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May 9, 2025 13 mins

If Mother’s Day feels like a struggle instead of a celebration, you’re not alone. Maybe you’re navigating postpartum depression or anxiety. Maybe you’re exhausted, overwhelmed, or grieving the version of motherhood you thought you’d have. While everyone else seems to be celebrating, you might be wondering, why doesn’t this feel good? We see you—and this episode is for you.

In this episode of Let’s Thrive Postpartum, Kelly Siebold and Ashley Moore talk honestly about how Mother’s Day can bring up complicated emotions, especially during Maternal Mental Health Month. They reflect on what this holiday means for moms who feel unseen, unsupported, or just not okay.

You’ll hear validation, real talk, and gentle guidance on how to care for yourself when celebration feels out of reach.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

  • Why Mother’s Day can be triggering for moms with postpartum depression or anxiety
  • Ways to cope if you’re not feeling joyful or celebrated
  • Small but meaningful acts of self-care when support feels limited
  • How to practice self-compassion—and why it matters now more than ever
  • The power of community and connection during emotionally tough seasons

You are not alone. You are not failing. And you are deeply worthy of care…especially today.

With the right support, you can feel better—and we’re here to help you Thrive Postpartum.

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(00:04):
Welcome to Let's ThrivePostpartum, where we tackle
postpartum depression andanxiety.
Head on, guiding you back toyourself.
Join Kelly Seabold, founder ofThrive Postpartum and Ashley
Moore, a maternal mental healththerapist.
Through honesty and laughter, weshare expert advice and real
stories.

(00:25):
While not therapy or medicaladvice, you'll find education,
support and hope.
Welcome to the village.
Let's thrive postpartum.

Kelly (00:44):
Hi, and welcome back to Let's Thrive Postpartum.
I'm Kelly

Ashley Moore (00:48):
And I'm Ashley.

Kelly (00:50):
and Ashley.
We are almost to a reallyspecial day for a lot of moms.
It is Mother's Day coming upthis weekend, and also if you
don't know, may is MaternalMental Health Month and so happy
early Mother's Day.
Ashley.

Ashley Moore (01:06):
Happy Early Mother's Day to you too.

Kelly (01:08):
Thank you.

Ashley Moore (01:09):
a year of us doing this podcast.
Can you even believe it?
I can't, and I wanna say over

Kelly (01:16):
the last year, we have met and talked to so many truly
inspiring

Ashley Moore (01:21):
Mm-hmm.

Kelly (01:22):
who have gone through struggles and have come out on
the other sides as differentpeople that I.
It's touched them greatly.
We've talked to so many expertsthat touch all the different
aspects of pregnancy andpostpartum life who are spending
their life trying to improve theoutcomes for moms.
And even though I feel likewe're talking about something

(01:44):
that is the hardest time formost of us in our life, it is.
Truly inspiring to see theamount of people that care so
deeply about you and want tohelp moms, but also that this is
becoming a much more culturallyaccepted conversation to have

(02:04):
and our original goal of let'sjust reduce the shame and have
it be a vocal conversation.
I feel like I'm glad that we arepart of kind of the shift to
more awareness.
How, what's it been for youlike.

Ashley Moore (02:16):
No, I completely agree.
I think that over the past yearit does seem like there's been
more of a spotlight on maternalmental health through, different
organizations.
Like, there's just moreawareness about it.
More people are talking aboutit.
A bunch of celebrities have comeout and talked about their own
postpartum experiences.
It feels like things are movingin a good direction.

(02:40):
And that feels really good, thatit is something that feels like
the wheels are turning andmoving people towards a place
of.
Being able to talk about itmore, get more help, hear about
all of the resources.
I think that's one of myfavorite things about this
podcast is we've had all kindsof different in out there in the

(03:03):
field who work with moms in somany different ways.
And it's just, again, it's likeyou said, it's evidence of this.
There is a community out thereof people who care really,
really deeply about moms andyour mental health.
You just have to find them whichis harder than it should be at

(03:23):
times.

Kelly (03:24):
It is, but Ashley and I are here anytime you ever need
to jump on your podcast.

Ashley Moore (03:28):
Mm-hmm.

Kelly (03:28):
And while that's the real positive, we're seeing the real
shift, it's being talked aboutmore, that doesn't mean that
moms are suffering any less,

Ashley Moore (03:36):
Right.

Kelly (03:36):
It is still one in five moms get some kind of postpartum
mental health challenge that canhappen from pregnancy, you know,
through that first year.
And as excited as Mother's Daycan be.
All the love and all the thingsthat are out there.
Mother's Day, if you arestruggling with maternal mental
health issues like we both didthat first year or when you're

(03:57):
in that dark place can also beextremely triggering.
And so could we talk a littlebit today, Ashley, about how to
honor you, where you are foryour Mother's Day, right?
We're all in different places.
We all might need differentthings.
How do we really say, maybe thisisn't how you expected to feel
this Mother's Day.

Ashley Moore (04:17):
Yeah,

Kelly (04:18):
And that's okay.

Ashley Moore (04:20):
and that's okay.

Kelly (04:21):
And that's okay.

Ashley Moore (04:22):
Yeah.
I think the big part of it isbeing able to be honest, right?
With yourself first and with,your loved ones around you.
If you're not feeling great thismother's day, or you're feeling
anxious or you're feelingdepressed, you're feeling
disconnected.
The first step is, can you saythat?

(04:43):
Can you just say like, this isreally not what I was hoping
Mother's Day was gonna be.
Because of things going on inyour life, because of things
that are going on with your ownmom or that history, it is
always okay to be honest andjust say like, this is not what
I was hoping it would be.
But that's hard.
It's really hard for mostpeople.
I mean, it's hard for me,

Kelly (05:03):
It is.

Ashley Moore (05:05):
but just saying it out loud sometimes, you know,
like it's okay.
And I love the phrase of.
Be giving yourself a statementof honesty and then ending it
with like, and that's okay.

Kelly (05:19):
Yes, so that first Mother's Day, I was hoping to
feel excited and we grew up withMother's Day.
You didn't bring your familyaround, and we celebrated my mom
and it was this loving time.
And I had to sit down and belike, I can't do that.
I'm in such a dark place, Icannot do that.
And for Mother's Day, I askedfor a day away.
The guilt that came with I needto time to step away from me was

(05:43):
strong, but it felt so great toalso say, I need a middle break.
Just let me go away and try tofind myself again for three
hours.

Ashley Moore (05:52):
Yeah.

Kelly (05:53):
needed that.
And then there's also a lot ofguilt, Ashley, that comes along
with not.
The expectation versus the needin reality.

Ashley Moore (06:00):
Yeah.
Well, and there's some, a lot ofthings that in life are not
helpful with that.
You know, in recent years withsocial media and that kind of
thing.
I think it comes down to, youknow, what is it on this day
would bring you some joy or somepeace?
I.

Kelly (06:17):
Mm-hmm.

Ashley Moore (06:18):
And that's different for everybody.
For some people, maybe theywanna be around a ton of people.
They don't want to be alone.

Kelly (06:24):
Yes.

Ashley Moore (06:24):
people, they all, the only thing they would want
is to be alone in a room in thequiet, right?
Or a day in a, like spending thenight in a hotel or having a spa
day, right?
Like, what is it that wouldfeel, that feels good, that
feels restorative that is okaywith whatever it is, know?

Kelly (06:45):
Right.
And there's also so many momswho don't have the ability to be
by themselves or to walk away ifyou're a single mom or if your
partner is not available to helpeven saying, I'm gonna give
myself five minutes today whilethe child is sleeping to do what
feels good.
I'm gonna go listen to apodcast.
I'm gonna go take a hot showerfor a few minutes.
What are those few things youcould do

Ashley Moore (07:06):
Mm-hmm.

Kelly (07:07):
for you and say, I've made it this far.
Right?
Because I think there's alsothat part of saying, I may not
feel good.
This day might not feel great,but I'm here and look how far
I've made it

Ashley Moore (07:17):
Yeah,

Kelly (07:18):
and honoring that journey that got you here so far.

Ashley Moore (07:21):
yeah.

Kelly (07:21):
I.

Ashley Moore (07:22):
we've talked about that a lot over the past year,
and it's something that comesup, I'm pretty sure for every
mom in the entire world at somepoint.
One of my favorite things toremind myself and my clients and
friends and stuff is like, whenthat guilt starts to creep in,
right to the point where you'relike, you're able to name it
like, I'm feeling guilty.
Right now is always, I love thereframe of asking yourself,

(07:47):
okay, if one of my best friendsor my sister or my cousin or
whoever came to me and said thatthis is how they were feeling,
or that this is what they haddecided to do, I be saying the
same things to them that I'msaying to myself right now, like
the way you're talking toyourself.
And 99% of the time the answeris like, absolutely not.

(08:10):
Right?
Like I would tell my friend, youdefinitely deserve a day at the
spa, right?
Like, take a day for yourself.
You never get a day foryourself.
What better time?
It's Mother's Day.
Like take a day to go dosomething.
Don't worry about it.
You know?

Kelly (08:26):
Yes.
Or go take a nap, right?
Or have someone watch a baby andyou go take a nap in the room
for four hours.

Ashley Moore (08:32):
Yeah.

Kelly (08:33):
Without the monitor.

Ashley Moore (08:34):
Yep.

Kelly (08:35):
Yeah.
In the nice, gentle way.
You're right, because we do, Iat least find, I'm usually my
harshest critic.
And you're right.
You say things to yourself thatyou would never say out loud to
someone you loved.

Ashley Moore (08:45):
Yeah.
hopefully, I mean, we also loveourselves and that is, it feels
really good to be kind toourselves.
It feels really silly sometimes,and when you practice it, it's
kind of like, well, this is odd,but it feels good just in the
same way that somebody else.
Saying those things to you feelsreally good.

(09:07):
so I always, with guilt or someof the negative thoughts or
things like that, just do thatquick reframe and find a way,
switch it around, say it toyourself a little bit
differently, a little bit nicerof a tone.
and a lot of times you'll feelbit of that like, ah, okay, that
feels better.

Kelly (09:28):
It does.
It just kind of, yeah, thereframe is a great idea finding
a way, wherever you are in thisjourney to say, I'm amazing.
I am growing a human.
I have grown a human,

Ashley Moore (09:39):
Mm-hmm.

Kelly (09:40):
have made this huge transition mentally, physically,
every possible way, and thereare hard moments, but I'm
amazing and I've got this andsome of those positive
affirmations, I'm safe.
Whatever you need to hear andkind of just reminding yourself.
That this is an incredible thingthat you are doing.
Even in those hard moments, youare still absolutely amazing and

(10:01):
you're loved, and I think kindof even getting to sell yourself
on Mother's Day, especially whenit's hard that you're safe,
you're loved, and you'reamazing.

Ashley Moore (10:10):
Yeah, yeah.
Motherhood and whatever it lookslike for all the many different
paths that it can take.
There are parts of it that arejust hard, you know, and so
don't, for a second, you know,think of, oh, well this person,
they're just, they make it lookso easy.
Unless you're watching them 24hours a day, and you have that

(10:31):
evidence.
There are parts of their livesthat are hard too.
I promise.
And I think it's, it's a good,it's just a good reminder of,
you know, like Kelly said rightnow, can you say like, I'm safe,
I'm loved, you know, have thisperson, this little tiny person,

(10:52):
and look how we got here,however you got there.
Look how we got here.
It's a journey no matter whatyour journey was.
It's a journey.
So,

Kelly (11:01):
you've got this and we're here for you.
Right?
If you need to listen to moreof, you're having hard moments,
Ashley and I would love to beyour friends and to be here.
We've been through it.
We're both out on the otherside, and it does, it made me
feel a much more empatheticperson and I.
Much more connected to my childafter everything being through
everything.
So you've got this mom.

Ashley Moore (11:22):
There's a lot of moms out there that are in the
same boat, and I think that'sbeen a really wonderful piece
about the podcast and everythingthat's been going on.
At more of, you know, the largerscale is just, you hear how many
women, right?
You see the numbers one in five,but when you start hearing
stories about people'sexperiences and you're like, oh

(11:43):
my gosh, I really thought that Iwas like the only person in the
world that this was happeningto, or the only person that had
ever had.
This thought or this kind ofexperience, and when you hear
hundreds and hundreds, thousandsof women telling their story,
I'm glad that we've been able tobe a small part of that by
hosting moms on here that havetalked about their own

(12:04):
experiences.

Kelly (12:05):
Me too.
And one of the things we'veconstantly heard is Mom said, I
felt like a bad mom.
That has been a resounding.
Feeling and it's not true.
That is a postpartum depression,anxiety that are the other
challenges that kick in, thatmake you feel like that way
because it's not true, becauseyou are being a great mom and
doing everything you can for youand for your baby, and you are

(12:27):
amazing.
So remember, you are not a badmom.
There are challenges that youcan't help, but we can be here
for you and anyone else if youwanna talk, is always here as
well.

Ashley Moore (12:36):
Yep.
Couldn't say it better myself.

Kelly (12:39):
So with that, we would love just to send you a happy,
happy early Mother's Day.
We hope that you spend timethinking about what is going to
get you some peace, some joy,even if it's just for a few
moments, or if it's for a longerperiod of time.

Ashley Moore (12:54):
Yeah.

Kelly (12:54):
are amazing.
Happy Mother's Day.

Ashley Moore (12:57):
Happy Mother's Day, mama.

Kelly (13:00):
See you next week.
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