Multiversus Saved? Behind the Scenes of MVS Infinite w/ Director Hakio!

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The 23rd Stallion. Styx.
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And a special guest we're havingon a podcast tonight is a lead
game director of a fan project which promises to be the
spiritual successor of a historic and immensely popular
platform fighter which has unfortunately had its life cut

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short. Not due to a lack of quality, as
its solid gameplay mechanics andcolorful, robust roster has
earned itself comparisons among the biggest and brightest stars
among the platform fighting gamegenre.
Rather, we believe that what most likely caused this game's
demise was probably the profit pressures and constant

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challenges demanded by gaming's now infamous free to play model.
However, our guest here tonight will hopefully shed some light
proving that, at least in this particular game's case, it
doesn't have to die in silence. So please put your hands

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together and give a warm round of applause for a game director
of fan project Multiverses Infinite.
Oh shit. You had a stroke, man.
Wow. Welcome to the show, Sir.

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Yeah. Thank you, glad to be here.
And look at the chat, everyone in the chat, you could just
tell. People love multiverses, man.
You could just tell by everybodyand chat.
Welcome everybody to the level 857.
There's a lot of love for this game.
Oh yeah, absolutely. Yes, yes, yes, indeed.
Yes, indeed. Oh, I believe there was a super

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chat we have to mention because that was very, very nice.
That was no hey Pan. No IPAN no.
IPAN 150. Thank you very.
Much. Thank you.
Thank. You so much that's that's very
generous. We appreciate that.
Wow, that's huge. NHL Wow, it's.
Keeping the lights on. That's right.
Oh yeah man, Now if I could justshow my credit card bill that

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needs not. I, I, I think, yeah, I, I think
we can afford eggs now. We can afford.
Goodbye eggs. It's crazy.
But but of course, you know, everyone wants to hear the
questions. What do we have to ask and all
that good stuff? I will start with the first
question for Hakio. Where when did this project
start and what is the overall goal for Multiverses Infinite?

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So the start of this project waspretty much, I want to say like
literally a day or two after theannouncement of the closure of
people kind of being like, Dang.And then there was one specific
person I, Raj, she decided to like, just do a simple post and
see if any people were interested in the project.

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And I hit her up and I was like,hey, I'd be down to help on the
development side. And as things got going, I ended
up taking over the project aftershe left, and it was kind of
just fans of the project doing it for the love they have for
the project, bringing it back and keeping it going.
Wow that's dope. Why did she leave?
Why did she have to? Go personal reasons.

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Oh, OK, OK. What were they?
No plan. I'm sorry, talk yourself my man,
said personal reasons AKA none of your business is.
It a hard hitting questions. We got to go.
No, man, not game development. It's it's a time consuming
thing. You know, I I was involved with
it in a little bit in the past with what was it, Dragon Force

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2, just on the translation side of it.
So that took a lot of my time years ago.
So I can't even imagine what something like this would, you
know, would take up. It's it's got to be insane.
It's got to be insane. Absolutely.
Question. Next question.
Oh, yeah. Hakio.
Yeah. It's it's a sad thing.

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I want to say it's a sad thing for Multiverses to be taken
offline. You know, as as great as the
game is, what is give us some reasons why we should be really
excited for your project. What could Multiverses fans
hope? What you call it?
What what could they expect out of this?
As far as roster, are you, you know, keeping the same roster

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that you know, the last roster of all the release characters so
far before the game was cut off?As far as stages, same stages?
Are any characters getting reworked in any way?
Are you going to come back? What kind of new characters are
you thinking of added? What kind of excitement do you?
One of the biggest things to getlike hyped about and excited
about for NBS Infinite is definitely that it's a game made

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by fans, for the fans, decided by the fans.
So everybody on the project is working for their love of the
project. They're put in in time, effort,
dedicated, so much free time. I'm so thankful for it.
And then a lot of our decisions are community based and it's off
of things that we've seen the community once.

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For example, very early into development, we just posted a
forum on Twitter, think around 500 different responses of
people's most requested characters and we use that to
decide what we're going to implement things like that.
On the balance side, we're goingfor a mix between casual and
competitive. So it is fun moves that flow

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together competitively and it's just trying to build the best
game possible. And due to not being backed by a
mega company or something like that, we can make decisions that
we believe everybody will love versus decisions that will lead
to profit. Nice, nice.
Because I was, I was wondering how is all?
How are all these voice actors on board?

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Like how is everyone getting paid?
I was like, it's a fan project, how's that possible?
They are all of the voice actorsare working, are dedicating
their voice, donating their timejust out of the kindness and
like the love for the game and the love for their craft.
Awesome. Could you believe that exists
nowadays? Kindness.
Actual kindness and love, yeah. For your craft.

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For the craft I've this is. This is quite the thing.
This is wild. Yeah, man, all about that
positivity. Very cool.
Very, very, very cool. Yeah, chat, let us know how you
how the volume is, if I can heareverything just fine.
We're trying to adjust as. We get I made the adjustment, I
raised heckos volume, so should be good, should be good.
Now thumbs up. If the volume is good, guys, let

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us know. Thank you, mass produce,
appreciate that. Appreciate it.
Next question, do you guys have 'cause I can go?
Go for it. Go for.
It Yeah man OK so is this project going to start off where
the original last left from season 5?
So you guys going to season 6 with are you going to do the
same format like 2 characters per season?

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Are you guys going to randomly release characters or what's the
road map look like if you guys have one?
So the road map is continuing from season 5, but we're going
to probably call it something a lot of lines of NBSI season 1 or
something like that. Maybe name it.
We are taking what they did withthe game.
So example, towards the end of NBS, there's been some recent

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additions like Shields techie that have been kind of iffy and
not fully put together. So first our main goal for the
project was to take what they have and Polish it do are
improving things like movement, how gameplay works overall and
fixing up like some of their more My New Balance things.

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And then from there we want to go on a model trying to release
at least 2 new characters a season, looking at like 4 months
a season and keeping it going and that way.
Nice, OK, sweet, sweet Turbo. If you don't have one, you know
I got a bunch. Let me say one right quick,
how's online going to work? I one thing one great that I had

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with multiverses is how it resetthe the ranking points every
single season. So, you know, I think I fight
pretty well, you know, platinum worthy, but I'm always starting
from freaking bronze and I'm like, I don't have the time to
work myself back up, you know, so it's like.
He's like, I got a kid, I got a wife I can't be starting from.

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Bronze all the time. Exactly.
You know, I'm going to have a second kid also probably in
August. So I'm just like, I don't have
all this time to just get myselfout.
You know. It's like, do you plan to reset
the ranking time? How do you guys plan to handle
that? So when it comes to online
matchmaking, instead of going for an alt or something like
Karsak, we wanted to implement our own servers.

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But dedicated service can be really pricey.
So the alternative we found withITS, which is the low budget
equivalent, is we have dedicatedservers for matchmaking.
So you'll queue up and it'll putyou on a server and it'll find
you a match and then it'll put you into a peer-to-peer match.
That's something like that. Smash Bros uses this.
We were able that way, we were able to like save costs and keep
the servers going for a lot longer than if we were to go

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dedicated servers and off of therank system.
And on all of that, of those more minor details, we're still
figuring out how we want to go about it and we'll definitely
use once it comes out, once the rank system is out, use the data
that we get from it to adjust and try to find the right
balance for both the casual people, but also not trying to
over inflate the rings and let people feel like they've earned

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their placement. Excellent.
Cool. Will you guys sorry, will you
guys be using the the pre shutdown version of the game or
the post shutdown? We are using the most recent
update. Because I know they're going to
change it once they shut everything down.
So I don't know what they will, what they're going to cut off

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and stuff like that. So you want everybody to not
update to that or try to keep this stuff offline until they
get to your version? No, it doesn't matter if you
update or not the changes that we implement, you'll still be
able to use. Oh.
Cool, cool. Wow.
All right. That's good.
Very cool. I'm impressed that you guys like
started so soon after multi verses announced that was

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shutting down two days after. I'm like what?
Multi versus fans are a different breach.
They. Sure are.
Has Tony Wynn reached out to youanyway, gave you his blessing or
anything like that? Or you know, give a comment on
the project. I don't know if I'm able to
comment on that. OK.
Yeah, that's good. I just wanted to I just want to
see how you react to I wasn't look for an answer, but I think
I got my answer. I like how you have your own

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conversation with yourself. You didn't give an answer.
OK. I can assume you got my question
was that was good. No, no, no.
I like the answer. Again, keep the project on a
low, yeah. You don't want to get anybody in
trouble. No, he he answered the right
way. That was good, that.
Was good. I have a question I mean, I
mean, obviously answer whatever you can of this question, but
obviously people know from from everyone who's followed

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multiverses knows about the datamine leak with all the
characters that they've shown and and you know and the
characters that we didn't get. So I was wondering from that,
that famous big leak that everyone showed, everyone knows
about what can we expect in terms of those characters that
were shown as a possibility? And, and when I say characters,

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you know, there was rumors of of, you know, the obvious Lord
of the Rings characters. They had, you know, Mortal
Kombat characters. They had, you know, Robin, they
had a bunch of other guys on there that people have been
dying to, to see in the game cuzthey were in the data mine or at
least mentioned. Now what can you tell us about

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that data mine? Are you guys working on anyone
from that big list or is there anyone that you guys are working
on that weren't even mentioned? We definitely have some
characters in development, whether they are from the data
mine or not. I will leave that part out that
being said. The most recent data.

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The most recent data mine that did give us a lot of assets in
the files because most of those data mines are as simple as like
one or two lines of code, which is means we get more of the idea
versus what they were actually doing.
But in the recent there was somethere, the character that I'll
give an example of is there was a bunch of resources for Wicked
Witch, yes. And that like having things like

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that obviously will alter your trajectory and be like, should I
use it? Should I not things along those
lines. But we definitely have
characters in development, whether they were a part of
those data mines or not, I will leave out.
OK. Will you be able to change
LeBron into Michael Jordan? He couldn't do that if he tried.

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Come on now. He couldn't do that if he tried.
Oh, wow. Come on man.
Will you give LeBron a new move called the Flop?
I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding, guys. I'm just kidding.
LeBron stands. Don't come after me.
Don't come to me. I'm joking.
I'm. Joking.
I can't deal. I can't deal.
I got 1. How much wiggle room do you guys

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actually have in bouncing the characters and editing the moves
and outfits and stuff like that?So as we're moving into the
balancing of the characters, there are multiple variables on
every single move and every single hit of each move that
we're able to alter. So an example I'll give is
Wonder Woman. SER has a set number of

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variables we can change, but we can change them once because
it's a move that hits you once. Finn Down Tilt has two different
hits, and we can change those variables for the first hit and
the second hit. So there's a bunch of room and a
bunch of adjustments that can bemade off of what is already
inside of the code. Oh, I'm going to piggyback off
of that with a question because I have a feeling you mentioned

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that just so I can get into my question.
One of the main things. All right, it's notorious when
multiverses came out again, I was there was something that
upset me beyond belief and and I'm a Superman Maine.
OK. And when they they nerfed his
throw to where he can only do itleft and right and not up and

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down, I was so broken hearted. So broken hearted because that
was like the main thing I used to do in the the two V twos.
It's the funnest thing in the world just to throw someone to
heaven or throw them to hell. It's the funnest thing to do.
And it was take and it was takenaway from me.
Now there's is there any hope ofthis move slightly returning

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back to Superman? Hakio tell him no.
You must shut the. Hell.
You got yo dude, you just got toget good at the game, no?
No, listen, I can't get good at the game.
I just want to know. I just want to know.
So when it comes to balancing, as stated earlier, we want to
keep it fun and competitive. So if there is a world where we
could implement that in a way where it is competitively

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balanced and fun for the averageplayer, it is a possibility.
I I, I like that. But hey, I, I know a lot of
people don't like that tank, butFinn, Yo, you're probably a Finn
Maine if you don't like that. Yeah.
You know, The funny thing about Moldy verses is it's like
there's some moves that people dread with certain characters

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and those people dread other moves with other characters.
So it's always a back and forth.It's hilarious.
It's very hilarious. There's always something in.
It yeah, it's always, it's always going to be something
that needs to be nerfed with therock, paper, scissors.
Yeah, that's what it is. Terrible you got. 1 I do but do
another one before I ask. This one OK, why is this a big

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one? No, it's technical.
OK. Oh, it's technical.
OK. Are they going to be?
I know that a lot of people complained about the the riffs
being kind of like a little lifeless and kind of bland.
Is there going to be any new game modes for the game or
additions to the riffs as well? We plan to eventually implement

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some type of story mode, whetherthat's on top of riffs or our
own thing is to be determined. But when it comes to game modes
right now we wanted to focus on just getting the game back up
and running with improved gameplay.
It is a huge possibility in the future and something you're deaf
interested in, but is not a maindevelopment focus as of right

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now. OK.
Turbo, Are you ready for your ground?
Your ground breaking. I have a question.
Oh, this is. Going to be a fun one that you
can talk about. Of the characters that you're
not working on, who do you want to add to the game?
Oh, OK, so. Give me like 3 of your dream

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characters that you want to add to this.
Game dream characters. Yes, Sir.
Now I'm going to say characters,whether I say them or not is not
confirming or denying them and development and or being worked
on. Nice.
Just give that the heads up. That's fine.
So my most wanted character fromthe Warner Bro IP would be Green
Lantern. I'm a huge Green Lantern.
Yeah, I respect it. Perfect.

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That's no, he's made. He's perfect for it he's made
for. It my most wanted third party
would be Mark Grayson or Invincible.
Invincible. Yeah.
He's 2 and my most wanted character that we probably will
just never add due to their ownership.
Is any character from Star Wars like Anakin?
Those are nice. Those are good that.

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Very good answer. No, no, those are.
I always thought of invincible be amazing in this game.
Yeah, I always thought I'd be fucking perfect.
Sure. Yeah.
Can we expect to see a light Saber from another character?
Yeah. Some sort of a light Saber
hockey was like I'm in the game with a damn light Saber.
Hockey was the final boss. That means I could be the mid

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boss. That's what I That's what I.
Was doing it was the only character.
Oh, oh, actually that I'm glad you asked that question because
I asked Tony this way back because you know how Smash
Brothers is exclusively just video game characters and Warner
Brothers is Warner Brothers properties pretty much.
And I know he wanted to. I mean, he didn't say it, but I

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could tell he was a Naruto fan and I know he wanted to throw in
a character from Naruto. Whatever.
Is there any possibility of a video game character or an anime
character getting into multiverses?
Every character is a possibility.
That being said, we like to playit safe so we can avoid things
like cease and assist DMCA, but yes.

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That's true. But there's a possibility of
like Warner Bros owns animes andor if we get like a written
approval. So things like that would
definitely increase the odds of characters like that getting
added into the game. And when it comes to video game
specific, if Warner Bros owns it, it's always on the table.

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And then on more other characters like indie games or
for examples. It just depends on how that
indie game tends to approach. Wow.
You know what's funny? Because I always thought of Guts
from Berserk in this game. I always, I always try to find a
way to get him in every game I like, OK?
I just want to. I just want to chop someone in

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half, like that's all I really ever want.
To do side note, Guts would be insane in Guilty Gear.
Dude, no, I'm saying like he deserves to be in every game.
Like, yeah, there's a lot of games, every game possible.
Just not Conchiro, he can't be in every game.
Oh, Conchiro, Hey, hey. Listen, I already in.
Hockey. We have a question from the chat
actually. What is the time to get to them?
Will I know but will mode B in multi verses infinite?

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Well, let's. Stay We want to try to keep all
of the content that is already in the game in the game.
OK, so more specifics. By launch there will be
guaranteed 1V1's, guaranteed 2V2's.
The other game modes might be under development for a little
bit, but we do want to keep every single thing that is
currently in the game and the game in some way, shape or form.

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Awesome. Thank you so much.
Awesome. Can we add a story mode where a
lawyer is a boss so you can stopany type of cease of desist
order? Any cease of desist.
A lawyer. A lawyer is the boss of the
game. Oh.
Yeah. That's kind of funny.
That would be very fucking funny.
That would be fucking great, Phoenix, right?

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Let me stop. How many people are in your team
right now? As of right now, we are just
over 80 members. 80. Nice, that's a lot of people.
Holy shit, that's actually. That's probably more than player
first games. Right.
I think. So like I don't because I
remember that when they were like fresh out the beta, they

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were like, yo, we need some, we need a team, we need some
people. Y'all got 80 heads.
What Multi Versus fans love the game?
And I'm so thankful for my team and the work they do.
I love that so many people have hit us up personally.
So many people we've hit up, butthey found out we're like, oh,
that's amazing. I would love to do it.
And it's just been awesome building the game with them.

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Oh, that's, that's incredible. Dude, that's crazy.
Cuz I remember, I, dude, I just remember we were talking about
this. I'm like, I'm like, I just feel
like something after they announced they were going to be
done, I'm like, I just don't feel like this is done.
If there's too much left on the table.
It plays too good. It's got so much charm, so cool.
It's fun throwing people to heaven.
It's it's, it's fun. It's fun stealing someone's

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faces, Arya and blasting them off the stage.
Like there's so many cool. Moments.
It's cool things you can do in this game and, and, and the the
skins, I mean just the skins alone.
They got the 1989 Michael KeatonBatman.
Come on, man. Jesus, when that happened, I
said, oh, man, if this goes away, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go to
Warner Brothers myself, and I'm just gonna.
Wow. Sir and.

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Have a conversation, have a conversation have a conversation
friendly conversation have. A conversation that games
division is gone. Good luck.
Oh, something in the chat. Also the perk system, is that
staying adding more perks? What's what's going on with the
perks? When it comes to perks,
everything required for gameplaywill be 100% available with the

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moment you open the game, so allperks will be free so there will
be no perk currency or anything like that to grind for.
That being said, the perk systemis one thing that we are
actively looking into and proving and finding a way where
every character instead of it being 5% Snowball Steve or Speed
Force of Pugilist, the variety feels competitive and

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entertaining and the perks that your character specifically has
are perks that you actually wantto walk in and maybe can rotate
between versus maybe having likeone or two.
Just say good ones. Wow.
Nice. What was one thing damn my voice
man. What was what was one thing in
the in the game currently that you didn't like that you would

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hope to fix in your version? I would say I don't like how
Shields were implemented. I like the idea of it, but I
think they failed to correctly implement RPS or a rock paper
scissors system because usually how Shields tend to work or is
it's a this option beats this one.

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Another option beats that one and it goes in a circle.
But in multi they did shield beats Attack, Attack or, but
then some attacks beat shield and it made it just kind of not
the most healthy mechanic, I want to say.
So Shields are definitely something that we're looking to
improve along with movement. I feel like a lot of the

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original love for the game came with the movement, came with the
free flow gameplay. So we're definitely planning on
improving those two things. Awesome.
What about decay? Yes, thank you for bringing that
up. Thank you because sorry to cut
cut you up because they do have it listed attack decay.
But that's bullshit that that did not make it over.

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I don't care cuz from the beta had it right.
The beta had it right. It didn't announce it.
It was in there, but it wasn't. I don't feel it was as impactful
and I don't think it was mentioned like it used to say
attack decay. Yeah, I like that indicator.
It kind of took that away. Cuz The thing is to add on about
the the Shields is like, I agreewith what he said about the
Shields is it's a good idea because it's trying to prevent

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people from being cheap and doing infinite combos and stuff
like that. But it wasn't implemented
correctly. And I think that like, yeah,
like the, the attack decay and the sound that it makes when
you're keep spamming, you know, the doom that it keeps doing
over and over. It's like, hey, your character
has multiple moves. Why don't you try using them
rather than spamming the same one over and over?

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So it kind of forces people to be to learn the characters right
and learn how to spam. But yeah, is there going to be
some of the attack decay making its return the right way, should
I say? When it comes to changes like
attack decay or very specific like full overhauls, whether we
implement them or not, we'll still be under play testing for

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a little bit longer or for a decent bit longer.
So whether it is returning in its old state or coming back as
it is right now, there will be some sort of stale mechanic, but
the exact details is still to bedetermined.
Oh, and a real quick question, who is your main in multiverses?
I've been through a few. I have an issue with not liking

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top tiers, so recently I've beenplaying a decent bit of Nubia.
She's awesome Raven, but she's the opposite of a low tier.
I like puppet characters and they haven't really implemented
1 yet, so. Nubia is so dope I I really love
her. She's one of my mains, I love
Nubia. Yeah, she's so awesome.
Yep, after I fixed I fixed the dead zones.

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Oh, I don't know what you were about to say there.
After I fix the dead zone, you're.
Going to say something else. Yeah, I was like.
She became. Very lethal.
OK, almost caught him slipping there.
After I, I did nothing to her. And to the Nubia haters, just
don't use her. It's very simple.

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Like. Remove her from the game.
No, people like her so they'll use her if you don't like her.
I don't. I hate Finn.
I don't use them. You know it's.
Simple. It's simple.
It's funny too because Nubia is not my best character.
I would probably say Batman is, but when I beat people with
Nubia, they don't even finish the whole match.
They after I beat the one round,they're just like I'm out.
I hate your character and I hatethat.
Should go with her and they leave.

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And I get them off the top of the screen like I'm out of here.
I. Got a question, hockey.
I'm actually glad you brought itup because it makes me think of
this. Is there a way we could like
penalties? Is there penalties for rage
quitters or like something that we could like like like put a
put, give them a badge if they rage quit a lot?
You know, like oh, known to ragequit or known to quit mid match.
Can we do that with people like a penalty box?

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Yeah, like a penalty thing. I would have to look into that.
I haven't looked into rage quit penalty.
It happens. All the time it.
Happens all the. Time, Yes.
No, they have to have that. They got to have.
No, just like a badge. You get a badge for just walking
off the stage rather than fighting me.
Listen, I've gotten my my ass whooped so many times.
I take my beating like a man. So if they leave and and they

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quit, no you need a you need a badge of something for quitting
leaving mid game. I fight a lot, a lot of bitches.
I think I, I fight there's too many that's I I love platform
fighters, but there's something about the bitches that come to
platform fighters. They're more prevalent.
Like if I want to have a, if I want to fight a real a real
fighter, you know, that's that Street Fighter six, you know I'm
going to fight somebody. They fight to the finish and

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platform fighters, they just have they they leave in the
bitchiest ways. You know, they run off the.
Stage and you. You could beat me down.
I'm not going to run off the stage.
I'm going to fight you until youyou take out the last, you get
the last point, the last stock. You know what's, you know what's
funny about that? It's not even like, I kill you
and you quit. I hit you a few times and you
ran off the stage. I just hit you a few times and

(28:06):
you ran like, I don't understandthat.
That's like a new way of quitting.
Got a question before from the chat.
There's a lot of been, there's been a lot of questions about
skins being available at the when the game is.
Launched great question. So when it comes to.
How we're doing unlocks when it comes to some things like skins,

(28:26):
we want to basically have as many skins available instantly
for free. That being said, we do want to
add some type of way to where ifyou've played or if you put in
the time, you get something thatyou've earned for doing that.
Whether that's like a level skinor whether that's you unlock
skins by like winning or something like that.
We do want to find a way to reward players for playing well,

(28:48):
similar to like how ring skins worked, but not a lot more
frequently. But we do also want to have a
decently large variety of set skins at launch for free.
For example, Smash Bros, how youlogin, you play a game, you get
like these 6 character or skins to choose from.
And we probably won't lock it behind a rarity.

(29:08):
It will just be more of these skins are all free for this
character. These skins are all free for
this character. But then if you want to grind,
there's this really cool skin you can get that you can feel
like you've earned something foryour playtime.
Wow, OK, that's cool dude, that is cool.
You have a question. And I guess this is going to be
on PC, right? So it's like we're going to be

(29:31):
playing on PC. OK, cool.
I I got APC. This is going to work.
Yeah, I, I, I would just, I, I would just, yeah, welcome to
2025. So old.
That's like the oldest statementI've ever heard.
I got APC that's going to work, that is.
Going to work. Yeah.
Yes, you can play Doom on your. PC Jesus.
I'm the least, I'm the. Least PC among the group, but

(29:53):
it's OK. I I, I do have APC.
I'm gonna get this thing going. I'm from multiverse.
Hakio's not coming back now. He doesn't want to deal with
this nonsense. Scare the guest.
You you always scare the guest. Jesus Christ, you have a
question or your. Wife, you could do another
question. I'll ask mine after you.
OK, one of the cool things I used to love about Smash

(30:15):
Brothers Ultimate is the fact that I could record, hit replay
or record a match where I just whooped someone's ass in a
perfect in an amazing way. But I could never do that in
Multiverse. Is there you think there's is
there going to be like a featurewhere I could record an actual
beat down and keep it? That is definitely something

(30:38):
that we've heard requested quitea decent bit and something we'd
want to look into. A lot of those more aesthetic or
like simple changes like that orlet's say overhauls or like
adding a fully new mechanic aren't the main priority.
Because at the end of the day, what we originally had to do is
build servers, improve the gameplay, and then once we have

(30:59):
the gameplay at a good state, then we'll start looking to
implement those more looks fun or like more.
I don't even know what that would be fall under media based
improvements or things like that.
Interesting. Yeah, well, that's fine.
We don't need the replays right now, as long as it got, you
know, peer-to-peer. But it would be cool to like,
like beat somebody's ass and then post it on Twitter right

(31:23):
after. Just put your phone up recording
the team like automatically. Just cut the part you want.
Put your phone up on the team. Real professional.
Real good now, man. Yeah Hakio, do you envision
Mortal Kombat characters are working well within the
multiverses game mechanics? Oh my God.
Want to see what your opinion the multi Mortal Kombat

(31:44):
characters were? I think characters like Mortal
Kombat characters will flow perfectly into multiverses.
Wow once again they are fightinggame characters with aerials and
grounded moves that we could pull from and long list of lore
and fighting mechanics that theyhave specific to them.
I know a lot of people questioned how their fatalities

(32:06):
or implementing some sort of taunt fatality.
I don't know how their fatalities would work.
Why would they be? Fatal No you know what he could
do whatever he wants No, you could RIP you could RIP off bugs
head yo that would be. Crazy or or.
Chop fin in half. It's like, yeah, it's like a
cartoon aesthetic. So, you know, Mortal Kombat
characters with the fatalities, they might have to be dumbed
down a little bit. I don't know.
They're they're known for their gore and their blood.

(32:27):
So, you know, I'd like to see that.
They could do the fatalities, but a big sensor ribbon would.
Cover all the brutality. That's interesting.
I like that. Dude like they did with a
punisher Punisher Xbox? When you put them in the wood
chipper it turns black. And White.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, hey, yeah, actually
listen, that'll be pretty dumb. Bring out a dummy of the
character they're fighting and RIP the head.
Off fake ass. Actually, that'd be pretty

(32:48):
awesome. A fake ass version.
Do you see all the cotton come out of them?
Oh Jesus hockey, we have a question from the chat.
Will Multiverse Infinite launch with new content or will it have
the same content as the most recent update?
It will have new content. We're a lot of the development
time due to having such a large team has been able to put into

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both bringing back and making sure we have access to all of
the old content along with implementing new content.
The game once again is 100% free, no profit, no nothing
along those lines. So all of this content will be
that way. And then since there's like no
affiliation or anything like that with Warner Bros, we're

(33:31):
able to implement pretty much whatever we want, which is
pretty cool. Wow.
That's pretty awesome. Nice.
Chad is asking about speed. Isn't isn't season 5 the speed
of the Devil beta? Beta still quicker?
Yeah, beta is definitely still quicker though.
I do. You know what, there's so many
advantages with both of them. It's it's kind of just depends
on the player, you know? Will it be like a star system

(33:52):
where you can add speed if you want it?
Oh, that's actually that's like some St. old school Street
Fighter shit right there. Yeah, yeah, some.
People who match up with that speed, you can play online.
I don't know. I don't know how that would
work. Oh yeah, the speed thing, if you
were able to adjust the speed. Level Pacquiao, do you already
have since you said the format of the character releases is
going to follow suit? Like the original multiverses

(34:13):
like 2 per season? Do you already have the two
planned for the 2 new charactersplanned?
Yes, but there are more than twoin development and which 2 are
coming out first is still to be determined.
And my and my second part question, are you a Thundercats

(34:35):
fan? I am interested, but I wouldn't
say I've watched enough to be a full fan.
Fuck. That was wild, that.
Came from my my chest. I know came from the depths of

(34:57):
your soul. One of these characters that
you're planning for your first season wouldn't happen to have
the nickname of. Heisenberg.
Would they? Oh my.
God, dude dude style. He can't talk.
Pacquiao, Pacquiao. That was like that didn't
happen. That was like the worst way of
like trying to be slick I've ever heard try to.
Ruin this man's interview. See, at least I said, are you a

(35:19):
fan? I'm trying to be super obvious,
you know? I'm trying to be as
inconspicuous as possible, drop some hints but not really
revealing. You played the game.
Talk about the. Game.
I have AI, have a PC. I have a PC.
Yeah, you have a piece. Akio, how will you and the team
go about doing reveal trailers for Multiverses Infinite?

(35:41):
Great question. Part of keeping everything
private is for the hype. And doing reveal trailers is
definitely something we're interested.
We have two people, since we've decided working on a few of
these trailers who for the last few months have been working on
possibly building up a reveal trailer storyboard in it.

(36:01):
And it is definitely something we'll want to do, kind of build
up hype around how we're revealing these characters.
Because if we were just going tonot reveal, release them with
any type of hype, might as well just tell you all now.
But the mystery is kind of part of the fun of everybody wanting
to know what comes up next. Awesome.
Yeah, and the The funny thing that Hakio left out is that he

(36:21):
wants to do the reveal here liveon the level he left that part.
Completely. We have another question Radical
Reggie wants to ask. Will Turbo avoid me in this game
like he avoids me in Street Fighters?

(36:43):
Yo, Reggie is slick. That's a great question.
Though it is a great question. Reggie Street Fighter 6 is going
to be on Fighter Fridays this Friday.
I'm going to be there. Let's see if you will.
Let's see if you. Will so back to Chad, Chad.
Chad was asking a question aboutthe other the other form of

(37:04):
currency in the game. What is?
It gleamium. Yes, they were asking about
what's going to be what's going to happen with that.
So with the Gleamium system, obviously since there's no cost,
no profit, nothing will have a price tag associated with it.
Somebody ever tries to say something in an MBS infinite
cost, call them a liar and report it to somebody on my

(37:24):
team. We want to find a way to where
the gleaming you have, we could turn it into a new currency
that's 100% free, so you didn't feel like you spent the money on
the game and never actually got to use it.
That being said, since everything's for or doesn't have
a price tag or a cost anymore, it will not be returning.

(37:45):
And we might plan to implement something like how gold worked
in the beta, but on a lot easiersystem to earn.
Because while we want it to be able to be earned, we don't want
you to feel like you're grindingfor a nine to five just to
unlock one scan. We want it to be like, oh, let
me hop on today, unlock a scan and call it a day.
There's nothing too crazy, but still a way to earn some little

(38:06):
cosmetics and stuff all those times.
Pretty cool, yeah. That's dope, I saw something in
the chat. Will Multiverse Infinite be a
mod or a separate launcher? It will be a mod, so we plan to
basically give you a few additions to your game that
allows us to implement our changes.

(38:27):
Which pretty much we are trying to keep it in the lines of
respecting the work and honoringthe work and the vision the
original team have while implementing changes to can
carry the love that the community has.
Nice. Awesome.
Not bad. I have a question and I think
that the original multi verses didn't do this and I hope they

(38:48):
can. You know, you guys don't do it
as well. Smash Brothers did this, which I
wasn't a fan of, is echo fighters.
There will be no echo fighters. Correct as of right now, our
goal is to implement new stuff. Nice.
There's no reason with a roster of only around 30 characters
just over to take one and clone it and just like Martha and

(39:10):
Lucina type yeah when a lot of these characters.
I'll give an example of Supermanand Supergirl.
Completely different characters use their abilities in
completely different ways. Fight and so we'd rather avoid
creating an echo character and more make a character that
resembles them but in a whole new way.
You know what's funny? It's funny that he mentioned

(39:31):
Supergirl because I had this thought the other day and I said
watch Supergirl be in the game and she could throw up and down
and I would be like, I would be so conflicted.
Yeah, like I would be so conflicted.
Your new name. I find it funny because The
Powerpuff Girls have a vertical down.

(39:52):
I think bubbles. I think Bubbles, yeah, I think
bubbles has a throw or whatever,something like that, that.
Was like in the game it's still ending.
I'm like, she has it, but they took it from Superman you.
Know what The funny thing is? The reason why I played
Multiverse is because I saw it in the trailer.
He threw someone down. I said that's the funniest thing
I've ever seen and so disrespectful.
It's just throwing someone straight down and I'm like, and

(40:12):
they and then when they took it away, I said, oh God, why would
you do that to me? And it made it so weak anyway,
he thought. Left to right.
Yeah, left to right is weak as hell.
I'm like. Man, at least throw what they
gonna throw him. Throw him hockey.
We got another. Question, we got another
question from the chat. Will the servers be able to
handle a big player count? Will they let?
Will you guys have like precautions taken to to handle?

(40:34):
It's gonna be peer-to-peer. Though, Right.
OK. Yeah, gameplay will be
peer-to-peer servers for matchmaking.
It's our hope, only one way to know and that's testing it.
So to be determined, but our goal is to make sure matchmaking
wives will be able to put you into or it will be able to
matchmaking with a decent amountof players.

(40:56):
OK. Yeah, tech guy.
It's just me who's on the throw.It's just me.
I just always will complain about it.
It's just something that upset me a lot.
So no shadow character. So we're not going to get like
the Daffy Duck version of Bugs Bunny, like the old school Bugs.
The brown bugs wasn't that. Wasn't that his original design?

(41:18):
Right that. Was the old bugs?
Yeah, that's. The old bugs Hockey O thank you
for the Super chat ring Jay thank you ring.
And how exactly will the game beable to be played by new players
if it's a mod for the delisted download?
We're looking into ways where wecan find or allow new players to
play the game without infringingon distributing a one of those

(41:44):
license game. OK.
There is certain platforms that archive games that are lost and
there's a possibility through things like that.
OK, in the meantime, download your game now.
Yes. Yeah.
Go on Steam, get it now. And also what if someone just
played on epic games? Are they able to play multi

(42:07):
versus infinite or is it just a steam thing?
Yeah. So it at the end of the day is
the same file system. But the reason I believe this
question probably refers to withthe cross progression system
that we were able to implement. It's just it's using your Steam
ID to take your multi verses data through Steam.

(42:31):
It's a lot easier to navigate than I think on the programming
side. OK.
Not bad, not bad and. With Steam, you can't download
your game after it's gone if youdownloaded it beforehand.
Right. If you have it on your hard
drive, you're good. Yeah, but if it's not, then I
don't know. Yeah, you're kind of, you're
kind of screwed if you don't. You can check it.
Sometimes I've done it, but usually you can't.
Yeah. No, if you mess up, people will

(42:53):
get steamed. Stop, stop, stop it.
Your account dropped down to 0. Now everyone just left the chat.
Thanks. Thanks for that.
Appreciate that. That was my one one joke quote
for the podcast. That was it.
Well, don't let it happen again.It was one joke.
Don't ever. Joke I got, I got it out of my

(43:13):
system. Yeah, it's like Steam.
I had to get that one. In moving on, Moving on as you
suck the energy out of the room completely.
Hakio, is there a plan for a reveal trailer?
Yep, We definitely have a revealtrailer and plan right now.
Our goal is to build the best game and release the game when

(43:34):
it's done. So when it's ready, we don't
want to do what let's say multi versus fans are used to and
release a game with a lot of potential that doesn't seem to
be tapped yet. We want to try to get all of the
potential out and build the bestgame possible, then distribute
it so the trailer will come around when that time gets
there. Awesome, real quick because I

(43:56):
missed this question before. How will leaks be avoided with
so many people on the project? Tape to the.
Mount tape to the. Mount Tape go through a pretty
decent vetting process to where we talk to them, we get to know
them, and then a lot of the teammembers.
For example, the reason the teamhas been able to grow is it
started out with being a bunch of people who applied and have

(44:17):
the love for the game. And then there's a lot of these
people who are friends with eachother and things along that
line. Links are bound to happen and
it's something that tends to be unfortunate.
But a lot of the team is puttingin a hard time and hard effort
into this project. And also it has a great love for
teasing and kind of like keepingit private for now.

(44:37):
So the bigger release is more entertaining, more fun.
I was I was waiting for the answer to be, don't worry about
it. His boys gets mad deep.
Don't we have ways? We have ways here in the
background house. I have many skills.
It's like our team gets 10 lashes you.

(45:01):
Guys got a rule with an iron fist?
Yeah. That's Singapore punishment.
I'm sorry, right? Television.
Just skipping out ideas. Stop drinking.
I got a question. What do you think would make an
interesting character? Daenerys Targaryen or Jon Snow,
Which? One listen now for those

(45:21):
questions I. Just wanted to see what his
thoughts were. Listen.
I got a question so but a fighting game community, you
know smash Brothers are the the smash brothers melee mod is
hugely popular they've ran a whole bunch of tournaments and
stuff like that it's a huge fan base with that I said plans to
have any like a tournament edition or anything like that.

(45:41):
We. Are definitely interested in a
competitive scene and we've alsopartnered in development with
two very notable E sports teams in the NBS scene, one being
Igloo E Sports ran by Draco. Check out his Twitch huge fan.
He's actually host in a tournament right now.
And then the other one that we're teaming up with is another

(46:05):
multi versus focused E sports team called Tune Force ran by
Bob the Midnight Dancer and Riley.
And there's a voice actor trailer being worked on by Tune
Force for us right now. So we definitely are interested
in the competitive scene and areworking with E sports teams that
were specifically founded rounded for multi to try to stay
true to the love and the passionthe game had.

(46:27):
That's dope. Cool.
Cool. All right.
I, I have a, a character question, but it's, it's a
little tricky, all right. And I don't want, I'm not
baiting you to reveal anything. All right, here we go.
All right, here we go. So obviously in the multiverses
trailer, they had, you know, a bunch of teasers in the
background and one of the teasers in, in the the Teen
Titan Tower, they had, you know,Robin in the background or

(46:47):
whatever. And everyone obviously assumes
at some point in time Robin is going to be in multiverses.
Yeah, LeBron. Robin.
No, not LeBron. Robin.
That is not any that's that's not a thing.
Damn. But I always wondered.
I'm like, Robin would be cool, but I'm like, there's so many
different Robins. You got Bo Stick Robin, you got
you got Cortana. Robin.
Cortana. Robin.
Yeah. Damian Wayne.

(47:08):
Drake. Not Drake the singer, you know,
you got Nightwing, but he was originally Robin.
You know, there's so many different ways to go about it
now, not saying he's in the game, that's saying you're
working on him, but how would you go about it?
Would you pick a specific one orwould you be like, these are all
separate characters? Like how would you all?
Skins. Yeah, 1 skin has a bow.

(47:30):
The other one has. Yeah, that's tough.
I wouldn't even know what to fucking do to be honest.
When it comes to choices specifically about characters
that are, we have multiple personas, let's put it that way.
So Robin's an example, Green Lantern's an example.
It's a case by case thing. And so it just depends on what

(47:51):
the team feels is best at that time, what the we feel the
community would want. Might even ask for some
community insight and we'll probably go off of that.
I think the chap wants the Teen Titans gold Robin.
Fuck no, absolutely not. I mean, honestly.
No. Honestly, if they.
As a skin, sure, but like, no honestly.

(48:11):
What they could do? If they want to, if they want to
appease all the fans, all the Robin fans, they could have
Nightwing, then they could have Damian Wayne, then they could
have Red Robin. Well, like all separate
characters, pretty much. I mean, technically they're
quite different. No LeBron.
No, we can get rid of him. We can, we can, we can get him
out of the game. Damn.
But they did mention Teen TitansGo.
They didn't mention Teen Titans Go, which actually had the

(48:33):
Thundercats in an episode. Just so just so you know, I'm
just throwing it out there. The Thundercats, we're in an
episode. So they they are relevant.
And you know, Lionel was in it. He was in, in, in, in.
There's a question in. Superman's throw in your stump.
Just throw it in. I want to.
Get it out the way it's been asked a lot all.

(48:54):
Right. Go ahead, Jay, Go ahead.
So let's curse to ask the how doyou guys feel about the jab
problem? And is there any way?
The jab problem, Yeah. So we looked one things that
we've been looking into balancing and if you look at the
roster and you go through, you'll realize since jab is
attached to F tilt, neutral is usually a kill move.
Then that leaves down tilt. And it tends to be that down

(49:18):
tilt is another type of kill move instead of combo move.
So we're planning on finding ways to implement more or
implement more branch windows. So jab is not the only way you
have to start a combo and you don't have to do aerial into jab
into aerial into jab. You can maybe do aerial downhill
jab up to and just loop it back and forth.

(49:39):
Whether that's through implementing things like land
cancels, whether that's adding more combo routes to moves that
may have been kill move changing.
His functionality is still up inthe air and still need to be
play tested and determined that way.
We definitely do want to increase the variety of combo
routes to where it's not just one combo throughout the whole
game, you do it 8 times and that's how you play and where

(50:00):
it's also not just who can win the jab off.
Nice. OK.
Not bad, not bad is. That what y'all wanted to hear
chat. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's it's funny, like you're looking at the chat like there's
so many like fans of Robin, but like everyone likes different
Robins and I'm like, damn, you might have to add them all.
Yeah, and they say. They're all different people,
which is. Crazy, I can't believe I forgot
to mention Red Hood. Yeah, and then you got Red Hood.

(50:22):
That's like damn this spoiler spoiler spoiler his dude Robin.
Oh my God, you his mic. Get him on the podcast right
now. I got stupider from that
comment. Get this man.
Out of here. What's that?
Red Hood, Oh man, he. Said.
Red Hood's not Robin. Akio, do you have a a release

(50:43):
date rollout launch window plan for this?
Any goal in mind or? We plan to release the game when
it is finished. Yes, I love that answer.
That is the hold on. And exact dates is as soon as we
can, but we want to release the best game possible, so we're

(51:06):
going to wait until it's finished.
That's the best. Got it.
I really really really really appreciate that answer.
That's the best answer I've heard.
That's the best answer, yeah. And and this and and you know,
it takes time to get that throwback.
What we talking about? I said the rollback talking.
I said the rollback, rollback back.
Net code. You you misheard me the

(51:27):
rollback. So wait, rollback net code will
be included right? No.
So the let me actually get the documentation so I can correctly
say it. So it's going to be servers for
matchmaking peer-to-peer and then let me find the exact.

(51:50):
It is dedicated net code and it is delayed synchronized.
OK, I got to make sure I wasn't spreading this information.
No, OK, no, I'm. Perfect.
They have to keep the cost low. It costs money for like, of
course I got stuff. You know I don't.
Know about that? No, Turbo's just saying shit.
No man I I know about, I know gigs he has.

(52:12):
APC. Yeah, the PC, he has APC.
I. Know personal computer.
I know gigs and Rams, man, gigs and Rams.
No. Why does that sound weird when
you say it? Because he doesn't know what.
It means Turbo got floppy disks.He's just throwing out a
computer jargon like you know what you're talking about.
He's. Throwing out terms, I don't CPU
GPUs, I got that. And chat.

(52:33):
He did not change any release date, he just said when it's
done. He doesn't mean anything about a
release date. Meaning he wants you to be happy
when it's out, so it plays well,right?
We don't want any mistakes. Tech guy, if you gotta wait that
long, so be it. I can't.
Confirm tech guy is impatient. You gotta calm yourself.

(52:54):
Will it be before GTA 6? I.
Think everything is before GTA. 6 Sir John Cena turned heel
before we got GTA 6 Spoiler spoiler.
Oh, you say spoiler one more time.
I can't. Hakio, are you a Game of Thrones

(53:14):
fan? I am.
I had a concept. So I was a big, I was, I had a
big, big fan of Ned. Ned Stark.
I had an idea of if he was in multiverses.
He takes his head off and he throws it at you.
Wow. Wow.
What do you think? Wow.
You're sitting on this idea, dude.

(53:37):
Wow, you and. The team are thankful for the
exciting. Hockey.
Oh, if you want to. Say it sucks you.
Could just say it sucks, he appreciates it.
Should be in the cinema only. If you were sitting on that
stupid. He could be a character from
Lord of the Rings and Game of. Thrones.
Oh, he could be. Bar Amir and he could be Ned
Stark. Separate Skid, he could be.

(53:59):
His phone he could be. It was possible, and Ned Stark
takes his head off. But no, not that move, no Wow.
Unless it was a. Unless it was a Mortal Kombat
character that did it. I can't.
Damn. Then you could tie it all in
together. Double B1 happy fan, full
circle. Hockey.
Oh, I I think you should consider looking into the
Silverhawks. Why?

(54:21):
Why? Why?
Listen, no, you don't get if I don't get fucking Thundercats,
you don't get Silver. So I didn't say I didn't want
Thundercats. Bro you see they did a crossover
with Thundercats and he man figures it's so weird they did
it. Yeah, that is weird.
It's do they look OK? They did a.
Crossover. No, it's just they did.
I think they did a crossover Ninja Turtles in he man as well.

(54:43):
Wait, he. Man's not he.
Man's not Warner Brothers, right?
That's Hasbro, right? Yeah, Mattel or no, I think
they're wrong. Yeah, I think yeah, it's Hasbro.
Fuck. Hasbro.
Take take away my damn childhoodright here on the podcast.
Anything's possible. Terry, you got a question.
I did a second ago. No talk about, no more
questions. No, no.
He's gonna say some, He's gonna say some characters.

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Yeah, he's gonna stay away from characters.
I'm not gonna say characters. My questions were not about the
characters. I don't even know what you just.
Said I asked a question. I had a question in my head that
I was really gonna ask because Iasked.
That's what. I'll do OK.
I'm trying to think of what I didn't.
I went over that one. I went over that one Characters
I already mentioned that one those.
Legolas and Gimli would be great.
No, not Gimli, Legolas and Gandalf.

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Well, Gimli is still good. Gimli is like 2 feet tall, you
can't hit him. You'll be another, he'll be
another. Finn have that problem.
He would be taller than Finn. No he won't.
I think he's a Torf, but he's taller than Finn.
I would imagine anything. That's not.
We can figure this out later. I was about to say this is this
might get offensive. We, we, we don't want to get
cancelled on that. Take.

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Man, can we add Willow? No, no, that's Disney.
Fuck, I know it's dude. No, it would have been Mad
Martin. I would have, dude.
I would have been. Like how kill, yeah, here we go.
How's the music going to work? Because you know, music gets
licensed and stuff like that. How we going to how's that going
to be dealt with in the game as far as tracks going to be using,
you can be using one that's already in the game.
How is new music going to be implemented?
How's that going to work? We have, we'll definitely be

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keeping the music that's alreadyin the game.
And when it comes to OST and music and things under that
umbrella, we have a few specificOST people that will take
probably already used Warner Bros music and tweak it up.
Think of like the Scooby-doo theme for example and basically

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implement music that way where we are honoring it but adding a
few tweaks but still we won't own the rights or it won't be
anything that we are completely or affiliated with all.
Right, not bad. You remember on the on the Xbox
360 where you can add your own soundtrack by just having a
playlist? I missed that and I used to.

(56:55):
I used to have the best soundtracks.
Is there is there something you guys can do?
Because you guys are geniuses, you can probably figure this
out. Do something where you can put
your own soundtrack in for thesestages.
Oh my God, that. Would be.
That would be. Awesome.
That is definitely a possibilitywe would have to look into in
the future. It falls under the clipping
umbrella or like that media umbrella to where it's not the

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major focus. The major focus is the best
gameplay, the best play experience, and then once you
can log on and have an amazing time and have fun gameplay,
that's when we'll start implementing a lot of these more
aesthetic or media based or changes like that.
Nice. I'll remind you in six months 6.
Months. It's on PC man.

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You have to. You can do that.
Stuff turbo has a PC. I have a PC.
You know, you know. It's a PC.
Oh wow. But a?
Floppy. Not all of us have a PC by the
way. Some of us are stuck with
console. With inflation and everything,
prices rising, not a lot of people are going to have PCs.
Oh my. God.
The only PCs people are going tohave is being politically.
Correct, that sounded so old. That sounded so old.

(57:58):
That sounds so old. Anyway yo ring J5, thanks for
the Super chat. Oh gosh, thank you man.
He says. How does the game handle the
exclusive test alpha evo only cosmetics?
Are they grindable or only accessible if you have them and
have had them and save transfer them?
Whether we keep them towards thepeople who already own them,

(58:24):
keep it that way, or implement our own or do something under
that lines is a lot more to be determined on the very, very
specifics of the badges. That being said, there will be
certain badges like that the devteam will have or that people of
the community might be able to get and things like that.
Badges relating to rage quittingmaybe?

(58:46):
Yes, that's like the. Best fucking idea.
I swear to God, that's amazing. But yeah, when it comes to how
badges that were previously exclusive and cosmetics that
were previously exclusive will be unlocked, if it's like an EVO
first place badge or something of those lines, we're probably
gonna keep it exclusive. But if it's like, I don't know

(59:06):
how to describe it, it's the there's a banner that a bunch of
people use that you could only get if you're in the alpha that
will be back on being available and a lot of those very, very
exclusive and things like that. Nice, interesting.
I'm trying to find the comment because it just went up.
It was a very important comment and I want to reread it.
Where is it? I think it was right before.

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I think it was right after Chuckmentioned Silverhawks.
Oh, there it goes. Shadowmaster 7 Music says
Thundercats is good too. Wow.
Very. Cool.
Wow. It's very important.
Just wanted to bring that up because it's a, it's a big deal.
Actually, I have another question because someone brought
up a character, but like, you know how Iron Giant is a very

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large character and trying to get his moves to to, you know,
be properly with the hit, you know, done with the hit boxes
and all that. It was definitely a challenge
because they had to remove him at one point.
A lot of people rumor you know Godzilla and King Kong.
If there's any other big characters that are coming for
Multiverses infinite, how do youguys plan to tackle large

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characters in the game that are the size of Iron Giant?
Since we don't have a like set date, we'll need to launch these
characters and things like that.And we don't have a company
behind us saying like, hey, do it like this.
We will play, test, play, test, play, test, play, test.
Nice. Right now our play testers are a
lot of the top players, competitive players like Feos,

(01:00:31):
jungle, Fat Pack, all these people who enter tournaments,
win and place like crazy along with some other players from
other competitive games. When it comes to play testing,
our main focus is making sure wecan not launch a character with
these loops that it took one person finding and then posting
it on Twitter. And then next thing you know you
have 17 iron giants touching youonce and eliminating you.

(01:00:54):
So we wanted to recruit all of these players who are, for the
lack of better terms, lab demonsand are able to take this
player, this these characters and grind and like find the best
routes and then balance accordingly and just go through
an extensive play time testing phase to implement the best
changes possible. Nice, I'm liking everything I'm
hearing right now. It's getting me very excited.

(01:01:18):
You know, with the exception of the non.
No enthusiasm with other cats but.
Yeah, dude, I'm. Sorry, no, I've I have a
question. Is there anything, because I
could see, you know, as the chatcontinues to scroll, everyone's
just kind of looking for something a little taste of.
Do you have any kind of exclusive thing to announce to

(01:01:42):
the chat to kind of calm them down?
Is there any any any hint of a character, any hint of a a stage
or any hint of a cosmetic or something?
Well, let me ask. Let me ask this real quick.
Damn, you cut off my question. You killed all the momentum.
Wow. Are there are there any
characters that you have hinted at in your current poster that

(01:02:06):
you have on your promo? Could.
Have followed that after. My question been a certain
character I want to say teased almost 8 Times Now along with
throughout multiple of our graphics and things posted there
has been multiple teases hidden within.
Look closely, everyone. Shaggy Shaggy's coming back

(01:02:31):
every Oh my God, I'm. Happy to announce.
Batman has been announced. Batman has been announced.
That's. Wild.
That's now Hakio. Have you worked on other
projects? You know, you seem, you know,
very talented taking this whole thing on, you know, as the lead
of this fan project thrown at you, you know, very

(01:02:53):
articulately, are you working onany other projects on the side?
Have you done something in the past that you want to throw out
to the people right now? My experience coming into an VS
Infinite is inside of the cyber security world.
I've helped manage teams and do things like that for years,
developing tools, things relating to my job.

(01:03:14):
And right now I'm in the processof getting my own nonprofit
started and that type of world. So I have a bunch of business
management experience in that front along with taking advice
and understanding like, hey, my decisions or my ideas are not
always the best ones. And sometimes it's best to, for
example, my experiences programming.

(01:03:35):
That being said, it's a lot moreRed Hat Security.
So I've had people like the Thinny, who's our lead
programmer, Amazing, amazing dude.
Huge shout out. And I've listened to his advice
and took it over my own thoughts.
Or when it comes to the art sidewhere I'm not as experienced, I
feel like being able to manage and lead things correctly is
also knowing when you're not knowledgeable and when to take

(01:03:58):
other people's advice. So I've had people like Art
Stand Meavers, huge shout out tohim, Chomper and a bunch of my
artists who they've given me their personal opinion and me
knowing they know. But more than I do there, I just
took it and I'm like, OK, if yousay that's what is the best, I'm
going to trust you and I'm goingto use the knowledge that you
have to best benefit the project.
It's awesome. That's awesome.

(01:04:19):
No, that's what it takes. That's what it takes, being able
to get influences from, you know, outside sources or you
know, part of your team inside sources other than your or, you
know, outside of your own ideas.You know, that's, that's great,
that's great, Mass produce says.Any plans on going?
Outside the WB universe to be determined.

(01:04:45):
Interesting. Very, very interesting I think.
That means dress. What the hell?
Wow. Turbo is always the guy that
will put. Words.
Into the person we're interviewing.
His mouth just for his own enjoyment.
I don't, I don't, I don't know. Why?
Maybe he's. Bored, we determine means
nothing of the. Sort, I got a question, I got a

(01:05:06):
question and I. Don't know if you, I don't,
you're probably not working on this particular character that
I'm talking about. But if you were to work on this
character, how would you make Voltron work?
Oh Jesus Christ, what the? Hell.
Iron. Giant, yeah.
Yeah, skin iron. Giant.
No, don't. Disrespect Voltron like that?

(01:05:26):
Leave. It there, that's how you would
do it. If he was in the game, I'd be.
Mad. And I was like, get you, get
your big ass out of here. There's no room.
It would just be a leg. Yeah, like get this.
Big ass dude up out of here. 5 characters.
It's pretty damn big too in comparison.
I shouldn't even be I know what they.
Try to do but he shouldn't be inthe game.

(01:05:46):
Man, it takes up too much damn fucking space.
Good movie, but you know you. Don't have to be.
Damn. There should be an alternate
skin with Vin Diesel's. Head stop What?
He voiced them. Diesel's head on iron.
Giant. Wow.
Just his head, that's it. Just his head.
That's right, he did, voice. Them.

(01:06:08):
Right, it's about. Family.
No. Oh, no, no.
It's too much, man. All right.
Sorry all. Right.
Who else got one? Let me.
See someone else don't want I got.
One that I'll throw in after thenext question, OK.
I mean, there was something you mentioned before about the.
Ranking system and I'm not sure if it answered my question in

(01:06:28):
regards to it, but I'll ask hopefully it doesn't sound
repetitive. But yeah, the ranking system,
the issue that we had with the one prior was it would restart
every every season. Do you are you guys going to
follow the same format with the the diamond, the platinum, the
diamond and all that? Are you going to kind of have
your own little spin on it? The goal for?

(01:06:51):
NBS Infinite as a whole and. This includes the ranking system
is using what the developers, the team Multiverses and Wonder
Bros has built already and honoring that legacy, but also
building something new upon it and it trying to improve it in a
way that the fans love and things like that.
So we're trying to find the bestmix of using what's already

(01:07:13):
there, honoring what they have, and trying to implement our own
twist out of our love for what they've built.
Awesome. It should be like a.
Legacy thing that keeps. Everything as far as your
ranking and then like a weekly or whatever monthly for separate
online stuff. Yeah, the the way I was thinking
I was. Like, you know, I don't.
Mind it like keeping stats for the season, but like kind of

(01:07:35):
have a, you know, the whole timethat you've been playing like
they have a bracket. Yeah, yeah, you can see who's in
the. Lead for the month.
Or who's in the lead for? The year well, you know they do
have to get rid of the cheaters so you're stuck up there and the
whole top 10 is like the the same people with the infinite
wins yeah, that's the reason they do it yeah, it's kind of
it's very tough to. I mean.

(01:07:55):
Especially when it comes to cheaters like in in fighting
games, it's so tough to, it's sohard to stop them.
They shouldn't take away your diamond rank though.
Like the rank. They shouldn't take away but the
like the the stats yeah that maybe should change, but you
should keep whatever whatever you had like as far as your like
your standing yeah because it. Doesn't matter.
If you see it like 100 diamonds,like it doesn't matter.

(01:08:18):
Yeah, it's if you see 100 diamonds and they're.
All the same character. There's a fucking problem.
There is a problem. Oh.
There's a hundred fins up. There Oh, I wonder why.
I wonder why I. Did see a?
Question in the chat about is there going to be?
Any type of anti cheat how you plan on how you plan on stopping
cheaters because it's on PC? By finding their location, yeah.

(01:08:40):
Finding their location and having of course.
So that is one thing that. The dev team has been talking
about extensively, well obviously we won't be able to
purchase or like buy an anti cheat to use in the game.
We are looking into ways to be like hey, don't cheat.
Like what? What can we do to prevent it and
be like in ways that we can punish cheaters without having?

(01:09:07):
Said tools that. Old multiverses had and things
along those lines. Just hire the mafia man.
That's. All see, I used to.
That's why I. Used to love.
Recording the matches in Smash. Brothers, because I would show
you how I got cheated. I'm like look at that.
Do you see that like like I justjust so you could see what

(01:09:28):
happened, Yeah. Or when we would record our
record our, our multi verses maniacs, the show that we do on
the channel. And they, this is before they,
Oh my God, it was hilarious. There was so many, so much wrong
with the hip boxes. I think it was season 3.
And yeah, they, they, they, there was a Morty who knocked me
out. And if you replay it that he did

(01:09:49):
not hit me like the hip box. The hip box was so bad.
I said, dude, look, I'm not evenfucking lying.
I got sent out by nothing, by the air.
He whipped. I'm like, this has to be fixed.
I was so angry. So mad.
Will you be able to play this onthe Steam Deck?
On the Steam app. On the Steam Deck.

(01:10:10):
A Steam Deck is. Pretty much just a portable.
PC So yeah, OK, Turbo has a PC. I don't have a steam deck
though. You don't have a steam.
Deck. That's another ten years.
I heard turbo has a modem too. 56 K 56 K Oh no.
What the Dreamcast? Oh God I remember that actually.

(01:10:32):
So slow. Hockey could you tell me you
sent? Me.
The the MVS backup tool demo, I can't put I can't put audio.
So if you could just walk us through, I'm going to play the
video here. Hold up.
Let me get that up. So pretty much we've.
Been working on developing a wayfor you to bring your data from

(01:10:53):
multiverses to NVS Infinite. That being said, this tool is
100% open source. Huge shout out to the thinny
notable modern and Warner Bros game scene.
He's the person who made and developed the Floyd Tracker for
Pink Floyd more recently. It's one of his notable
achievements, but he's a legend in the MK scene and he helps

(01:11:13):
develop this. A huge shout out on his So the
whole tool is linked on GitHub, which is attached to the Twitter
post instead of the and then inside of the Discord and all
that. 100% open source for you to look into and things like
that. So this is the online version.
This version is the alternative for if you can't access it on

(01:11:34):
console, but right now it's going to show you the actual
tool. So pretty much all this tool
does is it tells the system to copy the file and then it saves
the files in a different location.
Due to it being downloaded from GitHub in a license, it will go
through there. If you run it through something
like virus total or a malware checker, you'll see it's like 10
out of 70 and it's just 100% safe.

(01:11:56):
That being said, obviously do your own research, look into the
code if you are skeptical, and then this is for the console
side. So all you have to do is go to
your Warner Bros account and link it to your Steam and then
you just type in the password. It doesn't even have to be your
personal Steam, can be any Steamaccount.
And then you just verify it and it will give you a download and
then there is a zip you'll get the zip will have all of your

(01:12:18):
data regarding to multiverses. And if you want to look through
it, it's pretty fun thing to do.Just look through the Jason.
And then you at a later date will post a place for you guys
to drop off and send all of thisdata to us and we'll be able to
put you guys right inside of ourserver and start out right where
you left off. Nice.
That's dope. Dope.
Pretty cool. It's.

(01:12:38):
Nice, nice. Yeah, I should be able to
handle. That I should be.
You should be able to. That's not that's not bad.
That's not bad on your 56 K modem.
Yeah. You can go to the website that's
about it on your PC. On your PC.
Talking. Like a child.
Look, it's not, it's not, you know, it's not easy.
It's not easy for you. It's for everybody.

(01:12:59):
You know it's not easy. You also sent us a video with
the. The voice actors and everything.
Yeah, we recently posted it on the.
Twitter So this is just a littlebeast voice actor tease.
There will be more coming. Just some of the new lines
voiced by our new voice actors. Just a little showcase of some
of the stuff behind the scenes and what they've been working

(01:13:20):
on. Huge shout out to some of these
voice actors. This trailer is for Bob Carter.
Amazing person. Gons, Famnix, Gonzalez and
Potent Frog. Love working with all of them.
Some of my favorite people to talk to and it's been an amazing
time. Huge shout out to them.
Their impressions are amazing. Always entertaining to talk to
somebody who on the fly could just turn into Bugs Bunny or

(01:13:41):
something crazy like that. That's great.
That's great they're able to. Lend their talents and this is
all for the love of the game. Yeah, man.
You like to see that man, you like to see.
That how? Many how many characters still
don't have voice actors I. Would have to check.
There's a few. Some of the hardest roles to
recruit for are obviously femalevoice actors.

(01:14:04):
Not as many people to go to sadly, but there's a quite a
decent amount of the roles beingthat already filled.
We've been doing posts just kindof announcing some of these
voice actors. Let me see, inside of the court
there is a specific section thatlinks where you could just throw
in any of your voice acting auditions if you're interested

(01:14:27):
in our lead, Gonz Family Gonzalez, he goes through,
listens to them, and if he findsone that's really interested and
he'll shoot it to the team, we'll kind of talk about it and
all goes well. Then we'll shoot you Adm and
things like that. That could be The Powerpuff
Girls, yeah. You know that would.
Be amazing, I'm gonna see the list.
Of characters. It might, it might be, maybe I

(01:14:48):
could. Do like the hell are you gonna
voice the The Martian, dude? Marvin.
Marvin the Martian dude, send inyour recording.
The Martian. Dude, yeah.
We don't need your audition now,just.
Send in your recording. Now give it a shot right now.
No, no, no. One no, no please.
Please, the live audition man. Oh my God, come on.
Shamelessly. Plugging himself.

(01:15:10):
Oh my God. I can't deal, yeah.
For real pop up girls. I got this.
You. Don't want to?
You know, I would love to hear it.
I would love to. I got to let my.
Voice want like Aquaman doesn't look too.
Hard like his his lines. Oh, his lines are very easy for
sure. They'll see.
That shit's mad easy. I'm like that.
You should do that. Yeah, it's mad easy.

(01:15:31):
I'm like said that. List is available where.
Oh, it's in the side of the discord, so if you.
Go into our MVS Infinite Discordserver, there is a section
called Voice Actor Auditions. If you go in there, the first
thing is taking roles and you just create a new post and it
pretty much just you record a voice clip, we listen to it, we

(01:15:55):
talk about it, and then yeah, see what happens.
Nice. OK, cool, cool.
That's pretty cool. Sammy on chat might be there.
Let's see that's. Your voice in the game, yo I I.
I have so much like an old guy for you.
An old. Oh yes.
I could. I could definitely yo.
Is there an old decrepit man as a character?

(01:16:16):
Because I can, I can knock that out the park.
I was going to say Gandalf, but he's.
Not decrepit. He actually has life in him, you
know, like he sounds like he wakes up.
He might. Yeah, maybe.
But, you know, that wouldn't work.
The voice that I do is just too old.
It just wouldn't. Work run, you fools.
About the Wicked Witch, No, she's already done.

(01:16:37):
Wicked Witch is already. Done right, he didn't say.
Oh really? No.
Oh my. Pretty.
You see, that was. Amazing.
You didn't even, you didn't evensee that coming.
I got a lot of voices. I didn't tell you all about it.
That's what you get. Then the.
Hakio the. Ring outs.
They're coming back also, they're going to have AI never

(01:16:59):
got the I wanted to get that machete one with Jason, but it
was just too much money. And that money is now that money
is not a thing. It's going to be easier to
unlock the ring outs now, right?Oh yeah, money is not a thing.
Well. There will be some cosmetics.
That you. Unlock with playtime and things
like that. The amount of playtime required
and things like that will be waytoned down a bunch because

(01:17:23):
playtime is just playtime. There's no profit.
There's no money, there's nothing happening that way.
So yeah, the cosmetics that might have been removed or
things like that are all coming back.
Interesting. Oh I have a similar.
Question that I asked about. Robin OK, so if you're familiar
with the Maximilian Dude YouTubechannel, he brought up a point

(01:17:45):
before about if Neo was implemented in multiverses,
about what Neo would be used. Because in the first movie, you
know, he was doing the guns and the Kung Fu, but in the second
one he was kind of like Superman.
So if not saying guys, ladies and gentlemen, I'm not saying
Neo is in the game or he's even being worked on.
But if he did, if he was being worked on, how would you guys

(01:18:08):
tackle? What version would you use?
Skin him on the agent. That's once again just.
Case by case. An example would be maybe take a
little bit from both movies, maybe focus on one, focus on the
other, But it's a case by case scenario that the team will
decide when those times come anduse our best judgement along

(01:18:28):
with what the community says andthings like that.
If he was in the game, he's probably the easiest to.
Voice act for whoa yeah yeah yeah, there's.
Only like 3 words no? He's not John Wick.
That's the same guy. It's.
John John Wick is the same voice.
John Wicker, The same guy, Sir. I'm thinking I'm back.
Come to you. I can't.

(01:18:49):
Just give Superman. Sunglasses.
Just give Superman sunglasses. Superman, sunglass and a trench
coat and they'll give. Neil the Throw, yes.
And then you'd be a man. I'd be.
Like fuck, you'd be a man I'd be.
So upset. That would be just a taunt me.
Yeah, you'd be a great character.
I'd like let us know if there's anything that you'd like to.

(01:19:11):
Know any more questions you guysgot because we will throw them
up now yeah throw throw out yourquestions chat and also hit the.
Like button 'cause I see a bunchof y'all didn't hit it yet and
that offends me. True.
Offends me and if they said if they don't hear another.
Turbo joke they had like. Oh, where we go?
I can't promise that, though. I can't I.
Got a singer right? Now a hockey?
Oh God, jeez. Is there any like is there like

(01:19:35):
a projection that there's any gameplay to be shown off?
Gameplay will be started. To show.
Off most probably the way that we're planning on going about it
is a gameplay won't be shown offuntil the game closure.
This is to let multiverses that is still alive honor it.
Let the main focus be on them, let the game live out the rest

(01:19:56):
of its lifespan before we start fully promoting and fully going
into NVS Infinite. So post May 31st tends to be how
it will be is the first few playtests and things like that will
be private, will be locked in just for like the dev team, the
play testers and things like that.
But once a so say we just finished character one and then

(01:20:18):
we play tested them and then we're starting character 2,
that's around the time that we would start showing that
gameplay. So you guys will always just be
slightly behind. That way it gives us some
development room, gives us some space.
But gameplay footage and things like that will be coming in the
next few months and nearest future and.
You'll hear it here first. I'm.

(01:20:42):
Sorry, sorry multiverses. Needs to go off into the sunset.
1st That's fair, that's perfect sense.
What's that? May 20th is that is that when
it's. Last day is is it?
20th May 31st, 31st. Oh, that's when it's.
Officially oh this month. OK, Wow.
Wow, nice. Another one from.
Blitz curse, he says. How do you guys feel about
aerials floating above the ground with landing with them?

(01:21:03):
Says me personally I think they should be auto cancelled from
the air to the ground and only time that they should float is
when you lay in or in when you something.
Yeah. Yeah, we are.
Looking. Into.
The ground cancels and what specific moves and things along

(01:21:27):
those lines are going or what moves we should add grand
cancels to. If we should add ground cancels.
It's a balance. Should we play test it?
But it is definitely something we've looked into and are
discussing and are internally about to start play testing and
messing with to find the best route for every single move.
Interesting. Not bad, not bad.

(01:21:49):
Terrible. You got something?
Let me see something that's. Not nonsense.
No, see I got the. Ring out thing that's that's.
Yeah, Ring out. Yeah.
I did my little thing about Gameof Thrones to put the hit in
there for that Breaking Bad, Mortal Kombat.
I kind of got that in there. Those are my questions that
yeah, I got mostly Scorpion, Scorpion, you know, you guys
have to. And Raiden, they they have to be

(01:22:10):
made. They have.
I don't see the sense of blatantly.
Blatantly asking if someone's inthe game I I guess I was like, I
just, I'm I'm making a plea I. Like Scorpion Break, they got
someone in chat that we don't want to talk.
About You're not the person who's supposed.
To be. Doing the interview.
Questions like I am that guy in the chat.

(01:22:30):
Oh wow. Bro, I'm not him.
I'm blocking you in chat. Block right now.
Muting your mic now dude. Quick question.
Hakio when it comes to. Multiverses are there a lot of
is there a lot of like things with Smash Brothers that you
know, work in Smash Brothers that you think would work in
multiverses that haven't been implemented?

(01:22:51):
I know that the Shields have been tried and not executed
correctly, but is there a certain game flow or something
that they got working very tightand very good that multiverses
knees that you think looking at other platform?
Fighters like Smash Bros, like you make All Stars, like all of
these games that have been around a little bit longer than
multiverses and have a history to go off of, is one of the main

(01:23:11):
things that we started out our concept team doing is looking at
the past and see what we can learn from to build the future
of MVS and MVS Infinite. So things that we've looked
into, like I said earlier, are the ground or the land cancel
system, brawls, story mode. Amazing.
So we've looked into that. And just a bunch of these little

(01:23:32):
like more specific ones I won't completely get into.
But yeah, there's a lot of inspiration that we're looking
into other platform fighter games.
But at the end of the day, our goal is not to make Smash Bros
and play. Our goal isn't to make
Nickelodeon infinite, it's to make multiverses infinite.
So we our goal is to keep the multiverses identity and maybe
add some of these changes with amultiverses twist.

(01:23:53):
Nice, I take that. I think the number one thing of
multiverse is that really separates it from everything
else is I love the two V twos, man.
There's so much strategy involved in two V twos that is
just addicting. And it's just so fun and
different player combinations. Like I think on the channel, we,
we, me and Turbo play 2V twos a lot.
And to see Aquaman and Agent Smith as a team is is complete

(01:24:18):
nonsense. It's just you have dolphins
flying. Everywhere you have.
Guns being it's just the most it's on the screen right now.
It's the most chaotic nonsense, but it's beautiful at the same
time. Odd Couple.
Yeah, it's it's the complete oddcouple out of any team that we
pick. It's complete, complete
craziness. Is there is there any?
Character. That you use, that you are best

(01:24:41):
paired up with. One of my favorite.
Is I play with a player named fails quite a decent amount and
we enjoy like running Steven Rain dog or like it would be a
Wonder Woman, Raven, Wonder Woman.
So there's a bunch of fun cops or compositions there.
Gizmo, Raven, somethings like that.

(01:25:01):
Oh, I hate gizmo so much. I'm not.
Hockey, we have a another question.
From the chat from. Jayveon Williams, he wanted to
know, is there any way we can help with the production or
promoting the game once it's out?
Oh yeah, just word of mouth. Is one of the best way if you're
interested in anything production wise, always feel

(01:25:24):
free to like reach out to the team front using the server or
using the Discord, things along those lines.
So yeah, there's definitely wayslike if you have a skill set
that could be amazing or like you feel could help the team
with development and things likethat, feel free reach out and
you can do that way. Word of mouth is one of the best

(01:25:46):
ways to promote just things along those lines.
Awesome. Oh yes.
Anybody else? I don't know if I.
If I forgot. The answer, But did you say that
you like the beta? Speed better.
Better. I wouldn't say I'd.
Say they both have their own twist, their own things that I

(01:26:08):
love about them. That being said, I feel like
they both have improvements thatcould be made and I'm just
trying to make sure that we go about improving things in the
best way possible. And you saw, we saw.
See. That yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, cool. Terrible.
I see you. Typing no.
Yeah. How long do you see you?
Yourself supporting this projectlike I'm curious to see when do

(01:26:33):
you think do you have a end goalof how big you want to see the
roster and stages and features? How how long do you envision
yourself staying with this project?
Well, as the name. Kind of suggests.
It's multiverse is infinite. I feel like it can go as long as
we're able to and as long as people play and people have fun.

(01:26:53):
We'd love to encourage that and keep it going.
Yeah, nice. That's what the true fans of the
game want to. Hear yeah.
That's awesome, though, that it can live on.
It's awesome death. It's a it's a true comic book
death. Oh, come back.
Yeah, you can always come. Back that's true you can always
come back we. Have another question from the
chat? Yeah.
How do you guys feel about the shield breaker mechanic?

(01:27:14):
In my experience it's kind of inconsistent.
Have you all thought about universal grabs instead?
There's obviously with the. Implementation of Shields, that
is something that you begin to think about because in any type
of fighting game it tends to be block attack crap, right?
That tends to be the go to RPS system.
So it's 100% then something thatwe've started to look into and

(01:27:40):
make decisions relative to that.So yeah, it is definitely
something we've looked into. Whether or not that's the final
decision is always still going to be in the air to be
determined. But it is something we're
looking into improving and fixing up and making sure that
Shields and shield Breakers and how you go about it is built in
the best way possible. Nice.
OK. Well, there'll be special

(01:28:02):
events. Like seasonal?
Stuff I think Hablan this, the cable this.
There you go. Hey.
It's, by the way, thinkableness,thankfulness.
I thought you were. Having a stroke.
And Vince are something that we feel the community.
Loves and we'd definitely be interested in implementing first

(01:28:25):
event obviously launch, but likeas time goes on, maybe theme
seasons or like a spooky season or the holidays or things along
those lines. There's definitely a lot of
events and stuff we would want to do there.
Yeah, you don't have to give everybody heart pajamas for
Valentine's. Day.
Yeah, that's not needed. That's not.
Needed that shit got me mad, youknow it was.

(01:28:46):
Weird, I was like, why is? Superman all decked.
Out in pink for. But seems like a lot of work
that could have been moved. Somewhere else Blitz course
says. How do you guys feel about auto
techs? I feel like it takes away the
skill expression that other platform fighters have
personally. How about y'all?
Auto tech is another. One of those features.
Along the Shields that seems to be kind of a little bit rushed

(01:29:07):
and what we can see the love andthe passion they added it or
implemented it with. We want to take that and try to
improve it, whether that be through a button tech, whether
that be through removing it or editing it, still to be
determined. But it is one of those things
that we've been looking into to adjust to build and have the
best game play flow that we can.Yeah, I think that's when it

(01:29:28):
comes to auto tech. The Shields and stuff like that.
Cool ideas, but I don't think they were executed 100% because
everyone's. If you have a lot of.
People that are just looking. To exploit and spam.
They're going to keep making youchange quicker than you have
time for. So I felt like the team before

(01:29:50):
had a lot of oh shit, they figured it out again, oh shit,
they figured it out again and they were playing from behind
rather than fleshing out the idea.
But I mean, me personally, I I think it was OK, but it kind of
it felt like the bail from someone who's trying to be
cheap. But at the same time, I'd rather
do that myself. Kill yourself.

(01:30:11):
Yeah. So I can kind of see the flip
side of it. I agree.
Yeah, but all. Right.
Who else? Got me.
I'm good. You good?
I think I got all my burning questions.
Let. Me see.
Most of my burning, burning questions that can't be
answered. Let me see if I have any.
Left I think I got. Everything game modes, Superman

(01:30:32):
throw, I made sure I was very thorough if you're going to
learn. Anything from today, ladies?
And gentlemen. Is the Superman throw It's not
even a question. It's like this is.
Do you have any questions for Superman throw?
That's it with the question fromthe.
Chat, I know. They got some more.
Hold on. Yeah, definitely let me know.
If you need Gandalf. Voice.

(01:30:52):
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no letting you know.
You shall not. Pass.
Run, you fools. No.
You can. Tell him you're killing.
Me right, you can tell. Him if you need it, but he's.
He's not going to be a part. Yeah, he won't be a part Raffi.
Was asking are there any? Plans to make characters
interact more with the players in the menu.
There are a lot of scrap lines that show your character
starting to like you and becoming your best friend.

(01:31:13):
Really. I didn't even know that was
interesting. Definitely not something that we
have thought or put too much time into, but plus it or the
possibilities are infinite so you never know.
OK, not bad. And what a.
The user interface. Mushroom fusion says something
about. The Oh yeah, these.

(01:31:34):
Games with. Oh my bad.
NVS infinite. Being its own game.
And it or well, not its own game, but like being the next
phase of NVS, we are planning onimplementing some things to make
when you open up the game for the first time, it doesn't feel
like you're logging into NVS, you're logging into NVS

(01:31:54):
infinite. So there will be some UI changes
and things along those lines that we're planning to
implement. Cool, nice, awesome, sweet.
So we're going to actually have Bugs Bunny.
Smash the screen and. That would be pretty dope.
That would actually. Be pretty awesome.
We need that anime. Yeah, that would.
Be cool. Also, yeah, the plans with the
new. Stages, you guys have stages

(01:32:14):
planned and how you going to implement that?
Yeah, we stages is something that.
Obviously people love in platform fighters.
Adding competitive stages for the tournament scenes and then
stages with fun mechanics for the more casual scene is
definitely something we're interested in adding.
Whether that is similar to old multiverses where it's or or NVS

(01:32:35):
where it is a stage and then a character unrelated or whether
we're going to be like if we addGreg three, we add Greg Three's
house. Not a real character, just a
name that came up. But like whether it's associated
with the characters we're implementing or it's just its
own stage from the IP and from Warner Bros license characters

(01:32:57):
and things like that. Obviously there's no affiliation
is still to be determined. Can you make a stage where you
can only pop? Them out the top so they can't
run off the sides anymore. They Oh yeah, they had that and
a lot of those are. Smash, right?
I think it was some, maybe one or two.
Shadow Moses, I think. Was one of.
The Oh, they break the walls. Yeah, they break the walls.

(01:33:18):
Get out of the. Size.
Yeah, they only pop up at the top, so they can.
Get their ass whipped before they start wearing Yeah they.
Rack up the That'd be a cool. Stage Yeah, Hockey is taking
notes. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, oh, I have a quick question.Oh, might be a little far
fetched, but I always thought inSmash, I hate to keep bringing
up Smash Bros, but in Smash where they had and a lot of

(01:33:39):
people don't talk about it, theyhad the four V4, right?
And that was like kind, that wasa bit chaotic, but it was fun
though. It was very fun.
Do you guys have any plans or ever think of adding more than
two V2? Maybe a 3V3 or like something
that adds more characters on thescreen at once?

(01:34:00):
It's something we thought of. Whether it gets implemented or
not. Still to be determined, it is
very extensive. It is a lot of new programming,
a lot of additions that will need to be made if we do go that
route to be determined, just have to wait and see.
Iron Giant's going to have to leave that game.
He just. Takes up too much goddamn space.

(01:34:22):
Well, we got to say something. What about new items for casual?
Gameplay. Good question, Mike.
That's another. One of those Smash Bros
mechanics. That we've looked into, like
assist trophies, items from these characters, franchises,
things that are on those slides.Definitely something we're
interested in, but whether it isa addition we do or not, or when

(01:34:42):
it gets added, if it does, it's still all up in the air.
You know what always aggravated me was assist trophies.
Because cause the cause the the assist trophies sometimes would
be cooler than the characters. Yeah, like you have Alucarde
knuckles shadow, like why can't I use them Zero like, dude,
yeah, why are they assist trophies?
So that always pissed me off. Assist trophies.

(01:35:03):
Yeah, I'm like. Especially.
Alucarde, dude. Like, come on, man.
How do you not have Alucarde? Daniel wasn't the character.
Yeah, turn to a bat, fly back onthe.
Scene he had all the moves he did the miss the bat.
I was like, people jumped three.Yeah, yeah.
Have people jumped? You know that'd.
Be crazy. That'd be pretty cool.
Maybe in multiverses? Wow, we'll see if they work on

(01:35:25):
the Smash Brothers on the next Switch.
Hey, listen, we'll see. Watch them try to.
Incorporate 2V. Twos.
Like the right way. 3V3 be crazythough. 3V3 that'd be insane.
Oh God. I think 4V. 4 BK I like for this
game with all the but it's chaotic in Spanish but.
Yeah, if you pay it should be game it better be.
Chaos. Hey, shout out to Hazel.

(01:35:48):
Hey, Hazel, what's up? So, Hazel.
Hazel Web. Developer on the programming
team. You shut out.
Yeah, shout out. Shout out programming.
Team Superman. Throw just gonna throw it out.
Throw. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. My God.
Sorry. Good job.
I probably I probably. At least said at least. 10 times
already. I'm sorry, it's, it's the. 2

(01:36:10):
main things is it's not coming. Back, it's Lino and Superman.
You got to get. You got to.
Get good at the game. Just get good I am.
Good at the game, so if you havea.
Transform in the liner to do. The throw.
You'll be happy. Have lino too.
You'll be happy with the claw, with the claw.
But I won. The animation Hey Sir, we we
can. Compromise.
We can, we can we? Let it go.
That's all right. Let.
It go. That's the last time I

(01:36:30):
mentioned. On the podcast I'm.
Here right? Sorry, let's curse, got another
one. How do?
You guys feel about? The blast zone increase to
prevent cheese super early kills.
I feel like it's way easier to die in this game in comparison
to other platform fires. On some stages it is, but.
There are some stages where it's.
Not. No, no, no, go ahead.

(01:36:51):
When it. Comes to the.
Blast zones and. The touch of deaths and
multiverses, a lot of that is due to the blast zones are
really close. You don't have to travel that
far along with moose traveling very far.
Example is season 1 Jab Nair, Jab Nair Sayer with iron Giant.
That is like 4 moves but can take you from the left side of
the screen all the way to the right blast zone because of the

(01:37:12):
distance it travels and how close the blossoms are.
So it is something we'll look into when it comes to balancing
and maybe decreasing them or doing something similar to how
Smash Bros does it. Where if you are in to in like
the top of the blast zone, but you didn't take enough
knockback, then maybe you could sit there with like a little
marker showing your character orsomething along those lines of

(01:37:34):
finding the best way to balance the bass blastones while I'll
keep while still keeping the identity of MVS.
Can you take a? Them out the game.
Velma. Velma, don't miss that.
Multiverses has so many. Killable.
Characters. Like they get me so mad.

(01:37:57):
I told you every character. Every character.
So there's someone out there whoplays with that character.
Very annoying. Every character.
I mean Shaggy was good as a memeafter that.
You know, yeah, he's so, he's soannoying.
To fight. I hate that.
Motherfucker knowing is I can't stand Shaggy live.
Shaggy means they just do the. Kick, they want to do that.
Forward Luke Kane kick. Yeah.

(01:38:20):
So in your own game, can you have a mode?
Where you can edit your own character list so you can take
some out so you don't fight themonline.
You could only I can only fight 3.
Characters. Only.
Pair up with certain characters.That'll be a.
Good move. So the cheesiest characters in
the game. Say no, you ain't going.
To get no fights. You'll get.

(01:38:42):
Real fights then instead of the ones that spamming the whole
time. Oh.
My God, is there a? Character you hate the.
Most like with. Fighting in in multiverses
Sakio. Fighting Let.
Me think as of. Right now.

(01:39:04):
Definitely just a cutscene character like Marceline, Rick
and Powerpuff girls. It's always not very pleasant
when you get touched once and die for it.
I despise The Powerpuff Girls. With my soul, not them in.
General just them in. The game they get.
Me so mad because you could justhit buttons and win.

(01:39:27):
It gets me so. Mad, maybe I should start
playing. Again.
Yeah, exactly. You just want.
Wow. Wow, they're not trying.
To wow. See.
He wants the cheapest. Characters he.
Don't even want to like listen. I like game and watch like game.
And watch. Well, silicon game and watch.
Who's your? Smash main I'm a Rosalina Lima.

(01:39:49):
Player. I like puppet characters.
Rosalie. Rosalie is.
Yeah, that's one of those weird.Characters.
She got like the star and shit. Yeah, yeah, she's a problem.
She is. But I.
Like I like killing the star. In here and I go.
Does that make me sick like I like?
To see a. Little bit, little bit.
Like, fuck a little bit, Sir. Yeah, Marceline.

(01:40:10):
Elbow. Yeah, I.
I hate that, I hate that elbow. They spam the.
Fuck out of that. Oh my God.
Is there any specific? Moves from any characters that
you see are like, Oh yeah, that's overpowered.
We're gonna have to work on thatone.
A lot of my thoughts. Is moves.
Similar to Mercy there to where it is multiple hit boxes, but no

(01:40:33):
matter where you hit the move, how you space the move, or what
the move gets hit with, it always puts them in the perfect
spot to for the follow up. So altering some of those hit
boxes to where there's more variety is something that
definitely like if you hit the back hit, maybe you go back.
If you hit the front hit, maybe you go forward.
And then probably my least favorite move in the whole game

(01:40:53):
just because I'm friends with the best Gizmo Gizmo arrow.
It's never fun when you're over there doing your own thing and
cross map, get hit with an arrowand die because they full map
cobbled you. Oh man.
Have you ever thrown your controller?
Across the room. I spent too much on controllers.

(01:41:16):
Yeah, that's crazy. Like.
When you're an adult, I mean, I can't.
You throw a controller note without without flinching now
that you're an adult and you know how much controllers cost.
No, don't didn't they have like a thing you can buy is like
wrapped in? Bubble you put your hands in so
if you throw it you're good. I need to get that.
I'd be getting angry. Dude.
I just learned how to fix them, man.
You learn how to fix them. Yeah man Jesus Christ learn how

(01:41:39):
to fix the mixing trolls all thetime now when that shit snapped
in half. Actually.
Crazy Glues 1. Let me sign.
That oh I'm not sure do we go over this will any existing.
Characters receive new attacks. Oh, that's a good question.
I don't think we did. That's a good one.
I'm gonna buy the. Jeebs.
The Geebs Our goal, the Geebs iskeep move sets as true.

(01:42:01):
To their current move sets as itcan be.
That being said, it is a possibility, but it is not a
probability. It's the way I phrased it.
OK. And also?
Blitz cursor was asking how do you guys feel about adding more
instant air dodge moves or routes to the game?
It feels like that technique wasone of the most fun things to

(01:42:23):
learn in multiverses. IED's are a really cool little.
Way to do pretty much aerials grounded and it's definitely a
fun tech to have in the game. And we're looking into ways on
implementing more things like that.
Like how can we implement wave dashing in a viable way to where
you aren't going and burnout fortrying to be aggressive.

(01:42:43):
Or how can we maybe reward the player for doing a successful
IED and maybe punish them for doing an unsuccessful 1.
So when it comes to adding new tags and new movements, it's
definitely something I'm interested in.
Again, as a Rosa player, doing abunch of like advanced texts on
a character is something I enjoy, but not everybody might.
So maybe it being more characterspecific as an alternative.

(01:43:05):
But the more fine details of allof that is still to be
determined. But we are definitely interested
in adding more tech like that tothe game.
Interesting. OK.
That works all. Right.
What's the other? Question here.
How well made are the charactersyou're working?
On in terms of model and animation quality, part of the.

(01:43:27):
Reason. Characters have been that we've
been working on since day one are still in development is our
goal is to make it indistinguishable from which
characters came out in MVS and which characters came out in MVS
infinite. So we are putting all of the
time to make sure that you just can't tell that these characters
follow the multiverses art style, that they play like a

(01:43:50):
multiverses character, that their kids moves and all of that
follow into the zany, wacky playstyle of multiverses.
So, and I'd say we're doing a pretty good job at that right
now. As of right now, if you were to
show somebody our characters anda character that's been in
multiverses since day one, like Bugs Bunny, you ask them which
one was fan made and which one was it?

(01:44:11):
I'd say it would be pretty hard for them to decipher.
Nice. That's good.
Awesome. Mushroom fusion 24.
Five says are there any plans for super moves like final
smashes? It's simply something we've
looked. At Sorry to repeat.
That obviously coming into making this project, we did a
lot of research. Anybody on my concept team will

(01:44:33):
tell you for the first month, literally just had the month
straight research. I wanted them to understand the
internal, the external, the mechanics, platform finders and
things like that. So obviously discussion around
final smashes came up. Well, it is something that is
interesting and a possibility. As of right now, it's not
something that we're dedicating a lot of time to due to the
animation like time that it takes, the amount of different

(01:44:58):
things we have to implement, having to add it to the workflow
for every new character. So, well, it's something we're
interested in and there's a possibility in the future.
As of right now, it's not in ourcurrent plans.
OK, sweet. Yeah, I.
Remember in like Smash? Ultimate they're.
Cool to look at, but like, how often do we really switch?
We I never, we never use the items.
Yeah, never. Use We always have items often.
My daughter loves playing with the with the final Smash and.

(01:45:20):
She loves them, but other than that, I haven't really.
You know, when you play competitively against people, I
hate it when they put the Smash Brawl in there.
Yeah, me too is. That your real voice.
Where is the Twitter here? Where is it?
Where? Is the transforming?
Yeah, his voice changes right now.
Something was like curling. I was like, I felt it and.
I couldn't. I couldn't fight it.
It was like that, Bubble said. He said.

(01:45:42):
My daughter uses. Put it on.
What the fuck he? Doesn't.
Even mean he would think that was me he.
Turned to Yoda, He. Turned to Yoda, where?
Does your daughter think about no, Don't do that.
Don't do that or do that all right.
You're done. Thank you.
Yoda. If you guys bring.
In Yoda, I'll try to do a. That's Disney, we went.
That's Disney. We went.

(01:46:02):
Over the perk system, right? Yeah, I think we went over Perk.
He's gonna try to fix it. Yeah, I think OK.
Yeah, he's. Gonna try to fix it.
Let's see a tweak the perk system.
A223 says. Please change.
Steve Stevens dash animation. Kiki does his horrible.
We better if he did a charge inside his bubble.

(01:46:23):
Definitely a cool. Idea and team will take it into.
Consideration I love killing Steve.
I love killing Steve. He's like my top three character
to kill. I love killing Steve.
Interesting. Yeah, that's something.
About. Him, he just looks like a creep.
He does the child. Steve, Steve, you.
It looks like a creep. Looks like he hides in bushes.
And just a good stop. What the Hell's I'm sorry?

(01:46:46):
Come. On Sorry, Jesus, Sorry.
Yeah, don't. Finish that sentence, Steven
Universe. Don't.
Don't finish that. Sentence.
I know I left that sentence alone.
Don't somebody in this the chat?Said Goku when Yo Goku's
requested. In every platform pretty much.

(01:47:07):
He would kill everyone he's requested in every game, period.
Yeah. What?
The Superman Goku fight? But you know what?
Then people are gonna get mad when Goku.
Loses to Thelma like like then yeah, they're like, this game
isn't real. Yeah, no kidding.
It's based on a bunch of cartoons.
I don't know why you think it was real.
Goku versus Superman would be nice.
If you did. Yeah.

(01:47:27):
Hockey What are the the? Top 3 characters that get
requested from the community. Oh.
I'd. Say, off of my knowledge, I've
seen a lot of daffy. Yeah, Daffy.
I'll throw in a. Very niche 1.
But four different people simultaneously requested it Some

(01:47:48):
reason, Waluigi. That's a.
Weird one over. Everybody just.
Waluigi. Wow, wow.
I respect. It I.
Respect it. Wow.
I'd say the. JLI.
Members are. Very highly.
Requested so like the Flash Marsh and Manhunter Green

(01:48:09):
Lantern, and then there's some from Spinel.
I know that's one that I've heard a lot of requests for.
Walter White did. Yeah, while he.
Carried. I'm pretty sure he's Sony.
If I'm not. Mistaken.
Walter White. He saw me.
Oh, Harry. Potter, that's another pretty
happy. Yes.

(01:48:30):
Oh yeah, Harry Potter. I was.
So surprised he didn't make it. I'm.
Surprised. Yeah, Yeah.
A top selling. Game of the couple of years that
he didn't. Put them in there.
You're a wizard, Harry. There's probably 1,000,001
reasons. Why it didn't?
Happen and I'm pretty sure it was out of their hands.
Yeah yeah. Chat saying Godzilla I see
Godzilla modded man monster purse Scooby Scooby.
Doo Godzilla. Daphne Yeah, there's there's

(01:48:55):
always a bunch of them. I mean, I get names for Dave.
I mean just. Just from.
DC and every and everyone works.Everyone from like Dark Side,
Flash, Green Lantern, Green Arrow, you know, like they all
work. Yeah, they all work.
Got to be most requested. Ben 10 is Ben 10.
Ben, 10, would. Be so probably.
The most Ben 10. Would be so.

(01:49:17):
Difficult to make. You know what The thing is?
I know you know. Probably because I'm showing my
age. But I know nothing.
About Ben 10 but he is requestedall the time.
All right. Well, Ben 10, he can.
Literally turn into when he first starts out.
He can turn into like 10 different monsters.
I know I don't care about him. He's like, that wasn't an

(01:49:40):
invite. Explain.
What are you They were like. Do you want Beast Boy?
Or Ben 10. Beast Boy.
Beast Boy. Joke is like God.
Damn it, I hate you so much. I was waiting.
For Dexter, so. More so long.
People were dying for Dexter, for Dexter so long.
I remember people. Used to say Fred Flintstone.

(01:50:02):
Yeah, he was. He was.
That would be for, oh, Space Barbie Antabar.
Barry's not. Is that Is that WB?
I think space ghost with fire space ghost.
Should be. Just Batman reskin.
Stop. Wow, wow, wow.
What the hell? Sir.
He need to talk. Jonny Quest and Haji would be.
Fun, hey? Dude if he just sat if space

(01:50:24):
goes to. Sat at a desk and just had
everything. He's at a desk the entire time.
The whole. Time he'll just have things hit
you. That'll be a dope stage.
That'll be a dope. Stage, or at least having a
background. Oh my God, Captain.
Caveman go real old. Old.
That'd be crazy. Someone said how many total
characters have. Appeared in the request sheet

(01:50:45):
all of them think. From the original one were.
Between 5:00 to 6700, somewhere in that round.
Oh God, I couldn't even think. Of that many, to be honest.
You would have to work on a different characters.
Oh, that's. So many character requests.
My bad. Yeah, different characters.
That's around like 80. That's a lot.

(01:51:06):
That is a lot. That is a.
Lot, to be honest, I couldn't think of 80.
There's there's no way. That's pretty much I was
thinking. I was thinking about the other.
Day like how many? Characters would I like to see
it gets to like maybe 20 maybe certain characters deserve they
supposed to be in a game like. Yeah, yeah, right.
Like a Green Lantern, they're supposed.
To be in a game like. This.
Yeah. No, this is because of the move.
This is Green Lantern's game. This is.

(01:51:27):
The Green Lantern's game should be the main character.
Yeah, it's made for multiverses.Yeah, he's made for the fucking.
Game he really is. He's WB's Kirby, yeah.
WB. 'S Kirby.
He does anything. Oh that's a good question cuz I
keep thinking of it too. Is there a way to get Teenage
Mutant Ninja Turtles as well through second party?

(01:51:49):
They're in everything. Wow.
They legit are everything are in.
Everything Possibility, not probability.
You know what's weird about Nickelodeon?
They had like what was. It they had two in the first one
and the other two in the second one, but all four of them not in
one game. Yeah, that doesn't make sense.
If you stack both this if you. Stack.

(01:52:09):
One, now Sonica Knuckles, worked.
No, put them together. That was weird.
Yeah, that was very weird. Very dumb but get like the 19.
89 movie. Versions.
That'd be crazy. I saw that the other day.
The actual. Actual puppets?
Did your Henson nod the faces? Not the puppets.
Yeah. Jim Henson freaking Part 3,

(01:52:34):
right? It's like 3.
Rotting face? That's terrible.
They've been animated. There we go, freckles by the
turds of freckles. I.
Can't. They were just guitars, They
were just masks. They just.
Wore masks they. Went on tour, man live tour.
Oh God. I cannot deal someone.
Said Green Goblin and Homelander.
What Green Goblin? Funny, it's naming people.

(01:52:56):
Yeah, yeah. You know what's always funny
about? These these type of games.
And you know, the the speculation for characters, they
always will go outside where there's no way in hell they can
get in. Yeah, of course, you know, So
from yeah, it's like Marvel. Marvel.
Yeah, Waluigi. Like how is that going to
happen? Cease.
And assist, I mean, he's he actually a Nintendo character,
They don't use them. Even Marvel characters I don't

(01:53:18):
think would be a. Good I.
Don't want to see the mix up with.
No, I like it where it is. Yeah, I like it where it is.
Yeah, if you're going to do Marvel, do it in the separate
Marvel game. But they actually did the Mortal
Kombat and WB. Characters like they did, they
did PC versus Mortal Kombat, yeah.
Yeah, they did that, yeah. So let's say that.
We didn't see right Mortal Kombat.
Works. Is he rating?
You just fly back into the. Stage he has to have that old

(01:53:39):
voice when he. Goes like that shit is the stage
like that would be dope so. Yeah, it didn't happen.
Crazy. Or when he says I'm gonna throw
you over here. Yes.
I'm. Gonna throw you over now, I'm
gonna tell. You that I'll.
Throw you down like. What?
No one questioned what they weresaying.
No. I'll do the voice.

(01:54:00):
Acting for that, yeah, I get that going.
I get that one going. I'm gonna throw you into the
air. That's a.
Terrible. That's just what they say.
I'll tell you into the air. It's.
Screaming. Listen to.
Mortal Kombat 4 sounds. And you'll hear it.
Oh yeah, quite a treat, I see. Some more questions here are
you? Working on any new characters
right now, yes, he said. Something he said.

(01:54:21):
Yes. Yes, as he's.
Doing this podcast. He's you could hear the typing.
You hear the typing? He's working right now.
He's not taking a break, man. Skype What's the?
Timeline. On a characters like.
Beginning to end creation wise, it's very.
Variable So a lot of it depends.Like OK, what can we use?

(01:54:43):
Like for example, if we're making a character that uses a
mallet, that we can take the Harley mallet and rescan it
instead of creating a new one. But if we're creating a
character that uses bow that's not in the game yet, you have to
create it from scratch. And then you have the play
testing phase. So sometimes we come up with a
move, we animate the move, we build the move, we put it into

(01:55:04):
the game and we're like, whoa, what were we thinking?
So we have to go redo it. And it's it's very variable.
It can be extremely short, like if we're using a lot of stuff
that we've already had Bill or things like that, probably like
a month to three. If like play testing is
extensive and things like that. It could be, it could be a

(01:55:25):
decent amount of time, but we plan to have multiple characters
ready to go that aren't releasedon release, OK.
Oh, that's good one. Wait one second.
I got to take a bathroom break. Y'all right back.
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(01:58:19):
There's a question I. Want to ask?
So we before it, before it goes away.
All right, here we go. And I'm tired of turbo rambling.
We're back. Yeah, Someone in the chat says,
will we be able to switch characters in the middle of a
ranked set? Well, good question.
That is. Something we have also.

(01:58:41):
It's not started to sound like abroken record.
Looked into it is something I'm definitely interested in
implementing. A big part of competitive games
is counter picking. As much as it sucks, it is part
of it. It is part of like it will
happen in a tournament and things like that.
So yeah, definitely something I want to add.
Whether that's now or whether that's later on in the game's

(01:59:02):
lifespan, definitely something we're interested in.
OK, I'm a piggyback off for thattoo.
Because this is something I'm personally interested in.
I, I like it personally when I have like one round with
somebody, beat them and get somepoints.
I don't want to get points afterthe full match.
Sometimes I just want to beat someone's ass one round.
You know it is. Are you going to implement that

(01:59:22):
type of thing? Are you going to encourage the
whole match? What mice must be fought in
order to get points? The I stated earlier, the minor
details and like the more specific of the ranked system
and how it will play. Still being looked at, still
going to be edited and looked into.
So as of right now, I don't really know.
Still to be determined. There's a possibility, no, but

(01:59:44):
what do you want to do? What is your preference?
I like set based. I like Bo.
Three DO 5 type sets. Damn.
Best of three for ranked and then you're doing something like
a money match. Always best of five or first of
10? Best of five.
Turbo likes to win and run. I do, yeah.
No, when I when I. Play ranked on Street Fighter
Six. You know they want to do the
rematch. I say no, I beat you.

(02:00:05):
I'm done. Wow, hit him.
I hit him and quit him. If they quit.
In the middle of your set what? Do you still get your points?
I'm saying if they quit in a million percent, do you get any
points? No, that's what you need to
change. Yeah, cuz.
Yeah, somebody. Beat us the 1st.
Round we want to rematch them but they I think they might have
hit concede and we got points for them quitting yeah that's

(02:00:25):
what should happen yeah that's that should happen yeah that's
good that's good yeah that's I like that I.
Like that. But wait, someone had something
that was pretty good? Oh when it comes to character
inclusions, if y'all can't find a voice actor and would that
determine if or if not a character gets in?
Do y'all only work on charactersif you already have a voice
actor lined up? Good question.

(02:00:46):
No the. Voice acting.
Is like after the characters decided we're fortunate enough
to have voice actors like PO andFrog Guns fam Brock Baker, who
are men of 1000 voices. So there's a lot of variety
there and it's always we would rather choose the character
first, find the voice actor 2nd,and not let the availability of

(02:01:07):
a voice actor hold it worst caseif we need.
I feel like the talent and the scale on our voice acting team
as we speak has the ability to learn voices to fit some of
these roles. And a lot of these, they, a lot
of them have voices for characters that aren't in the
game. That would be amazing additions
that people request. Are you doing any voice acting?

(02:01:28):
Me, that is. Not.
I I applaud them. I.
Love what they do. I cannot replicate it, no no
Hakio announcer packs. Guest Announcement Guest.
Announcement would rather not. Traumatize.
People that would be amazing. That's.

(02:01:52):
Funny. Let's see.
Says Hakio mentioned. Earlier that per currency was
going to be removed. Will the gold currency from the
beta return whether it's called gold or something?
Are under a different name. The concept of gold will return
currency that you win through orearn through playing the
game-winning matches, doing things like that.

(02:02:12):
We are definitely planning on implementing it.
Nice names. Characters like Popeye.
Or Felix. The cat, Oh Felix Cat Popeye you
can use. Them.
Actually, what was the other one?
It was Steamboat Willy, right? Steamboat Willy?
Yeah. Steamboat Willy.
Wow. They're.
Free to use Steamboat. Willy.

(02:02:34):
That's funny. Public domain characters are
definitely more. On the table than any other like
type of third party just becausethey're public domain.
Of course, I made a joke about somebody on my team was like who
is confirmed or like who is available?
And it's like, give it enough time, everybody.

(02:02:54):
So true. I mean, yeah, pretty much. 300
years later, yeah yeah 1. 150 years.
I mean, it'll happen. Someones.
Gonna be available. Where's Woody Woodpecker?
Yeah, Chilly. Where's Chilly Willy?
Yeah. They gotta be close, man.
They gotta be close. Man, Chilly.
No one knows those guys. No, not at all.

(02:03:14):
Showing our age real. Real, real well there.
Droopy the doll. Droopy.
Wow. Who's the ones that Oh no, not.
That's Droopy, not the game. You give me the voice.
You. Can be I'll be I'll.
Be the voice. With your phone, boy.
Not the game. But that's all I.
Can say. I can't say anything else, I

(02:03:34):
just keep. Repeating by saying are there.
Any new voice actors in the? Servers that you have your eyes
on. I feel like that was answered.
Was it? Yeah, I think.
Did I just say that? No, I.
Think you just. Answered that I'd say I.
Only had two. I only had two beers.
It's possible. I mean inside of the auditions.

(02:03:56):
Tab inside of the server? Yeah, there's a few.
OK, what is that you get? Are you getting support?
From former player first game developers to understand the
game's codes and programming or are you learning as you go or
changing things? A lot of it is.
Just trial and error. And just going through and using
what we have to basically find the best solution.

(02:04:18):
Nice, nice. It's not bad all.
Right, not bad. So Chad listen got to a lot of.
Your questions? We did.
Oh yeah. Hopefully, hopefully you got
all. The answers you.
Needed. I know you didn't, but hopefully
enough has been answered for y'all.
And if y'all want him to come back?
On Let us know you know we'll harass him that sounds.

(02:04:42):
So terrible, right? Well, that sounds real bad.
We got him locked up. In the basement.
If he says no, we'll give him the kids.
I'm just. Kidnapping.
Make him say yes. Any character.
You want We'll make it happen. Yeah.

(02:05:04):
Yeah. Like good release until you
finish the guy. I know it's not made yet.
Superman grabs. Coming yo, Superman.
Crap. Yo, you know what's funny?
If. That if that.
Actually did. Happen.
We'd have him back on and I would just scream the entire
podcast. Wow.
And you probably I can't even listen.
To it I would just be. Screaming I would have to mute

(02:05:25):
your mic the whole podcast. You'd want the whole podcast to
be just to. Get that throwback?
Yep, and there'll. Be highlights of him doing the
throw. Constantly.
That's what I would say. Jesus Christ Trust.
Me. Well.
I think that's. All we got.
Right. Yeah, That's all we got, right?
That's everything, man. Yeah.
All right, well, Akio, we definitely appreciate you for
coming through and thank you foryour time.

(02:05:47):
Of course, man. And obviously, even though I
joke around about, but I'm dead serious.
If you do want to come back on the show to announce anything,
let me know and we'll find a dayfor you to have your back on and
we'll do it all again. Yeah, man.
Oh, yeah. Had an amazing time definitely.
Something I'm interested. In yeah, I appreciate you man.
Thank you so much. Thank you.
Thank. You much is ours.
Be good, brother. You as well.

(02:06:10):
Thank you later and. Everyone in the chat.
You heard it here. First multiverses infinite all
the news any questions that you had.
I know obviously we didn't get to everything, but we got to two
hours worth yes, of of questionsand yeah, we we would love to
have him back on when he has some more things to to show us.

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So, yeah, you know, we're going to, we're going to keep showing
more footage of it. Yes, we're going to keep that
more footage. Closely, very closely so.
Let's announce the. The Weekly.
Indie game of the week and also shout out to the programmers.
And people who are on the multi versus infinite team who are in
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I heard yes thank you for your efforts and keeping the dream

(02:07:13):
alive yes keeping this good thing going absolutely and a
big. To everybody in the chat.
Yep, you. Guys are awesome.
Hell yes. So here we go.
All right, the Indie game of theweek.
Everybody let's. Go indie game What is the indie
game of the week? It's a good question, I don't
know. Well, I don't know.
I don't know either. You guys know, let me sign on.

(02:07:37):
Bro indie game of the. Week is damaged in.
Transit. Hell yeah, I remember the pain.
Tell. Us, the body.
Tell us the body I. Remember the this game?
Released March 23rd, 2020. Developed and published by Ever
Rook LLC available on Windows, Mac OS and Nintendo Switch.

(02:07:59):
Stallion and LG are going to tell you about that game.
Oh yeah, Oh yeah, Oh yeah. We shout out to the developers.
That came on the podcast talkingabout the game.
They were very entertained by USplaying this game.
And yeah, I'm not a puzzle guy. Yeah, I'm not AI know algae is I
love puzzles, but this is this was rough.
It's always difficult when you're playing a Co-op puzzle

(02:08:23):
game because I can handle the puzzle.
But then when you're working with a Co-op partner, it just
adds a new layer of difficulty. You're just like and this was by
far one of the toughest games. That I've ever.
Played. We did.
Co-op, I think I. Think every 25 stages there was
a boss. It's the same boss, but you just
have to. But we did 25 stages and it felt

(02:08:45):
like we beat the fucking game. We did a three hour, It was 3
hours and I think we spent more time on the last boss battle.
It was, we had a whole stream onthat.
We had two live mental breakdowns.
Yeah, pretty much it was. Messed up.
But it was rewarding when we finally yes, Oh my gosh, that's
the one thing I love about puzzle games is like, as tough
as it is, when you figure it outand you would make it through,

(02:09:08):
it's one of the most rewarding things.
And this game, this game does it.
This game does it. Yep.
And then you look back, you're like, how the hell did I do
that? It's so it's very creative,
though. But yeah, the brain it takes to
create these stages and you know, the traps and all that
stuff, it's very fucking creative.
I just have a small brain and I can't be like, no, I can't.

(02:09:29):
Oh no. There are times when you just
like, you just, you just shut, your brain shuts off.
You're just like, I can't, yeah,put the hell too much going on.
And then you turn it off and you're like, alright, you guys
made your point. I wonder if they were inspired
by Choo Choo Rocket at all. Well, the way the way it plays.
If I could describe it for the audio listeners, it's when
you're playing a Co-op so the first player can go.

(02:09:51):
Just all your it's. Just two buttons, it's up and
down and then the second player can go left.
And right. And you're controlling the
arrows on the screen, on the on the on the board that that
direct where the characters are moving.
You're trying to make these two robots go to the exit.
That's it. That's that's the goal of the
whole game. You're trying to get to the
exit. Now, if you push the arrow like

(02:10:13):
overboard, it's going to the characters going to go right
into the water. Yeah.
Like, like you see there and yeah, it's like a, it really is
like juggling, but like jugglingwith a partner, it's freaking Oh
my God. But as you hit, as you hit the
button to go left to right, it also initiates the traps.
Yeah, you have to time the trapsand time the left and the right
and communicate with your partner when he's hitting up and

(02:10:33):
down. And every 3 or 4 stages they
introduce like a new, a new trapand a new like element.
Complete brain tease. No, it's your brain.
Yeah, it. Hurts.
Brain, don't you know somebody? Out there is playing this with
their feet both, yeah. Both players now this is one of
those it's rage games, man. This is what it.
Really is. And it's enjoyable watching
other people play, like other people's play through.

(02:10:55):
And I like the music. The music was very cool.
Yes. That's what kept me playing.
Yeah. It's always the music.
The music always fucking gets. It's like relaxing.
You're like, all right, hey, man, check it out.
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Yeah, also appreciate all the love in the chat.
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That's right, we just need to announce the the game.
Giveaway winner? Yeah, my favorite part.

(02:11:40):
Of the podcast, it's hockey. Oh, no, no.
Oh. God who?
Congratulations, Clutch. Nine, you are the April 2025
winner. Well, the lovely 57 mobile game

(02:12:00):
giveaway Hell yeah, it's clutch 9.
You did it in a clutch. Oh my God.
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Clutch time. It's clutch time.
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You're right over. This time, congratulations.
Congratulations. We'll get in touch with you soon

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and. You figure out.
Which game you're going to yet? Yes, and this could be any of
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At home listening. Yeah, yeah.
We got. Codes for you know.
PlayStation, Xbox, Steam and Switch.
So yeah, Clutch 9 will be getting in touch real soon.
Yeah, real soon, Yeah. And we're going to let you know

(02:12:45):
on social media what clutch the Line 9 picked.
Clutch line. Whoa, you're right.
You're right, no. It's a lisp, I'm sorry he's on.
He's losing it. He's.
Losing it, he's lost a long time.
Ago clutch time boy, but. Clutch 9 But yes, we're going to
look into those characters and. Hockey Ho said he was hinting at

(02:13:06):
multiple characters. We got to look up 8 times, dude.
Yeah, he said it was. You gotta know.
He said it was obvious. We gotta.
Know yeah I gotta look at that I'm.
Like, I gotta look at that. I.
Saw Animaniacs thing. I saw pinky in the brain in the
background. I saw those two balloons in the
back. Yeah.
So I mean, that's that's the. Only thing I can see so it might
it could be. That I don't mean it ain't in
the game. So yeah, we don't know.

(02:13:26):
I'm exciting. I'm.
Excited that you know multiverses gets to go on in
some form. You know it should not die.
It sucks for it to be taken offline like that.
Man I didn't know this team was so big.
That's a big team to. Continue 80.
People. That's beautiful.
It only took thirty people to make.
Exhibition 33 And those are that's passion, right?

(02:13:48):
There 8080 people. Not getting paid.
They're doing it out of passion.They want this to succeed.
Yeah, that's awesome. Can't wait to play I.
Applaud. That yeah, can't wait for the
revealed trailer and all that stuff whenever.
It's announced cuz it's not announced.
Nope, not yet. Not yet, not yet.
You know what? I would like to do a react like
a live reaction. To that man.
I will talk to hockey. Hopefully we can get that to

(02:14:08):
happen. We can make it happen.
If he says no, then it'll never come out.
I'm done. I'm kidding.
I'm kidding. I'm wow, Sir.
Yo. If they started off with.
The Superman throw. And then it's like, then it's
like, we'll not be in the game. That would be like you.

(02:14:29):
You told me on purpose. You told me on.
I kind of hope they're doing that.
That would be. Crazy.
You're like, yo the Superman. Throw.
You see him throwing. Everywhere.
That's hilarious. Yeah.
Hazel, looking forward to seeingwhat you guys come up with.
It sounds like you got a bunch of talented, passionate people.
Yeah, on that squad. And I'm excited, man.
See. Much Love you.
Very sorry. We're all very excited.
Because we love. Multiverses and yeah, man, pass

(02:14:52):
of the torch, that's what I consider it.
Passing of the torch. That's right, keeping a good
thing. Alive and if you guys are
checking. Out the podcast for the very
first time and you just decided that you can't get enough of
level 857. That's okay, that's OK, because
we got MO Folia in the form of astreaming schedule.

(02:15:12):
Yeah, we got more content other than the podcast, so let me run
that down for you. Sundays.
Let's play Sundays. Sensational Sundays.
Sensational. Sundays, right?
I can't. Let's play Sundays.
That's multiplayer games, guys. It's either going to be some

(02:15:33):
Co-op or versus variety. Usually starting at 3:30 PM.
Some start, sometimes we start alittle earlier.
So follow us in social media to find out what we're going to
play next. You know, if it's versus, maybe
you guys could join us. We'll get a little thing going
that way. But yeah, join the Discord,
follow social media to find out what we're going to be playing
for that Sunday. Chuck, what you got going on for
Fridays? I got Fighter Fridays 9:00 PM

(02:15:55):
every Friday. And I play fighting games.
I play beat em UPS this Friday. I hope you all ready to throw
hands. I'm throwing Street Fighter 6
back on the channel. Come get it Reggie.
Come get it Reggie. Play scary games too.
No, I. Don't we got.
We gotta get. That popping, we gotta get that.
Problem negative No Friday. Right.
Yeah. Renting, right?

(02:16:15):
Now. Yeah.
Exactly. Yeah, but yeah.
Fighter Friday at 9:00 PM. You stand the time every Friday.
Hell yes, hell yes. So yeah, it's going to be St.
Friday at six y'all so if any ofy'all playing I come through get
your ass. What?
Wow. Or maybe whip my ass.
I'm just. Saying you keep.
That's fine, but I just I'm looking for a challenge.

(02:16:35):
We're looking for a good fight, makes for a good stream.
So if you got the skills and yougot the will come through with
your stack of bills, Oh my God, you.
Know. Fighting is branded no.
Frills we got. Wednesday.
Wednesday, 7:30 PM. Eastern Standard Time, we got
the. Podcast, y'all, that's all five
of us doing our collab, hosting one of the only podcasts online

(02:16:58):
that do it. It's like a panel, OK?
We don't always agree. We go at each other.
It's kind of funny. You never know who's going to
have what opinion. It's crazy.
We got y'all coming in there as a live chat, making this thing a
party. So come through with your
drinks. We.
Might have a couple of shots, dosome celebrations, chat about
some recent news topics and it'sgoing to be crazy.
So yeah, come through for all ofthat.

(02:17:20):
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(02:17:40):
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All that free stuff is great too.
So the love shows some love. We show love back.
We keep the circle going. That is correct.
That's the only time. It ever and it never gets cut

(02:18:02):
off. Cut off that's the only time it.
Ever gets cut off? Oh yes.
Thanks to all y'all. Showing up.
Thank you guys for coming through.
We appreciate y'all fun times. Fun times.
Shout out to Hakio. And the entire.
Multiverse is infinite team for doing what you do.
Shout out to player first games.For.
Conceptualizing this amazing platform fighter for all of us

(02:18:24):
to play and have crazy memories with.
Pulling a bat bomb on somebody, go out the top of the screen,
it's lovely. I love that.
Next week. I love that shit.
Yes, be able to see. Y'all next week?
Yeah, next week's. Podcast is going to be dope.
Oh yeah, I can't wait. As always.
Oh yeah, I get to hug your parents.
Y'all hug your? Parents.

(02:18:45):
Oh yeah man. Peace out, everybody.

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