Has Corporate Greed Ruined Modern Gaming?

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Video. Game Podcast.
Yo boy, what's going on here? Everything just went blank.
Everything is black. I don't.
Know what's going on I feel like.
God is calling us right? I'm looking at the stream right
now and it's a black. Screen, damn it.

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I don't know if you guys can hear, I mean, we, we black, but
we, I'm pretty sure you guys canstill hear us.
Yeah. It glitched out as soon as I've
noticed something was wrong as soon as the intro started and
there's nothing I could do. We're still live though, for
some reason. So we got, unfortunately we got
no nothing. Can you guys hear us?

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I'm going to try to change screens here.
Oh boy, darkness, here we are. Damn man.
Looks like you're gonna have an.Audio show y'all?
Yeah, this looks like an audio. Show.
Unless it just miraculously endson its own because I'm waiting
for it to crash. Because I was like and I'm

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black. Y'all and I'm black y'all and
I'm. Black, and I'm black 'cause I'm
black. Y'all you said I was looking at
the I'm like, uh oh, oh, no. Right before we'd be Who knows,
maybe it'll be a miracle. It'll pop up on the screen.
Yeah, yeah, you. Know.
Hold your breath man. I hear voices in my head.
They count to me. All right, I understand.

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Well, you said it. They talk to me exactly.
They talk to me. What sucks is I can't even pull
up the game. I.
Can't even pull up the game winner because I don't know who
it is. You can't talk the winner.
Nothing happened. You can't even look it up.
All we could do is just I got the, I got one of the news
articles over here. Thank God I put them up on the
side. But.

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Is there an OneDrive? I even put up, I even recorded
footage from my freaking gameplay.
Damn man of a game that you can't that no one knows about.
No one is supposed to see. And it's crazy.
They must have attacked no one. They must have gotten our system
for real, man. Someone's after.
I swear to God. Everything was working perfectly
fine. I did a test stream.
Everything was good. I'm like, all right, good.

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And then it wasn't. And then slowly but surely.
Well, listen, if they're, if youknow, if Chad is busy and they
got us in the background, they won't notice that the camera's
off you. Know who I blame us on?
This is our intern's fault, man.He's supposed to make sure this
is all good to go. Bizarre.
What the hell, man? Saying he sabotages?

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He sabotages, man. God damn it.
Bizarre. Somebody's out to get us.
You know what? Life goes on. 4 minutes into the
stream. That's wild.
And we are completely glitched. This is.
Real. This is a media glitch.
Yep. Yeah, I know Keg was here.
So it's probably it's it's definitely a media glitch.
He. Threw a virus in the chat.

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Right away, so watch this y'all.What he did is dirty this.
Is weird man this is so weird dirty.
We can't even do shorts from this no this.
Is. Wild we can we could add I mean
video game footage. Oh, we could add video game.
We have to just B roll of everything we're talking about.
That's why we say that's important.

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It's not obvious. It really sucks because I have
footage that I literally recorded yesterday to show
everybody out there, and I'm going to have to, it's going to
have to upload it now separately, I'm going to have to
upload it with audio. And yeah, I'm going to have to

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do that because this is not. Where is our winner on our on
the actually? Yeah, you know what?
I can find it. Because it shouldn't be on.
There I can find it. Because.
Not going to be able to pull it up on the screen but I can find
it though that I can do. Yeah, and because the show
didn't go on two weeks ago is when we supposed to announce
this winner for last month? Oh.

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Damn. Yeah, because Turbo usually
doesn't. Yeah.
So I think that's part of the problem.
I mean, what started was the technical issues.
And yeah, it's a running theme on our podcast.
Giveaway winners. Let's see.
Yo, Cafe Fox is crazy, not goingto lie.
Turbo was the keystone. When everything falls apart

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without him, he's probably the one who's ruining everything.
Yeah, he's probably sabotizing. He's like, yeah, that's why you
guys ain't going to have a good stream without me.
He's like fuck this. He's like, you guys realize the
importance I have to the crew. Ah, here we go.
September winner there already two weeks in October.
It's the September winner. Hold up.

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September winner that nobody cansee but you guys can see.
Congratulations to The Rock Under Score Y2J, the winner of
Lovely 5 Sevens monthly game giveaway for September.
Congratulations. The bomb is the bomb is going to
go off late. Oh.
Man, he said. No 60 frames, no streams.

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Damn right about. That, but you guys can't hear
us, right? The rock under score Y2J
Congratulations, Congrats, Congrats, Congrats.
In darkness. In darkness.
Darkness. Darkness, Brothers.
We'll get you that game. We'll contact you.
Yeah. What else do we have to talk
about? Oh yes.

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This sucks because. You can't show game, no, but we
could talk about it. Yeah, we do have game plan on
the channel, but the Indie Game of the week for this week is
Abathor. Abathor.
You know what I don't and I wishI had the credentials.
I don't want to waste it on a dark screen, I mean.
Oh, yeah, They can hear us. They can hear us, OK.
No, they can still hear us, but I'm saying we're going to edit

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this later and put this up on her channel so.
Yeah, we'll put up the footage. We'll put up the actual footage.
Of the game, the actual. Footage.
So yeah, the the audio is still,we could still use the audio.
The game footage. But unfortunately, yeah, listen,
not going to be able to show it,but yeah, let's talk about the
game. Abbathor, Abbathor I.

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Didn't play it so I can't talk about it.
That's right, because that's right.
You didn't play it because it had platforms and Chuck doesn't
like platforms. I don't like platforms, so
listen up. Wow, closest thing I can put
this to is like if you've ever seen the side scroller called
Rostnon. Dumbass so people can't see
what's going on. I'm.

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Still cold? Out or now can be dumbass.
I mean, yeah, yeah. It's kind of throws people off.
They don't know what the Hell's going.
On. Oh well.
But yes, the closest thing I cancall Avatar is a or player side
scrolling action game similar toRastan if you've ever seen that.
Rastan Altered Beast. Yeah, kind of like that old
school Sega, a little bit Sega Master System, but like Sega

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Genesis feel. Conan and Barbarian esque. 4
player Co-op mainly feels like Rastan, but you do turn into
each person turns into their ownindividual beast that has that's
extra strong and shit like that.But don't miss the what is it
the the the orb that you have toget, because if you miss the
orb, you'll be sitting there like an idiot and you won't be
able to change into the other form.

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But that was a that was a long title too, man.
What the story mode in the game?Yeah, it's pretty pretty.
That's it for for that type of game.
It's pretty starting getting very tough Towards the end.
I was like, God damn shit. I I wasn't happy with the the
traps that they would throw in. There's some fucked up traps.
They're doing some messed up traps.
If you played it before, then you know what to expect with.

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It's like you got no like reaction time to like even get
out the way. He got killed and he had a
Jonestar by Boulder, I remember.I do remember that the last one
walking and he got ran over and I couldn't help but the laugh.
That shit was funny, the spikes that just randomly came out and
dope soundtrack too. Dope soundtrack.
Oh yes, dope soundtrack. Yeah, it shows how few and far
between that type of game there is.

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There should be more of it. Does this work?
You know, there's 11 respect that works, respect to the
people in the chat. Right now there's 11 people in
the in the chat. Because they real ones, they the
real ones. They're looking at a black
screen. They're looking at a black
screen. They probably have his
background. They probably have his
background. I hope so.
Hit those like buttons. Strongly advised 'cause if if
you don't, I don't know what's wrong with you.

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What are you doing? Don't don't watch the black
screen. Get some things done while
hearing us suffer. Yeah, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't recommend somebody towatch a black screen man.
There is a thing called audio podcast, yeah.
That's. True yeah a lot of people listen
audio podcast we'll. Hope so.
Probably not with this voice, but.
This is a live audio podcast. Yes, which is weird.

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Which is. Streaming on YouTube.
Switch anything. I don't even know if I can end
the podcast to be honest. Plug everything.
I have no idea, dude, I have no idea.
It's a first. It's a first.
Thing is, I'm afraid to hit any buttons because I don't want it
to short out it end this podcast, so I'm going to wait
until it's time to end it. Well, yeah.
They said stream's never been blacker.
Oh man. Avatar definitely gets that

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level 857. So you look let's see ah, that
that button works that button works.
I know this this works here so. Yes, if you're looking for a
multiplayer or single player butfour player, yes.
Pick up avatar. Give it a shot.
Hell yeah, man. That's one of my multiplayer
indie games. Let's see.
What else do we got here? Games we've been playing, Yes.

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No sense showing gameplay footage, but yeah, yeah, we'll
talk about it. Of course.
Yeah. Heroes of Mount Dragon.
We finally completed the game. Four players.
That's right. Very dope game.
Very dope game. Underrated.
Indie. Beat them up, man.
Very underrated. Yeah, it's a.
It's a gem for sure. Not enough people know about.
For sure. On the Switch and I believe the

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PS-5 and the Xbox, they have 6 of the 8 characters available
now. There's two more that are going
to be available eventually. Yeah, it's Steam also.
Yeah, and yeah, but yeah, this was this was a lot of fun.
I didn't think it would be anything, but it was a it was a
great time, definitely great. I even bought it on the Switch
after Yeah, yeah, I even it was like 17 bucks.

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I'm like, yeah. Fuck, that's not bad.
Just to try out the other characters, because we will play
it again on another playthrough.A lot of new characters, yeah,
but they're all done very well. Very, very well.
Yeah, I think they really sound like every two months or
something like that. I like the the dragon specials
are dope. Yep yeah man.
Especially the way that you can level them up.
Also, that moves for them. And it's got, it's got a very

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Saturn like appeal to it. Yeah, it's got that Guardian
here, the Guardian heroes, so feel to it.
Well, I almost had an epic stutter in there too.
I cut that shit off. I almost said something
completely off. I was like no, that don't sound
right. You know what, I'll save these
links so I can give it to you guys for reference.

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Yeah, you guys can check it out as we talk if you want to see
what it looks like, you know. Yeah, heroes amount of Dragons
though man, I highly highly recommend it.
Yeah, The cool thing about theseIndies though, we talk about
them. Not a lot of people talk about
them and you might not hear about them because we didn't
know anything about it before, like a random video online.
So hopefully you guys check it out.
So that's why we give you the heads up on them.

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I'm glad you said that actually,because one of the games I want
to talk about is Adventures of Samsara.
I finally finished it. It almost sounds like a stutter
too right? Samsara?
Like they were trying to spell it out.
They gave up halfway. This game was dope, man.
It's dope. Oh, you guys can hear that?
I heard it, yes. The audience can't hear that.

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Oh, really? The audience cannot hear that?
That's weird that that's working.
They can't hear that. But then they see a black
screen. Yeah.
Yeah, this. Is crazy.
No, this game definitely a sleeper.
It's not the greatest game I've ever played, but it gets a solid
like 7 out of 10 solid. It's a solid metroidvania.
They took a lot of elements fromother great Metroidvanias like

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Blasphemous and, you know, Symphony of the Night.
Like the level design is pretty dope.
One thing and I really liked wasthe boss battles.
They're very different. Really.
Yeah, like they're none of them were exactly the same.
Each one was like different and it was almost puzzle esque.
One by the spider boss. I remember that was that was
crazy. That was a dope boss.

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Like to figure out how to beat them.
I was like I. Like the spiders?
These two big chains on the side, you have to attack the
chains I found out, and then thespider comes down as you hit
attack the change that weakens it.
I mean, that's what I would do. And then to fight a giant
spider. But throws enemy spiders at you.
You have to fight on top of that.
But you can. You could swap in and out

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weapons as well. You get upgrades, get the double
jump, you get a like a booster jump like a backpack.
You get a grappling hook later on.
It's freaking dope. They're all really don't.
Yeah. It's it's like a combination of
like Narita boy. Also it feels like it with like
the animation. Animation I'm anime over.
Here very good dialogue in the game like the people that you

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encounter. It's very Zelda esque but chow
dope game. My only gripe with with the
whole game though, and this is because obviously this is a
small team that made this. This game is the music.
That's my only gripe with it. Even the lost last boss battle
had the same music of all the battles.
No, So I was like you got you got to.

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They kind of they kind of rehashed that.
I was like that's it's supposed to be and it was an epic battle,
but it kind of took away from ita little bit because it wasn't
different from all the other battles, man.
You got it. You got.
It what was the name of the gameagain?
Adventure of Samsara, Sam. Samsara, S AM Sara.
Adventure of Samsara. And actually typed the other

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game in too. Yeah, actually, yeah, I could
put that in the chat. They beat them up, right?
Yeah, I could tell you the chat.Yeah, this way you guys have
something to reference? Adventures of Samsara made by
Atari. They're trying to make their
comeback I. Didn't make it, but.
Yeah, it sucks, man. It's it sucks because they
released it the same day as SilkSong, which is like a highly

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anticipated Metroidvania. It also indie, so you kind of
want to give it flowers too because it's an indie, you want
to support the Indies. But this one got overshadowed
like crazy crazy overshadowed. But it is definitely a a gem.
I think it's the same price too.It's 20 bucks on all the
platforms. Too damn high.
I mean, it's the same for it's the same price as Silk songs.

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I know $20 is fine. I forgot to drink this Hawkeye.
Oh, this Hawkeye. I I.
Talking about Yeah, I was going to fire up clear obscure.
Cheers, Sir. Cheers.
Expedition 33 was about to fire it up and then I realized, oh
shit, I installed. I forgot that I installed Gears

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5 on my Legion Go and I was like, you know what?
It doesn't take that long to beat this game.
Damn it. Yo, he got sidetracked.
Let me play soundtrack my gears only play.
But this is not, I'm not going to be on it for more than what's
my I never played you. No, I played up to four.
I stopped after 4. 5 is so much better than.
Four never played five at all. So anyway.
We could have streamed that. I just finished the the 4th, the

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first act there's four acts in the game.
I have to look that up and I'm like all right, cool.
So far so good, so far so good. I'm liking it.
He's going to get stuck and not play your game again.
No, it's not going to happen, man.
I'm end up playing that game before I you're.
Going to be all a week *** *** The game I I wanted to show you

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guys, which I will pull. I'm going to post it up after
this podcast is up. It's a unofficial Tetris game,
indie Tetris game called PerfectDiamond.
Looking up footage of this game.First of all, there's only one
person that put up footage of this game.
In the world, yeah. On YouTube and I looked it up.
I'm like, wow, there's only one person that put this up and it's

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a live stream and they just played it for like, I think it
was like 15 minutes long and that was it.
And it's a Tetris, but isometric.
Very, very interesting way to play Tetris.
Obviously they can't name it Tetris.
There you go. It was like Papa's.

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Obviously they can't name it Tetris, it's the same kind of
graphics, but yeah, that's like a.
Isometric Tetris. And that's just taking forever
to load. I don't know why it's taking
forever to load. Anyways, nothing works.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro, just let it.
Just let it play. But just so you guys can see
what it looks like, don't. Mess with me.

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I like the game, it's very difficult to control, that's my
only issue with it. I would I would guess.
Moving up and down and left and right doesn't always work so and
it's I guess frustrating, especially when it starts
getting faster. Yeah, controls for Tetris.
I think it would work better if it was like twin stick controls

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maybe? Overhead, yeah, controller,
right? But what they graphically
though, they'll say the music isvery dope.
It's very good. It's it's reminiscent of NES.
And in fact, I found out that they they made of copy like for
the NES. It's on Steam right now and I
think there's a there's a physical copy that you can get

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for your NES as well, but that'sit.
It's just for Steam and. So this is something we'd see on
Tetris Tuesday. Yeah, shout out to.
Tetris Tuesday. Yeah, yeah, he's.
Like don't even mention that. Too much energy man, Too much
time. Don't blow up my spot too much
time. But it's something that we would
have seen on that show, yeah. Word.

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Yeah, definitely. Tuesday.
But yeah, you can call Tetris today and just play when you.
Want Tetris today? Yeah, that's actually pretty
funny. Tetris today, But yeah, that
footage will be up later tonight.
What else? Chalk.
How did Resident Evil 2 remake? I don't.

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I don't mess with Mr. X, man. X Don't give it to you.
Chill, you met him. Yeah, man, Fright Friday, man,
move the whole damn helicopter. Like what you mean what you mean
just what? And just casually started
walking down the hallway like bro bro.
He's happy. With those heavy ass footsteps.
He didn't even get to that, to that part.

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Bro he didn't. Even get to the part you meet
him several times in the game. I know I have a feeling.
Yeah, that, that, but that part,that one part, I know that
you're going to freak out. I I, I watched him.
I watched him in the, when he met him with the helicopter, and
then I watched him in the prisoncell.

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The, the, the, oh, that was the part.
Yeah, yeah, He watched him down there.
That was pretty funny. Yeah, the prison cell was not
cool bro, because. Everyone plays that scene kind
of differently. Like me.
When they opened, I sprinted right before they all came out.
And then when at the end of the hallway, the dude punched me in
the fucking face. Yep.
But but Chuck waited for all thezombies to come out and gave him
leg shots. So they were all crawling and
then you're. So he ran through it and then

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the dude just popped in like, yo, what up?
How's it going? I heard some gunshots.
Yeah, he's popped. You want a clothesline?
You want a clothesline? How about one of these?
He's like, yeah, what's good? Oh, this is where you are?
What up? No, it was crazy.
I'm like good, I'm like because the stream before that I was
like, yo, he's not getting anywhere.
There's dogs chasing them back and forth in the fucking garage.

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Can you please? I knew the garage part is right
near it's right near the reveal of Mr. X and I was like I need
him to meet list the X and. Then you I needed, I needed a
guy, man. I needed a my boy Paul.
Yeah, he was helping. Yeah, Help me.
Yeah, Paul C was guided the way.Wow, but.
Yeah, I don't mess with Mr. X, that was that was messed up.

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You know one thing about watching you play that that like
I, I, I was like, oh, that just the sound of the liquors.
They make me, they still make even watching us someone.
It's mad cringey it. Makes me uncrow.
It makes my skin. Crawl.
I don't like them. At all.
Nah, dude. Don't like them?
Nope. Not if you play PT, this would

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never happen. You're worried.
See that there's none. None's killing you in PT.
Nothing comes out. Yeah, man.
Yeah. PT is just, you know,
supernatural. Right.
No, there's no mistake. Shut.
Up. It's just supernatural, man,
that's all. Just ghost, that's all.
That's shit, man. What's the ghost gonna do to
you? Man 1 ghost.
Yeah, it's actually one. Ghost One.
Ghost tidy. All tidy.

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I'm not playing PT get out of here.
Come. On y'all lucky I'm playing
Resident Evil 3 I mean 2 whatever.
You. Don't even know what.
You're playing that shit. Get out of here.
What's up, Missy? What up?
What up? What?
Up. What up?
Yeah, we're in darkness. Yeah, we're.
Yeah, we didn't pay the light bills, so please hit the like
button. Yo, where's Leslie at with the

(20:54):
Super chat? Maybe we got paid for these.
Lights we got. Yeah, these.
Cameras man, they turning everything off.
Oh man. We're going broke here, man.
We need your support. We need your support.
I don't believe this. I know, I texted.
I texted Leslie the link. He, he laughed.
He's like, bro, I said. Bro, technical difficulties got
us talking on the black screen. He just laughed.
Yeah. He's like, I need some money.

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You broke mother. Yes.
I mean, whatever you can muster up, please.
Thank you. We.
Appreciate it. Yeah, Resident Evil too, bro.
Like, Nah, son, I'm tired of this.
Nah, tired of the jump scares, tired of hearing his stupid
heavy steps every time I walk around somewhere and he's just

(21:35):
like mad calm. I figured that'd be a type of
game. Man let's do prune face old Mr.
XI shot him in the face and knocked his hat off and got an
achievement for it. Terrible.
F you Mr. X shot something at least.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, Chuck, shoot that
dog. No, shoot that zombie.
Nope. Just shoot these motherfuckers.
I wasn't wasting y'all. I wasn't going to waste my ammo.
Yo the aiming in that game is terrible bro it's.

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Terrible. Oh the best was chalks.
Point blank. Point blank shotgun miss.
That shit was ill. That zombie was right in his
face. He shot over the shoulder.
Yeah, that's Christ. I'm like, yeah, turn this game
off. Wow, turn that game off.
I loved it. Turn it off.
Did you have any elves in Ghost of Yote?
Oh yeah, yeah, I took some elvesin Ghost of Yote.
Come on man. Come on man, you streamed that?

(22:17):
I didn't stream it. How far did you get in it?
I'm like 20 hours in. Yeah.
Oh, that's nice. Nice damn chunk.
That game is fire, bro. That game is fire.
It's it's you're playing cinema,pretty much.
Just as good as the first. Yeah, I would say so.
Better. Better or just as good?

(22:37):
Like I'm having a great time with it.
I think it might be better. I think it might be better.
It's still like visually like. Mechanically or story wise,
better. I want to say mechanically, I
feel like the fighting is smoother and just I mean, the
visuals are still on par with the first one, like right,
beautiful, beautiful visuals of the landscape and.

(22:59):
Everyone forgets that was for PS4, not 5 exactly.
Exactly. That's crazy, man.
And yeah, man, I like, it's justfun hunting these dudes down and
you know. Oh, is.
That fighting them. Got to be specific, man.
You got to be specific. Yo, y'all a idiot, y'all a real?

(23:23):
Black screen, nobody can see so you got to be specific man.
I didn't even finish the sentence.
I'm sorry, I just had to hit thebutton just for the hell of it.
I'm sorry man, I'm. So tired of y'all.
I'm so tired. Anyways, it's.
Going to be delayed. I do it.

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It's mad fun hunting down the bounties because you know you
got to fight them and there's a shut up and there's and every
time you duel someone, there's like this little cinema in front
of it. I don't remember if there was if
it was the same thing for the for the original game, but like
it's just, it's just so cool. Like it's you're literally
playing a movie. You're a samurai.

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Yeah, Samurai. Well, Nah, she's not really a
samurai. No, Nah, she's a, she's an
outlaw. She's kind of a Ronian.
Yeah, can't wait to play it nextyear.
No, seriously, I'm not playing that.
Just. Yeah, there's no way I'm getting
to that this year. I got to play the first one.
Not at first. Glad that you didn't.

(24:28):
But you and Kev, right? You.
Yeah, You and Turban play it. Maybe a couple of months.
How yo how Kev put 200 hours into Zelda?
More than that before. He's like 2.
That's the minimum, almost three.
That was for the six. Months crazy.
Oh he's definitely over three. I guarantee that's.
Crazy he probably still. Plays it now.
Yep. Easily.
And. Marvel Wobbles doesn't even

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play. What'd you play?
For Marvel Marvel rivals Daredevils out.
He's. Fun.
Yeah, he's fun bro. And Punisher gets a.
But he can't see. Let me stop it's.
Kind of like the show so. What does he do?
He's watching our show. Damn.
Bro, this is what he looks like.That's his point of view.

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He's a daredevil watching our podcast.
Yo, y'all are so disrespectful, so disrespectful.
But yeah, he he he he's pretty fun.
He's he's he's very fun. His move set is it's kind of
sick. I saw a video of him blocking

(25:30):
everything. Yeah, yeah, he.
Every finisher period I was like, damn, that's that fun.
He can he. Can deflect a lot so.
I suffer like maybe two of them.Two of them he couldn't do.
Yeah. Yeah, he's quite so close.
He's. Like a iron fist motherfucking.
Yeah. Boring.
But I saw him fuck Iron Fist stuff.
Ohh, no, yeah, no, he's still. He's mad.

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Daredevil is mad. Crazies.
Daredevil is mad. You know, like when a new
character comes out there like Power.
Yeah, that's where he is right now.
You can fuck everybody up. Yeah, and like I, I used
Daredevil a couple times. I got MVPA couple times I'm.
Like wow, and you just started and you just started.
And I'm just thinking to myself,I'm like, did I really deserve
MVPI think? No.

(26:12):
I honestly think there might be a glitch where like if you even
rank in the top three, you just get MVP with Daredevil.
And I'm just, it's like, what? Because no, there were a couple
times that I didn't have the most damage, I didn't have the
most knockouts and you just won and I got and I got the and I
got the MVP. It might, it might have been
because of a clutch play, but we'll see.
I don't know. Hey you never know cuz like if

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you had a kill that swung the entire momentum right that could
they could look at that also. Kind.
Of but I don't know how they grade that.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, cuz I mean, at the end of the game is
where I started shining. I started taking out the other
team. I was sneaking up on the
healers, knocked them out, snuffed them.
And, well, that changes the entire.
Yeah, that changes everything. And I took out, I took out Groot

(26:55):
with Daredevil. Oh damn.
Yeah. Oh, he gonna get nerved.
Yeah, he gonna get nerved. No, it wasn't easy.
Yeah, it wasn't easy. I had to dodge a lot.
There's dodging in that game. I mean, I mean, you have to, you
know, you got, you got to move on a swivel, got to keep your
head on swivel, you know what I'm saying?
That shit's crazy. And Mabel wobble marble.
Wobble and Mabel wobbles. I wonder who they're going to
release for season 5. Oh.

(27:15):
Boy Robble. The the rumor is Rogue and
Gambit. But I heard about Rogue.
Yeah, I heard Rogue Gambit wouldbe.
Dope cyclops in it. No.
Cyclops is rumored also, for a minute, he should be in
surprise. He's not.
Yeah, yeah, he'd be fun in that game.
Oh, hell yeah, he'd be fun in that game.
Just blast the shit out of everybody.
Yeah, and. And Gambit too.

(27:36):
Hell yeah, credit card. That's all I played.
That's all I hear. Credit.
Card card. How is Styx?
How's Horizon? A whole man.
So I've been W finally after three years I'm playing that,
but at first I was like I didn'trecall how I played the first

(27:58):
one because I remember I played the hell out of it, but now I
was like, all right, what is thehow do you how do you duck?
What's the game played loop now?Yes.
I know I'm serious. No.
It's really crippling. It's very crippling.
I remember it was a trip. The trigger button was for like
attacking. The top button yeah one out two.
But at first I was like all right, starting off a little
slow. I don't know if I'm going to

(28:18):
enjoy just like the first one, but I must say that the gameplay
loop has caught me. I am completely engrossed in
that game now because it looks phenomenal even after all this
time. Sensational, like the journey W
is it like, yo, I was just goingto like all the campsites I saw.

(28:39):
I was like, yo, this one way over there, I'm gonna go light
up all these just so I can get around faster.
But anything I ran up on as I'm going there is just like, I
don't know what these missions are, but I'm gonna take it.
I'm gonna fight this thing, fight this thing.
And at first I was running from everything 'cause I wasn't, I
wasn't powerful enough. But he was a bitch.
But then I got my levels up. I'm like level 35 right now.

(29:01):
I got 27 hours in in the past like 3 days.
Yeah dude, 'cause I'm like, you know, I'm playing this for like
9-9 hours straight. Like this is ridiculous.
So it's been taking over everything.
I'm going to get through that pretty soon.
But that's good though, because that's how it should be when
you're immersed in the open world game rather than just like
trying to run through it throughthe main missions and get it

(29:22):
over with. I don't want to do that.
No, plus I don't feel bored doing it like.
Yeah, they're actually fun to dothe side shit.
Like I think I spent two hours yesterday saying, all right,
this is the last, it's the last part.
And then three hours later you're like, I got to go to
fucking bed. That's that's a good game.
That's a very good game. I.
Was like, let me save here, I'm gonna stop here.
But but what's what's right overthis bridge though?

(29:44):
Like I know I'm not going to stop now.
It's an amazing game. Dude, I was like sabotaging
convoys, like things, setting uptraps to get him through.
Like there's a bunch. There's so many missions you do.
I fought the Loch, this monster.Wow, like I, I don't even
remember that at all. I really don't.
Cause what's funny is I was like, yo, there's a beach.
They showed the the the coast. That was a side mission, right?

(30:06):
I I mean, everything's a side mission away playing, but yeah,
there was, I just saw the beach and I was like, yo, they got
waves over there. That's crazy that.
Beach. And then I walked down there and
I was like, what's this dinosaurover here, though?
And then I saw him in the background and he was like the
like this monster. And then he started creeping up.
And then this boss music started.
I was like, yo, what is happening right now?
What is this thing creeping up on me?

(30:26):
And then I ran and then I got. And then I.
Ran. I ran like a.
Bitch, no, I was out of bullets,I was out of like arrows.
I was like let me let me re up and then I was like let me just
move on with my mission. But he was on the map still,
right? So I was like, Nah, I got my
weapons, I'm going back to him. And I was like, I thought I beat

(30:46):
that guy, I'm done with the game.
So I went back. I had I beat him like I had one
hit left to my health and I tookhim out.
He died, his promotion. I was like, there you go, there
you go. Gotti.
So yeah, yeah, that gameplay loop has got me like Part 1 did.
It's a great. Game.

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Yeah, great. Don't sleep on Horizon.
It always gets slept on. Don't sleep on Horizon.
Yeah, you can't. No, cannot.
But yeah, that's all I'm playingright now.
But. That's all you should be.
Playing that's I'm gonna get through that, Yeah, it's
ridiculous. I know about that game, Luke.
I, I finally played, I said gaming Luke, which is actually
appropriate because I'm playing Jedi Survivor because remember

(31:30):
before I had to start over. So I, I got past the part I was
before now I did four to five hours straight of that game.
And this game's a problem. This game is a problem because I
remember I was telling me when he played it, he's like, I don't
really care for customizations and stuff.
Yep. You know how much I love it.

(31:51):
Oh, there's a lot of it in this one.
I said, Oh my God, there's so much shit.
Yeah, like a lot of. Customers, what's this outfit?
With the Cape, oh shit, I could do what with my hair?
I'm like oh this is let me change my lightsaber to yellow
and I went bad shit crazy with the customizations dude.
And you can customize that lightsaber.
You can customize everything, every freaking aspect of the

(32:11):
light side and your outfit and your hair and you're fucking.
I did, man. Oh my gosh.
There was like I went to like this main town, the first like
main town you get to when you start talking to people from the
first game or whatever. What is this Black Lives Matter
stream? Wow.
Extra black. We extra black today.

(32:31):
Can't. Well, you can't see this.
Throw up the black fist in the chat right now.
Throw up the black fist, No. No, this is the early Halloween
stream, Yes. It's it's supposed to be spooky,
but the, the the effects aren't working.
Yeah, we're we're protesting. Yeah, we're cameras.
What the hell? Yo, shout out to the chat for 13
heads being in here and, you know, showing support.

(32:54):
Well, we have these these these these issues, unforeseen issues.
Shout out to y'all man keep haunting us every week.
Yeah, for real. We all know.
Shout out, but no Jedi Survivor that that game's a problem
because I'm really, really enjoying it already.
And it's very early into the game, like extremely early into
the game. And I'm like, damn, all right.
Like there was, there was like 2fucking side missions and I'm

(33:17):
like, I'm doing them both. Like I, I want to do everything
in that game. So that's going to be, I'm going
to be on that for a while. I'm going to be on that for a
while. Why aren't you showing footage
now? Wow, wow, Funny enough, I am.
The audience just can't see. Charlie Mac says hashtag pitch
black. Yo, what up, Charlie Mac at the

(33:39):
building? What's good?
So yeah, got a nice five hours out of that game.
After that I was, I was like, you know what?
Let me just play Absalom for a quick second.
I I played the fuck out of that game last night.
Man that game is amazing. It is so I don't know if anyone

(33:59):
in the Chad has played Absalom, but holy shit from the peeps who
did Streets of Rage Four. That game is beautiful and the
music is just. So.
Immersive and it's and you know what this is weird.
Every every time I died, I was like, I was kind of happy
because I'm like, at least I getto hear the first parts of music
again Like I just wanted to hearthat music again.

(34:20):
I don't know what the fuck it was.
I was like, it's just something about that game and it's like,
even though it's rogue light andyou're supposed to get pissed
off that you have to do everything over, there are some
permanent upgrades that you can do that make you feel stronger.
And there's also different pathsin each.
Like there's a big map, but you could, you know, go different
ways. But when you choose different
directions, different things happen each playthrough.

(34:42):
And you unlock more characters, like two other playable
characters. One of them I unlocked, I'm
thinking my third playthrough after I got killed by the first
boss. But there's just so much stuff
going on that it does not feel like it's it's repetitive.
It doesn't feel like, oh, here we go doing the same shit again.
I'm going to die at the same part.
No, it's just feels better. And this, the upgrades are
fucking crazy. So yeah, if you haven't messed

(35:05):
with Absalom, I highly, highly, highly recommend that game.
I can't stop playing it. I was playing it before the
podcast. I was like, this is the
soundtrack is ridiculous. It's ridiculous.
The road light done right. Yeah, it's it's A and the sound
effects. This is what Streets of Rage
Four got right. The the sound effects of when
you hit someone. The sound effects when you hit

(35:25):
someone in Absalom. Just the bass, right?
You heard that bass? I heard it.
Yeah. It's like a fucking like it
feels good. It feels really good to beat
someone up. But no, please definitely check
that game out. It's fucking.
Was it 22 bucks or something like that on switch?
Probably less on Steam. It's Co-op too.
Yeah, and it's two player Co-op,so.
You'll see it on channel, don't worry.
Yeah. We're going to play the hell out

(35:46):
of that. I'll play it.
I mean, me and Six played it will probably go back in and
I'll play it with Al and I'll play it with chalk.
I'll play it with Turbo. I'll just keep going back into
the game. I don't even care.
That's going to be a different play through each time.
Dude, I love that game. It's really awesome.
Man, you know, shout out to the 18 heads in the chat watching
the. World 18 heads.
Wow. Wait, does that mean it only
even like to see? Us.

(36:07):
Yeah, I think so. I see him.
Man, I that might be alright. Man, they might be missing all
this face right here, you know? Word.
All this we need to pay this light bill.
So yeah. Hit that like button if you
don't want to see us. Yeah, we had some big plan.
We had like an Only Fans episode, you know, we were going
to like show our feet. Listen, we got costumes on right
now, but you can't see. You can't see.

(36:28):
Yo imagine if we did if we did like an actual like the the
Halloween one with the costumes and this happened.
That would. Be crazy.
Imagine if like we you know, when we upload this or whatever
we put like puppets imitating usjust talking so we can do that.
It's way too much work. I'll do it.
That's a lot of work. Let AI do that.
I can do it, man. Yeah.

(36:48):
Where's? A CGB riking in the house.
Yo what? I'm riking.
Wait, I didn't even do a roll call before, right?
We didn't even do that. No, we got, we got CGB Raiken,
we got Arjun Devaraj the Enforcer, we got Charlie Mackey
Junior. We got World of Bizarre.
I said Kag already, right? We got Kag, We got Cafe Fox, we

(37:13):
got Missy, we got who else we got.
Launch. I did not even see the.
Damn it. Well, the sound effects work.
That's good to. Know.
Oh man, my ears. Jesus Christ, Ow.

(37:36):
Oh my God. Oh, you can see his face when he
does it. Oh boy.
I mean, there's no graphic for it, so it actually hurt me.
I'm going to say what it this can we just go straight into it
because there's only one article.
This is crazy. Like people like us when they
can't see us, they like us so much better when they can't see
us. This.
Is this shit? Man I'm tired of looking at

(37:58):
these motherfucks. I just bought a new camera for
this. Arjun just gave me the.
He gave me the cosine on the pronunciation.
We love to see it. No, Chuck.
You pronounce everything perfectly.
Yeah, I prefer we want sticks to.
Pronounce Mass. Mass.
Produce. You know it's Arjun Devaraj, the
enforcer. Look at that.
Look at this guy. Something else just turned off

(38:20):
on my side there, OK? That should be good.
I don't think the audience heardthat, but alright, it'll be
good. It sounds like the computer's
about to crash, but everything'sbreaking down.
Just be aware that the show can stop at any moment, yeah?
Surely the show can end at anything.
Literally any freaking moment. So hit that like button before
it. Happened.
Yup. Seriously, tell all your friends
before do that before that should happen.

(38:40):
Any super chat I want to do do before crashing?
Yup. Like a freaking minefield.
Right now it's. Like.
You walk around, feels like, youknow, we don't have to switch to
any screen, we just go right through.
This is all the article. This is hilarious.
All right, so. With the new.
Oh, wait, we got, oh, we got to do a blank new song.

(39:01):
I mean, there's nothing to switch to.
So it's just whatever guys. Shit.
Here we go is. It time time for.
What for? What?
Guys? What is it?
Oh my God, are you having an aneurysm?
Idiot. Yes, it is.
Ladies and gentlemen, it is timefor the news.

(39:31):
Yeah, $5 Super Challenge. Let's go accept.
This $5 to help and pay the light bill I don't.
Think that's enough, but that's so thank you.
We appreciate it if you. Turn the lights back on for
about 15. Any little bit counts.
Before they shut. This podcast give us 5.
Minutes. It's probably.
Because of the topic, they probably sabotage their.

(39:54):
Shit, the fucking start. Trashing these fucking baby
Dick. Fucking greedy.
Bastards. Damn, so on with the news.
Oh yeah, sorry, on with the news.
This is an article I found on the Vice.
It's on the channel description.They're interested in finding
the link. US gamers aren't buying video
games anymore. A new study reveals they aren't.

(40:14):
Buying video games huh? Yes, I just bought 2 games in
the past two weeks. Well The thing is I'm American.
The majority of people that think it was like 60 from this.
Article said well look it says US gamers no it.
Says US gamers. Yeah.
Sir, no US gamers. No, it says a recent study
indicates a shift and US gaming habits, with the majority of

(40:36):
consumers buying fewer video games.
Only 30% of US gamers purchase one or two games annually, while
33% don't buy any new games at all.
That's good. Catch up on your backlog you
greedy fucker. Well, listen, the bigger, the
bigger number, the more percentage of people who do what
such and such. So if tons of people playing

(40:56):
free to play games, playing Fortnite and Call of Duty free
to play, those count as a huge 33%.
So you see bigger numbers, but that doesn't always mean more
sales. Yep.
But the study highlights that a small group of hyper
enthusiasts, you know, like people probably watching our
show and us, it fuels most of the game sales with only four

(41:17):
percent buying games monthly. So when they do this test, are
they saying like full price retail games?
Because I could buy like 7 like indie games for $8.
Like I don't know if they're counting it like.
That I don't think they're counting it that.
Way, I think they counted by thehow much $70 are going, yeah.
That's probably and they're they're AAA titles like yeah,

(41:38):
released by the. Call of duties are you selling?
Day one sales. Maddens or Assassin's Creed, but
yeah, yeah, they said despite the decline in game purchases,
consoles are booming when Nintendo Switch 2 sales
significantly outpacing his predecessor.
Yeah, I mean, people are buying.That makes sense because the
games cost the same amount sometimes. 2 is outpacing its

(42:00):
previous fucking wow. Well, yeah, in the beginning,
because people were like iffy about the switch when it first
came out, right? Yo-yo, keep, keep your Switch 2
ready, man. I'm about to give you 335350YO.
Let me get that. It's going to go up in price.
It goes down $25 every time, Yeah.
They said the gaming industry inwhole is largely supported by

(42:21):
hardcore gamers, even though overall game purchases are
decreasing. Listen, the more they raise the
price of these games, the more you're going to see less bought.
Understand that you're not buying two games for 100 bucks
anymore, you're getting one gamewith tax.
An unfinished game too. Yeah, that you got to buy DLC
for. So you got to spend $100?

(42:42):
Dude, I bought, I bought Absalomand Heroes of Mount Dragon and I
didn't even clear 50 bucks right?
That's and the quality I'm getting is insane.
So like, I don't have to go batshit crazy for these, you
know, AAA $8090.00 games that are going to take, I don't even
have time to play anymore. And true, like casual games I
see at work. Yeah, we still have Marvel

(43:03):
Rivals, but that doesn't count as a game or buying a game
model, right? That's, that's the thing, Like I
agree with Cafe, if it wasn't for Marvel Rivals, I could, I
could have bought a whole bunch of other games this year too.
But like, I'm glad I bought Marvel Rivals.
And I, I mean, I bought that. I downloaded Marvel.
Rivals. And, you know, buried a bunch of

(43:24):
time into that. So these studies don't don't
count the time you spent. We spend time now rather than
money. Yeah, because they are.
You know, it's offered like freegame or long 100 hour game, 300
hours. Zelda, like these games, take
all the time away from what you can buy.
There was a steam article also that that they just revealed

(43:46):
that what was it? 65% of people that have the
Steam account that buy games they don't play.
Oh yeah, like 75% of their library.
Yeah absolutely. 75% of the libraries like not played at all
'cause you're gonna be a dollar.Game.
You're gonna buy the dollar game.
But that also adds to the not needing to buy like, you know,

(44:06):
to the sales of like new games. Like if you have a backlog like
that, why the hell would you need to?
Dude, Mad Max was $2.00, yeah, $0.05.
Like I, I wanted to play that and I was like a.
Splinter Cell conviction, they they released it on Steam.
They 'cause it was locked to what was the Ubisoft connect or
whatever. Yeah, they just released that
that the DRM, so it was available on Steam.
I bought it for $2.00. Yeah, hey man, it's like $2.00.

(44:28):
Like these games don't count in the the.
Games are outweighing the time people have, so people have to
make a choice. What's the most important game?
What provides me the most entertainment?
What do I enjoy the most? If it's Marvel Rivals, you're
not spending money unless you'rebuying cosmetics.
So you'll eventually spend moneythough, yeah, if that's your
main game, you're going to, you're going to spend money on
cosmetics, but that doesn't tally up as brand new purchase

(44:49):
of a game, Brand new purchase ofa game.
That's why social media awareness, word of mouth, that's
for these publishers and developers.
That's what they really want youto do because there's too much
out there. Yep, that's so important.
We do it all the time, Yep. But when it comes to Indies,
especially when it comes to Indies, we don't have to boost
up a God of War game or any of that shit.
We have to boost up Absalom and Treats, Rage Four and Oxy Jet,

(45:13):
you know, anything and any indiegame that we enjoy, we want
other people to check it out andand not pay an arm and a leg for
it. And then they find enjoyment out
of it. Awesome.
And they're saving money, too. Retromania.
Retromania wrestling. I mean, how much fun can you get
out of that shit? I mean, that's insane.
Heroes. A mountain dragon.
Just saying. I mean, there's always a wave of

(45:33):
titles that, you know, casual gamers will get into.
And usually, you know, it's cool.
It's cool if you're a part of the wave and you can't
conversate at work about it and like, oh, I've did this part and
this part, like, you know, the main titles that everybody goes
crazy over. Yeah.
But then when you say a title that you're actually like, yo,
what are you playing? I'm like, you don't know what?
You don't know this game, say. That I'm glad that you mentioned

(45:55):
that because I've been having this issue in the past fucking
month all right every time I tell someone that I I you know a
video game challenge is. What do you play right and.
They instantly will bring up a game they play and I don't fuck
with it, you know? Like they.
Say Overwatch, they say Battlefield, I don't rock with
that. And then they're like, oh, what
do you play? And as soon as I drop a Shinobi,
Art of Vengeance or Heroes of Mount Dragon, they look at me

(46:16):
like I have 50 heads. Yeah, yeah.
And it's like, no, there's more the gaming than just the titles,
you know? Trust me, I've been playing this
shit since the fucking NES, the fucking Atari and all that shit.
What, You don't play Turkey? You don't play Madden Fighter 6.
Come on man. Yeah, some titles that do break
the mold, though, like a Silk song, because when it came out,
I was like, yo, no one's going to know about this, but it was

(46:37):
surprising that people who didn't play games was like, yo,
you playing Silk song? I'm like, yo, social media is
incredible because it made thesepeople who only play Call of
Duty talk about Silk Song and. 80 and 80 those people stopped.
They didn't play it past the first week.
No, they stopped. They said fuck that shit.
Guarantee you that it's. Tougher than the first game.
I actually got friends from work, two people at work into

(46:59):
Ninja Gaiden, Rage bound right? And they were like, dude, that
first boss, I was like. Can't even touch it the first
boss. Yep.
It's like welcome, wow, welcome to, yeah, real gaming.
And The funny thing is, don't play the originals, the NES
ones. God, those will break your soul.

(47:19):
This one will make you a video. Game you want to quit.
The one time I saw a game that was exceptionally hard to play
get like ridiculously popular, it was Elden Ring.
Because casual people are playing through Elder ring.
Like they know how to play gamesand it's like this is impossible
Yeah how y'all learning how to do and they.
Were suffering and they were OK with it.
They were OK with the suffering,which is crazy.

(47:40):
Yeah. Even though I don't mess with
Elder Ring, it was actually pretty cool for video game
culture to bring other people in.
It really is the craze. This is the craze.
And they they the main thing about it was they dealt with the
abuse that the game provided, but they didn't quit.
Like, I mean, some people did, but like, there was a lot.
Of people through. That most people did not quit
and that's, that's pretty dope. That's pretty dope, even though

(48:02):
it has nothing to do with the topic.
Well, buying games at the topic,so Even so, the games cost too
much. People are going to buy less of
them because they cost too much.If they were 40 bucks you buy 2
and out of 80 you buy one. The number doesn't add.
Yeah. It goes lower the math a math.
Or, or you go on the Level 857 podcast and we'll tell you which
cheap indie games that are amazing to get.

(48:24):
True. Yep.
Perfect Diamond was only 5 buckson Steam.
Yep. Yeah, majority's games are in
bundles, $8 bundle for 10 games.I'm like, dude, yeah.
And if I want one game. And what do they have the the
the Arkham series on steam for? What is that for?
Like all three of them for three.
Of them 7 bucks through I don't know like.
That's ridiculous. 5:00 to 20 like it's.

(48:46):
About the whole thing, yeah, You'll be chilling for a year
you'll be chilling for. A year, Yeah.
Yeah, for sure. Listen.
And Marvel Rivals is free. All the characters are free,
yeah. You can get some run out of
that. Yeah, you can definitely get run
out of that. And I mean, unless you want to
buy cosmetics, you won't spend adime on that game.
And it's fun. I I got a lot of run on it on
the channel and I didn't spend shit.
Yeah, there's ways to save money.

(49:07):
There's ways to save. Money.
What the hell? These tests, yeah, like I said,
the, the more these games cost, the less you're going to buy.
And you know, kids, it's worse for parents because your kid
might want something and the parents came like, no, it costs
way too much. So they're only going to get
them for their birthday, one game, for Christmas, one game.
I better be a 60. Hour game?

(49:29):
Yeah, that's it. So people are being more picky
about their games is what this is they?
Should. And that's a good thing.
That's a good thing, yeah. You know, because, yeah, these
developers have put so much workinto these games, and it's like
you going right through like. Oh, I just played five games in
a row. Like no, spend more time and and
play through like a like a horizon, spend more time with
something like that and you're going to be like, this is

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fucking incredible. Go through your backlog.
For real, I'm a ghost of Yote. Yeah, same shit.
A casual gamer is not a reviewer, right?
They're not going to play two orthree games a week, but people
act like they can do that. Yeah.
They're like, yo, Nintendo didn't come out with a new game
this month. What's going on with Nintendo?
But you know what the best combination though, Like if
you're going to play like an open world or RPG and you want

(50:12):
to play another game, make sure it's like either a fighting game
or rogue light because because it's nothing that's going to
conflict with you know you in that game, like me playing Jedi
Survivor is perfect with Absalom.
Perfect. Because they just go pick up and
play versus Yeah, he's like openworld perfect.
Perfect. Not like fucking Ayuden
Chronicles and and and, you know.

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Turbo playing nine role players at the same time.
Yeah, that's. Wild man.
Well, he did take him two years,four years ago, and he still
hasn't beaten any of them. It's crazy to me, man.
Shenmue. And it's messed up they released
the fixed version of it. Now it's like, can I trade in
the old one then? Nope.
Nope, got to start over, man. Yeah, Turbo's only like 5

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minutes in, so it doesn't. Include six friends. 6 friends.
Six friends, got to be 6 friendsI'm.
Just afraid, but yeah, that's the news.
We're going to get more into that topic basically with our
main topic, so. Yeah, we in the dark, y'all?
Yeah, that's it. The main topic is we're going to
be roasting. Excellent segue.
Some greedy video game companies.

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You mean all? Of them, not all of them.
Not all of them. Listen, This is why he blacked
out our stream. Yeah, they saw that.
They saw the the title. They said, Nah, man.
They said wait, let this happen.Hashtag shut this down, yeah.
Shit. Tax, yeah.
You never know, dude. You never know.
Be hating on us. Bro listen.

(51:38):
Listen, listen, he's just some starving artists over here.
The. Topic isn't about hate, it's
about these companies being greedy.
That doesn't mean they hate anything.
They love money. They don't love the they don't
love their customers. Listen, this is a different
outlook. They're still putting out
quality stuff. This is still top notch gaming.
They're doing a lot. Well, let me tell you the

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company that's doing it right, Valve.
They do the Steam store, they'redoing it right.
Listen about who's doing it wrong.
No, I'm using them as an examplebecause they're, they're doing
it right. Starting off at a good point.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then we bring it down.
We gotta admire Steam for what they've done, not only with the

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Steam Deck, but like what they've done in gaming as far as
like digital games. Allowing people to actually
bring out stuff that's not $70, yes.
To reach a crowd that can actually buy games?
Exactly. It's a whole different
infrastructure and they've worked on it since what, 2000
when the Steam starts? Like early 20s, twenties, early
20s? 20s, twenties, it was like.

(52:42):
Early 2000. Yeah.
Yeah, but I've had a Steam account for a very long time and
I didn't buy anything for it until I was priced out of
regular console gaming. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And. I realized, hey, I got a
computer that can play all this stuff.
This is a pretty good area to be.
Plus handheld games and all that.
It all came down to 11 library, one library Switch.

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Switch bought that up kind of portable and TV.
I told you about the what was ita Splinter Cell conviction that
I purchased on Steam just recently, right?
I tried running it. Can't do it.
I can't. I can run the game and it runs
fine, but the fucking controllerinputs are completely off.
I looked online, I looked everywhere.

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I just can't get the freaking controller to work and I can
play the game but it's like completely backwards like the
trigger button is like the it's all messed up and I can't get I
couldn't even get through the the tutorial because the buttons
are all messed up. Damn.
Well, yeah. Needless to say.
There's a slight advantage on onconsoles because you don't have
to deal with that most of the time.

(53:44):
So one, one thing that's good isthat on Steam, I had that issue,
right? I wasn't able to play the game.
I've only put what was it? I installed it from playing it.
I think it was like 30 minutes, right?
I'm like, I give up. I can't figure this thing out.
Went to Steam customer support, they had a questionnaire type of
thing You just filled it out yesI'd like my my refund OK, done

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that was it got a freaking e-mail like 10 minutes later off
out of my account. I got my Nintendo would be like
Nah and I'm like wow look at that.
I actually tried you know like it was a legit like I tried to
freaking get the game work and it runs but can't get the
controller working got my money back even though it was $2.00
but still I got my money back enough of this positivity.

(54:29):
So yeah, yeah, no, I'm saying I got to start off like that.
It's too. That's too much of a good story.
That's too nice. So who's doing people wrong the
most right now? Who do you want to start with
out of the three companies that are really doing this right now?
Chuck about say, Chuck, who do you want to start with?
Chuck, I was going to start. Who do you want to?
Start with Chuck, probably Xbox.You want to.

(54:52):
Start with yeah 'cause like first of all.
What are they doing wrong this? Is probably be easier to say
what they are doing wrong. I mean, what aren't they doing
wrong? They got no console exclusives
anymore. They're doubling the price of
Game Pass per month. It's a. 30% increase, but still
it's too much. Whatever.

(55:14):
A lot. Yeah.
It's, it's, it's like, what are we doing here, guys?
What like. What are we doing?
They lost their identity. Make it make sense.
Let me give you a rundown of their system prices because Oh
yeah, that's where we started towhere we.
Are now I remember that from thelast.
Podcast So in 2020 the Xbox Series X512 GB edition was $300.

(55:36):
Nice little price to get people in the door that's.
Solid. That's solid.
That's where you needed to be, right?
Yeah, the Xbox Series S1, TB edition and 2023 that launched
at 350 bucks. So you get these to increase,
you know, increase the. The space 350 still solid but.
For 50 bucks you get, you know, half a TB.

(55:58):
So the Series X digital that came out in 2024 at 4:50.
We're going up, yeah. So without the without the disk
drive 150 miles. Wild.
I think once you get to the fours, it's starting to like,
OK, here we go. But they gave you a choice,
which a lot of people said was amistake from Xbox.
Yeah, that was the physical digital one, right?

(56:20):
Physical, digital plus the little little.
Too confusing. Too many options, man.
And the and the name is awful. Yep, it's fucking terrible.
Yeah, for parents. Yeah, it's confusing.
It is confusing. Confusing because there was
already an X and an S Yes, now it's series.
It's it's so confusing. At least PlayStation 123456
because when you count motherfuckers, you know what the

(56:41):
one to get. Nah, they're like 361.
Wait, what? The regular Series X with the
disk drive in 20/20 was 500 bucks and then the Series X2 TB
version, we'll get into that. Actually, you know, it launched,
it launched that 600 bucks in 2024.
So Jesus, I'm going to skip the 1st, you know, change the price

(57:03):
that they did. They're going to go into what it
is now. So that series, that's what is
it. The one terabyte 1 is now 430
bucks instead of the 300 basically.
So the. It was 350.
My bad. So it was 350, but now it's
4:30. So 1. 100 bucks it went up in

(57:24):
place. Pretty much 100 bucks.
Pretty much. So that's now.
Damn. When you go up 100 bucks, that's
that's when it's like a lot. Of money man also also went up
100 bucks the digital the Xbox series X digital it went from Oh
no no, it went up because they have three they have 3 updates
here. I'm going to the new one now.
So instead of that 450, it is now 600.

(57:44):
Oh fuck you. But a digital.
Wild, but a digital. And how?
How old is that? Well, that came out 2024, but
but yeah, so now the Series X Ohman.
So instead of $500.00 for the Series X with the CD it is now
65650. God damn it, yeah.
And and. Then God damn.

(58:05):
This is before taxes, you know, It's crazy. 50 more, and there's
one more. OK, go ahead.
The Two Terabyte Series X Special Edition, which is $800.
Pretty much a grant, so I got something to add.
Instead of six, $200 more. I got something to add to that.
So you just announced all the what the pricing is now, right?
Yeah. And that's crazy.
And a lot of people would say, especially Turbo would say damn,

(58:28):
that the tariffs are going to freaking.
Oh, he's saying it right now, saying it right now in his head.
But tell me. So if that's the case, tell me
why Steam has the Steam Deck in all their versions or whatever,
still the same price. They never braised the shit at
all. Well, are they in America?
I don't know where they actuallyhave the station for them.
It still doesn't matter. It does.
Microsoft's an American company.No, no, I mean they make it in

(58:49):
China and overseas. Exactly, if they make the stuff
2 seas that's why they get charged the tariffs.
Would think you would think likeyourself would be have an
American. But if anything.
Like Inside the Americas to. Make it make sense.
But when they announced the price increase, tell me why.
Tell me why Steam fucking lowered the price of the they
had like a. Steam sale, they have stacks.
It's crazy though that they lowered the price of their
system. Can't get rid of it.

(59:10):
No, stop that. No, I know, I know, but.
It's crazy though. Yes, it is.
It debunks. Listen, no, no, Tyrus is
definitely a part of why these went up at least $100 each at
least. But not the Steam is located in
Washington. OK.
But most of this stuff is done through them also.
They're not through manufacturers, They're not

(59:31):
through like Best Buys and Targets another that's just from
themtheir.com. So they have a lot more control
in their pricing. But yes, Terrace is definitely A
cause of raising the prices on all these systems.
Don't get that confused. There's definitely like, oh, we
can't. These companies don't actually
want to raise the price after five years.

(59:52):
They don't want to do that. It doesn't make sense.
It doesn't apply for consoles that are already in the states
in warehouses. No, that's why Xbox stacked so
much. But now they ran out again, so
they have to get it again and they they're eating that money.
But that's not a pass for any ofthese companies.
No, because at first there was the shortage in 2020 when they
first came out with the systems,why it was so expensive to do.

(01:00:14):
People were paying $800.00 for Playstations back then and then
everybody kept buying it. Everybody kept spending that
money like, oh, this is disposable income.
We don't have to go to work. We're getting free money, let's
use it to buy the stuff. So perception was regular
customers were ready to spend $800 on a console and we're
selling out regardless. Like if you're if you're Sony is

(01:00:36):
that. Xbox is that including like the
scalpers and shit? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's definitely including them.
So if you're Sony and everybody selling out online from these
scalpers, not even they're just selling stuff to companies,
they're like, they're going to buy it anyway.
On paper, seeing it that they'repaying 800 to $1000 per your
system and it's selling out constantly.
The customers ruined it for everyone because they said, oh

(01:00:58):
damn, they'll, they'll spend it.They'll spend it.
We're we're undercutting our ownstuff.
Artificial inflation, basically.They did it with Nintendo.
They did it. Whatever.
What do you think? What do you think?
Xbox, the next movies do you think?
Do you think there's going to beanother system?
Do you think they're? According to Xbox it is.
Do you think their titles that have been in the works for the
past five years are actually going to come out?
Do you? No.
Do you? Think that's another story.
But do you think they will be onother systems and rather than

(01:01:20):
their system, I think they're going to go all the way of Sega
and they're going to be a third party publisher.
All right, Chuck, what you doing?
Go ahead, Sean. This is a pipe dream.
Oh resident Xbox. I'm not an expert.
You weren't. You weren't for the company.
I'm just a fan, but my, my, my dream would be that they close
their overseas companies, their overseas manufacturers, start
manufacturing it in house in theUnited States and drop the

(01:01:44):
prices. But that's not going to happen.
Well, it won't be cheaper. Another here, it won't be
cheaper and another RIP off overseas.
There's so less to make it over there.
They also ruin their cheaper. They also ruin their reputation
and their identity is completelyshot because the the freaking
increase in the price of game pass.
That was the only thing that they had.
I I just about to say that was the thing that everybody would
say. Oh, this is the best deal.

(01:02:06):
It's the best deal in gaming that was keeping them afloat and
it was and then. That was their focus, yeah.
And also focus, they said. They said forget the systems, we
raise the price out of people's range.
No one's buying the systems was the.
Strategy so and also they, they announced right before they
increased the price that they that Game Pass made them $5
billion. Let me ask you a question.
Wait a minute. So why not ten?

(01:02:27):
Actually, I got AI got. That's a funny question.
When it comes to the Game Awards, you know, they have
those reveals and they're like on Game Pass day one.
Yeah. You think you're gonna hear a
Boo. You're gonna think.
You think? I mean, regardless, it just
depends on how much you're interested in all those games.
If you're interested in all those games enough to Boo them,
you're probably just mad at you aren't going to be able to play
them. But it would still be worth it

(01:02:48):
if you were going to play all those games.
Imagine not on the Game Pass. Yeah, yeah.
Not on Game Pass. They won.
Not it. It just sucks man.
Xbox just recently, well, they're going to release within
the next three days or so, the portable Xbox from masseuse the
Li Xbox. They should just call it Li

(01:03:09):
Xbox, but that makes sense. I know, but the, the, the big
thing about that system was you can stream your Game Pass games
on the go and they sabotage the hell out themselves a week
before it's released. 1000 yeah $1000.
In the room when they decided that, like how bad?
How did that? How did these boardrooms go?

(01:03:30):
How these meetings go? Thing is, they're not gamers,
dude. They're they're freaking
shareholders. They look at numbers.
They're and they make decisions based on numbers.
Exactly. All the people that were willing
to say OK I'll spend 1000 to getthis so I can have that
opportunity to play my Game Passgame since I'm already a member.
So I'll just buy the system whenit comes out.
Why would you tell him a week before?
Horrible that is not worth getting game pass.

(01:03:52):
So now your system sales are going to be broken.
Yep, after doing that, what a sabotage again.
You you fucking up your identity, you're fucking up your
reputation. It does.
Exactly. Especially when it comes to
gaming, like Nintendo and Sony, they're big.
Like they're they're huge. Yeah.
And if you want to, like, make adent in what they're doing,
you're going to have to do stuff.
They're a little bit different and something that makes you
stand out and they're fucking up.

(01:04:13):
The only thing that was it. It's like the it's like the
little initiative. That's basically what it is.
It's it's just fucking up every everyone.
Let's look at the numbers. Let's look at the numbers.
I. Go everywhere.
And then also they, they shut down so many companies, so many
layoffs just from Microsoft alone.
They probably fired more people than any company combined.
So wait, remember when they bought all these companies?

(01:04:35):
So they they're all held. They're all held hostage, aren't
they? A lot of them are closed, like
Bethesda. A lot of them are closed.
Making the titles and supposed. Supposedly they're until those
until those big titles are cancelled officially.
Yeah, stay at the K3. Please, God, just please,
please, God, just give me, just give me that last one because I
know there's none after that. Just give me one last one, you

(01:04:57):
fucking scumbags. Yeah, I think I think the
biggest problem is just it's toomuch money in the in the fucking
games like there's the budgets are insane 300 four 100,000
doesn't have to be that million to make a good game.
It doesn't have to look at you don't need 1000 a team of 33
heads right you could make a quality amazing game.
I. Mean that was more but.

(01:05:17):
These are teams that are like, yeah, you could, you know, these
are teams are like 3000 people making a game for like, it's a
lot of. People they they did skyrocket
themselves too high like OK, it needs to look like this when a
foul pants comes out, it needs to look like this and people
that they they care too much about like what is that rocks
detail like what does this look like here?

(01:05:39):
And there are ways to skip around that using technologies.
Only Jay cares about that. They don't have to go on Jay's
note another. The issue also is the fact that
there's no especially for Microsoft.
Like there's no need for hardware when you can,
especially with Game Pass it's like.
That was their initiative, was everything is the next.
Everything is an Xbox, so that'son your phone on they.

(01:06:01):
Did this everything they did this, this is their plan exactly
that we're going to out price you here.
We're going to say that what youhave, your phone is already an
Xbox. I owe $100 controller whatever
it's already cost half the price.
It's a monopoly, which sucks because what's the competitor?
I'll tell you the biggest fucking let down too, because
when they when they had the presentation, they showed, you
know, little little clip of fable.

(01:06:21):
I said, oh shit, fable's coming back.
That's fucking awesome, right? They showed stay stay decay 3
second second trailer and I was.Like, oh, it's actually real.
And they showed perfect dark. I said.
Oh, I didn't. I do not care about first person
games. I'm like, look at look at them
actually going to their titles. Oh Nope, that shit is that shit
is actually cancelled. I said you guys don't know shit.

(01:06:41):
Yeah, well, the production time in these games is like five
years. You, they were hyping it up.
You're finally going to see the fruits of their labor after
buying all these companies like,oh, this is what they're working
on. Finally.
Finally. And when they're done, it's not
going to take five years to havethat.
Well, I guarantee whatever's done, it's not going to take
five years for that. But it's been 5 to 7.
More. More.
Yeah, more. So the fact that when they do

(01:07:03):
that much work on one of these projects, they just cut it and
then cancel it, they've wasted five years.
That is the whole thing. So the next game you're going to
see, unless they use all the stuff they have in there.
Imagine working on a game for five years and then all of a
sudden they get you're out of a job.
And use nothing. Use nothing from that game.
Yeah, remember the the one of the dudes from who was doing
Wonder Woman? He's like, yeah, well, we had

(01:07:24):
ready to show. He's like, I was proud of it.
I thought it was beautiful. No one else see it.
No, no one will see it. And if you show it, you're going
to get sued till you fuck. It that will be Aquaman, don't
worry. It will be.
They'll change it to Aquaman butwith the nemesis system.
Oh God. What these, what these
stockholds and everything are seeing is the explosion of

(01:07:48):
household gaming. When we had the pandemic, when
you couldn't leave your house. Obviously all these systems,
PlayStation 5, Switch, big time Switch and Xbox, all seen this
big huge upsell. Everything went crazy, right?
And then they look at that number like how do we beat every
year is you got to beat that number.
How do we get that again? How do we get the money that we

(01:08:09):
made for that year? So they're trying to figure out
all these things like yo up the price here, this little bit
here, through this here, $0.10 here.
It means 10 million here. It's like a crackhead mentality.
You're chasing that high that you're never going to get.
Again, and that was a world shutdown, Yeah, Like, why are we
trying to beat the world shutdown?
That's. Not going.
To happen again, it was crazy and move.
On yeah, it was unprecedented. We didn't we didn't see it

(01:08:31):
happening like yeah, it was justone of those moments.
Yeah yeah, better off just coming out with a with
something, you know, prioritizing quality, you know,
and and not trying to RIP off the your your loyal customers
because they will fucking leave.They will not deal with this
shit and they're they're alreadystarting.
They haven't seen that yet. Oh, they're going numbers.
They haven't seen it in their numbers and their numbers it
says they'll buy it. It sucks they'll buy it at the

(01:08:52):
beginning of the end for Xbox. Was the Xbox One the reveal of
that? What was it?
Don Matrix was the head of that.He did not listen to the gamers
at all and all he showed was ATV.
They focus on the TV, all the. Want to think about Xbox?
They say stuff early, way too early.
Bizarre. I mean, the bright kids said at
the same time, like crackheads chasing a high.

(01:09:14):
Yeah, the exact same. That's what the mentality is.
They don't know nothing. About you.
I want more. I want more.
I want more. I see money.
I don't care about the gamers. I don't care about what what you
know the the quality. I don't care about the magic.
I see dollars and I want dollars.
Give me the money and that's. What they do magic, they didn't
do the magic of Nintendo releasing cheaper things for

(01:09:36):
more money. Yeah, so, so they didn't really
do the like I'm going to spend $400 million on this to make
this game. No, they they do it on a low end
spectrum and charge you pretty much now.
They also abandoned their IPS. Man, they abandoned pretty much
every IP they have. They abandoned.
They got 2 left, but they abandoned and I'm waiting for
them and I like those IPS. That's going to happen.

(01:09:58):
Those are gone officially. Which two fable in the state of
K3? Yeah, what F fours are they
have? I mean, they've already yellow
I. Mean no they don't.
Have they put that on PlayStation?
Yes, that's the only way they'regoing to make any money.
That's why I said they're going the way a Sega, if you take, if
you take a look at like 100 podcasts to go and look how
excited Chalk was for Xbox and you look what they done to him.

(01:10:22):
Now that is a crime, man. That was a that's a fan.
Yeah. They destroyed Chalk's spirit.
Even even he used to bleed green.
The problem with Xbox. Even hell divers went to
freaking Xbox. I was like oh with Halo skins
the. Problem with Microsoft is they
could not or don't promote any of these titles that people are

(01:10:44):
going crazy over or want to be good.
They do not promote it. How many first party titles they
were hyped about show trailers went crazy over?
The high 5 rush was. Fun Fable's supposed to be their
Zelda and no one really No one really talks about Fable.
Next big title The day of release, you hear no one.

(01:11:07):
Oh, Blade two, man, I was the biggest one.
I was actually excited for that game and I didn't even know when
the hell it dropped. I was like, oh shit, it's out.
Yep, no I didn't. Say shit.
Listen, I looked at the list of titles that they had, first
party titles, and they actually had a hell of a list.
But a lot of that is like civilization, like these titles
aren't the big names that peoplewill.

(01:11:28):
Even flight simulator. Flight Simulator.
Was there too? Yeah.
But you know, Gears, they hide gears to to, you know, to high
hell whenever they used to have a Gears game.
The Gears remake came out for PS-5.
That's crazy. And and apparently for Xbox.
And for PC. And for PC, you didn't hear a
word about Gears coming out, even though it's sold on

(01:11:50):
PlayStation, because that's new to them.
To remind us of these games. They don't tell you at all.
I found out through PlayStation.I was like, oh shit, Gears I.
Don't know why Microsoft just doesn't.
Yeah, like. Tell because they don't and I
fired up my P. It wasn't that guy went online
either. I was just on my PS-5.
Dude, Halo. Shit, Halo caught mad shots.

(01:12:10):
Like not even the same title anymore.
Yeah, whose fault is that? Microsoft.
Yeah, they bought it out unfinished even though when they
bring out releases and fix it, who even knows?
A year later for the faulty player, what the?
Fuck, don't they have a a next account?
A Twitter account? Put a post up.
New game. Yeah, whoever the publicist,

(01:12:32):
whoever the publicist was they having?
Forza Forza was good it had sometraction Forza 5 Forza Horizon
that had some traction that did sales.
It felt like okay This is why I should have an Xbox right
freaking hi-fi rush came out. That was the only time I saw
like an indie type title get like the hype deserved.
When it came out I said oh they bought this out there that

(01:12:53):
shadow drop it and give it for free on game pass.
Like they had to do everything impossible to get this game
popular. And then they.
Dropped the ball selling a physical copy?
Nah, let's not do. That Yeah, that's right.
I forgot. The funnel support.
Forgot about. That they wanted to support and
it was free. They fumble high fire rush so
bad I. Forgot about.

(01:13:13):
That's tragic. Fire the.
Developer The Secret, the sequelto that game, should be coming
out right now. That studio got shut.
The fuck? That's tragic, man, that.
Made no sense. That's tragic.
Yeah, I mean, yes, you. Do.
Yes, you do. It's all right, chalk, you'll be
all right. They had the games like
grounded, yeah, tried to hype that up yeah.

(01:13:34):
I don't know how successful I was about I mean, people say it
was good, right, But they tried to hype up that loop.
Tried. What were they tried?
There was like 1000 trailers for.
That they tried hard. When the game came out.
Wait death loop. Yeah, definitely.
That came out on that that. Released on PlayStation first,
but it was the first party. Yeah, it was Bethesda.
Now they own it. Yeah, I'm trying man.

(01:13:56):
Craftsman at straws here man. Starfield cheers.
Starfield That was a big drop ball and they tried, they tried
to get the hype ball and it. Wasn't and it's not a bad game,
it's actually good. It's just that they couldn't
maintain whatever they wanted togo with that title.
Yeah. And it just dwindled out.
They still swear by it. It got better, but, you know,

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this disappeared. I don't know why they can't keep
the hype going. What about the Call of Duty
money that the acquisition that was supposed to save?
Well, let me get through that. Like that Minecraft Legends,
which they hyped for kids that should have been like major, you
should have way more about that Doom mail now, right?
They got a little hype. Like it's still we got pushed.

(01:14:38):
That was a day one Game Pass that was actually a good.
Game. That was a game people got hyped
about, but then they had stuff like Ghost Wire and Red Fall.
Like Red Fall was such a big letdown and they really try.
I think they tried to hide this stuff and it got so bad.
They said why even tweet about this stuff?
It's over. Phil Spencer put his foot in his

(01:14:58):
mouth a lot. 2 I still, no matter how good the trailers,
look at everything that was supposed to be like that God of
War I. Heard I heard absolutely nothing
about. I was excited for that game and
then I heard I had nothing. Lost interest.
Have I lost interest? Trailers.
Have I seen reviews for it? Have I seen anyone's?
I haven't. I've seen reviews, I haven't
seen anything seen reviews, but I had to look for it like I had

(01:15:18):
to go out of my way to look for.Reviews.
The most I've heard was it's like the first one.
Would you? Would you hear?
From what I heard, there wasn't a lot of there wasn't a lot of
action in that game. Or wasn't.
I wasn't supposed to play? Yeah.
No, it's not the type of game, Yeah.
I think. If it's if it's like the first
game, the first game it was, it was like an adventure that was
some action, but it's mostly puzzles and like a psychological

(01:15:39):
like. I think mismanaged it and told
people it was got a war and it wasn't but then.
They marketed like got a war, people gotta get fired.
Indiana Jones, they marketed to a certain extent.
It was popular. It was a good game.
Got like nines. And then they pushed it to the
next system as fast as possible.They didn't ride the wave of.
Yeah, when it's on PC, it's on everything now.
Yeah, they didn't ride the wave of This is Xbox.

(01:16:00):
Or any? Amount of time at all.
But yeah, I mean, those are the main titles, FCF thieves and
stuff. They still work with that.
Yeah. This is ages ago though.
This is like Xbox the thing. With Xbox, not to cut you off,
but like the thing about Xbox that has always bothered me,
they never really officially hadan identity that stood out.
You know what I'm saying? Like we had Halo.

(01:16:20):
Well, they know they were trying.
They were trying. I think they were headed in a,
in a, in a good direction with Halo.
But like, you know, Nintendo, Mario, right.
Instantly Mario, Zelda, you in Metroid, you're already, you
already have like a bunch of titles that you think Sony
Astrobots freaking like big Sony.
Yeah. Had Crash Bandicoot early on and
then like they went over to a bunch of other titles, got a war
and started. But they always had like epic

(01:16:42):
movie type games for Sony. But like when you went to Xbox
what makes them stand up? It was Halo.
It was. Gears.
Gears and Fables, you know, theyhad titles that they worked on.
It says this is Xbox but. They gave up on, but then they
said, oh, that's, that's like Nintendo giving up on like the,
the, the secondary, you know, dope titles like Metroid.
All right, the Metroid's no more.
What they had Tom Fancy and stuff like Tom Clancy's.

(01:17:03):
Equivalent to punch out but likea face.
It needed it needed a face. No, actually Halo the the mask
with the green of Xbox made sense.
What? Do you see?
They say that's Doom guy, Yeah. Yeah, that's what it is.
Now it's like they don't have anidentity.
And then now their identity is green with with money.
Yeah, and as opposed to an actual character.

(01:17:24):
And then everyone could see through that shit now.
And it's, it's fucked up and they're not gonna be known
around the Big Three anymore. All right, that's Microsoft.
We'll get back to them. Who went about PlayStation or
Nintendo? We got to go Nintendo, Nintendo.
We got to go, Nintendo. Nintendo.
We got to go. Nintendo.
Nintendo used to be the the nicefamily friendly, affordable,

(01:17:50):
kind characters, you know, the Mario's and everything was just.
I mean switch kind of changed that.
It was, it was a it was a cheaper option.
Switch was like a Hail Mary because they failed so bad with
Wii U that third parties then want to get with them off the
bat. So they were like, you know, but
when Zelda Breath the Wild came out, that changed a lot of
things, you know, and, and and and like, you know, and to

(01:18:13):
follow like they were, you know,slowly people started getting
involved with them and then theyblew up.
Well family friendly. They stopped doing Switch
because they didn't have the $20games anymore, like the the the
specials, like the the best sellers.
They stopped that. There's no special.
Every game was the same price the entire time.
Mario was 60 bucks when it came out or 50 bucks, whatever.

(01:18:36):
And it's been at the end of the time, it was the same price.
They would have like a $10 discount on Mario Day or
whatever, but they stopped that.There you go on the Nintendo.
They never go past 10%. You go in their shop, you see
nothing but triple X Games, so family friendly is out the out
the. No, no, I'm I'm talking about
like off. The like when they came out but.
Yeah, the way they turned. In during the Switch time, Yeah,

(01:18:56):
they are. They're not considered a family
friendly. From people who actually know,
yeah. But people who swear Nintendo
was for little kids they don't know.
There's a parental, There's a parental option that you can
have. Nintendo, the company was always
like this. But you will never see.
That, but not even you didn't see that on the Wii U, but when
the Switch happened and the Switch started getting popular,
cut yourself over there. But you know, they had the

(01:19:20):
Indies and it's like, OK, good, you got the Indies.
You got, you know, your, your, your Zelda, you got your Mario.
But then it started like it. It started turning like X-rated.
It started turning. Like Subway or beyond?
Yeah, yeah. And it started really like, what
is this? Because like there would be,
don't get me wrong. Like we discovered so many dope
titles in that shop, but then it's get it got harder to find

(01:19:42):
the titles in the midst of smut.How many?
How many like driving, parking? Oh God, man.
Yo, the same engine, I mean yours.
Well, you had, you had your, youknow, your simulation games.
You had your RPG simulator. You.
Know you had those, which is whatever but then you had your

(01:20:03):
smart games your your hentai waslike at least six or seven in a
row before I get to the game that I actually want to play so
it's like the quality control inthe store in the shop was pretty
pretty bad I was. Like hentai 17.
And then they had like, you know, they'll have their, you
know, their Mario 35 or their Pac-Man little things, their

(01:20:23):
little gimmicky, you know, F0 games that would come out that
like, oh, you know, get everyonehype up and then they take them
away. I think I had the store too
where they didn't sell you thoseretro games anymore like they
used to and they just supported by, you know, they'll give you
this for the subscription based thing and you don't own them
anymore. I think the worst thing that no

(01:20:43):
options, the worst thing that Nintendo did was the $80 Mario
Kart World game. Well, the price of that that.
Doesn't include, but it doesn't include.
You know what you would say it doesn't include DLC that is
like, for that price, you would think, hey, well, you know what?
That is terrible. That that is not good.
Yeah. Not surcharging for DLC for
that. Yeah.
We had a bunch of issues to start.

(01:21:05):
And yeah, we've been working with the black screen the entire
time, so. It's audio for you.
It's audio only today. Yeah, it's all.
It's all black. Throw up the black fist.
Yeah, man, what the hell? No, but like.
Acknowledgement. Yeah, yeah.
But like, if there there is so many gross, disgusting, money
hungry things that Nintendo has been doing that it's like, dude,

(01:21:28):
man, this is I've been writing. The quality of the games have
always been taught. Yeah.
Worse than not telling you how much it cost doing.
It it's really pricing. The switch to presentation was
the most deceiving. Everyone was hyped.
Sleazy thing I've I've seen themdo in a long time.
They did not say the price at all.
They didn't give the price. This is the first time they ever

(01:21:49):
did a reveal they didn't give the price right?
Mario Kart 80 bucks if you they don't buy it with the system
right they'll you know DLC is not included.
OK, that's pretty shitty too. However, to me to me the worst
thing out of all that was charging people for that fucking
tutorial. What the fuck is wrong?
Was it a switch world or some shit?
What was it called? You're a scumbag.
Yeah, yeah, tutorial for everybody.

(01:22:10):
A tutorial for that that explains the system you're.
Yeah, explains what we're doing.We'll charge you for.
It's like basically, that's likegoing back in the day with NES
when you would buy a video game.You get an instruction manual,
but you have to pay for the instruction manual.
Yes, that's basically what it's doing pretty much.
It's fucking disgusting. That shit is gross.
They could have done, they couldhave given you that it was
digital. It could have been could.
Have given you that it's? Gonna hurt them to to make that

(01:22:32):
free. At the very least they could
have for early for early people that that like the early
adopters. Like alright the people that
pre-ordered here you get this for free, well there goes family
friendly. There goes affordable.
That shit's gone. Yeah, they could have easily
just took that back a step and said at least preorders get.
It to me now they're taking their quality, they're upping
the price of their quality because their quality, I will

(01:22:52):
always say their quality has been good right Quality games
always been top notch yeah, but now they're like no, we're gonna
make more money from our qualityand it's like that's fucked up
because no one can afford it now.
Yeah, the pricing the average gamer out of gaming, they're
turning it into a luxury hobby instead of a a regular one.
That's exactly what. It's almost like it's fucking
golf. Yeah, you know.
What? I mean, yeah, that's exactly

(01:23:13):
what they're doing. The casual gamer cannot afford
to experience Nintendo Stuffed. I don't like, I don't like them
pushing the line. Like, OK, when is this going to
hurt us? Let's just keep on pushing this
up until we see an impact because they're going to buy it
regardless. I mean, the fact that they went
after, what was it, the freakingpower world?

(01:23:35):
Power World? Yeah, they went after Power
world and then they patented thefreaking.
That's gummy. Like what the hell do you do?
Mechanics of actually you're. Patenting a mechanics of a you
know what that's. Something you didn't.
Invent that's crazy bothers me about that.
Among other things is that Nintendo has such a huge
influence on the video game world period that it inspires so

(01:23:56):
many independent developers who do fan games that are
incredible. Yeah, like they do.
I've seen so many fan games thathave like Mario game, then
they're incredible. Why don't?
The media games for. You.
Why don't you? Instead of trying to cancel
these people, why don't you fucking hire them and then pick
their brain to make something good for your company?
No, instead of shutting your shit down because.
They have to spend more money onthat than they would the

(01:24:16):
lawyers. They just sue them.
No, that's what. No they won't.
Hire. Them pick up this, they lawyer
the team of the army, hire them based on the vision.
That vision will make money. It's crazy spend on lawyers
beyond what we could possibly believe.
They're holding the lawyers family's hostage, though.
There's so much time with the system price.
And then it started with the Mario game and then it started

(01:24:37):
with the tutorial. Well, the tutorials, it was part
of the system, but and then he was like, yeah, well, you know
what, let's bring out these 14 year old games.
Oh my God, that's what I forgot that that's the worst.
That's actually the word that might be.
Bro what? Galaxy 2.
Listen, I own the game, I bought2 copies of it, I have one, I
have it digitally, and then I also bought it again, like

(01:24:58):
physically because I love the game.
Derfax Mario or a Galaxy 2 is myfavorite 3D Mario game of all
time, right? Tell me why the fuck they're
charging $40.00 for a freaking like I have.
Alright, it's up. It's up Res.
If it was like it was $25, that's the most I would be like
comfortable spending for that game. 20 should have been easy.

(01:25:22):
20 would have been great easy 20I'd be happy with that right I'd
be like you know what 20 solid 20 solid for what they did to
the game. If 20 is.
If it's exactly the same, it's. Exactly the same dude, they
didn't even change anything. They didn't change the guys.
Now fuck that freak. There's no for real.
There is no change. To they upscaled it, they
upscaled. It yeah, so you I fucking played
side by side. I went back to play the old

(01:25:44):
version and I'm like actually changed.
I'm actually glad you brought that up because it's like, so I
bought this for whatever price it was back in the day, but it
was I don't want a 5060 whateverdollars.
Yeah, you're gonna re release iton a newer system.
Yeah, look exactly the same. You can charge me $56.
Yeah, again, it gets worse. 70 That's why.
It gets worse if you buy them both on the physical copy you
fucking scum bat. They charge you 70 if you get

(01:26:05):
them on the cartridge, you scum bat.
You're and I don't even know if they're both on the cartridge.
I don't even know that they are OK.
At least they did that. Digitally separate evil empire
40 bucks something. Crazy 'cause I bought the 3D
Mario World for the Switch 1. Plus they give you the same game
that's on that. God it was God I wish Sega was
still around. I wish Sega had a console.
It would makes no sense. I would support.

(01:26:25):
I would support the shit out of Sega.
Right now, Why not? Why not them?
Sell my own Galaxy two? Yeah, with the bonus of one
being free. You know what's fucked up and
jitters you? I I said a bad word there.
You said free. They don't do.
That they already released it. They already released it and
then they took it away actually.I just remembered this I I
remember reading this a few daysago I was watching on YouTube

(01:26:48):
some guy was pulling up stats from the Nintendo sales big
Nintendo guy and he pulled up. He's like the the new the recent
bundle that they just released the Galaxy.
Galaxy 1 and 2 is the worst selling Mario game of all time.
Even worse than the 3DS Mario. What was it?

(01:27:11):
Mario 3D? The first The first 3D.
Yeah, even that one on when theyported it that was that held the
title for the worst. I think it was like 100,000
people bought the game like something real low.
I mean, what are their expectations?
And this one is like in the in like the 2 digits.
Sorry, it's not new. What are their expectations?
Actually it's bad. Recu makes a good point in the
chat. Shout out to Recu.

(01:27:32):
I'll go to the podcast. Sorry we have a black screen.
Yeah video games largest demographic isn't its most
dedicated one. They want to monetize the casual
5 hour a week gamer games. Yeah.
Used to be made for gamers. Now they're made for everyone.
Yeah. And the feeling and very true
and feeling some type of way about it makes me some
uninclusive bad guy. Yeah.

(01:27:54):
Yeah. No, I know it's not alone.
I know exactly what he's talkingabout.
It makes perfect sense. They're like, you know, they're
like, let's bank off these people casually play it.
You know, it's like the worst thing that happened to video
games is like kind of them goingmainstream with the, you know,
the award shows and stuff like that and people realizing I can
make money off of this. Oh yeah, rather than back in the
day when you're oh, we are, we're nerds and we like the

(01:28:14):
games and who cares what they'redoing?
I'm. I want those times to come back
because they're gone. Yeah, once those fucking the
suits and the baby Dicks fuckingget involved, they ruin it.
They ruin it for everybody because all they see is.
Well, they know we're going to buy it regardless.
We're the because. We're gamers.
We're going to. Buyers, we're going to buy it.
If it's our title, we're going to buy it.
And then they say, well, if we can get the guy who only buys

(01:28:35):
one or two games a year to pay more, obviously their checkbook
is going to look much better because they're forcing them to
buy it too. So gotcha bitch.
They're not losing that's. What they're thinking exactly?
That's exactly. What they're thinking, we need
to actually not buy those games.No, it's true.
We need to speak without wallets, which no one is doing.
No, except for Game Pass. Well, people say they spoken.

(01:28:57):
People say that they're. Like.
Fuck yeah they spoken, man. They say that we got to see
because they obviously hasn't hurt them.
They didn't change it but like it's just it's cost way too much
now. Because before it depends on how
you look at it. Also because gaming in general,
I can buy stuff for rather cheapand be very happy with my gaming

(01:29:20):
purchases. I don't have to buy.
Like if I buy $170 game for three months and then I buy
nothing but $20.25 dollar, 10 dollar, $2.00 all the other
times while I'm waiting for the next $70 game, I think that
works out pretty decently. But I'm not going to be like
this week I'm buying this $80 game, this week I'm buying this
$70 game, this week I'm buying this $90.00 game.

(01:29:43):
Like I'm not buying games weeklylike that.
And I don't think they even thought that we were going to
do. That I don't think they care,
but also like, I'll give you an example.
Like what was it? The new Assassin's Creed
Shadows? Yeah, right.
That game, $70 new, right? They just had a sale on Steam.
I think it was like $43 on sale.It'll be so sad.

(01:30:05):
I I didn't want to, I almost pulled the trigger, but I'm
like, I can't pay that much. I I've seen that too.
And the reason is because when do I have to exactly?
I don't have time to play, right?
Exactly. So I'm like, you know, it's open
world and they said it's like 60hours.
I'm like, I'm gonna wait till Black Friday, see if there's a
sale. If there isn't that that's what
I'll be getting. If it hits that 20, yeah, then
yeah, I'm, I'm a stash. That $30.

(01:30:27):
I'm a stash. That $30.00 is a buy though.
If it was 30 bucks I about it. Shout out to Swabner.
Yo shout out to Swabner. Shout out to the 19 heads in the
chat right now. Hit that like button.
Show some love to the black screen so we can finally get the
lights on. Because they they, they don't
show up like this when our facesare seen.
Yo, for real man, you're. Like wow faces this?

(01:30:47):
Is an epic epic glitch. I don't know if this podcast is
going to end. It just goes to show us all
about the conversation. Hey, it's all about
conversation. Hell yeah.
It's nice though. I don't have to work that hard.
Oh my God, Might do this every week, Yeah.
Put up some fucking AI puppets. Depends on how many subscribers
we get this week. Hey yo for real I might change

(01:31:07):
the game. Did we break 4000?
I think we got an audio show. Yeah, with AI puppets.
Let's go. But you can count on Capcom and
who we saw to drop down to that $20 and give it to any given
rate. They can do that.
It's. Crazy what we saw if you when
they dropped Prince of Persia, Isaid let's go, that's what.
I was waiting for million of sales like that.

(01:31:28):
Yep, let's go. They said, well, I wonder if it
was a game that was a problem. No, no that.
Game is amazing. The price, yeah, because when
you price it too high, you're gonna even if you're a die hard
gamer, you might not get them. Everyone nowadays has more than
one jobs and if they don't have more than one job, they are
banking on the one game that they could afford.
Exactly. We only got so much money.

(01:31:50):
They act like everyone is rolling in money and everybody's
not Scrooge Mcduck. This ain't happening.
Nobody's swimming through billions in a bank.
And I get it, I get it. They say, how much is your
McDonald's value meal? How much is your lunch?
Like, yeah, honestly, yeah, my lunch was $18.00 the other day.
I'm like, dude, that's why I eatway too much for a burger.
It's crazy, but it's getting up to $20 a lunch, so they're like,

(01:32:11):
yo, so $30 per Game Pass shouldn't be that much for you,
right? Yeah, it is when I got to eat.
Am I getting game pass or am I eating fuck you?
Yeah, you're paying the same price for cooking your food that
you are for buying it. So it's like.
Yeah, doesn't. Where's the money coming?
From that's all there, it's likeLinda watches on Spotify.
Yo, let's go. Exactly.

(01:32:32):
But yeah, I understand why people could say oh skip 2
lunches and you're fine for the month but I'm like.
Fuck. You.
I'm hungry. No bro, people gotta eat.
What I mean in perspective though, yes, honestly everything
is too expensive. I'm not just saying gaming is
too expensive. Everything, everything is too
expensive. But like, I hate the fact that
all these companies, not just Nintendo, not just Xbox, not
just Sony, like most of these companies are really pricing out

(01:32:56):
the average gamer, you know whatI mean?
And it's crazy to me. Everyone is pricing on
everybody. Steam needs to make a console
with Sega. They need to fucking.
Do it, man. It's going to be.
Then it's going to be like. I mean they already have a
console but it's a handheld console, but still they need a
home console to get everybody else.
Nintendo did not release Donkey Kong for $80.00, so maybe they

(01:33:18):
learned some type of lesson but.They won't push.
Wait. Wait until Mario comes out.
Wait until Mario is Zelda. Zelda.
Zelda will be 80 most likely or more.
Let's help. With Mario, this is going to be
120, so they're going to do the same shoe with Mario Watch.
Think they hold him out? They hold Mario out.
Oh my God, they'll still do it. If they did it with Mario Kart,
they'll do it with a Mario. Look, a regular Mario.

(01:33:40):
I hope they realized that they made a mistake with Mario Kart
with that price, but we'll see. Another $10 here now, whatever.
It's like. Still too much they didn't.
Have to do it that price they could have just said hey,
listen. But they want you to buy the
system with it and no distraction.
We're going to charge you for it.
Here's the regular normal $60.00, and we're going to
charge you for the DLC. That's it.
If they were transparent and said that, nobody would be

(01:34:01):
arguing to be like, all right, you know what?
It's actually got to pay for DLC, but at least I'm not paying
80. You know what's funny?
After the last direct I was. This is like my my my whole.
DLC Direct. My whole, my whole, my whole
direct, yes, my whole thought process watching and I was like,
you know, before the final announcement I said, oh shit, I
made, I made it through this entire direct without having to

(01:34:21):
be like, I need to switch to andthen it showed Fire Emblem at
the end I said, I fucking hate everyone.
I hate you and you it work you it works.
They didn't announce the price either.
Fire Emblem Watch the Fortunes weave will probably be $80.
Yeah, I kind of feel like, I kind of feel like it's going to
be 80. 70. That's a flagship title for

(01:34:42):
them, man big. No, it is they got there was no
one. What?
Was Donkey Kong Dunk Kong was what, 7070?
Yeah, probably the most successful strategy JRPG there
is. I think the next most expensive
game we'll see on Nintendo system will be either Mario,
Zelda. Anything Mario, Zelda, Mario
they'll be that's top tier. If it's Kid Icarus Star Fox,

(01:35:03):
that's because 70 Donkey Kong is.
Even though you you played it, you said it was great.
Great. But that's AB list, you know,
character. It's not Mario.
Mario's A list. Zelda's A list.
So their B list price is 70. Yeah, yeah.
Which is still crazy, but you know what I'd be like?
You know what I'm. But you know what?
It will probably be Fire Emblem will be 70.

(01:35:25):
And if there's DLC, they'll charge you.
Oh they're definitely charging for DLC.
We'll find out what Metroid, what they're really going to do
all. Right.
What's your prediction for Metroid?
How much is that could cost? I think 80.
I think 80 also. If there was going to.
Be another first. Listen, it's not their type,
it's not A type franchise with them, but the the amount of time
they waited for it, I think theyexpected to be, but it's not.
It's so it is a B tier list for Nintendo.

(01:35:48):
B Plus. It's not a there, but it's not
a. Not, no, not Mario, not a
system, sorry on Zelda's or they're they're tough.
It's not a system as seen by a Nintendo.
But I want the. I think they're trying to like
create the illusion like it is, so they might charge that 10
extra. I mean, it's going to be running
at 1:20. It's going to be open world,
kind of. It's only worth it if they're
not charging. For DLCI think they'll charge 80

(01:36:08):
bucks for anything over the world that's.
The thing about it, it's like. So we'll see.
Charging for the DL CS and it's nuts.
But if you do realize that Nintendo is making a lot of
mistakes and it doesn't seem like they learn from them, they
just making more money. So they're like, yeah, this is
the right thing. Let me ask you guys a question
before sorry cut you off. If they released their games,
all 80 bucks DLC all free, is that okay?

(01:36:31):
Well, if there's DLCD. LC on all the games that are 80
bucks. Like you don't have to pay
anything for Yeah, anything thathas DLC, you're paying 80 bucks
and you're getting all DLC free.Just pay for that DLC bro.
No, we have to because they're charging.
They're charging 20 to $30.00 for the DLC.
So I'll take the free DLC, an $80 price tag.
It ain't free. Well, it's $10.00, so 10 instead

(01:36:51):
of 20 to 30. I'll take it.
That's true. Plus they can do more.
True. If they have more, they're going
to charge you $30 more is going to keep that price going.
This shit you got to do for a full game.
Full game. It would be fucked up if they if
we messed up if they did that onpurpose.
Like purposely take shit out of the game just to sell his DLC.

(01:37:11):
You want the Mario mask and Donkey Kong?
Imagine. Exactly.
Cafe Fox Prime 4 is 70 bucks, $20 DLC plus tax, $100 game.
Plus, you want that motorcycle painted.
Here goes an Amiibo then you could shove up your ass because
you just spend fucking $100 for Metroid Prime 4. 40 to $50
amiibos is crazy. The days of free DLC is I think

(01:37:35):
it's gone as far as far as Nintendo definitely given no
free DLC. Not anymore.
Just found out what the Internetis.
Yeah, and Nintendo ninjas are inthe ceiling right now.
You gotta calm down with they like.
I don't know, they already turn off the lights man.
Feel like they're like subscriptions and DLC.
They're like, alright, you cut off their fucking video feed,

(01:37:56):
how do we get their audio off? Yeah, yeah.
Well, enough about Nintendo for now.
How about Sony? Sony, Yeah, What is Sony doing?
Because I haven't kept up with their sleazebaggery, but.
I mean. It's not as bad as Xbox and and
no right? Hiking of console prices.
Sony is at the price of the console also.
And I heard rumors of PlayStation 6 already.
Well, it isn't 2027. Systems for Xbox and and

(01:38:17):
PlayStation 2027. For both of them, yeah.
Yeah, that was fast. Yeah.
You think so. Seven years.
But. I think this generation as far
as especially with Sony, like dude, they have so many IPS and
like if you compare PS five to the PS4 generation, yeah, and

(01:38:37):
what was released. It feels like we haven't started
yet. Exactly.
All right. What IPS did they bring out for
like a handful of them, obviously.
Astrobot, right? Yeah.
God of War Ragnarok, right? I mean, they have a lot.
They do have a lot they have about. 5 or 6 How about say help
me out five or six titles I got off the top of my head.
So there's there's no what's theone that that kind?

(01:38:58):
Of the two titles that they haven't done yet, Uncharted.
Uncharted Uncharted and the. Last of Us, obviously they
haven't had replacements for those.
And they had the one that ended.Days gone, right?
Days gone is gone. So yeah.
Is there anything else? There's a lot.
Yes, they have eternal which is there's.
OK that was new to them a lot ofnew titles.

(01:39:20):
They did re release the till till.
What the fuck this scary game until dawn.
They re released that which counted as a Sony title.
But like what's they did a lot of re?
What's Sony's main 5 IPS? They haven't pushed anything to
that level. That's spider man stuff.
But they. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Spider Man, the ghost. OK, that's them too.

(01:39:41):
OK, that's huge. That's huge.
Yes, but they haven't pushed like the new titles that take
the place of the ones that were so popular.
On PlayStation 4 and I think therematch the the like, obviously
there's a great. Game you don't mean that's every
freaking out the the remake. Bringing out the two, yeah.
Of Last of Us. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That that that takes time. You fucks.

(01:40:02):
But I mean, bringing out all those remakes and it's like.
You would think they would bringout the sequel, Yeah, the talent
that they'd. Use yes, exactly.
You know damn well they're like we didn't count on this going
this long. Well, they also aren't stories
about over. They aren't done yet.
They are like good two or three years.
They could possibly push one of those titles again just so they
could push and put it. Three would be, 3 would be it, 3
would be. They push, they'll push 3 for

(01:40:24):
PS6 at the end of PS-5 lifetime well also and then remake them
all again. Another a remaster and then a
remake. Go fuck.
Another thing that Sony is done.They invested too heavily and
it's super greedy. They they invested too heavily
on the live service games. Obviously Concorde was a
freaking big we gotta get rid ofthat.
Live service has to go away. Like that's gotta.

(01:40:45):
Go the hard lesson. They bank too heavily.
How many freaking live? Remember when they had?
The they had. The like 2 two Game awards?
Well. Yeah, like that they tried to
push. Like almost every Comer it was
like. And they still haven't given up.
No, because if you get one successful when you get all
that. Money, it's great like give up
man, because they're putting toomuch money in this.
It's to be honest, it's not goodfor gaming and it's not good for

(01:41:07):
your company. Don't think they wasting a good
four, three to four years tryingto make those titles.
It's crazy. Like they said The Last of Us
one, they were going to do it and they said realize it was
going to. Take that time that supposed to
be live service. There was a live service game
that they were working on with that.
Like, supposed to be, yeah. Oh God.
But they said if they came out with that, it would all the
people who made the game would have to be stuck with that game
in the next 10 years and. It's so funny, though, that the

(01:41:29):
one live service game that makessense for Sony to freaking do
Twisted Metal. Yeah, they freaking acts that
shit. I'm like, come on, man, that
makes sense. That actually makes sense.
I and. I know there's a show.
That's like perfect timing to have it.
I'm done with live service. It's not.
It's, it's not, it's not sustainable.
It's not. Work it depends on depends on
Marvels Avengers. Well, Marvel work.

(01:41:49):
Marvel Rivals. Multiverse Avengers.
Multiverse Marvel rivals is a successful when there are
outliers there are there are trying to say that there.
There's a lottery, you don't know what's going to.
Hell, Divers too is a success for Sony.
Actually, Rivals was pretty mucha that was a done deal.
You knew that was going to make money, right?
So it depends on your license. It depends on if it's going to
work out. But come on, a comic license

(01:42:11):
like that, yeah, is going to work.
But I think they look at like the initial push of like what's
released, like for example, Marvel Rivals, right?
That fucking crate, you know, crazy amount of people playing
that game. Yeah, there was an article that
we didn't cover today. I mean, didn't really care to,
but like it the a lot of playersdropped off, like a shit load of
people dropped off. And now it's like maybe 85,000,
which is still a lot of people playing it. 85% of the Steam

(01:42:34):
Yeah players. But it but it's like also when
you come out with a game like that, the people who are just
hyped up because of the characters and stuff like that,
they're not really playing it because they want to get good at
it. They just like want to play as
the characters because it looks great.
They're going to fall off after a couple of months, but the
people who like to play that style will stick around.
The real ones will stick around.But that's very hard to kind of
it's tough. That's a tough thing to figure

(01:42:55):
out. I mean, the only way to keep it
going is to just keep releasing content, which they're doing.
They're releasing characters, but you become a slick slave,
though. It's that's how the game is.
Yeah, that's how it is. That's a horrible.
It's only as good as what they're like releasing and shit
and what people are playing. What that thing is saying is
that 80% of the time people had to play Rivals has been spread
across Call of Duty and Battlefield now.

(01:43:18):
Yeah, because you don't make more time.
You have to get rid of somethingto play those other games.
And as time goes on, they're going to move on to the next
online thing. It's tough to keep attention,
man. So when they come out with
something that's going to get them back, it's all time.
Do you have to wait? Like 10 years ago the live
service games. Like can you fucking name one
that's like like what? Well, you have which one you

(01:43:41):
told me 10 years ago. That's like Fortnite's like.
Fortnite's the only one of the. Fortnite is his own thing.
It's still going, but yeah, you have Roblox.
Roblox. Still killing it.
Minecraft. I mean, he's called Minecraft.
That. It's not though.
But you think so? Do we?
Is Rocket League still a thing? Rocket League still a thing?
It's still a thing. People still play it.
They have that new site, SeafoodSoccer Game.
It's going pretty good, but yeah, I mean a lot of them are

(01:44:03):
falling off. Same with open world games.
It's only so much time I think. Die Hards.
I think the worst part about these games, if they play really
well and really enjoy them, they're eventually going to die
and. They're gone, I mean.
Like they that you can't keep them, they're gone.
Yeah, like some people grow up with it and that's all that's.
And then that's it. And that's it.
That's what they do for games and.
Then when the service shuts down, there is no more.

(01:44:25):
There's no often. That's it.
Well, if it's popular enough, they'll make.
Someone will make it. Someone will make a thing that
you can join the classic versionof it.
If that's shout out to multi verses, it's still working hard.
Yep, I'm still in that discord. Let's but that that goes, you
know, game preservation. That goes to that conversation.
Also. It's like art preservation, game
preservation. Companies don't care.

(01:44:47):
They don't give a shit. It's not.
It's all they don't care about. It it's all money.
Sony just released the new version of the PlayStation Slim
basically, and they cut they cutthe same price, but they cut the
amount of storage. Internally.
So you're paying the same price for less.
But I know why they did it. People don't really bring it up,

(01:45:09):
but because of the tariffs increasing the price that 100
bucks, they did something to thesystem to cut that price out.
So you don't feel like you're paying more for the system,
which you shouldn't be doing after all this time, but you are
getting less for the same price.So they had to do something
different rather than put up another 100 or 50 bucks.
So I get it, I get it. Or when the when the tariffs or

(01:45:30):
whatever and that ceases to exist for the time being.
That system should be way cheaper down.
Yeah, it's. Like drop the price.
It's no matter what you do. I mean with all these companies
right now, This is why I'm so I fucking love the Indies man.
This is why like it's everythingis just all over the place.
Everything costs so much money. It's like man, just find
something that you enjoy. Stick to that till this blows

(01:45:53):
over. Hopefully it blows.
Over. Man, I mean, you might have to
wait like a couple years, but I mean, you know, eventually
hopefully we could. I mean, if this does blow over,
I just hope these companies don't say, you know what they
we've been charging this much the whole time, we might as well
just stick. To it.
Oh, they will and they will. They will.
Here's the thing. The first two years of this
generation I think should not qualify for the time that they

(01:46:16):
were out. I think that would settle
everything. So if you count OK, that two
years that they were developing this such and such a game, how
come it's not out yet? Take that two years out.
So instead of five years, we gotthree years and the sales like
those, everyone's saying that the new systems come out in
2027, add 2 years, cut the firstcount, 20, count the pandemic

(01:46:38):
time out. Yeah, and then go by that.
That's the timeline we should beworking on 27 all these new
systems. Yeah, having all these new
systems come out old, I'm not interested in buying anything
new within by 2027. Well, think of how long it took
for the last generation. Nine years.
So it's like. 30 to 9 years usually, yeah, but you'll hear
about the systems, obviously, you'll hear about them right

(01:46:58):
away. We're only five years in.
It's like, relax. Guys, but in order for them,
what did they what did they actually put out this like for
this generation to solidify themas being yes, this is a
significant thing rather than bringing a new system to bring
out all those games with where the games.
The the the exactly that when they announced.
Remember last year when they announced the Pro?

(01:47:20):
It's like, who cared? Nobody cared about that.
Is there anything to play? We want we want the games.
There's a couple. Is there anything and stuff but
but? Still, though, it's it wasn't
worth it's. Not night and day.
Yeah, it's not night and day and.
Why you gotta do a pro and then come out with another one in two
years? I gotta understand.
If you're gonna do stuff like that, just just let us buy the
part. It should be why at that point

(01:47:43):
it's APC. If you're doing every two years,
if you're doing every two years,let me buy a new graphics card,
do something like that. Yeah, that's not a new system.
You know, what if Steam, if Steam was to make a a console
that that would like, they triedin the past, they tried the
Steam Machine and it failed. Well, I understand the problem
with it is everything's not the same anymore, right?
Like, if you're making this game, how do I know you don't
have the best one? How do I know you have the
lowest? But you got to run it at the

(01:48:04):
lowest common denominator, whichkind of sucks because that's why
people were mad at Xbox for bringing out the X the the
Series X, yeah, the Series S. Oh, the Series S Yeah, because
you. Got to make it low.
Sony's got to bring Nathan Drakeout of retirement.
A lot of people are. Tired, they hear rumors that
they are making a charter. Who knows if it's with Nathan
Drake, but you know how to be. His brother they got.

(01:48:25):
Tom Holland's. Daughter Chloe's can be any
character again. Anybody from that friend,
anybody to bring that? Because the thing about Sony,
they have so many open world games.
Spider Man's open world goes to your tires.
Open world. Fucking Astro parts like
platform, not open world. It's one of the only ones that
isn't. But everything is open world.
They've got was open world, horizon's open world, horizon's

(01:48:46):
open world, everything's open world.
Do something different. Everything's open world sequels
of all those games. Yeah, time has passed.
Yeah. We have to see some like we have
to. Kind of war, open world.
At the end of game they're talking about maybe let's see
something. I don't know.
We gotta see a lot of stuff. Can we get a 2D platform?
They focus too heavily. No, they don't.
They don't do that sooner. Can we get something else?

(01:49:06):
Knack 3. Knack 3.
Open world all the time. Listen.
You're about to get a lot of Microsoft games, don't worry A.
Lot of. Microsoft Games.
Yeah, it's. So listen, I got one more thing
to say about this whole thing. I have a whole little rundown
here what I think they're tryingto do.
Rob us, give me your money. The whole outline thing of what

(01:49:28):
this is, I believe these companies are pricing out most
of us to force us into a subscription based only system.
And they're doing it by making us pissed off about buying
digital and physical. Yeah, and they're going to make
it so that everybody has to pay a price a month to get any game,
all games. And it's slowly they're forcing

(01:49:48):
it to be that way. And you won't own anything,
that's why even Nintendo. That's why, yes, really, yes.
That's why overall that's going to go digital games.
Well, that's how they're not putting games on disc anymore.
They made the thing not worth putting on a game disc.
Yeah, that's true. So and plus they've already got
subscription base for single Nintendo, the older Nintendo
Digital. Even the damn instruction
booklets in the like a website that you have to go in.

(01:50:11):
Yep, it's like it's. It's so digital.
It's their own coats. It's all digital, man.
But then you'll deal with no systems cloud based.
Obviously this is in the future,but cloud based?
Everything's running off a server.
Maybe there's a new? Every TV can control it.
You don't bring out these systems anymore.
That's why Xbox saying they're bringing a new system.
It's hard to believe. Or maybe it's like, yeah, the

(01:50:31):
next five years after that we'llwork on.
It's crazy because the stadia failed and the freaking the Luna
or whatever the. Stadium Luna's still going, but
stadia was almost there. It was this close.
Stadium was this close. The technology wasn't there yet,
I know, but it was that close. But like all the companies
coming back out, I would have thought.
I would have thought Game Pass would.
Have been over Xbox always does things at least five years too

(01:50:55):
early from what we've seen. From what they've seen, it
always ends up being, remember they said we want a digital
only, only, well, only online system.
Yeah, but it's too early. But well, you remember what?
Everything is now. Remember what Sega said?
They said they have something toannounce in 2027 that's gonna
revolutionize games forever. And they have something huge,
huge planned and that could involve digital only.

(01:51:18):
Maybe it could just be what you're talking about, if it's a
storefront or something like that, or a service. 2.0.
To be honest, it's yeah. If it's a Sega store, it could
be. Sega Channel.
Two, I wouldn't be surprised, man.
I wouldn't be surprised. It's the last processing.
No, remember they're supposed tohave the Super game.
The what? The Sega Super game they talked
about like 4 years ago. Bad rumors.

(01:51:40):
Super game? Super game?
What the Hell's a super game? Bigger than you could ever
imagine. Yeah.
Shining. Force Three.
That's a super game. It was a game.
I didn't think it freaking. That was like from, from like
Brazil or some shit like that, right?
A super. Game.
Yeah, look it up. A service or a?
Game. It was a system, super game, a
system, but it was from like Brazil or something.

(01:52:01):
Was just an idea. A fake.
A fake ass. Same real though but nobody
knows. But yeah, I think that they are
pushing everybody to a subscription based only
platform, which we will all disagree.
I see it first thing that poppedup.
Sega Super Game refers to Sega'sinitiative to create large scale
long term live service games. Not a single product.

(01:52:21):
The 1st Super game with a budgetreportedly over 800 million, is
planned for release by March 2026 and may include titles
reviving old franchises like Crazy Taxi or Jet Set Radio.
The project aims to compete withother Mega Hit live service
games and may incorporate user generated content.

(01:52:44):
Well, we haven't heard about what those games actually were
when they announced them, but I don't think that's exactly where
they're headed with that. But who knows that they all
won't integrate into their own Sonic cartridge?
I don't like what any. Of this I don't know man any of.
This I. Don't sound good at all.
I don't like any of this. I don't like this podcast.
I got it, I got it, I got it. What if it's a new you got a

(01:53:07):
Sega tower for Genesis. They stack everything on top.
No. What if it's a game that 30?
2X on top of a fucking genesis game on top of this game to a
fucking robot. You need 5 outlets and the
fucking. Shit robot and AI Sega robot.
That's all your games combined that equals.
Come get the Sega Super. Game.
That's the game. That's the advertisement. the

(01:53:28):
Super game. Go fuck yourself. the Super now
Sega betrayed me too. Great.
Oh God, man. Only Microsoft titles.
Can't beat them, join them. Oh my God, I don't like what
entities motherfuckers are doing.
That's bad man. It's greedy, it's greedy, it's
greedy. I wish they weren't.

(01:53:49):
Yeah, instead of unfortunately, instead of having all digital,
which people think that's the next step, I think it's all
subscription and it sucks. And then these companies got to
do with Netflix and all these Disney and Hulu, they're going.
To oh, once that happens, they're.
Going to break it off into the Konami thing, the Capcom thing,
the Sega thing, the Microsoft thing, and it's going to be $30
each for all. Of them and they're all and it's

(01:54:09):
going to and it's going to cost more than it does now and that's
and I think Steam is going to bethe only company that's going to
actually sell games like digital.
Maybe. Maybe.
They'll probably be the only ones in town, and then that's
when I finally go to Steam. Yeah.
That's when I finally. Finally I got no, I got no, We
got all the Indies, we got everything, man.

(01:54:30):
No, the Bible says like yes. Who said it?
No, it's. The.
Line the next Microsoft system that they haven't talked and
plans seems to be APC anyway. Whether it's going to be $100
PC, $1000 PC, whatever. It's going to be a gaming PC and
body alone. So why not just go the PC route

(01:54:52):
anyway? Microsoft already owns Windows.
Where you can upgrade it too, That would be interesting.
I don't know what upgrading it would.
Be like proprietary upgrading. Yeah, but I'm saying the thing
about upgrading is they can't optimize, right?
That's why PCs are so iffy. If you've got a great PC, you
don't have any problems. You've got a crappy PC.
You have problems. Unless the architecture is made
so it's plug and play where theycan, they'll be able to sell the

(01:55:13):
most. Common denominator, that's what
that's what Sony's doing right. Lowest common denominator so
they can work with a handheld, supposedly, but a next release
we'll see. Man, this is like I said, I just
don't want it to be in 2027. I don't, I don't.
It's. Not looking good man sucks.
This is not looking good, no. Pricing out the common gamer.
Yeah. So yeah, yeah, we got to end it

(01:55:38):
on the sad note. So.
And yeah, so let's talk about the streaming schedule we got.
Oh yeah. You guys are looking at the
screen. Yeah, yeah.
You're not you. Can't see our streaming?
Schedule, you're not going to see it, so we got to tell you
about. It every Sunday.
Every Sunday is Let's Play Sunday.
Usually the first game starts around 3:30 PM Eastern Standard

(01:55:58):
Time and the second game starts around 6:00 PM Eastern Standard
Time. We usually play versus games or
Co-op games, but you got to tuneinto our social media to find
out what we're going to play. If we play anything at all,
yeah, yeah. If you see nothing, then we
ain't streaming. Yeah, pretty much.
Follow us, man. And of course, every Friday is
Friday or Fridays, 9:00 PM Eastern Standard Time.
Every Friday I play fighting games.
I play beat them up. Sometimes I beat people up,

(01:56:19):
sometimes I get beat up. I'm supposed to be playing
Resident Evil 2. How you gonna make?
Now you gotta play another hard.Come on man, change it.
Up yeah y'all do that shit then on.
PT Man we got 3 copies of it here.
I think, I think Street Fighter and Tekken are releasing
characters this weekend. Yeah, it's not Halloween.

(01:56:40):
It's not Halloween, man. That's Halloween costume I think
they have. They have it always that Part 5.
Why are you helping them? I don't know.
Halloween costumes in part 5 I think before.
Yeah, yeah, they yeah. Halloween costumes were in Part
5, but see Viper. I think.
Oh, Viper is out. Oh, Viper dropped.
Yes. Oh.
OK. All right.

(01:57:00):
So we'll see what we do. You might have a fighting
fighters Thursday. Yeah, wow.
Friday Friday's been a horror games.
Yeah, horror. Friday, man, Friday.
Maybe. Maybe Saturday morning.
I don't know. Yeah, maybe I'll see.
We'll see anyways. And of course, you're watching
it, right? You're watching it.
You're listening to it right now.
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(01:57:24):
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(01:58:08):
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