September 9, 2025 • 24 mins
Episode Summary
From the backwoods of Mississippi to the halls of UC Davis, Algie Mosley’s journey is a masterclass in resilience, vision, and faith. In this powerful episode of the Let’s Think About It Podcast, Coach Mo and Algie—longtime friends and now collaborators—dive deep into what it takes to rise above doubt, reprogram limiting beliefs, and build a life rooted in purpose. Algie shares his story of transformation sparked by The Power of the Subconscious Mind, the pivotal moments that reshaped his character, and his mission to inspire others through his Be It Forward framework. Together, they explore how vision fuels resilience, why believing in yourself is non-negotiable, and how small decisions create lasting impact. Whether you’re leading, rebuilding, or just trying to get out of your own way, this conversation will challenge and energize you.
Key Takeaways
- The Book That Changed Everything: How The Power of the Subconscious Mind shifted Algie’s self-image and set him on a new path.
- Resilience as Vision: Why faith and the ability to “see the unseen” are the foundation for bouncing back.
- Be It Forward Framework: Algie’s powerful blueprint for believing, empowering, aspiring, and transforming.
- From Seed to Tree: A vivid metaphor for leadership, growth, and giving back.
- The Laws of Attraction in Action: How Algie and Coach Mo reconnected after decades, proving the energy you put out always comes back.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to the let's Think About it podcast, where we
embark on a journey ofthoughtfulness and personal
growth.
I'm your host, Coach Mo, andI'm here to guide you through
thought-provoking discussionsthat will inspire you to unlock
your full potential.
In each episode, we'll explorea wide range of topics, from
self-discovery and mindfulnessto goal-setting and achieving
(00:33):
success.
Together, we'll challengeconventional thinking and dive
deep into the realms ofpossibility.
Whether you're looking to findclarity in your personal or
professional life, or seekingstrategies to overcome obstacles
, this podcast is your go-tosource for insightful
conversations and practicaladvice.
So find a comfortable spot,chill and let's embark on this
(00:57):
journey of self-improvementtogether.
Remember, the power oftransformation lies within you,
and together we'll uncover thetools and insights you need to
make it happen.
So let's dive in.
Welcome to another episode ofthe let's Think About it podcast
(01:20):
.
I'm your host, Coach Mo, andI'm here with another guest,
soon to be co-host, my man,Algie Mosley.
What's up, bro?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
What's up, mo, and thank you for this reunion, as I
would say.
30 years and still going strong.
So yeah, uc Davis.
We call them the Aggies, butsomewhere along that I think I
added a little L in there tothat Aggies and I think they're
algae.
But that's just my little side.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I like that.
I like that.
Yeah, bro, it's been a longtime coming, man Great, to cross
paths again, reconnect.
And here we are, man, here weare.
Where are you checking in from?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
first of all, I'm right here in Elk Grove,
California, in my house, talkingto you via Zoom.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Tell my audience who you are, what you do and the
type of value you bring.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Okay, hey, audience, my name's Algie Mosley.
I'm just this little kid bornin the backwoods of Mississippi.
We didn't have no running wateror electricity.
My mother was a single parentseven kids.
Throughout this process, godhas been good, right.
I remember walking into thechurch in the backwoods of
Mississippi and as we walkedinto this church and these old
(02:42):
blue-crusted Black women wouldwalk in with that pain and they
would just come by me and go ohLord, have mercy.
Pretty big.
Well, that's how I got mycharacter is those moments where
they just put that love insideof me and that came from the
backwoods of Mississippi andthat has been something that has
been with me all of my life.
Is the love for myself and thelove for humanity, right.
(03:05):
So I came through the backwoodsof Mississippi, but we ended up
in a scenario right, get out oftown before the sun go down,
right.
So we ended up moving to thisplace called Iowa and most folks
say are there any black folksthat live in Iowa?
Exactly, and I'm here to tellyou there's lots of Black folks
in Iowa.
(03:25):
This is one of the quietly keptsecrets, but we had a really
tight community and I got anopportunity to work for this
organization called IowaMethodist Medical Center, where
I worked there nine years beforeworking in the parking lot one
day and there was this brotherthat walked by and I was just
(03:46):
sitting there watching theparking lot, right.
He was a hoodlum, right, he hadbeen in and out of all this
gang stuff and he came up to meand he said hey, brother, hey,
what you doing?
I said I'm watching the parkinglot, right.
And he just looked at me and helaughed and he gave me a book.
He said, brother, hey, readthis book For me.
I don't read books, right.
And I looked at the book andmoaned, like most of us.
(04:09):
I said, whoa, ain't no picturesin it, right?
So I took the book and I threwit back off in the cubbyhole and
just left it there.
And about a week later thebrother came back and he said
Brian, how'd that book come in?
I said what do you mean?
That book?
It ain't got no pictures in it.
And we both buzzed out laughingand then he really put a stain
on my brain that I'll neverforget.
(04:30):
He looked at me and he stoppedlaughing and he says a man who
don't read is no better than aman who don't know how to read.
I picked up that book and, eventhough it didn't have pictures
for the first time, I read itfrom cover to back.
I'll get you that in a minute.
(04:51):
The name of the book was calledthe Power of the Subconscious
Mind by Dr Joseph Murphy.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Taught me how to reprogram my thinking.
I always thought I was lessthan instead of greater than in
the environments around me.
It said I was the dumb guy inclass, so I didn't really study
too much, I was just concernedabout food, water and shelter.
Self-advocation was notsomething for me until I read
(05:20):
that book.
I went into my boss's officeafter nine years and I said hey,
I'm moving, here's my two weeknotice.
And he said to me where are yougoing?
And I said I think I'm going togo to California.
And he said what are you goingto do in California?
And I said I think I'm going togo to college.
And he said college, collegeisn't for you.
(05:43):
Maybe your brother, but not you.
And that hit me hard to thinkthat this man that I had given
nine years of my life to thoughtless than, not greater than.
But I thought and I had adifferent vision.
So I packed up Mo and got alittle U-Haul and I drove all
(06:03):
the way here to California.
And guess, when I came here onMay the 15th in 1989, just in
time for UC Davis Black FamilyDay and when I got here I was in
awe.
This is incredible, this whoa.
Look at all these Black folksdoing all these positive things
(06:25):
and having such a good time.
It was mesmerizing for me.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Why UC Davis?
At that moment you read thebook, why UC Davis out of all
the colleges in California?
What made Davis stick out?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Didn't resonate to me at first because, remember, my
mindset was not ready to thinkthat I could graduate from a
college.
But when I got here, I becameUC Davis.
It was just part of thatenvironment and I really at that
time didn't even think aboutattending this college.
I chose Davis because when Ihad got my AA degree and my
(07:08):
professor brought me over to UCDavis and to see this lady that
I had no idea about but later tofind out, her name was Maya
Angelou, and when she spoke, myspirit it just illuminated.
It was like for the first timein my life, I was actually alive
.
When I walked out on that campus, the stars were just glaring
(07:30):
and the energy that I feltcoming at me.
At that time I looked up in thesky and I said, God, is this
the college you want me to go to?
How am I going to compete withthese young college students?
Right?
Do I have the fortitude?
Do I have the makeup, thecharacter in which to overcome
the obstacles I'm going to facefor this college?
(07:50):
But I knew I could do it andthat was when I made that
decision at that time and lateron I was accepted to UC Davis.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
What do you do right now and what type of value do
you bring?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
do right now and what type of value do you bring?
I work with Sacramento Housing,but I'm also moving into a
whole different platform, andthat is to inspire others to go
beyond where they are.
So I am stepping out currentlyto be a life coach, something
I've been doing all my life abusiness coach, learning all the
things that I've learned inyears of navigating the plains
of corporate America and helpingkids learn how to be it forward
(08:28):
.
That's my cliche using my lifeexperiences and what I have
learned along the way to yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
So give me a little bit more understanding of why
life coaching was making you gothat route.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I'm at a stage in my life where I've been gifted and
I've been blessed in so manyways, right.
But I'm like that fruit treeright now in my stage of my life
, where I've been deeply rootedand now the fragrance of the
flowers are starting to bloomright.
And then now the flowers haveturned to fruit and now, being
that plum tree, I realized thatthe fruit is not for me to enjoy
(09:06):
.
The reality of my life is thatthe fruit I produce is for
others to enjoy, and that'swhere I'm at.
I'm at that stage of being thatplum tree sitting up on the
hill, just blossoming andcreating fruit for others to
enjoy.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
That's great to hear.
One of the things that I getinto on this show is helping
people get out of their own damnway, and part of that is
resilience.
Right, You've had aninteresting journey from
Mississippi to Iowa to here nowin California a duration span of
(09:44):
probably 40, 50 years.
Talk to us about resilience andhow that come up for you.
How do you demonstrate it andteach others?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
That's a good question, bob.
Resilience, to me, is thesubstance of character.
It's who you are as a person,that, no matter what comes your
way, you're going to alwaysshine.
And so, for me, my resiliencecome from having a vision
lifting your wings and flyingright.
So here it goes, in a short wayof expressing my resilience,
(10:16):
and I call it vision.
And it goes like this it's timeto make a decision.
Yet the future I have no vision.
It's just like what I've beentold, this confusion called the
crossroads, door number one ordoor number two.
Bewildered, I just don't knowwhat to do.
(10:38):
I need some help.
I need someone to say thefootsteps I take will be okay.
Yes, it's time to make adecision.
Yet the future I have no vision.
Troubling times, I must confess, for I feel like I'm stumbling
through the valley of death.
(10:59):
Now I know what I must do.
I'll get on my knees and callon you like an eagle flying high
in the sky, for it reallydoesn't matter door number one
or door number two, as long asmy travels are not without you.
Yes, it's time to make adecision.
(11:20):
Faith is my resilience.
All things are possible.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Love that.
What resonates for me listeningto that poem is what we're
talking about.
Right, without the vision beingable to see the unseen, which
you described as faith, it makesit impossible in my eyes to
have that resilience.
You got to know where you'regoing.
You got to know what yourpurpose is.
(11:47):
You got to see, be able to seethat visual picture of whatever
it is you're going after.
That's vision.
Without that, it becomes soeasy to quit on yourself all day
, every day every day.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
You're like the ship out in the middle of the ocean,
without a rudder.
You're going a lot of ways inmany different directions, but
getting nowhere because you haveno purpose.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yes, as you made your journey to where you are today,
teach us how do you create thatvision for yourself.
What are some simple thingsthat you do to keep that image
in your mind so that you stayresilient?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
First of all.
No, it's first an understanding, the foundation right.
So I give all praise to Godbecause those are the wings in
which I fly.
However, it's very simple forme.
It's about 10 differentconcepts that I've learned along
the way, and one of them isthat during this economic call,
this Marxism, we've been ledastray, right To think that
(12:55):
we're chasing this dollar billright, or, as you can see in the
cliche, the goose, the goldenegg right, and that a lot of
people find value in that eggand forgot who created that egg.
And the value is really in thegoose.
And so my whole concept ofkeeping it there is to help
people understand how to be itforward.
(13:20):
And be it forward is a differentconcept than pay it forward.
Part of being it forward, theacronym called be it forward B.
Believe in yourself.
E.
Empower your mind.
A person who doesn't read is nobetter than a person who
doesn't know how to read.
I inspire others.
(13:42):
Don't just set yourself on fire.
Set others on fire so that'tjust set yourself on fire.
Set others on fire so that thewhole world is on fire.
T.
Transform your future.
F.
Focus on purpose.
O.
Overcome obstacles.
R.
Respect your journey.
W.
Walk in your truth A aspire forgreatness.
(14:06):
R reach back to uplift and Ddrive the change forward.
And that's what I'm here for,mo is to drive this change
forward, because I believe welost the concept of where the
true value lies, and that's notin the golden egg but in the
goose lives and that's not inthe golden egg, but in the goose
(14:29):
.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I love that it's.
Be it forward and how it breaksdown.
Do you teach that?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yes, I teach it in about 10 different chapters each
session.
Believe in yourself that's thefirst and the foundational
aspect of this whole program isthat you learn to believe in who
you are.
Each and every one of us thatcome to this planet, as we look
at our fingerprint, it istotally different from anybody
else, but once you discover whoyou are and you can believe in
(14:57):
who you are, then at that pointin time, I believe you can go
out and create what I callimpact, and impact is imagine
many people actually caringtogether Make that collective
impact, and that's what I'mlooking to inspire others to do
(15:17):
the same, and when we do so, oneteaches the other and the
others teaches and it justbecome a great big explosion.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
That's powerful brother.
How do we get our hands on thatinformation that you just
shared?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Well, it's very simple.
Stay tuned.
We're going to do thesepodcasts also, creating
variations of sessions.
I'm going out to the youth andputting this program together so
that each one can teach one.
And that's what we learned atDavis in reference to getting
our college was not just gettingour education, but how do we
(15:54):
get an education that's going tohelp society as a whole.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
That's great man.
Talk to us about what's nextfor Algae.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Well, what's next for me, Mo, is very simple.
I've rested a point in time,like I said, I've had the
opportunity to hang out withgreatness, and so now I have
eyes to see greatness as a seedright.
And sometimes, when you seethings as a seed, it's very
difficult for that seed to seeitself.
But that seed someday will be aapple and that seed someday
(16:27):
will be a apple and that seedsomeday will be a tree.
So my job at this stage of thegame is to create belief so that
seed might see itself in theearly stages and can empower
itself and be on purpose onachieving what it has been set
to do.
I tell people, mo, very simple,because you met me, you should
(16:47):
be a better you.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
That's what I'm talking about.
That's why this is here,because I'm trying to be a
better me.
You know what I mean, and ifI'm around you, and that's going
to make me a better me, man,this is going to be a regular
episode conversations that youand I are going to have because
I am trying to make a better me.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
And in making you a better you, it just starts to
grow and when it really startsto flow, mo and the world starts
gravitating along this way tounderstand that we were created
to empower each other, and ithas a selfish endeavor and me,
myself and I in the selfie worldright, because when I grew up
(17:29):
we used to do what we called thebump right, and we would bump
and we would laugh and we wouldyeah, and all that.
And the older I get, the olderI get, the more I realize this
stuff you can't purchase onAmazon.
And when we focus on the realcreation of essence in life,
(17:50):
then people will grow beyondtheir wildest dream.
Can you imagine if you'resmiling on a daily basis,
purposefully?
What does that do to your body?
What does that do for yourhealth.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Oh man, it keeps me young, it gives me energy, it
keeps me vibrant, it keeps mehappy, it keeps me optimistic,
it brings in so much positivity.
It's intentional, it's alwaysintentional, right, and that's
what we have control over is ourattitudes and our intentions.
And so if I wake up in themorning every single day saying
(18:30):
to myself it's a wonderful day,it's a prosperous day, I'm going
to create amazing things today,I feel good about myself.
And then I start my day withexercise, walks, prayer,
meditation.
Man, that just carries myenergy for the whole day, and
(18:50):
that's what I do every singleday.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
And what happens when you are magnified like that?
And you're walking around right.
What happens to the people youengage with?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I attract people like you Because that's exactly what
happened Real talk.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
That is so true, mo.
I was sailing, I was tellingmyself, as I was driving
downtown one day, about thispodcasting, when it kept coming
to me podcasting but I don't dopodcasts, that's the young
generation.
And then, all of a sudden itwas like I've seen this shadow.
I'm looking at this shadow andI'm like this man walking down
the street.
I was like, wait a minute, I'mlooking at this shadow and I'm
like this man walking down thestreet.
(19:28):
I was like, wait a minute, I'veseen this walk before.
I've seen that walk.
And then I looked and I seenthese hairs, but they were a
little gray.
Right, they were gray, and so Iand they had a hat on, so I
couldn't really see, but it waslike the energy that this person
was walking in caught myattention.
That can't be.
There's no way that I'm havinga thought process about you and
(19:53):
you right before me, brother.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
And it had probably been about 10 years yes, eight,
10 years since we had spoken,talked to each other, because we
had tried to connect years agoand we had some mishaps and that
just didn't come through.
And then all of a sudden, eight, 10 years later, boom, here we
(20:16):
are.
And then, almost immediatelyafter that conversation on the
street, we immediately connected.
We've been meeting on a weeklybasis for lunch whether it's
conversation or actually havinglunch one time a week because
there's a synergy that we havehere and this is so real and
(20:36):
about the laws of attraction andthe energy that you put out and
the thought vibrations that youput out, because you were
saying you want to get into thispodcast thing.
Who knew that your boy isactually doing podcasting?
And I was like, man, I can usea co-host, I can use somebody
(20:56):
that just have, just shoot thegift with each week.
And magic has happened sincethat day.
And that was about a month anda half ago, two months ago.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, yeah, and it goes right along with it.
Right, like you say, let'sthink about it.
Right, I thought about it, Ididn't know.
Well, I did in a sense, I'maware of as a man thinking so is
he right?
But to see all of it magnifyand present itself the way it is
, even on this podcast, asyou're interviewing me today,
(21:37):
it's just a huge blessing as Ilook in your background and
let's think about it.
And as I told you about visionand that open window, I wish
everybody can discover thatfreedom.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
We're going to continue the journey to help
people to think about it and putthat awareness in their soul
and in their spirit so that theycan move forward and get out of
their own way.
I just want to say I appreciateyou, brother, I really do.
We go way back as youngsters onthe basketball court playing
all these recreation sports atUC Davis, more importantly,
(22:07):
succeeding in getting ourdegrees and persevering through
the various hardships that wehad to experience going through
college and trying to navigatethat on our own as young Black
men.
We survived, we becamesuccessful and here we are now
trying to give back.
We are giving back and doing itthe right way, and we have a
(22:29):
platform here where we cancontinue to share our wisdom and
help people think about it.
Any final thoughts that youwould like to share before we
sign off today?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, my final thoughts are very simple.
When you're talking about,let's think about it right.
When you think about and moveyourself beyond your thoughts,
right, let's be about it, right.
When you think about and moveyourself beyond your thoughts,
right, let's be about it, notjust think.
Let's not just pontificate.
Change happens when we're ableto, but a lot of what we're
(23:01):
talking about is your ability tomake those changes within self,
right, but being able to try toformat for others, to see what
that impact actually does forchanging yourself, in order to
not just think about it, but tobe about it.
To be about it.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I love that.
I love that.
Thank you, brother.
I appreciate you.
I love that.
I love that.
Thank you, brother.
I appreciate you.
It's great to know you and Ilook forward to having more of
these conversations.
Be about it.
Thank you for joining me inthis episode of let's Think
About it.
Your time and attention aregreatly appreciated.
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(23:47):
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(24:13):
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Together.
We're making incredible stridestoward a better and more
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So thank you, and I'll see youin our next episode.
Welcome to the let's Think About it podcast, where we
embark on a journey ofthoughtfulness and personal
growth.
I'm your host, Coach Mo, andI'm here to guide you through
thought-provoking discussionsthat will inspire you to unlock
your full potential.
In each episode, we'll explorea wide range of topics, from
self-discovery and mindfulnessto goal-setting and achieving
(00:33):
success.
Together, we'll challengeconventional thinking and dive
deep into the realms ofpossibility.
Whether you're looking to findclarity in your personal or
professional life, or seekingstrategies to overcome obstacles
, this podcast is your go-tosource for insightful
conversations and practicaladvice.
So find a comfortable spot,chill and let's embark on this
(00:57):
journey of self-improvementtogether.
Remember, the power oftransformation lies within you,
and together we'll uncover thetools and insights you need to
make it happen.
So let's dive in.
Welcome to another episode ofthe let's Think About it podcast
(01:20):
.
I'm your host, Coach Mo, andI'm here with another guest,
soon to be co-host, my man,Algie Mosley.
What's up, bro?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
What's up, mo, and thank you for this reunion, as I
would say.
30 years and still going strong.
So yeah, uc Davis.
We call them the Aggies, butsomewhere along that I think I
added a little L in there tothat Aggies and I think they're
algae.
But that's just my little side.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I like that.
I like that.
Yeah, bro, it's been a longtime coming, man Great, to cross
paths again, reconnect.
And here we are, man, here weare.
Where are you checking in from?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
first of all, I'm right here in Elk Grove,
California, in my house, talkingto you via Zoom.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Tell my audience who you are, what you do and the
type of value you bring.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Okay, hey, audience, my name's Algie Mosley.
I'm just this little kid bornin the backwoods of Mississippi.
We didn't have no running wateror electricity.
My mother was a single parentseven kids.
Throughout this process, godhas been good, right.
I remember walking into thechurch in the backwoods of
Mississippi and as we walkedinto this church and these old
(02:42):
blue-crusted Black women wouldwalk in with that pain and they
would just come by me and go ohLord, have mercy.
Pretty big.
Well, that's how I got mycharacter is those moments where
they just put that love insideof me and that came from the
backwoods of Mississippi andthat has been something that has
been with me all of my life.
Is the love for myself and thelove for humanity, right.
(03:05):
So I came through the backwoodsof Mississippi, but we ended up
in a scenario right, get out oftown before the sun go down,
right.
So we ended up moving to thisplace called Iowa and most folks
say are there any black folksthat live in Iowa?
Exactly, and I'm here to tellyou there's lots of Black folks
in Iowa.
(03:25):
This is one of the quietly keptsecrets, but we had a really
tight community and I got anopportunity to work for this
organization called IowaMethodist Medical Center, where
I worked there nine years beforeworking in the parking lot one
day and there was this brotherthat walked by and I was just
(03:46):
sitting there watching theparking lot, right.
He was a hoodlum, right, he hadbeen in and out of all this
gang stuff and he came up to meand he said hey, brother, hey,
what you doing?
I said I'm watching the parkinglot, right.
And he just looked at me and helaughed and he gave me a book.
He said, brother, hey, readthis book For me.
I don't read books, right.
And I looked at the book andmoaned, like most of us.
(04:09):
I said, whoa, ain't no picturesin it, right?
So I took the book and I threwit back off in the cubbyhole and
just left it there.
And about a week later thebrother came back and he said
Brian, how'd that book come in?
I said what do you mean?
That book?
It ain't got no pictures in it.
And we both buzzed out laughingand then he really put a stain
on my brain that I'll neverforget.
(04:30):
He looked at me and he stoppedlaughing and he says a man who
don't read is no better than aman who don't know how to read.
I picked up that book and, eventhough it didn't have pictures
for the first time, I read itfrom cover to back.
I'll get you that in a minute.
(04:51):
The name of the book was calledthe Power of the Subconscious
Mind by Dr Joseph Murphy.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Taught me how to reprogram my thinking.
I always thought I was lessthan instead of greater than in
the environments around me.
It said I was the dumb guy inclass, so I didn't really study
too much, I was just concernedabout food, water and shelter.
Self-advocation was notsomething for me until I read
(05:20):
that book.
I went into my boss's officeafter nine years and I said hey,
I'm moving, here's my two weeknotice.
And he said to me where are yougoing?
And I said I think I'm going togo to California.
And he said what are you goingto do in California?
And I said I think I'm going togo to college.
And he said college, collegeisn't for you.
(05:43):
Maybe your brother, but not you.
And that hit me hard to thinkthat this man that I had given
nine years of my life to thoughtless than, not greater than.
But I thought and I had adifferent vision.
So I packed up Mo and got alittle U-Haul and I drove all
(06:03):
the way here to California.
And guess, when I came here onMay the 15th in 1989, just in
time for UC Davis Black FamilyDay and when I got here I was in
awe.
This is incredible, this whoa.
Look at all these Black folksdoing all these positive things
(06:25):
and having such a good time.
It was mesmerizing for me.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Why UC Davis?
At that moment you read thebook, why UC Davis out of all
the colleges in California?
What made Davis stick out?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Didn't resonate to me at first because, remember, my
mindset was not ready to thinkthat I could graduate from a
college.
But when I got here, I becameUC Davis.
It was just part of thatenvironment and I really at that
time didn't even think aboutattending this college.
I chose Davis because when Ihad got my AA degree and my
(07:08):
professor brought me over to UCDavis and to see this lady that
I had no idea about but later tofind out, her name was Maya
Angelou, and when she spoke, myspirit it just illuminated.
It was like for the first timein my life, I was actually alive
.
When I walked out on that campus, the stars were just glaring
(07:30):
and the energy that I feltcoming at me.
At that time I looked up in thesky and I said, God, is this
the college you want me to go to?
How am I going to compete withthese young college students?
Right?
Do I have the fortitude?
Do I have the makeup, thecharacter in which to overcome
the obstacles I'm going to facefor this college?
(07:50):
But I knew I could do it andthat was when I made that
decision at that time and lateron I was accepted to UC Davis.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
What do you do right now and what type of value do
you bring?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
do right now and what type of value do you bring?
I work with Sacramento Housing,but I'm also moving into a
whole different platform, andthat is to inspire others to go
beyond where they are.
So I am stepping out currentlyto be a life coach, something
I've been doing all my life abusiness coach, learning all the
things that I've learned inyears of navigating the plains
of corporate America and helpingkids learn how to be it forward
(08:28):
.
That's my cliche using my lifeexperiences and what I have
learned along the way to yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
So give me a little bit more understanding of why
life coaching was making you gothat route.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I'm at a stage in my life where I've been gifted and
I've been blessed in so manyways, right.
But I'm like that fruit treeright now in my stage of my life
, where I've been deeply rootedand now the fragrance of the
flowers are starting to bloomright.
And then now the flowers haveturned to fruit and now, being
that plum tree, I realized thatthe fruit is not for me to enjoy
(09:06):
.
The reality of my life is thatthe fruit I produce is for
others to enjoy, and that'swhere I'm at.
I'm at that stage of being thatplum tree sitting up on the
hill, just blossoming andcreating fruit for others to
enjoy.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
That's great to hear.
One of the things that I getinto on this show is helping
people get out of their own damnway, and part of that is
resilience.
Right, You've had aninteresting journey from
Mississippi to Iowa to here nowin California a duration span of
(09:44):
probably 40, 50 years.
Talk to us about resilience andhow that come up for you.
How do you demonstrate it andteach others?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
That's a good question, bob.
Resilience, to me, is thesubstance of character.
It's who you are as a person,that, no matter what comes your
way, you're going to alwaysshine.
And so, for me, my resiliencecome from having a vision
lifting your wings and flyingright.
So here it goes, in a short wayof expressing my resilience,
(10:16):
and I call it vision.
And it goes like this it's timeto make a decision.
Yet the future I have no vision.
It's just like what I've beentold, this confusion called the
crossroads, door number one ordoor number two.
Bewildered, I just don't knowwhat to do.
(10:38):
I need some help.
I need someone to say thefootsteps I take will be okay.
Yes, it's time to make adecision.
Yet the future I have no vision.
Troubling times, I must confess, for I feel like I'm stumbling
through the valley of death.
(10:59):
Now I know what I must do.
I'll get on my knees and callon you like an eagle flying high
in the sky, for it reallydoesn't matter door number one
or door number two, as long asmy travels are not without you.
Yes, it's time to make adecision.
(11:20):
Faith is my resilience.
All things are possible.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Love that.
What resonates for me listeningto that poem is what we're
talking about.
Right, without the vision beingable to see the unseen, which
you described as faith, it makesit impossible in my eyes to
have that resilience.
You got to know where you'regoing.
You got to know what yourpurpose is.
(11:47):
You got to see, be able to seethat visual picture of whatever
it is you're going after.
That's vision.
Without that, it becomes soeasy to quit on yourself all day
, every day every day.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
You're like the ship out in the middle of the ocean,
without a rudder.
You're going a lot of ways inmany different directions, but
getting nowhere because you haveno purpose.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yes, as you made your journey to where you are today,
teach us how do you create thatvision for yourself.
What are some simple thingsthat you do to keep that image
in your mind so that you stayresilient?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
First of all.
No, it's first an understanding, the foundation right.
So I give all praise to Godbecause those are the wings in
which I fly.
However, it's very simple forme.
It's about 10 differentconcepts that I've learned along
the way, and one of them isthat during this economic call,
this Marxism, we've been ledastray, right To think that
(12:55):
we're chasing this dollar billright, or, as you can see in the
cliche, the goose, the goldenegg right, and that a lot of
people find value in that eggand forgot who created that egg.
And the value is really in thegoose.
And so my whole concept ofkeeping it there is to help
people understand how to be itforward.
(13:20):
And be it forward is a differentconcept than pay it forward.
Part of being it forward, theacronym called be it forward B.
Believe in yourself.
E.
Empower your mind.
A person who doesn't read is nobetter than a person who
doesn't know how to read.
I inspire others.
(13:42):
Don't just set yourself on fire.
Set others on fire so that'tjust set yourself on fire.
Set others on fire so that thewhole world is on fire.
T.
Transform your future.
F.
Focus on purpose.
O.
Overcome obstacles.
R.
Respect your journey.
W.
Walk in your truth A aspire forgreatness.
(14:06):
R reach back to uplift and Ddrive the change forward.
And that's what I'm here for,mo is to drive this change
forward, because I believe welost the concept of where the
true value lies, and that's notin the golden egg but in the
goose lives and that's not inthe golden egg, but in the goose
(14:29):
.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I love that it's.
Be it forward and how it breaksdown.
Do you teach that?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yes, I teach it in about 10 different chapters each
session.
Believe in yourself that's thefirst and the foundational
aspect of this whole program isthat you learn to believe in who
you are.
Each and every one of us thatcome to this planet, as we look
at our fingerprint, it istotally different from anybody
else, but once you discover whoyou are and you can believe in
(14:57):
who you are, then at that pointin time, I believe you can go
out and create what I callimpact, and impact is imagine
many people actually caringtogether Make that collective
impact, and that's what I'mlooking to inspire others to do
(15:17):
the same, and when we do so, oneteaches the other and the
others teaches and it justbecome a great big explosion.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
That's powerful brother.
How do we get our hands on thatinformation that you just
shared?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Well, it's very simple.
Stay tuned.
We're going to do thesepodcasts also, creating
variations of sessions.
I'm going out to the youth andputting this program together so
that each one can teach one.
And that's what we learned atDavis in reference to getting
our college was not just gettingour education, but how do we
(15:54):
get an education that's going tohelp society as a whole.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
That's great man.
Talk to us about what's nextfor Algae.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Well, what's next for me, Mo, is very simple.
I've rested a point in time,like I said, I've had the
opportunity to hang out withgreatness, and so now I have
eyes to see greatness as a seedright.
And sometimes, when you seethings as a seed, it's very
difficult for that seed to seeitself.
But that seed someday will be aapple and that seed someday
(16:27):
will be a apple and that seedsomeday will be a tree.
So my job at this stage of thegame is to create belief so that
seed might see itself in theearly stages and can empower
itself and be on purpose onachieving what it has been set
to do.
I tell people, mo, very simple,because you met me, you should
(16:47):
be a better you.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
That's what I'm talking about.
That's why this is here,because I'm trying to be a
better me.
You know what I mean, and ifI'm around you, and that's going
to make me a better me, man,this is going to be a regular
episode conversations that youand I are going to have because
I am trying to make a better me.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
And in making you a better you, it just starts to
grow and when it really startsto flow, mo and the world starts
gravitating along this way tounderstand that we were created
to empower each other, and ithas a selfish endeavor and me,
myself and I in the selfie worldright, because when I grew up
(17:29):
we used to do what we called thebump right, and we would bump
and we would laugh and we wouldyeah, and all that.
And the older I get, the olderI get, the more I realize this
stuff you can't purchase onAmazon.
And when we focus on the realcreation of essence in life,
(17:50):
then people will grow beyondtheir wildest dream.
Can you imagine if you'resmiling on a daily basis,
purposefully?
What does that do to your body?
What does that do for yourhealth.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Oh man, it keeps me young, it gives me energy, it
keeps me vibrant, it keeps mehappy, it keeps me optimistic,
it brings in so much positivity.
It's intentional, it's alwaysintentional, right, and that's
what we have control over is ourattitudes and our intentions.
And so if I wake up in themorning every single day saying
(18:30):
to myself it's a wonderful day,it's a prosperous day, I'm going
to create amazing things today,I feel good about myself.
And then I start my day withexercise, walks, prayer,
meditation.
Man, that just carries myenergy for the whole day, and
(18:50):
that's what I do every singleday.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
And what happens when you are magnified like that?
And you're walking around right.
What happens to the people youengage with?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I attract people like you Because that's exactly what
happened Real talk.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
That is so true, mo.
I was sailing, I was tellingmyself, as I was driving
downtown one day, about thispodcasting, when it kept coming
to me podcasting but I don't dopodcasts, that's the young
generation.
And then, all of a sudden itwas like I've seen this shadow.
I'm looking at this shadow andI'm like this man walking down
the street.
I was like, wait a minute, I'mlooking at this shadow and I'm
like this man walking down thestreet.
(19:28):
I was like, wait a minute, I'veseen this walk before.
I've seen that walk.
And then I looked and I seenthese hairs, but they were a
little gray.
Right, they were gray, and so Iand they had a hat on, so I
couldn't really see, but it waslike the energy that this person
was walking in caught myattention.
That can't be.
There's no way that I'm havinga thought process about you and
(19:53):
you right before me, brother.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
And it had probably been about 10 years yes, eight,
10 years since we had spoken,talked to each other, because we
had tried to connect years agoand we had some mishaps and that
just didn't come through.
And then all of a sudden, eight, 10 years later, boom, here we
(20:16):
are.
And then, almost immediatelyafter that conversation on the
street, we immediately connected.
We've been meeting on a weeklybasis for lunch whether it's
conversation or actually havinglunch one time a week because
there's a synergy that we havehere and this is so real and
(20:36):
about the laws of attraction andthe energy that you put out and
the thought vibrations that youput out, because you were
saying you want to get into thispodcast thing.
Who knew that your boy isactually doing podcasting?
And I was like, man, I can usea co-host, I can use somebody
(20:56):
that just have, just shoot thegift with each week.
And magic has happened sincethat day.
And that was about a month anda half ago, two months ago.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, yeah, and it goes right along with it.
Right, like you say, let'sthink about it.
Right, I thought about it, Ididn't know.
Well, I did in a sense, I'maware of as a man thinking so is
he right?
But to see all of it magnifyand present itself the way it is
, even on this podcast, asyou're interviewing me today,
(21:37):
it's just a huge blessing as Ilook in your background and
let's think about it.
And as I told you about visionand that open window, I wish
everybody can discover thatfreedom.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
We're going to continue the journey to help
people to think about it and putthat awareness in their soul
and in their spirit so that theycan move forward and get out of
their own way.
I just want to say I appreciateyou, brother, I really do.
We go way back as youngsters onthe basketball court playing
all these recreation sports atUC Davis, more importantly,
(22:07):
succeeding in getting ourdegrees and persevering through
the various hardships that wehad to experience going through
college and trying to navigatethat on our own as young Black
men.
We survived, we becamesuccessful and here we are now
trying to give back.
We are giving back and doing itthe right way, and we have a
(22:29):
platform here where we cancontinue to share our wisdom and
help people think about it.
Any final thoughts that youwould like to share before we
sign off today?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, my final thoughts are very simple.
When you're talking about,let's think about it right.
When you think about and moveyourself beyond your thoughts,
right, let's be about it, right.
When you think about and moveyourself beyond your thoughts,
right, let's be about it, notjust think.
Let's not just pontificate.
Change happens when we're ableto, but a lot of what we're
(23:01):
talking about is your ability tomake those changes within self,
right, but being able to try toformat for others, to see what
that impact actually does forchanging yourself, in order to
not just think about it, but tobe about it.
To be about it.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I love that.
I love that.
Thank you, brother.
I appreciate you.
I love that.
I love that.
Thank you, brother.
I appreciate you.
It's great to know you and Ilook forward to having more of
these conversations.
Be about it.
Thank you for joining me inthis episode of let's Think
About it.
Your time and attention aregreatly appreciated.
If you found value in today'sdiscussion, I encourage you to
(23:47):
subscribe on your favoritepodcast platform.
Remember, the journey ofself-improvement is ongoing and
I'm here to support you everystep of the way.
Connect with me on social mediafor updates and insights.
You can find me on Instagramand Facebook at Coach Mo
Coaching, or LinkedIn at MauriceMabry, at Coach Mo Coaching, or
(24:13):
LinkedIn at Maurice Mabry, orvisit my website at
mauricemabrycom for exclusivecontent.
Until next time, keepreflecting, keep growing and,
most importantly, keep believingin yourself.
Remember, the most effectiveway to do it is to do it
Together.
We're making incredible stridestoward a better and more
empowered you.
So thank you, and I'll see youin our next episode.
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