.

Jason Connell (05:46:21):
Yeah. Johnny Johnny. Wow. And they both could
just talk about ally

Sal Rodriguez (05:46:26):
Well, we can get into another so cut

Jason Connell (05:46:29):
to Daniel's back at Mr. Miyagi his house
secondary training today sandinglessons, right the circle Yeah,
left a circle the whole porchand his deck is massive Yes.
Beautiful, different layers andyou know well constructed so

(05:46:50):
Daniel didn't really fight thissecond time he's not that upset
he

Sal Rodriguez (05:46:53):
starts joking when he gets the Sanders he's
started Hi, Krishna. That's methe choice stir Yeah. Oh, and
that's when Mr Miyagi saysDanielson always much humor
that's right so then he that'swhat he teaches them right sand.
What's the secretary of wax onwax off the right to

Jason Connell (05:47:08):
circle left this Okay, there we go. Right this
circle

Sal Rodriguez (05:47:12):
left this Breathe in. Breathe out.

Jason Connell (05:47:15):
I love how Mr.
Miyagi just keeps saying it ashe just fades out. He always
lets Daniel this work on hisown, which is great when Mr.

Sal Rodriguez (05:47:21):
Miyagi retires to his place a Daniels out there
working. I was wondering whathe's doing in there. Watching
TV. What's the no

Jason Connell (05:47:28):
I don't think he has a TV. Sometimes he was
meditating. Oh, yes. Sometimeshe goes fishing, which we'll get
to. Yes. And sometimes he getsdrunk No, he's gonna get there
working. learning karate. Sookay, next day Daniel does the
impossible.

Sal Rodriguez (05:47:47):
What does he do?
He lost me.

Jason Connell (05:47:50):
He snags a fly with the chops. Oh, yes. Yes. As
soon as he walks in, Mr. Miyagiis back at it and you knew

Sal Rodriguez (05:47:59):
it was going to happen. Well, hang on, let's
back up once because there's amoment in time after he finishes
with the with the deck and it'snightfall. And Mr. Miyagi, I
think comes out pickiness, rightlike he just had a nice meal.
Right? Right. And Daniel's like,Oh, my shoulder right. He's
complaining and then Mr. Miyagisays Come back tomorrow 6am and

(05:48:20):
dance when ganache goes? Whatthe hell am I doing? You can
tell he's thinking, what are wedoing right? What am I doing
here? And then he shows up at6am Pretty much bright eyed and
bushy tailed I was surprisedafter the night before he seemed
downright pissed. But that'swhen he shows up then at 6am and
Mr. Miyagi is then at thatmoment trying to catch the flag
with the chopstick yes

Jason Connell (05:48:40):
yes, this is the third day the point of him
catching the fly was that he cando the impossible he could do
anything now I guess that's whathe says the

Sal Rodriguez (05:48:48):
first time we see Mr. Miyagi try to catch a fly.
And Daniel questions him Mr.
Miyagi says he who catch flywith chapstick. accomplish
anything. Talk about aforeshadow This is starting to
make more sense to me now. Sothen when Daniel does it had
been our beginner's luck Yeah,but we there's the viewer should
know he who catches fly withchopstick accomplish anything.

(05:49:09):
So they should then know Okay,he's going to victory.

Jason Connell (05:49:14):
I figured he's at least going to represent
yourself well in the tournament.
Yeah, but I don't know aboutbeating all of them. But you're
right. Aren't get the girlright. Yeah, I guess you've kind
of already got the girl justdon't screw it up. So, so this
lesson this day is paint thefence? Yes. Both sides. Big
Board right hand small boardleft hand up, down and you gotta
hold that pot, you know. It's alot and then of course, Mr.

(05:49:38):
Miyagi retires. And all threedays of training have gone into
The evening. Yes, Daniel istired, he's sore. But he's got
good spirits, you know. So hecomes in the fourth day of
training now coming to thefourth day in a row. This begs
the question, this is notChristmas break. Four days in a

(05:49:59):
row in vain. somebody's missingsome school. Where's the truant
officer? All of a sudden? Imean, he is literally just going
in and skipping school. Okay,

Sal Rodriguez (05:50:11):
hang on. Maybe this happened over Thanksgiving
break. Oh, you know

Jason Connell (05:50:15):
what guess Thanksgiving could be the
tournament is the 90.

Sal Rodriguez (05:50:18):
I'm trying to make sense of it. All

Jason Connell (05:50:19):
right. Yeah. I'll give you that. Okay, so oversell
is starting to really getworried. Okay, you're right.

Sal Rodriguez (05:50:25):
over Thanksgiving weekend. That's good. That's
what you have four days. Spareme,

Jason Connell (05:50:30):
I guess a good scheduler. He's got the paint
ready. He knew.

Sal Rodriguez (05:50:35):
So in fact, we could maybe deduce that Miyagi
was looking for a Daniel Suttonprior to meeting Daniel surf

Jason Connell (05:50:42):
or how many data senses he had for how many runs
and how many run ins as he hadwith a cobra guys over the
years.

Sal Rodriguez (05:50:52):
Places like Miyagi you again, another one of
your kids. Friday was his firstYeah, exactly. Freddy was the
original Karate Kid. That's

Jason Connell (05:50:58):
hilarious. So alright, so we go to this day.
Daniel shows up. Miyagi is gone.
There's a note on the house.
Yes. And this is when he losesit and now it's like Gone
Fishing. I don't know. Did hesay fishing? I think it says
Gone Fishing. Fishing painthouse tells him how to do it.
Yes, I decided stroke. Yes, Idecide. And it's green paints,

(05:51:19):
little arrows, little arrows.
And I believe Daniel crumpled itup throws it and he's mad. But
then he does it. He does it.
Yes. Because he said he made amade an oath. A vow he vowed
itself to follow Mr. Miyagithese rules. And so again, it's
late in the evening. He's nearlydone is like a little patchy is

(05:51:40):
finishing and Miyagi shows upand lets him know he was
fishing. And Daniels just blowsup

Sal Rodriguez (05:51:47):
once all but before that, though, Mr. Miyagi
says something like you missed aspot.

Jason Connell (05:51:50):
That's right.
Yeah, yeah, totally. He's notdone. And so he confronts him.
He lets him have it. Mr. Miyagi,listens, and they're arguing but
Daniels got a real sore shoulderto end Mr. Miyagi wants him to
finish. So what do we see here?

Sal Rodriguez (05:52:05):
That's where he does the famous hand rubbing.
thing on. Let's see if I canduplicate the sound.

Jason Connell (05:52:11):
That's it. I think he I think he does this
first, though. He doesn't clap.
He does that in a tournament forsure. Okay, he does a clap. And
then his hands get much hotterthan ours. Because it's like
superpowers. Yeah. And he feelsbetter. Daniel. Yeah. And some
sort of acupressure Accu heatback you heat Miyagi heat. And
then comes what I like to callthe Kaiser so say moment, when

(05:52:34):
Daniels losing his mind, Miyagibrings him over and has him run
through everything. And it justspeeds into this a wonderful
exchange that he's realizing allthis muscle memory. He's kind of
like Jason Bourne. And how doall these things all of a
sudden, yes, how did I do that?
Show me

Sal Rodriguez (05:52:54):
paint the fence and and show me wax on wax off.
Couple times

Jason Connell (05:52:57):
are clunky, because it goes to bend down.
And he's like, Yeah, but when hegot through it, they worked on
that it was really goodexchange. Yeah. And then you
knew like as an audience getcrystallized like, oh my gosh,
he's really picking some thingsup this is actually working. And
well that's where

Sal Rodriguez (05:53:14):
the How comes in where you go. Oh, this is why he
did all that. Exactly. This iswhy you

Jason Connell (05:53:20):
guys are so safe from usual suspects it all fell
into place. So next day, moretraining worth the ocean. Okay,
he takes so

Sal Rodriguez (05:53:28):
again before the canoe on the lake, this is a
day. Okay, same day,

Jason Connell (05:53:32):
first time he gets him out there in the waves
and Mr. Miyagi is on thetraining. And then he's on the
edge of the boat, which nowwe're five days in a row. So I
guess maybe Thanksgiving break,but I'm still questioning
school. And we're not seeing hismother and like forever. She's
in overtime at the restaurant.
She's totally Orient Express,was doing some water balancing
in the ocean trying to stand upwith waves crashing on him. And

(05:53:53):
as they leave the ocean for thefirst time, they run into a
couple of Yahoo

Sal Rodriguez (05:54:02):
Yahoo's now they who the hell these guys are
drinking beer at Miyagi car andresting their beer bottles on
his car on his classic car whodoes this?

Jason Connell (05:54:13):
And obviously, it's a very racially charged
seem. They're making fun of him.
Well, one of those guys Yahoo.
Number one was Larry Drake. NowLarry Drake was an LA law. Yes,
he played Dark man. Okay, and heplayed Dr. Google, okay. He grew
up in Tulsa, Oklahoma. He wentto my high school, Edison Senior
High. He was the commencementspeaker at my graduation. And

(05:54:37):
this is years before that,though. So I'm like who is this
guy but that's why he went on tobe he actually he's passed away
as well, which is another restin peace. But he played a real
jerk in this role. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez (05:54:48):
I didn't recognize him at that moment.
Because I know who that I knowwho you're talking about when

Jason Connell (05:54:52):
you see it again, when you watch him again, you
you'd see on the left or theright. He's your number one.
Okay.

Sal Rodriguez (05:54:57):
He had the most lines. Okay, it's got the right.
Yeah, in fact, the guy that leftI don't even know if he had any
lines.

Jason Connell (05:55:02):
No pocket has been one Yahoo, but it would
have been weird to have one guy.
Yeah. So it can add a dog, a guydodging a beer. So Miyagi comes
over and does an impossiblebottle trick, I

Sal Rodriguez (05:55:13):
think. Yeah. What does he do? He karate. It's not
a karate chop, but a karateslice because he goes
horizontal. But he does a palmup, horizontal slice across four
bottles, that ended up stayingon the car. And then he slices
through these bottles and knocksthe tops off, not the top off,
but not the top, but like thetop glass, the top, the skinny

(05:55:35):
part of the bottle. He knocksoff leaves the broad part of the
bottles sitting there.

Jason Connell (05:55:40):
So I think this is impossible. I think it's
impossible. Even he had thesharpest sword in the world. It
would be impossible. Okay.

Sal Rodriguez (05:55:49):
I did actually see a guy on YouTube do this.
And now that I'm thinking aboutit, maybe he got the idea from
Karate Kid. I did see a guy whomade sword so I follow this
YouTube video of how he's makingthe sword. And then at the end,
he does do that with the swordwith these bottles. So yeah, can
you do it with your hand, butthe bottles would have to be
held down. Yeah, secure down.
I'm

Jason Connell (05:56:08):
not even doubting that Miyagi of someone in that
elk could do it. I'm sayingmaybe there's someone out there,
but you got to hold the bottlesdown. Yeah, he's got to hit it
so clean.

Sal Rodriguez (05:56:17):
Well, he'd have to have a razor on the side of
his hand. Even then they're not

Jason Connell (05:56:20):
secured. Yeah, it was impressive. Sure. It would
have been equally impressive. Ifhe just sliced him on. They
broke him. It's blew up

Sal Rodriguez (05:56:28):
now. Okay, wait a second, though. If you're gonna
say that's impossible. Why isn'tPat Merida Pat Norris? Noriyuki.
Marina was 52 years old when hetook this role on do you think
it's impossible for 52 year oldguy to beat up six teenage
martial artists? No, notimpossible. Not impossible.
Okay, yet the bottle will youconsider to be impossible? Yes.

(05:56:50):
Okay. All right. Physics. Okay.
Yeah, I don't believe it. God.
Okay, so that but as a kid Ididn't. didn't mind how about
this? Throw the bottle up slicein midair would love that. That
could have been possible.
Totally. Yeah.

Jason Connell (05:57:02):
Okay. Yeah. It was just the fact that they
stayed there because I almostI've watched it again today. And
you see him kind of like beingheld somehow. Yeah. Anyway, he
scares the Yahoos impressesDaniel and presses himself.
Sure.

Sal Rodriguez (05:57:15):
Yeah. Because because Daniel says something
like, how did you know that? Youcan do that? Or have you ever
done that before?

Jason Connell (05:57:20):
First time? Yeah.
Okay, so he never did that. Socut two more train at the ocean,
this time balancing on the boatuntil Miyagi dumps him in the
water. Oh, yeah. So this is thefirst time he was on the boat on
the edge of the boat. So nextwe're off to the Encino oaks
Country Club. Yeah, so Daniel isgonna go meet with Ali odd for
him to meet Ali at the countryclub could have just met her

(05:57:43):
anywhere but the country clubbut he's gonna go there. Johnny
sees him in the kitchen becausefor some reason, oh, she was
gonna meet Daniel up front. Hegot tired of waiting. She got
held up. So he went inside tothe kitchen. Okay, I know. And
he was peeking through therestaurant window.

Sal Rodriguez (05:58:02):
I was curious why he went through the kitchen. He
was an invited guest and I takeit was it?

Jason Connell (05:58:07):
No, he was going to meet her out front. He wasn't
an invited guest. So he justpopped. Yeah, so he had none of
the attire. So Johnny of courseCobra Kai instincts spots him
looking and lays one on Ali tomake it look like like they're
making more making out like oldschool. The old days.

Sal Rodriguez (05:58:25):
Daniels looks through these you know, swing
doors of the kitchen through thewindow sees Johnny totally
making out with Ali are kissingwants. Well, from his
perspective, it looks likethey're making out Yeah. And
then he runs off before shepushes has a chance to push
Johnny away.

Jason Connell (05:58:43):
But when he runs off, What's he do? Oh, he

Sal Rodriguez (05:58:45):
runs into a waiter and knocks over like this
whole giant plate of spaghetti.

Jason Connell (05:58:51):
That was pretty Exactly. So he's

Sal Rodriguez (05:58:53):
mortified. Yeah, well, because everybody like the
whole place stops and

Jason Connell (05:58:57):
sees one of those classic 80s movie seeing the
whole all the, you know the richcountry club. It was very
Caddyshack, these snobbery thesesaw him wipe out and laughed at
him.

Sal Rodriguez (05:59:09):
Sure. And Ali was receipt of boy again. Terry is

Jason Connell (05:59:13):
Oh, you're not still seeing that boy, are you?
So Daniel is embarrassed, runsoff and takes refuge at Mr.
Miyagi. He's who is in fullmilitary gear and he's drunk.
Okay, so he was having a nightin? Yes, doing his own thing.
Yes. We learned some things tosave names such as how Mr.

(05:59:34):
Miyagi lost his wife and newbornchild? Yes. And it was in
childbirth.

Sal Rodriguez (05:59:39):
Yes, his wife died during childbirth. And his
son was born. It

Jason Connell (05:59:42):
was a newborn newborn son. So what happened to
the son They both died it was Iguess newborn and then there was
there was a problem and theylost them both.

Sal Rodriguez (05:59:50):
They both died at birth. Yes, her birth and the
baby the baby died too. How doesthat happen? You talk about the
bottles. I thought

Jason Connell (05:59:58):
it was unborn and then hearing it today they said
newborn and he And so Mr.
America doesn't tell DanielDaniel read recent paper Yes.
What's the paper pie would be inJapanese but it was an English
for Daniel's sake. And so

Sal Rodriguez (06:00:13):
well from a lot of the trivia I've been looking
up Mr. Miyagi was in theJapanese division of the USSR.

Jason Connell (06:00:20):
Okay, so hey, I think correct Yeah. So it reads
that we can see it had thispermanent hole and Mr. Miyagi
knows what she's never as far aswe know, married anyone else
never had children. So this thisbond between him and Daniel is
is a special to him as it is toDaniel and a kind of a touching

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same and it's nice to see thatMr. Miyagi is vulnerable.

Sal Rodriguez (06:00:43):
He is a regular man, to regular man, regular man
who happens to be a karatemaster. Also, though, you'd be
bring up who happens to

Jason Connell (06:00:49):
be a maintenance man and a collector of cars.

Sal Rodriguez (06:00:53):
We hear no mention ever of Daniel's father,
right? There is no Daniel'sFather,

Jason Connell (06:00:58):
we would have to go back to those New Jersey
scenes and see if something issaid.

Sal Rodriguez (06:01:02):
They're just taken off in the car. You know,

Jason Connell (06:01:04):
it's a question for rough mochi. Yeah, I

Sal Rodriguez (06:01:06):
don't think there's any reference to a
father. So either there's neverbeen a father or

Jason Connell (06:01:10):
horse or whatever. I mean, there was a
father at some point at somepoint, but we don't know. We
don't know. Yeah. And so he'scarrying that around, too.
That's a lot of baggage. Youknow?

Sal Rodriguez (06:01:19):
Okay. Yeah. So there's that bonding, and it's
very tender and sweet. Danielputs Mr. Miyagi on his bed puts
a blanket over him. That's whenhe sees the metals. That's when
he reads about that's when itstarts to make sense. He starts
to know more about Mr. Miyagi,because we don't we don't know
much about Mr. Miyagi prior tothis. So that's what we realized
since World War Two, he'sliterally grieving, deceased

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wife and child, which is howmuch more heartbreaking can you
get, you

Jason Connell (06:01:43):
know, and they built this incredible place just
for himself. You know, he'spretty lonely. So I can see why
he spends time at the complex.
He's carving pumpkins. All wedon't know is Mr. Miyagi.
Probably has a bond with otherfamilies inside that complex.
Interesting. You know, if I'vebeen there forever, yeah. You
know, seven, Sally

Sal Rodriguez (06:02:01):
has helped Freddie with his bicycle. Yeah,
totally.

Jason Connell (06:02:04):
That old lady the dog. He's probably that guy. And
that's his family. But Danielneeded more help than most.
Yeah, they owe this bond toCobra Kai.

Sal Rodriguez (06:02:14):
Good enough for COBRA. Kai has a

Jason Connell (06:02:16):
lot to do with this happening.

Sal Rodriguez (06:02:18):
So in other words, maybe Cobra Kai is not so
bad. Yeah.

Jason Connell (06:02:22):
So back to training. Daniel. This time is
alone. He's taking theinitiative. And he's working on
the Crane Kick. He's in the boatby himself. I mean, maybe maybe
Mr. Miyagi is around but Danielhas stepped up his game because
it's all starting to happen. ButI was even watching this
thinking he isn't sparred withanybody. You know? It's a lot of

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karate already

Sal Rodriguez (06:02:44):
worked in any defense. Exactly.

Jason Connell (06:02:47):
So well, I

Sal Rodriguez (06:02:48):
don't know. No, no, you don't say that. The wax
on wax off. Its defensive. Isdefensive. Yeah.

Jason Connell (06:02:52):
But then exane Mr. Miyagi is teaching him the
one inch punch. Yeah. And he'sgot the baseball field next to
the lake. Exactly. Which I thinkis a Bruce Lee thing if I'm not
mistaken

Sal Rodriguez (06:03:02):
with a one inch punch I think was was brutally
which was amazing.

Jason Connell (06:03:07):
And so and there's a little bit of Finally
he's punching something not justair because Mr. Miyagi is
wearing like the catcher'sprotective gear. And he's
hitting him he's got the maskon. Yeah. And that was nice to
see like it was like it was abeautiful shot. You got the car
you got the sunset you have thelake in the field. It's a nice

Sal Rodriguez (06:03:25):
shot and then Daniel starts being silly and
starts dancing and shifting hisfeet around like he's a boxer in
the race Muhammad Ali are ourSugar Ray Leonard Yeah, he
starts being kind of silly. Andthen doesn't Mr. Miyagi, take
them down, takes him down. Ittakes it down. Knock it off.

Jason Connell (06:03:38):
Knock it off, Dennis. So cut to Daniel's
birthday. And Mr. Miyagi can doany and everything so he makes a
great cake. He's got twopresents.

Sal Rodriguez (06:03:51):
Yeah, the second president. I mean, once you
they're both really cool. Butespecially the second president
of course,

Jason Connell (06:03:57):
we saw the first president is an amazing gi
that's not It's not homemade. Itwas handed down. It was like it
was Mr. Miyagi Gi. Yes. So hegets a beautiful GI and peppery

Sal Rodriguez (06:04:07):
to actually design the emblem. Oh, he did.
Yeah. Does not have the emblemon the GI.

Jason Connell (06:04:11):
Oh, that's great.
Well, well done, sir. So I wasthinking during all this
training, schoolwork avoidingCobra Kai, and plus ally time,
Daniel managed to get hisdriver's license. Yes, that's
where he's displays. He has itoff camera of course. And I
guess he's been driving Mr.
Miyagi around so much. Heprobably got good at stuff.

(06:04:33):
Yeah. So he has his license, butit clicks in Daniel's mind. Oh
my gosh, my mother's making me aspecial cake. Yeah, his second
birthday cake. I gotta get outof here I just remembered. So he
he's in a hurry to leave andhe's got one cake there. And Mr.
Miyagi has the second gift.
Yeah.

Sal Rodriguez (06:04:50):
And the second gift is where he takes him out,
shows him the four cars, andsays to Daniel choose, and
there's keys in all of them.
Yeah. So he gives Daniel thechoice of all the cars and of
course, Daniel chooses the cars.
Any high school kid, probablymost guys will choose. And that
is the Cool Convertible, whichhappens to be a 1948 Ford Super

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Deluxe. And I stress the wordsuper, because the carbon grease
that they use in the greasedlightning scene is 1948 Deluxe,
not super deluxe. These are thelittle things I always

Jason Connell (06:05:27):
want to tell us what we're looking at here.

Sal Rodriguez (06:05:30):
Well, what I have in my collection, because I'm a
toy collectors, I have a HotWheels, the Karate Kid, yellow
1948 Ford Super Deluxe replicafrom the movie. And that's what
had me to then discover thatthis same car was used in
Greece, and Back to the FuturebiFs car. This is a super
deluxe. That was a 1946 SuperDeluxe 46. Yeah, the Biff car

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from Back to the Future were themanure. That was a 1946 Ford
Super Deluxe. The GreasedLightning car was a 1948 Ford
Deluxe. So on that note stickingwith 1948 This is the only one
of these Well, this car, the1948 Ford Super Deluxe from the
Karate Kid is more GreasedLightning. Then Greased

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Lightning.

Jason Connell (06:06:18):
Well done, sir.

Sal Rodriguez (06:06:20):
That's pretty fast.

Jason Connell (06:06:21):
This is a great thing. By the way. It's Hot
Wheels. It's unopened, ofcourse. And of course and the
background is the crane. Thiswas like some of the merch that
really existed. Yeah, this

Sal Rodriguez (06:06:30):
is Daniel son doing the crane on the wooden
pole. Beautiful backgrounds. Butthis is a new item. This is from
2014 Oh, okay. Yeah, this is notvintage. No, this is from 2014
had me Hot Wheels came out withall kinds of recent cars.
Christina Lopresti. From themovie, Christine, Stephen King.
I got the grease car. Okay, Iwas gonna get the Biff car from

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Back to the Future. But itdoesn't look like manure. You
know what it looks like whenthey read manure on there. They
put manure on the Biff cars beefin it. I don't know why they did
that because it doesn't evenlook like that. They don't have
Danielson in there. No, that'sweird. Yeah, it is kind of
weird. The Galley in there andthen. But yeah, you can go ahead
and get a Hot Wheels by Mattel,the Karate Kid. 1948 Ford Super

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Deluxe car looks just like inthe movie. And I'm proud to own
it.

Jason Connell (06:07:16):
So when that movie came out, and he chose
that car, I remember thinking,Yes, that's a great car.
However, when I watch it now, Igot my eyes on that black car,
whatever that was the BlackBerrywas really stylish. There's a
couple there was so easy to looknow I'm looking past what I
know. Because you wouldn't havechosen this car at the time.
Yes. Now something else really?
I've got my eyes on a couple ofother cars when you watch it

(06:07:40):
again. Look, it's because you'velooking past those. Yeah. So
there's there's a couple styleunconscious, whatever missing
Americans got good taste.

Sal Rodriguez (06:07:48):
He gives him a car. It's given me a car my
parents never gave

Jason Connell (06:07:52):
me I didn't give him some old Honda Accord gave
him a collector's

Sal Rodriguez (06:07:56):
Yeah. And then what does he do? He hops in the
car drives to golf and stuff

Jason Connell (06:08:00):
was so well, right. He's supposed to go see
his mom bought his birthday. Somaybe it was off camera.

Sal Rodriguez (06:08:06):
That's right. He said I gotta rush off because my
mother has something.

Jason Connell (06:08:09):
I oversaw her making the cake. I think he I
hope he went by saw Mom. offcamera. Yeah. Because my you
know, maybe they shot it. Andthen he

Sal Rodriguez (06:08:19):
goes to golf and stuff. Let's hope otherwise. He
just his mother,

Jason Connell (06:08:23):
or his mom disappears for a big chunk of
the movie. She comes back in thetournament, but she's gone. So
seven seas. Yeah. So

Sal Rodriguez (06:08:29):
Freddie's out of the movie at the beach. Right?
We don't see him again. Do we?

Jason Connell (06:08:32):
Know why? No, I think he's at the tournament.
Freddy's at the tournament totournament I've totally forgot
he's all sudden he wants to gethis autograph. No, I will show
you he's at the turn. So you'reright. So he's off he's doing
bonds

Sal Rodriguez (06:08:47):
Yeah, that's right a bonds inside bonsai
bonsai

Jason Connell (06:08:51):
goes to golf and stuff and it relates to when Ali
back because she's really kindof fed up with Daniel at this
point. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez (06:08:58):
she's kind of fed up with his tantrums him running
off all the time. him startingstuff I can like at like at the
dance when he he's dresses theshower. He instigated that
night.

Jason Connell (06:09:08):
And he tried to be mad at her for what he didn't
know happened at the countryclub. Yeah, one of her friends
tells

Sal Rodriguez (06:09:14):
one of her friends says Hey, you didn't see
the punch. Exactly. That'sright. So so the friend
explained to Daniel that shepushed him away and punched him.
Daniel didn't see that. That'swhen he goes over to try to make
up with Ali and he does they domake up

Jason Connell (06:09:27):
make up because they golf in his car. Yeah, he
lets her drive his car that Ithought was an odd choice. He
really got some points there.

Sal Rodriguez (06:09:35):
I never let a woman drop MA Not a greased
lightning. Yeah, that wasinteresting that he had her
drive but hey, she knows how todrive stick. She popped the
clutch. Remember

Jason Connell (06:09:44):
that stick Yeah.
Oh, that's cool. Yeah, okay, Ididn't know that. Okay, so they
drive off. And so now it's here.
It is the big day. And Daniel isa black belt. But how did he get
his black belt?

Sal Rodriguez (06:10:00):
Well, you're talking about how they got to
the target they got to thetournament they get to the
tournament they're signing in atthe registration desk and I
guess they have a prerequisitethe guys like oh what belt is
your student and then Mr. Miyagilies right he doesn't he
officially lie.

Jason Connell (06:10:13):
Yeah, not to plan it on Mr. Miyagi as part here
not to have a belt. They're kindof sneaking

Sal Rodriguez (06:10:17):
them into the tournament sort of. Yeah. And
then Mr. Miyagi says black belt,and then he leans in distracts
the guy at the desk who'ssigning them in. He has alley
kind of Oh, it doesn't havealley grab something.

Jason Connell (06:10:31):
He steals a black belt out of a bag and enhanced
alley.

Sal Rodriguez (06:10:35):
That's what happens. Okay, so he grabs Ali's
ham distracts the guy has alleythe belts stolen right out of
the guy's bag. Ali takes thebelt gives it to Daniel Daniel
puts it out of the locker room.

Jason Connell (06:10:45):
I mean, it's a ninja move for sure.

Sal Rodriguez (06:10:47):
It's total ninja but at the same time I'm
thinking Miss chicken Mr.
Miyagi. He's doing some scammeanwhile, that

Jason Connell (06:10:52):
guy has a fight in a little while. He's probably
not fighting that guy is prettybadass. That guy's probably just
to overseer but he's

Sal Rodriguez (06:10:59):
got no belt. No, that sucks. No Mr. Miyagi stole
his belt.

Jason Connell (06:11:02):
Although a guy like that probably has a second
belt. Sure

Sal Rodriguez (06:11:05):
that guy well, the belt is just symbolic. You
might have 10 at home but yeah,the point is when Mr. Miyagi did
that, you know characters inmovies or TV? They'll do
something where you start tosecond guess who they are. So
you start to think yeah, he'snot Mr. St. Innocent for sure.

Jason Connell (06:11:19):
You could paint a different picture if you saw him
drawn console him takenadvantage of Daniel and yeah, in
hitting the beer bottles. Youmay have a different image of
Mr. Miyagi. You

Sal Rodriguez (06:11:28):
could make a trailer that you really The
Karate Kid shows. The bad

Jason Connell (06:11:32):
guy increases a good guy. He's

Sal Rodriguez (06:11:34):
a good guy.
Johnny's

Jason Connell (06:11:35):
footage of Chris being very good, Johnny, maybe.
So we're at the tournament,

Sal Rodriguez (06:11:40):
all roads have led to the ole Valley
tournament. And I'm thinkingbased on what's occurred based
on my experience of living inthe San Fernando Valley. I'm
playing this tournamenttournament happens in Northridge
Northridge, probably a goodspot. Tarzana, I'm thinking that
somewhere going to be WestValley I'm not thinking this
tournament going to take placein the east valley North
Hollywood. No. Sherman Oaks

Jason Connell (06:12:01):
No, no,

Sal Rodriguez (06:12:02):
this is happening West

Jason Connell (06:12:03):
I think it was also once called Deep valley.
No, I'm just kidding. Okay.

Sal Rodriguez (06:12:08):
So I'm thinking I'm thinking Tarzana, Northridge
maybe Chatsworth

Jason Connell (06:12:12):
found that a school so we can look it up. Oh,
it

Sal Rodriguez (06:12:14):
was Northridge it was That's That's awesome. Okay.
Yeah. Well, they don't mentionit in the movie. Not but the
location was his Cal StateUniversity Northridge in
Northridge. And that was preearthquake. The earthquake was
94. Yeah, 94 Northridgeearthquake. Yeah, so this was
pre earthquake. Okay.

Jason Connell (06:12:33):
So, we're at the tournament, and as we're walking
through and Daniel's put in hisbelt, well, first of all the
cover guys give him crapbackstage, but that's broken up
pretty quickly.

Sal Rodriguez (06:12:43):
In the locker room in the locker room, the
Cobra Kai comes in tointimidate. Yep. And I think
it's the referee.

Jason Connell (06:12:48):
Referee comes in to say, hey, says, Hey, what the
heck and it wasn't even Johnny.
It was really Dutch was kind ofleading the effort. He's also
just a really bad guy. Yeah. Andso but as we're walking through
the tournament, Mr. Miyagi hasto kind of pull a fast on again,
because they don't let anyone onthe mat. And then he pretended
he couldn't speak. Yeah.
Interpreter translator Yes. Andthey tricked them, and then they

(06:13:10):
get to stay. But Ali also knowsthe rules. And she clearly tells
Daniel, you know, headshots arelegal. It's one point and kind
of gives them the breakdown ofthe body. However, we go on to
see a lot of headshots getdeductions. Yes. And so there is
a little bit of controversythere. If you're watching the
tournament, you're seeing somenot count and which kind of

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leads to the Crane Kick as well.
Was it legal, not legal.

Sal Rodriguez (06:13:35):
From what I've read, some karate experts have
said that we're in a legitimatetournament. And Daniel were to
do the crane kick that he wouldhave been disqualified. Yes.
I've heard that too. So in otherwords, what we're finding out is
that the Crane Kick then wouldhave been as impossible to win
by as it is to slice bottles ona car.

Jason Connell (06:13:56):
I still think slicing bottles is more
unbelievable. However, after allthat Daniel went through with
the D cues and the takedowns ofhis legs. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I
think allowing him to have thatmoment. And then Johnny had come
what we're way ahead ofourselves. We're way ahead.
We're getting there. So

Sal Rodriguez (06:14:15):
cut to cut to the montage of the tournament
happening,

Jason Connell (06:14:18):
right? Well, right when the montage is
happening. I noticed thisearlier. Daniel is in his first
battle first fight, which is alittle overwhelming. He's a
little rusty. He's gettingpushed out of the ring. He's
pushed out of bounds and theywarn him when we're out of
bounds. He's out

Sal Rodriguez (06:14:34):
of his element.
Like you said, we never saw himspar and he never so this

Jason Connell (06:14:36):
is like he's got to catch up with this very
quickly and get the speed down.
And he gets a point he scores apoint with like reverse Some
sort of hit. We heard Ali sayyou're the best. And I swear
that's when they cue up theinfamous Joe Esposito song.
You're the best and we go intothis incredible montage and that

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song immediately becomes iconicYeah, but we have some backstory
on the song

Sal Rodriguez (06:15:05):
The backstory I believe of the year the best
song is that that song was goingto be used in Rocky three I

Jason Connell (06:15:12):
believe it was created for Rocky three great
for Rocky three. It was replacedby

Sal Rodriguez (06:15:16):
bass by survivors. I have the tiger.
Exactly. So then they decided tothen use the song for the Karate
Kid.

Jason Connell (06:15:21):
No, no, no if there's another one. Oh, so that
was the first? Yes. And thenthey considered it for
Flashdance. Oh, wow. And then itbecame maniac. Oh, wow. So

Sal Rodriguez (06:15:32):
this song has been bumped out twice. Well till
it finally landed in karate.

Jason Connell (06:15:35):
Also the 80s had an embarrassment of riches of
like, hit soundtrack songs. Andthe songs is floating around. I
mean, yeah, it's an incrediblesong could have worked in so
many movies. You know, good likea Top Gun. You know, how many
Kenny Loggins songs that heYeah, he was Kenny Loggins.

Sal Rodriguez (06:15:52):
Way to the danger zone.

Jason Connell (06:15:56):
He also the Caddyshack.

Sal Rodriguez (06:15:58):
Yeah. Like it's so songs over the top. In fact,
would you say that more goodsongs came out of 80s movies,
the 90s movies? I can barelyremember any songs out of 90s
movies.

Jason Connell (06:16:07):
Yeah, that came from the movie. Yeah, I probably
80s Yeah. So this montage isgoing on for a while

Sal Rodriguez (06:16:13):
and a fight tournament or any tournament.
You will fight multiple times ina night. Yeah, exactly.

Jason Connell (06:16:19):
You got four or five fights to get there.
Because, again, a lot of timesit's only 2.2 and three points.
You're when it's over. Iremember being in them and it's
more your own adrenaline iscranking and that fight didn't
last that long. Sure. This isn'ta boxing match. It's going 12
grueling rounds and you'reslugging it out yet. The point
is not that you're going forpoints and you've got to stay

(06:16:40):
fresh and you're young and andthere's some good fighting in
this sequence you're seeing Ithink you're seeing real black
belts

Sal Rodriguez (06:16:46):
go one of those guys. Definitely tournament
semifinalist Darrell Vidal. He'sgreat. Yeah, he really was
kicking butt. Yes.

Jason Connell (06:16:53):
And even Dutch.
You could tell. You can separatethe men from the boys. I mean,
yes. Daniel did great as toJohnny, but those other guys are
doing those really big kicks andsweeping moves. And they're
losing because they have to, butthey're gonna

Sal Rodriguez (06:17:07):
tell that they actually had some real legit
martial arts experience. Yeah,it was a

Jason Connell (06:17:10):
really well done tournament, and I like the whole
look and feel of it. I'd neverseen a criterium at that point
in time in my life. And theboard in the background. I'd
never been to one that had aboard like that. That was nice
to see as I've had golf board,you kept moving up and seeing
LORUSSO move up to take theCobra Kai's and the way Chris
was increasingly mad, as yousaw, like Cobra Kai, after Cobra

(06:17:33):
Kai, not necessarily lose toDaniel, but just getting bested
elsewhere. Or sometimes it'sCobra Kai and Cobra Kai.

Sal Rodriguez (06:17:39):
Yes, it happens.
Sure. Well, you what you startto see as Chris become
frustrated, yes. And that's whenhe starts to say, let's we're
gonna start playing dirt. Yeah.

Jason Connell (06:17:50):
I remember being in a tournament and making it to
the finals. And I had to find myown guy, my own Wild Bunch, guy.
And much like in sports,whatever I want to win, but it
was also a little like, ah, andI was hoping I would fight
another guy. Sure. It was like,seriously a credit card moment.
And it was two two. And we bothwent in. And I lost

Sal Rodriguez (06:18:11):
three guys still friends after that. Night. That
guy?

Jason Connell (06:18:14):
Yes, of course.
We're friends. We did drive hometogether. So I had the second
place and he had the first placetrophy. So we are at the
tournament. And you're the bestis playing great song. And
Daniel's moving through theranks.

Sal Rodriguez (06:18:28):
Wait, you're the best is playing at this moment
in time before the locker room?
Yeah. Okay. I thought it playsafter

Jason Connell (06:18:34):
No, it doesn't play in the end. Remember that
score. Okay. It's that earlymontage when he just gets his
footing. Okay. And thetournament screws in a lot. All
right. So we're listening toyour the best and it helps us
kind of get through the earlyparts of the turn. Okay. And a
Cobra Kai on Cobra Kai, somereally good martial artists and
Daniel's understanding his way.
And along that journey. He'swaiting a few too many matches

(06:18:59):
for crease the Cobra Kai sensei.
Yeah, so he orders Bobby to

Sal Rodriguez (06:19:05):
finish him.
stuff. He's not finished him.
Put them down. What

Jason Connell (06:19:08):
does it send down?

Sal Rodriguez (06:19:09):
Put him down? And he goes, but I can win this.

Jason Connell (06:19:11):
So basically DQ yourself for the team?

Sal Rodriguez (06:19:14):
Yeah. And so he does. So in other words, Chris
wants to punish Daniel.

Jason Connell (06:19:19):
He doesn't want to take any chances. Yeah. And
so he does instruct Bobby to whoBobby's proved himself
throughout the film to. Yes,he's a Cobra Kai, but he's also
showed mercy every now andagain. And he takes Daniel down.
Yeah, and it gets disqualified.
And he gets DQ but heimmediately runs over and
apologize. Yeah. As soon as he

Sal Rodriguez (06:19:40):
takes him down and Daniels there writhing in
pain. He runs over to him. Hesays I'm sorry, I'm Sorry, he
felt for him. But he followedthe commands of his sensei. So
yes,

Jason Connell (06:19:50):
he did that. And Daniel looks like he's done. In
fact, they brought a housedoctor with a white coat and
everything. White Coat. He's inthe locker room and two official
standing over him with shirtsthat said official and his
mother and his girlfriend Aliand Mr. Miyagi. Oh, you're

(06:20:10):
missing is a is a priest. Yeah.
And he's out of there. He'sdone. And the doctor says, I'll
go report this to everybody thatyou know, sorry, kid. Yeah. Next
time.

Sal Rodriguez (06:20:19):
So the doctor goes off to tell the tournament
officials that Daniel Lewis wasdone, and that's when they're
going to start handing out thetrophy is

Jason Connell (06:20:25):
going to Johnny.
Yes, DQ Here you go for forfeit.
I guess that's what it would be.
Yeah. Not DQ. And the presentersgreat texts. He's got a little,
you know, Western outfit. Yeah.
And so Daniel does not want tohear it. He shoots his mother
and Ally away. And Mr. Miyagilooks into his eyes, and then

(06:20:46):
performs the Miyagi magic. Andhe does that,

Sal Rodriguez (06:20:52):
but we don't see it that we cut away. Yeah, we
know what happens. We know whathappened. He does. He does the
warm hands on his knee. I guess.
It would be his knee. Yeah, theback of his knee. Yeah. So he
does the warm hands on his knee.
You know, we cut so we don't butwe know what's happening. They
cut and now they're given thetrophy to Johnny but then Ali
runs out.

Jason Connell (06:21:09):
I wish I had known Mr. Miyagi. Before I had
my ACL. I could have avoidedsurgeries just right there done.
And so yes, Ally comes runningout. Daniel's gonna fight Daniel
Russo's gonna fight and then thecrowd just starts to go berserk.
Because we got ourselves afight. Yeah. And it's a good
one. Yeah. You know, Danielcomes out is hobbled. But he's,

(06:21:33):
he's moving. And they have avery good sequence much better
than I remember. I mean, by now,they probably practiced a lot
together, especiallychoreographed sequences
together. They look really good.
Johnny's looking like, you know,a pretty good martial artist.

Sal Rodriguez (06:21:46):
I definitely want to agree with you on that. It is
a pretty good fight sequence. Iremember I saw a movie called
warrior that was based on mixedmartial arts. You saw that with
Dan Hardy, Joel Edgerton

Jason Connell (06:21:58):
and Joel Edgerton. Yeah. And Nick Nulty
was nominated for an Oscar.

Sal Rodriguez (06:22:01):
Okay, but I liked it. I've already been a fan of
mixed martial arts for so manyyears. So when I saw that movie,
I just some things just reallystruck me as fake.

Jason Connell (06:22:10):
I cried. You know, that movie though? I'm
sorry.

Sal Rodriguez (06:22:13):
Okay, so when I see Karate Kid, though, those
moves look pretty real andpretty good.

Jason Connell (06:22:17):
It did. It's different, because they don't
show a sequence that goes onthis long in any of the fights
so far. Yeah. This is thelongest fight of the alternator.
And they've stretched out for areason. But yeah, good point.
But they've choreographed thiswell. And they also give Dan to
the lead. I mean, he's up to Oh,Johnny's got to rally back. So
crease instructs him to sweepthe leg. Certainly,

Sal Rodriguez (06:22:41):
he added damage to something that was already
dead, right?

Jason Connell (06:22:44):
I'm surprised that Johnny wasn't D cued as
well. He was worn, but I knowit's the championship so

Sal Rodriguez (06:22:50):
they may score differently in championship.
Yeah,

Jason Connell (06:22:52):
DQ, Sir, we're not gonna do that. So he hurts
him at the end of this greatbattle. And Daniel is forced to
barely put any pressure on thatleg, which just happens to tie
into the infamous crank. Yes.
And so we know it's coming.
We've seen in practice thatwe've seen Mr. Miyagi, practice

(06:23:14):
it, but you know, hasn't seenit. Johnny? Johnny has seen it.
Well, also,

Sal Rodriguez (06:23:19):
I don't know really know if if a viewer sees
this movie for the first time,they saw the montage they saw
the crane, but I don't know ifthey're going to assume that
that move they saw on the woodenpost at the beach is going to be
the winning move. At the end.

Jason Connell (06:23:32):
I want to say that I remember it being it, but
I probably didn't either. And Ijust knew he didn't have much
more fight and him.

Sal Rodriguez (06:23:40):
Yeah. So he needed that one superior move.
And remember, just like Mr.
Miyagi said earlier when theytalked about the crane earlier
in the movie, if done, right, nocan defend. That's fine. That's
fine. So what is a superiormove? It is a game changer. It's
game changer. And

Jason Connell (06:23:57):
that's highly illegal.

Sal Rodriguez (06:24:00):
Yeah, again, if you talk to some experts,
supposedly they say you wouldnot want to do that in a
tournament. You would not beallowed to do that in a
tournament. You kick youropponent in the face.

Jason Connell (06:24:07):
Yes. So this whole sequence to me when he
comes back from the Miyagimagical hands healing. It's very
rocky ask, yeah, what's reallyfeeds into the director John
Albertsons, you know,background, but unlike Rocky,
Rocky doesn't win in the firstRocky, he loses to Apollo Creed,

(06:24:29):
but he gets respect. I forgotthat he doesn't he wins in the
second

Sal Rodriguez (06:24:32):
one. Wait, rocky doesn't win in the first movie.
No, he loses really.

Jason Connell (06:24:37):
He loses to Apollo Creed. But the whole
thing is he's a bomb fromPhiladelphia off the street and
he took the champ to thedistance so he was a winner.
Yeah, and his life changed, butthen he got the rematch. Okay.
And so he won. But you just knewsomething was brewing beneath
the surface. The music wasdifferent. The score was
swelling. And when he hung inthere that long you just thought

(06:24:58):
the longer Daniel stays in thisthing. He's got a chance. Yeah.
And then the infamous same wouldhave which I'm so glad you sent
me the photo from Floyd's inEncino.

Sal Rodriguez (06:25:08):
Yeah, if you ever around in the city of Encino, on
Ventura Boulevard, in Encino, itwould be just east of white oak.
There's a Floyd's barber shopand I believe that this mural
was on the building prior toFloyd's taking over the lease.
It's across from somethingcalled supercells market and
sent Israeli market to yours. Itshould be so right there on the

(06:25:30):
side of Floyd's is a wonderful Icall it a mural but it's a
painting beautiful and it's abeautiful painting of that
scene, right before right whenhe's in the crane position a
crane Yeah, and the roof isthere with his hand out there.
And it is that pivotal moment asDaniel goes into the crane. And
then the referee is right thereready to call the action so that
mural if you're ever in Encinois there on the side of the

(06:25:52):
building looks fantastic. It'samazing.

Jason Connell (06:25:54):
I even heard that it was there before the movie.

Sal Rodriguez (06:25:57):
Yeah, that's how iconic that image is.

Jason Connell (06:26:00):
We've got to build a movie around this sorry,

Sal Rodriguez (06:26:06):
I studied the crane because I I tried

Jason Connell (06:26:08):
to bring up the image that you sent me I was
trying to grab it real fast. No,it's amazing. But what

Sal Rodriguez (06:26:11):
I what I wanted to see because I actually
watched over and over the craneitself is what leg you're
standing on and what leg youland on. Now, the way that Mr.
Miyagi does the crane is hestands on one leg and then hops
and then kicks with that leg andlands on the other leg. A little
more simple. Well, Daniel doesthe crane if you look at the way
Mr. Miyagi did the crane at thebeach. You look at the way even

(06:26:31):
Daniel did the crane at thebeach versus the way he does it
in a tournament. You have to addin the hurt leg. So it adds a
third step. Yeah. It's not justjumping from one leg to the
other clunkier.

Jason Connell (06:26:40):
Yeah, but he winds up kicking him with the
healthy with the good lands onthe bad leg which, you know,
could have just fallen downthere. Yeah, but he didn't. He
land currently switched to thehealthy lay. Yes. Yeah. You
never could pull it off on thepole on the ocean. You would
land on said pole, he would have

Sal Rodriguez (06:26:59):
fallen to the side. Yeah, but I just noticed
that because obviously thatimage is so iconic of him and
the crane position. And as a fanof Mixed Martial Arts, and I've
seen so many kicks over theyears. I was like, Well wait a
sec. Okay. So you're standing onthis leg, you use kick with that
leg then you jump to the otherleg. But then now you have the
added hurt leg so you got tojump back on to the good leg. So

(06:27:19):
yeah, he has to do a morecomplex crane than if he didn't
have a hurt leg.

Jason Connell (06:27:24):
Good point. And I would also venture to say that
the crane maybe at one point intime was indefensible post
Karate Kid I can defense that issuper defense on credit don't
walk into the crank Yeah, youknow make them come to you.
Yeah. So take down music swellsalley rushes on. Daniel's the

(06:27:47):
winner and I like how movies inthe 80s this kind of ended yeah
a great sequence by the waybefore we forget. Johnny comes
over and he's the one that givesDaniel the trophy Yeah.

Sal Rodriguez (06:27:59):
Something like you earn this or you deserve
this season something like that.

Jason Connell (06:28:02):
I totally I remember seeing that and like
having all the empathy in theworld for Johnny like wow, he
understood it. He respectsDaniel now no more problems.
Sure. So Mr. Miyagi is plannedand worked all the beef is
squashed. Right. It's over thewhole alley bit all of it. Yeah,
you're one of us, but not one ofus. And that's a great moment
and then we end on Mr. Miyagi.
Who didn't bum rush at this day?

Sal Rodriguez (06:28:26):
No, he'll he allowed Daniel and his
girlfriend I guess the mom alsoFreddie.

Jason Connell (06:28:33):
Joe does make it appearance at the tournament.

Sal Rodriguez (06:28:35):
Ready appears at the tournament on your best
friend. Remember me? Remember methe guy that left you at the
beach? Remember me? So yeah, soMiyagi, let him have his time.
And that that's something Iwould do. By the way. I let
people have their moment toshine, you know. So let them
have their moment. You wouldjust leave. Honestly. Yes.

Jason Connell (06:28:54):
What worse?
Where's my son?

Sal Rodriguez (06:28:57):
He's drunk.

Jason Connell (06:28:58):
He's gone. He moved to Northridge

Sal Rodriguez (06:29:00):
He's wasted.
Yeah, so he lets him have hismoment. Yeah, Johnny runs up
hands on the trophy all piece ofsquash but that's not the
original way that they want itto end. So we end

Jason Connell (06:29:11):
on like, like, close up single shot close close
up of like, Mr. Miyagi flycaller smiling kind of over this
really a cool shot, and it'sover? Yeah, we're not talking
like a slow push. They couldhave done like, a pull out and
send all these people leavingthe stadium but that's how they
ended movies then. So I had readThe Karate Kid book. And when I

(06:29:35):
say book, back in the 80s when Iwas a kid, you couldn't get the
screenplays as far as I know.
But they would release the bookof the movie. Sometimes if I
couldn't go see the movie rightaway, I would knock out the
book. And I think I'd alreadyseen karate kid. So I was just
reading the book. I was soenamored with it. And the end of
the book has a scene that ispast this sequence. That is what

(06:29:58):
starts karate kid too. Yeah. Andlet's talk about that scene just
to kind of end this podcastbecause cardiac get to for the
most part is in Okinawa. It's awhole different story. Cobra Kai
doesn't really have a presence.
Ali's not in it, Ali's not init. So but we'll talk about this
one opening sequence becauseit's kind of the end of Cobra

(06:30:20):
Kai for a while.

Sal Rodriguez (06:30:21):
Yeah, cuz though the beginning of Karate Kid two
was supposed to be the ending ofthe Karate Kid.

Jason Connell (06:30:26):
And they did the right thing. They added one at
the right. Yes. But the

Sal Rodriguez (06:30:30):
original intention was there was some
sort of thing in the parkinglot.

Jason Connell (06:30:33):
So yeah, so I watched just to get fresh again,
because I have not seen karatekid too. And got maybe since the
80s. But so it's, you know,filmed years later, a few years
later, but we are now leavingthe auditorium. Yeah. And we're
in the parking lot and Daniel'shobbled but he's got his
clothes. You know his normalclothes on street clothes. He

(06:30:54):
says Mr. Miyagi, he has atrophy. No mother. No ally.
Yeah. So because Elizabeth shewas not in the sequel when or
what a mother wasn't in theseat. It was she may I don't
know, that didn't keep watchingbut she wasn't in this
particular sequence. Okay, maybethey didn't have her because
where's Ali if you have themother? Yeah. But from afar, you
see, since the crease, not happywith any of the Cobra Kai No,

(06:31:18):
and he's really getting vocalwith Johnny. Oh, he takes his
second place trophy andliterally destroys it. shreds it
slams it, and then puts achokehold Johnny in a chokehold
and that's it, Mr. Miyagi says

Sal Rodriguez (06:31:33):
what is child abuse at this moment, it's
horrible. And all the other

Jason Connell (06:31:37):
they're trying to come and some some of the Cobra
guys are trying to step in andbreak it up and he's like, No,
he's tough enough to knock themback. So Miyagi has to
intervene. And he comes over andasks him to release them and he
doesn't so then he grabs I thinkcreases one of his arms, puts it
behind his back and crease triesto punch at Mr. Miyagi, Miyagi

(06:32:01):
moves and he crushes a carwindow whoa crazy says hey pulls
his right one of his hands up,blood everywhere. circles back
tries to punch Mr. Miyagi again.
Again, Miyagi moves. Another carwindow shatters so Chris has two
super bloody knuckles Johnny'ssafe and I guess Mr. Miyagi
drops into his knee and has hishand ready for like a kill shot

(06:32:25):
could easily take him out youknow shot to the nose anywhere
vital if she didn't like thosebottles, totally does
unbelievable bottles. And heacts like he's gonna take him
out there's a shot of Daniellike on looking thinking what is
Miyagi doing is really gonnakill this guy. Sure. And he
stops trying to at the very, youknow, at a bridge of his nose,

(06:32:48):
and hawks like hey, pinches it'skind of it's a bit much less
humiliating It's humiliating butChris is like near passing out
for some reason falls down facedown. And all the other Cobra
Kai students are just kind oflike wow what this happened oh,

Sal Rodriguez (06:33:07):
what were they going to drop their black belts
at them?

Jason Connell (06:33:09):
Do they do that?

Sal Rodriguez (06:33:10):
Well that's what I read I read that they were
going to have it so that theyjust dropped they dumped their
black belts you know as limpbody crease goes down so

Jason Connell (06:33:19):
ease Yeah, I know that he's got to busted hands I
get that but he's morehumiliated but then for the
after the honk on the nose hedoes for a tough guy like that
wouldn't went down like that. Icould see him being bested and
saying Fine, you got me but hedoes falls down. I get passed
out. Yeah. So the Cobra guyshave now as far as I know.

(06:33:39):
That's the end of Cobra Kai isin the second Karate Kid. Yeah.
Now the third one I know thatmake a comeback. But that's
we'll save that for a rainy day.
But this is the end of like thecrease Cobra Kai Johnny, which
is why it's a great lead intothe show.

Sal Rodriguez (06:33:54):
So you're saying that a viewer can go straight
from karate kid into Cobra Kai.
Bypassing Karate Kid two andthree if they want to? Yes.
Well, it's kind of like, youknow, when I've asked people who
are diehard Star Wars fans,okay, let's say I've never seen
Star Wars. Let's say I've neverseen any of the movies. Where
should I start? The first StarWars, which is episode four.

Jason Connell (06:34:15):
Somehow first release more along the way. It
became a new hope. But it wasalways Star Wars. Okay. You know
what the first theatricalrelease the 70s? Yeah. And then
I would watch empire. Yeah. AndI would go ahead and watch
return to the Jedi. Too bad theEwoks are there and then I would
skip ahead to the newest ones.
The JJ Abrams won, skipping

Sal Rodriguez (06:34:34):
Clone Wars,

Jason Connell (06:34:35):
all that stuff.
Okay, so

Sal Rodriguez (06:34:36):
there you go. So it's not that much different
here. So

Jason Connell (06:34:39):
you're skipping to two I'm not even throwing
under the bus because two isactually a pretty good story.
They go to Okinawa. While andbut it's it just a different
story. He has a different loveand a different love interests
and Miyagi has a love interest.
So it's actually worth seeingbut for the sake of Cobra Kai
yeah, let's talk Cobra Kai.
Yeah, you can stay in the lane.
And watch this. There might be apoint we want to for special
episodes explore two and threebecause three there is Cobra Kai

(06:35:02):
presents. And there's even thewall with Hillary Swank. Yeah.
And it was never saw

Sal Rodriguez (06:35:07):
there was also an animated show for a while a
Karate Kid animated show in the80s like the late 80s

Jason Connell (06:35:13):
Was it Miyagi and Russo? I know,

Sal Rodriguez (06:35:16):
I think so. Yeah.
Let's just back up a little bit.
The Karate Kid name was borrowedfrom DC Comics, there was a DC
comic character named The KarateKid. You see at the end of the
Karate Kid movie, they think DCComics. So the makers of the
Karate Kid motion picture,approached DC Comics and asked
Can Can we use this name KarateKid for our motion picture? And

(06:35:38):
I guess I don't know what one ofthe they threatened them with
sweeping the leg.

Jason Connell (06:35:43):
Said clients already pulled off a Coca Cola.
Who else is happening? So they

Sal Rodriguez (06:35:48):
said yes. So at the end of the movie, they do
think DC Comics for the use ofthe name The Karate Kid. I did
not know that. Yeah. Moretrivia.

Jason Connell (06:35:55):
Yes, good trivia.
So that concludes Cobra Kai, howit came into being and really
creases Cobra Kai, and Johnny,we will pick up let's talk Cobra
Kai was season one, episode oneon our next episode.

Sal Rodriguez (06:36:08):
Oh, great. I'm really looking forward to that
because I have not seen CobraKai yet. Am I allowed to say
that? Yeah. Okay. I haven't seenCobra Kai yet. So this is going
to be new to me. I've reallyenjoyed the Karate Kid. I'm
looking forward to getting intoCobra Kai. I'm actually pretty
excited about

Jason Connell (06:36:22):
me too. And episodes will be much shorter.
This was this movie, which theydon't make movies like this
anymore. Almost a two hourruntime for a feel good movie.
Yeah, heartwarming movie.

Sal Rodriguez (06:36:32):
He wouldn't say that a movie like this, you
would think at about an hour anda half hour 40. Yeah, that's how

Jason Connell (06:36:36):
they do it now.
So our episodes 22 minutes, ourepisodes will be shorter and jam
packed. Because Cobra Kai isit's really well done, you're
gonna like it. Well, also,

Sal Rodriguez (06:36:45):
it's a different era. Now. If you go back to the
Karate Kid, there's no cellphones. There's no internet.
There's not Cobra Kai, I guesshas to have cell phones and
internet its present day. Right.

Jason Connell (06:36:55):
Here's your touch on some good points we'll be
talking about

Sal Rodriguez (06:36:58):
Yeah. Well, that's one of the things I would
ask filmmakers when we were atthe festival is I would ask them
I would say I noticed that themovies in present day yet you
don't have any cell phones. Andthey would make these decisions.
They were intentional to removecell phone to remove internet
from a movie even though it'spresent day because it changes
the dynamic. Oh yeah. You know,you can hop on your phone, dial

(06:37:19):
911 Whatever. Well, that changeseverything.

Jason Connell (06:37:22):
So I will say this I will give you since I
have seen Cobra Kai season one,season two, and I enjoyed it so
much is what led me to want tocreate this podcast so I can't
wait to revisit it and havenotes and we'll be ready to
roll. But I will tell you this.
Johnny Lawrence is a little bitof a Billy Madison type. If I
remember Billy Madison, when hegoes back to school, he's still

(06:37:43):
stuck in a different era. Yeah.
Johnny Lorenz is a little bit ofthat he's still stuck in the
80s. And you'll see that andthen you get to know OSI, the
Johnny you'd never got to see inthe movie. That'd be nice. And
then it's cut with where Danielsin life. You know what they've
done some good things and I'mexcited to explore together.

Sal Rodriguez (06:38:04):
I'm excited to explore Cobra Kai as well. And I
thank you for inviting me onthis journey with you.

Jason Connell (06:38:09):
My pleasure. All right, we'll see you next time.
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