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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to the let's
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embark on a journey ofthoughtfulness and personal
growth.
I'm your host, Coach Mo, andI'm here to guide you through
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So let's dive in.
Welcome to another episode ofthe let's Think About it podcast
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I'm your host, Coach Mo, andI'm here with another amazing
guest.
Her name is Maui Ademas.
Maui, my sister.
What's happening, girl?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
What is good, life is
great, how you doing, I'm doing
good, I'm doing really good.
Happy to be here, happy toshare some space with you.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Thank you.
Thank you.
One of the first things that Ido with my guests when they come
on is I ask them where they'rechecking in from around the
country or around the world.
So where are you calling infrom?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I'm calling from
Sacramento, california,
sacramento.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
What's up In the
heavens City of trees.
Yes, yes, born and raised.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
No, actually I was
born in Southern California,
culver City, and then we movedup here I like to say in my
wonder years, in sixth grade,and I've been here ever since.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
That's awesome.
That's awesome.
So who are you, what you do,and we're looking to know what
type of knowledge you're goingto share today.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Well, my name is
Malia Demas and I am a
transformational life coach.
I have been a parent for a longtime of an autistic kiddo and a
lot of the information that Ihave and the business that I've
built is life coaching otherautistic parents and helping
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them understand they were stilla parent before their child and
their diagnosis and they'restill a person afterwards, and
I've just been enjoying thejourney and helping people get
to know who they are andremember their dreams, and so
that's some of the stuff thatI'm going to share with you
today and I'm really excitedabout it.
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That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Let's go back a
little bit.
Take me through your journeythat you know got you to this
point of being a life coach.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well, it's a very
interesting story.
My son I had at 20 years oldand he was a preemie, born at 26
weeks, a whole trimester early,and he came so early he was
delivered in my mother's bed andso we knew that we were going
to have life challenges for him.
They gave us a diagnosis, that,and a prognosis that he wasn't
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going to walk, talk, evencommunicate with us at all, and
so my journey started there withmy own child and making sure
that he has all the servicesthat he needs and therapies and
attention.
And the journey taught me a lot.
And what I noticed when we wereout in public we had other
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families that would come up tous and ask us questions and I
would happily, you know, sharewhat I knew and understood about
autism at that time.
He was born in 1990.
So a lot of the services thatwere provided for our children
were limited, and even more sofor us as parents to have
resources.
And so it all started with Che.
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It all absolutely started withChe.
I always wanted to be a teacherand one of the things that I
learned and understood was thatthat's what my purpose is, and
so I started life coaching andhelping other parents to find
resources and even for advocacy,because we had a hard journey
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with the school districts, hismedical providers they would
quickly shoo us off and notanswer questions because they
didn't know a lot of theinformation.
And so I had to read a lot,learn a lot, talk to a lot of
other parents and professionalsteachers mostly and kind of
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learned how to navigate mychild's autism, and now I have
the pleasure and the honor ofhelping other families get to
where they need to be.
Now, mind you, my journeystarted in music education.
I actually went to Sac Statehere on a music scholarship and
then I had my son my sophomoreyear and then that, you know,
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put a pin.
I'm not going to say I stoppedsinging, but I put a pin in it
and so he became my firstpriority and that changed, you
know, my whole trajectory.
In all honesty, it was a toughjourney, but one that I feel
blessed to have experiencedbecause it shaped me as a person
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and as a provider or coach toothers.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
You had mentioned
that you're a life transitional
coach, right.
What does that mean, and whoare you helping with the
transition?
Who was that audience?
And give us a little bit moreinsights about that?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
That's a great
question.
So I am a transformationalcoach.
That means that I help peoplealign with their hopes and
dreams and help them achievethose things.
So, for example, I help otherparents like myself.
For me I'll use myself as anexample I reunited with music,
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right, I started singing againand making sure that I made time
for that, initially when I hadmy son.
It put me into a tailspin, Iwould say, and I thought that
was the end of my dream, likethere was nothing else besides
my son anymore, because hedepended on me for everything,
everything and anything.
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And so I lost touch and movedaway and turned into this
worried parent that stoppedlaughing, stopped singing,
stopped enjoying life.
And the parents that I help, Ibring them back to where they
were before.
They had their children.
Right, we all had hopes anddreams.
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My goal is to transform themand get them on that path to
their dreams.
Right, we have resources asparents, especially for our
special needs guys.
A lot of folks will use, not onpurpose, the diagnosis to not
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have joy, not to be happy, notto have friends, not to continue
to be in society, because a lotof the things that we deal with
as parents especially of uswith non-verbal autistic
children.
They make more noises andsounds and sound like monsters
and scare people, and so westart to hide, we start to you
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know, to think there's nothingmore than this.
This is my life now, but whenin reality we are still entitled
to be happy and to not allowthat diagnosis to stop us from
doing what we are here on thisearth to do, a lot of times we
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separate ourselves from ourdreams.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
That's powerful, that
you've been able to find your
purpose and being that coach,helping other people find their
purpose and make their shift.
I'm here correctly, right?
That's what you do, rightcorrect.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
That's exactly right
okay.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
So what's?
What's that process look likewhen you try to help somebody
find their purpose and you saidyou work with parents, with
trying to reunite what thatdream was before they started
having kids.
But what is that process tohelp them do that?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Well, I take them
through this exercise where we
break down our life into fourcategories.
The first one is love andrelationships, the next one is
vocation, time and money,freedom, as well as health and
well-being.
And so what we do is we look ateach of those categories in
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their lives and we have themlist, what they think is holding
them back Right, and then onthe other side we say, well,
what is the dream, what do you,what is your goal, where do you
want to be Right?
So, for example, with health,some folks want to get back into
exercising, right, because nowthey have health problems
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because of the stress of lifeperiod, point blank.
Or they're looking for thatlove in their life, but since
they had their child and theyfeel like no one's going to
understand, no one's going towant to be in a relationship
with this, this is already adeath sentence, for myself at
least, the death of my dreams,for myself and my child.
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And then for vocation, you knowwe'll go through and you know
they'll say, oh, I want to makeyou know, a hundred thousand
dollars a year.
And then we kind of just pickout, you know a section where
they feel the least satisfied ordistant, you know, and feel
like they want more for that,and then we focus on those
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things and we make a plan andthen we set up our step.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
That's awesome and
you know, as a coach like
yourself, you know people showup with their own stories of
themselves and theircircumstance.
Right, and I'm thinking whenyou working with women who have
kids and trying to help them getback to the dreams that they
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had before kids they had beforekids I'm visualizing the story
that we often tell ourselvesthat I can't do that, I can't be
this, or even, in my case,right, I can't get that football
physique that I used to havewhen I play right.
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And then you just kind ofbelieve that and then you just
do not try and you kind of losehope and you go through the
motions day in and day out andnothing ever changes, right?
I label that as the innercritic being present,
consistently present, absolutely.
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You know what I mean,absolutely.
You know what I mean.
So, when we're talking aboutthe inner critic and you being a
transformational coach, how doyou help them silence that inner
critic so that that innercritic can get out of their way
and they can step over and startgoing after that dream?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
that's a great
question and it's absolutely One
of the things that I help in isidentifying those paradigms and
understanding where those arecoming from.
Because a lot of times you know, you hear something your mother
said a couple times.
You know basketball might notbe for you, or you know that
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instrument Don't know if that'sfor you, right and then you kind
of carry that with you, eventhough that gave you joy and it
gave you a little light inside,and you're like, oh well, if mom
didn't like it, you knowsomeone else.
I can't bring this out andabout, you know.
And so I like to address theparadigms and then, once we've
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addressed them, we look to seewhere they came from.
And then we realize a lot oftimes it's just insecurity and
fear.
And one of the exercises that Ido is called befriending your
fear, recognizing it, taking itspower away, calling it out by
its name and then putting it onthe shelf.
Because now you've identifiedit, because a lot of times we're
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scared of things and we buildourselves up, the anxiety goes
up, you're sweating, you'reshaking, you know, and you're
thinking, oh, I absolutely can'tdo this.
And then you do it and you'relike what the heck was I afraid
of?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
exactly yes, and it's
just that monster under the bed
that has no power and here'sthe other thing I have my inner
critic, you have your innercritic, your parents have their
inner critic.
Everyone has an inner critic,right?
Absolutely.
So I'm going a little deep.
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So I'm thinking about theclients you've worked with,
right, and, like you said, youhave parents.
You're trying to help themtransform and get back to the
way that they used to be right.
Take it from this viewpointthere's people that influence
their fears onto them, that'spreventing them from getting
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back to their dreams, becausethe people that's in their ear
or in their circle of influencehave certain fears that they
went through and because oftheir fears, they're projecting
it onto the next person and thenthat person is terrified to not
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even try yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
It's kind of like
when you have a parent like for
okay, I'm gonna use myself anexample I don't like avocados.
I, I absolutely don't like them.
But I, as a, made sure that mychild tried the avocados several
different ways before he wasable to say he didn't like it.
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I say that because a lot oftimes, like you said, our
dislikes, our fears, our pastexperiences a lot of times we do
put them on to other people.
Right, we try to stop them orcriticize them from doing that
because you don't have thevision that that person has.
Right, they have this goal,they have this purpose, you know
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, for doing whatever it is goingto college.
We have parents that havetaught children that are going
to college because they don'twant their children to move out
right, and so, again, that'swhere I help folks identify that
it's their fear versus someoneelse's fear.
So now we've broken it down intohalf.
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A lot of times it's 50-50, oursand theirs and then ours and
theirs, and then we kind of lookat not kind of.
We look at and see why maybethat fear, why maybe that
motivation to keep someone sosafe or keep them so, so small,
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because they don't want them toget hurt or disappointed.
You know, because sometimes youjust have to take the chance
and again the fear what you'refearing isn't always the case,
like we build it up so much inour minds and we have to stop
and listen to the small, stillsilent voice or soft voice in
our heads and in our spirit andgo.
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Okay, I can do that.
You know that's going to be thequiet voice.
The voice that's screaming outloud is usually the thing that
fear, that anxiety, somebodyelse's ideas or paradigms that
are rearing their ugly hats.
And so we, we practice this forabout six to 12 weeks,
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depending on the program thatthey sign up on, because it's so
important to know why we dowhat we do and notice what we're
noticing and why.
Right, so that's powerful,that's powerful.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
So let's just say,
I'm your client and you just
took me through your steps andI've identified the fear.
All right, now what Iidentified what happens for me
now.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
So a technique that I
learned that I really like is
you schedule it out, revisitthat in three days, put it away,
and what that does is it takesyour focus, the immediate focus,
off of it and it gives you achance to do whatever steps that
you were working on doingwhatever progress you were
making.
And then, by the time the threelike I'll say three days from
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now, you know which would be aMonday, at 6 30 PM, and if
you're still feeling thatanxiety, you're still hearing
that little voice after you'vemoved forward through those
three days, by then we'veforgotten, we've moved on, we
have already progressed Rightand that fear has lost its power
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.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Okay, I'm going to go
here because this is what I do
with clients, right, let'smanipulate the mind a little bit
.
When you feel fear, worry,discouragement, anxiety, anger,
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let that be the trigger toremind you to be courageous in
that moment.
I love that, yes to becourageous in that moment.
I love that, yes, or let thatbe the trigger to remind you of
an important value to you inthat scenario that you're in
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Right.
So let's say, the value I'mgoing to pick is integrity.
Integrity is very important.
That's my number one value,right?
Absolutely Okay.
So I got to speak in front ofan audience, I got to do this
presentation at work orsomething.
Okay, I'm scared as hell.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Shaking in your boots
.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Right, what I'm
saying is the fact that I'm
afraid and I'm very nervous.
Use that as the trigger toremind you to implement your
integrity value in that momentand see how you feel at that in
that moment.
So, the fear that I have goinginto the presentation, right,
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that's the trigger to remind methat I'm about to do the right
thing, because that's what myintegrity is right, right, right
.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I've been there.
I've been there and actually,for me, I I get stage fright
when I sing and I feel like themore nervous I am, the more the
most.
The best performance I'm it'sgoing to be the best performance
because I'm giving it my all,I'm digging in, I'm pushing
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through, because it's like youremember when you were a kid and
you were dared to jump off ofsomething or jump into the water
that you can't see into andyou're like I'm not going to do
it, I'm not going to do it.
Okay, I'm going to do it.
No, I'm not going to do it.
That whole buildup Right.
And I always say like, when,when you have those friends and
they're like let's go, let's go,let's go, and then you're like,
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okay, fine, I'll go, and thenyou're like that was the best
experience ever.
You know what I mean.
So it's like the louder thatvoice you're right the more it
can push you.
It can be like let's do it,let's do it.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Exactly, and it's
that point that I made about the
value aspect.
It's another strategy to getthrough the uncomfortable state
of being that you might be in inthat moment.
And that's another tactic,right, because what I help coach
my clients on, because I'm anenergy leadership coach and when
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you feel those unwantedemotions, the fear, the doubt,
the guilt, the hopelessness,those type of things, in that
moment of that feeling you'restagnated Right, stuck, right.
But then if you can remindyourself of a certain value or
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take certain actions, it movesyou away from that feeling, into
a more desirable state of being, which I call antibiotic energy
, where you start to feel reallygood and confident, encouraged,
standardized, right right.
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Think about it when you've beenon, like you said, you were
nervous, stage fright, right,you went through the action and
as you were speaking and doingyour thing, that fear went away.
It just kind of went awaybecause you're doing the action
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of it and that's and that's.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I'm also that person
too, that if I said that I'm
going to do something, I don'twant to disappoint, right,
myself or the other folks, andso I tell myself, well, I said I
could do it, I'm going to do it, let's go.
You know what I mean.
I have to have to be my owncheerleader and like, really
kind of keep the my eye on theball and it's like, okay, this
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is what I said I'm going to do.
And back to your point aboutintegrity I I'm not going to get
do anything that I I wouldn'tsay give advice to anyone, that
I wouldn't take myself Right.
So if, if I'm afraid it'sprobably means that I'm, I'm on
the right path Like like, forexample, me doing this full time
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, I had to step into my faithand understand that this is what
I'm supposed to be doing.
And I think to myself well, youknow, I've always been in the
corporate world.
I've always had a salary, job,I always had all these things.
But the greater good weighedbigger for me than the salary
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and the you know, cubicle andknowing I have a job.
But I always know that there'speople out there that need help.
Right, and if I, if I, it's beenput on my in my spirit to keep
moving forward to that, you know, and so I try to give that
energy to whomever I'm workingwith, so that they can feel that
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motivation and kind of fuelwhat's going on inside and and
have them realize a fear is justemotion, it's just a thought,
and, and when you have an ideaand that you want to do this,
you need to do this.
This is what your life issupposed to.
You're on the right path,though that people always say,
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oh, when you know I just do whatI love and and it's not a day
of work.
That's not true.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
It's always going to
be work.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
It's always going to
be self-reflection, it's always
going to be hard, and gettingpast that and understanding and
identifying what it is that youwant to do and taking those
steps is befriending that fearBecause, yes, you could fail.
But so what?
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The good news is you can getright back up.
I don't care if you stumble outon the stage and trip and fall
on your face.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
You just can't help
and trip and fall on your face,
you just can't help.
And when you talk about faillike I'm going to push back a
little bit because in myviewpoint it's all perspective
right, absolutely.
When I see failure, I seefailure as quitting, giving up,
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right.
We always make mistakes, right,and even if you wanted to
characterize a mistake as afailure, there's always
opportunity to grow within thatfailure or mistake.
And that's where the growthopportunity happens Absolutely.
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And so we become let's take,for example, fear of failure.
Right, it's all an illusion,and I say that because we want
shit to just be smooth.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Every day.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
All day, every day,
all day, every day, right yeah
if it was always smooth.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Where is the?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
opportunity to grow
absolutely if it's perfect.
Absolutely all the time.
No mistakes are ever made.
Ever get better if you'reperfect right.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
so I said fail,
because that's what my clients
will say, okay, and then I havethem identify well, what does
that failure look like?
What exactly is failure in youreyes?
Right, you know, being 15minutes late could be a fail to
someone, right, you know, to aninterviewer to work.
And I always tell people in mylife the mistakes that I've made
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were lessons.
They're not mistakes.
They happened for a reason,right, so that I could learn, be
stronger, understand what Ireally want so I can move
forward.
You know, if someone was tryingto find a spouse, I would say,
okay, well, what does that looklike?
What does that person look like?
How do they talk, how do theywalk, how do they move?
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When I was dating for a while, Iused to joke that I kept them
on a conveyor belt because it'slike I would ask God okay, I
need this, this, this, and thenI'd get it and I was like, ooh,
that wasn't it.
Coming back, you know, whereassome people like, well, you, you
know, if that wasn't it, thenI'm done looking for love.
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This is silly, I don't want todo it anymore.
I'm tired of getting my heartbroken and disappointed.
Well, the good news is, there'salways an opportunity to get out
and do other things andaccidentally find the love of
your life, and which is how alot of people do it right, not
on purpose and without, withouta plan, you know.
So I say all that to say youknow we make, we make mistakes,
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but that is not defcon one.
That doesn't mean that it'sover.
That means that it's anopportunity to self-reflect and
re-approach right, and, and sothat's what I get to do with
folks each time I talk to them,because once you and that's
something else about befriendingyour fear making your your
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little monster, little, evenmore littler, right, and because
you're taking that power away.
So so that's's, that's kind ofhow I see that, and I totally
agree.
You're absolutely correct.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
You know, from coach
to coach.
This is why I admire you.
You had this transformationthat you went through and you're
paying it forward, right,absolutely, and you're teaching
your clients how to do thatAbsolutely, walking the talk,
that Absolutely Walking the talkright, yeah, and Crying the
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same tears, but it's powerful,it's powerful.
It's powerful because when youtalk about transformation and I
even I see this, not just in youknow clients and people that I
work, I even see it in my familyright you carry these stories
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in your head, that you justbelieve it to be true and, like
I said earlier, that story isflawed as hell and it prevents
you from trying.
The fact that you're helping aperson dismiss that story,
change the narrative of thestory, absolutely get to the
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other side of what they used todream about.
This is huge.
It's powerful, thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
And it's.
It's a lot of work, you know,and that's the first thing that
I tell folks that I work withthis is not going to be easy,
but your life already isn't easy.
So at least let's make itbetter, right?
Right, let's change thenarrative a little bit.
You know, even a lot of timeswe have to start with the story
of our children.
You know, I thought my son waswhen he was born.
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You know he was.
You know, even, a lot of timeswe have to start with the story
of our children.
You know, I thought my son waswhen he was born.
You know he was.
You know, at least when I waspregnant, you know, you have all
these dreams and aspirationshe's going to be president, he's
going to be a football player,he's going to be whatever.
And then for them to tell methat he wasn't going to talk,
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walk, play, you know they saidhe would just be an invalid and
they didn't even want to takehim off the respirator.
And when he turned two monthsold, they said did you want to?
And I said, absolutely, becausehe's not my, my child, that's
someone that's God's child.
If he's supposed to be here,he's going to be here.
I'm not going to selfishly keephim here and I was ready to
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sacrifice that.
And then and I was only at twomonths old he's had several like
so many surgeries, like wethought he wasn't gonna gonna
make it so how I had to changemy you know, yes, he's not going
to be president, but he bringsvalue to all the folks that he
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meets.
He makes them smile, he makesthem feel welcomed, and that's
what I focus on is making surethat he can communicate that he
does have the fullest life thathe can, because that's what I
would want for myself, so I wantthat for him.
And so once we start to getover the boo-hoos of our own
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loss of the dreams that we hadfor our children, then we can.
Okay, we got that out the way.
Now what do we need to do?
How can we make this the bestthat it can be, give the best
quality of life that we can tothem and to us, right?
So when, in case of anemergency and the mask dropped
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down, put the mask on yourself,then you check.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, that's great.
I'm so happy for you.
I really am.
What's next in your coachingjourney?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
What's next for me is
I've had an opportunity to meet
with one of the local schooldistricts that has created a
community outreach program forfamilies with special needs, and
so I am working with theircoordinator to bring the program
to them, to the parents,because they do a lot of support
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groups and I think eventuallythey're going to do, like you
know, outings for the parents.
But more importantly, it'sproviding that service to, you
know, our early educationfamilies that are in the school
district, and I'm hoping to alsobe an advocate, because I have
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been there a few times having toadvocate for my own child.
Okay, okay, and so that's.
That's pretty much where myfocus is right now is getting
onto the community and gettingto where the parents are and
just being a resource and anadvocate for them.
Who are those clients?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
that you work with?
Is there a specific group thatyou work with?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Right now?
No, it's individuals.
Right now I was I am actually,excuse me working with Alta
California Regional Center ingetting in with those parents.
It's literally specifically mefeeding into, you know, the
parents of autistic childrenokay helping them deal with that
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diagnosis, that prognosis, thatlifestyle, and getting all the
best tools that you know to helpthem get through day to day.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
And how can my
audience get in contact with you
for more information or just toconnect with you?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Well, I do have a
website, it's MaliaDemiscom, and
I also have an email,maliadimas, at gmailcom, and
that's spelledM-A-W-I-Y-A-H-D-E-M-A-S, dot com
, or at gmailcom.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Awesome.
Lastly, what's a nugget or athought that you can leave us
with before we sign off?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
I'm going to share.
The biggest secret that Ilearned is that life is not hard
.
It's just the circumstancesthat we have to get through.
So just take a deep breath andtake that first step.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
There it is, mawiyah.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I appreciate you, my
sister, thank you, I appreciate
you, I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
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me in this episode of let's
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