November 12, 2025 • 49 mins
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As pet parents, we know it is coming. For nearly all of us, we will outlive our pet, and this means we will have to navigate their end of life transition for them. But what does your pet truly want? Are they aware of what is coming in their life? Is there a way you can find out your pet's last wishes and hear from them about how they want their own death to unfold? Animal intuitive Shannon Cutts unpacks all of these questions for you through a heartfelt story of a beloved feline and her human mom.
In this episode you will learn:
- What is and isn't possible to talk about in an end of life planning animal communication conversation
- Why and how your own pet parent intuition plays a vital role in these conversations
- What types of questions your pet really wants to talk through with you before their situation becomes urgent
- What to do if your pet's end of life wishes may be difficult or even impossible to fulfill and how to navigate that together
- How having an end of life conversation with your pet now can change the entire course of your future life together
- And so much more
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SPEAKER_00 (00:04):
Welcome back to Let's Talk to Animals, the
podcast all species can enjoytogether.
My name is Shannon Cutz.
I am an animal sensitive andintuitive, a Reiki master
practitioner, and an animalcommunication teacher with
Animal Love Languages.com.
And for our purposes here today,I am also your friendly
neighborhood hostess and guidethrough the wild, wise, and
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wonderful world of interspeciescommunication.
Call me crazy, but I trulybelieve that animal
communication has the power tosave, heal, and restore our
planet for all species to enjoyand share.
When we learn to communicatewith one another, we begin to
realize we are so much morealike than different.
We care about each other.
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We become friends.
On this podcast, we talk aboutwhat the animals have to say and
share and why our pets truly areour partners, empathic friends,
and teachers.
I am so glad you have joined ushere for this fresh new episode
of Let's Talk to Animals.
So let's dive in.
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Welcome back to Let's Talk toAnimals.
Shannon here.
And today is a long overduetopic.
And I know I say that a lot, andthat is primarily because your
podcast administrativecoordinator and your podcast
planner and your podcast hostessand your podcast presenter are
all one and the same.
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And I've got a long list oftopics that I want to talk with
you about.
But one of the big ones that'sreally been cropping up a lot,
especially this year, this seemsto be a real year of
transitions.
And actually, over the lastcouple of years, we've had quite
a number of transitions of justreal deep soul pet bonds,
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long-term bonds, twin flamebonds, where I have had the
great good fortune to walkalongside some of these
interspecies families, spanningall the way back to my student
days when I was doing freeanimal communication sessions to
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get practice and buildconfidence.
And was just grateful for anyonewho was willing to permit me to
talk with their animals andgracious enough to provide a
little bit of feedback to meabout how I did.
So it's an especially poignanttopic for me.
And in fact, today I have a veryspecial story to share with you
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by way of walking you through aconversation that I truly
believe that every pet parent,animal guardian, needs to have
with your pet, with your animallove.
And that is the conversationabout our pets' end-of-life
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transition wishes.
What do they want?
What is their vision for theirend of life adventure?
It's all too easy to take a lookout into the future, whether
it's the very near future, maybeyou're listening to this and you
can see it coming and it'scoming like a freight train.
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Or maybe it's the far future.
Maybe you know that you're, orat least believe or feel that
you are going to have many, manyyears with your pet, with your
animal love, and yet it'scoming.
This is why I say that petparents, myself included, we are
oh so brave.
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Oh so brave.
Because with very, very fewexceptions, maybe some of the
larger parrot species, sometimesthe reptiles, sometimes equines,
depending on when we meet andwhat age and stage of life we
are respectively in, most of thetime we know going in that our
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pet will pass before us.
And so we know going in thatthat grief is coming, that that
end of life transition processis coming, that that fear factor
experience is coming.
And yet, because for most of us,again, I don't want to rule out
anyone who may have had adifferent experience growing up
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or comes from a culture wherethe death process and death and
dying itself is a more opentopic of conversation and even
an honored and appreciatedaspect of life.
But for most of us, it's justnot.
And it's like going on theroller coaster with all of the
fear and none of the fun.
And way back in my student days,when that one day arrived and I
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got curious enough to wonder,what does the word pet mean?
The word pet, we use itubiquitously.
Everybody knows what that means.
You don't have to explain it.
But where did it come from andwhy do we use it?
And I decided to ask the animalsthis question, and they told me,
well, that's easy.
We are your partners, empathicfriends, and teachers.
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So essentially, pet is anacronym.
And this is an aspect of lifethat they very much wish to
teach us about.
There are so many lessons we canlearn from our pet loves.
It's one of the reasons why I domy free intuitive development
for pet parents webinar series,because one of the things they
want to teach us about is ourintuition.
And you're going to hear aboutthat in today's story.
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But they also want to teach usabout the aspects of our life
that we're afraid of, not we shyaway from, maybe that we even
treat as unnatural.
So many of us have grown up incultures and certainly in a time
period where death is viewed asa comprehensive problem to be
solved and not an aspect oflife, a valued, a treasured
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aspect of life, a continuationof life.
And through that exploration, Ihave followed the animals into
the wonderful world of petreincarnation.
And that's become somewhat of afavorite request among my animal
pet parent clients and my animalcommunication community is
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exploring what happens next,really viewing the end of life,
the death and the dying processitself as an end-of-life
adventure, not finality, not anending with no new beginning.
And that's really what I want totalk with you about today.
And I want to share a veryspecial story with you.
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I'm going to share the story ofEllie.
Queen Ellie.
Those who know her knew sheembodied all aspects of that
title.
Queen Ellie the Feline.
I met Queen Ellie and her mom,Nina, when I was still a very,
very eager, nervous student.
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And my very first communicationwith Ellie happened in the
context of her feline family,her pride.
So I was talking with QueenEllie and Kitty Carlisle and
Apollo.
And I've since had the truehonor of helping support Apollo
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through his end-of-lifetransition and most recently
Queen Ellie.
And Ellie is a consonantteacher.
She is, she's a natural, as allof our pets are, but she just
really brings something specialto the experience.
And Nina and I have kept intouch over the years, and I've
had conversations here and therewith each one of her felines,
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but she reached out again mostrecently to let me know that
that freight train was coming.
And she was looking at thepossibility that Ellie would
need to transition soon.
And Nina is exceptionallyself-aware, herself, highly
intuitive.
She's a real nature baby like Iam, loves grounding, loves being
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out in nature, loves herbgardens, all those wonderful
things.
She reached out to me and shesaid, I just think we need to
have the conversation.
And I was so grateful for thisbecause I truly, truly feel like
one of my missions, and one ofmany, if you will, is it animal
intuitive in this world, ismaking that suggestion before
it's needed.
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You can have this conversation.
Animal communication allows usto do that.
We can have this conversationwith our pets.
So we're not left shoulderingall of the responsibility and
all of the burden of makingdecisions on behalf of the one
that we love so, so terriblymuch.
And never knowing whether we'reanywhere close to what they
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really wanted and craved andhoped their end-of-life
transition adventure would belike.
And so I, of course, wasabsolutely honored and
delighted.
And we had a conversation withEllie.
And in that conversation, I wasable, with Nina's help, to craft
questions to ask Ellie what shewanted and how she viewed this
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end of life season of herembodied life.
And if you've been listening toLet's Talk to Animals for Some
Time Now, you are already quiteaware that in my world, the
embodied life ending does notmean life ends.
And often it ushers in the startof a whole new series of
adventures, what I call thejoyful reunion through pet
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reincarnation.
So Ellie was eager to talk withme and to share what she wanted.
And her wishes were veryspecific.
One of the things that was soimportant to Ellie was that she
wanted to retain her dignity,her independence, her free
agency all the way up to thevery end.
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And the moment that she losteven a little crumb of that
independence, she was out.
She did not want to have thatpart of the experience.
This is one of the manywonderful gifts that we get,
that we receive, and also thatwe give to our animals when we
have these end-of-lifetransition conversations, is we
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find out where is that line inthe sand?
And it easily, easily addressesthe top fear and regret that I
work with every week when I'mfacilitating one-to-one animal
communication conversations forpet parents and their people,
which is, did I let you go toosoon or did I wait too long?
That is one of those decisionsthat can linger.
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We're left to make it all on ourown.
And we really don't know.
Maybe if we're highly intuitive,we can sense and feel into it.
But the only way to know forsure is to ask, to ask the one
who does know and does have apreference and does have a
vision for exactly what theywant their end-of-life
transition adventure to look andfeel like, and not just for
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themselves, but for everyone.
Because one of the things ourpets are so good at is living
from their right brainhemisphere.
I call it the hemisphere thathumanity forgot.
Why do we have it?
What is it good for?
What's it even up there for?
It's our connective hemisphere,it's our intuitive hemisphere,
it's the hemisphere that feelsversus the hemisphere that
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thinks.
It's the hemisphere that neverloses touch with love, but with
the bond that we share withothers.
And so this is what makes animalcommunication possible.
And this is what makes itpossible to hear from our pets
in real time to find out what doyou want?
What do you need?
And for our animals, part oftheir wants and needs always
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include us.
And so often when I'm havingthese one-to-one conversations
with pets who are going throughthis end-of-life transition,
they have questions and fearsabout you, about your
well-being, about the burdenthat you're shouldering on their
behalf, and about aspects of theend-of-life adventure, like how
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they want to be remembered andhonored and their legacy.
Sometimes they even starttalking about pet reincarnation.
And we always have to play thatone close to the vest if the pet
parent is not quite ready totalk about it.
But they have that biggerpicture connected vision, almost
like they know the future andthe past and the present all at
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once.
If you've ever watched thatbeautiful movie Arrival with Amy
Adams, you know what I'm talkingabout.
And if you haven't watched thatmovie, go and watch it.
That's your homework assignmenttoday.
So you can learn what I'mtalking about and what a
beautiful vision it can be forhow we can live.
So as I'm talking with Ellie,that was the first thing she
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highlighted.
I don't want to lose myindependence.
And you have to understand QueenEllie.
Set aside any opinions orbeliefs that you may have about
whether it's okay for cats to beindoor, outdoor, or outdoor
versus indoor only.
And just understand that fromthe earliest moments of Ellie's
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life, she was always anindoor-outdoor cat.
And she actually caught her ownfood.
And her favorite food was moles,those little cute hamster-like
animals that run around on theground.
And Ellie was a very, very goodhunter.
She was the vole's worstnightmare.
She loved to catch and eat herown prey.
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So this is a cat who was eatinga whole food diet, which is the
best of all worlds, as long asthat whole food diet doesn't
stray near any of our human-madepesticides or chemicals.
This is actually an ideal felinelife, if you think about it.
And so what made this soimportant for Queen Ellie
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personally is that she justhappened to have a very
aggressive cancer of the jawthat was slowly cutting off her
ability to use her mouth, tobreathe, to do all of the
functions that we all take forgranted.
It had created all kinds ofdisfiguration in her face, her
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eyes were slanted, but she wasstill out there, still hunting
and catching her voles.
And she was very clear with momthat the moment that she could
not do that for herself anymore,she was done.
And keep in mind, mom was alsospoon feeding her inside, wiping
up after her.
She was allowing all of that,but this was a very important
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aspect of her feline life.
And she associated it withquality of life.
And that's really what we'relooking for here.
We're looking at where's thebarometer on quality of life.
And that was very important toEllie for her quality of life.
And so when we got to the pointwhere she could no longer hunt,
catch, and eat these littlebowls that she loved, she was
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gonna lose her quality of life.
And that's the point at whichshe wanted to transition.
The next thing that she shared,and she had equally strong
feelings on this, which is sowonderful, right?
Because once we can feel andsense and know, yes, this is my
animal, and this is the strongopinion or feeling or desire
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they have about theirend-of-life adventure, well, it
takes that burden of fear awayfrom us and having this
executive authority over thechoices of another to where
we're always left wondering, didI do it right?
Did I get it right?
Did I do what you wanted?
Were you happy with how Ihandled it?
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Do you wish I'd done thingsdifferently?
Well, you no longer have tocarry that burden by yourself.
We can ask, we can ask and findout.
Ellie had very, very clear finalwishes that her body was to be
buried.
And this can be a littlechallenging, especially when I'm
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working with a pet parent whohas their own preferences or
opinions or even their ownpreset ritual.
I've worked with pet parents whohave a beautiful little urn or a
piece of jewelry or art afterthey've cremated each one of
their animal loves.
And so it can be a littleconfronting sometimes when we
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find out that we might need tobreak with that tradition.
But there are other ways ofcontinuing it.
Just because one animal wants tobe buried and another animal
wants to be cremated doesn'tmean we still can't have a
ceremonial urn or we still can'tuse a bit of their fur, for
instance, or a scale or afeather to create beautiful
jewelry or some kind ofmeaningful memento.
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So, of course, whenever I getthese strong wishes, I'm always
treading with care and empathyand patience as we talk through
the pet's final wishes.
But in this particular case, Iwas so relieved.
Nina was all ears and wanted tohonor Ellie's wishes in the
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exact way that Ellie laid out.
And she was very, very clearthat she wanted to return the
physical aspect of her.
She wanted it to return to theearth that she so loved.
She said, I want to be part ofthe earth to contribute.
I want to fertilize my herbgarden and the beautiful trees,
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and I want to infuse mygratitude, my life force essence
into the water.
I want to feed the little volesthat I've so enjoyed.
She was so clear.
And Nina was so open andimmediately started planning the
most beautiful memorial plantingunderneath a little fig tree.
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And it just became thisbeautiful, expressive project.
And one of the things that I'vediscovered first and foremost
for myself as a pet parent isthat when we grieve, we need
something to do, which is whyit's so important to find out
what our animals want and whatthey need and how to honor them.
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We need something to do.
And I often get that questionwhen I'm talking with an animal
who's in that end-of-lifeadventure process and they're
transitioning, and their personwants to know how can I honor
you?
And there's two facets to that.
One is whatever it is that we doto honor our memories of the
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animal we love so much, whetherthat is to create a little
crystal grid or make a phototriptych.
That was one of the other thingsthat that Nina did that was so
beautiful, is to make a littlephoto triptych, three different
images of Ellie with a beautifullittle butterfly.
So there are all kinds ofdifferent ways that we might
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wish to bring honor andrecognize the depth of the love
that we've shared.
But our animals often also havetheir own wishes.
I've had animals asked to becremated or buried with favorite
toys or special objects, or theyhave asked for a particular
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crystal.
One of my pet clients asked thathis mom start taking up jewelry
making again, something she hadlet lapse in part to care for
him.
Our pets, they know us.
They know what moves us and whatbrings us comfort.
I had another pet parent clientwhose horse wanted her to find a
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soft blanket that was the sameshade as his winter coat to wrap
herself up in so he could giveher a hug anytime he wanted to.
We don't have to guess.
And often they know what willbring us comfort better than we
do, because again, they livefrom their right brain
hemisphere and theirunconditionally loving heart
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versus that left brain dominantway of life that we have grown
so accustomed to, sodomesticated into, as Don Miguel
Ruiz, the Toltec Shaman, says,Ellie was very specific about
how she wanted to be honored andhow she wanted to be buried.
The other thing that we tend tofactor out, and this isn't
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always the case, but so oftenour animals have a real sense of
their timeline and around whentheir transition is going to
take place.
And by transition, I mean theirdeath, their release of the
physical body, and theirtransition into their light
body, their etheric body intowhat we might call the soul or
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the spirit space.
The animals over the years havetaught me that they view these
bodies like astronauts suits,like spacesuits.
And I've talked about that hereon the podcast before.
And when we think about what aspace suit is used for on the
moon or in outer space or in thespace station, wherever we are
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outside of Earth's atmosphere,we need to wear a spacesuit
because it keeps us fromfloating away.
But here on Earth, when we'rewearing a spacesuit, it makes it
really hard to walk.
And it's a really great analogy.
It's a really great visual andsensory analogy for what it
feels like when your pet liftsup and out of their physical
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body or spacesuit.
They float, they recalibrateinto a lighter, higher vibration
frequency.
And what happens, at least thisis my own personal experience
talking with many hundreds ofanimals who have gone through
this end-of-life adventure andtransition process.
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What happens in most cases wherethere isn't an abrupt or
immediate departure through,let's say, a sudden accident or
a catastrophic injury of somesort, where there's an immediate
departure.
In any case where there's anykind of a runway, a little bit
of lead time, what happens isthe soul begins to make what I
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have come to call murmuration.
This comes from the term forwhen we see a flock of birds
practicing, building up theirstrength, getting ready for the
long winter or springmigrations.
And it's the same way with thesoul.
I saw this very vividly when Iwas helping support my father
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through his end of life, hishospice and end-of-life
transition.
And it became very clear atcertain points that his soul was
really not in his body anymore,but his body hadn't shut down
yet.
It can be a real challenge.
It can be a real feels like agame of pinball to get out of a
physical body.
Things need to happen just so,in a very specific order, in
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order for the physical organismto shut down.
If you've ever had thatexperience of getting in your
car and turning the key, theengine doesn't turn over, but
the lights come on and thepedals still work, and you can
still use the windshield wiper.
So the car isn't running, itcan't go anywhere, but it's not
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dead either.
It's still getting fuel, it'sstill getting power, it's just
not able to move.
And that was very similar towhat I saw with my dad's hospice
and his transition experience,where his body just didn't shut
down in a linear fashion, and itbecame very difficult for his
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spirit, his soul, to get out ofhis physical body.
And so this can happen, and itdoes happen when we don't have
an abrupt transition throughwhat I just mentioned, either
maybe a very sudden issue likegastric torsion or impact
through a speeding car orsomething like that, catapults
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the soul out of the body.
In most cases, there's a littlebit of a runway, and the soul is
already doing murmurations.
And this is what infuses thatawareness of the timeline.
Well, with Ellie, she let meknow that something significant
was going to take place in thenext two weeks.
So she wasn't giving me adefinitive timeline.
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And looking back now, now keepin mind that every single time I
talk with an animal, they'reteaching me something new.
And so if you ever have asession with me and I share
things like what I share here onthe podcast, just know that I'm
not, you know, some think tankof one sitting around somewhere
kicking all this stuff up.
These are not my personalprivate pet theories about how
things work.
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This has all come from learningand experiencing and talking to
animals and hearing from theirpoint of view what happens.
And there's always more tolearn.
I'm never going to say that I'mthe ultimate authority or the
authority on any of this, butthis is just what I have learned
so far.
And one of the things that I'velearned is that often there is a
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sense of this timeline.
I've had animals say threemonths.
I've had animals say within thenext year.
With Ellie, it was two weeks.
And she did not give me claritybeyond this two-week period.
I just got a sense, and this iswhat I shared with Nina, her
mom.
I just got a sense thatsomething important was going to
shift in the next two weeks thatwould be definitive in the sense
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of giving us a sense of whenEllie was ready to go.
Ellie was also very clearthrough explaining that the
moment that she lost 100%quality of life, which to her
equated with being able to gooutside and hunt and catch and
eat her own prey and be theindoor-outdoor cat that she has
always been, she wanted to go.
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She did not want to linger.
She did not want a quote unquotenatural death.
She wanted help when her qualityof life was no longer accessible
to her.
So that was another aspect ofgiving me this two-week window
of opportunity, if you will.
Window of more information iscoming.
It was more about giving her momsigns to watch for that she was
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ready.
And that was her sign.
And within a week, she got tothat point where she could no
longer catch and safely consumeher prey.
And it was very obvious when shegot to that point.
And so, of course, the nextobvious question here as we're
going through this end-of-lifeplanning, adventure planning
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process is well, okay, so youwant an assisted passing and you
want to be buried.
Do you have any preferencesabout where, who, when, what
time of day even?
I always ask these questions.
It's very important.
And I've discovered over theyears that our pets always have
answers.
They have preferences.
And they also understand whenperhaps their preferences are
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not always able to be honored infull.
A perfect example of this is apet's desire to pass at home.
Depending on when everythinglines up, we can put the
intention out there.
We cannot control the free willthat characterizes an aspect of
this 3D human experience we'rehaving.
And that can include somethinghappening to the only vet in the
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area who's able to do in-homeeuthanasia.
And they're suddenly no longeravailable.
And so the only other option isthat we need to go to a clinic.
And so we always talk throughthese things.
When I'm having theseend-of-life adventure
conversations with the pet andtheir people, I'm always talking
through these various scenariosto make sure that we're clear if
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something that a pet wants orasks for is not able to be
provided through the shiftingsands of free will that we can
never plan for fully in advance,that they understand why.
And to find out what aspectsfeel like non-negotiables and
what aspects have a little bitmore wiggle room.
And that can be very importanttoo.
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And so with Ellie, she had avery clear idea of what she
wanted if possible.
And what she wanted was totransition around dusk.
So later in the day, afterhaving an enjoyable day with mom
and her sister Kitty Carlisle,and hopefully spending as much
time outdoors as possible andbeing able to watch the daylight
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soften.
And then she wanted totransition at home through
in-home euthanasia.
And in Ellie's case, Nina wasable to make all of that happen
and already had had time to pickout a beautiful little spot for
Ellie's burial and a perfectlittle fig tree to plant and
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serendipity grace and the beautyof our light team and the
unconditionally loving ones whowatch over us.
Two of her friends arrived tohelp dig Ellie's grave and be
with her.
And it just turned into a reallybeautiful kind of a sundown,
sunset experience for everyoneto honor Queen Ellie.
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And it was just extremely,extremely clear that it was the
right moment.
It didn't take the full twoweeks.
And Ellie was absolutely right.
There was going to be somethingsignificant within that two-week
period that would become thesignifier that, okay, mom, it's
time.
And Nina, being the beautifulsoul that she is, reached out
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after Ellie had transitioned outof her physical body, wanting to
check in, just wanting to doublecheck and make sure did I get it
all right.
We can never really completely.
Disregard or lose that sense ofcould I have done it even
better?
Because that's the part of usthat wants to honor the one we
love so much.
And as I mentioned earlier, weneed something to do.
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And when we are awakened, whenour soul is awakening and we are
really bringing what I call ouriOS, our intuitive operating
system online, as Nina has beenworking on over these years.
We also recognize that justbecause the body's gone, the
relationship is not gone.
And the proof of that is thatthe love is still there.
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If the love is still there, therelationship is still there,
physical body or no physicalbody, spacesuit or no spacesuit.
And Nina wanted to have theexperience of that continuation.
And she wanted it as quickly aspossible.
And so we checked in with QueenEllie.
And it was such a profoundconversation.
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Of course, Nina wanted to knowwhere are you now?
What is it like there?
I'm actually going to read youthe translation of what Queen
Ellie shared with me.
Of course, as an animalcommunicator, I am essentially
translating a nonverballanguage, a language of images,
sounds, sense, as in smells,tastes, tactile sensations,
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emotions, feelings, energy andmotion, and deep gut knowings.
And I'm packaging all that upand I'm translating it into
words so I can share it with, inthis case, Nina, or with you
when I'm talking with your pets.
And so when I say this is whatEllie said, what I really mean
is this is the essence ofEllie's message translated into
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words.
And I'm gonna read it to you.
Ellie said, Mine was a lifeexceptionally well lived, and I
had a good death.
That's a little tidbit from whatI call my lexicon of tells.
It's a secret intuitive languagethat we develop with ourselves
when we start learning animalcommunication.
I teach all of that insideAnimal Communication Adventure
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to Mastery, which is my studentprogram.
But it's a phrase that ismeaningful to me in a deeply
impactful way.
And so when I hear the wordsgood death, I know exactly what
that means.
And it relates to the Buddhistprecept of no unfinished
business.
All is calm and at peace.
I'm ready to go.
She said it was a good death.
This place is so pure.
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The purity of it becomes just adistant memory when we are what
she calls earth school.
It is like nothing you could putinto words.
So much love.
And that is as close as I canget to translating Ellie's
message into words.
Often when I'm communicatingwith an animal, I say to their
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human, I say, I wish we had alittle Wi-Fi or a hot spot or
something where I could justairdrop you exactly what I'm
feeling right now.
But the best I can do istranslate it into words for you.
And so that's what I'll do.
She also shared, I kept myquality of life to the last,
exactly as I wanted it to be.
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Going out the heroine in my ownlife story.
And isn't that what we want forour pet loves?
If we're being honest, isn'tthat what we want for ourselves?
So for those of you who haven'tcarved out any time and
emotional space to ponder yourown end of life adventure
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wishes, perhaps this is theinvitation you've been waiting
for to do so.
To think about what it wouldlook like for me to go out the
hero or the heroine with my ownlife story.
What would I want?
What would I need?
What would make it just perfectfor me personally?
And of course, with animalcommunication, we also have the
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ability to have thatconversation in advance for our
pets.
And what I'm about to share withyou is why I asked Nina for
permission to share Ellie'sstory on this podcast episode.
I asked Ellie what had made itso perfect for her.
And of course, just theopportunity to share in advance
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and have this planning time andhave this opportunity to have a
conversation about one of thetwo most important and impactful
events that we all, withoutquestion, without exception,
experience when we're in anembodied life adventure.
Just that ability, which so manypets don't get, was in and of
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itself deeply meaningful.
But she also went on to sharethat for her, being given the
voice and the choice to shapeher own end of life adventure,
to participate in how it wasgoing to go and what she wanted.
For her, it made the differencebetween trauma and peace.
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And of course, I wanted to knowmore about that.
So I asked her about it.
And she said, because of thecancer and what it was doing to
my jaw and my ability to eat anddrink and even breathe and move
about.
We had a heads up that therewere only two ways this was
gonna go.
And before I go further, I wantto say this is very much backed
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up by Queen Ellie's veterinaryteam, giving Nina, mom, the
heads up on this aggressivecancer and how it might take
Ellie down and some warningsigns to watch for.
And so Ellie was very aware thisthing was unstoppable.
It was slowly cutting offeverything that she needed to
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sustain her life.
And the vet had told Nina thatone of the biggest risks was
that a blood vessel would burstand she would actually suffocate
from the bleeding in her mouthand throat.
And so Ellie was very aware ofthis.
Of course, our pets are alwayslistening to us.
Right from my student days, thepets were telling me our
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favorite channel is UTV.
We watch and listen to UTV allday long.
We know you guys better than youknow yourselves.
And isn't that the truth?
And so Ellie was very aware justthrough Nina's reactions and
emotions about what was comingdown the pike for her.
She wanted none of that.
And she said, for me, beinginvited to participate in
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crafting my own end-of-lifeadventure turned it into an
adventure instead of the traumathat it was inevitably going to
become.
She was saying, and it also madethe difference between the
quality of my final memorieswith mom and her final memories
with me.
And what often happens, and thisagain is one of the most
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frequently requested sessiontypes that I do, and often it's
grief.
It's after the pet hastransitioned, and there are all
these questions about did I waittoo long?
Were you in pain?
Did I let you go too soon?
Should I have tried harder?
Should I have fought longer?
All of these questions that ourpets can actually help us to
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answer.
And in this case, Ellie issaying for me, it simplified
everything and it created lastmemories for us both that were
peaceful instead of even morepainful.
So if you can imagine thedifference using Ellie as an
example, of course, she's givenme her permission to do that.
Let's say that blood vessel hadburst, and mom Nina would have
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then been in a position ofhaving to either deal with it at
home and watch her bleed out andpass away, or rush her to the
emergency room, knowing reallyvery little, if anything, could
be done.
And then carrying that burdenforward of if only I hadn't done
this, if only I had done that,if only I kept you indoors,
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which Ellie was very clear shedidn't want.
To her, that was a loss ofquality of life, and she was out
at that point.
So there are so many factorsthat it could have contributed
in addition to the grieffirestorm that I've talked about
quite a bit here before, wherewe're just dealing with the
sudden loss of the body of theone that we love and all of the
tangible representations thatthat relationship is in our
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life, and our entire dailyroutine has been turned upside
down, and our body is floodedwith adrenaline and cortisol,
and our sympathetic nervoussystem won't shut off, and we
are in grief.
And then on top of that,carrying all of this trauma and
all of these questions and allof this self-doubt and
self-recrimination and secondguessing and backseat driving
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and being really mean toourselves at a time when we are
incredibly vulnerable and justneed comfort and empathy and
support and love.
And it literally, for Ellie andNina, cut the burden, the
emotional burden of goingthrough the grief experience in
half.
And so that's what I mean.
That's what Ellie needs when shesays, for me, being invited to
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participate in shaping myend-of-life adventure turned it
into a real adventure instead ofa crisis.
Crisis is also an adventure, butthat's the roller coaster with
all the fear and none of thefun, like we started out talking
about today.
We want the roller coaster andthe fun.
Or maybe we'd prefer a friendlyfloat.
I like tubing better than rollercoaster personally, but you
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can't tube with no water or noinner tube.
So we want the whole package.
And what Ellie is highlightinghere is by inviting your pet to
their own end-of-life adventureconversation and story, you
release the full burden thatreally should never be yours to
begin with.
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You release that and you allowyour pet to share what they
want, what they need.
You learn from them.
You feel confident and competentnavigating these steps.
You are at peace because yourpet has shared with you how they
envision it going, their grandplan for their incredible
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end-of-life transitionadventure.
So you're not second-guessingyourself every step of the way
because you know, and insteadyou have something to do,
something authentic, somethingrooted in unconditional love,
and you feel good about howyou're shepherding your pet
through their end-of-lifeexperience because you're just
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following their wishes.
You're watching for the signsthat they have given you.
And when that time comes, youknow how they want to
transition.
I've had some animals that havesaid it's very important to me
to have a natural death if atall possible.
If it's not possible, Iunderstand, but it's very
important to me.
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I really would like to have thisexperience.
And we cannot know until we ask.
Now, often when I am given theopportunity to facilitate these
types of importantconversations, I discover when
I'm sharing what the pet wantswith their human.
That human, that pet parent willthen say, you know, I kind of
thought they might want that.
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So often your intuition isthere, but you're so emotionally
compromised by the wholeexperience itself as we
inevitably are.
You just needed to hear it fromyour pet directly to really
trust what you're hearing, whatyou're feeling, what you're
sensing, what you're seeing,what you're receiving.
I'm no different when it comesto my own animals.
Doesn't mean I can't talk withmy own animals, but in those
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kinds of emotionally challengingtimes, I too appreciate a little
backup and a little help.
So what Ellie's really saying isthat not only did I have the
grief burden for my mom and formyself, but she's saying when I
got to the spirit side, theetheric realm, however you like
to think of that, therecalibrated frequency where I'm
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in my electromagnetic energeticbody rather than this physical
spacesuit, I didn't have to gothrough the full cleansing
protocol that the animals haveshared with me happens for
animals that arrive back home intheir light bodies and they are
carrying the energetic vestigesof trauma, of a lot of physical
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pain, of a lot of emotionalpain, of maybe an emergency
situation that prompted them toleave their body.
And of course, they don't hangon to that very long.
Animals that do cross andthey've had perhaps more of a
lengthy or lingering illness orsomething that hasn't resolved,
that it has placed them more inthe palliative care route to
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hospice and then transition.
What they show me looks like anold school tanning bed, if you
ever went to those back in theday, where they are just
completely enveloped in healinglight.
And all of those vestiges ofenergetic trauma memory, trauma
imprint, if you will, aretransmuted.
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We know from Einstein's theoryof relativity that energy can
never be created nor destroyed,but it can be transmuted and
transformed.
And that's what this light spadoes from what the animals have
shown me is that it transmutesand transforms those lower
vibration frequencies, thosefragments or imprints of
memories of trauma and pain,whether physical, mental,
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emotional, they're transmutedand transformed and reintegrated
into the fullness of the lightbeing.
But Ellie's saying, you know, Igot to skip that part.
Every animal goes through it.
Every human goes through it.
We all need some of that.
She's saying, I was able to passvery quickly through that
because we skipped the traumapart where it was a health
crisis that prompted the needfor me to either have an
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assisted passing througheuthanasia or I passed
naturally, but it was in themidst of a crisis.
Instead, it was peaceful and itwas beautiful and it was
perfect.
It was perfect.
I couldn't have orchestrated itbetter because I orchestrated it
myself.
And that's really where I wantto leave you today with so much
gratitude to Ellie and her mom,Nina, for permission to share
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their story first and foremost,for everything that I've learned
and all the learning I've hadprior that's just been
reinforced through the privilegeof walking this beautiful cat
and her mom through theirend-of-life adventure story
together.
And little spoiler alert, ofcourse, I may not have updates
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for you for some time, but Elliewas already making rumblings
about pet reincarnation.
And I let Nina know that.
I said, I know we're probablynot on that wavelength right
now, but as you move throughthis experience, just know that
that door is open and we maywant to have a conversation
about that at some point in thefuture.
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But for you who are listeningtoday, whether your pet's
end-of-life transition is just agleam in the eye, maybe you've
just brought home a very youngpet and you are looking forward
to many years or even decades ofadventures together.
Perhaps you're listening todayand your pet is in their prime
adult years.
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Maybe your pet is in theirgolden years that sometimes look
golden and sometimes don't lookso golden, right?
Maybe you're listening today andyour pet is throwing up some
signs, is giving you littleinklings of the transition still
to come.
Or maybe you're listening todayand that freight train is
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blowing its horn in the distanceand you can hear it coming.
And what I want you to know,regardless of where your
circumstances and your innerspecies family situation find
you today, I want you to knowthat this option is out there.
I want you to know that itexists.
That's really my whole goal forsharing this episode with you
today and for asking Nina forpermission to share her story
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with Ellie, is because I wantyou to know that when this time
comes, knowing that it's one ofthe certainties, whether this is
something that you have a legacypet who will outlive you, and
you want to have theconversation and write it into
the trust that you create forthem and into your last will and
testament for their guardian andtheir executor, or whether it's
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something that you want or feellike you need to have more
urgently, or even right now, Iwant you to know that the option
is there and that it works.
And Ellie's story is abeautiful, perfect example of
how well it can work.
And in Ellie's own words,transform what could have been a
traumatic end-of-life transitioninto a true end-of-life
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adventure.
So if you need support withthat, if you need help with
that, you know where to find me.
All my information is in theshow notes.
And if this episode has beensupportive to you and your
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Okay, all my love.
Bye for now.
Welcome back to Let's Talk to Animals, the
podcast all species can enjoytogether.
My name is Shannon Cutz.
I am an animal sensitive andintuitive, a Reiki master
practitioner, and an animalcommunication teacher with
Animal Love Languages.com.
And for our purposes here today,I am also your friendly
neighborhood hostess and guidethrough the wild, wise, and
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wonderful world of interspeciescommunication.
Call me crazy, but I trulybelieve that animal
communication has the power tosave, heal, and restore our
planet for all species to enjoyand share.
When we learn to communicatewith one another, we begin to
realize we are so much morealike than different.
We care about each other.
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We become friends.
On this podcast, we talk aboutwhat the animals have to say and
share and why our pets truly areour partners, empathic friends,
and teachers.
I am so glad you have joined ushere for this fresh new episode
of Let's Talk to Animals.
So let's dive in.
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Welcome back to Let's Talk toAnimals.
Shannon here.
And today is a long overduetopic.
And I know I say that a lot, andthat is primarily because your
podcast administrativecoordinator and your podcast
planner and your podcast hostessand your podcast presenter are
all one and the same.
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And I've got a long list oftopics that I want to talk with
you about.
But one of the big ones that'sreally been cropping up a lot,
especially this year, this seemsto be a real year of
transitions.
And actually, over the lastcouple of years, we've had quite
a number of transitions of justreal deep soul pet bonds,
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long-term bonds, twin flamebonds, where I have had the
great good fortune to walkalongside some of these
interspecies families, spanningall the way back to my student
days when I was doing freeanimal communication sessions to
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get practice and buildconfidence.
And was just grateful for anyonewho was willing to permit me to
talk with their animals andgracious enough to provide a
little bit of feedback to meabout how I did.
So it's an especially poignanttopic for me.
And in fact, today I have a veryspecial story to share with you
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by way of walking you through aconversation that I truly
believe that every pet parent,animal guardian, needs to have
with your pet, with your animallove.
And that is the conversationabout our pets' end-of-life
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transition wishes.
What do they want?
What is their vision for theirend of life adventure?
It's all too easy to take a lookout into the future, whether
it's the very near future, maybeyou're listening to this and you
can see it coming and it'scoming like a freight train.
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Or maybe it's the far future.
Maybe you know that you're, orat least believe or feel that
you are going to have many, manyyears with your pet, with your
animal love, and yet it'scoming.
This is why I say that petparents, myself included, we are
oh so brave.
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Oh so brave.
Because with very, very fewexceptions, maybe some of the
larger parrot species, sometimesthe reptiles, sometimes equines,
depending on when we meet andwhat age and stage of life we
are respectively in, most of thetime we know going in that our
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pet will pass before us.
And so we know going in thatthat grief is coming, that that
end of life transition processis coming, that that fear factor
experience is coming.
And yet, because for most of us,again, I don't want to rule out
anyone who may have had adifferent experience growing up
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or comes from a culture wherethe death process and death and
dying itself is a more opentopic of conversation and even
an honored and appreciatedaspect of life.
But for most of us, it's justnot.
And it's like going on theroller coaster with all of the
fear and none of the fun.
And way back in my student days,when that one day arrived and I
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got curious enough to wonder,what does the word pet mean?
The word pet, we use itubiquitously.
Everybody knows what that means.
You don't have to explain it.
But where did it come from andwhy do we use it?
And I decided to ask the animalsthis question, and they told me,
well, that's easy.
We are your partners, empathicfriends, and teachers.
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So essentially, pet is anacronym.
And this is an aspect of lifethat they very much wish to
teach us about.
There are so many lessons we canlearn from our pet loves.
It's one of the reasons why I domy free intuitive development
for pet parents webinar series,because one of the things they
want to teach us about is ourintuition.
And you're going to hear aboutthat in today's story.
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But they also want to teach usabout the aspects of our life
that we're afraid of, not we shyaway from, maybe that we even
treat as unnatural.
So many of us have grown up incultures and certainly in a time
period where death is viewed asa comprehensive problem to be
solved and not an aspect oflife, a valued, a treasured
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aspect of life, a continuationof life.
And through that exploration, Ihave followed the animals into
the wonderful world of petreincarnation.
And that's become somewhat of afavorite request among my animal
pet parent clients and my animalcommunication community is
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exploring what happens next,really viewing the end of life,
the death and the dying processitself as an end-of-life
adventure, not finality, not anending with no new beginning.
And that's really what I want totalk with you about today.
And I want to share a veryspecial story with you.
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I'm going to share the story ofEllie.
Queen Ellie.
Those who know her knew sheembodied all aspects of that
title.
Queen Ellie the Feline.
I met Queen Ellie and her mom,Nina, when I was still a very,
very eager, nervous student.
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And my very first communicationwith Ellie happened in the
context of her feline family,her pride.
So I was talking with QueenEllie and Kitty Carlisle and
Apollo.
And I've since had the truehonor of helping support Apollo
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through his end-of-lifetransition and most recently
Queen Ellie.
And Ellie is a consonantteacher.
She is, she's a natural, as allof our pets are, but she just
really brings something specialto the experience.
And Nina and I have kept intouch over the years, and I've
had conversations here and therewith each one of her felines,
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but she reached out again mostrecently to let me know that
that freight train was coming.
And she was looking at thepossibility that Ellie would
need to transition soon.
And Nina is exceptionallyself-aware, herself, highly
intuitive.
She's a real nature baby like Iam, loves grounding, loves being
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out in nature, loves herbgardens, all those wonderful
things.
She reached out to me and shesaid, I just think we need to
have the conversation.
And I was so grateful for thisbecause I truly, truly feel like
one of my missions, and one ofmany, if you will, is it animal
intuitive in this world, ismaking that suggestion before
it's needed.
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You can have this conversation.
Animal communication allows usto do that.
We can have this conversationwith our pets.
So we're not left shoulderingall of the responsibility and
all of the burden of makingdecisions on behalf of the one
that we love so, so terriblymuch.
And never knowing whether we'reanywhere close to what they
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really wanted and craved andhoped their end-of-life
transition adventure would belike.
And so I, of course, wasabsolutely honored and
delighted.
And we had a conversation withEllie.
And in that conversation, I wasable, with Nina's help, to craft
questions to ask Ellie what shewanted and how she viewed this
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end of life season of herembodied life.
And if you've been listening toLet's Talk to Animals for Some
Time Now, you are already quiteaware that in my world, the
embodied life ending does notmean life ends.
And often it ushers in the startof a whole new series of
adventures, what I call thejoyful reunion through pet
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reincarnation.
So Ellie was eager to talk withme and to share what she wanted.
And her wishes were veryspecific.
One of the things that was soimportant to Ellie was that she
wanted to retain her dignity,her independence, her free
agency all the way up to thevery end.
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And the moment that she losteven a little crumb of that
independence, she was out.
She did not want to have thatpart of the experience.
This is one of the manywonderful gifts that we get,
that we receive, and also thatwe give to our animals when we
have these end-of-lifetransition conversations, is we
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find out where is that line inthe sand?
And it easily, easily addressesthe top fear and regret that I
work with every week when I'mfacilitating one-to-one animal
communication conversations forpet parents and their people,
which is, did I let you go toosoon or did I wait too long?
That is one of those decisionsthat can linger.
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We're left to make it all on ourown.
And we really don't know.
Maybe if we're highly intuitive,we can sense and feel into it.
But the only way to know forsure is to ask, to ask the one
who does know and does have apreference and does have a
vision for exactly what theywant their end-of-life
transition adventure to look andfeel like, and not just for
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themselves, but for everyone.
Because one of the things ourpets are so good at is living
from their right brainhemisphere.
I call it the hemisphere thathumanity forgot.
Why do we have it?
What is it good for?
What's it even up there for?
It's our connective hemisphere,it's our intuitive hemisphere,
it's the hemisphere that feelsversus the hemisphere that
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thinks.
It's the hemisphere that neverloses touch with love, but with
the bond that we share withothers.
And so this is what makes animalcommunication possible.
And this is what makes itpossible to hear from our pets
in real time to find out what doyou want?
What do you need?
And for our animals, part oftheir wants and needs always
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include us.
And so often when I'm havingthese one-to-one conversations
with pets who are going throughthis end-of-life transition,
they have questions and fearsabout you, about your
well-being, about the burdenthat you're shouldering on their
behalf, and about aspects of theend-of-life adventure, like how
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they want to be remembered andhonored and their legacy.
Sometimes they even starttalking about pet reincarnation.
And we always have to play thatone close to the vest if the pet
parent is not quite ready totalk about it.
But they have that biggerpicture connected vision, almost
like they know the future andthe past and the present all at
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once.
If you've ever watched thatbeautiful movie Arrival with Amy
Adams, you know what I'm talkingabout.
And if you haven't watched thatmovie, go and watch it.
That's your homework assignmenttoday.
So you can learn what I'mtalking about and what a
beautiful vision it can be forhow we can live.
So as I'm talking with Ellie,that was the first thing she
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highlighted.
I don't want to lose myindependence.
And you have to understand QueenEllie.
Set aside any opinions orbeliefs that you may have about
whether it's okay for cats to beindoor, outdoor, or outdoor
versus indoor only.
And just understand that fromthe earliest moments of Ellie's
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life, she was always anindoor-outdoor cat.
And she actually caught her ownfood.
And her favorite food was moles,those little cute hamster-like
animals that run around on theground.
And Ellie was a very, very goodhunter.
She was the vole's worstnightmare.
She loved to catch and eat herown prey.
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So this is a cat who was eatinga whole food diet, which is the
best of all worlds, as long asthat whole food diet doesn't
stray near any of our human-madepesticides or chemicals.
This is actually an ideal felinelife, if you think about it.
And so what made this soimportant for Queen Ellie
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personally is that she justhappened to have a very
aggressive cancer of the jawthat was slowly cutting off her
ability to use her mouth, tobreathe, to do all of the
functions that we all take forgranted.
It had created all kinds ofdisfiguration in her face, her
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eyes were slanted, but she wasstill out there, still hunting
and catching her voles.
And she was very clear with momthat the moment that she could
not do that for herself anymore,she was done.
And keep in mind, mom was alsospoon feeding her inside, wiping
up after her.
She was allowing all of that,but this was a very important
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aspect of her feline life.
And she associated it withquality of life.
And that's really what we'relooking for here.
We're looking at where's thebarometer on quality of life.
And that was very important toEllie for her quality of life.
And so when we got to the pointwhere she could no longer hunt,
catch, and eat these littlebowls that she loved, she was
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gonna lose her quality of life.
And that's the point at whichshe wanted to transition.
The next thing that she shared,and she had equally strong
feelings on this, which is sowonderful, right?
Because once we can feel andsense and know, yes, this is my
animal, and this is the strongopinion or feeling or desire
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they have about theirend-of-life adventure, well, it
takes that burden of fear awayfrom us and having this
executive authority over thechoices of another to where
we're always left wondering, didI do it right?
Did I get it right?
Did I do what you wanted?
Were you happy with how Ihandled it?
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Do you wish I'd done thingsdifferently?
Well, you no longer have tocarry that burden by yourself.
We can ask, we can ask and findout.
Ellie had very, very clear finalwishes that her body was to be
buried.
And this can be a littlechallenging, especially when I'm
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working with a pet parent whohas their own preferences or
opinions or even their ownpreset ritual.
I've worked with pet parents whohave a beautiful little urn or a
piece of jewelry or art afterthey've cremated each one of
their animal loves.
And so it can be a littleconfronting sometimes when we
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find out that we might need tobreak with that tradition.
But there are other ways ofcontinuing it.
Just because one animal wants tobe buried and another animal
wants to be cremated doesn'tmean we still can't have a
ceremonial urn or we still can'tuse a bit of their fur, for
instance, or a scale or afeather to create beautiful
jewelry or some kind ofmeaningful memento.
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So, of course, whenever I getthese strong wishes, I'm always
treading with care and empathyand patience as we talk through
the pet's final wishes.
But in this particular case, Iwas so relieved.
Nina was all ears and wanted tohonor Ellie's wishes in the
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exact way that Ellie laid out.
And she was very, very clearthat she wanted to return the
physical aspect of her.
She wanted it to return to theearth that she so loved.
She said, I want to be part ofthe earth to contribute.
I want to fertilize my herbgarden and the beautiful trees,
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and I want to infuse mygratitude, my life force essence
into the water.
I want to feed the little volesthat I've so enjoyed.
She was so clear.
And Nina was so open andimmediately started planning the
most beautiful memorial plantingunderneath a little fig tree.
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And it just became thisbeautiful, expressive project.
And one of the things that I'vediscovered first and foremost
for myself as a pet parent isthat when we grieve, we need
something to do, which is whyit's so important to find out
what our animals want and whatthey need and how to honor them.
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We need something to do.
And I often get that questionwhen I'm talking with an animal
who's in that end-of-lifeadventure process and they're
transitioning, and their personwants to know how can I honor
you?
And there's two facets to that.
One is whatever it is that we doto honor our memories of the
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animal we love so much, whetherthat is to create a little
crystal grid or make a phototriptych.
That was one of the other thingsthat that Nina did that was so
beautiful, is to make a littlephoto triptych, three different
images of Ellie with a beautifullittle butterfly.
So there are all kinds ofdifferent ways that we might
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wish to bring honor andrecognize the depth of the love
that we've shared.
But our animals often also havetheir own wishes.
I've had animals asked to becremated or buried with favorite
toys or special objects, or theyhave asked for a particular
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crystal.
One of my pet clients asked thathis mom start taking up jewelry
making again, something she hadlet lapse in part to care for
him.
Our pets, they know us.
They know what moves us and whatbrings us comfort.
I had another pet parent clientwhose horse wanted her to find a
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soft blanket that was the sameshade as his winter coat to wrap
herself up in so he could giveher a hug anytime he wanted to.
We don't have to guess.
And often they know what willbring us comfort better than we
do, because again, they livefrom their right brain
hemisphere and theirunconditionally loving heart
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versus that left brain dominantway of life that we have grown
so accustomed to, sodomesticated into, as Don Miguel
Ruiz, the Toltec Shaman, says,Ellie was very specific about
how she wanted to be honored andhow she wanted to be buried.
The other thing that we tend tofactor out, and this isn't
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always the case, but so oftenour animals have a real sense of
their timeline and around whentheir transition is going to
take place.
And by transition, I mean theirdeath, their release of the
physical body, and theirtransition into their light
body, their etheric body intowhat we might call the soul or
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the spirit space.
The animals over the years havetaught me that they view these
bodies like astronauts suits,like spacesuits.
And I've talked about that hereon the podcast before.
And when we think about what aspace suit is used for on the
moon or in outer space or in thespace station, wherever we are
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outside of Earth's atmosphere,we need to wear a spacesuit
because it keeps us fromfloating away.
But here on Earth, when we'rewearing a spacesuit, it makes it
really hard to walk.
And it's a really great analogy.
It's a really great visual andsensory analogy for what it
feels like when your pet liftsup and out of their physical
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body or spacesuit.
They float, they recalibrateinto a lighter, higher vibration
frequency.
And what happens, at least thisis my own personal experience
talking with many hundreds ofanimals who have gone through
this end-of-life adventure andtransition process.
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What happens in most cases wherethere isn't an abrupt or
immediate departure through,let's say, a sudden accident or
a catastrophic injury of somesort, where there's an immediate
departure.
In any case where there's anykind of a runway, a little bit
of lead time, what happens isthe soul begins to make what I
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have come to call murmuration.
This comes from the term forwhen we see a flock of birds
practicing, building up theirstrength, getting ready for the
long winter or springmigrations.
And it's the same way with thesoul.
I saw this very vividly when Iwas helping support my father
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through his end of life, hishospice and end-of-life
transition.
And it became very clear atcertain points that his soul was
really not in his body anymore,but his body hadn't shut down
yet.
It can be a real challenge.
It can be a real feels like agame of pinball to get out of a
physical body.
Things need to happen just so,in a very specific order, in
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order for the physical organismto shut down.
If you've ever had thatexperience of getting in your
car and turning the key, theengine doesn't turn over, but
the lights come on and thepedals still work, and you can
still use the windshield wiper.
So the car isn't running, itcan't go anywhere, but it's not
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dead either.
It's still getting fuel, it'sstill getting power, it's just
not able to move.
And that was very similar towhat I saw with my dad's hospice
and his transition experience,where his body just didn't shut
down in a linear fashion, and itbecame very difficult for his
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spirit, his soul, to get out ofhis physical body.
And so this can happen, and itdoes happen when we don't have
an abrupt transition throughwhat I just mentioned, either
maybe a very sudden issue likegastric torsion or impact
through a speeding car orsomething like that, catapults
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the soul out of the body.
In most cases, there's a littlebit of a runway, and the soul is
already doing murmurations.
And this is what infuses thatawareness of the timeline.
Well, with Ellie, she let meknow that something significant
was going to take place in thenext two weeks.
So she wasn't giving me adefinitive timeline.
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And looking back now, now keepin mind that every single time I
talk with an animal, they'reteaching me something new.
And so if you ever have asession with me and I share
things like what I share here onthe podcast, just know that I'm
not, you know, some think tankof one sitting around somewhere
kicking all this stuff up.
These are not my personalprivate pet theories about how
things work.
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This has all come from learningand experiencing and talking to
animals and hearing from theirpoint of view what happens.
And there's always more tolearn.
I'm never going to say that I'mthe ultimate authority or the
authority on any of this, butthis is just what I have learned
so far.
And one of the things that I'velearned is that often there is a
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sense of this timeline.
I've had animals say threemonths.
I've had animals say within thenext year.
With Ellie, it was two weeks.
And she did not give me claritybeyond this two-week period.
I just got a sense, and this iswhat I shared with Nina, her
mom.
I just got a sense thatsomething important was going to
shift in the next two weeks thatwould be definitive in the sense
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of giving us a sense of whenEllie was ready to go.
Ellie was also very clearthrough explaining that the
moment that she lost 100%quality of life, which to her
equated with being able to gooutside and hunt and catch and
eat her own prey and be theindoor-outdoor cat that she has
always been, she wanted to go.
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She did not want to linger.
She did not want a quote unquotenatural death.
She wanted help when her qualityof life was no longer accessible
to her.
So that was another aspect ofgiving me this two-week window
of opportunity, if you will.
Window of more information iscoming.
It was more about giving her momsigns to watch for that she was
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ready.
And that was her sign.
And within a week, she got tothat point where she could no
longer catch and safely consumeher prey.
And it was very obvious when shegot to that point.
And so, of course, the nextobvious question here as we're
going through this end-of-lifeplanning, adventure planning
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process is well, okay, so youwant an assisted passing and you
want to be buried.
Do you have any preferencesabout where, who, when, what
time of day even?
I always ask these questions.
It's very important.
And I've discovered over theyears that our pets always have
answers.
They have preferences.
And they also understand whenperhaps their preferences are
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not always able to be honored infull.
A perfect example of this is apet's desire to pass at home.
Depending on when everythinglines up, we can put the
intention out there.
We cannot control the free willthat characterizes an aspect of
this 3D human experience we'rehaving.
And that can include somethinghappening to the only vet in the
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area who's able to do in-homeeuthanasia.
And they're suddenly no longeravailable.
And so the only other option isthat we need to go to a clinic.
And so we always talk throughthese things.
When I'm having theseend-of-life adventure
conversations with the pet andtheir people, I'm always talking
through these various scenariosto make sure that we're clear if
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something that a pet wants orasks for is not able to be
provided through the shiftingsands of free will that we can
never plan for fully in advance,that they understand why.
And to find out what aspectsfeel like non-negotiables and
what aspects have a little bitmore wiggle room.
And that can be very importanttoo.
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And so with Ellie, she had avery clear idea of what she
wanted if possible.
And what she wanted was totransition around dusk.
So later in the day, afterhaving an enjoyable day with mom
and her sister Kitty Carlisle,and hopefully spending as much
time outdoors as possible andbeing able to watch the daylight
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soften.
And then she wanted totransition at home through
in-home euthanasia.
And in Ellie's case, Nina wasable to make all of that happen
and already had had time to pickout a beautiful little spot for
Ellie's burial and a perfectlittle fig tree to plant and
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serendipity grace and the beautyof our light team and the
unconditionally loving ones whowatch over us.
Two of her friends arrived tohelp dig Ellie's grave and be
with her.
And it just turned into a reallybeautiful kind of a sundown,
sunset experience for everyoneto honor Queen Ellie.
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And it was just extremely,extremely clear that it was the
right moment.
It didn't take the full twoweeks.
And Ellie was absolutely right.
There was going to be somethingsignificant within that two-week
period that would become thesignifier that, okay, mom, it's
time.
And Nina, being the beautifulsoul that she is, reached out
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after Ellie had transitioned outof her physical body, wanting to
check in, just wanting to doublecheck and make sure did I get it
all right.
We can never really completely.
Disregard or lose that sense ofcould I have done it even
better?
Because that's the part of usthat wants to honor the one we
love so much.
And as I mentioned earlier, weneed something to do.
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And when we are awakened, whenour soul is awakening and we are
really bringing what I call ouriOS, our intuitive operating
system online, as Nina has beenworking on over these years.
We also recognize that justbecause the body's gone, the
relationship is not gone.
And the proof of that is thatthe love is still there.
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If the love is still there, therelationship is still there,
physical body or no physicalbody, spacesuit or no spacesuit.
And Nina wanted to have theexperience of that continuation.
And she wanted it as quickly aspossible.
And so we checked in with QueenEllie.
And it was such a profoundconversation.
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Of course, Nina wanted to knowwhere are you now?
What is it like there?
I'm actually going to read youthe translation of what Queen
Ellie shared with me.
Of course, as an animalcommunicator, I am essentially
translating a nonverballanguage, a language of images,
sounds, sense, as in smells,tastes, tactile sensations,
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emotions, feelings, energy andmotion, and deep gut knowings.
And I'm packaging all that upand I'm translating it into
words so I can share it with, inthis case, Nina, or with you
when I'm talking with your pets.
And so when I say this is whatEllie said, what I really mean
is this is the essence ofEllie's message translated into
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words.
And I'm gonna read it to you.
Ellie said, Mine was a lifeexceptionally well lived, and I
had a good death.
That's a little tidbit from whatI call my lexicon of tells.
It's a secret intuitive languagethat we develop with ourselves
when we start learning animalcommunication.
I teach all of that insideAnimal Communication Adventure
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to Mastery, which is my studentprogram.
But it's a phrase that ismeaningful to me in a deeply
impactful way.
And so when I hear the wordsgood death, I know exactly what
that means.
And it relates to the Buddhistprecept of no unfinished
business.
All is calm and at peace.
I'm ready to go.
She said it was a good death.
This place is so pure.
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The purity of it becomes just adistant memory when we are what
she calls earth school.
It is like nothing you could putinto words.
So much love.
And that is as close as I canget to translating Ellie's
message into words.
Often when I'm communicatingwith an animal, I say to their
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human, I say, I wish we had alittle Wi-Fi or a hot spot or
something where I could justairdrop you exactly what I'm
feeling right now.
But the best I can do istranslate it into words for you.
And so that's what I'll do.
She also shared, I kept myquality of life to the last,
exactly as I wanted it to be.
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Going out the heroine in my ownlife story.
And isn't that what we want forour pet loves?
If we're being honest, isn'tthat what we want for ourselves?
So for those of you who haven'tcarved out any time and
emotional space to ponder yourown end of life adventure
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wishes, perhaps this is theinvitation you've been waiting
for to do so.
To think about what it wouldlook like for me to go out the
hero or the heroine with my ownlife story.
What would I want?
What would I need?
What would make it just perfectfor me personally?
And of course, with animalcommunication, we also have the
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ability to have thatconversation in advance for our
pets.
And what I'm about to share withyou is why I asked Nina for
permission to share Ellie'sstory on this podcast episode.
I asked Ellie what had made itso perfect for her.
And of course, just theopportunity to share in advance
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and have this planning time andhave this opportunity to have a
conversation about one of thetwo most important and impactful
events that we all, withoutquestion, without exception,
experience when we're in anembodied life adventure.
Just that ability, which so manypets don't get, was in and of
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itself deeply meaningful.
But she also went on to sharethat for her, being given the
voice and the choice to shapeher own end of life adventure,
to participate in how it wasgoing to go and what she wanted.
For her, it made the differencebetween trauma and peace.
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And of course, I wanted to knowmore about that.
So I asked her about it.
And she said, because of thecancer and what it was doing to
my jaw and my ability to eat anddrink and even breathe and move
about.
We had a heads up that therewere only two ways this was
gonna go.
And before I go further, I wantto say this is very much backed
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up by Queen Ellie's veterinaryteam, giving Nina, mom, the
heads up on this aggressivecancer and how it might take
Ellie down and some warningsigns to watch for.
And so Ellie was very aware thisthing was unstoppable.
It was slowly cutting offeverything that she needed to
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sustain her life.
And the vet had told Nina thatone of the biggest risks was
that a blood vessel would burstand she would actually suffocate
from the bleeding in her mouthand throat.
And so Ellie was very aware ofthis.
Of course, our pets are alwayslistening to us.
Right from my student days, thepets were telling me our
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favorite channel is UTV.
We watch and listen to UTV allday long.
We know you guys better than youknow yourselves.
And isn't that the truth?
And so Ellie was very aware justthrough Nina's reactions and
emotions about what was comingdown the pike for her.
She wanted none of that.
And she said, for me, beinginvited to participate in
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crafting my own end-of-lifeadventure turned it into an
adventure instead of the traumathat it was inevitably going to
become.
She was saying, and it also madethe difference between the
quality of my final memorieswith mom and her final memories
with me.
And what often happens, and thisagain is one of the most
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frequently requested sessiontypes that I do, and often it's
grief.
It's after the pet hastransitioned, and there are all
these questions about did I waittoo long?
Were you in pain?
Did I let you go too soon?
Should I have tried harder?
Should I have fought longer?
All of these questions that ourpets can actually help us to
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answer.
And in this case, Ellie issaying for me, it simplified
everything and it created lastmemories for us both that were
peaceful instead of even morepainful.
So if you can imagine thedifference using Ellie as an
example, of course, she's givenme her permission to do that.
Let's say that blood vessel hadburst, and mom Nina would have
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then been in a position ofhaving to either deal with it at
home and watch her bleed out andpass away, or rush her to the
emergency room, knowing reallyvery little, if anything, could
be done.
And then carrying that burdenforward of if only I hadn't done
this, if only I had done that,if only I kept you indoors,
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which Ellie was very clear shedidn't want.
To her, that was a loss ofquality of life, and she was out
at that point.
So there are so many factorsthat it could have contributed
in addition to the grieffirestorm that I've talked about
quite a bit here before, wherewe're just dealing with the
sudden loss of the body of theone that we love and all of the
tangible representations thatthat relationship is in our
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life, and our entire dailyroutine has been turned upside
down, and our body is floodedwith adrenaline and cortisol,
and our sympathetic nervoussystem won't shut off, and we
are in grief.
And then on top of that,carrying all of this trauma and
all of these questions and allof this self-doubt and
self-recrimination and secondguessing and backseat driving
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and being really mean toourselves at a time when we are
incredibly vulnerable and justneed comfort and empathy and
support and love.
And it literally, for Ellie andNina, cut the burden, the
emotional burden of goingthrough the grief experience in
half.
And so that's what I mean.
That's what Ellie needs when shesays, for me, being invited to
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participate in shaping myend-of-life adventure turned it
into a real adventure instead ofa crisis.
Crisis is also an adventure, butthat's the roller coaster with
all the fear and none of thefun, like we started out talking
about today.
We want the roller coaster andthe fun.
Or maybe we'd prefer a friendlyfloat.
I like tubing better than rollercoaster personally, but you
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can't tube with no water or noinner tube.
So we want the whole package.
And what Ellie is highlightinghere is by inviting your pet to
their own end-of-life adventureconversation and story, you
release the full burden thatreally should never be yours to
begin with.
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You release that and you allowyour pet to share what they
want, what they need.
You learn from them.
You feel confident and competentnavigating these steps.
You are at peace because yourpet has shared with you how they
envision it going, their grandplan for their incredible
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end-of-life transitionadventure.
So you're not second-guessingyourself every step of the way
because you know, and insteadyou have something to do,
something authentic, somethingrooted in unconditional love,
and you feel good about howyou're shepherding your pet
through their end-of-lifeexperience because you're just
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following their wishes.
You're watching for the signsthat they have given you.
And when that time comes, youknow how they want to
transition.
I've had some animals that havesaid it's very important to me
to have a natural death if atall possible.
If it's not possible, Iunderstand, but it's very
important to me.
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I really would like to have thisexperience.
And we cannot know until we ask.
Now, often when I am given theopportunity to facilitate these
types of importantconversations, I discover when
I'm sharing what the pet wantswith their human.
That human, that pet parent willthen say, you know, I kind of
thought they might want that.
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So often your intuition isthere, but you're so emotionally
compromised by the wholeexperience itself as we
inevitably are.
You just needed to hear it fromyour pet directly to really
trust what you're hearing, whatyou're feeling, what you're
sensing, what you're seeing,what you're receiving.
I'm no different when it comesto my own animals.
Doesn't mean I can't talk withmy own animals, but in those
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kinds of emotionally challengingtimes, I too appreciate a little
backup and a little help.
So what Ellie's really saying isthat not only did I have the
grief burden for my mom and formyself, but she's saying when I
got to the spirit side, theetheric realm, however you like
to think of that, therecalibrated frequency where I'm
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in my electromagnetic energeticbody rather than this physical
spacesuit, I didn't have to gothrough the full cleansing
protocol that the animals haveshared with me happens for
animals that arrive back home intheir light bodies and they are
carrying the energetic vestigesof trauma, of a lot of physical
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pain, of a lot of emotionalpain, of maybe an emergency
situation that prompted them toleave their body.
And of course, they don't hangon to that very long.
Animals that do cross andthey've had perhaps more of a
lengthy or lingering illness orsomething that hasn't resolved,
that it has placed them more inthe palliative care route to
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hospice and then transition.
What they show me looks like anold school tanning bed, if you
ever went to those back in theday, where they are just
completely enveloped in healinglight.
And all of those vestiges ofenergetic trauma memory, trauma
imprint, if you will, aretransmuted.
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We know from Einstein's theoryof relativity that energy can
never be created nor destroyed,but it can be transmuted and
transformed.
And that's what this light spadoes from what the animals have
shown me is that it transmutesand transforms those lower
vibration frequencies, thosefragments or imprints of
memories of trauma and pain,whether physical, mental,
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emotional, they're transmutedand transformed and reintegrated
into the fullness of the lightbeing.
But Ellie's saying, you know, Igot to skip that part.
Every animal goes through it.
Every human goes through it.
We all need some of that.
She's saying, I was able to passvery quickly through that
because we skipped the traumapart where it was a health
crisis that prompted the needfor me to either have an
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assisted passing througheuthanasia or I passed
naturally, but it was in themidst of a crisis.
Instead, it was peaceful and itwas beautiful and it was
perfect.
It was perfect.
I couldn't have orchestrated itbetter because I orchestrated it
myself.
And that's really where I wantto leave you today with so much
gratitude to Ellie and her mom,Nina, for permission to share
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their story first and foremost,for everything that I've learned
and all the learning I've hadprior that's just been
reinforced through the privilegeof walking this beautiful cat
and her mom through theirend-of-life adventure story
together.
And little spoiler alert, ofcourse, I may not have updates
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for you for some time, but Elliewas already making rumblings
about pet reincarnation.
And I let Nina know that.
I said, I know we're probablynot on that wavelength right
now, but as you move throughthis experience, just know that
that door is open and we maywant to have a conversation
about that at some point in thefuture.
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But for you who are listeningtoday, whether your pet's
end-of-life transition is just agleam in the eye, maybe you've
just brought home a very youngpet and you are looking forward
to many years or even decades ofadventures together.
Perhaps you're listening todayand your pet is in their prime
adult years.
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Maybe your pet is in theirgolden years that sometimes look
golden and sometimes don't lookso golden, right?
Maybe you're listening today andyour pet is throwing up some
signs, is giving you littleinklings of the transition still
to come.
Or maybe you're listening todayand that freight train is
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blowing its horn in the distanceand you can hear it coming.
And what I want you to know,regardless of where your
circumstances and your innerspecies family situation find
you today, I want you to knowthat this option is out there.
I want you to know that itexists.
That's really my whole goal forsharing this episode with you
today and for asking Nina forpermission to share her story
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with Ellie, is because I wantyou to know that when this time
comes, knowing that it's one ofthe certainties, whether this is
something that you have a legacypet who will outlive you, and
you want to have theconversation and write it into
the trust that you create forthem and into your last will and
testament for their guardian andtheir executor, or whether it's
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something that you want or feellike you need to have more
urgently, or even right now, Iwant you to know that the option
is there and that it works.
And Ellie's story is abeautiful, perfect example of
how well it can work.
And in Ellie's own words,transform what could have been a
traumatic end-of-life transitioninto a true end-of-life
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adventure.
So if you need support withthat, if you need help with
that, you know where to find me.
All my information is in theshow notes.
And if this episode has beensupportive to you and your
interspecies family, please dotake a moment to leave a review,
to share a comment, to let meknow.
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It always inspires me to hearfrom you and lets me know that I
am on the right track in termsof the episodes I invest my time
and energy into preparing foryou.
And most importantly, if youhave a request or a question
about anything that I covered intoday's episode, please do drop
a comment and let me knowbecause it helps shape future
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content here at Let's Talk toAnimals that we can enjoy and
explore together.
So until next time, I send youand your pet family all my pubs.
Okay, bye for now.
I have so enjoyed sharing thisepisode with you.
If you're new to the Let's Talkto Animals community and you've
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enjoyed this episode, please doleave us a review on your
favorite streaming service ordrop a comment wherever you'd
like to listen.
I love to hear from you, andyour feedback truly helps me
shape future episodes based onyour interests and needs.
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If you're interested in learningmore about the work I do
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animal communication, pleasevisit me at animal
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Click on Schedule for PetSessions and Programs for all
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the information about my newanimal communication adventure
to master your student programand the live animal
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And I look forward to welcomingyou back here very soon for a
fresh new episode of Let's Talkto Animals.
Okay, all my love.
Bye for now.
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