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February 14, 2022 • 163 mins

Let's Talk - Movies
Episode 16: The Karate Kid Part II (1986) - Scene-By-Scene Breakdown

Jason Connell and Sal Rodriguez break down the classic movie and talk about visiting Okinawa, the end of Cobra Kai, and Peter Cetera's "Glory of Love".

* Daniel lives at the South Seas apartments, not the Seven Seas as mistakenly mentioned in the episode.

Synopsis: Daniel accompanies his mentor, Mr. Miyagi, to Miyagi's childhood home in Okinawa. Miyagi visits his dying father and confronts his old rival, while Daniel falls in love and inadvertently makes a new rival of his own.

Director: John G. Avildsen
Writer: Robert Mark Kamen
Cinematographer: James Crabe
Cast: Ralph Macchio, Pat Morita, Nobu McCarthy, Tamlyn Tomita, Danny Kamekona, Yuji Okumoto
Composer: Bill Conti

Original Episode: S01E17 & S01E16

Recorded: 02-11-22 & 04-11-20
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Jason Connell (04:30:42):
Welcome to Just curious media. This is let's
talk movies. And I'm JasonConnell, on the show. Today I'm
talking about the 1986 movie,The Karate Kid, Part Two. I
hinted at this last week when Iput out the Karate Kid, the
original 1984 Classic, when wedid our scene by scene
breakdown. Now, of course, thatwas way back when the first

(04:31:06):
thing we ever recorded for justcurious media. So it was very
proud to share that. And this ispart two, it's not as strong as
the Karate Kid, but it's verygood, has a lot of heart, some
super touching scenes, Mr.
Miyagi and Daniel son, and it'salso not trying to recreate the
first movie, which I reallyappreciate they go to Okinawa,

(04:31:28):
so it's a different tale. Somany times sequels are just a
watered down version of theoriginal. And this is not that
now, credit card, part three.
It's nowhere near as strong aspart two. However, I am going to
release it as well. Because ifyou're a fan of Cobra Kai, you

(04:31:51):
need to see all three, they pullthings out of all of them. And
when I started, let's talk CobraKai. I hadn't seen the credit
card part three in so long. AndI was like, no, no, no, I just
watched the first two and you'regood to go. And then I got into
some scenes where they'recalling in characters from the
third movie, and I thought, Oh,I got to see this. So it's worth

(04:32:11):
your time. But we'll we'll dothat next week. For right here.
And now. We're focusing on thesequel. Now this particular
recording was the firstrecording just curious media did
post pandemic. So Sal Rodriguez,my co host and I were not in
studio. We went to this remoterecording. And we recorded

(04:32:34):
locally, but we could see eachother virtually and, and we have
not seen each other but instudio sense, which is crazy,
but we talk all the time. Andthis recording happened on April
11th 2020. And it also sparkedlet's talk movies. This podcast.
We're kind of on a hiatus. Butlet's talk Cobra Kai, because we

(04:32:56):
fulfilled in season one, seasontwo, we did the credit kid and
then I did karate kid part two.
And then we were just waitingfor season three of Cobra Kai to
come out. However, due toNetflix getting involved and
making the show a mega hit, westarted doing special episodes.
And we've done so many of thoseweekly show now even when
there's not a new episode todissect. But that said, let's

(04:33:19):
talk movies was born. And I'msuper excited to bring these
older episodes from let's talkCobra Kai over to this platform
and share them there. Now thefirst episode of Let's Talk
movies dropped on April 20 2020.
So just nine days after werecorded the credit card part

(04:33:42):
two. So that's really cool. I'mjust glad that could happen. I
didn't want to sit around and donothing. It was fun to launch
this new show. And now this showis evolving. And there's a lot
more things to come there's moreinterviews there's going to be
more reviews there's going to bemore scene by scene breakdowns
of classic movies. But yeah, forhere now I hope you guys enjoy

(04:34:04):
this. Again, you're going tohear me reference in the movie
if you listen last week. I callDaniel Russo's apartment the
seven seas apartment it'sactually the South Seas
apartment. By the third movie Igot it right but I had just
pulled a Mandela Effect is Sallikes to say and remembered it
in a different way. I'veactually been to the South Seas,

(04:34:25):
but it was an older Eurythmicssong sweet dreams are made of
this to snuck in my head and mycrawl. And I like to call it the
seven seas for a little while. Ialso didn't make any edits to
the scene by scene breakdown, Ileft the original intro and
outro. You know, it just kind oftimestamps things we've evolved.
And it's kind of fun just to letit breathe and let it play as it

(04:34:47):
was. Beyond that, I have to say,anyone enjoying this viewing
this on YouTube Live, you'regoing to have to download the
audio podcast version to hear itin its entirety. It's worth your
time, please do so. So withoutfurther ado, please enjoy the
Karate Kid part two. Welcome toJust curious media. This is

(04:35:11):
let's talk Cobra Kai. I'm JasonConnell.

Sal Rodriguez (04:35:14):
And I'm Sal Rodriguez.

Jason Connell (04:35:16):
All right, Sal.
Here we are. The Karate Kid.
Part Two special edition.

Sal Rodriguez (04:35:23):
I never thought we'd make it this far.

Jason Connell (04:35:26):
I know right?

Sal Rodriguez (04:35:27):
I mean, considering what's going on. I
mean, we're not even in the samelocation. This is a first.

Jason Connell (04:35:32):
This is a first this is the first time that you
and I have not been side by sideat the studio because we are
practicing social distance.
Seen, and we're trying thisvirtually. And we'll see how it
goes.

Sal Rodriguez (04:35:47):
Yeah. And now I know why we're so into the 80s.
Because the 2020s suck.

Jason Connell (04:35:52):
Especially March.
March had like 90 days in it, itfelt like but hey, nothing like
karate kid to lift your spirits,I should say,

Sal Rodriguez (04:36:02):
Yeah, big time.
Excited to be here. It's beentoo long. Let's rock and roll.
All right.

Jason Connell (04:36:07):
So what I've read, Sal is that there was
debate over to make the sequelabout the revenge of Cobra Kai,
or Mr. Miyagi story andtravelled back to his home
country. Obviously, the latterone out. And I think it was a
wise decision. We're not rushingback into Cobra Kai territory,

(04:36:28):
although I would have lovedthat. I think it was a really
nice way to take this to thenext level. And get to know Mr.
Miyagi, his backstory. And Ithink you probably agree.

Sal Rodriguez (04:36:38):
Yeah, I definitely agree. Because I
don't think that you know, creesGod love him. God loves them.
He's not the primary stars. Theprimary stars are Danielson and
Mr. Miyagi. So I wanted to goalong with them a little more,
before I go back around to thehigh jinks of crease. And Terry

(04:36:59):
silver, which you see in credit,get three.

Jason Connell (04:37:01):
Exactly. And so reading more about some of the
trivia behind the scenes things.
It looks like they went intoproduction of the sequel, like
10 days after the release of theoriginal, which is kind of
crazy.

Sal Rodriguez (04:37:18):
And risky, because the franchise hasn't had
time to prove itself. So that'sdefinitely a gamble.

Jason Connell (04:37:22):
Yeah, I guess they had early numbers. So they
just knew 10 days in that thisthing, you know, they had a hit
on their hands. But there wassomething there. And obviously,
I don't think the cast wasoverly expensive. You know, it
wasn't like they had all thesebig names. So they were able to
lock everyone up, except for theCobra Kai students. They didn't

(04:37:42):
have them, they had to bring insome new people. But we did lose
one character as well, whichwe'll get into later. But
Elizabeth shoe was not part ofthe sequel, which I know saddens
me a great deal.

Sal Rodriguez (04:37:55):
Well, that was really her choice. What her
choice, right? Wasn't she goingto school to Harvard at the
time.

Jason Connell (04:38:00):
So it was her choice to a degree, what I had
read was that they were goingto, they're gonna have some
scenes with her in the beginningof the film. And then it was
just too complicated. And shehad agreed to this, but it was
just something they couldn't getworked out. So they scrapped it.
So she was going to be a smallpart. And they just kind of

(04:38:21):
weren't able to do that. So thatsaid, Sell Karate Kid was the
only appearance and all of thisin Cobra Kai and all the sequels
of the Karate Kid that Elizabethshoe is in? Well,

Sal Rodriguez (04:38:35):
there's speculation about her appearance
in season three. We'll see. Idon't think anybody knows. I
know. You haven't told me anyspoilers regarding season three
of Cobra Kai. I haven't heardanything or read anything, you
know, back toward the end ofseason two, or when you and I
were we're recording Season Twoof Let's Talk Cobra Kai. There
was speculation about ElizabethShue returning in season three

(04:38:55):
of Cobra Kai but I have seen noconfirmations and no evidence of
of that being the case.

Jason Connell (04:39:00):
Well, and I know nothing either. I was just about
to say it's just about time forher to come back. I'll be at
season three or another seasonour if there's a Karate Kid,
Cobra Kai movie reboot, youknow, taking where the show has
now taken things and coming outand making a feature length
movie. Hey, I don't know. But Iam hopeful. I'll just put it

(04:39:23):
that way.

Sal Rodriguez (04:39:23):
Well, if you look at the way this movie starts,
which we'll get into in asecond, if you look at the way
it starts, I would have no careto see Elizabeth shoes character
again. I would have no care tosee Ali again after she dumped
our private Mary. Yeah, mainactor. So we're gonna get into
that again. But I would have nocare to it was only because of
what has occurred on Cobra Kaiseason two, or I would have any

(04:39:46):
care to see

Jason Connell (04:39:48):
Ali return. Yeah, they kind of throw her under the
bus. But what we'll get intothat.

Sal Rodriguez (04:39:52):
Can I just mention a couple things here.
Just a couple things like thatare interesting. Just to bring
us up to speed. Noriyuki PatMerida is 54 at the filming of
this movie, rough macho 25 atthe filming. If you look at
karate kid two on IMDb, thereare 80 photographs associated
with it. Number 74. So again,you gotta go in there shows
George Bush. That's not GeorgeW. The son but the original

(04:40:15):
George Bush. Yeah, senior GeorgeBush, Barbara Bush, along with
Pat Morita and rough module onthe set. A presidential visit to
the set. I did not know aboutthis.

Jason Connell (04:40:25):
Wow. That's pretty impressive. I have not
seen that I couldn't make itpast 40. So you trudged on to 74
That's really cool. I'll have tolook at that photo. Maybe I'll
have to post it on our socialmedia.

Sal Rodriguez (04:40:37):
Check that out.
And also this movie is set inOkinawa, but it's actually
filmed in Oh Oahu, Hawaii.

Jason Connell (04:40:43):
That's right. So how did you feel about that?
Because I know that you havetraveled to Okinawa,

Sal Rodriguez (04:40:48):
I have traveled to Okinawa. I'll get into that a
little more specifically as wego along. But the reason that
they chose Hawaii is because ait's the United States so makes
things a little bit easier withfilming. But B it has a similar
climate see that a lot. What alot of people don't know when I
learned this, I believe me, Ilearned this when I went to
Japan, when you go to themainland of Japan, Tokyo, etc.

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And then you work your way downto Okinawa. It's different. It's
a different feel. It's adifferent vibe. It's more of a
Polynesian feel. It's more of aHawaii type feel. People are
even a little bit darker. It's adifferent vibe in Okinawa than
it is in Japan. I loved it justas much, but definitely more of
an island vibe on Okinawa thanin mainland Japan.

Jason Connell (04:41:31):
Okay. Well, there you have it. So besides Hawaii,
the rest of the movie was filmedat the Warner Brothers Burbank
studios lot, if you will, that Ididn't know. Yeah, it's true.
This is according to IMDb. Andthere were even some scenes
filmed at Mr. Miyagi, his houseover in Canoga Park, which has

(04:41:51):
since unfortunately, as youalready no has been demolished.
Sad to say, but my opinion thatplace should have been a shrine
or a museum for Karate Kidlovers for years to come. But
they have recreated it verynicely. It looks like in
Georgia, where they shoot CobraKai,

Sal Rodriguez (04:42:10):
but wait, did they tear that house down?
Before Cobra Kai?

Jason Connell (04:42:15):
Oh, yes, yes, it's been taught for many years.

Sal Rodriguez (04:42:18):
Okay, so if it has stuck around long enough to
at least meet the advent ofCobra Kai, and maybe, yeah,
maybe yeah.

Jason Connell (04:42:27):
So to stay on point and true to form, I will
give the ratings so on IMDb,this movie gets a 6.0. And on
Rotten Tomatoes, it gets a 42%.
Now that's just very high,right? Not crazy high. But just
to give you some context, thisis how the original does on
those platforms. The Karate Kid7.2 on IMDb, and 88% on Rotten

(04:42:49):
Tomatoes. So the original ismore loved, and rightfully so I
think it's a superior film. Andif it wasn't for that film, you
wouldn't even have this sequel,or all the subsequent ones are
even Cobra Kai the show. So it'shard to compare with the

(04:43:11):
original. But this was thesecond installment. And that's
what we're focused on.

Sal Rodriguez (04:43:17):
Are you saying that you love Karate Kid?
Original Motion Picture overkarate kid too, just because of
the Heritage now with theoriginal, or because you
actually independently thinkit's a better film?

Jason Connell (04:43:31):
Oh, it's a much better film. The story is more
complete. Listen, I won't getinto karate get to. And we're
about to and we kind of alreadyare. But yeah, I have a lot less
eye rolls and the Karate Kid.
Okay, not to put the sequeldown. But at the box office,
this movie made at least the USgross. And I don't know when
this was cut off. But it made$115 million. So it made more

(04:43:53):
than the original. But that wascoming. You know, it only came
out what a couple of years afterthe original. All the hype was
still there. And so it didn'tmake more because it's a better
film. It made more because therewas demand and the timing. And
the industry was very differentback then.

Sal Rodriguez (04:44:14):
It was in the wake of the original. So the
timing was good.

Jason Connell (04:44:17):
Yeah, they waited a decade or you know, sometimes
sequels take a long time to comeout. But yeah, that's a good way
of putting it. It was in thewake of. And so I don't
attribute that to quality. Butanyway, so

Sal Rodriguez (04:44:30):
it sounds like you're bashing movie before we
even started.

Jason Connell (04:44:33):
I think quality wise, yeah, this is absolutely
an inferior picture. But it'sstill a pretty good movie. I
think at one point in time youeven said, Could this have been
a movie at least the Plot Thestory if it wasn't related to
the Karate Kid? And I thoughtthat was an interesting
question.

Sal Rodriguez (04:44:50):
Outside of the Karate Kid universe. I believe
this movie could stand alone. Ifyou took away their names just
made it a different universe. Ithink it would have been
absolutely just as great.

Jason Connell (04:44:59):
Yeah, I agree with you. I think it would have
found an audience it would havedone well, because there was a
lot of martial arts moviescoming out in the 80s. And
that's an interesting story.
Disciple follows his master backto the homeland. And there's a
story Absolutely, it could have.
Well, he

Sal Rodriguez (04:45:16):
doesn't he doesn't just again, we're gonna
get into this as soon as we getinto the movie, but he doesn't
just follow him. He literally isa very supportive friend at that
actor. Yeah, so we'll get intothat. We're gonna.

Jason Connell (04:45:28):
So who else came back for the sequel? Well, you
had Jerry Weintraub stillproducing probably the person
that said, Hey, let's get intoproduction on the sequel.
Immediately. We got ourselves awinner here. You had John
Adelson, the very talenteddirector Who did karate kid 123.
He also did the original Rocky,which one best picture. And he

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came back and in Rocky five,they had Robert Mark came in the
writer who created all thecharacters and grew up in
martial arts. He really doesn'tget enough praise. I would say
you had Bill Conti come back asthe composer. And of course, you
had Pat right and Ralph Macho.
So they had, you know, the coreteam coming back. And what you
see a lot of times in sequels isyou're missing some of that you

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don't have the same director,you don't have the same star or
whatever. But that's what Ithink help this movie capture
some magic.

Sal Rodriguez (04:46:21):
I like when the crew can come back. It's, it's
almost like a band, like, hey,let's get the band back
together, you know, and then youyou create a new old sound that
the listener is familiar with,or the viewer is familiar with.
And it's got a real nice flow toit. For the fan. It flows easier
than if it's just a whole newgroup.

Jason Connell (04:46:41):
I totally agree.
It is like getting the band backtogether. And here we go. So
this movie starts with thisopening montage. It's a fly
catching scene crane technique,the Medal of Honor, Halloween
night, Cobra, Kai dojo, allleading up to the all Valley
karate championship.

Sal Rodriguez (04:47:03):
I liked it, it brings, it brings the new viewer
up to speed. I like that.

Jason Connell (04:47:07):
It is it's kind of like watching a season finale
of a show. And then they giveyou all what you've taken in the
first five seasons. But I don'tever remember this in a movie.
And I watched a lot of moviesfrom the 70s and 80s. But had
you seen this done before thiskind of five minute montage to

(04:47:28):
get things started?

Sal Rodriguez (04:47:29):
I didn't realize it at the time, but I don't
think I have seen that. WhereYeah, the sequel. Does this
rehash in the beginning? No, Idon't think I've seen that in
any other sequel. No.

Jason Connell (04:47:38):
Especially for a movie, as you said earlier, that
was in the wake of the original.
So I wouldn't say that peoplewere forgetting it did disappear
for a decade.

Sal Rodriguez (04:47:48):
Yeah, not not a lot of time had elapsed. You can
imagine the people were sittingin the theater like the first
five minutes like, yeah, weknow. We know. Yeah. Yeah,
exactly. Been there. We've beenthere.

Jason Connell (04:47:59):
I saw Godfather two. I don't remember a quick
like, well, here's what happenedin the first one. Michael became
it didn't do that. However, as Isay this aloud, you know what
popped in my mind. I think Rockytwo starts with the fight
sequence from Rocky one.

Sal Rodriguez (04:48:16):
I know. You're writing and again, there we go.
Adelson? Yes. Well, he

Jason Connell (04:48:20):
didn't make he didn't direct to that was still
alone. But still, we're inAppletons. You know, he crafted
the first one the masterpiece.
So I think those movies did it.
But it was all about the fightthat ended the movie prior. This
gave us a whole montage. Butanyway, hey, it was cool. It was
nice to see. You and I are up onour stuff because of the let's

(04:48:42):
talk Cobra Kai show. But if youare someone revisiting the
Karate Kid to like on Netflix,or Hulu or Amazon, some random
viewer, the montage will be verynice for them even today. So
there it was. And as soon as weget caught up in real time, the
first scene that is brand new tothe audience is a shower sing,

(04:49:04):
which just cracks me up. It's aninteresting choice. Yeah,
because I've been in thosetournaments. And I never
showered afterwards. We justwent home with our GI and
hopefully with some hardware.
And I like how Mr. Miyagi he'sin there with Daniel. Which is,
which is pretty funny.

Sal Rodriguez (04:49:23):
Well, wait to be clear. Hang on. Hang on. He's
not in there. He's waitingoutside the showers while
Daniels taking the room. lockerroom. Yeah, he's in the locker
room with his back to the wallof the showers chatting with
Daniel as Daniel is in theshower with all these other guys
who are those other guys? Werethose other competitors? I guess
so. Was was entirely possiblethat Johnny Lawrence was in that

(04:49:46):
shower along with Daniel Russo.

Jason Connell (04:49:49):
Yeah, and crease who also was an ag. So he
showers was in the shower withthey probably kept the Cobra car
off to the side although Johnnyhad just given Daniel the
trophy. So maybe there's lessbad blood now. But the only
thing that could have made thismore funny or strange is if
Miyagi was in the stall next tohim. And they're soaping up

(04:50:14):
nothing. You know, nothing belowboard of course, but there's
soaping up and just talking andthat would have been like what
we already jumped the shark andwe're like one scene and the
movie. So we come out of theshower scene. And as you and I
know, we do not see Ali orDaniel's mother this entire
film. So Miyagi immediately getsdown away and says, Ali and

(04:50:35):
Mother wait for us atrestaurant. Oh, Daniels. Yeah,
sure. And that's it. That's it.
Boom. Like they're not we're notgonna see him right then.
Because then I go to therestaurant, and we never see
them. But I know it's kind offunny.

Sal Rodriguez (04:50:47):
I completely forgot about that line. But
yeah, so Daniel is carrying hischampionship trophy, limping
along next to Miyagi walking outof the auditorium. They stop and
chat crease exits the building.
Starts man handling people,which I think is hilarious. He
starts man handling people inparticularly actor Eddie Smith,

(04:51:08):
who recites the line. Hey, man,what you're doing to a brother,
which I love. That's why I'mreally short caught on. I love
that. I should have been on Tshirts. So Chris walks between
Miyagi, Daniel the tournamentannouncer played by Bruce
Monmouth. Remember that name?
Bruce. Melmoth. We're gonna berevisiting that again.

Jason Connell (04:51:31):
Well, it real quick on Bruce, the announcer I
got contacts. I love what hesays. He says paper we're going
to be talking about that lastkick for years to come. And,
Sal.

Sal Rodriguez (04:51:42):
Talk about a foreshadow. Yeah.

Jason Connell (04:51:44):
He nailed it.
Yeah, they're gonna build aseries around that kick.
Amazing.

Sal Rodriguez (04:51:50):
He didn't know that he was predicting Cobra
Kai. And then he breaks throughthe announcer and referee Patty
Johnson, who is also the fightchoreographer for the movies.
Right? He shoves them aside. AndI wonder at that moment, I
actually pause and wonder atthat moment, when he pushes
aside, Bruce and Pat, theannouncer in referee is that

(04:52:10):
when he gets his lifetime ban,is that the very moment right
there? I bet no,

Jason Connell (04:52:16):
I think it happened. About two and a half
minutes later. Oh, there werealmost

Sal Rodriguez (04:52:22):
we'll get to that. Okay. How about a habit at
this moment when Chris keepswalking on? And Daniel says, Why
does he act like that? And thenwe hear a voice off camera says
that guy just doesn't know whatkarate is all about. Was that
Johnson or was that Monmouth?
Was it announcer was that thereferee? I don't know. Because
you don't see. I'm curious what?
So Chris heads over to thestudents. And then right at that

(04:52:43):
moment, kids run right up,asking Daniel for an autograph.
And these kids are from receita.
Two C's are local kids. Danielsigns the autographs for them.
One kid is back with to thecamera the whole time. I felt
bad for them. I would haveredirected them if our adults
and I wouldn't say let's see alittle face there. Now one thing
I want to mention a littletrivia here, it could be
suspect. These kids are GarthJohnson and Brett Johnson. are

(04:53:05):
the sons of Pat E. Johnson. It'sthe same scene practically.

Jason Connell (04:53:12):
Why not? And

Sal Rodriguez (04:53:13):
if these are relation again, will we ever
remember Bruce Melmoth. Sothere's a lot of in the family
going on here. So I wonder ifthose were kids of choreographer
and referee Patty Johnson.

Jason Connell (04:53:24):
Yeah, could be a good spot there. We'll find out.
So what this is leading to andwe've talked about this on the
Karate Kid special episode, aswell as I'm sure episodes of
Let's Talk Cobra Kai is whereyou reflect on the show. But
what is coming was supposed tobe the end of the Karate Kid.

(04:53:45):
And the scene is where crease ishaving a confrontation with his
students, because he's so madabout losing. And it basically
attacks Johnny. So this scenewas going to end the movie and
Sal, thank goodness, they didnot do that. And they saved it.

(04:54:05):
And they said, hey, if we everdo a sequel, we'll start with
this as opposed to any othermovie. Because the first movie
and so beautifully with the youknow, he gets the trophy and
there's the shot of Miyagi, andthen we're out. I couldn't
imagine having one more beat.
Can you know it feels like afourth act or something. So
could I

Sal Rodriguez (04:54:24):
know? I like when a movie ends on a happy note. I
really do. I like to walk out ofthe theater. A little a little
happier. I don't like walkingout of a theater all bummed out.
Yeah. Even if the movie wasgood, you know? So yeah, I like
the choice that they made. Iliked it. They didn't end the
original movie with crease younothing. You lost your lose. I'm

(04:54:45):
so happy that they didn't dothat.

Jason Connell (04:54:47):
And to be clear, they didn't shoot it. They just
had written it and practicerehearsed it, I should say, but
they didn't shoot it. So itwasn't that close to happening.
So enough about the setup. Let'stalk about the scene.

Sal Rodriguez (04:55:00):
Okay, so can I can I gotta mention one thing I
found so interesting. Yeah, youand I both enjoy looking at all
the actors in the scene,including the extras and one
thing I found it very funny wascreases up against the car with
Johnny. There's an extra on theother side of the car on the
driver's side who has his backto the camera the whole time.
There's a fight going on behindyou. And you don't have to turn

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around once. That was Dutch. No,no, it was on the other side of
the car was when he was wearinga hat.

Jason Connell (04:55:26):
Well, there was two guys on their side of the
car and one was the guy fromhead of the class. He was one of
the Cobra guys we've talkedabout this. He was in the judge
no and Duchess next to him. So Iwent back and as we prepared for
this episode, I also wasnoticing those Extra is having
made a movie a documentary aboutextras called strictly
background. I always look at thebackground players and think

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What's that guy doing? And whenI went back and interviewed
again, it appeared to be Dutchbecause Dutch is in the sequel
and that was him. Wow.

Sal Rodriguez (04:55:58):
Okay, so why didn't you have them turn around
at the ruckus that was takingplace? I just found that
interesting.

Jason Connell (04:56:03):
He was too cool for school. He is Steve McQueen
son. So you know, Dutchess gothe does his own thing. So what's
going on in the scene, Sal? As Ialready said, he comes over and
starts to kind of go off on thestudents but maybe just talk us
through what's exactlyhappening.

Sal Rodriguez (04:56:18):
Crease borates Johnny for a second place loss,
calls him a loser. Johnny reactsgoes no, you're a loser man.
Chris grabs the trophy breaks ittosses it aside and gets Johnny
Lawrence in a chokehold otherguys come in he elbows one guy.
I don't know which guy was had agood elbow on the left. And
another guy shows up. I forgotwhich guys, they were another

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guy shows up Chris, like don'tremember that line. Don't.

Jason Connell (04:56:44):
I think it was like Tommy and Bobby. Those guys
were close by but anyway, yeah,it's not looking good.

Sal Rodriguez (04:56:50):
Miyagi approaches. Let him go. And then
Chris Beck has another student.
And then this thing I foundinteresting, because I'd never
really noticed this before. Ireally listened intently. So
Chris says, beat it slope areyour next. Now, I never knew
about this word slope, which Isaid what? Okay, so I looked it
up slope, a derogatory term orslur used for the purpose of

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describing a Vietnamese or Asianperson describing the slope of
their eyes. Oh, my gosh, I neverknew it. So it's, you know, it's
one of these moments where like,it's one thing to be an asshole.
But now you're a racist asshole.

Jason Connell (04:57:30):
He's the worst.
So this leads to a showdownbetween crease and Miyagi. And
this is one of the knocks I havein this film, although I do like
the film. But I would have likedto see a you know, like a really
good fight. These are guys areboth very skilled, they have
different styles. They cantussle for a minute or two. But

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that's not what happens.

Sal Rodriguez (04:57:56):
If you're talking about the fight sequences that
we all know and love. This wouldprobably be if you visit all the
fight sequences that we all knowand love throughout cinematic
history, this is probably notone of them. It was
disappointing. Chris did notshow any skills. I mean, I could
have done as well against Miyagias creased it.

Jason Connell (04:58:16):
So for anyone who's unaware of what really
goes down, so let's pick it upwhere we left off. So Chris
still has Johnny and achokehold. And Miyagi comes
towards him, that he hits onestudent. And so Sal, then what
happens,

Sal Rodriguez (04:58:30):
Miyagi steps in and uses a maneuver to get
crease to release Johnny. So heforces the release of Johnny by
crease through a manipulationfor sure.

Jason Connell (04:58:41):
And super upset and full of rage. He already
lost in the tournament. He'salready mad and throwing all of
his students under the bus. Andhere's the protagonist, it's
caused this him and Daniel Mr.
Miyagi. And so he charges himout of rage. And what happens?

Sal Rodriguez (04:59:02):
While you see the difference, you talk about the
difference in styles, but justin this moment, the difference
in emotion. So Greece is full ofrage and anger, lost control.
Miyagi is so calm, so very calm,crease goes in to punch him.
Miyagi moves right out of theway, turns around, goes into
punch him, he moves out of theway, again, effortlessly. And

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thus, crease has to bloodiedfists from hitting two car
windows.

Jason Connell (04:59:31):
And he's kind of in shock that he's done it. He
looks at his bloody knuckles,and he's in shock. What's
occurred?

Sal Rodriguez (04:59:37):
You would call this one of Chris's low light
moments?

Jason Connell (04:59:41):
Yeah, maybe he's got a real problem with blood,
because he became kind of a web.

Sal Rodriguez (04:59:46):
He was in Vietnam. Right?

Jason Connell (04:59:48):
I know. I know.
I'm telling you this. So hesays,

Sal Rodriguez (04:59:52):
okay, so that picture could have been doctored
the one in the dojo of him. Imean, it looked more like a
theatrical headshot. But

Jason Connell (04:59:59):
can you trust anything out of his mouth,
knowing what you know now aboutcrease? I mean, seriously, come
on.

Sal Rodriguez (05:00:04):
You know what, now that you mentioned it, it's
starting to become clear. It'sentirely possible that Chris was
never in the military at all.
And that picture was fakehanging up in the studio.

Jason Connell (05:00:14):
Yeah, I don't I don't believe him. He's done
anything. Well, except for he'srun Cobra Kai, and he's made
some real tough bullies. Butanyway, so creases, distraught,
he can't believe his buddyknuckles. And this leads to the
end of this, if you want to callit a fight sequence. And so go
ahead, tell us what happens.

Sal Rodriguez (05:00:35):
So I know you and I talked about this once before,
where you thought maybe creasefainted, but it was just sort of
I think an emotional andphysical collapse where he just
kind of caves into himself.
Yeah, and he just falls intothis heap before he falls into
the heap. Miyagi is about togive him the death blow. You
think this is gonna be it forcrease creases on his knees on
the ground, about to be finishedby Miyagi. Miyagi has his hand

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raised in a karate chop positionready to give the death blow.

Jason Connell (05:01:05):
Miyagi is in that pose when he knocked the bottles
off of his truck? Oh, yes, knockthe caps off. That was one of
the only issues I had with theoriginal Karate Kid. I think
they were held down to believethat they could have been, he
could have knocked the tops offoff loose bottles on a truck and
far fetched, but he had thatsame strike. So he was going to
do that to really could havekilled crease if he wanted to.

Sal Rodriguez (05:01:27):
He could have that's why I say could have
delivered the death blow. But hedidn't. Instead of delivering
the death blow, or at least ablow to give the final
humiliation to crease in hismoment of existing humiliation,
hey, might as well go a stepfurther. Instead, Miyagi comes
in close, grabs his nose, andgoes honk. I mean, it is

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humiliating. But it's not beatento a pulp humiliating.

Jason Connell (05:01:52):
That's when he falls into himself creased and

Sal Rodriguez (05:01:56):
that's when he kind of just caves and crumbles
into himself and falls into aheap on the ground. Miyagi and
Daniel walk away. And at thismoment is where Daniel says, and
I believe this littleinteraction here, I think sums
up I think the entire movie. Imean, this is the summarization,
I feel is where Daniel says, Youcould have killed him, couldn't
you? And Miyagi says, I, well,then why didn't you then and

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Miyagi says, because Daniel son,for person with no forgiveness
in heart living even worsepunishment than deaf. Mine,
there you go. And that leads uson to the rest. By the way, I
always want to mention the carthat they are getting into is
the truck is a 1941 Chevroletlight delivery, beautiful truck.

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Beautiful truck.

Jason Connell (05:02:42):
So that is the end of Cobra Kai crease Johnny,
the whole bunch for this entirefilm. There's no more mention of
them. You don't see themanymore. We don't know what's
going on with them. We're off ona different adventure. And so
now the text comes on screen sixmonths later. And we come in on

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Miyagi, who is of all thingstrying to catch the fly with a
chopstick. And this time, Sal,unlike the previous film, he
does it.

Sal Rodriguez (05:03:19):
Yeah. And I really liked that he doesn't
make a fuss over it. He doesn'tPat himself on the back. He's
not so excited about doing it.
He does it. He gives a littlegrin. And then he moves on.

Jason Connell (05:03:30):
And Karate Kid folklore. What does that say
about someone when they're ableto catch a fly and chopsticks.

Sal Rodriguez (05:03:37):
Men who catch fly with chopstick accomplish
anything? So he's got that goingfor him? Well, that's also a
foreshadow than to Yeah,

Jason Connell (05:03:45):
of course. And you know, Daniels had that going
for him for a while. So it's nota beat later that Daniel
arrives. And this whole filmgoes on a different course. And
so he shows up, it's post prom.
The car's been crashed Sal, goahead and tell us what type of
car that is, again,

Sal Rodriguez (05:04:07):
Daniel arrives in the 1948, Ford Super Deluxe,
which again, for the newlistener, is the same car used
in Greece that is greasedlightning.

Jason Connell (05:04:18):
So it's crashed, which really brings a tear to
all of our eyes. And he comes inand he's blaming Ali, who
wrecked it. I mean, you got thebumper hanging off the steam
coming out of it. He's evengoing on to say that Ali's now
fallen in love with somefootball player from UCLA. And
Miyagi. He's kind of listeningand he goes out there to start

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to repair the car immediatelybecause that's what Miyagi does.
And then Daniel is just on this,rant it and he goes on about my
mom's taking another job. Andthis time, it's in Fresno, we
leave tomorrow. And it's just alot going on. I mean, they came
out to like zero to 60 with allthis exposition, which is pretty
funny, but it does get the moviemoving. I guess out I guess

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that's the point.

Sal Rodriguez (05:05:05):
One thing I noticed interesting is when
Daniel arrives, there's musicplaying and then he shuts off
the car. The music stops, whichlets the viewer know that the
music is actually coming fromthe car and not part of the
soundtrack necessarily. So thatcar 1948 Ford had a stereo in it
or I wonder if that stereo wasadded later. I just found that
interesting.

Jason Connell (05:05:23):
Yeah, I think Miyagi probably would drop that
in there. For him. He's a kidprobably had a cassette player
you think? Yeah, probablycassette player. And I also
liked Daniels blue tux, whichwas very reminiscent of Dumb and
Dumber, which is pretty funny.
So Miyagi is just you know,helping out kind of listening
him, but he's got one way tohelp Daniel kind of clear his

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head. He's got some more workfor him to do on the old Miyagi
estate. And what's he have himdo Sal?

Sal Rodriguez (05:05:53):
Well, he takes them out back, and he has him
start hitting nails. So this isone of those moments where I'm
thinking, Okay, how does hittingnails to this attachment to the
house to build a new room? Howdoes this translate to a karate
move? I mean, this is not wax onwax off. This is not sand the
floor. This is not, you know,paint up, paint down. How is

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this going to translate to akarate move? That's what I want
to see. So Daniel startshammering these nails finally
gets a little frustrated, sayshe's all out of focus. Mr.
Miyagi shows him a breathingtechnique to help bring his life
and feelings back into focus. Sothen, Daniel goes back to
hitting the nails, and he startsto get the hang of it starts to

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feel pretty good. And then oneor two walks. Oh, God,

Jason Connell (05:06:40):
I wanted to kind of interject there. But

Sal Rodriguez (05:06:41):
okay, well, it's actually two. It's like, dude,
do boom, it was actually likethree hits to get it in. The
first two are like setup hits.
Then the third was to get it allthe way. Yes, to

Jason Connell (05:06:51):
hit it with one strike. I agree. You go tap
towards holds on its own, andthen it's to focus and hit it on
the head and drive one through.
So I think it's about focus. Ithink it's about hitting your
spot. And it also kind ofreminded me of Bruce Lee's one
inch punch. It's like a lot ofpower and you're barely moving.
You're moving like an inch witha hammer in your hand. So your

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hand is, you know, like a fistif you will, but that's where it
kind of reminded me of, but itwas a cool technique, but that's
as far as we get with it. It'snot like Miyagi sets Daniel up
and then disappears for the dayand goes fishing. We don't kind
of go back and try it on thatwater like we did in the
original. And the next thing wesee Daniel has made a beautiful
Rosewood metal display. For Mr.

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Miyagi. He's Medal of Honor.

Sal Rodriguez (05:07:40):
Yeah, he makes a nice gift for him displaying the
Medal of Honor because Danielsproud of it, for Mr. Miyagi
wants him to display it. And Mr.
Miyagi, though that's not reallyhis style. He says, Well, why
should I show it off? For whatit doesn't really occur to Mr.
Miyagi, to show off his medal ofhonor,

Jason Connell (05:07:58):
which is very Miyagi esque. He doesn't care
about trophies, medals, or evenbelts. As we recall, when Daniel
asked him what belt he was, andkarate, and he said, What'd he
say JC Penney's?

Sal Rodriguez (05:08:11):
Is that what he said? Was that from the first
one? I don't remember that.
Yeah, as the original. But if

Jason Connell (05:08:15):
Miyagi didn't care at all about this metal, in
my opinion, it would have beenat the Goodwill a long time ago.
So he has some sort ofattachment to it, but he doesn't
want to be boastful. He didn'tcare about putting it on the
wall, but he's touched. Youknow, it's a nice thing that
Daniel did for him. And soMiyagi out of nowhere, gets
Daniel out of having to move toFresno.

Sal Rodriguez (05:08:38):
Yeah, what we learned is that this attachment
to the house, this new room thatDaniel was hitting nails into is
a new guest room. And Miyagisays it's for a refugee. And
Daniel says a refugee fromwhere, Miyagi says, Fresno,
which I thought was really cute.
That was

Jason Connell (05:08:56):
a clever way of saying that you can stay here.
Now, here comes the mailcarrier, who doesn't know
Miyagi, his name after 40 years?

Sal Rodriguez (05:09:05):
No. Well, we don't know how new this guy was.
But he says, guy, Mr. Miyagi.
And then Daniel, I love howDaniel like, jumps to his
defense and corrects him. It'sMiyagi. And the postman played
by will hunt. I do think thisscene is funny. I wanted to
mention that because Oh, it'sgreat. Postman starts going on
about how he goes, Oh, thissomeplace you have here? Can I
bring my wife by to have a lookat it? Like I just thought, what

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was the point of thisinteraction, but I guess it
gives time for Miyagi, to signthe letter to start reading the
letter, as the postman is goingon about how nice the places,
the postman says, maybe someother time, and then he walks
off, and then Miyagi startsreading the letter, which is a
special delivery from Okinawa,

Jason Connell (05:09:44):
right. So that's why the postman had to come in
the back to find him in thefirst place, which wouldn't have
happened in today's world, theywould have left a note saying
that you've got to come to thepost office to get this special
package. Or we'll tryredelivery. So the postman comes
back to him sign for it, becauseit is coming from Okinawa, and
it was a special delivery. Andwhat cracks me up is that the

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postman is blown away by what hesees back here and much to my
earlier point, this place couldbe a museum, it's a spectacle
what Miyagi is built, but what Ilove is nobody responds to the
postman. Miyagi is caught uplooking at the letter. And Dan,
do you think Danny would step upsay much like he did a second
ago, but maybe say hey, ya know,thanks so much for the time but

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no one says anything. And thepostman is on his own to retreat
and say yeah, I guess I'll seeyou guys later that which is
pretty funny. So the letter Salis in forming Mr. Miyagi? that
his father is sick. And he wantsto see him, essentially. Yeah.

Sal Rodriguez (05:10:49):
And Daniel didn't even know that he had a father.
We for sure didn't know. Anddefinitely Daniel didn't know.
So this is all a big shock toboth Daniel and the viewer.

Jason Connell (05:10:58):
Yeah, exactly. So that sets things in motion. And
this next thing kind of cracksme up, because I was watching it
going, Wow, is that how it wasin the 80s. But Miyagi goes to
get a passport. And he's flyingthe very next day to fly
International to go back toOkinawa. And he's in line with

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Daniel, and he's getting apassport. So I guess now, you
could do that on very, veryshort notice back then?

Sal Rodriguez (05:11:26):
Well, let me tell you this, just as a point of
reference, and this isabsolutely true. There was at
one point, I think I was ateenager where I had to get an
ID for some reason, I think Iwanted to start working. So I
needed an ID and I didn't haveone. There was some issue with
my birth certificate. My motherdid not have my birth
certificate. For some reason. Mymother then took my baptism
certificate. I mean, howofficial is a church baptism

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certificate? My mother took mychurch's baptism certificate and
got me a state ID from that.
That was the 80s, my friend.

Jason Connell (05:11:59):
Okay. All right.
I think I flew with ablockbuster card once. That's
how lacks It was now I'm justkidding. So here we are this
interesting scene with Miyagi.
And Daniel having a chat about,you know, we're learning not
just about his father, but abouthis lost love and his friend

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that they kind of were on theouts and how Miyagi has left and
never gone back. But all thiswhile they're in this line to
get a passport. And Daniel isnot, it's kind of funny, because
he's not next to him. He's kindof behind him as if he's in line
himself.

Sal Rodriguez (05:12:38):
Yeah, I thought that was sort of a funny
positioning of why they chosethat. Yeah, he was, you know, if
you say to your friend, hey,let's go Go with me to the DMV
or whatever, they're gonna standnext to you in line, right,
they're not going to be or maybeeven sitting off on a bench,
they're not going to be behindyou. So I did think that was a
funny positioning is the ad.
Daniel is behind Miyagi, in thispassport office. So obviously a

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state officer, a federal office,but this is the moment where we
learn all about what went on, orwhat went down and Okinawa. Why
and how Miyagi wound up inreceita?

Jason Connell (05:13:12):
Well, first, to your point about DMV and a
friend going with you, that's agood friend, who's gonna go to
the DMV with you. There's that.
And secondly, I guess what Ithought about this scene more,
they just wanted to get us outof the house. Because Miyagi
could have read that letter, andcut to suitcase, you know, and
he's packing. But I guess theywanted to take us away for a

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minute and give some exposition,rather than just cutting right
to that. If that was the onlypurpose he that we don't need to
know that he doesn't have apassport, but they wanted to
show him and Daniel doingsomething on point,

Sal Rodriguez (05:13:50):
I think it was an opportunity for Miyagi, to
explain the history of Okinawa,you know, his personal history
and what went down?

Jason Connell (05:13:58):
Yeah, no, I think that's sort of done anywhere. He
could have done that at thebreakfast table. He could have
done it as soon as he got theletter. Yeah. So I think they
just wanted to get us out ofthere. And maybe him getting a
passports saying that I've nevergone back, and I've got to get a
passport because when I leftthat was it anyway, not a bad
thing.

Sal Rodriguez (05:14:18):
I just realized something I just said he went
from Okinawa, to receita. We doknow that he spent time in the
military. So exactly. We don'tthere was a whole group of years
between when he left Okinawa, towhen Daniel met him there was a
whole bunch of years. I wonderwhat happened in those years?

Jason Connell (05:14:34):
Why he was married, and they weren't going
to have a child so there's awhole storyline which we've
never get to know beyond thefirst film shutting just a
little bit of light on it. Youknow, the Miyagi last years.

Sal Rodriguez (05:14:49):
are like his late 20s 30s 40s 50s Those are the
Miyagi last years.

Jason Connell (05:14:54):
Yeah, maybe in Cobra Kai, Daniel will stumble
on some old book you know, someold photo album and we'll be
able to piece some more thingstogether hidden in a wall
somewhere when they're at theMiyagi house. Who knows but I'd
sure like to see a little bit ofmore of Miyagi story play out

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much like they did in Cobra Kailast season, showing Miyagi do
the initial build out on hisplace? That was a really great
same

Sal Rodriguez (05:15:23):
Yes, so after they leave the passport office,
and Daniel learn some of thestories about what happened in
Okinawa next scene Daniel looksat old pictures of uk uk is
Miyagi is old girlfriend Sato isas old best friend who was
engaged to be married to UKMiyagi. Hell's Daniel the whole
entire story about why he leftOkinawa and that is the crucial

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element. Because unfortunately,Miyagi throughout the movie
doesn't live that down and hasto revisit his old best friend
who is turned into his nemesisSato.

Jason Connell (05:15:58):
And he seems to have a lot of sad feelings over
what happened with Uta, which isinteresting, like it's almost
representing his first lostlove. Or maybe the one that got
away. He had been married, andhe had a child on the way so,
but for some reason, this moviereally harkens on this

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relationship with UTA andMiyagi, he's kind of has a lot
of regret, he carries a lot ofregret around.

Sal Rodriguez (05:16:27):
Do you think there's also this one moment
because in this one beat whenMiyagi is looking at a
photograph and Daniel is kind ofpeeking in and looking at
Miyagi, look at this photograph,and then he kind of lets his arm
hang down, and then he kind ofputs his head down, like almost
dread. Like he's almost dreadinggoing back to have to confront

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his past.

Unknown (05:16:49):
Oh, totally.

Jason Connell (05:16:50):
He's moved on.
This is a new life. He's livedhere longer than he lived in
Okinawa. Yeah. So this is hislife. So now I like this shot we
see this cab roll in the frameand it says Valley cab company
love Oh, yeah.

Sal Rodriguez (05:17:08):
Just like the all Valley tournament.

Jason Connell (05:17:10):
Exactly. This franchise love the valley. So
now Daniel is supposed to seeMiyagi off and he's not there.
And so Miyagi is forced to leavein the cab. And thanks well,
okay, you know, Daniels nothere. Let's go. But this leads

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to a another scene that cannothappen in today's culture. But
Sal, what happens?

Sal Rodriguez (05:17:37):
Well, when you talk about the airports, you
have, when I talk about theairports, I talk about pre 911
and post 911 pre 911 airports.
You know what I used to like totravel. I used to enjoy it.
After 911 No, Miyagi isliterally boarding the plane.
He's talking to the stewardess.

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He's literally getting on theplane at this moment. Daniel
runs up right up to Miyagi andthe stewardess

Jason Connell (05:18:05):
and nothing came.
He's literally at the plane likeright at the lane door plane.

Sal Rodriguez (05:18:10):
Yeah, yeah, he's at the plane door with his
ticket, which means

Jason Connell (05:18:14):
they don't check you in right before you go down
the long runway. You just go tothe plane and say, Here's my
ticket.

Sal Rodriguez (05:18:21):
Well, you also when you and I have discussed
this before, the fact that wereto get his passport did he have
a passport? Do you get apassport the day he was the day
before with Miyagi at thepassport place? Did he actually
get a passport so Mr. Miyagi?
Wouldn't know when did he get apassport?

Jason Connell (05:18:35):
Is that why he was behind me? Auggie? He got
his he's like, I'll meet you. Isigned this a second. Yeah, that
suspect. And then

Sal Rodriguez (05:18:45):
Daniel convinces Miyagi to let them go to Okinawa
with them.

Jason Connell (05:18:49):
Yeah, exactly. He bought a ticket, you know,
several $100 He got a passport.
But Miyagi still could havesaid, No, thanks for no thanks.
He asked to talk him into it,and he lets him go.

Sal Rodriguez (05:19:01):
But that moment when Daniel says, Thank you to
Miyagi for letting him go. Thankyou for letting me go. And then
Miyagi says, No, Daniel, son,thank you, at that moment is
where kind of the tables getturned. And the student is there
to support the teacher.

Jason Connell (05:19:19):
This is true.
This is true. It now it's abuddy flick. So next, we're on
the airplane. And I know it's along flight. Well, you know,
firsthand. But what I thoughtabout immediately, Sal was the
fact that the entertainment onan international flight was a
good book.

Sal Rodriguez (05:19:38):
Yeah, there was no movies, the right there was
no movie either in the seat infront of you, or on a laptop.
That's it. You had a book or youslept, or you chatted that was
it Oh, no, they

Jason Connell (05:19:48):
would show a movie though. They did show like
one movie and they just told youwhat it's gonna be. And then
everyone can look ahead.

Sal Rodriguez (05:19:54):
They didn't do that. All they would have the
one big they would have the onebig screen up and say

Jason Connell (05:19:59):
the screening will be the Black Stallion.
Yeah. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez (05:20:06):
screening is whatever we are going to play
and you're gonna watch it.

Jason Connell (05:20:10):
And I don't even know at one point in time, they
probably didn't have individualheadsets at one point in time a
pod would just turn it up loud.
And if you don't want to see it,sorry, I am sure that was that
happened at one point in time.
What do you say? says he lovesher but it doesn't want to leave
her. Alright, so now Miyagi vanshares that his father also

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train Sato and Sal, what elsedid we learn about where this
conflict It was going had Miyagistayed in Okinawa, what would
well,

Sal Rodriguez (05:20:47):
okay, so Daniel is still probably reeling off
his victory of the all Valleyunder 18 tournament. But what
Miyagi let let him know is that,no, you don't understand. He
wants to fight me to the depth.
This is not there's not gonna bea referee or judges. He wants to
fight me. And the winner is theone who's still living. That's
what he says in so many words.

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So that's when we learn thatthis is not just a fight, you
know, to tap out. This is not atap out fight. This is a fight
to the death.

Jason Connell (05:21:18):
No cell. Have you ever been in a fight to the
death?

Sal Rodriguez (05:21:22):
Oh, I've been fight where I thought I might
die. But no, I have not been ina fight to

Jason Connell (05:21:27):
meet either.
Thank goodness. Alright, so assoon as we get off the plane,
not a beat later. I love how wesee the branding. And it's plain
as day. And there's this hugesign for Sato. And this is
before we even see Sato inperson. And it says learn karate
at Okinawa's biggest Dojo withMaster Sato 40 years official

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instructor of the US military,proven in combat. So Sal Souter
was a big deal.

Sal Rodriguez (05:22:02):
Well, he's not only a big deal in karate,
because if you look at theentirety of this view, so you
see the Sato karate poster, butsurrounding the Sato karate
poster, or these other smallerads on the left Sato bank and
Sato Realty. And on the upperright, Sato, escort service, so

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this guy has his rods and a lotof fires.

Jason Connell (05:22:27):
He sure does. And he stayed there and he became
very successful. And it allstarted from learning from Mr.
Miyagi his father, who's alsoMr. Miyagi, actually. So that
leads to the question, what isMr. Miyagi? His name?

Sal Rodriguez (05:22:44):
How many movies?
Wait, hang on, we have seen 20episodes of Cobra Kai. We have
seen what five karate KidsMovies You know, you got the
Karate Kid. 123 And then you gotthe sequel? The sequels? We
still don't know what Mr. Miyagiis. First name is?

Jason Connell (05:22:59):
No So how do we refer to his father? You know
what I learned senior Mr. MiyagiJr.

Sal Rodriguez (05:23:05):
in the credits of the movie of this here movie,
and the credits. Miyagi isfather. That's what that's what
he's known as.

Jason Connell (05:23:12):
Okay, so they both learn how to fight from
Yagis father, they are probablyequal. I'm assuming Miyagi is
very skilled, and we'll get intosockos disposition later. He's a
bigger man. Then when he talks,but he stayed and became very
successful, obviously, just justsee this one poster or see this

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one kiosk, and you have an idea.
So they walk out kind of hail acab, but there's this character
there and his name is chosen,which is a pretty funny name.
And chosen is there to pick themup from the airport and sell I
immediately do not trust thisguy. There's just something
about him and and maybe it'sthat super heavy handshake, plus

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this fly collar and gold chains,but I don't know. I don't trust
them. And much like I felt aboutCrease all along. Although Chris
I'm intrigued by because he'scharismatic. This guy. I don't
like him. I don't trust him atall. How did you feel?

Sal Rodriguez (05:24:16):
Well, I think that it's normal to have a
mistrust of people with an openpolyester shirt with chains.
It's just a normal instinct andperson Showzen is chosen is
played by actor Ug okumoto. Histwo sidekicks Joey Mia Shima is
Toshio and Mark HYAH she asToro, Toro we don't see at first

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we see chosen and Toshio, theygreet Miyagi and Daniel at the
airport, picking them up in a1958 Cadillac, Fleetwood,
beautiful car. Very beautifulcar, actually. And yeah, that
moment where he gives them theextra firm handshake, and then
he does this little thing, whichI do know. I used to watch him
karate movies from the 60s and70s. He does this little extra

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tag at the end of hisstatements. If you listen to his
words, he doesn't at least threefour times in the movie and he
does it here for the first time.
Is where he says, I hope yourstay here is a pleasant one.
Yeah, he does a little. Yeah, hedoes that at the end. I love
that because that's such karate.
In the old days, Kung Fuvillains. Do that. Aloha. Oh,

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you think you're gonna bebigness Turner. So he gives that
extra firm handshake and forsure at that moment, any guy
maybe some women too, but anyguy who's ever shaken another
man's hand, you know, these guysthat do this death grip
handshake. And that's exactlywhat he does is a show of
dominance. And Daniel sees thatbut he and Miyagi get into this
90 58 Cadillac, Fleetwood,

Jason Connell (05:25:44):
good point well said and I would say the only
positive that I can think aboutthat is going on with the
current state of affairs in ourcountry in our world is the fact
that a heavy handshake isprobably a thing of the past.
Imagine how many shook ingeneral Yeah, exactly. A

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handshake in general is probablylike an assault. It's probably
no longer acceptable so a heavyone it that you're not going to
see those for years to come.

Sal Rodriguez (05:26:17):
Well, you know what, I think we will live to
see the day where someone willsay, Officer arrest that man,
they shook my hand

Jason Connell (05:26:24):
and they attempted to shake my hand
that's attempted murder. Yeah,so don't trust him. But at this
point in time, Mr. Miyagi thinksthat hey, you know, they know
I'm coming to town. They sentsomeone to pick me up. That's
great. But right away posthandshake because Miyagi did not
see this take place. Right away,Mr. Miyagi notices. They're

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going the wrong direction, awayfrom the village. And where does
Chozen drive them to?

Sal Rodriguez (05:26:54):
Well, I have to mention the music chosen puts on
some music, too, too. He's toattempt to like, Hey, you're old
you like this music. That musicthat he put on in the car that
shows him put on what's calledfascination waltz. And if you
look at trivia, is the same songthat was playing at the country

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club party in the first KarateKid movie. So when they're at
that Country Club, that song isplaying. So yeah, you know,
realizes Yes,

Jason Connell (05:27:23):
I recognize that.
I didn't recognize it to be thatbut I knew it was that time and
era and I always liked that. Ithink even Caddyshack had a
scene where they had a verysimilar song if not the same
song, but good spot. Nice. Nicejob.

Sal Rodriguez (05:27:36):
So Miyagi though realizes Yes, like you said he
realizes something's amiss. Hesays a village south. Why we go
north now. Now I got to be clearhere. Okay. And I'm being
absolutely truthful here. Ifigured this out myself. And
then I validated it lateronline. So Miyagi says the
village so they landed in? Nah,ha. They were at Naha airport.

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He says village South why we gonorth. Now. They are supposed to
go north, because Kadena wherewe're going to visit Kadena Air
Base we're going to meet in amoment is north of nah, ha. And
Tomi village is in Kadena, whichis north of nah. So they got the
geography kind of screwed uphere. I have to fault the
production on this. But heshould have said, village north.

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Why do we go south now that'swhat Miyagi should have said to
be geographically correct.

Jason Connell (05:28:22):
But either way, they weren't taking them into
the village. They were takingthem to some hanger. So they
could meet Sato. And now we getto confront Sato who, despite
all of the riches, and all ofhis prestige and power is still
has this vendetta against Miyagias if it was yesterday.

Sal Rodriguez (05:28:47):
Sato played by actor Danny kamekona. I liked
the first thing that he says tome how you the first his first
words, he hasn't seen his oldfriend in 45 years, the first
thing he says, so coward, youreturn. I love that.

Jason Connell (05:29:02):
That's it. It's on. Just like

Sal Rodriguez (05:29:04):
that's the first the first thing

Jason Connell (05:29:06):
and the background, I could see another
huge building and it had sockosname on that. So we get he, he
owns this town. So they have anexchange. And we know that the
stakes are still very highMiyagi, he's not just gonna pop
in and see his father and thenget out of town. He's gonna have
to deal with Sato.

Sal Rodriguez (05:29:25):
Well, Sato, I believe says, if I'm not
mistaken in the actual quote,you see, Father, then you see
me.

Jason Connell (05:29:33):
That's it. And then they're all there even get
a ride. They're just left totheir left there. And they've
got Yeah, they've got to get acab and now they're at the
village but this village theyget to is now a US military
base.

Sal Rodriguez (05:29:48):
Yeah, so they arrive in a taxi. The cabbie
seems lost. He doesn't know Tomivillage so they arrive upon
this. They're doing constructionthere's military guys. So
they're asking where's TommyVillage? Now? I don't know why
the cab he doesn't know wheretold me villages as a cab
driver. They greet a soldier.
The soldier says this is KadenaAir Base. In other words, told
me village used to be here, butnow it's Kadena Air Base.

Jason Connell (05:30:10):
Now we know what happened to the village. So they
find the right place. Thingshave changed. I mean, hey,
Miyagi has been gone for twoyears things change. And the
first person we meet is Kumiko,who's played by Tamlyn Tomita
her first movie, but she hasgone on to have an incredible

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career. I mean, countless showsand movies, but it all started
here. Yep. And she and where wasshe from? So

Sal Rodriguez (05:30:41):
Well, originally from Okinawa born in Okinawa. 20
years old at the time of thismovie, absolutely beautiful. I
mean, I'm a little tongue tietalking about her she I just
think she's so beautiful anddoes a fantastic job. And this
is indeed her debut role. So welearn that Kumiko is Yuki A's
Nice. Now you ka the former loveof Mr. Miyagi.

Jason Connell (05:31:02):
Right. So now we meet Uta. And it's a beautiful
scene you have you know, her andMiyagi seeing each other for the
first time, and 40 years. But wealso learned that UTA not only
did not marry Sato, but she wasnever married. Yeah, it's kind
of a sad thing to hear thatsomeone didn't get married,

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because who knows why, but shenever got that opportunity.
Miyagi probably only makes himfeel worse, Sal. I mean, if he'd
come back and you kid had afamily, he could feel happy for
her. But now he's probably evensuper hard on himself for
leaving. And it's just reallyemotional. And that's the
emotional chord of this entirefilm, is their relationship and

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Yagis regret and the regret thathe didn't get to spend the last
40 years with his father, andthat's what got me that's what
made this movie compelling. Andthat's why I like that this was
such a departure from the firstfilm, and we weren't just
prepping for all valley to,although I've been really cool,
but I love that this has thisstoryline in it. It's more of an

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adult storyline,

Sal Rodriguez (05:32:15):
even though the original movie has the love line
with Daniel and Ali. I do thinkamid the romantic backdrop of
Okinawa, we see thereinvigoration of UK and Mr.
Miyagi there over the body ofhis ill father. They are having
their reconnection. Now, by theway, I just want to give a

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couple of cool trivia here.
Miyagi is dad, played by actorCharlie Teddy moto actually died
only two years after the filmingof this. And Nobu McCarthy, who
plays Yuki, I think has aninteresting story. Born in
Canada, raised in Japan lived inthe US then died in Brazil in
2002, at age 67, and was alsoonce Miss Tokyo. So I think had

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a very storied and interestinglife.

Jason Connell (05:33:04):
Wow, yeah, she's very attractive and really great
in this role. So next, we seeMiyagi and he's training in the
dojo, and he shares the familyhistory with Daniel as well as
the secret to Miyagi familykarate.

Sal Rodriguez (05:33:20):
Yeah, this is where we first learn about the
den den dicho hand drum. Now Ido want to say as a point of
reference, and I'm prettycertain it's not spoken at all
and this movie is the phraseMiyagi dough. Now Miyagi dough
we know about from Cobra Kai,Miyagi dough karate, but there
is no reference to Miyagi dough.
And throughout this movie, it'smerely called Miyagi family

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karate.

Jason Connell (05:33:43):
I think Daniel coined that phrase out of
respect.

Sal Rodriguez (05:33:47):
Okay, so that was not originally coined it later
with Cobra Kai.

Jason Connell (05:33:50):
And so there's another quick scene here which
we've talked about on Cobra Kaibecause they have a flashback to
this very scene. But while we'rehere in the midst of this movie,
where it came from, we have totalk about it because I always
loved it. So this leads toMiyagi showing Daniel the rules.
And Sal please tell us what ruleone and rule two are.

Sal Rodriguez (05:34:14):
There they are in the Miyagi family dojo and up on
the walls. In the sword ofscrolls. Vertical scrolls, I
believe Japanese writing is doneup and down also like Chinese
writing, rule number one, karatefor defense only, and then they
go back Rule number two, firstlearn rule number one. So there

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we go. That is that is theoverall theme of Miyagi karate
or Miyagi dough later, karatefor defense only,

Jason Connell (05:34:42):
and that's very true Miyagi takes a defense
approach with crease, even withthe Cobra Kai's when he had to
save Daniel, and they all havethe wonderful skeleton outfits
on shore, he uses offense, butit's defense first and then
offense to kind of you know, putdown the attack. It's a

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wonderful tribute to that style.
And I love that that rule numbertwo is just that it's so
perfect.

Sal Rodriguez (05:35:10):
See, but this but but later on, and I say later
on, we're going to visit thisagain. Yep. Yep. Miyagi is dad
taught Sato. So theoreticallySato and Miyagi would be sort of
at the same level. Sato teacheschosen, Mr. Miyagi teaches
Danielson, so theoreticallychosen, and Danielson. Both have

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the same skill set or near sameand know the same secrets. Going
back to the Denton Duyguhandrim. So later on, I'm going
to think why doesn't is chosenknow about Denden dicho.

Jason Connell (05:35:45):
So now we explore the village and Sal, everyone
seems to recognize Miyagi andit's been so long Well, I think

Sal Rodriguez (05:35:54):
that we have to assume his father is a renowned
martial arts teacher. It seemslike people are happy to see me
Auggie. I don't think people areI mean, except for Sato
obviously. I think he's seen asjust sort of a old hometown boy,
come back to visit. Okay, soMiyagi and Daniel are walking

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along and Miyagi is teachingmore about the village history
to Daniel, we look over we seeIshiro playing music for the
kids in front of the Shintoshrine. Miyagi keeps telling
more about the village historyto Daniel Kumiko teaches the
Oban dance to little kids nowOban, which will be quite
relevant as we progress in thismovie. Oban is a Japanese

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Buddhist custom to honor thespirits of one's ancestors. But
that gives a little bit ofhistory on the dance and the
festival, which we will beseeing shortly.

Jason Connell (05:36:47):
Okay. And the dance is really beautiful and
can make us really good at it.
She's good with the kids. Andit's a nice sequence. So now
Sato arrives along with chosenwho's got a different shirt, but
yet same fly color and goldchains. And Sato is upset, and
he wants to fight right then inthere until UTA steps in. So So
what do you think would havehappened? Had she not stepped

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in?

Sal Rodriguez (05:37:15):
Okay, so this is where Sato says, You give me no
choice and he takes off hisjacket and he starts to get into
position, ready to strike.
Miyagi? Well, I don't thinkMiyagi would have been there. I
think in an actual fight. And Isay this as a fight fan. I say
this as somebody who's beenwatching martial arts, his whole
life mixed martial arts since93. I think that Miyagi would be
too fast for Sato. Now, youdon't want to get hit by a guy

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like Sato. You do not want himto connect with you. But I think
that you can elude him. And thatMiyagi is fast enough to get out
of the way of Santos punches. Soin an actual fight between
Miyagi and Sato, I think that ifMiyagi just stayed out of
Satoshis way he could possiblywear down Sato tire out Sato and
then finally defeat him in theend. Okay,

Jason Connell (05:37:59):
I like it. Yeah, probably be a great fight, but
it's not going to happen righthere. So when UK breaks it up,
she also summons them to go seeMr. Miyagi his father, who is on
his last breath, if you will.
And so Sato and Miyagi go to seehis father, and they hold hands
kind of out of tradition, Iguess. Although there's this

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beneath the surface, they'reabout to kill each other,
literally. And they have to putit aside and mourn together. So
it's kind of a classic moviedeath as we see the last moment
of his life. And so I just wishthat we had gotten to know him a
little bit better. I know thatwe showed up and he's already on

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his deathbed. And there's that,but it would have been nice to
see some flashbacks to a littlebit younger Miyagi, who could
have played himself, justlooking a little bit younger,
you know, take some of the grayout. And even maybe if he young
Sato, I think that this moviecould have used just a little
bit of that. I don't know whatyour thoughts are. But I didn't
feel enough for Miyagi fatherbecause I just didn't know him.

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But I felt for Miyagi, Mr.
Miyagi. That is,

Sal Rodriguez (05:39:11):
I think that the movie at this point is letting
us know that the Father is sortof an ancillary character to
propel the plot, and not asimportant because what at that
moment, though, on his deathbed,if you recall, the father Miyagi
his father, grabbed Serratoshand grabs Miyagi, his hand and
puts their hands together, hetries to make peace with the two

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of them. Miyagi is okay withthat. Sato is the one who pulls
away so the father wanted togive peace between his son and
his number one student otherthan a son. And unfortunately,
Sato was not having it Miyagiwas okay with it. And yeah, he
just kind of just kind of plopsdefinitely a cinematic death,
where he just goes, it's almostlike saying his last words like

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those were his last words. Hislast words were, I want peace
with you, too. Those were hislast words.

Jason Connell (05:39:59):
Whenever nice to see some sort of flashback or
something, or even photos orjust just give me a little bit
more. I was yearning for that.

Sal Rodriguez (05:40:07):
After this movie, and after Cobra Kai, I am
looking forward to the entireuniverse opening up not only for
the future, but in the past. Iwant to see little Miyagi I want
to see little Sato. I want tosee them as kids. They obviously
grew up together. They spenttheir whole entire life
together, up until Miyagi was 18and headed out due to disgracing

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Serratos. Honor. Otherwise, yes,I would love to explore their
paths and I think that leaves itopen to a whole nother franchise
to come along and explore orMiyagi he's childhood in
Okinawa.

Jason Connell (05:40:45):
Yes. So then Sato says you have three days to
mourn and then fight. So if I'mMr. Miyagi, hey, guess well, I
hung out in two days, we canjust avoid this whole thing. I
got two days to mourn. Y'allhang out with UTA showed the
ideal route them out of here. Sothings are in motion, we're

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going to be able to spend threedays morning and tying up some
loose ends and rekindling somethings. And there's least pause
now, which we didn't have beforebecause Sato was ready to go to
blows, you know, just a fewminutes ago. And I love when
they when everyone morning, litthe candles on a little, what

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would you say if that is Sal,little rafts for these candles
are?

Sal Rodriguez (05:41:33):
Well by appearance for any of you
familiar with the southwesterncustom of luminarias, where they
sort of a paper bag with acandle inside, right. So this is
this is yeah, this is verysimilar, just a different decor.
And obviously, they float. Soit's like them putting these
colorful black luminarias with acandle inside on the water,

(05:41:53):
almost sending off your lovedone. So in this scene, they're
all gathered about, and they'reall putting these luminaria type
little rafts on the water tosignify the departure of the
loved one. In this case, Miyagiis father, that's very touching.

Jason Connell (05:42:07):
And it's such a great visual, it's at night, you
have Bill Conti score, swelling,it was really a beautiful
moment. And yes, a nice closureto the his passing.

Sal Rodriguez (05:42:20):
And also at that very moment. If you notice, Sato
is right there next to him. Soyeah, there is a pause, there's
a pause here. And I'm almostreminded of they say, We're
taught that during the CivilWar, the north and south would
take a break for Christmas. So Iliked that. It's like, let's
take a break here, you know, andI really liked that a lot. So

(05:42:41):
here, there's an actual break,he does give him three days, I
don't think it's very long, buthe does give him some time to
mourn. And there is a momentarypeace here.

Jason Connell (05:42:49):
And this leads to perhaps, I would say, for me,
anyway, the most emotional scenein the entire franchise. And
it's when Daniel shares aboutlosing his father, and to your
earlier point, here's thedisciple kind of leading the
teacher, and he's sharing aboutlosing his father and you can

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see the pain in Miyagi his eyes.
In fact, Miyagi doesn't sayanything for this entire
sequence. And it's the firsttime that he's vulnerable, and
human. And we've never seen himlike this before. And while this
scene is going on, from anacting standpoint, just the
scenery, it's such a beautifulshot of them sitting next to

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each other, and Daniel puts hisarm around him as the sun rays
come through the clouds above,and there's a bonsai just in
front of them. And it's justit's such a magnificent moment.
So it just, it makes me tear upevery time I see it.

Sal Rodriguez (05:43:50):
It really is.
It's beautiful in every way.
It's beautiful for thecharacters and for fans of The
Karate Kid universe. But alsofrom a naturalistic perspective,
I have been to Japan and thosesunsets are beautiful. They have
some beautiful sunsets there. Soyeah, this was a fantastic scene
in every way and if you noticeon the right hand side of the
screen is a little bone sidethere as well. Yeah, so just

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that two shot from the back withthe clouds and the ocean and
yeah, Daniel with his armaround, Mr. Miyagi, powerful
scene fantastically acted scene.
Definitely, definitelybeautiful. And

Jason Connell (05:44:23):
Miyagi is not even really crying or bawling,
but there's just tears in hiseyes. I mean, that's, that's
incredible moment for him as anactor, and all of our collective
hearts break to see Miyagi, whois this rock. Like you said
earlier, we've all wanted aMiyagi in our life. So to see
him in pain, it's like too muchfor us to bear. You know, it's

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just too much, and we've neverseen it before.

Sal Rodriguez (05:44:48):
But this is also another example of how Daniel
steps up to the plate. Everytime Daniel has to do something,
whether it be fight someone, orcomfort someone. I mean, you
know what, the more I aminvolved in the Karate Kid
universe, the more I actuallyfall in love with Daniel's

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character. I really do. I thinkthat he's way more multifaceted
than he would appear at first,especially based on the first
movie, you know, he comes aroundhe's like a belligerent
teenager. He's annoyed with hismother in the very beginning of
the movie, but you see hisevolution and you see how he
changes and grows. I'm veryproud of broth macho as an
actor, and very proud of Danielas a character.

Jason Connell (05:45:30):
Yeah, and I think that gets lost a lot as well. Is
that Ralph Macho is anincredible actor. And for some
reason that this gets overlookedsometimes I think he doesn't get
the credit is Dude, because it'sso convincing of a roll, Daniel
Russo that people just take itfor granted, but he's
incredible. He really is. Evenon Cobra Kai, you just see it

(05:45:53):
like, this guy's got range, andhe can turn on a dime and be
this guy and be charming. Andhe's really he's really
something. And there's a reasonwhy these movies work so well.
There's a reason why 35 yearslater, there's a TV show. That's
wonderful. And it's based onthese characters because they

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not only had the story, right,and they got the right director,
and they got the right producer,but they got some incredible
talent, and Pat Merida, andRalph Maggio. So here we are, we
leave this great scene. And nowwe're back to training. And we
see Miyagi and Daniel andDaniel, I believe is improving.

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I think he's a better fighternow than he was at all valley.
He's learning more. And so Ilove this flying cable
technique. Please describe thisfor our listeners.

Sal Rodriguez (05:46:50):
Well, Miyagi wants to continue the training.
So this scene opens up with themdoing some martial arts
training. Then he takes him downto this Canary, which was a part
of his childhood there was ownedby Satoshis father, and Satoshis
father gave me Auggie, his firstjob at this Canary. But while
Miyagi worked this Canary, hewould use this. I mean, jeez,

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I'm not a fisherman. It's thisswinging hook. It's a double
sided hook. It's about as big asan axe. It's pretty large. And
it swings. And you have to getout of its way or it literally
impaled you. So he uses this asa training device. He
demonstrates Daniel wants to doit. Daniel wants to say I want

(05:47:35):
to try it. At first, Miyagi isreluctant because this is a this
is a deadly training exercise,literally. But then Miyagi says,
Okay, fine, and he attaches ablock of wood. Now, when he's
attaching this block of wood,I'm thinking to myself, Okay,
maybe he's not going to die, buthe still can be seriously
injured. When a block of wood isflying

Jason Connell (05:47:54):
at your face. The impact of this is still gonna be
strong. Yes.

Sal Rodriguez (05:47:58):
So Daniel convinces Miyagi, Miyagi says,
Fine, let's the swinging rope gowith the log on the end. And
Daniel jumps out of the way, hedoesn't know how to properly get
out of the way. So he kind ofjumps out of the way falls into
the water, right next to thisrope swinging thingy, at the
candidate

Jason Connell (05:48:15):
hits, it hits really hard, and he would have
been hit hard. And I thought itwas like cork, but whatever,
it's coming down really hot. Andso true to Daniels form. You
know, he sometimes attemptsthings that he's not prepared to
do. But there's a second one ofthese hooks up there. And this
one, since Miyagi is coming downthe ladder, there's not a cork

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on the end. So this is literallya hook, Daniel gets back up out
of the water, and he pulls thislever, and the next one comes
down full speed unprotected,there's a huge hook, you could
very easily get impaled, getkilled. And so what happens this
time?

Sal Rodriguez (05:48:57):
Well, this is the initiation of the drum
technique. Yes, this is where westart to see the drum technique
employed, as brought to usoriginally by the den den Jaiku.
And we will see later as wellnot to spoil. So now Daniel
employs the drum technique,which involves a twist, getting
out of the way. And this hookgoes so close, actually cuts

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part of a shirt. That's howclose this hook was. So that's
how, how sheer that space wasbetween him and that hook. So he
barely moves out of the wayemploying the drum technique.

Jason Connell (05:49:30):
And then the hook goes into this wood and just
sticks with his piece of theshirt with it. And he's like,
Oh, that was close. But you cantell that what I liked about
that moment is that he isfearless Sal. And he is a fast
learner. Now he doesn't have itdown yet. But I know for martial

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arts too. And all sports thatI've played. It's about
repetitions. And, and that's howI am it's like do it 1000 times
and master but Daniel's one ofthese guys, at least in these
movies, that he picks things upvery quickly.

Sal Rodriguez (05:50:04):
The word prodigy is not used not much in our
culture, let alone with thesemovies or Cobra Kai. But I think
you could probably say at thispoint that Daniel would be
considered a prodigy. Yeah,

Jason Connell (05:50:14):
well, he has to because if he was on a normal
trajectory, to become a blackbelt or be doing these things,
these movies that would neverpan out. So he has to kind of be
that character. You know, theycan go from zero to 60 very
quickly. So not that he's aMiyagi he's class, but that he
is ahead of others, if you will.
And so the next thing we have isDaniel Paul is now going to

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expose chosen. And thisinteresting sequence. If you
want to elaborate a little bit,

Sal Rodriguez (05:50:52):
Daniel meets for the first time officially each
row now each row was the oldfriend of Miyagi, who was
playing that instrument there atthe Shinto temple for the kids.
So each row drops a whole cartload of carrots, right before
Daniel, Daniel helps him withthe carrots. They then go take
the wheelbarrow of carrots overto the scales and weights that

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are set up by chosen and histhugs. Now, if you see a guy
like chosen operating a scale,you pretty much can guess
there's something cricket goingon here. And that's what we find
because as they approach thescales, there's a movement
somebody bumps into the scales,these weights fall down and we
learn and realize that theseweights are little false

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weights. So therefore the scalesare not true and are not
properly calibrated. And chosenand his buddies maybe Sato is
behind this I mean we don't knowif Sato is behind this exactly.
But we see chosen and hisbuddies are ripping off these
villagers of their vegetables

Jason Connell (05:51:53):
and chosen knows it's Daniel that's done this and
he's passed but he has all ofthese villagers coming after
him. So chalk that one up toDaniel he won that battle but

Sal Rodriguez (05:52:03):
chosen gets mobbed by the villagers the
villagers start attackingchosen. Hey, you're cheating us
so it's a good moment to seechosen get mobbed by these
villagers. I wish we could haveseen them get attacked and
beaten up but unfortunately wedon't. Right.

Jason Connell (05:52:16):
So now we see Miyagi. And he confesses that he
should have taken UK with him toAmerica. Now so that's just
really sad. Now to have thatkind of regret really reminds me
of the Clint Eastwood, MerylStreep film Bridges of Madison
County to know that they turntheir back on what could have

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been and that it's very sad.

Sal Rodriguez (05:52:39):
Yeah, the what could have been or the one that
got away stories. Very sad.
Yeah, definitely.

Jason Connell (05:52:45):
So now Kumiko is teaching Daniel the dance. And
again, Sal, he's a quicklearner. He's picking this thing
up right away.

Sal Rodriguez (05:52:58):
He is and what I like about Daniel, especially in
this moment, we see it. At firsthe doesn't want to he doesn't
want to do this dance out hereon the road. But yet he does it.
He does it anyway, even thoughhe's not. He's very reluctant,
you know. So I like that, youknow, you don't have to want to
do something yet you do it. So Irespect that. So he starts
getting his dance lesson fromKumiko. She shows him what's

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called the bond dance, whichagain, we're going to be
visiting later. And then at thatmoment, it seems like every time
Daniel and Kumiko are startingto get closer starting to get
more intimate. Somethinghappens. And again, we see now,
yeah, chosen and his thugsarriving. Chosen takes the den

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den dicho from Daniel shoves.
Kumiko kicks Daniel. And then asthey're walking away Kumiko
throws a tomato at chosen hitshim in the back of his polyester
shirt.

Jason Connell (05:53:52):
Right. So this really reminds me of the beach
scene from the original KarateKid, here comes this bully, and
Daniel's bested yet again. Butthis is also another eye roll
for me on this film, as much asI like it, and it has a lot of
strengths. It's got someweaknesses, and just, it's

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chosen yet again. He's alwaysthere. He's got nothing else to
do. But you had to rip offvillagers and hang out with
these bullies, and pester Danieland I think even threatens to
kill him in the same.

Sal Rodriguez (05:54:29):
Oh yeah, he says if you disrespect my honor,
again, I will kill you. Yeah, soDaniel isn't even doing
anything. No, nothing. Yeah. Andyet this guy his honor is all
bent out of shape because ofDaniel. You know, what, is it
possible and maybe do we learnin this scene? That it's
possible that Chosun has had athing for Kumiko because

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remember when he throws theshirt back he's like, you know
you like it like he sayssomething like that some sort of
smart as you know, you like myshirt? Like maybe he's known
Kumiko maybe he's had a crush onher. She never felt the same
way. Maybe there's a littlesomething there's remember
there's a history there inOkinawa before Daniel got

Jason Connell (05:55:05):
there. Yeah, you know, I don't know history
repeats itself. This is a veryMiyagi Sato UK storyline for
sure. So they walk away andstumble on to yet another
beautiful scene. And I noticedthat most of these beautiful
touching scenes are with theadults in this movie. And I

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think that's maybe was lost onme when I saw the movie for the
first time. But as an adult, I'mmore moved by it. But yeah, we
see Miyagi and UPA having a teaceremony. And Sal, why don't you
explain that? For us,

Sal Rodriguez (05:55:43):
well to the casual observer like myself, or
in this case, Daniel, you lookon you see two people in Japan,
drinking tea together, you don'treally know what's going on. So
Daniel asked Kumiko, what'sgoing on? And that's when Kumiko
lets Daniel know, they arefalling in love again. So we
learned that this is a ceremony.
That is an expression of love.
Either reacquainted love or newlove. Yeah,

Jason Connell (05:56:06):
that's pretty heavy, though. They're falling
in love again. Wow, that's big.

Sal Rodriguez (05:56:10):
I like this. I like it. I like ceremonies. And
that was one of the reasons whyyou select to go to church, not
necessarily that I went for allthe rules and so forth. But I
like ceremony. And that's whywhen you Yeah, when you look at
the tea ceremony later on, Ilike how every movement is
intentional. Ceremonial, isdeliberate. I like that stuff.

(05:56:31):
I've always enjoyed watchingceremonies occur, you probably
like structure as well. Yeah, Ikind of do. Maybe that's part of
it.

Jason Connell (05:56:38):
You know, I'm really drawn to martial arts,
because a lot of it has to dowith the ceremonies or this the
structure or the way things aredone. And then there's
achievements and you get to thenext belt. And so I'm really
drawn to now I've never had atea ceremony, which I think is
really cool. But I to share thefondness for ceremonies, and I

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think that's why I've kind ofbeen so captured by martial
arts. Okay, so now Daniel andKumiko are going exploring. And
while they do so, we hear theinfamous Peter Sutera track
glory of love.

Sal Rodriguez (05:57:16):
Yeah, and I think it's an interesting moment
because the music starts to playas they start to go observe King
Shahar. She's castle ruins and Ilike the words who just I don't
know if it just kind ofhappened. Or if Peter said Tara
wrote it this way the lyricsjust like a knight in shining
armor from a long time ago. Justin time, I'm a save the day take

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you to my castle far away asthey're at the castle. Did that
happen accidentally? Or was thaton purpose?

Jason Connell (05:57:45):
So why don't you give us a little rendition of
the chorus from the sonnets? Agreat track,

Sal Rodriguez (05:57:50):
just like a knight in shining armor from a
long time ago. Just in time I'mgonna save the day ticket to my
castle far away. All right,there we go.

Jason Connell (05:58:01):
Great song be I'm not sure to answer your question
if it was written for the scenewas this song not written for
the soundtrack?

Sal Rodriguez (05:58:11):
This song was originally scheduled for Rocky
for was it it was one of theRockies that they had hoped the
song to. That's right. But yeah,but instead it was replaced by
another song and they decided touse this song for the Karate Kid
too. And Bill

Jason Connell (05:58:25):
Conti was supposed to be the composer for
Rocky four because he had donerocky one through three thus far
and chose to do karate kid parttwo, but along with Appleton
they both came back and workedon Rocky five. So

Sal Rodriguez (05:58:41):
yeah, so what happened was glory of love was
supposed to be in Rocky but wasinstead, hearts on fire was
chosen over glory of love forthe Rocky films. So then the
glory of Love came into theKarate Kid too.

Jason Connell (05:58:52):
So now we're in the city. And both Daniel and
Kimiko are looking at TVs in thewindow of a store. And she
shares her dream of being adancer. And then out of nowhere,
actor BD Wong appears. We'vealways loved BD Wong from many
movies and TV shows, includingJurassic Park and the Jurassic

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worlds. And he invites him to adance. So she's dreaming of
being a dancer. And now she cango to this dance and show off
some moves.

Sal Rodriguez (05:59:26):
He's credited, I think, as flyer kid. Yeah. And
he's Yeah. And he's credited asBrad Wong with two Ds, Brad won.
And then he became BD Wong. I'mcurious how Brad one became BT
one but yeah, so Brad Wong whowe've seen in all these crime
shows here he has as a kidpassing out flyers for dance on
the street.

Jason Connell (05:59:45):
He does look so great in the scene like so out
of place. Here's this like, kid,you know, he looks like he's
running a Hollywood like extrascasting and giving them a flyer.
Sure. Bring your friend. He'ssuper excited, upbeat. And next
we see Santos dojo, it's rightacross the way and Daniel has to

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get a closer look, of course.
And as he peeks of the window,very reminiscent of Daniel,
walking up and looking throughthe window at Cobra Kai. And he
sees chosen is head of the classmuch like Johnny Lawrence, and
he takes on four attackers, andof course, best them all.

Sal Rodriguez (06:00:25):
Yeah, he has two guys. One guy grabs his right
arm. One guy grabs his left armso you got two guys holding you.
And then you have two guysattacking you and you have
chosen beats up four guys in hisclass. He essentially beats up
four of his students is what hedoes,

Jason Connell (06:00:38):
right? And they train hard very Cobra Kai style
here. It sounds toes dojo, sothey see that and then Daniel
wants to keep moving, and theystumble into, I guess it's a
bar. Um, I don't know if peopleare getting drunk in there, but
it's kind of like a bar andKimiko is resistant. She doesn't
want to go in there. Because shesays, you know, bad people, bad

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things happen in there. ButDaniel, you know, he's stubborn
as we know he is. And he takesthem in. And we can see that GE
eyes are all over the place. Andone in particular is attempting
to strike through sheets of ice.
And tell us who this particularGi is Sal,

Sal Rodriguez (06:01:21):
this guy is credited as being gi number one,
his name is Clarence Gil yard,Jr.

Jason Connell (06:01:27):
Well, Clarence was an diehard and Top Gun. So
he went on to be in some otherbig movies, I recognize him
right away. But he fails in hisattempt to hit through the
sheets of ice. And for those whohaven't seen this film, or it's
been a long time, there's thesesheets of ice. I don't know what
they about an inch thicker. I'mjust guessing.

Sal Rodriguez (06:01:50):
I probably say about 18 inches tall each one
and yeah, I would probably sayabout an inch thick, I would
say.

Jason Connell (06:01:56):
And they have them kind of slotted. So with
gaps in between, you've got tohit it, Sally, I guess like with
kind of a side motion, you know,like a ridge. And because it may
be kind of can you describe thisto the listener at all,

Sal Rodriguez (06:02:09):
you would be slicing at a horizontal chest
level, right? Because thesethings are in front of you, I
think what you should hope to dois that you hit the first one,
if you can break that first one,that first one breaks a second
one, that second one breaks thethird one and cetera, et cetera.
So you really got to make surethat you can crack that first
one, hit it hard enough so thatit then subsequently breaks the

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rest of them. But yeah, it'slike right in front of you. Six
slots, six pieces of icevertical, and then you got to
slice through them horizontallyand with a karate chop.
Possible. I mean, I don't thinkI could do

Jason Connell (06:02:40):
it. I don't think gi number one had six sheets of
ice, I think he only had threeor four.

Sal Rodriguez (06:02:46):
Yeah, and his form was something to be
desired. I mean, again, I'vewatched enough fights to say he
had no prep, he had no poise, hehad no skill, he may be able to
fight in a barroom fight. Butwhen it came to, using proper
technique to slice these things,they left a lot to be desired,

Jason Connell (06:03:01):
right? So gi Number one, he fails, and he
overhears Daniel saying why hefailed. And of course, he says,
Hey, if you can do better, youknow, do it, go for it. And the
Daniel has already figured itout. Again, back to my point
that he might be some sort ofprodigy, or at least a fast
learner. I'll give him that. Sohe's challenged. And so what

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happens now? Well, he's

Sal Rodriguez (06:03:26):
challenged, but he's not going for it. You know,
he doesn't want to do it. He maythink he knows how to do it. But
here he is in a foreign countrywhat and this is only what eight
months later after the allValley so he may not even be 18
yet we don't know when Hisbirthday is. So here he is a
very young man or olderteenager, here on this island,
being challenged by theseAmerican GI guys to do something

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ridiculous. So yeah, he may havehad his opinions on how it
should be done that he sharedthat with Kumiko on how he
should use the hips and allthat. But he doesn't want to do
it. And so he's like, I'm out ofhere. And he wants to get out of
there. And who arrives whoarrives of course chose,

Jason Connell (06:04:05):
of course. And he doesn't just arrive style. He's
fully dressed in street clothes.
It wasn't two minutes earlierthat he was taking on four
attackers at Santos dojo, and hewas in his full Gi. And so now
we led to believe that hechanged, it looks like he

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showered. And he did all thatand got over here in two minutes
and happy to know thatsomething's going on. And Daniel
is here, another irell from me.
Now wait, as you're starting tomount these are starting to
mount.

Sal Rodriguez (06:04:40):
I think it's entirely possible that there was
more time elapsed between themseeing chosen in the dojo, and
then this icebreaking happen.
There was more time that elapsedthere, which I don't think the
movie properly displayed. Ithink that they should have
maybe added another scene or weshould have seen the clock or
something. Because if youremember as the scene
progresses, who else arrives?

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Everyone arrives?

Jason Connell (06:05:02):
I will get to that. I know. But I still feel
even if that's the case, even ifyou're right. I wish we had
established it. I wish we hadcut to Miyagi and Uta and then
cut back. I wish we had cut tosomeone running to chosen and
the locker room and saying, youknow, blah, blah, blah, Daniels

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over there doing this. I justwish there would have been
because these are the momentsthat I just can't stand when
things just don't make sense.
Now maybe there was a scene cut,you know could have happened.

Sal Rodriguez (06:05:35):
Toshio sees them as soon as Kumiko and Daniel
walk into the bar. Toshio,remember one of the thugs sees
them. And he Yeah, he runs out.
And he goes to get chosen. I canonly imagine that it's entirely
possible that if there wasn't alot of time elapsed, then chosen
wears his clothes under his GI.

Jason Connell (06:05:53):
Or just comes in and his GI. You know, I'm cool
with that.

Sal Rodriguez (06:05:58):
Maybe chosen even thinks that that would be
disrespectful to the game. Maybe

Jason Connell (06:06:02):
we didn't do it earlier in this film either. So
maybe there's something to besaid for that.

Sal Rodriguez (06:06:06):
Yeah. I mean, you're not supposed to walk
around in your gear, or, youknow, you don't see people

Jason Connell (06:06:10):
walking around their GI. But if he had to go
over there so quickly, thatwould make more sense. Anyway,
but literally, not 10 secondslater, Mr. Miyagi and UK are now
here, and give it a beat Sal,and out of nowhere, here, Sato.
So I have no idea how on earth,everybody knew something was

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brewing. And Daniel had gothimself in yet another pickle.

Sal Rodriguez (06:06:41):
Yeah, it's such an interesting convergence that
there's the village over there.
Here they are in the city. Andyet everybody, everybody shows
up. Everybody shows a

Jason Connell (06:06:49):
small is the city. There's sata stojo.
There's some TVs for sale at thestore. And then there's the
place where the GI saying yeah,that's it. It's all up there. If
you're not at one year at one ofthe others. So anyway, so now
the bet is on. It's $600 to hitthrough six sheets of ice. And
so I believe six is the max thatthis can hold. Am I mistaken?

Sal Rodriguez (06:07:13):
It looked pretty full. Yeah, I think that this
only holds up to six, then theseguys are trying to do three. And
now here's Daniel trying to dosix.

Jason Connell (06:07:22):
Now Mr. Miyagi gives some classic Miyagi
advice. And what does he say? So

Sal Rodriguez (06:07:28):
he tells Daniel, to focus, and Daniel says, and
what are you going to do? Pray.

Jason Connell (06:07:34):
And thus begins the breathing technique. From
the beginning of the film. Thisis where

Sal Rodriguez (06:07:41):
you see that everything that Daniel learns
from Miyagi ends up being afight technique, or that he can
employ it. In his fighttechniques,

Jason Connell (06:07:53):
Sato oversees the breathing technique and
recognizes it, because Miyagi isdoing it and Daniels alongside
so he's getting him in the rightstate of mind. And this leads to
Daniel, who's never done thisbefore. By the way, it's not
like he got one shot at these.
No, he got the right state ofmind. And he hit it claim and
broke the first one, like yousaid, and succeeds. And what

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happens after that.

Sal Rodriguez (06:08:21):
So Daniel is successful at giving a karate
chop to these slats of ice.
Everybody's excited. They wonthe bet. They walk over to to
Sato sitting there I think in astate of shock, chosen doesn't
want to give him the money. Satomakes chosen give them the
money, they walk out and leavehim behind chosen very pissed
off about losing so much money.

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And Sato they're in a state ofshock sitting there at the bar.

Unknown (06:08:48):
Exactly.

Jason Connell (06:08:49):
And so they walk out and Miyagi gives Daniel half
the money and says, you know,this is for college because he
spent around $300 on the planeticket, and they're gonna go off
for some Chinese food. So yetagain, chosen loses that battle,
but yet, we're still in themourning period. So Sato is

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standing down at this point intime. So now we're at the dojo
and Miyagi plays a prank onDaniel and fake hits him and the
growing and calls it What Sal

Sal Rodriguez (06:09:22):
primary target,

Jason Connell (06:09:23):
primary target.
And he got a real kick out ofthis moment, which I thought was
hilarious. Although this is someforeshadowing, so remember that.
Remember that

Sal Rodriguez (06:09:34):
every time Miyagi teaches you something, you're
gonna have to use it later.

Jason Connell (06:09:37):
Every time every time and then can we go brings
Daniel some dance clothes, whichis amazing that she has the
presence of mind to either makeor find or has access to dance
clothes, and sell Have you everworn dance clothes like this? Do

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you have any dance clothes?

Sal Rodriguez (06:10:00):
Well, no, because I don't think at this moment in
time. We know that this is goingto be 1950s dance right now when
flyer boy Brad Wong brought theflyer to Kumiko and Daniel he
just said come to the dancetonight. So she made him special
1950s apparel for tonight'sdance. She's no no, no, I've
never had any. Nobody made meclothes. I never had any special

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clothes to wear to the dance.
No. So

Jason Connell (06:10:25):
the next thing we hear, of course, is chosen,
calling for Mr. Miyagi. And thenhe and his thug friends destroy
one of the gardens.

Sal Rodriguez (06:10:37):
Well, because he says my uncle told me to come
pick you up. Your three days ofmourning are over. Right. And
then of course, Miyagi says I'mnot gonna go fight your uncle.
So then that's when chosen goes,Okay, fine, and then they start
to destroy the garden that'schosen and Toshio and anyway the
third guy.

Jason Connell (06:10:55):
Yeah, thug number three. Step number three. So
Miyagi does decide to go visitSato at his beautiful home and
garden. And Sato is wearing aghee with a red belt, which gave
me pause for a moment, Sal,because in my martial arts and

(06:11:17):
have Quito, or I train atAmerican hapkido karate, the
belts go is such white, orange,yellow, green, blue, brown, red,
black, and then their seconddegree black, third degree
black, and up from there. Mymaster, for instance, is an
eighth degree black belt, so tosee Sato who we know to be, you

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know, renowned and a master inhis own right. I didn't
understand why he was a redbelt. So I went online, I
researched it. And here's what Ifound out. A red belt is one of
several colored belts used insome martial arts to either
denote rank or differentiateopponents and a competition. And

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some schools, especially thosewith lineage related to judo, a
red belt signifies ninth or 10thdegree Dan rank, the highest
rank attainable, so SOCO mustfall into that, because he's
obviously reached the pinnacle,I would say,

Sal Rodriguez (06:12:21):
Well, I was so wrapped up in him hitting an
inanimate piece of wood that Iactually didn't notice his belt.
Now I know you might havenoticed his belt, because you
recently obtained a higher beltin hapkido. Is that true? I did.
And thank you go ahead and giveus a humble brag. So you went
up? No, no, no, no. So whatbelt? Were you and where are you

(06:12:42):
at now.

Jason Connell (06:12:43):
So I will tell you and the reason I'm excited
by this is because as you know,when I got involved with Cobra
Kai and wanting to do thispodcast, it tapped into what was
missing something that wasmissing in my life. And that was
martial arts. And I got backinto it and found the new dojo
and kind of started this journeyagain to pick up where I left

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off and go much further. I hope.
So I was a white belt in thebeginning, and I tested and
became an orange belt severalmonths ago, but I recently
tested again, and I'm now ayellow belt. So I've gone white,
orange, yellow.

Sal Rodriguez (06:13:20):
Is there a red belt in your future? Or is it
only get up to the ninth degreeblack belts?

Jason Connell (06:13:25):
Oh, no. I mentioned the red. Yeah, red is
right before Black Belt.

Sal Rodriguez (06:13:29):
Oh, okay. So you will hit red but not that
ultimate red that Sato wears noonce

Jason Connell (06:13:34):
you hit the red it's right before the black and
then it's black from then onout.

Sal Rodriguez (06:13:38):
Okay, I never knew about the red belt before
tonight. I never knew about it.
And by the way, congratulationson your recent belt of yellow
belt and I look forward toseeing your thank you continued
advancement. So okay, so Sato ishitting this wood. Miyagi
approach Assam tries to reasonwith him he asked about the wood
he asked Is this the wood thatwe found that one time and then

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saw two answers same What do youwant and Miyagi wants to reason
with him? Sato is not having itwalks away. And I forgot what
happens when he walks away herebut Sato is not going for the
reasoning of Miyagi. And then hewalks away and then Miyagi is
left standing there, kind ofcaressing the wood. I think

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going back in time probablythinking of the lighter days,
the fonder days of when theywere kids, and when they found
this piece of wood, but yeah,the scene ends with Miyagi, just
kind of there alone with thepiece of wood.

Jason Connell (06:14:31):
So Sal Sato had chosen go and get Miyagi to
bring him to him to fight to thedeath. Miyagi chose to show up
on his own, there he is, his onSantos property, how come he did

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not fight him to the death righthere and now?

Sal Rodriguez (06:14:54):
I think Sato must realize that he came for other
purposes, and didn't come tofight. He has the sixth sense,
you know, when someone isthreatening toward you, or you
know, when someone is fearful ofyou, me, he's not like that in
this moment. So I think that itwas just his fighter sense, his
martial arts Sixth Sense, whichled them to realize that Miyagi

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is not there to fight but yeah,you're right. I hadn't thought
about that. That was right onthe coattails of chosen being
sent over to go get Miyagi andnow yeah, a beat or two later
Miyagi shows up so yeah, thatshould have been sought dos que
but yet it wasn't. That'scorrect.

Jason Connell (06:15:29):
Maybe Sato dislikes a crowd or he's got to
be in a fighting mood, you know,and he was ready that one day
and then Miyagi his fatherpassed and so he just wasn't
feeling it and maybe he took hisfor striations out on that
moment on that wood, which heprobably thought was a Yagi, and
maybe he was not as angry afterworking out some of that

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tension. But yeah, it just seemslike they're meandering around.
It's like, there's always areason why they're not going to
blows and that and that themecontinues in this whole movie
yet, maybe another eye roll forme. But that's just kind of how
it goes. So he leaves. You'reright, Santa walks away, and
he's left. And so now Daniel andKumiko are at the dance. And as

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we've already talked about, itis a glorified sock hop.
Something right out of the 50s.

Sal Rodriguez (06:16:21):
Yeah, so they're at the dance. And this is where
we get into some more cooltrivia. I would call it a triple
whammy with happy days. Thetelevision show happy day. Oh,
yeah. Because not only is thesong rock around the clock that
was playing at this dance thatDaniel and Kumiko are at. Rock
Around the Clock was the themesong for the television show
happy days. Now. Noriyuki PatMorita, who plays Mr. Miyagi,

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had a role as Arnold. He was on26 episodes from 1975 to 1983.
And here's the third whammy forHappy Days in the last time,
Nobu McCarthy, who plays UKplayed Momo Arnold's fiance.
Remember that's the role thatPat Morita played on Happy Days

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in 1976. So that's a triplehappy days time

Jason Connell (06:17:10):
went UPA played his fiancee,

Sal Rodriguez (06:17:13):
Yuki a played Momo, on an episode of Happy
Days. Momo was Arnold's fiance,on an episode in 1976. That's

Jason Connell (06:17:22):
right. That's awesome. I did not know that.
That's really cool.

Sal Rodriguez (06:17:26):
I find it all I bring that information to you.

Jason Connell (06:17:28):
Thank you, sir.
So back to the dance. It's funnyhow Daniel was very reluctant to
dance earlier with Kimiko andthen picked it up in other
traditional dance and enjoyed itand had some fun with it. But I
had no idea Sal, that Danielcould do this 50s dance. And he
was out there strutting hisstuff. And apparently, he

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learned all this from hismother, which is hilarious.

Sal Rodriguez (06:17:56):
He did a really great job at the sock cop. And I
gotta tell you, as soon as hewalks into the dance, I started
having PTSD going back to theHalloween dance. That was only
nine months earlier.

Jason Connell (06:18:07):
Right? Good point.

Sal Rodriguez (06:18:09):
I cannot relax in this in the scene yet.

Jason Connell (06:18:12):
So anytime in this entire film, we're having a
good moment. It is quicklyfollowed up by an appearance
from chosen and true to formchosen and his thug friends
arrive at the dance.

Sal Rodriguez (06:18:28):
Yeah, chosen is the ultimate cock blocker in
human form.

Jason Connell (06:18:33):
Yeah, absolutely is. And what happens next Now,

Sal Rodriguez (06:18:38):
Daniel gets roughed up, chosen takes Daniels
money which chosen believes ishis money just from losing the
bet. Please steal the moneyreturns the wallet, drop it on
the ground. So while Daniel iskneeled down, grabbing his own
wallet. That's where heremembers primary target. And at
this moment, one of the thugshas Kumiko in a rear will be

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called a rear choke. So whileDaniels down there remember his
primary target and puncheschosen? Right in the family
jewels?

Jason Connell (06:19:09):
Yes, the family jewels. So yeah, I think Kimiko
is kind of an A Johnny Lawrencehold of which Chris had even
earlier in the film, if I'm notmistaken.

Sal Rodriguez (06:19:20):
Yeah, it would almost be a rear naked choke. I
don't know if we're naked chokehas to do with the leg wrap
around to I think if you justget somebody with a neck choke
from the back, it's I think it'scalled a rear naked choke.

Jason Connell (06:19:30):
So yet another sequence that never gets too out
of hand, although Daniel didtake a hit, but he gave a hit
back. And they escape. And hegot his money back. So later
that night, Sato and chosen andpals. They arrive at the village
and they're summoning Mr.
Miyagi. Who's not there? By theway, right? He's not there at

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this point in time.

Sal Rodriguez (06:19:53):
Yeah, Daniel settling in for the night. He's
like, ready to hit the hay.
Yeah, and then that's when youhear yogi. Yogi come out. We
argue. We fight now,

Jason Connell (06:20:05):
because Saturn is to fight at midnight. You cannot
find

Sal Rodriguez (06:20:09):
such a such an odd time to fight someone. Yeah.

Jason Connell (06:20:12):
And so he leaves but then chosen and thugs began
to destroy the dojo and Bondseyes while holding Daniel. Want
to jump

Sal Rodriguez (06:20:24):
ahead, if I may.
Yeah, please. This is why it wasso painful in Cobra Kai. So
painful for Daniel to see thedestruction of the Miyagi dough
dojo, because he was havingflashbacks to the Miyagi family
Dojo being destroyed. RoydonOkinawa yeah now I get it now I
get it.

Jason Connell (06:20:45):
Are the dojo being destroyed in Karate Kid
three but we'll save that onefor oh my

Sal Rodriguez (06:20:49):
god okay so so karate dojo is getting destroyed
is just is now embedded inDaniel psyche and I could only
imagine he has PTSD I know I do.
So just seen rule number one.
And rule number two beingspeared by chosen as he laughs
You know these guys thesevillains in these movies. It's

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one thing to do evil it's onething to laugh as you do evil
and that's what Chosun does. Sohe's they're laughing and
smiling having a great timebeing destructive because Sato
told him leave them a messageand that's what they're doing.
They're leaving a message.

Jason Connell (06:21:23):
Exactly. And luckily, Mr. Miyagi arrives. And
Sal, this is a pretty good fightsequence.

Sal Rodriguez (06:21:33):
It is well, Miyagi arrives says enough,
there's some wonderful musicperfectly in sync with that.
Toro and Toshio are dispatchedby Miyagi pretty quickly chosen
is also subdued, but is sparedby Miyagi and of course chosen
he calls it act of coward, to bespared by Miyagi. And also

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apparently there was one momentI read some more trivia, that
that moment when chosen does hitMiyagi on the back with that
spear is the only time in KarateKid folklore when Miyagi is
struck, was right there withthat stick by chosen Oh,

Jason Connell (06:22:09):
that's interesting. So but also during
this whole sequence, Daniel isnot able to help he's been held
off and then he never reallygets involved. So Miyagi best
all three of them. And it's in areally neat setting though,
because it's in the garden andthey're using like a walkway.
And then there's this one staffthat has a spear on the end of
it. And I didn't notice anystunt doubles. So it really

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looked like it was Mr. Miyagidoing his own stunts.

Sal Rodriguez (06:22:35):
Yeah, I was pretty impressed. I would
imagine by this time, our actorshave had plenty of time to
train. And I would say overall,I was pretty impressed by
Noriyuki. Pat, I say I alwayswant to say Noriyuki that's what
he's officially born as Noriyukiand then he still uses it later
on up until his death. SoNoriyuki Pat Morita had plenty
of time to train for this. And Iwas pretty impressed by some of
his kicks, some of his swiftbackhands and yeah, this is a

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very interesting setting, andDaniel couldn't do much he was
kind of subdued. But all therest of these guys got taken out
by Miyagi. But one thing I foundpretty interesting is that at
the end of the fight, Daniel andMiyagi retreat inside back into
Miyagi his home, chosen kicksover a statue, right? So really,

(06:23:19):
the guys are still out there.
And you just walked back in itwas at the end of it. I mean,
these guys just gonna go homenow. I mean, I just didn't
really see that that would bethe end of it. If these guys are
still right outside your home,which doesn't seem to have real
high security. Miyagi says toDaniel, that they're gonna go
home tomorrow. So at this pointin time, we're assuming you know
what, this is the end of it.
They're finally gonna go homeand be out of this mess.

Jason Connell (06:23:40):
Exactly. And then Miyagi talks with UPA, and it's
another touching scene becauseshe asked him to take her with
him.

Sal Rodriguez (06:23:49):
Yeah, Miyagi, ask, What can I do to ease your
pain and UK answers Take me withyou. I mean, whole. If this
woman doesn't love Miyagi, Idon't know what love is. I mean,
look how long she's held on tothis. But yeah, Daniel's packing
his suitcase, looks outside seesKumiko standing lonesome on the
pier, she's doing a sort ofceremony. He heads out, that's

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when he hears Miyagi and UPAsaying their goodbyes UK is
crying. Daniel approachesKumiko. On the piers, she's
doing an old fishing custompouring rice into the water for
a quick return. Because that'swhat Daniel asked was, Oh, are
you doing that for a big catch?
She goes, No for a quick return.
So we know that at that momentthat she's doing a special

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ceremony for a quick return ofDaniel and possibly Miyagi. They
have a wonderful moment theytalk about America, she asked
about America, he tells herabout America. He professes his
love for her. So this is wherewe officially see Daniel
professing his love for Kumikoin this scene, and then just as
they're about to cry

Jason Connell (06:24:52):
before that, I think this would have been a
good time to play Peter Suterasong one more time,

Sal Rodriguez (06:24:58):
like a shot and shot a long time ago. Yeah,
yeah, you're right.

Jason Connell (06:25:04):
He's also trying to recruit her to to live in the
US to come over. And you know,she's taking this in. There's no
dance studios there sounds likean interesting idea. But as
you're getting ready to say, andyes, true to form. It's not
chosen this time. But it isSato.

Sal Rodriguez (06:25:24):
Yeah, big ruckus behind them construction
equipment coming through behindthem in the village. So they get
up leap up from the pier wherethey're having this romantic
moment, and then head back tosee what's going on and they see
this bulldozer running through agarden is all these villagers
are standing there and horrorand Miyagi approaches Sato
Cassatt still standing there.
What are you doing? And Satosays he sold all the land. I

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don't know if he said he soldthe land or he's going to sell
the land.

Jason Connell (06:25:49):
Basically he owns the land so he can do whatever
he wants and he's going todestroy the village.

Sal Rodriguez (06:25:54):
Yeah, well, he threatens to destroy the village
if Miyagi will not fight him. Sofinally, Miyagi, kind of feeling
forced and pressured, agrees tofight. Sato on one condition
that the title to the landpassed to the village forever.
And Sato reluctantly agrees, butwarns that if Miyagi doesn't

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fight, the village will becompletely destroyed, everything
will be gone, their homes, theirchurch, everything gone. So
Miyagi knows that he has nochoice. He has to stand and
fight

Jason Connell (06:26:28):
now, I sat is really an angry person. And
what's interesting is this wholething stems from UTA not
following through to Mary Satobecause her Miyagi had feeling
so Miyagi fleas. So Sal, correctme if I'm wrong here. But with

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Miyagi out of the picture, Satohad 40 years to woo Yuki or any
other woman because he doesn'tseem to be with anybody. And he
has failed. So maybe a lot ofhis hatred is inward, Sato is
carrying around a ton of baggageand taking it all out on Mr.

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Miyagi.

Sal Rodriguez (06:27:14):
While Sato has no game apparently not okay.
Because he Okay, so at one pointin time, he was promised to
marry Yuki she was promised tomarry him. So once Miyagi was
out of the picture, then yeah,Sato could have made his move.
And if not immediately, at leastwithin a couple of years, been
able to finally marry UPA, butya know, he didn't maybe he was

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just too focused on building hisbusiness empire and romance was
not a part of it. So that's whatobviously happened

Jason Connell (06:27:42):
but this hatred burns like this happened
recently. It's amazing thatsomeone is this upset now
listen, I'm not that familiarwith the Japanese culture and,
and maybe, you know, this is hispride was forever scorned, was
Sato and UK and arrangedmarriage is that what I'm led to
believe?

Sal Rodriguez (06:28:02):
It was an arranged marriage because if you
remember, Mr. Miyagi toldDaniel, that Suttles family was
richest and village that'sright, UK family poorest and
village. So it made sense. Soyeah, they were an arranged
marriage. And if you rememberalso, when Daniel and Kumiko sat
down at the sock hop, he askedif she was arranged to be

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married to anyone. Remember, sheasked, I thought that was cute.
She asked him, Are you arrangedto be married to anybody? And
that's when he says, No, I'm afree agent. So yes, this is
ancient history you This isunknown to the topic, but the
concept of dating, as weAmericans know as dating is new
in human history. Nobody dated,nobody dated 1000 years ago,

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they were they were set up byfamilies 1000 years ago, or you
didn't get together withanybody. So this whole thing is
dating is new. You aredefinitely set up by families
back in the old days, and thisis as far back then as 45 years
in Okinawa.

Jason Connell (06:28:56):
So that would lead me to ask this Miyagi
leaves didn't work out with UPA,maybe she sought her true
failings and no longer wanted tobe part of this arranged
marriage. But with thisincredibly powerful, influential
and rich family of Santos, howdoes someone not arrange another

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marriage for him?

Sal Rodriguez (06:29:18):
Yeah. And why would Satoshis family arrange a
marriage with Yuki A's poorfamily? What What would they
have to gain from that? So yeah,if you dig into it, it probably
doesn't make as much sense as,as it should. Because I believe
in the old days of arrangedmarriages, a rich family would
try to arrange a marriage withanother rich family, not a poor

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family. So I don't think yeah,in that respect, it doesn't make
sense. So the arrangement makessense, but as far as the
families doesn't really makesense. So I'm thinking then,
that if Sato coming from a richfamily was going to be arranged
with UK coming from a poorfamily, he really loved UK. So
that's why this anger burned for45 years, but I think that he

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should have let that anger heshould have used that anger to
win over UPA instead of beingpissed off hitting a piece of
wood and thinking of Miyagi for45 years Yeah,

Jason Connell (06:30:11):
and it might have made more sense in the storyline
had Sato and Yuki a married theywed let's just say, but it was
never they never had the sparksbecause I'm sure a lot of
arranged marriages just kind ofhit a certain threshold and they
don't because they weren't builton a mutual attraction
admiration. Maybe some of themturned into that but others

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probably didn't. They didn't hitthose high notes. And let's just
say that they were married andMiyagi came into town, due to
his father's health and Sato sawthat they had something he
didn't have. And now it almostmake more sense to me why Sato
has this anger in him, andjealousy, but that would then

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paint Miyagi in a differentlight. And I think that it's
more innocent to have UK be thesingle person. But trust me,
I've had time to think about it.
I've watched this film twicerecently, preparing for this
episode. And another plot pointI have a little bit of issue
with, and is why I look at thismovie is the best of the
sequels. But it just falls shorton many occasions, in my

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opinion.

Sal Rodriguez (06:31:19):
Yeah. No, no, I agree. I agree. I think that
that would have made sense. Butthe problem is, though, you then
wouldn't have been able to havethese tender moments between
Miyagi and UPA if she wasmarried to Sato? I don't think
so.

Jason Connell (06:31:32):
And we argue it looked like a bad guy. He would
look like homewrecker. I totallyget it. You can't have that

Sal Rodriguez (06:31:39):
he would have been twice, Homewrecker, then,
if that's the case, remember,Miyagi left Okinawa in shame. He
broke tradition. He brokeculture. He embarrassed
everyone. So Miyagi left Okinawaon bad terms. And I think that
if he were to then go back, andthen get involved in a marriage
that was current with Sato andYukia Yeah, that wouldn't have

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been looks good on Miyagi. No.

Jason Connell (06:32:01):
So anyway, just ref in there, but things I've
thought about and things I haveissues with. So now we get to
Mr. Miyagi, and he's givingDaniel his last will and
testament. He's getting hisaffairs in order, so to speak,
Sal, and what does he giveDaniel and his will?

Sal Rodriguez (06:32:20):
So he gives Daniel, the house in Canoga
Park, and the truck, the 1941,light duty Chevrolet, but of
course, Daniels, like I don'twant the house in the truck I
want you know, let's just getout of here Daniels trying to
convince them, let's just hop ona plane and get the hell out of
here. Forget about it. Forgetabout this. Honor garbage. But
Miyagi says it is impossible.
But Miyagi says no matter whathappens, the village is safe

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forever. So at this moment intime, Miyagi stuck, if he
leaves, the village getsdestroyed. If he stays in a
fight, he may die. He is screwedeither way. You know, sometimes
in life, I talk about this withfriends all the time. Sometimes
in life, you have two badchoices, and you got to choose
between two bad choices. Hell,you can say a lot of our

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elections are this way. So yougot to choose between two bad
choices. So no matter what,they're both bad choices, but at
least he knows the village issafe, no matter what he does

Jason Connell (06:33:14):
want a guy like Mr. Miyagi, and maybe the
Japanese culture as a whole todie of honor is not a bad way to
go out. And now and he knowswinning or losing saves the
village. So he's at peace withthat, I would say, that's why he
stepped up to fight him finally,to end this only to save the
village forever, no matter whathappens. And unless that's kind

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of big of him, but there's noway Miyagi is gonna back out now
is what I'm trying to say. No,no, he may have bailed earlier,
if there was no reason to fight,but now there's a reason to
fight. But my last point on thewill, my question to you is,
what about all the other classiccars? I mean, not the one that
Daniel owns, but there's threeothers is, is that part of the
will?

Sal Rodriguez (06:33:58):
Yeah, they kind of left that out in this movie.
I think that they appear again,in credit cut three. But yeah,
the cars are not there in karatecut two, I think we only have to
assume now, obviously, to thenewcomer, they would not know
about these other cars. But forthose of you familiar with the
franchise and longtime fans, youknow, there was a collection of
cars in the first movie. Whereis that collection of cars in

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the second movie? And yeah,Daniel should be hitting all
those cars, too. Unless ofcourse, for all we know, Mr.
Miyagi, left those cars to thePeterson on Wilshire,

Jason Connell (06:34:28):
maybe he left them to the Peterson Automobile
Museum, which, by the way, is anincredible place and should be
visited by all but maybe he willthem to someone else. Someone
else from the seven seas orsomeone else in the Auggies life
of what you perhaps who we'venever met, we'll never know.

Sal Rodriguez (06:34:47):
Yeah, I mean, why should Daniel get everything?
Surely there are some people,some nice people, hell, maybe
the mailman gets a car, youknow, there are some nice people
in Miyagi world who may bedeserved something. So the
dental doesn't necessarily needto get everything hell, a house
in a car is plenty to carsactually. Right? He would get
the truck and the car that hasalready been given. So Miyagi
will at that point, given himtwo cars and a house. I think

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he's good. Anything else can goto any other beloved ones are
great.

Jason Connell (06:35:14):
So now we see Daniel walking around the
village. And he sees Sato Prain.
And Sal, he looks quite scaryand focused in the same.

Sal Rodriguez (06:35:25):
Well, I did like the scene that we get to see
another side of Sato but Iwasn't certain what was actually
taking place. Was he just goingabout his normal daily ritual?
Or was he literally preparingmentally for the upcoming fight?
Is that what he what do you sawhim doing?

Jason Connell (06:35:40):
That's what I thought. Wow. How you get your
game face on? He's getting intoit.

Sal Rodriguez (06:35:45):
Okay? So this is at the Shinto temple, where Isha
row was playing the instrumentfor all the kids. So this is a
center point of the village,which becomes even more
important soon. So yeah, that'swhere Daniel sees Sato. They're
in the Shinto Temple, which Iwas vitally very surprised to
see, I was very surprised to seehim in there. But yeah, he's in
there, then getting his, uh, hisgears ready, revving up for his

(06:36:09):
fight. And so yeah, at thispoint, it makes it even scarier
than at that point. Yeah. And Iknow from playing

Jason Connell (06:36:13):
sports for my entire life, yeah, you kind of,
well, I don't usually fight tothe death in anything. But I do
know what it's like to getfocused. And you lock in and you
visualize, and I'm sure this guyis doing that. And you almost
play out whatever battle you'regoing to participate in. You try
to play it out mentally beforeyou actually physically do it. I

(06:36:35):
find it incredibly valuable. AndI'm sure someone have sought to
his skill level and hisexperience in the martial arts.
It's just gonna get him lockedand loaded. And yeah, and
honestly, I know that we bothpredict Miyagi could win, I
would still have my doubts,because someone is skilled as

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Sato is not someone you want togo up against, and a fight to
the death in a match with pointsand Okay, sure. But these are
high stakes. And that was onecool thing the movie had going
for it. I think it was the highstakes. It created some anxiety
in me. We're all worried for Mr.
Miyagi. And Sato looksunbeatable in many senses. So

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now Daniel walks away from Satoand he stumbles into his very
own tea ceremony with Kimiko.
And Sal, this is such a greatscene. And it was just really
touching, like so many others.
And this film,

Sal Rodriguez (06:37:38):
one of the things I really liked about this movie
is the romance factor, which Ithink is greater than the first
one with Daniel and Ali. Oh,yeah, there's such a romantic
air about this film, both withMiyagi and UK but now with
Daniel and Kumiko. I think thatthis scene here in the Canary
with the Japanese tea ceremony,rivals, the clay sculpting scene

(06:38:02):
in Ghost, as far as cinematicromantic moments that just make
you nearly cry. So there'sKumiko inside with the tea
ceremony all set up, Danielenters kneels at the table, he
tries to crack a joke is thisseat taken? Kumiko is
disappointed at the tip. I don'tknow if she disappointed that
the joke was so bad, or that hecracked a joke in general. But

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she looks very disappointed athis attempt at a joke. Daniel
apologizes, the tea ceremonycontinues. Now here's one thing
I definitely learned when Ivisited Japan. And this is why I
love Japan so much. One of thereasons is because everything
has a purpose and a point. Andeverything is specific and
deliberate and has a meaning.
There's no haphazardness theregoing on each movement, and this

(06:38:47):
tea ceremony by komikko isspecific and deliberate. Daniel
drinks the tea prepared byKumiko, she removes the stick
that holds up her hair, theyboth lean in. I'm loving this
scene so much they both lean in.
And then again, not chosen thistime. Candle blows out, boom

(06:39:08):
storm, they both got a rush outof there. So it's almost a cock
block. But instead of chosenthis time, it's a storm. Right
as they're having their firstreal romantic kiss. Coming out
of a fantastically beautifulscene.

Jason Connell (06:39:20):
It was a beautiful, same as we've both
attested to, and this movie, andyou spoke to it. So I have to
chime in. It did get the romanceright. And really adult themes.
It really did. And that's wherethe movie succeeds, as well as
the high stakes. And in thismovie, wow. Miyagi can be hurt

(06:39:42):
emotionally, and he could die.
And so that's where this moviesucceeds. And then all the
wonderful romance and falling inlove and courtship, if you will,
which the first movie had ithad, it was different. You know,
it was new kid rich girl, arethey going to work? Is it going
to mix? It worked for what itneeded to be, but that's where

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this movie succeeds. And if Ihad gotten some of the other
things right, are smoothed outsome of the things and maybe
there's just scenes that wereomitted. So to me, it feels like
they're bigger gaffes. You know,in my opinion, it could be even
higher rated. But this is one ofthose great scenes. I think it's
a bit of an homage to 16candles, when Jake Ryan kisses

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Samantha, over the birthday cakeand the candles at the very end
of the movie. I'm thinking aboutmoment, and then you're right,
and not one second and maybe twoseconds. And then here comes the
storm and The storm is like it'snot even sprinkling. It's
already on a full blown storm.

(06:40:48):
Like ridiculous hide the kidstake cover. We've got a monsoon
or hurricane on our hands,

Sal Rodriguez (06:40:56):
while Fumiko and Daniel run out of the cannery
run toward the village. Yeah,it's almost like they were not
in the loop because by the timethey run it back to the village,
and that little girl is up onthe bell tower ringing the
warning bell. Everyone else isalready was piling into the
shelter, bringing luggagebringing some prized
possessions. How come Daniel andFumiko were out of the loop this

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whole time, but they obviouslywere, so they kind of arrive
late in the game, the bellsgoing off, the storms come and
people are running into theshelter, we see Miyagi and UPA
running into the shelter. Sothat little girls up there on
the post ringing the warningbell, and Daniel and Kumiko run
into Miyagi and UK, they all gointo the shelter. They look

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outside, see a woman carrying ababy. Now that kid, look at the
scene again, that kid isfantastic, because they really
seem to be doing all the specialeffects as far as the practical
effects with the wind and therain, but they look outside see
this woman carrying the baby,they go back out to help. And as
they do they see the Shintotemple crumble. And remember,

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that's where we saw Sato. So forall we know, Sato is under the
rubble of that Shinto church ortemple River.

Jason Connell (06:42:07):
Exactly. So now Sato is stuck. And when we say
storms come in, is it ahurricane? Our monsoon or
whatever it is, it's high windand rain, and destructive,

Sal Rodriguez (06:42:19):
you know, a hurricane or monsoon? Yeah,
thanks. Yeah,

Jason Connell (06:42:22):
one of the two.
And growing up in Oklahoma, wedealt with tornadoes. Oh, and I
dealt with one in particular,that was quite scary. I mean, he
killed neighbors. It hit ourproperty. We were very lucky to
live. And that's a story foranother day, but it's quite a
tale. It was an f5 on ourproperty. And it was terrifying.

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But it came out of nowhere. Itjust wasn't there. And then bam,
it was destructive. Littletornadoes are coming off the big
tornado. So I understand howsomething can just happen.

Sal Rodriguez (06:42:57):
Wait, wait, how much time you could talk in your
how much warning? Do you get aman that

Jason Connell (06:43:01):
thing was on us?
Maybe 20 seconds or 30 seconds.
Okay, that's not always thenight that it happened. It was
eerie. It's a certain time ofyear where the warmer weather
and the cooler weather kind ofmix. It's always in April in
May. And the skies just lookedreally creepy that night. So
maybe our warning was somethingfeels off. Our neighbor had

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horses and they were actingfunny about something and they
get a real sense of weather. Sobut that was on us very quickly.
And thank God, it just didn'thit us head on it map I would
have killed us. But I could seehow something happens so fast.
Not ever been in a hurricane ora monsoon. But it's very
destructive. As you can see, youbring high winds into play. And

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it just takes things down.

Sal Rodriguez (06:43:48):
I mean, what do I know? You know, I grew up in Los
Angeles. I know nothing aboutany of these things. But did you
have like a basement that you gointo or something?

Jason Connell (06:43:54):
No, at this point in time, we did have basements
boilers in Tulsa. But we hadleft Tulsa for about six years
and moved to outside of the citymore into the country and had 10
acres. And my parents built ahouse and so we'd left the
bigger city, bigger city,relatively speaking. But there
are no basements in this housethat we built. And only one of

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our neighbors had a stormcellar. So no, we did not. We
took refuge in the bathroom, acentralized room in our house
and discovered up and literallyprayed. And it lasted about a
minute and a half after we madeit and other people did as well.
Everyone got storm cellars. Sofor anytime it's sprinkled after

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that my sister and I took refugeand the storm cellar. Meanwhile,
we never had another tornadoincident but it just takes one
to forever scar you for years tocome. So you know, I totally get
it. I totally get that bam, it'son them. But this is a different
type of storm. A tornado is onething it can plop down and it

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moves in such an unpredictablepath. It just jumps up it skips
the house it goes five over sothis is a monsoon I'm assuming
these are super heavy winds. Andit's powerful enough to knock
over buildings and reallyflattened a village I mean
tornadoes flatten you knowcities. So anyway, so Sato is

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underneath the rubble. And so sowhat happens because as strong
and as tough as he is, he cannotget out on his own.

Sal Rodriguez (06:45:31):
So Daniel and Miyagi rush toward the temple as
chosen is headed the oppositeway. I think Miyagi says where's
your uncle and he says his uncleis dead. So we're going oh my
gosh, so, Sato is dead. Danieland Miyagi look toward the
temple. They see subtle all of asudden as gust of wind comes and
releases some debris. They seeSato and they rush over there.

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Sato is on his back under a beamof wood. I love this this moment
Cassatt toes laying there, underthis beam of wood, and he says,
Miyagi, now you come to fight,coward, he thinks Miyagi is
coming to kick his ass. Butinstead, Miyagi is coming to
rescue him along with Daniel.
Miyagi breaks the beam that'slaying over Santos, Jesse frees
him with a karate chop,

Jason Connell (06:46:17):
kind of like the wood that SATA was hitting at
his house.

Sal Rodriguez (06:46:20):
Yeah, very similar, reminiscent of that
word for sure. They all threerun back to the shelter, Daniel
looks back sees the girls stuckup in the bell tower. And he
orders them back as he headsover to help. Miyagi and Sato go
into the shelter. They seechosen, chosen says, uncle, I
thought you were dead, Satoorders chosen to go outside and

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help Daniel save the girl chosensays he cannot. And he heads
deeper into the shelter. So weknow that's a crucial moment
there, between Sato and chosen.

Jason Connell (06:46:52):
Absolutely. And just to speak on the scene,
because we haven't really talkedabout it from a filmmaking
standpoint. But this is a reallygreat scene. I mean, it's
terrifying. There's piecesmoving, it's high winds. I mean,
this is like the most elaboratesequence in any of the Karate
Kid movies.

Sal Rodriguez (06:47:13):
Well, you talk about the stakes, and I haven't
actually hadn't thought aboutthat. But yeah, you raise the
stakes. This is definitely lifeor death, which the original
movie did not really visit. Thisis life or death scenario
happening right here.

Jason Connell (06:47:24):
So this a great action sequence, you know, they
have debris blowing, and you cankind of see Sato and it was not
an easy thing to shoot. So Igive them credit. And I'd love
to see some behind the scenesfootage of, of just the making
of this sequence. Because it wasreally impressive to me,

Sal Rodriguez (06:47:43):
assuming it was all done with practical effects.
You had the wind machines, didthey actually film it at night?
Maybe they filmed that inside ofa studio. I mean, who knows?
Maybe it wasn't all exteriors, Iwould be interested to see how
they did that. I have not heardof any behind the scenes of
credit get to let alone thatparticular scene. But yeah, I
think that would be interestingto see how that was actually
done. See the big fans working,and see the rainmakers working,

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that would be interesting.

Jason Connell (06:48:07):
I'll have to get us the credit kid to DVD, like I
got us the original film on DVD,which had all these cool special
features. So there still is aplace for DVDs in this world
because you get content that isnot online, like special
features. And maybe it's onYouTube sometimes, but then the
quality is suspect. So we'llhave to look into that.

Sal Rodriguez (06:48:30):
I realized that a few years ago when I was
streaming content from YouTube,or rather from Netflix. And I
was saying, wait a second, thismovie doesn't have the behind
the scenes, like the DVD has,you're missing so much content,
if we're only doing streamingextremely exclusively, we're
missing all kinds of coolcontent, director's commentary,
special features. So Idefinitely do appreciate DVDs

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for that

Jason Connell (06:48:53):
you make a good point, because the commentaries
on films are kind of forgottenabout much like the special
features, but in particular, thecommentaries, and I wish that
some service like Audible, oreven Netflix had that as an
option. You want to do thecommentary, just click here, it
would cost hardly anything verysmall amount of bandwidth. I

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don't even have to see themovie. I just want to listen to
the audio. So that is a goodpoint. That's why DVDs will
still have a place in blu raysfor years to come and are until
you can stream everything. Soanyway. So you're right chosen
has shown his true colors. He'sa bully when he's got his crew.
But when asked to put his ownlife on the line, he cowers

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away, and hides in shame. SoDaniel is left on his own and
gets the girl comes down. She'stoo big for him to carry her. So
Sato who had just been saved byDaniel and Mr. Miyagi comes out
of the shelter and carries thegirl gives Daniel look or a

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smile. And they both you knowstruggle back in and take
shelter

Sal Rodriguez (06:50:06):
while Sato availed himself to go out there
because at first Miyagi wasgoing to go out there, right.
But then remember Santo says,Miyagi let me go so he offered
himself to go so he went upthere to help complete the task.
And yeah, Daniel, remember that?
That maneuver with the belt. SoDaniels up there on the belterra
with this little girl, there'slike some sparks coming off the
wires hit him hit the bell, andthen he took off his belt and

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like hit the wire to get thewire down. So he totally saved
this little girl's life. Shewould have been electrocuted.

Jason Connell (06:50:36):
And then it was great to see Sato who he wasn't
injured. He was stuck. So hestill had the strength and the
wherewithal to come out and helpcarry the little girl and help
Daniel in. And that was nicemoment. But meanwhile chosen is,
is stewing. But you kind of knownow things are different, right?

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It feels like triumphant, if youwill, I no longer felt like
there was going to be a fight tothe death. And sure enough, the
next day, which is a beautifulclear day, sunny, and Sato shows
up. And what happens now,

Sal Rodriguez (06:51:15):
Sato arrives in the Cadillac, and he's in his
work clothes, like we wouldnever we've only seen him in
these expensive suits. He comesin these like work clothes, like
he's working with FEMA. He goes,I come help rebuild. And he
gives here's the deed to thevillage he gives the deed to the
village to Miyagi, and he saysto me, Auggie forgive me, I beg
you. So he really humbleshimself, before Miyagi, because

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the night before was a realturning point, a huge turning
point for everybody in thecharacters. And the village
itself, Miyagi Pat's, him on theshoulder, there's nothing to
forgive, and Daniel esatto, ifthey can have the bond dance, or
they a bond dance at the castle.
Sato agrees. So not only doesthe deed get given back to the
people of the village, but theyget to have their celebration,

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and the bond dance at the castlewhere it belongs, where it
should be.

Jason Connell (06:52:06):
I totally agree.
It does belong there. It'swonderful to see Sato come to
his senses, and, and just forthe first time be more like a
human being in touch with hisfeelings and his friendship. My
only complaint would be that itjust happened so fast. You know,
it was 180. But I know it was abig traumatic thing the night

(06:52:27):
before. But I'm just shockedthat he couldn't see the
kindness and goodness in Miyagi,to come around sooner. But hey,
nonetheless, he's here. It'swonderful to see and all as well
in the village.

Sal Rodriguez (06:52:43):
Hang on, though, because you bring up a very good
point. Like I personally don'tnecessarily believe people can
do these 180 degree turns, letalone overnight, but I bring up
from a cinephile perspective. Ibring up a Christmas carol, one
of my favorite Christmas tales.
Ebenezer Scrooge did a 180 inone night. It was one night that
he does a 180. So if Ebony'swould have three acts, okay. But

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he was given truth syrup. He wasgiven a kick in the in the rear.
And that's what Sato had Satosaw. He saw the truth behind
chosen. He saw the truth behindMiyagi and Daniel, so he was
able to see the truth. He had alesson and then he was able to
do a 180 degree turn in onenight. Now, does that happen in

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real life? I don't know. Does ithappen in movies? Obviously, it
does.

Jason Connell (06:53:31):
Yeah. Well, he was just so angry, you know, had
he not been over the top, wenever even saw another side to
Sato. It's not like it startedat one and it grew to this 10.
Now he was always like, ready tokill, and total change. So I
think some of that, you know, itwas just a little bit. He didn't

(06:53:53):
even feel like a real person.
And all of a sudden, here he is.
He's a human being. And he's,he's got emotion. And he cares
about a city. So I kind ofdismissed him as the stuck.

Sal Rodriguez (06:54:03):
It's one of those things where a popular cinema
device is to allow the audienceto sympathize with the villain.
That's a prior I think thingdevice happening back in the
80s. I don't think we sympathizewith the villains yet. That
didn't come about till later. Sothe villains are kind of one
dimensional, until they'reeither killed, or have their

(06:54:27):
change of heart as EbenezerScrooge or Sato. Yeah. So I
think that these characters wereunfortunately a little bit ahead
of their time, where we didn'treally get to see. Wow, Ebenezer
Scrooge, we did get to see someof his youth. Yeah. But you know
what, now that you mentioned it,so we could have seen another
side of Sato Yeah. So that histurn becomes a little more
believable.

Jason Connell (06:54:45):
Flashbacks could have helped, because anything to
show me that he was a goodperson, rather than just hearing
about how they trained together.
They were friends. I needed tosee it. But I was thinking about
what movie have I seen thathappening? And interesting
enough, is the Rocky franchise.
Apollo Creed started as thevillain, right? Yeah. And

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through the movies, he becamefriends with Rocky. He trained
him in Rocky three. Heeventually dies. Spoiler alert,
he dies in Rocky four. And sothat was an interesting way to
take the villain and bring himin as one of the heroes. That
was an interesting thing. Thisis just done at a breakneck

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speed was Sato. And something'sdismissing. You know, if it's
timing, if it's some scenes thatwere cut, for whatever reason,
maybe they never shot them.
Maybe the script is more flushedout. And hey, we can't do that
we've got these special effectsin this movie. We've got a lot
going on, we have to focus onthese things. And I think

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there's this is something alittle false here and there and
this movie. That's all. I'mhappy to see him at this point.
Yeah, it's awesome that him andMiyagi can shake hands again,
and the village is saved. Andyeah, of course, it's wonderful.
So all that to say, it leads upto the village is going to have

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their huge celebration. And itlooks fantastic sell. It's well
orchestrated. It's supercolorful with these costumes and
music and dancing. And ofcourse, you have Kimiko there,
and she takes center stage. Andwhat does she do?

Sal Rodriguez (06:56:34):
She's getting ready to do a solo fan dance.
And she's a little nervous.
Daniel gives her encouragement.
And by the way, Daniel is in asweet, sweet red robe. Where did
this come from? We've never seenthis before. This is not a part
of the Miyagi family. Traditionis this sweet red robe that like
any self respecting pimpwoodware This is uh, who's the

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Playboy guy?

Jason Connell (06:56:58):
Hugh Hefner?

Sal Rodriguez (06:56:59):
Yeah, this is Hugh Hefner style rope. Where
did this come from?

Jason Connell (06:57:02):
Awesome. Did Kimiko also make this because
she's amazing.

Sal Rodriguez (06:57:06):
That would have been funny if she made the 50s
dance clothes. And this robe byhand.

Jason Connell (06:57:12):
Yeah, it's pretty cool. I'd like to have one. And
maybe there's a figure that youcan get with Daniel wearing
this.

Sal Rodriguez (06:57:19):
You know what, that would be an interesting
thing because the toy makershave explored the Karate Kid
universe, namely the originalmovie Karate Kid. They have not
really explored karate kid too.
Yeah, if they made it a DanielRusso action figure with this
red rope. I am buying it.

Jason Connell (06:57:35):
I'd also like to get Daniel on the blue talks
with the car all day.

Sal Rodriguez (06:57:41):
What if What if a Daniel Russo blue Tux action
figure actually came with thethe 1948 Super Deluxe? That
would be totally cool. Oh,

Jason Connell (06:57:51):
boy, the break off bumper. That's great. So
Kimiko is preparing for this islike the big number. Everything
is kind of leading to thismoment in the film. Everyone's
watching her all eyes on her. Sowhat happens now?

Sal Rodriguez (06:58:09):
Well, there she is. Kumiko looking fantastic and
beautiful beginning her solodance. starts the dance opens up
a fan As is the tradition. Verysoon. We see chosen sliding in
behind Kumiko on an overheadwire sliding in on this thing. I
like ziplining in. Yes, exactly.
Exactly. He puts a butterflyknife and it's definitely a

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butterfly knife because I usedto have one myself, puts a
butterfly knife to cubiclesneck, threatening her life. He
challenges Daniel. Miyagi tellsDaniel it's not a tournament.
It's for real. He's letting himknow. There's no points here.
There's no referee here. Danielwalks over chosen says no
bridge. So Daniel kicks away thebamboo bridge. Chosen throws
away the knife and throws awayKumiko. And now it's Daniel

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unchosen facing off.

Jason Connell (06:58:59):
So Kimiko was doing her dance on the stage.
But there's kind of like thishuge moat around it, if you
will. It's a big drop off. Andthere's a little bit of bridge
and everyone's sitting, youknow, and like auditorium type
seating, but natural like stoneor whatever this cave is made
of, and watching her. So when hecomes ziplining and Daniel came

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over the bridge, he makes himthrow the bridge. And now it's
this the three of them really inhere and no one can save them. I
mean, no one can make the jump.
There's probably another bridgesomewhere. But they're all just
watching and banking on Daniel,which it does make me think that
they they did all just assumeDaniel could find him. And
Kimiko is life's at danger. I'msurprised that someone else

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didn't have like a backup plan.

Sal Rodriguez (06:59:49):
I know that when Kumiko was just laying there
after having been hit by chosen.
She was laying there for a whileI really wanted somebody in the
crowd to say, Hey, let us grabher. Let us take her. And then
you guys go about you know youguys go about your fight because
she was laying there for a whilehow she could have been dead for
all they know.

Jason Connell (07:00:07):
So there's no one have like blow darts or
something that could reachchosen. Like everyone's just
sitting there like Okay, let'sgo Daniel. I mean,
theoretically, Daniel could dieand can mediocre die.

Sal Rodriguez (07:00:21):
Yeah, I mean, start throwing stuff. Yeah,

Jason Connell (07:00:24):
our staffs or someone's got a bow and arrow.
It's like no one went into abackup mode. I mean, maybe there
was maybe there was some sort ofSniper at the top. And we Auggie
would just nod to Mr. Sato. Itmay start to work for the
military,

Sal Rodriguez (07:00:40):
but it's not too hard. have only those three
thugs and when they're gone, hehas no replacements because if
he did have some back of thugs,then he can stick to them on
chosen. You know, so what thehell happened with that he only
had three guys and that was it.

Jason Connell (07:00:54):
I mean, he's trained US military for 40
years. He's got an F G eyes onhis payroll, but it caught them
by surprise. They're out ofcelebration. Anyway, that's just
me being nitpicky. But I justthink the stakes are high. You
know, he

Sal Rodriguez (07:01:10):
did warn him and he said, chosen. Don't do this.
And then Miyagi said, Don'tdishonor your uncle here. I'm
trying to do my Japanese accentsbrother.

Jason Connell (07:01:20):
Oh, that's good.
It's good. Yeah. But the fightis on and this is it all Valley
and chosen, does theunthinkable, Sal, he does the
unthinkable. And he counters thecrane technique, the infamous
Crane Kick, of which Miyagi saidWhat Sal?

Sal Rodriguez (07:01:41):
If done, correct.
No can defense

Jason Connell (07:01:44):
but yet chosen did and maybe it wasn't as good
a form, but nonetheless, thereit was, he defended it. And how
did he defend a Saudi remember,

Sal Rodriguez (07:01:56):
okay. So, this is gets into what I mentioned
earlier. So you look at thelineage, you had Mr. Miyagi his
dad teaching his son, Mr.
Miyagi. And Sato, then thelineage goes down, Miyagi side
to Daniel and it goes down Satoside to chosen theoretically
chosen should know all themoves, Daniel knows, right. It
should stand to reason based onthe lineage of the master

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disciple,

Jason Connell (07:02:21):
I would assume when Mr. Miyagi fled, that
Miyagi his father was no longersockos active teacher since a
master, that just be myassumption that a father
wouldn't continue to trainsomeone after all of that bad
blood had spilt. And I wouldthen assume Sato probably sought

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out another master or since theyare developed his own style
based on everything he'd alreadyknown. And so maybe new
techniques happened, kind of thecrease way took place. That's
just my assumption.

Sal Rodriguez (07:02:56):
The reason why I would disagree with that is
because Sato was there at Mr.
Miyagi, his dad's deathbed. Andthen he was he was there in the
village, I think that Sato hasbeen a part of Mr. Miyagi. He's
dad's life, all these years, inone way or another, maintaining
some sort of closeness with him.

Jason Connell (07:03:15):
I don't think he turned his back on him, I just
think they may be stoppedtraining together, not out of
hatred, but almost out ofrespect, maybe Miyagi, his
father's like, I'm no longerdoing that anymore. I could see
that. And Sato is like, great.
You know, I understand, I'll goover here. Now I'll fight these
tournaments, or I'll start myown dojo, he must have
immediately got into it. Andhe's working with GI is on his

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own, and kind of, you know, howyou learn everything you can
from your parents, and then yougo on and become your own
person. I could see how Sato

Sal Rodriguez (07:03:49):
did that. So in other words, you don't think
that Chozen should know themoves of Daniel Russo? Just
because you go to their uplinelineage find the same teacher?

Jason Connell (07:04:00):
Well, I think they would know a lot of the
similar things, right? Becausethey have the core of training
initially. But I think at somepoint, it could just change. So
yes, I think Daniel is a lotless skilled. Let's be honest,
he's not even been in class. Butwhat one year with Mr. Miyagi?
How many months? Is it sixmonths, beginning of this movie?

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And what was it like threebefore that? So he said, I've
been training martial arts for ayear. So he's far less
experienced than someone likechosen. I always just saying
Sato probably then started tobring in different aspects, more
aggressive training, he wastraining with all these military

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people. And that's all I wassaying it was probably more
robust. I think Daniel unchosenprobably do know a few things
the same and chosen is obviouslyseeing the Crane Kick and
someone who's a little bitslower and probably not good at
disguising it, or, you know, Idon't know, but he just seen it
a lot. Which, you know, Miyagiis lying about, there's no

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defense forever. If you alwaysseen it, like I said, in earlier
podcasts, you don't have to gointo it. You could just wait it
out. But anyway, it wasinteresting to see that that's
Daniel's go to and chosen had noproblem with it at all.

Sal Rodriguez (07:05:19):
No, no, no.

Jason Connell (07:05:20):
So Daniel is definitely a better fighter now.
But he's never faced someone.
The skilled and I do think he'shanging in there. He's
definitely getting some shotshere and there, but he's being
outmatched, and it's not lookinggood. So well. One thing

Sal Rodriguez (07:05:38):
I realized, and I didn't realize this until the
last time I watched the movieDaniel's wearing jeans. So how
difficult Do you think it wouldbe to get some major kicks in
wearing jeans versus youropponent who may be wearing
something that allows you alittle more mobility?

Jason Connell (07:05:56):
Oh, you make a good point. Maybe it was the
jeans it was the denim thatslowed the crane kick down. Just
enough for chosen to get a holdof it. Yeah, not my preferred
choice. I've never gone to classand tried to do all of our kicks
with jeans on I much prefer a GIthat is looser. So yeah, not

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ideal for Daniel didn't helphim. But even beside that, I
mean, this is a fight to thedeath. And he just doesn't have
as much to draw on as chosen.
But things begin to change. Thethe essence of Miyagi karate
begins to unfold, and whatstarts to happen

Sal Rodriguez (07:06:41):
all of a sudden, and I say all of a sudden,
because I don't think anybodywas expecting this. Miyagi
starts on the den den dichohandrim, then everyone starts on
their own and you have a wholearena in this castle ruins, a
whole arena of people doingtheir twisting Denden dicho
drum. So Daniel then whips intothe drum technique as taught by

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Miyagi karate. It's aninteresting sequence in the way
that it's film because you don'tnormally see fight sequences
filmed this close up, you seeabout a quarter shot of Daniel
from the waist up, and then yousee over the shoulder have
chosen and then you see Danielinitiating the drum technique,
which is the side to side torqueside to side side to side. And

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you see him besting chosen usingthe Denden taiko drum technique.
And this goes back to what Isaid before, why doesn't chosen
know this also. So somewherealong Sato is teaching last, the
origins of Miyagi karate, whichis the drum technique.

Jason Connell (07:07:46):
Yeah, he probably omitted that, or who knows. Or
maybe he caught him by surprise.
So now Daniel does a series ofhits. And it is a super tight
camera. And it kind of lookslike to me that his hands are,
he has them clasped together andhe's doing a double handed hit,
but it's so tight, you justcan't tell. So whatever it is,

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he does a series of hits to theright hits with the left hits
with the right hits with theleft and chosen is reeling, and
just kind of succumbs to it,which leads us to this big
finale.

Sal Rodriguez (07:08:22):
So he delivers the drum technique. He
conceivably has won the battle.
He goes over to chosen grabs himby the hair by the back of the
head. And he says live or die,man. I think he says man, right.
Live or die, man. I think hedoes. Yeah. And chosen says die.
And then Daniel says wrong andgives them a honk on his nose.

(07:08:45):
Just like Miyagi did to creaseoutside of the all valid
tournament.

Jason Connell (07:08:53):
Oh my gosh.
Another honk.

Sal Rodriguez (07:08:56):
Well, you don't like the honk to you.

Jason Connell (07:08:57):
I didn't mind this one as much as the first
one. But it's fitting itbookends the movie, the two big
intense scenes. I mean, I guessthat well, that first fight
sequence was supposed to be moreintense with Creason Miyagi, but
it wasn't. But no, I didn't mindthis one as much because
obviously Dana's not going tokill chosen, and he'd already
won. And chosen his life is,well, he's gonna live without

(07:09:22):
honor. So hey, Daniel is oneKarate Kid and one karate kid
too. He is the winner. Just likethe first film, Daniel gets the
girl.

Sal Rodriguez (07:09:32):
Yeah, so two films in a row, Daniel gets the
victory and gets the girl.

Jason Connell (07:09:37):
And just like the first film, The ending is quite
similar, isn't it?

Sal Rodriguez (07:09:43):
We have Miyagi looking on at his students
victory and smiling. And that'sthe end.

Jason Connell (07:09:50):
The only difference is in the original it
was a still shot. And then weyou know, we're on Miyagi. And
this one it's live action. Yes,Miyagi. And that's the only
difference, but I loved it. Idid. That's a great send off.
And that's it. Karate Kid. Parttwo.

Sal Rodriguez (07:10:11):
I loved it. I really did.

Jason Connell (07:10:12):
It's a really good film. I enjoy it. I think
it is so much stronger than theother two karate kids that have
Mr. Miyagi in them. And yeah,like I said, a lot of adult
storylines, incredible scenes ofthe romance high stakes. And
it's a really good film. Andyes, it could have been even

(07:10:35):
stronger, but it holds up andit's nice to go back and when
we've lost Pat Merida many yearsyears ago, and his legacy and
Mr. Miyagi his legacy lives on.
And this movie, I mean, Had thisnot been part of the Karate Kid
franchise, it would be very sad.
You know, there's a lot thatcomes from this movie,

Sal Rodriguez (07:10:56):
I would definitely say Miyagi lives on,
he lives on in all of thesequels. And he lives on in
Cobra Kai, Miyagi is will alwayslive. And that's why I really
foresee sometime in the future,we see a world a Karate Kid
universe that goes backward. Andwe begin to see Miyagi as a
child. And of course, you willprobably see Sato as a child,

(07:11:19):
you get to see his father maybeget to see Miyagi his mother. So
I think that there is awonderful opportunity here,
considering what has occurredrecently with Cobra Kai, a
wonderful opportunity to revisitthe Karate Kid universe. Way
back when?

Jason Connell (07:11:32):
Yeah, I totally agree. I've spent Pat Marine has
gone but yeah, Miyagi, hischaracter will live forever. And
they've already had that onescene and Cobra Kai, which leads
me to believe maybe it's them.
Maybe it's someone else. He'sjust such a great character,
that you could do more withthem. You could recast it and
you could do Miyagi the earlyyears, he is endless to do
things with. So I liked thatidea, for sure. And at some

(07:11:56):
point in time, we might have towatch this Karate Kid cartoon to
see what they did. Well, what ayoung I'm unfamiliar with.

Sal Rodriguez (07:12:04):
No, I haven't seen that either.

Jason Connell (07:12:06):
So yeah, I mean, what we do know about the third
movie is that, unfortunately,Yuki, a UPA and Kimiko are not
in it. Spoiler, I know. Well,you've had enough time the
audience has had enough time toseek credit get three. I think
there's an expiration on someboilers

Sal Rodriguez (07:12:26):
is like, like, Hey, man, I want to see Gone
With the Wind, but I don't wantany spoilers before I say.

Jason Connell (07:12:31):
I don't need spoilers. So yeah, you know,
that's unfortunate. I would loveto have seen UTA and Miyagi you
know, come back to the US.

Sal Rodriguez (07:12:42):
What because Karate Kid three opens with them
coming back, coming back fromOkinawa at the airport, right?
empty handed? Absolutely. Whyaren't there ladies with them?
Yeah, well,

Jason Connell (07:12:52):
we will answer these questions and explore many
more things on the Karate Kidpart three special episode. I
don't think sat us in it. Sothank you so much for listening
and we'd greatly appreciate itif you could subscribe rate and
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Sal Rodriguez (07:13:12):
And you can also follow us on social media at
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comments or questions.

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Sal Rodriguez (07:13:32):
No Mercy.

Jason Connell (07:13:35):
So thank you so much for listening and please be
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