April 16, 2025 • 31 mins
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After decades of being sidelined as too woo, a sleeper hit podcast by Ky Dickens called The Telepathy Tapes has brought telepathy into mainstream conversation.
Our human consciousness is shifting and evolving at last. What does that mean for our own evolution as human animals and our efforts to give everyone a voice, regardless of species?
Animal intuitive and animal communication teacher Shannon Cutts of Animal Love Languages unpacks this tangled topic in this episode of Let's Talk to Animals podcast.
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🌟 Why we all have subtle senses and how to find them
🌟 What happens if we are unable to use words to communicate
🌟 How telepathy has been hiding in plain sight all along
🌟 What non-human animals can teach us about our own hidden abilities
🌟 What is needed to make telepathy a truly life-changing gift
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Shannon Cutts (00:00):
Welcome back to Let's Talk to Animals.
My name is Shannon Cutts, I'man animal intuitive and
sensitive, a Reiki masterpractitioner and an animal
communication teacher for petsand their people.
And I'm also your friendlyneighborhood hostess for the
Let's Talk to Animal podcast,now in its sixth season, and in
this episode I am tackling atopic that has become all the
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rage of late.
After many, many years offeeling sidelined by what I call
the woo factor, suddenlytelepathy conversations are
everywhere.
And yes, of course I amreferring to the runaway, smash
success of the podcast, theTelepathy Tapes.
I too am an avid lister and ifyou haven't listened yet, I'll
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just give you a little synopsisof the focus of that podcast,
which is really bringing tolight hidden gifts of
non-speakers, individuals whohave been diagnosed with autism
and particularly those who havelimited or no verbal or spoken
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word ability.
And I first became aware of thetelepathy tapes when an animal
communication colleague andfriend of mine forwarded the
link and said have you listenedto this yet?
You need to check it out.
And the moment I started tolisten, of course at first I was
like oh, I'll just listen toone episode and then I'll be
good, I've got a laundry list ofpodcasts a mile long that I
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need to listen to, and it wasjust.
It hooked me because there areso many parallels.
When we think about the idea ofnon-speakers, we think about
beings who are sentient,conscious, intelligent, have the
full spectrum of feelings, lifeexperiences, and yet are not
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able to verbalize those in theformat that our species seems to
prefer, which is spokenlanguage.
Well, there are a whole lot ofparallels between non-speaking
human animals and non-speakingnon-human animals, and for those
of you who may have found thispodcast let's Talk to Animals
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and you are familiar with orcaring for someone who is a
non-speaker please do know thatthe focus here on this podcast
is helping human animals likeyou and me awaken to and unfold
our own intuitive pathways, whatI call that which makes us more
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alike than different.
So there is never any intentionto disrespect in any way the
uniqueness of the struggles that, let's say, non-verbal human
animals must go through, withthe structures that are set up
both to support and to activelywithhold support from us as
human animals, and the strugglesthat our non-human animal
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companions, what we call ourpets, or our partners, empathic
friends and teachers, as they'vetold me, and the feral animals,
the working animals, the wildanimals whose paths still do
cross here and there with ourown.
So there are some importantdifferences, and so there's
never any disrespect meant whenI am drawing important parallels
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that might be helpful to thoseof us who are interested, even
obsessed, with the field ofinterspecies communication.
So just know that, goingforward, that I hold all of
these different experiences thatwe come into these bodies to
have with so much humility andrespect, and consider myself a
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student, a lifetime student.
I am always learning and I sitat the feet of those, anyone of
any species, who can teach meand help me to be of better
service to the animals that Ispeak with and their loving,
caring human companions.
So that, out of the way, what Iwant to share going forward is
that, as I'm listening to thetelepathy tapes, I'm listening
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and I'm listening and I'mlistening more and more and more
, and this is long before I evengot to the episode that
specifically deals with animaltelepathy.
I'm listening and I'm thinking.
There are so many parallels andI'm feeling like in my
evolutionary memory, once upon atime I'm remembering that we
homo sapiens went through apre-verbal period in our own
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evolution, and we can see someevidence of this, at least
anecdotally, in cave paintingsand the making of tools and
different iterations, differentcultures, if you will, as we
grew towards the species that weare today.
And we can also look into ourshared history of just being
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born and growing up, homo sapien, and recognize that up until
the age of two or so, most of ushave limited, if any, verbal
capacity.
We just haven't really graspedthe concept of words yet.
We're still developing, and somaybe we pop out our first word
and the human animals all aroundus, our parents, our carers,
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our teachers.
They get so excited that we getso excited that it becomes
words, words, words.
From there on out, which isreally a lot of what I unpack in
my animal communicationadventure student learning
programs is let's rewind andremember that not so many years
or decades ago in my case, wetoo went through a pre-verbal or
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what we might call a non-verbalperiod.
That didn't mean that we lostall ability to communicate.
It meant we had to rely onthose other pathways.
It's like if we can't see, welearn to rely on hearing.
If we can't hear, we learn torely on seeing.
If we can't hear, we learn torely on seeing.
If we can't see or hear, maybewe're relying on smell or taste,
to the point where we begin todevelop the ability to hear
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through our eyes and see throughour ears and smell through our
tongue and taste through ournose and we begin to develop a
very multi-dimensionalexperience of our world.
And this forms the foundationfor telepathy, because these are
the same pathways that we needto have open and activated, that
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we need to be conscious of ifwe want to share ideas,
experiences, emotions, energy inmotion, if we want to send and
receive messages.
Well, we need to be aware ofmany more pathways beyond simply
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our left brain mind.
Our left brain mind is notintuitive.
Our left brain mind doesn'thave that job description.
That's not its job.
Our left brain mind is there asa decoder to decode, translate
and share sensory impressions inthe form of words.
And when I think about this, Ithink about what my college
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speech professor talked about ashe was coaching us through our
final exam of giving a 10 minutespeech in front of people, and
he said 10% of conversation, ofpublic speaking, is words, is
speaking, the other 90% isnonverbal.
And then he went on to describeit as like, basically, facial
expressions and how you holdyour body and where you make eye
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contact and didn't say muchmore about it.
I thought, well geez, if speechis 90% nonverbal, then where do
I sign up to learn about that?
Because that sounds like it's alot more important than just
learning how to master stringinga noun and a verb and an
adjective together.
But it just hasn't been a focusof our culture in the times
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that we're living in Now, thanksto what I consider heroism of
the non-speakers and theircaregivers and their parents and
their teachers and beautifulKai Dickens, who is the creator
of that podcast, well, suddenlythere's a lot more interest in
what we woo folks have been kindof quietly doing behind the
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scenes and in fact I just got myfirst request the other day
from the mom of a nine-year-oldnon-speaker who wanted to see if
perhaps I'd be open to tuningin with her.
So there is a shift in ourconsciousness.
In fact, I've had severalanimal communication pet parent
clients recently reach out to me, one in particular who said I
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don't really believe in thisstuff but I've been listening to
the telepathy tapes and I'mhooked and so I just wanted to
see.
And that is a great place to be.
It's a fabulous place to be.
Why do I say that?
Because it's an honest place tobe.
I love what Kai Dickens says onher podcast.
Remember, a true skepticrequires an open mind.
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So when we're truly skeptical,I always refer back to Don
Miguel Ruiz, one of my longtimementors, who's the author of the
Four Agreements and co-authorof the Fifth agreement.
The fifth agreement is beskeptical but learn to listen.
So basically he's saying keepan open mind, don't just shut
down because the left brain minddoesn't get it.
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That's not the left brainmind's job description.
That's where we need to turn tothe much maligned and
frequently overlooked rightbrain hemisphere, which has
executive function in the brain.
That means it's connected toevery part of the brain, means
it overrides the left brain mind.
That means we can use the rightbrain mind to tune in with all
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the rest the 90%, the sensory,the intuitive, the emotional,
the magnetic quality of theheart, the electrical energy
that the brain produces.
The right brain hemisphere isin charge of all of that.
And if you're interested in themagnetic quality of the heart,
the electrical energy that thebrain produces, the right brain
hemisphere is in charge of allof that.
And if you're interested inlearning more about that.
I often point my students to abook called my Stroke of Insight
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by Dr Jill Bolte-Taylor.
She is a brain researcher whosuffered an early midlife stroke
and she also has a wonderfulTED Talk on that topic, and you
can hear her talk about thedifferences between the left
brain hemisphere and the rightbrain hemisphere.
So all of this is sciencesupported.
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This is so important tounderstand.
We have so much capabilitywithin us that we're just not
making use of and we almost it'slike we haven't been interested
until somebody we love whetherthey're a human animal or a
non-human animal experiencessomething and we don't know how
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to help them.
And that's when we start tobecome true skeptics, saying I
don't know if I really believein all of this stuff or any of
it, but nothing else that I havetried so far has worked and I
know there's got to be somethingout there and I can't give up,
because I love this person andthey're suffering and I can feel
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it, even if I can't put it intowords.
I know there's something there,I know there's something going
on and here I am.
So I will never stop searchingand I will open myself to new
ideas, to new experiences.
When someone comes to me andsays, well, I don't believe in
animal communication, I say,well, have you ever experienced
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it?
Because that's the way of thetrue skeptic.
I didn't have an opinion one wayor another when I first
encountered a book by a longtimeanimal communicator that I then
went on to hire, and everythingthat she was sharing in this
book so resonated with me that Ibooked a session and, lo and
behold, she went on to help meand my interspecies family for
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many, many years.
I opened myself to having anexperience and then I didn't
need belief anymore because Iknew for me this works.
So that's really what we'retalking about.
It's like, well, do you valueyour beliefs more or do you
value positive change more?
And so you can try it out foryourself and see.
And that's really where we'reheaded, I believe, as a
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collective consciousness iswe've evolved to the point where
we're either going to killourselves or we're headed.
I believe, as a collectiveconsciousness is, we've evolved
to the point where we're eithergoing to kill ourselves or we're
going to keep growing in a newdirection.
And that's the push towardsremembering all of the rest.
Back in the day, before, wehuman animals had all of this
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cognitive stuff going on and allof the intellectual focus.
How did we operate?
How did we communicate with oneanother?
How did we survive the firsttwo years of our life?
Well, we survived using all therest, the non-verbal.
So let's take a moment andunpack.
Where is the intersection oftelepathy and specifically
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animal telepathy?
And when I say animal, Iprobably need to say non-human
animal, because we also tend toforget that we are all animals.
We're all more alike thandifferent, and a fantastic book
on that topic that I recommendto my students so frequently is
your Inner Fish by Dr NeilShubin.
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He is an evolutionaryanthropologist who's been at the
forefront of some of thosepivotal missing link excavations
where we've literallydiscovered the animal.
That helps us make sense of howthe species evolved or how
different species evolved, andhe talks about and really breaks
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down, both in his books and inhis university classes.
He breaks down how we are muchmore similar than different.
For instance, we all have thesame basic suite of bones all
the way down to our fingers, buthow they show up and exactly
where they show up in differentspecies looks different
depending on functionality, whatthey need to succeed in their
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environment.
We all have a basic, almost allof us anyway, have a basic
spinal structure.
In some very primitive beingsit's called a notochord, but we
all have one.
We all have some form ofcognitive function and some form
of left brain cognitivefunction, some form of right
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brain cognitive function.
We all, regardless of species,have sensory inputs, sensory
pathways, some form of sensingthe world around us, adapted to
our unique environment.
So we may not see through eyes.
We may see through whiskers.
If we're a blind mole, rat,we're not seeing through eyes
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that look like yours or mine,but we are seeing.
So, recognizing thesedifferences.
Well, for me it's an invitationto reconnect, to recognize that
even though a tree or a parrotor a ladybug looks very
different from me on the outside, on the inside, not only do we
have kind of all the same basicmaterials that allow us to get
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around and get along in this 3Dworld that we call planet earth,
we also have all of the samebasic motivations, all the way
down to the primitive fight,flight, freeze, tend and be
friend versus rest, digest,restore and reconnect.
So sympathetic versusparasympathetic nervous system.
So when we look at telepathy andwe look at, well, how woo is it
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really and where's theintersection of animal
communication and animaltelepathy?
Well, let's take a look attelepathy first.
So telepathy comes from a pairof Greek words that basically
translates to mean perceivesfrom afar, perceives from a
distance.
So tele is basically the Greekword for far off or at a
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distance.
Pathia is basically the Greekword for feeling, perceiving,
suffering, passion, experience.
So we've got perceiving fromafar Not too fancy, right.
So in my world, teaching animalcommunication as well as
practicing it, this sounds quitea bit like empathy, which is a
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word that translates to mean tofeel as if or to suffer with.
Empathy is actually probably theonly well-documented psi
ability or intuitive pathway.
Empathy is that ability that wecan refine, hone and enhance,
based on nature and nurture.
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So there can be biologyinvolved, there can also be
environment involved, there aregenetics and there are
epigenetics behind how muchempathy one individual may
express and how little anotherindividual may express.
And so, for me, telepathyshares quite a few similarities
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with the definition for empathy.
So the setup is all there.
Then we come to the definitionfor compassion.
In my world, conversing acrossspecies boundaries, empathy is
great.
It's very useful to be able tofeel as if, perhaps to suffer
with, if an animal I'm speakingwith is going through something.
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But empathy on its own isfairly powerless.
It's just an ability, it's justa pathway, it's just a way that
we can harness all that is morealike than different within us,
so we can share experienceseven if we don't share the same
species.
But empathy on its own, justlike telepathy on its own, well,
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it's not going to be able to dotoo much.
What we really need is someenergy in motion, some action,
and that comes throughcompassion.
Compassion is the word thattranslates to mean to act with
passion on behalf of, and thisis where animal telepathy
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intersects with animalcommunication, because the
communication, theconversational part, is where we
spring into action.
We are able to receive,translate and share another's
feelings, sensations, thoughts.
Sensations, thoughts, ideas,wants, needs, emotions, desires,
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intentions, goals in the formof words.
And that act of compassion,that brave act of compassion, to
tune in with another beingusing the telepathy pathway, or
the empathy channel, as I liketo call it.
Well, that allows us to be aforce for good, to be an agent
of change in that other being'slife.
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And so, without the act ofconversation, of communication,
telepathy on its own is a niceto have.
It's not a need to have.
And that's where I find so muchexcitement and value and
courage in what kai is doingwith the telepathy tapes and
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with what my colleagues and I,frankly, are doing in the field
of interspecies communication tohelp our own species reconnect
with all the pathways.
We've forgotten about that westill have access to.
It's just we're kind of rusty.
We probably most of us haven'tused these pathways of subtle
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seeing, subtle hearing, subtlesmelling and tasting, subtle
sensing.
The skin is the largest organon our body, so sensation is a
huge, huge way we can receiveand send information.
Clear empathy, which is thatemotion, that energy in motion.
And clear cognizance, which isthat clear knowing and I
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describe that as you knowsomething you didn't know a
moment ago.
You don't know how or why youknow it and you can't unknow it
and nothing that your left brainmind says or does can talk you
out of knowing what you know.
We typically call these theclairs, and we've really wooed
these too, but really the wordclair just means clear.
So if we can see clearly withour outer sight, if you close
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your eyes you can still most ofus, we can see an impression of
what we were just staring atwith our outer eyes.
That's your subtle sense.
If I say the word pizza rightnow, you can get a full on
sensory impression, completewith sight, sound, smell, taste,
sensation, feeling and knowing,all in one neat little package,
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just by me saying a word.
So all of that is the 90%.
All of that is the rest of whatcomes along with a message, and
that is why none of this stuffis woo, it's just forgotten.
None of this stuff is woo, it'sjust forgotten.
We haven't created a worldwhere these pathways are prized
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and developed.
Most of my animal communicationstudents struggle to some degree
with one or more of thepathways.
This is something that's verynormal.
I struggled as well.
I came in with very strongclairsentience, which is clear
feeling, and claircognizance,which is clear knowing.
I didn't really have muchfaculty with the rest of the
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clairs when I first started myintuitive journey and learning
experiences.
But just like we remember how toride a bike or maneuver our way
around a Frisbee, even if wehaven't done it in a while, we
can also rekindle our facilitywith these subtle senses and the
more we do, the more they willactivate, the more use they will
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be to us, and that's how westart to add this back into our
vocabulary, to our way ofcommunicating, to our language,
and that's where I see again, inthe work that myself and my
colleagues are doing with animalcommunication, is analogous in
a way to the work that KaiDickens and all of the amazing
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humans that she interviews whoare working with non-speakers,
and the non-speakers themselvesin the beautiful way they
express how they're holdingspace for the rest of us to
evolve.
And a lot of them are sufferingdeeply from while they are
waiting for us to catch up.
And that is the service that weare providing is to lend our
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voice to those who are not ableto use their voices in the way
that our culture has decided isacceptable.
Until you can speak foryourself fully, allow me to
share your words, and thisreally is the highest service
that we can offer.
Another right, by showing upand listening fully, listening
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on every channel, listening onevery level, listening in every
dimension, and then doing ourabsolute best, as Don Miguel
Ruiz says always do your best.
As Don Miguel Ruiz says, alwaysdo your best.
So we do our absolute best totranslate that individual's
message into shareable words,and that, in a nutshell, is
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telepathy.
And I want to just make one morepoint for those of you who
maybe you're still listening andmaybe you're even thinking to
yourself I don't know why I'mstill listening to this, because
I kind of want to turn it off.
I'm not really sure what'sgoing on here, but somehow, for
some reason, you're eventhinking to yourself.
I don't know why I'm stilllistening to this, because I
kind of want to turn it off.
I'm not really sure what'sgoing on here, but somehow, for
some reason, you're stilllistening.
I want to just offer one extralittle tidbit of insight that
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has so fascinated me In so manyways all of the modern
conveniences that we so take forgranted today, for instance the
simple, humble telephone.
Well, at one point in time andmy mom, who's in her 80s, still
remembers this At one time itwas a really, really big deal
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when private homes got their owntelephones and at that time
there were still party lines,they were shared phone lines.
You would pop on and you neverknew who would be on.
I remember that, even throughcollege, that you'd get on the
phone and somebody else would betalking and you'd be listening
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in on someone else'sconversation.
And so, once upon a time, onsomeone else's conversation.
And so, once upon a time,telephones, which basically
means to talk at a distance,were so woo.
People didn't even believe inthem.
People thought they woulddestroy our lives.
The outcry against the simpletelephone because of this
disruption it was causing inpeople's ordinary daily routines
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, their accustomed ways ofcommunicating, was so great.
And let's be honest, we humananimals, just like most other
species, we don't like change.
Even if our routine iscomfortably uncomfortable or
uncomfortably comfortable, we'dstill prefer that to something
new.
And so, even though telepathyis not new it's just the subtler
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iteration of the telephone, andit's been around forever and we
all have access to it it canfeel more comfortably
uncomfortable or uncomfortablycomfortable to continue to hold
out doubt, to continue todisbelieve, to continue to think
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well, that's just too woo forme, and that's fine if that's
where you find yourself today,but I'm suspecting, if you are
still listening to this podcastepisode and you still haven't
turned it off, that there'ssomething more there.
And here's the other challengethat I want to just bring to the
forefront as food for thought.
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In our fast-paced, moreinformation than we can ever
process yesterday culture, weoften tend to think well, if
it's true, if it's really truethat I can do this, if it's
really true that I too can betelepathic, then why am I not
already doing it?
Well, it's the same reasonyou're not already composing
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symphonies or cooking up fivestar Michelin chef recipes?
We need practice, and especiallyfor those of us adult humans
who have gotten into theirfourth or fifth decade or more
of life, as I have and we dohave our attachment to what's
comfortably uncomfortable in ourlives, including our beliefs,
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our way of looking at the world.
Well, this is going to shakethat up.
Students of mine know, going in, that this is a change in
worldview as well as a change inyour daily habits and your
daily communications, and that'sgoing to shake some stuff loose
inside.
And it can be more of astruggle for some students than
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others, because we come withthis encrusted worldview that we
then have to chip away.
We come with our fears, we comewith our doubts.
We come with the naysayers inour lives who've gathered around
us to tell us how woo we areand how crazy we are to believe
in something like this, letalone invest our time and our
money and our energy into thistype of path.
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And yet, for those of us who doit's life-changing.
A whole new world opens up andwe remember all the rest of us,
we reconnect with all the restof us, and it doesn't mean that
it all flows like in a two-hourmovie where you see the hero or
the heroine go on their journeyand two hours later they're
happy and healthy and pulling inseven figures.
That's typically not how itworks.
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We have to examine old beliefs,we have to go through a whole
new level of self-individuationwhere we try on old us for size
and see, does that costume, doesthat space suit, does that set
of ideas and beliefs andassociations still fit?
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And if it doesn't, we have tobe brave enough to set it aside
and to kind of go naked for awhile until we can create a new
way of being that feelsintegrated, that feels authentic
, that feels lightweight,pliable, that feels natural and
freeing.
So that's where I perceive theintersection of animal telepathy
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and animal communication.
There's always more to learn.
I look forward to hearing yourinsights and your experiences
and your questions, because thisis like breaking news in the
evolutionary consciousness ofour planet and it is fast
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evolving.
There's so much more to learnand so, coming with an empty cup
with that student mentality,giving ourselves permission to
know nothing, to believe nothingand to simply try everything on
for size and see how it feels,and see how it fits, and give
ourselves the gift of having anexperience, a direct experience,
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before we make up our minds.
Well, if that isn't freedom, Idon't know what is.
So I have so enjoyed sharingthis episode with you.
I so appreciate your energy,your intention, your heart for
animals of all species,including our own.
I look forward to your thoughtsand insights and if you're new
to the let's Talk to Animalscommunity and you've enjoyed
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favorite streaming service.
It really does help me feelinspired and encouraged to
continue making these episodesfor you.
And again, if you're new, werelease a new episode every two
weeks here on let's Talk toAnimals, so hopefully you will
join us for the next episode aswell.
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If you're interested in learningmore about me, the work I do
communicating with animals,offering energy balancing and
Reiki for pets and their people,and teaching animal
communication, you can head overto animallovelanguagescom or
find me over on Instagram atloveandfeathersandshells or at
animallovelanguagescom, or findme over on Instagram at love and
feathers and shells or atanimal love languages.
So I send you all my love, allmy appreciation, all my
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gratitude and look forward towelcoming you back to let's talk
to animals very soon.
Okay, all my love.
Bye for now.
Welcome back to Let's Talk to Animals.
My name is Shannon Cutts, I'man animal intuitive and
sensitive, a Reiki masterpractitioner and an animal
communication teacher for petsand their people.
And I'm also your friendlyneighborhood hostess for the
Let's Talk to Animal podcast,now in its sixth season, and in
this episode I am tackling atopic that has become all the
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rage of late.
After many, many years offeeling sidelined by what I call
the woo factor, suddenlytelepathy conversations are
everywhere.
And yes, of course I amreferring to the runaway, smash
success of the podcast, theTelepathy Tapes.
I too am an avid lister and ifyou haven't listened yet, I'll
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just give you a little synopsisof the focus of that podcast,
which is really bringing tolight hidden gifts of
non-speakers, individuals whohave been diagnosed with autism
and particularly those who havelimited or no verbal or spoken
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word ability.
And I first became aware of thetelepathy tapes when an animal
communication colleague andfriend of mine forwarded the
link and said have you listenedto this yet?
You need to check it out.
And the moment I started tolisten, of course at first I was
like oh, I'll just listen toone episode and then I'll be
good, I've got a laundry list ofpodcasts a mile long that I
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need to listen to, and it wasjust.
It hooked me because there areso many parallels.
When we think about the idea ofnon-speakers, we think about
beings who are sentient,conscious, intelligent, have the
full spectrum of feelings, lifeexperiences, and yet are not
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able to verbalize those in theformat that our species seems to
prefer, which is spokenlanguage.
Well, there are a whole lot ofparallels between non-speaking
human animals and non-speakingnon-human animals, and for those
of you who may have found thispodcast let's Talk to Animals
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and you are familiar with orcaring for someone who is a
non-speaker please do know thatthe focus here on this podcast
is helping human animals likeyou and me awaken to and unfold
our own intuitive pathways, whatI call that which makes us more
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alike than different.
So there is never any intentionto disrespect in any way the
uniqueness of the struggles that, let's say, non-verbal human
animals must go through, withthe structures that are set up
both to support and to activelywithhold support from us as
human animals, and the strugglesthat our non-human animal
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companions, what we call ourpets, or our partners, empathic
friends and teachers, as they'vetold me, and the feral animals,
the working animals, the wildanimals whose paths still do
cross here and there with ourown.
So there are some importantdifferences, and so there's
never any disrespect meant whenI am drawing important parallels
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that might be helpful to thoseof us who are interested, even
obsessed, with the field ofinterspecies communication.
So just know that, goingforward, that I hold all of
these different experiences thatwe come into these bodies to
have with so much humility andrespect, and consider myself a
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student, a lifetime student.
I am always learning and I sitat the feet of those, anyone of
any species, who can teach meand help me to be of better
service to the animals that Ispeak with and their loving,
caring human companions.
So that, out of the way, what Iwant to share going forward is
that, as I'm listening to thetelepathy tapes, I'm listening
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and I'm listening and I'mlistening more and more and more
, and this is long before I evengot to the episode that
specifically deals with animaltelepathy.
I'm listening and I'm thinking.
There are so many parallels andI'm feeling like in my
evolutionary memory, once upon atime I'm remembering that we
homo sapiens went through apre-verbal period in our own
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evolution, and we can see someevidence of this, at least
anecdotally, in cave paintingsand the making of tools and
different iterations, differentcultures, if you will, as we
grew towards the species that weare today.
And we can also look into ourshared history of just being
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born and growing up, homo sapien, and recognize that up until
the age of two or so, most of ushave limited, if any, verbal
capacity.
We just haven't really graspedthe concept of words yet.
We're still developing, and somaybe we pop out our first word
and the human animals all aroundus, our parents, our carers,
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our teachers.
They get so excited that we getso excited that it becomes
words, words, words.
From there on out, which isreally a lot of what I unpack in
my animal communicationadventure student learning
programs is let's rewind andremember that not so many years
or decades ago in my case, wetoo went through a pre-verbal or
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what we might call a non-verbalperiod.
That didn't mean that we lostall ability to communicate.
It meant we had to rely onthose other pathways.
It's like if we can't see, welearn to rely on hearing.
If we can't hear, we learn torely on seeing.
If we can't hear, we learn torely on seeing.
If we can't see or hear, maybewe're relying on smell or taste,
to the point where we begin todevelop the ability to hear
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through our eyes and see throughour ears and smell through our
tongue and taste through ournose and we begin to develop a
very multi-dimensionalexperience of our world.
And this forms the foundationfor telepathy, because these are
the same pathways that we needto have open and activated, that
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we need to be conscious of ifwe want to share ideas,
experiences, emotions, energy inmotion, if we want to send and
receive messages.
Well, we need to be aware ofmany more pathways beyond simply
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our left brain mind.
Our left brain mind is notintuitive.
Our left brain mind doesn'thave that job description.
That's not its job.
Our left brain mind is there asa decoder to decode, translate
and share sensory impressions inthe form of words.
And when I think about this, Ithink about what my college
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speech professor talked about ashe was coaching us through our
final exam of giving a 10 minutespeech in front of people, and
he said 10% of conversation, ofpublic speaking, is words, is
speaking, the other 90% isnonverbal.
And then he went on to describeit as like, basically, facial
expressions and how you holdyour body and where you make eye
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contact and didn't say muchmore about it.
I thought, well geez, if speechis 90% nonverbal, then where do
I sign up to learn about that?
Because that sounds like it's alot more important than just
learning how to master stringinga noun and a verb and an
adjective together.
But it just hasn't been a focusof our culture in the times
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that we're living in Now, thanksto what I consider heroism of
the non-speakers and theircaregivers and their parents and
their teachers and beautifulKai Dickens, who is the creator
of that podcast, well, suddenlythere's a lot more interest in
what we woo folks have been kindof quietly doing behind the
(08:06):
scenes and in fact I just got myfirst request the other day
from the mom of a nine-year-oldnon-speaker who wanted to see if
perhaps I'd be open to tuningin with her.
So there is a shift in ourconsciousness.
In fact, I've had severalanimal communication pet parent
clients recently reach out to me, one in particular who said I
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don't really believe in thisstuff but I've been listening to
the telepathy tapes and I'mhooked and so I just wanted to
see.
And that is a great place to be.
It's a fabulous place to be.
Why do I say that?
Because it's an honest place tobe.
I love what Kai Dickens says onher podcast.
Remember, a true skepticrequires an open mind.
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So when we're truly skeptical,I always refer back to Don
Miguel Ruiz, one of my longtimementors, who's the author of the
Four Agreements and co-authorof the Fifth agreement.
The fifth agreement is beskeptical but learn to listen.
So basically he's saying keepan open mind, don't just shut
down because the left brain minddoesn't get it.
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That's not the left brainmind's job description.
That's where we need to turn tothe much maligned and
frequently overlooked rightbrain hemisphere, which has
executive function in the brain.
That means it's connected toevery part of the brain, means
it overrides the left brain mind.
That means we can use the rightbrain mind to tune in with all
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the rest the 90%, the sensory,the intuitive, the emotional,
the magnetic quality of theheart, the electrical energy
that the brain produces.
The right brain hemisphere isin charge of all of that.
And if you're interested in themagnetic quality of the heart,
the electrical energy that thebrain produces, the right brain
hemisphere is in charge of allof that.
And if you're interested inlearning more about that.
I often point my students to abook called my Stroke of Insight
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by Dr Jill Bolte-Taylor.
She is a brain researcher whosuffered an early midlife stroke
and she also has a wonderfulTED Talk on that topic, and you
can hear her talk about thedifferences between the left
brain hemisphere and the rightbrain hemisphere.
So all of this is sciencesupported.
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This is so important tounderstand.
We have so much capabilitywithin us that we're just not
making use of and we almost it'slike we haven't been interested
until somebody we love whetherthey're a human animal or a
non-human animal experiencessomething and we don't know how
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to help them.
And that's when we start tobecome true skeptics, saying I
don't know if I really believein all of this stuff or any of
it, but nothing else that I havetried so far has worked and I
know there's got to be somethingout there and I can't give up,
because I love this person andthey're suffering and I can feel
(10:59):
it, even if I can't put it intowords.
I know there's something there,I know there's something going
on and here I am.
So I will never stop searchingand I will open myself to new
ideas, to new experiences.
When someone comes to me andsays, well, I don't believe in
animal communication, I say,well, have you ever experienced
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it?
Because that's the way of thetrue skeptic.
I didn't have an opinion one wayor another when I first
encountered a book by a longtimeanimal communicator that I then
went on to hire, and everythingthat she was sharing in this
book so resonated with me that Ibooked a session and, lo and
behold, she went on to help meand my interspecies family for
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many, many years.
I opened myself to having anexperience and then I didn't
need belief anymore because Iknew for me this works.
So that's really what we'retalking about.
It's like, well, do you valueyour beliefs more or do you
value positive change more?
And so you can try it out foryourself and see.
And that's really where we'reheaded, I believe, as a
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collective consciousness iswe've evolved to the point where
we're either going to killourselves or we're headed.
I believe, as a collectiveconsciousness is, we've evolved
to the point where we're eithergoing to kill ourselves or we're
going to keep growing in a newdirection.
And that's the push towardsremembering all of the rest.
Back in the day, before, wehuman animals had all of this
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cognitive stuff going on and allof the intellectual focus.
How did we operate?
How did we communicate with oneanother?
How did we survive the firsttwo years of our life?
Well, we survived using all therest, the non-verbal.
So let's take a moment andunpack.
Where is the intersection oftelepathy and specifically
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animal telepathy?
And when I say animal, Iprobably need to say non-human
animal, because we also tend toforget that we are all animals.
We're all more alike thandifferent, and a fantastic book
on that topic that I recommendto my students so frequently is
your Inner Fish by Dr NeilShubin.
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He is an evolutionaryanthropologist who's been at the
forefront of some of thosepivotal missing link excavations
where we've literallydiscovered the animal.
That helps us make sense of howthe species evolved or how
different species evolved, andhe talks about and really breaks
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down, both in his books and inhis university classes.
He breaks down how we are muchmore similar than different.
For instance, we all have thesame basic suite of bones all
the way down to our fingers, buthow they show up and exactly
where they show up in differentspecies looks different
depending on functionality, whatthey need to succeed in their
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environment.
We all have a basic, almost allof us anyway, have a basic
spinal structure.
In some very primitive beingsit's called a notochord, but we
all have one.
We all have some form ofcognitive function and some form
of left brain cognitivefunction, some form of right
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brain cognitive function.
We all, regardless of species,have sensory inputs, sensory
pathways, some form of sensingthe world around us, adapted to
our unique environment.
So we may not see through eyes.
We may see through whiskers.
If we're a blind mole, rat,we're not seeing through eyes
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that look like yours or mine,but we are seeing.
So, recognizing thesedifferences.
Well, for me it's an invitationto reconnect, to recognize that
even though a tree or a parrotor a ladybug looks very
different from me on the outside, on the inside, not only do we
have kind of all the same basicmaterials that allow us to get
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around and get along in this 3Dworld that we call planet earth,
we also have all of the samebasic motivations, all the way
down to the primitive fight,flight, freeze, tend and be
friend versus rest, digest,restore and reconnect.
So sympathetic versusparasympathetic nervous system.
So when we look at telepathy andwe look at, well, how woo is it
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really and where's theintersection of animal
communication and animaltelepathy?
Well, let's take a look attelepathy first.
So telepathy comes from a pairof Greek words that basically
translates to mean perceivesfrom afar, perceives from a
distance.
So tele is basically the Greekword for far off or at a
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distance.
Pathia is basically the Greekword for feeling, perceiving,
suffering, passion, experience.
So we've got perceiving fromafar Not too fancy, right.
So in my world, teaching animalcommunication as well as
practicing it, this sounds quitea bit like empathy, which is a
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word that translates to mean tofeel as if or to suffer with.
Empathy is actually probably theonly well-documented psi
ability or intuitive pathway.
Empathy is that ability that wecan refine, hone and enhance,
based on nature and nurture.
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So there can be biologyinvolved, there can also be
environment involved, there aregenetics and there are
epigenetics behind how muchempathy one individual may
express and how little anotherindividual may express.
And so, for me, telepathyshares quite a few similarities
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with the definition for empathy.
So the setup is all there.
Then we come to the definitionfor compassion.
In my world, conversing acrossspecies boundaries, empathy is
great.
It's very useful to be able tofeel as if, perhaps to suffer
with, if an animal I'm speakingwith is going through something.
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But empathy on its own isfairly powerless.
It's just an ability, it's justa pathway, it's just a way that
we can harness all that is morealike than different within us,
so we can share experienceseven if we don't share the same
species.
But empathy on its own, justlike telepathy on its own, well,
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it's not going to be able to dotoo much.
What we really need is someenergy in motion, some action,
and that comes throughcompassion.
Compassion is the word thattranslates to mean to act with
passion on behalf of, and thisis where animal telepathy
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intersects with animalcommunication, because the
communication, theconversational part, is where we
spring into action.
We are able to receive,translate and share another's
feelings, sensations, thoughts.
Sensations, thoughts, ideas,wants, needs, emotions, desires,
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intentions, goals in the formof words.
And that act of compassion,that brave act of compassion, to
tune in with another beingusing the telepathy pathway, or
the empathy channel, as I liketo call it.
Well, that allows us to be aforce for good, to be an agent
of change in that other being'slife.
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And so, without the act ofconversation, of communication,
telepathy on its own is a niceto have.
It's not a need to have.
And that's where I find so muchexcitement and value and
courage in what kai is doingwith the telepathy tapes and
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with what my colleagues and I,frankly, are doing in the field
of interspecies communication tohelp our own species reconnect
with all the pathways.
We've forgotten about that westill have access to.
It's just we're kind of rusty.
We probably most of us haven'tused these pathways of subtle
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seeing, subtle hearing, subtlesmelling and tasting, subtle
sensing.
The skin is the largest organon our body, so sensation is a
huge, huge way we can receiveand send information.
Clear empathy, which is thatemotion, that energy in motion.
And clear cognizance, which isthat clear knowing and I
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describe that as you knowsomething you didn't know a
moment ago.
You don't know how or why youknow it and you can't unknow it
and nothing that your left brainmind says or does can talk you
out of knowing what you know.
We typically call these theclairs, and we've really wooed
these too, but really the wordclair just means clear.
So if we can see clearly withour outer sight, if you close
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your eyes you can still most ofus, we can see an impression of
what we were just staring atwith our outer eyes.
That's your subtle sense.
If I say the word pizza rightnow, you can get a full on
sensory impression, completewith sight, sound, smell, taste,
sensation, feeling and knowing,all in one neat little package,
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just by me saying a word.
So all of that is the 90%.
All of that is the rest of whatcomes along with a message, and
that is why none of this stuffis woo, it's just forgotten.
None of this stuff is woo, it'sjust forgotten.
We haven't created a worldwhere these pathways are prized
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and developed.
Most of my animal communicationstudents struggle to some degree
with one or more of thepathways.
This is something that's verynormal.
I struggled as well.
I came in with very strongclairsentience, which is clear
feeling, and claircognizance,which is clear knowing.
I didn't really have muchfaculty with the rest of the
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clairs when I first started myintuitive journey and learning
experiences.
But just like we remember how toride a bike or maneuver our way
around a Frisbee, even if wehaven't done it in a while, we
can also rekindle our facilitywith these subtle senses and the
more we do, the more they willactivate, the more use they will
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be to us, and that's how westart to add this back into our
vocabulary, to our way ofcommunicating, to our language,
and that's where I see again, inthe work that myself and my
colleagues are doing with animalcommunication, is analogous in
a way to the work that KaiDickens and all of the amazing
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humans that she interviews whoare working with non-speakers,
and the non-speakers themselvesin the beautiful way they
express how they're holdingspace for the rest of us to
evolve.
And a lot of them are sufferingdeeply from while they are
waiting for us to catch up.
And that is the service that weare providing is to lend our
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voice to those who are not ableto use their voices in the way
that our culture has decided isacceptable.
Until you can speak foryourself fully, allow me to
share your words, and thisreally is the highest service
that we can offer.
Another right, by showing upand listening fully, listening
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on every channel, listening onevery level, listening in every
dimension, and then doing ourabsolute best, as Don Miguel
Ruiz says always do your best.
As Don Miguel Ruiz says, alwaysdo your best.
So we do our absolute best totranslate that individual's
message into shareable words,and that, in a nutshell, is
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telepathy.
And I want to just make one morepoint for those of you who
maybe you're still listening andmaybe you're even thinking to
yourself I don't know why I'mstill listening to this, because
I kind of want to turn it off.
I'm not really sure what'sgoing on here, but somehow, for
some reason, you're eventhinking to yourself.
I don't know why I'm stilllistening to this, because I
kind of want to turn it off.
I'm not really sure what'sgoing on here, but somehow, for
some reason, you're stilllistening.
I want to just offer one extralittle tidbit of insight that
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has so fascinated me In so manyways all of the modern
conveniences that we so take forgranted today, for instance the
simple, humble telephone.
Well, at one point in time andmy mom, who's in her 80s, still
remembers this At one time itwas a really, really big deal
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when private homes got their owntelephones and at that time
there were still party lines,they were shared phone lines.
You would pop on and you neverknew who would be on.
I remember that, even throughcollege, that you'd get on the
phone and somebody else would betalking and you'd be listening
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in on someone else'sconversation.
And so, once upon a time, onsomeone else's conversation.
And so, once upon a time,telephones, which basically
means to talk at a distance,were so woo.
People didn't even believe inthem.
People thought they woulddestroy our lives.
The outcry against the simpletelephone because of this
disruption it was causing inpeople's ordinary daily routines
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, their accustomed ways ofcommunicating, was so great.
And let's be honest, we humananimals, just like most other
species, we don't like change.
Even if our routine iscomfortably uncomfortable or
uncomfortably comfortable, we'dstill prefer that to something
new.
And so, even though telepathyis not new it's just the subtler
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iteration of the telephone, andit's been around forever and we
all have access to it it canfeel more comfortably
uncomfortable or uncomfortablycomfortable to continue to hold
out doubt, to continue todisbelieve, to continue to think
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well, that's just too woo forme, and that's fine if that's
where you find yourself today,but I'm suspecting, if you are
still listening to this podcastepisode and you still haven't
turned it off, that there'ssomething more there.
And here's the other challengethat I want to just bring to the
forefront as food for thought.
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In our fast-paced, moreinformation than we can ever
process yesterday culture, weoften tend to think well, if
it's true, if it's really truethat I can do this, if it's
really true that I too can betelepathic, then why am I not
already doing it?
Well, it's the same reasonyou're not already composing
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symphonies or cooking up fivestar Michelin chef recipes?
We need practice, and especiallyfor those of us adult humans
who have gotten into theirfourth or fifth decade or more
of life, as I have and we dohave our attachment to what's
comfortably uncomfortable in ourlives, including our beliefs,
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our way of looking at the world.
Well, this is going to shakethat up.
Students of mine know, going in, that this is a change in
worldview as well as a change inyour daily habits and your
daily communications, and that'sgoing to shake some stuff loose
inside.
And it can be more of astruggle for some students than
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others, because we come withthis encrusted worldview that we
then have to chip away.
We come with our fears, we comewith our doubts.
We come with the naysayers inour lives who've gathered around
us to tell us how woo we areand how crazy we are to believe
in something like this, letalone invest our time and our
money and our energy into thistype of path.
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And yet, for those of us who doit's life-changing.
A whole new world opens up andwe remember all the rest of us,
we reconnect with all the restof us, and it doesn't mean that
it all flows like in a two-hourmovie where you see the hero or
the heroine go on their journeyand two hours later they're
happy and healthy and pulling inseven figures.
That's typically not how itworks.
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We have to examine old beliefs,we have to go through a whole
new level of self-individuationwhere we try on old us for size
and see, does that costume, doesthat space suit, does that set
of ideas and beliefs andassociations still fit?
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And if it doesn't, we have tobe brave enough to set it aside
and to kind of go naked for awhile until we can create a new
way of being that feelsintegrated, that feels authentic
, that feels lightweight,pliable, that feels natural and
freeing.
So that's where I perceive theintersection of animal telepathy
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and animal communication.
There's always more to learn.
I look forward to hearing yourinsights and your experiences
and your questions, because thisis like breaking news in the
evolutionary consciousness ofour planet and it is fast
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evolving.
There's so much more to learnand so, coming with an empty cup
with that student mentality,giving ourselves permission to
know nothing, to believe nothingand to simply try everything on
for size and see how it feels,and see how it fits, and give
ourselves the gift of having anexperience, a direct experience,
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before we make up our minds.
Well, if that isn't freedom, Idon't know what is.
So I have so enjoyed sharingthis episode with you.
I so appreciate your energy,your intention, your heart for
animals of all species,including our own.
I look forward to your thoughtsand insights and if you're new
to the let's Talk to Animalscommunity and you've enjoyed
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this episode, please do considerleaving a review on your
favorite streaming service.
It really does help me feelinspired and encouraged to
continue making these episodesfor you.
And again, if you're new, werelease a new episode every two
weeks here on let's Talk toAnimals, so hopefully you will
join us for the next episode aswell.
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If you're interested in learningmore about me, the work I do
communicating with animals,offering energy balancing and
Reiki for pets and their people,and teaching animal
communication, you can head overto animallovelanguagescom or
find me over on Instagram atloveandfeathersandshells or at
animallovelanguagescom, or findme over on Instagram at love and
feathers and shells or atanimal love languages.
So I send you all my love, allmy appreciation, all my
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gratitude and look forward towelcoming you back to let's talk
to animals very soon.
Okay, all my love.
Bye for now.
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