Our Ultimate First Party Mascot Ranked Tier List!

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man. Jesus Christ, too hot for that,
but I had to. Welcome to the show guys on this
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Bringing over that small fan. It's hot everywhere.
It's hot everywhere though. Yeah, I was like, it's actually
hot everywhere. Very hot for.
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Here got up to the 90s it was a buck O 8 when I was when I was
driving home according to my in my car.
I feel bad for people in their 90s who was walking out to that
Jesus. You know, the worst thing is
getting in your car. Oh yeah, something.
Yeah, it's. Gross.
Yep, Yep. Then you.
Got to wait for the air. Like dude, I can't do this.
You have leather seats in your car.

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Fake. That's even worse.
I should melts to your fucking skin.
You're like. I doubt that's real.
If you wear shorts, you wear shorts in the car.
I did that once. I was like.
Terrible. Horrible.
Nah. It's about family.
We're still, we're still settingup here.
We're melting. That's.

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Good. So how's everyone doing on this?
Fine Wednesday evening are. We all right?
Make sure you're drinking that beverage.
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All right, man, let's start off with the The Indie Game of the

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Week, y'all? Hell yeah, man, Hell yeah.
Let's start off with the Indie Game of the Week.
And it is. Mega Man 2 1/2 D Released
February 15th, 2017 Developed byPeter Saulstrand, it's a fan
made game. Independently published because

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it's the fan project available on the PC.
Oh. I didn't even know this was
going to be on here. That's pretty cool.
We doing home brews this week? Yeah.
Oh yeah, seriously actually missplaying this.
We should have beat this game. I know it's like we we got
pretty far and I think our data erased and we had to start over.

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For people who are unfamiliar with this game, yeah, this is
like exactly what the title says.
Mega Man 2.5 D It's 2D, but it'skind of got like a little bit of
three-dimensional graphics goingwith the little size growing
thing they got going. The biggest feature with this
game is that it's actual two player Co-op.
It's the closest we'll ever get to a classic Mega Man ever being

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two players. So it does feature pro demand as
a second playable character and they makes they actually, you
know, the level design is tailored to Co-op.
They should have put this on the3DS.
See. Look at that, yeah.
Oh wow, so it is really. It's really 2.5 D Yeah, it's the
way the way it. Moves on a three-dimensional
plane. And the game is very

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challenging, like Mega Man gamesusually are.
But the fact that this is a fan project and that Capcom has
never been able to pull this offis, you know, it's a miracle.
It is a miracle. It's crazy.
It's crazy that I remember when we played it, we had maybe one
stage left before the Wiley shit.

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And we beat the stage. Fuck in that stage.
I think it's a tornado, man. Maybe, probably.
And we beat the stage. We said, yeah, you know, we got
through the obstacles. And then when you go through the
corridor to the boss, it froze. Damn, that's why.
And that was the the most, that was the toughest stage.

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And I said and happened twice, Ithink happened to us twice.
And I said, all right, I'm neverplaying this game again until
this is fixed. And this was a long time ago, so
I'm pretty sure that is fixed bynow.
But just that error was the only, you know, issue we had.
But it was fun, it was challenging, it was dope.
The fact that you see Mega Man and Protoman in the same game at
the same time as fucking dope. And I don't know why Capcom

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never did a two player Co-op Mega Man before.
We had to play games like 20 XX and 30 XX to to see that done
and. You still haven't done it.
They still haven't done it. No like.
Like Mega Man X? Nothing.
Like, you know, and you got a fan made game that you know,
does an amazing job. So I don't, I don't understand
what Capcom's deal is, but this was fun.
This was fun. I want to go back to it and

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actually beat the game. Yeah, that was cool.
That tornado, man, I think I remember it too.
The wind was blowing in One Direction and then the the.
Obstacles will make you flip up like.
You jump on them and it drops, so you have to jump again.
It was. You're flipping upside down and
you have the time while you're upside down getting that was oh,
that's. Right.
Yeah, It was like Super Mario, Mega Man.

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It was. Fucked up.
I'd have been mad. No, you would have turned it off
in seconds because you. I probably would.
Have thrown my yeah, It's a tough game.
It's a tough. Game it did a good job though.
Yeah, phenomenal job. That's how Mega Man games are.
It felt like the the little bit of difficulty of one with the
little bit of the fun of two. Yeah, All right.
Well, there you go man. If anybody's able to track it

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down, actually he's, he's gone on his website.
We'll try to put his, you know, his, his site in the description
a little bit later so people could download it.
I suppose they never actually officially like took the project
in Capcom. Yeah, right, because they did it
with the Street Fighter version of it, the Street Fighter Mega
Man. Yeah, Cross battle or whatever.
But yeah, I would have thought they would have done this too.

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There's a Capcom event tomorrow.I don't know.
Wow. Interesting.
Well, maybe they'll be. I know.
Imagine Yeah, yeah, they announced.
I feel like get the. Fuck out, you know they're not
announcing Marvel versus Capcom 4.
Yeah, no, it's going to be Saga to something.
He's supposed to be coming out in the summer.
First character of that pack fora street.
Friday 6th, so Yep. Well, Mega Man 2.5 D gets the

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Dude audio listeners like that was smooth.

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Sensational. So now we're ready for what the
main topic y'all. Here we go.
I'm. Rocking the shirt.
Tier list. There you go man.
Alert tier list Alert I. Think I got someone on there
It's gonna be it's gonna be a little bit heated today.
It's gonna be a lot of crying tier alert it.
Might be a little heated. Today A.
Tier list. Yeah, man, I'm gonna get
somebody, man, I'll tell you that.
Might be shedding some tears. Yeah, man, it won't be any.

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I don't think there'll be anyonehere, but it'll be definitely a
viewer or two. Oh yeah, for sure.
Yeah. So it'll get a little salty
today. Yeah, man, we're going to be
doing the first party mascots, first party.
All Hell yeah. First party, first party mascot.
All right. And I just learned Mega Man was
not a first party. Yes.
No, no. So yeah, he's not on the list,

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yes. What a mass produce.
All right, there we go. So we're going to go over the
tier list because this has to becustom made for this specific
topic. So here we go.
Chalk. You want to go ahead and read it
out there, man. Starting from the bottom.
Now we're. Here we got garbage, then we
have pointless, then we have neglected, then we have OK, we

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got cool and we got iconic. Iconic.
I like it. So you got that?
Everybody all right? Hell yes.
All right. Are you guys out there?
You guys have the list right? That does.
I put it I put it in our group chat so you guys should have it
in our in our own personal groupchats.

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This cold beer is refreshing as fuck.
Isn't it great? Refreshing.
Isn't it great all? Right, let's get on with the
list y'all. Hell yeah, man.
Who's starting? With, we're going to start it
off. We're going to start off with
the one and only. Here we go.
We have Mario. He debuted in Super Mario

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Brothers in 1985. He's the face of Nintendo
pioneer platformers, inspired decades of spin offs, signature
and abilities or traits, jumpingthe fire flower, and cheerful
and brave demeanor. I'm gonna have to do a lot of
reading today and I'm gonna be stuttering my ass.
Good, good. Dude, he's the face of Universal
Studios. Yeah.

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He's the he's the new Mickey. Mouse basically true.
Yeah, to the children. More kids know Mario than
Mickey. Yep.
Astro sensational. How crazy.
Who wants to start you? Want me to go out?
You out? I'll start it off.
He's iconic, man. He's an iconic.
Character you sure? He's still like a Brooklyn
plumber. Like he's like, he's not

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special. Wow.
All right. Pretty plain.
I see where you're going to go vote.
Well, he's a mascot because he looks like the the everyday man.
He looks like the common man. That's fucked up.
Wow, it's. Like.
Wow, what Japan? No, it's like, yeah, maybe
America or maybe Italy, I don't know.
It's like he was like. Dude, you're just, you're just
trying to. Offense, something I was saying,

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wow. Maybe Italy.
Maybe Italy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's big in
Italy apparently. Yeah, yeah, he's supposed.
To be from Brooklyn's Italian, right?
But no, he's like, but he looks like, he looks like the common
man, you know? Alright, Al, you said iconic was
just get away from Kevin. Yeah, yeah, I said iconic.
Chuck. Chuck is next week.
Chuck, go ahead. This is easy for me.
He's garbage and I'm kidding. Damn man.

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Nah, like Super Mario Brothers was one of the first video games
I ever played. He's iconic.
He's he's lasted the test of time.
Yeah, since, Yeah, he's been around since 85.
He's he's older than most of your children that are watching
right now. He's he might be older than most
of you. So he's iconic.
There's no denying it. Yeah.
I think me and mother said he's 35 years old.
He's actually 30. 5, not 35. That was four years ago.

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But then if you if you watch theMario movie, he lives with his
parents still. So I was like, I'm not judging
by not judging, but yeah, you are.
No, it's it's it is what is? No, he's like, he's like iconic.
He, you know, Mario is iconic. I think, you know, I, I think
he's a, he's a lazy mascot. I don't think he's.
Yeah, what the Wait, wait, He's iconic, but he's a lazy mascot.
What's going on? What's what an intend?

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Drone is calling Mario lazy. He's the hardest working mascot
he's been in every Nintendo game.
For his design, his design's very basic.
You know, he's just very unassuming.
Unassuming. He's unassuming.
He's he's basic because he's just a brave guy who just, you
know, he goes against all odds, but he's, you know, he needs

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powers to to seem powerful. You know, he doesn't really have
anything by himself without getting.
A power I like how he says iconic.
But let me roast them. Yeah, let me just roast them.
Recently recognizable, you know,and he's you know, he's
universal, you know, whether you're an adult, whether you're
a kid, he's appealing to all those so he gets he he's iconic
he gets that appeal he's. He's the face of Nintendo.

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And he also saved video games. He saved the industry, you know,
so you know, so he's iconic, I'll give him that.
But he's as his design, it's very basic.
What the hell is your fault dude?
You're confusing the shit out ofme dude.
He's iconic but he's what the fuck?
Man, he's kind of caught between, he's kind of a garbage
mascot, but he's iconic, you know, he's like he's.
I'm so confused, like you literally ride this man's jock

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every time he drops his system and you're trying to say he's a
garbage mascot? Like make it make sense, Sir.
Man, I have kids look at. This tier, the top tier is like
iconic and the bottom is garbage.
So he's garbage looking What? Listen, we're talking about
we're talking about Jump Man here, OK?
Jump Man. It's not Jordan.

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Let's bring it back. No, not a snake.
Let's bring it back to his original concept.
He fought a monkey like this guyis the top of the charts.
This guy, he's out of shape. He's.
Usually out of shape. Wow, you said they're forcing

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the issue. What's happening?
It's so bad they're forcing it. Hold on sticks, when was the
last time we went to the gym? When I when I cancelled it.
I can't. There you go.
Wow. Wow.
Damn. Listen, I'm joking.
We know Mario is going in. Iconic, OK?

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We know this. But you know, I agree with Kev.
Wow. I can't, man.
I can't. Now he's a he's, we know him.
We know what he looks like. He's not surprising to us
anymore. Like he's cool because we know
who we. But if you just were born and
you're like, yo, who's this guy had no idea his legacy or

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anything, You're like, who the hell is this?
Why is he a mascot? I could see that happen.
He used to be jump man. There it is.
Yes, we are talking about Jump Man.
Yeah, Drake used to talk. About Oh my God.
No, he didn't. No, not this guy.
Yeah, iconic. There you go.
Yeah. So no, obviously it's iconic

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straight across the board, not only just for the amazing games,
but it's so many different typesof games that Mario can pull
off. You know he got sports games,
yes, Fucking he's. Been a ref.
He's been like, you know, 3D platformers, 2D platformers,
Mario Kart, golf, strategy, RPG.His spinoffs are successful.

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Well, it's racing games. He owned a hotel.
Tennis, Yeah, yeah, fucking Mario Paint like, I mean,
there's so many yeah, different types of It's not just.
Miles, Jamaican. It's not even just like the one,
you know, genre that he does. It's just he does.
He's successful in multiple genres.
Somebody does and it's and it's and he's been good and not even

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like, oh, it's a decent game. They're all been awesome games.
So favorite turn based strategy.Yeah, and it's and it works
somehow, someway, and that despite his appearance, it it it
works somehow, some way. So yeah, he's obviously iconic
and there's nothing personally loved.
Yeah, he's everyone likes him. No one ever says, Oh my God, I
don't want to pick Mario becausehe, you know, he looks like a

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fucking. Fat.
Plumber, you know, like, I don'twant to be a fat plumber.
Like no one ever says that. Just Mario.
They sold Mario. Yes, they sold Mario's look.
That's true, they did. If anything, anyone anyone just
complaints about him talking andI don't think you know, they're
just they're being nitpicking morons.
But no, they were mad because they took his voice away.

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Yeah, they're not complaining. They they took away like,
they're mad because he's talkingto me.
They're mad because he took it away.
Yeah, it's just like, that's whythe Internet's.
Not a real new voice. They're fine.
I like the fact that also, you know, you got the 2D Mario and
the side scrolling Mario and then you have the 3D Mario.
So they play and they play different, but it's, you know,
yeah. Mario Strikers, Mario Tennis,

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Mario Golf, you know, so much Super Smash Brothers.
He's in that, too. He does everything he could be.
In every Mario parties. He could be in, he could be in
every type of game, and there's not many.
Mario first person shooter. There's not many.
I'm sure you can find it. I don't know, just talk over me,
guys. There's just, there's not many
mascots that can pull that off because of whatever powers they

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have. Like, Sonic can't be in any type
of game. He can be in a lot of different
ones, but he can't be in every type, right?
But yeah, iconic, man. There you go.
Truth of the iconic tier. True.
By the way, there's 3131 of these.
I know some of these gonna be these gonna be quick.
So yeah, some of them are gonna be like, get this motherfucker
out of. Here No, that's the tier list
y'all that's. Yeah.

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All right. So the next we got.
Link debuted in Legend of Zelda in 1986 to find the action
adventure genre central to Nintendo's Lawrence storytelling
evolution. He's a talented swordsman,
puzzle solver, courageous, and aTriforce bearer.
Not when he fights Marth, but other than that, he does.
He does. Eric, cut.
Bring back, bring it back. All right, drop in again.

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He said Eric cut, bring back. Bring it back.
Get cut. Yeah, I'll go first.
Nah, man, I'm going first. Oh, he, I'm gonna do.
He wants to go 1st. I'm going, I'm going first.
He's willing to cut the line. I'm.
I'm going first. I will.
Commend you on the portrait picture you picked for Link.
You didn't choose the blue Champions tunic look from Breath

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of the Wild or tease the Tears of the Kingdom.
He he want D ride. I want no, I wanna make.
It's always about the green tunic in the hood.
That's the real link. How?
What do you? Think I He doesn't really have
powers, you know, he has, you know, he looks kind of corny
with the green, you know, but I know he's iconic, but see how
stupid that sounds, man? Was he an elf?

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I would say yeah. He's a Legolas reject.
Look, you got a lot of differentlengths and some designs are
bad. Fairies tingle.
Tingle Fairies. Yeah.
I know we're not messing with it, yeah.
So. What'd you say, Al?
Cool. He's cool.
I'm putting him under the cool, cool category.

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All right. What do you think for me, Chuck?
I think he's a little bitch witha sword.
Shaw doesn't like it because I stab him with the Master Sword
every freaking time. It's Smash Friday.
I haven't played too many Zelda games to be honest, but I think
I understand his impact. He's another mascot that's

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lasted the test of time and he looks amazingly cool in in the
newer games. I can't front, so I'm going to
I'm going to put him in. I'm going to have to put Link as
iconic as well man. Here we go Yeah, All right.
I'm of course I'm going to say that he's iconic.
I. Don't even.
Why? Why is he?
Because I don't need to say. Why?
Because. Turbo writing.

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Turbo Writing. The reason why Link is iconic
spin on because he's kind of, it's funny.
The funny thing about Link is that you know The Legend of
Zelda is like one of the earliest action adventure RPG's,
but then he starts a debate on whether his series is RPG or
not, even though the first game is pretty much the blueprint for

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what open world RPG's are doing right now.
The cool thing about Link also is that even though he has a
sword and shield, he doesn't typically look like a knight
that you would see out of, you know, like a generic design from
like Elden Ring or The Elder Scrolls.
You know, they're always kind oflike, create a player, dress
them up however you want in thisarmor and what?

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About this Christmas selfie. You know, it's just like, that's
a cool thing about it's like it was a Christmas selfie.
Well, I hate this one. That's why I put it up.
I was waiting for it on my. Head I hate.
The tube. Late design OK, he doesn't
always have the greatest designs.
Twilight Princess was great. Hyrule Warriors, the first
Hyrule Warriors, that great design, you know, Ocarina Time

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is a classic design of him. That's the, you know, when he's
adult Link, that's when he's thecoolest.
You know, he's got the Triforce,the Courage.
It's just you. Know is there a version of Mario
that's a bad design? No, they all look pretty much
similar. There you go.
They're very, very, very. Similar.
There you go. The best thing, the best thing
about Link is that they mess with his design too much more
than they do any other character.

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Nintendo character, all, they all pretty much stay within the
same realm, but they're like, oh, let's experiment with Link,
let's go its direction. Let's take away the hat.
Has the iconic. Because he's the man.
No, no, just like the iconic. He's come on, man.
He's like, he whips people's assand he's, he has an unassuming
look. Even though he's a swordsman, he
doesn't look like every other swordsman.
I mean, all he does is whatever Zelda tells him too.
No, it's not true. So he's like a glorified simp.

(20:34):
Yeah, You know, both both Mario and Lincoln, they are glorified
simps. Pretty much like.
Nintendo pushes simp characters that save women and get nothing
from it. They pushes simp culture so you
support no simp culture. No man, Zelda's not even the
romantic like. She doesn't even like men,
right? Is that what you're going to
say? Nah, man.

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Link is all about the duty, OK? He's all about just the duty.
Duty. He's all about the duty.
He said the dude just. The Dude.
Just honor bound to protect our rule.
You would have been better off saying that.
Whatever. Just getting the job done all
right. Where's your vote?
My vote was like, iconic, all right, OK.
There's no other protagonists like him in that genre, OK.

(21:17):
Excuse me? No.
Excuse me? I can't.
You're welcome. You're welcome.
Well, he helped. He helped you with that.
One man, he got you. So which link are we actually
talking about? Because there's a ton of
different links. All right, there's a missing
link. I can't even put him in the
category. You got to lump them all
together, man. You got to lump them all
together. They're all.

(21:37):
Different look. He's always the bearer of the
Triforce, right? He's always the Chosen 1.
He's a simp. Damn.
Listen Act, I'm gonna make it quick for me.
I'm not going to be Turbo. I don't care much about Zelda
but I will put him in iconic because he alone classified

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adventure games and has taken itmuch where not many characters
have done it. Real time fantasy adventure.
And he has a fan base and they will buy and go crazy over any
Legend of Zelda game. Every time it's a it's an event.
He is huge. He is the 2nd next to Mario and

(22:18):
a Nintendo. Like he is the face of Nintendo
besides Mario. That's true.
If you see him you're like OK, that's definitely Nintendo.
That's what a mascot supposed todo.
Yep, and he is. Even when he's hiding behind the
Majora's man. Shut up, you're done.
He's. The face of Nintendo.
He's like jumping in again. I had to get.
Married you, but yeah, he's iconic.
I I agree with a lot of what Sticks said, however, however, I

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don't see him up there with Mario.
I think Mario's known worldwide.If you say a lot of people
thought he was his name was Zelda for years.
So so they didn't know his name for a long time.
There's new the the green guy with the hood and sword that
goes and saves Zelda. But he got popular over the

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years and he definitely made a genre.
He was the reason I got into video games.
Like I want to play Zelda one, so I could definitely give
credit for that, but I'm going to say cool, man.
I'm not going to say iconic. I think he's on the cusp of it.
I'm not going to argue with someone who says he's iconic,
but I just think he's cool and he's like right there.

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Because when I think of mascots,I think of Mario and I think of
Sonic. I don't think of Link up there
with them. Yep, I just don't.
I just don't 30 million. I'm worth the wild sales 30
million. But they still think his name is
Zelda. So yeah, he hasn't.
He hasn't made the mark and he has different designs.
Who's they? Who's they?
You know, 30 million. They know his name at the. 3rd

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But don't worry, you already gotthree votes for Iconic, so he's
going alright. He's going tonight, so you
don't. You don't have to argue my
opinion. It's OK.
My opinion So far, probably the only ones that voted.
Cool look. We'll argue anyway. 20 million,
that was very mad. Right, 20 million for tears,
That's that's a lot more than a lot of marriage.
Kept like and the and the cart fits up your ass too.
Wow. All right, you can play the game
in your ass. All right, so So Zelda's going

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in. Iconic.
Yeah. I mean Zelda, I mean go to cool
now. I said it happened to me.
I was one of those that always Ithought he would go to cool, but
iconic's fine. I'm all right with that, for
that, for that genre, I. Mean he's the reason why you

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like RPGs. I was next.
We got 30. Yeah.
We got thirty of these guys. All right, the next one we got.
Pause. Pikachu Sorry debuted in Pokémon
Red and Green in 1996. He's a global ambassador for
Pokémon, the symbol of a multimedia empire.

(24:58):
His signature abilities? If you've ever seen Pokémon,
Electric shocks, Thunderbolts, he's pretty much electrocuting
the holy hell out of you. Any of these incredibly cute,
adorable, loyal, and instantly recognizable?
Who's first? Oh, he looks like a clown.
Al yeah, I'm first. Yeah, I don't know, man.

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Pikachu. I'm not.
It's out of my genre. It's not.
It's I was never into any Pokémon game, never, never
really intrigued by Pokémon, although I did watch.
What was it Detective? What was that movie?
The detective. Pikachu and I was that was
entertaining that. Was good.

(25:43):
But for me, I, I, I don't know, I, I guess I'll put him on, OK.
He's OK to me personally. But as far as like, you know
what though, I'm, I'm torn because he is iconic.
You do see him almost everywhereand everybody knows Pikachu.
How many other airplanes? Yeah, he has literal airplanes.

(26:05):
No, like everybody knows Pikachu.
Like even my mom knows. I know there's nothing about
video games or anything. I think the cool thing, the cool
thing about this tier list and this this podcast is that
everyone has like it's your personal opinion of what you
think. Yeah, right.
Everyone has a different. Experience with all.
These. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So. So that's where the controversy
begins because I hit AL's take is probably going to be very
close to mine. Mine might might be a little

(26:27):
worse, but but I I know, I know.Well, I don't play Smash.
So that's that's yeah, I know people.
Are going to get offended by this course, but but for me
personally, he's iconic easily when I was in high school
watching Pokémon like he was Ash's main Pokémon forever and
then Ash just won the championship.
He helped Ash win his win the championship.

(26:49):
You know what I mean? In the in one of the final
episodes of Pokémon like, and that happened like maybe two
years ago. You know what I'm saying?
Like no Pokémon. Come on son, come.
On what was your vote? Okay, I said okay, you said
okay. You said iconic.
I said iconic. Turbo should be interesting.
What? Did you say?

(27:09):
No, he is instantly recognizable.
I think his design is terrible, but wow, yeah, he looks like a
clown. He's got the the rosy cheeks and
stuff like that. It's a sheet, right?
It's a sheet. You choose a sheet, right?
I fucking. Don't know.
Is it? I don't.
Even know what Kirby is? It's a sheet.
You choose a sheet, right? It's just, Yeah, it's a, you
know, cute little was a rabbit. What's that thing about?

(27:30):
It's a Pikachu. It's a Pikachu, a monster.
It's a fucking electric mouse. It's in the mouse.
It's in the mouse category. Yeah, but you know who the
character is when you when you see her.
So it's just like, you know, like it's she is iconic.
You know, she's the mascot of that and it's, you know, Pokémon
sells a lot. You know, I, I, I want to play,
I want to be able to get into one of these games just once,
but I just can't do it. I don't know why I just can't.

(27:52):
I can't do it. But yeah, I know as soon as you
see, I'm like, my daughter knowswho Pikachu is, you know, and
she doesn't even mess with Pokémon yet.
So, you know, I'll, I'll say iconic.
She does deserve iconic. Whether I care about the
character or not, it is very well known who that is.
There's no denying that. That's Pikachu, and there's no

(28:14):
denying it's a Pokémon representative.
If you see the shadow, you know it's Pikachu.
Even if it's not, you're going to say Pikachu and they say
who's that Pokémon? Regardless of who it is, you're
going to say Pikachu. Exactly.
And it's not my generation and it's not my game, but I know
exactly who the hell it is. And it is an iconic.

(28:36):
It has a a Thanksgiving Day blimp.
Like it's an iconic representation of a character.
Excellent. So I have to give it iconic
whether I like it or not. I know it could be.
I could put it where I want it, but I can't refute that That is
an iconic character. I think that's the thing with
this, the particular character, I mean there's others on here

(28:57):
that I will not make that take for, but for Pikachu, I
obviously if you watch the podcast, I do not care about
Pokémon. I do not, I'm not intrigued
whatsoever about the series, thecharacters, the lore.
I that's one of the few things Ido not care about.
However, for someone who does not care about Pokémon or does
not watch any shows, I know who Pikachu is.
And that's not because I stabbedPikachu in the face and smash

(29:19):
letters. I knew Pikachu before that.
So if I know who that that character, I'm not a fan of that
series, then there has to be an iconic character.
I mean it by by default, like even even if I'm like it's an OK
mascot. Me personally, I would say it's
OK, but that's what I said. But technically it's it's an I I
can't say Pikachu is not an iconic character.

(29:41):
But for you personally, me personally, it's OK.
I I would say it's OK character.This panel, this this we're
voting for is for us our personal opinion on the on the
mascot. Yeah, yeah.
But that's a good point to mention that they are well known
characters. The fact that I know who that
is, that's why it's like, yeah, it has to go into iconic, right.

(30:04):
But I as a as a my personal opinion, right, I would say it's
an OK mascot. That's true.
So it's where is this? Going then what are you I'm
voting OK you vote OK There's three iconic 3 iconic so it's
iconic alright alright world of bizarre in the.
Chat says it's a boy. Really.
Yup, said he chose a boy. He's a boy, I guess, but I?

(30:25):
Thought I don't know. Why is the voice so?
High. I thought I had a woman's voice.
And everybody got mad because, well, Bart sent you a.
Voice. No, no, it talked.
And the newest, like one of the newer ones, it talked in a
female voice. I thought, really.
And people were pissed. Well, I mean Ash.
Ash's Pikachu was I guess was male and I mean Ash is a female.
Detective Voice. Wise.
Voice. So we can't just go by.

(30:47):
Voice, I guess. Anyways, who's next?
Yeah, it's confusing as shit We're.
About to go somewhere. All right, so yeah, Pikachu gets
iconic y'all. So we got 3 iconic characters
already. So far, they're all going.
To be iconic. I'm sorry, I don't.
Know Pikachu's a drawing? I'll go with that.
All right, next character. Donkey Kong.

(31:08):
Debuted in Donkey Kong and from 1981 he laid the foundation for
Nintendo success and early rival, then ally to Mario.
He's known for strength, barrel throwing, and jungle setting.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah, brother.
He's about to get a new game. What can I?

(31:29):
Say about Donkey Kong, man, thischaracter, I'm going to tell you
now, it's iconic right off the bat.
First game I played. In the arcade was Donkey Kong
and yeah man good memories with this.
This game is terrible. Arcade is terrible.

(31:49):
All right, I I like how he just cuts off.
There you go. This game is terrible.
All right, He just said it's thefirst game he played and his
memories great. The game, it's terrible.
Yeah, thanks. It's like I said this.
Game is terrible which in the gates say anything?
You're saying because it doesn'tmatter?
Whatever. Yeah, whatever I say.
Yeah, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
Thanks. Thanks.
Terrible. What's going on, kid?

(32:09):
Amazing. Oh my God.
Oh my God. Anyway.
No, and the other game that I love Donkey Kong Country for.
SNES man. That game I.
Was obsessed with that game. That's an amazing game.
The rated music too. Donkey Kong Country has no
business to have such a dope soundtrack, dude.
Man, great, great game. Donkey Kong as a character,

(32:32):
himself as a mascot, yeah. I'm going to put him on Iconic.
Everybody knows what Donkey Kongis.
I haven't played too many DonkeyKong games, to be honest.
My most familiar experience withDonkey Kong's in Super Smash
Brothers series. So I'm going to put him in OK?

(32:54):
Try not to hate me. That's perfectly fine man, it's
your. Experience and talking.
About music soundtracks Donkey Kong tropical freeze Donkey Kong
country tropical freeze has a really great they're series has
really it's like good music everything except donkey
everything. Except.

(33:14):
But they've done remixes that very good, but the original is
fucking terrible. But as a.
Mascot as a you know what else? What else is he in besides is it
Mario Kart? A guest in other thing He's a
Mario Kart, he's a Smash Brothers.
He's. Smash Brothers.
Anything other than that he hasn't gotten his own movie yet.
He was in a movie he was in. The Mario movie.

(33:35):
He's in the. Movie.
I don't know. He hasn't really showed much
character depth to me. You know, It's like he's like,
he's all about the bananas. Bananas.
What the Hell's? About the bananas.
Bananas. It's all about the bandanas.
No, he's all about the bananas. His powers are cool and they
want the bananas. How is that a?
Comic. It's like he's all about.
The bananas. Dude, and you're doing what what
point the talking point is he's got he's got cool.

(33:56):
He's. Got cool abilities they can do
his but he's all about the bananas.
He's like, fuck is that he's collected.
Bananas. He's finished his beer.
That's what happened. Fucking Christ as a mascot, I.
Don't know, man. He's he is, yeah, people
recognize him and stuff like that, but it's like I just, I
can't put him in an iconic. I think he's got to get like
he's OK. I think as a mask guy, he's OK
as a representative of a of a company.

(34:17):
It can't be some gorilla. No, I mean.
It can't be. Something.
Gorilla sticks. Sticks, Yeah.
Yeah. I mean you guys.
Monkey Kong Bonanza, come on. Man.
That looks dope doggy. Doggy.
Kong Donkey Kong. Where should I?
Put Donkey Kong. He's such a weird one.
Though he really is. Because I'm I'm still dancing

(34:39):
around my listen, he's important.
Like I said. It was Jump Man and.
Donkey, Kyle, who kicked off Nintendo basically, and Pauline.
You got to give. Her credit?
Listen, I'm. Talking about how you throwing?
Pauline. So because he's in.
A Nubian now, but I think that he's more important now than
ever. Well, actually in the 90s he's
probably more important, but I don't know.

(35:01):
Nintendo doesn't. Really go to Donkey Kong as a
representative of Nintendo. He's a character.
But they. Never say this.
Is Nintendo's character. This is Donkey Kong, we're
giving you Nintendo here. So I would have to put him in
OK, as far as like a mascot, he's not a he's a character we

(35:21):
know, but I wouldn't call him a mascot for Nintendo at all.
I. Mean he's getting there he's.
Getting there. They're pushing.
Him now. But it's been how many years
since the 90s? I mean, he was on the Wii, but
he wasn't really pushed as the main guy there.
It's just oh, that's Dong Kong country guy.
I mean, he really was the. Nintendo's first mascot, if you
really think about it. In the in the 80s early he

(35:44):
introduced Mario. So it's like he kind of started
it. I don't think they treat him
like. That though no I.
Think. He's in the game.
But I don't think Nintendo's like this is our mascot ever.
I never see a Nintendo side withjust Donkey Kong on it.
There's other mascots on this. List Just so you know, another
Nintendo mascots on this list that are very neglected.

(36:05):
Well, they ain't going to. Be an iconic.
How about I say, I guess they'llbe yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm just saying there's others that are way more like, what the
hell? Well, you're going in the
middle. Yeah, OK.
For me, so OK. Let me see the.
Tier. Let me see the tier list again.
All right, so we have. Cool.
OK, Neglected. Pointless.
OK, obviously he's not pointlessor garbage.

(36:26):
Yeah, we're not. Yeah, he's not.
He's not neglected. Not neglected either.
I'm not going to throw him an. Iconic.
I will not. I think that like he's one of
those mascots that was forgottenafter he had a nice little run
and he just came back with some dope shit.
And I think I think like in the future, he might get to iconic,

(36:46):
depending on what Nintendo does with him.
But the fact that he was, you know, in the movie with Mario,
the fact that he was in Smash Brothers, the fact that he had
some, you know, Donkey Kong Country games that were
successful. That's the 3D ones also.
Yeah, he's he's, he's had, you know, he had success.
Yeah. And he is a known name.
So I, I'm personally gonna throwhim under cool.

(37:10):
I think Donkey Kong is a cool mascot.
I think he's on the come up. He's not where the the bigger
heads are right now, but I thinkhe's on the come up.
So I'm gonna give him a cool cool.
I but if he didn't have this game, I would say neglected.
If he did not have the bonanza yeah, I would say he's neglected
yeah, but I but I think he's cool after what they're doing
with this game. So he's cool.

(37:31):
I think bonanza. Will kick him.
Up a notch. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's not not iconic yet. Though I still it won't, it
won't put him there, but he'll be like, oh, let's get more
games with this guy. What was the Donkey Kong game
that had the Congos donkey? Kong.
Bongo, bongo, bongo. Yeah, that was fun.
I found that on a Wii. Donkey Konga.
Maybe Donkey Konga that. Was yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

(37:53):
That was fun. I never played All right, so.
What we got, we got. We got a cool, we got an iconic
and three OK's, so it's going inOK.
Damn, yeah. Damn.
Donkey. Kong got snubbed.
It's like he's. OK, I'll be all right.
Yeah, it's terrible, man. He's in the.
Work. He's in the class he.
Got he, got he got snow. 'Cause he had diagon 60.
Four man, come on, you know whathe got put into.
OK, 'cause he has that cheap assmove with Smash Brothers when

(38:15):
you throw him right to the corner.
There you go. Sorry, Donkey Kong, I was.
Thinking about putting him in cool, but he's close.
He's close. Like I would have been mad he's
on the cusp if he wouldn't. Have cool or OK I.
Wouldn't be mad, yeah. All right, next Samus Aaron.
Debuted in Metroid in 1986. Iran.
Iran, Oh. My God, I know it.

(38:36):
I know it. I.
Knew it. I knew it.
I knew he was going. To do it, I know he he can't
resist. He can't resist.
Trailblazing. Female protagonist, innovative
exploration based gameplay. She has an arm cannon, She has a
morph ball, the power suit and isolation themes.
Iran. Samus.
Iran. Iran.
A rod. A rod from fucking the.

(38:59):
Samus a a rod. When Samus.
Plays baseball. She's a rod.
That's. Yeah, thank you for that.
Yeah. So anyway, I think Samus is
cool. That's it, That's all.
I got. That's all I got.
To say Samus is cool I think. Samus goes into one of two

(39:21):
categories. I think there's one of two
categories and that's it. I don't think there's any other
categories she will fit in. Yeah.
What do you think I I want? To put in her I want to Jesus
Christ. Dude you don't even read it man,
that was amazing. I got a short.
Wow, Yeah, What do you? Want.

(39:42):
To put in Jesus Christ anyways, Yeah, what up, Raikkon?
Just grabbed his ring. It's ugly head anyways.
I want to put her in iconic. But she hasn't had a game in
forever so I'm going to put her in Cool.
She's cool as hell. I want to put her in iconic but
not until look she had. Metro Metroid Prime Remastered.

(40:06):
I'm going to put her in cool. I'm going to put her in cool
too. Cools.
Damn. I got to give her iconic man.
She is gaming's first female lead character.
Gaming's first heroine is Samus Durant.
Everyone thought you were playing as a dude until she took
that suit off when you did the Justin Bailey freaking password.
Who is who the fuck is? Justin Bailey.

(40:28):
That's the craziest thing. Who the fuck is Justin?
No idea, I thought that was her real name.
But that's just the password, just so she comes without the
suit and the first Metroid or whatever.
But yeah, people thought they were playing as a dude.
And she's, yeah, she's, she's been great.
She's always been consistent, always been like a Terminator.
Her games are awesome. Everybody wants to see her.

(40:50):
Yeah, she's her game's so neat. Niche, right?
They don't really niche. No say niche, he said.
Niche. Niche, we're going to say.
Niche I got I. I can't, you know, buffet.
I don't say buffet, I say buffet.
Life's a niche. But you're going to.
Correct. Me no.
He gonna correct you? It's French, man.
Come on. Niche.
All right. Sounds like Keisha anyway.

(41:11):
But. Not but it's her.
Her games don't sell crazy like,you know, like a Mario or Zelda.
But come on, man, she's gaming'sfirst heroine.
She's iconic. You know anyone who plays games,
they know this. They know this.
So you said iconic. Iconic.
All right. So.
I would like to put Samus in iconic because of what she's

(41:32):
done as being a representative for females and video games when
there was no representation way back in the day and that was
iconic. That moved there.
But she's been cool, always beencool.
According to Nintendo, she's cool.
They don't. They don't push Samus as a
mascot. Even with the the new.

(41:52):
Ones it's taken what, nine years?
Nah, it was. She's more iconic.
Than master chef. So dude.
I I. You just this guy, stop.
You got to stop interrupting motherfuckers.
So yeah, dude, Nintendo's taking.
Forever. I mean they bought out Metroid
Tread as like a consolation prize because they take too long
with the other game, but they never treat Samus as one of

(42:15):
their biggest characters like they could.
Especially in the last 20 years.It was the last. 30 years.
But but yeah, besides the trilogy for what was that for?
That's what the the GameCube, right?
The trilogy was. For the was that the Wii?
Yeah, the. Wii, yeah.
OK. But yeah.
Besides way back then. But yeah, I would say cool Sam,

(42:36):
this is cool. She's up there.
I. I I really want to give her
iconic, but I can't, I can't, I can't do it.
I can't put her with Mario because she hasn't she Nintendo
hasn't done right by Samus in myopinion.
I think she needs more games. I think she needs it's too many

(42:57):
gaps in between her games too. She's got a lot of games though.
No, I mean like there's a. Big gap.
Like, you know, dread. They had to like pull teeth to
get dread out. You know, like that was like.
There should have been somethingon that fucking system like
early, you know, and, and after Dread.
Now they're like pulling teeth for Metroid Prime 4, which I'm
not crazy about. The first person shit in the 1st
place so well it took them a lotto get that.

(43:19):
Yeah, but a lot of people love. The that series, so you know,
you know, more power to them, But I I want to see her in more
shit. I want I want to see her with
more games. You know, I want to see some
like maybe a Other M style, you know, I want to see her do more
stuff. But yeah, she's iconic.
Yeah, I mean, I mean she. The character itself, she's a

(43:41):
cool, iconic character, but she's not iconic on the level of
a Mario. It's just just not well the
second they gave a personality. People got pissed, yeah, because
people suck and they. Don't have personalities, so
they suck when you know when they see when they see a woman
with a personality, they don't like it.
They're like I. Want my?
Video game heroines. To be silent.

(44:01):
I don't want them to talk. And dumb I.
Got to get her cool, man. I got to get her cool.
I got to get her cool. She just doesn't have that
resume. And like you, people walk in the
streets, they know Mario, they don't know Samus like that.
Justin Bailey is cool. Nah, that's a throw, but.
Yeah, she goes. In cool she goes.

(44:24):
In cool y'all. Damn, that's. 4/4 votes for.
Cool. Can't give one for icon.
Nintendo mascot Iconic 'cause they're not.
She's iconic. They're not on that system.
Yeah, but not in general. Yeah, if it's a Nintendo list.
Yeah. She's iconic, right?
You know, it's gaming. Yeah, this is gaming in general.
She's right under it though. She's right under it.

(44:44):
Yeah. Next one we got Kirby debuted.
In Kirby's Dreamland in 1992, he's charming and an an
accessible icon known for gameplay variety and
transformations. He can inhale enemies, copy
abilities, and he can float. Fuck Kirby, man.
Oh wow, you're not up yet? I just want to say that that's.

(45:07):
All he said fuck Kirby Reich, itsaid Justice for DK yo.
I think he got snubbed too dude,I really do.
We got we can talk, we can, we can talk about it later at the.
End. Yeah, Kirby's not.
Iconic, however, there. What was the name of the game
that that came out for ForgottenLamb?

(45:30):
That's it. Yeah, that was.
Not bad, that was the best. Kirby game that sang a lot.
That was not a bad. Game.
I can't stomach these. Games.
But I've beaten that several times and I'm ashamed.
No minute. They're easy as they're easy as
shit. It's not bad.
The quality of the. Game, the quality of the game,
man, it's good, but. I'm going to say I'm.

(45:51):
Going to put it under under. Cool.
I think. I think Kirby's cool.
He's a cool character. Yeah, nothing to add to that,
just cool. That's it.
I I. Can't put him in neglected
because he's not. I can't put him in pointless
because he's not. Even though I hate him, I can't
put him in garbage because I know he's not.
I can't. I can only put him in, OK.

(46:13):
I, I, I don't. I'm not a huge Kirby fan.
Not at all. Yeah, he's just cool.
I only played two games. No, I mean, sorry, he's.
Just OK. He's not cool.
He's OK. All right.
Yeah, it's, it's like. He's got cool powers and stuff
like that. He's like a Mario for even he's
like Mario for the kids. I don't even know it's a fishy

(46:33):
or he, I haven't figured out what Kirby is yet.
All those little wildy things hewalks around with.
But it's he's iconic in the way that you know what you're
getting accessible kid friendly gaming.
As soon as you see the character.
No, you know, and his his games,her game or it's game so well,
Kirby, he Kirby. He OK.

(46:55):
Kirbys game so well on the last one was really really good.
He's not a neglected character, but as a mascot, as a face of a
company, as a face of a, of a development company or anything
like that, as a, you know, Nah, OK, Like it's, it's, it's OK,
not cool. He's not a cool mascot.
He doesn't exude coolness at all.
When you see that puff ball. So it's like, Nah, I, I give it,

(47:16):
OK, You know, he's he's, he's recognizable, the game sell kids
love him. My daughter loves him.
But Nah man, you can't. That can't be the face of your
company. So the audio listener.
CGV reckon just said if I had pearls I'd clutch.
Them that's a that's a funny key.

(47:38):
Oh man, I would clutch. Them.
How do I feel about? How do I feel like this events
is a low low RIP off? Like he's just.
A BLOB, A pink BLOB, red. I mean, decent powers, whatever.
I mean, I never looked at Kirby as a mask off or anything ever.

(47:59):
Not. Not at all.
For Nintendo. No, for whatever company.
Hal. Hal Laboratory.
No, I never. Looked at this guy as a
representative of anything. So not even for kids.
No, not even. No, I never cared about this
character or the games that he was in.
So he's going in. Pointless.

(48:20):
I mean pointless. You don't need.
You don't need Kirby. That's a.
Mascot. He's representative of.
Childhood obesity. Wow and and Gluttony just
exactly just just inhaling enemies.
He's all about eating. And bulimic.
All about eating and sleeping. Shit, yeah.
Eating and sleeping. Listen, I'm not saying.
I'm not saying that the games. Some games he was in weren't

(48:43):
great games as a character in mascot, which is this tier list.
He's not a good mascot for anything for for me he's just
not. I'll piggyback off of.
That because it's like there's so Nintendo has a lot, right?
Nintendo has a lot of strong characters as mascots for their
for their company. A fake Pokémon.
I think, I think no, to be honest.

(49:05):
Kirby's like a like a, like a, like a reject or like a like a
like a character they didn't want to throw out.
And they said, you know what, kids would like this character.
Let's just, you know, make a lotof games, you know, for the
kids. Yeah.
It's. Just like I don't.
I don't really see his appeal, to be honest.
I I just don't. I mean, there's a lot of people
like his games. That's completely fine.
Kids like their games. A lot of people, you know, he's
in a lot of good games. The fact that he was the main

(49:26):
character in Smash Bros Ultimatebullshit.
He's. The only motherfucker.
That survived. There'd be no Smash Bros
without. Him.
He's the only one that survived.That get the fuck out of my
face. That star is fast.
Yeah. So I can't.
I'm not gonna throw him an iconic fuck no.
He has a lot of different creative games.
I will give him that. But they're all like, you know,
if they're baby games, they're easy, you know, like they're not
tough. There's no difficulty I'm with.

(49:48):
You on that one? They are, they are pretty easy.
Yeah, they're pretty easy. You know, I mean, which is not a
bad thing because, you know, kids like that, you know, they
gotta, you know, place if you'regonna play games, you know, then
you gotta win. I kind of feel like I've kind of
feel the same with about Pete with Pikachu that I do with
Kirby also like they're I'm. Not the, I'm not the.
Demographic for those character for that mascot.

(50:10):
I'm I'm gonna I I will. I'll double down.
Pointless. I think Kirby's pointless.
Damn. So that's two pointless.
And three OK's. Pointless.
Oh boy, we gotta go. To the chat for the tiebreaker.
Oh boy, no, we got three OK's. Yeah, we got 3.
OK's yeah, you said. That's what I said.
You said OK. Yeah.
Yeah. He got saved OK all.
Right, fine. Kirby got saved.
Because I put him in the same category with Pikachu, where

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it's like, it's really for kids.We're not the demographic for
that character. So that's what it's like, But
it's a recognizable character. He survived Kirby.
Yeah, he got a lot. So close.
I know somebody that won't. I know someone who.
Won't. So.
Yeah. So he goes in there.
OK. Don't you dare put him in front
of Donkey Kong. Nah.

(50:53):
Right in. Front.
No. He's like, chill.
I mean Smash Brothers. Though fuck out of here.
Better than any Donkey Kong. Game.
All right, who we got next? Next.
We got. We got Fox McLeod.
Debuted in Starfox in 1993. He brought 3D space combat to
consoles. The leader of a beloved sci-fi
squad. He's an expert R wing pilot.
Can shoot lasers, homing lasers.But he's not kidding.

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And he has great tactical leadership.
Oh yeah. Fox, McLeod.
Fox McLeod. Fox, McLeod.
I forgot how. I remember we were talking about
this last week about recently playing this.
Oh my God, man, I like that dog's face.
This shit's like 10 frames, man.It's just slow.
It's cool. I was like.
You know what is? This and I love this game.

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When? It came out but I'm like, this
is so slow, so slow. Try playing the second.
One you know it's I never play I.
I have my vote already. Yeah, me too.
I never messed. With the second one.
The the what was it the one thatcame out with N64?
Yes, that that version I played.It's also an NSL.
I only played. Star the original Star Fox on

(51:57):
SNES and the N64 Star Fox 64 and.
He's OK. Fox McLeod is OK.
OK, Yeah, I want to. Put him in cool so bad, but he
is so neglected. It is ridiculous that that's
where he belongs. He that you can't even I can't

(52:20):
see myself putting him in any other quarter category, but
neglected. It's bruh, where where's our
star fox game? He meant he skipped what?
Like how many consoles you played all the.
Star Fox Games No. But.
I played. I played like the first one on
Nintendo, but so like we haven'twhen when was the last time we
got like a fire Star Fox game? I like Star Fox.

(52:44):
Show was it the? The Wii U, the Wii U, and then
he. They made the.
Parents toll scheme that they hated.
Well, it depends. On who you ask, someone either
like it or they hate it. It's very, very polarized.
But as far as they also made a very strong guest appearance in
Starlink. Very like they were a part.
Of was it his game? No, no.

(53:05):
Star Fox Game. No, but it felt like 1.
My vote is neglected. Yeah, Turbo argue.
With that, no. It's hard to.
Say he's not neglected right, I think he's he's he's a cool
character he's not iconic enoughyou know yeah I think it's he
was very one of the earliest space combat games not as early
as Star Wars for the in television but.

(53:27):
One of those games. Sorry, Star Wars appeared first,
but this is probably one of the most original, you know, star
space, space themed spaceship games that came out, you know,
video games, especially startingwith the three DFX chip that
they did with the Super Nintendo.
So he's iconic in that groundbreaking way.
And he does, he does most of hisgames are really, really great.

(53:51):
But yeah, it's like it's neglected.
I can't get away from the I I want to give him cool, but it's
like I I can't say he's not neglected.
You know, he needs more games. They should put him in a star
link, a Starfox theme Starlink open world space vehicle game
That that that should have happened already.
So yeah, neglected, man, Neglected, neglected.

(54:13):
So sucks. Starfox is about a plane.
I love plane. I only see that as the.
Character. I mean, listen, Starfox is just
as important as any of his. His other like Flippy and like
his other members. Supposed to be a puppet, you
said. Flippy.
Yeah, yeah. The the the frog.

(54:36):
Slippy. Slippy.
Listen, this is how important this is to me.
I hold this close and near dear to my heart, Slippy, Poppy and
Falco. I think right.
Yeah, Poppy. I was going to, I was going to
name him. He wasn't.
Going to name shit come. On the motherfucker.
Flippy. Slippy, listen, peppy, listen,
listen. Oh peppy.
Yeah, it's peppy. These I don't.

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Think that these are mascots. I know they represent Star Fox.
He represents Star Fox. I don't think he's a mascot for
Nintendo, but if anything, he's a failed mascot if they tried to
make him one and the games, I mean, what was the other one
they put was Dinosaur Planet. What was the one that they
changed? The tennis game?
Dinosaur Planet. But it was is it that was a.
That's what it's called. Dinosaur Planet.

(55:19):
Yeah, yeah. So they tried to.
Fit him in other things. He didn't really pan out as a
character and knows either. But I would probably.
As he says, he's the success. Because you know who he is, you
know what he represents when yousee him.
So I would put neglected becausenone of the games they haven't
done well with him like they should or could, especially

(55:39):
nowadays what they can do with the game.
Obviously the FX ship was the early days when they attempted
to do something special with what they.
Could do now in. 3D with a star fox is like there's a no brainer
why? Why you not doing it and why
aren't you using him? And any type of game, right?
Now, because the the it's limitless what you can do with a

(56:00):
Star Fox game right now and withStar Fox the character.
So you could actually. Look like the.
Puppet in the game The Puppet. The Puppet.
Yes, he's actually. Supposed to be a puppet.
Yeah, but it's. Crazy, make a story, they can do
something with them. They don't do anything with the
character so he's in neglected for me also.
I think that's the only way. You could only, you know, just

(56:21):
the only place for him is is neglected because he's a cool
fucking character. I've always liked Star Fox.
I always thought the games were pretty cool.
I always thought they left a he came out the wrong time because
there's so much you can do with,you know, battleships and you
know, ground tanks and stuff like that.
But you know, when it came out, the shit's as ugly as fuck.

(56:42):
So like, and with the Starlink game, the fact that they
incorporated Star Fox into that,that was like a little taste of
what they can do. But I mean, if you watched a a
previous podcast, I already stated what they should do with
Star Fox and that would be epic.And if Nintendo did not see
that, if no representative Nintendo didn't see that, you

(57:03):
need to do the damn thing and check that shit out because Star
Fox is is very neglected. Do it for flippy.
Flippy. That'll be a.
New character. But no, he's very neglected.
Cool character. I'm more of a Falco guy but cool
character and I would like to see him in a new game, but he's
definitely neglected. All right, neglected.

(57:27):
Going right in. Damn, what?
You mean damn? It's damn.
No, it's just that's. Not an insult, that's.
True, it's neglected as fuck. Fox McCloud.
Damn Fox Mccool. Oh.
My God. Michelle Mccool.
Wow. What are we doing right now?
Yeah, so the next one we got. Captain Falcon.

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Debuted in F0. Known for more smashed and
racing symbol of futuristic highspeed action.
His signature abilities are Falcon, Pong, Falcon.
Oh man, high speed racer and he's a.
Bounty Hunter. Wow, yeah, I got my.

(58:09):
Vote. I got my vote and it's
pointless. That's what I feel that's.
How I feel. About him, man, I know for real
man like I. You know what you play the
you're racing right? You don't see him.
He's in the freaking car. Why do you need like it's
pointless to have? Show me your moves.
Sorry, you know. There's.
No real dialogue really. And you're it's a racing game.

(58:31):
Yeah. And I love racing games and this
I love the games. But the mascot now?
Pointless to me. Yeah, make it make.
Sense, I mean, I didn't even really play F0 like that, but
it's like he didn't really show any personality until he was in
a game that wasn't his. So pointless, yeah.
That's fine. You got if you.
Don't think he has personality. I like the games though.

(58:52):
I like. Play zero story mode.
Story mode for the game. What's your vote, Kev?
No F0 GX OK for the GameCube andalso it's all available right
now. We're not talking about the
fucking game, but the mascot. NSO unswitched to mascot as a
mascot. He's kind of like the face of
futuristic space themed racing games, right?
So I kind of like fucking genre,no?
He's not giving this man a genrewhen people think of.

(59:15):
Wipeout. They think of fast, you know,
those fast games and stuff. They think they there's no
mascot and Wipeout. They don't need one, that's why
I say not to cut you off. The only reason people know who
the fuck he is is because he wasa mash brothers fighting people
right? Other than and that no one would
be saying it. It's F0 is neglected.
F0 the series is neglected. He is not a neglected mascot.

(59:36):
Exactly. He is a pointless mascot.
What did he throw hands in the F0?
I gotta give him Cool you have. To play the story.
Well. Playing the story well, he's got
some he's he's, he's got characterization.
Let him have his vote. I'm not going.
To go in depth on this because that would be pointless, yeah.

(59:57):
So he's going into pointless. Pointless.
Yeah. He is not a character.
In the game, yeah. I don't care what speech bubble
he has exactly. Never controlled this guy in any
F0 game if they took him out of the game.
And smashed there was. No, there was no.
Open world thing where you play as if you're in a fucking car.
It's for the most part for. The Super Nintendo when they
picked the red car they didn't even fucking pick captain.

(01:00:19):
Exactly. You probably never seen past.
This dude's neck, yeah. Exactly not a.
Mascot. We're not talking about.
Game series that are neglected. We're talking about mascots.
Yes, F0F. Zero is neglected, F0 is
neglected. This Falcon is pointless.
Isn't there another guy? Another like a bigger dude.
He's green. I don't even.
Fuck, I don't even. Know dude exactly.

(01:00:43):
He's got a bandana. Yeah.
So we're point we're at. Pointless, but he's got like a
rival. He's an all red and put him in
pointless. He's going to put him in
pointless. I'm not wasting more time on
this. Yeah, we got to fly through
these because. We still got so much more.
Yeah, dude, we got. 1/2. Three we got to get.
Some less support guys, we got alot.
We got quite a few. We're starting to get to the
Yeah, the ones we're throwing away.

(01:01:04):
Yeah, these are the throwaways. Kind of.
No, actually, no. Cool.
We. Have Yoshi.
He debuted in Super Mario World.He became a fan favorite with
his own series. He's a lovable dinosaur
sidekick. He can use his tongue to grab
stuff. He can throw eggs and do a
flutter jump. Yeah, yeah.

(01:01:25):
Yeah. Yeah, You want this one of me?
Yeah. And I'll go, Yeah, he's a, I'm
going to say, OK, he's a OK mascot because Super Mario
World. Arguably one of the greatest.

(01:01:45):
Platformers and when they introduced him in it, it was
awesome. It was cool, but.
He's OK. He's OK.
I don't. I don't dislike him.
I like them in and also in. In what you call it.
In Galaxy Mario Galaxy Two, Yeah, it was.

(01:02:08):
Awesome. Which I wish they port that
fucking game anyway. Yeah.
But yeah, he's he's OK, he's OK.I agree.
He's. He's not.
He's not neglected, he's OK. I I agree he's.
OK, I'm not a huge fan of fan ofYoshi but like I guess it was
fun using him in Super Mario World but he I can't give him a

(01:02:28):
mascot and iconic status becauselike Mario's the he's he can't
be the mascot of. You know what I mean?
He's like a. Sidekick More.
More than a mask, he's like a really good.
He's like a good second Robin, right?
Yeah. Yeah, a good second, Robin.
Yeah, he's. He's OK, he's OK, He's Pluto
ain't getting iconic. Mascot for Mickey Mouse.

(01:02:51):
Like. All right, I'll go with yeah,
he's OK. You know, his games, he's I got
to go with OK, Like he every time he's in the Mario game,
usually makes that Mario game better because of his inclusion.
When he has his own games, the kind of niche, I would say I
never they're always pretty good, you know, But it's they're
not up there with Mario, you know, they're not, they don't,

(01:03:12):
they don't get the sales, they don't get the recognition.
It's just like, yeah, it's just,you know, I guess, you know, I
guess he could pull a game by himself sometimes, but no, I'm
not. Yeah, It's OK.
OK. This is OK.
Yeah. Yoshi.
Yoshi and a Mario game is cool Yoshi.
Has a character. And mascot is OK because him by
himself. It's sad, yeah, it's all right.

(01:03:34):
It's not bad, but it's. It's like I know who he is.
I. Know he's Yoshi, right?
He's very like iconic looking. I know who he is but I mean, do
I need him to represent Nintendo?
No, right. And like, I don't need him to
represent his own games because they're all right.
So yeah, he's going OK, Yeah. Yoshi's fun in when he's in

(01:03:55):
games as as his own game, as in his own game.
I don't want to fucking use him.Yeah, so he's OK.
Yep. And.
That's. All I have to say, Yep, go in
and. OK.
That's all we need to say, man. He.
Doesn't. I mean, it looks like he belongs
there. I'm not gonna waste time.
Put him ahead of Kirby though. You really?
Yep, you're. Serious.

(01:04:15):
I'm dead serious. Do it.
All right? Do it.
Do it. I don't mind that.
There we go. Fuck Kirby.
All right, next we got. Luigi.
Debuted in Super Mario Brothers in 1983.
Mario Shy, but brave brother finally got a spotlight in
Luigi's Mansion. He's not brave.
He can do high jumps, ghost hunting, and he's great Comic
Relief. Oh yeah.

(01:04:35):
All right, Comic Relief. I feel the same way about Luigi
than to do with with Yoshi. It's the same because he's a
side, He's a he's like a whatchamacallit.
He's like a sidekick more than he is a mascot.
Yeah, he snubbed the shit out ofa box.
Yo. He put Luigi with Yoshi.
Wow. That's how I feel, man.

(01:04:56):
I mean, he's the same. He's don't.
Like Green, he's. A He's a sidekick.
You're being Rex more. Than he is a freaking.
Mascot and it's not a bad it's not a bad thing.
I like I like Luigi's mansion. I like I like what was that the
is it the doctor Luigi? Whatever the version of Doctor
Mario, but he's just the palate swap.
Of Mario 91, he's. Thin.
He's lit. Yeah, he's.

(01:05:16):
Now, now, now he's look at him he likes.
Mushrooms. He's like.
A Dan. From Street Fighter, Yeah,
bizarre, said Luigi, AKA Sticks.Wow.
Wow, look. I.
See the resemblance? That might be worse than being.
Called a mid. Ball stand, dude, there's your
Halloween costume. Just kidding.
Look at that picture. Sticks right?
There. Luigi.

(01:05:38):
I say Luigi's cool. I think he's cool.
I'm gonna leave it at that. I got to give.
Luigi Iconic. You know everybody.
Let's put it this way, besides the fact that he's got his own
freaking series, he's more than just a pallet swap of Mario back
in the days of NES, he came fromthat.
And every time you, you know, every time they came out with a
Mario game, everyone's like, okay, how do I select Luigi is

(01:06:00):
Luigi? And everyone's waiting to hear
about that. No, Mario. 64 Mario 64 They they
wasn't in it. I know.
But they were. Going to put him in it.
I don't care what they were. It's like like, yeah, people
wanted him to be in it, You know, he was a great.
He was like, he's a. Cock he's.
Iconic. He's my.
Recognizable. Listen, I'm.

(01:06:21):
Not going to step on Luigi as like a crappy character.
Listen, he's not iconic. He's there.
Mario Brothers. Yes, he's iconic in the name
himself. I give Luigi.
Cool. I don't put him in the same
category as Mario himself because he's not there with him.

(01:06:43):
He's in cool. He's not.
He's better than OK. You think he's cool?
I think he's cool. As a character, I know Luigi has
a character, I know he has a representation.
That's his character. I'm going to.
Piggyback off of that because that's that's to be honest,
that's fact. All right, Luigi, the fact that
he was more than just the secondplayer after Super Mario, you

(01:07:05):
know Super Mario 2, they had himas his own character.
He could jump higher. They had him selectable in
multiple games. He's he has Luigi's mansion as a
successful series. He's in Smash brothers, he's in
the the movie with Mario, even though he gets captured, you
know he's a cool character. He went from like a scrub to a
cool character that actually is a a second player like a that

(01:07:28):
could, you know, hold his own, not just like a oh, let's just
throw someone in. No, Mario's player one.
He's player 2 and that's cool. However, he is not on the same
level of popularity as Mario. Therefore he is cool, not
iconic. Look, he launched the game.
What? Did everybody say I said.
He launched the game. I said he's cool.

(01:07:50):
I said he's cool. I.
Cool. Iconic.
Oh, so OK, he's going. He's going to cool.
Yeah. All right, all right, save it
for the next character. He ain't going ahead of Samus,
though. Yeah, Hell.
Samus. Samus gets.
That that's not going ahead of Samus.
Luigi's a cool character. He's a cool character.
Yeah, the death stare. And Mario Kart.
Yeah. And that he's his.

(01:08:11):
Popularity has risen like like alot of cool shit, but he is not
Mario. He's got a dark side.
I have to play it again so. I mean like old.
Kevin Lawrence, here we go. Next one we got.
We got nest from. Earthbound in 1994 he's a cult

(01:08:31):
classic protagonist no more via smash symbol of quirky RPG
storytelling. He has psychic powers, a
baseball bat and a yo-yo. All right, I'll.
Start this. I got it and neglected.
Neglected. OK, that's it.
That's. All I can say what?
You got alright? Never.
Played earth brown either. So pointless.

(01:08:55):
Pointless. Because I haven't played
Earthbound so I haven't played it either, but I.
Still, like Earthbound man, it'sgot.
Such let me get started. But we use.
Iconic. No, I got.
Look, I'm going to start all right, talk about him for a
little bit and that's just a very, very interesting
character. I hated this game when it first
came out earthbound, but I like it a lot.
No man, but it's it's like I don't think he's neglected.

(01:09:16):
His series is neglected as a mascot.
He's not popular, but he's nicheas you guys like to say I.
Gotta get he's cool. Man, he's got cool powers, he's
got the lightning, he said one fuck, he's got the PK fire, he's
got the size, the the magnet, the rain.
He's just like he has one stand alone game.
And he's several Smash brothers.He's.

(01:09:37):
Got he's got the Batman. He's asking his father for
allowing he's been in more SmashBrothers.
Games in his own series, it's yeah.
That's true. That's the definition.
Of neglected, yeah. He's a neglected character, but
not he's cool. I'm like he's, I gotta put him
in. Wow.
I, I feel it. I'm, I'm feeling it.
I don't. Think he's?
The next accident? OK, Ness.

(01:09:59):
Earthbound's a great. Game Earthbound is an amazing
game. If you haven't played it, play
it. Ness is not a.
Mascot for anything. For anything.
He's not a mascot you've never seen if you've seen Ness or
Nintendo anywhere. Never.
Never. He's a garbage mascot.

(01:10:21):
Mascot the 1st in garbage. Right, his character.
His. Character's fine.
And Earthbound, the one game he's in, yeah, he's not a mascot
at all. So you know what?
You know what I got? I got to and.
It kind of swayed me a bit because Ness is the main
character of Earthbound, and then you have Lucas, who's the

(01:10:43):
main. Character.
Of mother three that never came out.
So Ness 22. Ness, this is in two games.
OK, So it's like he's a mascot. He's a mascot.
The quirky I can't I. Can't argue that he is pointless

(01:11:05):
as a no. He is.
No, he is pointless as a mascot.As a character, he's not a bad
character. I don't think he's a bad
character. As a mascot, he doesn't even
count as. A mascot?
No, no. That's why I.
Put him in garbage. Yeah, yeah.
It's it's, it's Kirby was pointless.
That's a mascot 'cause he's considered a mascot.
He's Ness is not a mascot, no. Yeah, I'm gonna give him.

(01:11:28):
I'm gonna give him pointless. I'm gonna give him pointless.
Oh wow. So we got 2 pointless.
Pointless, I would have. Been I'm going to open the icon.
I said neglected. Nothing you said neglected.
Wow so we got 2 pointless other than smash brothers?
What? Else has he been in?
He's on a pointless damn. I would have been the. 1st in
gone. Wow, he's going in a.

(01:11:48):
Pointless right next to Captain.I was close to that.
I was. I love Earthbound, don't get me
wrong. I.
Love that game to that he's a dope that's a dope but for but
for me there's. Only one one person.
It could only go. It could have either gone
neglected or pointless. The only reason he moved up is
because. His game is good, Yeah.
Wow. And he?
Was in. A bunch of Smash brothers, so

(01:12:09):
you know, that's the only game he's been in that saved him
somehow. He's one of the most annoying
the. Only game.
Only game he's been. Added to who we got.
Olamar from. Pikmin 2001 Introduced in a
unique strategy puzzle hybrid, Underdog Captain with Charm.
His ability to command Pikmin, puzzle solve, and collect

(01:12:30):
resources makes him a formidableopponent.
Why are we wasting time? Garbage going in the fucking
garbage. Garbage.
If there's any other vote for this is garbage 100 times over,
I'm not even going to explain it.
He's going in the fucking garbage.
Anyone disagree? And I like, I like puzzle games
and stuff, but yeah, no. What?
Turbo? What do you?

(01:12:50):
What do you? Where does he belong?
Turbo? No, Look at his face.
Look at his freaking squeeze. No explanation.
Just say it. He belongs in the fucking
garbage. Just say it.
Why are we wasting time, Chuck? What?
I wouldn't need to. Say he's trying.
He's. Kind of cool.
Man, no. No, no, no, this guy is on the

(01:13:14):
garbage. Garbage I.
Never liked him as a. Character thank.
Terrible character space. Terrible mascot.
That's the fastest pick ever, regardless of terrible.
Mascot you have. Four of them.
He's not the. Hero.
He's garbage. Then he's fucking trash.
He's not even the hero of his own.
Series. He's garbage.
The first two, the first two next, but he's terrible move.

(01:13:35):
On Next. Terrible fucking.
Trash Here we go y'all. This is very good Spicy we have.
Isabelle. She debuted an Animal Crossing
New Leaf in 2012. She's a breakout character that
turned franchise face and bodiescozy gaming.
She can manage towns, she's verycheerful and she's so
supportive. Fucking garbage.

(01:13:55):
Too. Throw her in there with a
fucking Alamar. Throw her in the garbage.
I would put her in. Pointless.
I'm that's. I would I can't say garbage
because I know the the the the Animal Crossing franchises as a
whole is a huge I don't give a fuck.
She's going a lot of people likethis character.
So I'm going to say pointless. I'll say pointless on the.

(01:14:16):
Mask. She I mean.
Garbage. She's great for the franchise,
but she's pointless as a mascot.Yeah, pointless.
Yeah, pointless. Pointless it is.
Next you said garbage. Let me say I I know I got out
rule, but she's kind of iconic. Now, right?
Stop it. It's like not even close.

(01:14:38):
Not even close. No, going to pointless not.
Even close. None of us here has played the
Animal Crossing game, so we're not the demographic for it.
But yeah, she's a pointless guy.I will send you to a corner.
To play that game. Pointless.
We made this list. We.
Actually made this asking. He's the 1st.
Party. First party.
We made it. Yeah.

(01:15:00):
Next one on the list, Sonic the Hedgehog.
Debuted in Sonic the Hedgehog 1991, He's Sega's answer to
Mario icon of the 1990s with attitude and speed.
He is supersonic speed, he can spin dash and he has an he has
an attitude. Iconic.
Iconic, iconic. Don't even have to explain.

(01:15:21):
Everybody knows Iconic put him. Ahead of Mario.
I. Said it say so easy.
Fight me. Put him ahead of.
Mario Easy now I'm putting. Link less he is very recognized.
Links Games. Sell more than Sonic, there's no
reason to waste. Time on Sonic, he just put him
right next to Mario. That's right.
That's where he belongs. Yeah, easily.

(01:15:44):
Easily don't know if that's true.
Dude, you must. He's got he's.
Got tons of cartoons, he's got tons of comics.
Caps like guys. Taste movies.
You know who Sonic is. How many?
How many all the movies are there?
You also Sonic 3. Look man, they.
Had a cartoon way before Sonic Three.
Stop it, move on. Wow.
You also Sonic 3. That's all I'm gonna say.

(01:16:04):
You also Sonic 3. Shut up.
All right, next one he. Said shut up.
Yeah, Crash Bandicoot. Debuted in Crash Bandicoot 1996,
Playstation's early mascot, to find 3D platforming charm.
He can spin attack and smash crates, and he's a goofball
personality. Damn goofball personality.

(01:16:28):
Yeah, I'm going to say. He's not cool.
Damn. He's not really iconic.
Either. He's kind of a Sony.
Failed mascot. He's like failed, so call.
Him in a reject. I'm going to say he's OK
because. I do, I love the games.

(01:16:48):
I'm going to say he's OK. Chad, what you got?
I didn't. Play any of the.
Games so we can throw him in thetrash.
Wow, that's dish. Wow.
You could have said pointless. You could have said and you
could have said any other just the way he said it.
He said I play any of the games.You could throw him in the
trash. You could have said.

(01:17:08):
Pointless. I'm going to understand.
That. That is.
Bad. Disrespectful.
He hit him. With the left hook, he's
definitely you know what? Just because I don't want to
put. Him next to.
Olomar, I'll put him in pointless.
Oh no, yeah, Olomar deserves that.

(01:17:30):
I'm not going to disrespect. We don't deserve.
To be my bad, my bad, crash my. Bad crash.
My bad. I like Crash Bandicoot's design,
you know, I, I thought I played the first one for a little bit,
you know, especially that demo stage that's in Uncharted 4.
I'm not, but I play a little bitmore than that.
That's my experience. That's your experience.

(01:17:52):
It's good. I like.
It's a linear, straightforward platform in gaming.
I think he's got a cool, you know, spin attack thing and you
know, hop on people. I I think he's cool.
I think he's cool. He's a cool looking character.
I think they were. It was a good answer to Mario
for them at the time. So.
What? He said.
Cool. So you said cool.
He's a cool looking character. And he's like, yeah, so he got 1
pointless. I-1 OK and one cool shit's all

(01:18:15):
over the place so. Listen, Crash Bandicoot was
second to, well, third to Mario and Sonic.
He was top tier mascot. He was a mascot for Sony
regardless of if he was owned bySony or not.
The problem is he's not owned bySony anymore.

(01:18:36):
No, he's Michael's off. Now that's why he's on the list,
which is crazy because he was formerly.
Sony, he's an activism. But I still consider him one of
the great mascots of our time. But I would have to I.

(01:18:59):
Love it when someone. Takes it.
Everyone takes a deep. Breath.
They're like the games are fun. He can't go.
He can't. Go in iconic because this was
like just the 90s. He was the mascot for Sony in
the 90s. If someone gave him iconic.
I would I would have them drug tested.
That's yeah, yeah, I'm looking at this game.
And at the and the platforming alone, I'd have been like
turning this game. Oh, it's a tough game.

(01:19:20):
Yeah, yeah, I played the 4th 1 the the last one that came out
as a mask. It was good.
As a mascot, I would. Have to put him more than OK
though, I have to give him his respect.
As a mascot. He has to go and cool, OK, his
games were neglected. His games like certain, like at
a certain point he was very neglected as that.

(01:19:42):
But as a mascot, he was one of the big mascots.
Yep. I always appreciated.
The attempt, but I always joked around and said he was a failed
mascot. He would say that.
He just, he didn't. The thing is, he just didn't
have it. You know, you know, when it's
just like, hey, he's designed. I have no issues with his design

(01:20:03):
as a mascot. I just don't think he had
crashed 1-2 and three. He didn't, he didn't he didn't
have that charisma. He didn't have that.
Oh my God, I got to play a crashgame like I never funny thing is
like Mario and Sonic games, likethere aren't even like my type
of games, but I find a way to play them Crash games I want
nothing to do with. So it's like, but The thing is,

(01:20:23):
is that 4 this is it. I, I, I I'm not.
I will not. Put him in garbage and I won't
put him in pointless because I don't think he's a point.
I think he was, you know, good for the time.
But he didn't have the longevityof Sonic and Mario.
He didn't hold up. I won't put him on cool either.
So I think he's OK. So you agree with me?
Yeah, I think he'll be OK. Yeah, he's an OK mascot.

(01:20:47):
And I love the games. I love the games, but as a
mascot I think he was. He's just overshadowed by Sonic
and Mario and by a lot. And the Tasmanian.
Dental what the Tasmany. Tasmanian dinner Are you hungry?
Tasmanian. Dental.
You know I'm done, man. I'm I say cool, so we got. 2
cools. Cools 2 OK's and.
Two OK's. And oh shit and a.

(01:21:09):
Pointless. Pointless.
It comes down to the chat. Oh wow, what?
Do you guys think of? Crash Bandicoot in the chat.
You guys hold the fate. Of Crash Bandicoot, is it cool
or OK? What do you think you should go
on the? List we got to give you your
your time here on YouTube. Let's see.

(01:21:30):
Where? Does it go?
Shall. We flip a coin.
Or if you want to do oh you. Want to average?
Chalks. Chalks vote, Desire says.
Cool. Chalk, chalk, chalk.
Had a vote. Too, he said cool and OK, that's
so divided. Oh.
Man. Cafe said OK.
Cafe stairs it. To OK, OK, unless Paul give it a

(01:21:51):
second give. It a second, give me 5 more
seconds. Let him marinate 432120 second
time delay though. No, they're already in.
The time delay, all right. So it's going OK, OK it is.
Looks like it's OK. Wow.
Unless it gets swayed. Yeah, it's going OK.

(01:22:11):
That's. Algae.
Slime. That's hilarious.
It's already going. It's.
OK, damn it. I got.
Cheating attached to 1. You already passed.
I already passed. Attached to cheating.
It's OK. It's all right ahead of Yoshi.

(01:22:31):
Yeah. Head of Yoshi and Kirby behind
Donkey coming out. Yeah, That's.
That's fine. Yeah.
All right. That is fast.
Of course, Becky. Chuck this.
Chuck. This shit all over Yo, you said
that. Right off the garbage trash.
That was great. I'm like.
Damn man. You never played.
Any of the games, yeah, that was.
That was the best, like I'm sureof it.

(01:22:52):
Nah, never played them trash. Wow, you threw them under the
bus man right off the we're going to get a lot of those
coming up. We're going to get a lot of Oh
yeah, fuse with another marsupial.
I think he was confused. What we got all right?
This is going to be a quick one y'all.
Spyro. Debuted in Spyro the Dragon in
1998. He's a lovable dragon with

(01:23:13):
smooth platform and gameplay andearly 3D icon.
He can glide, he has fire breathand he can treasure hunt.
Oh yeah, what you got? I'm going to say neglected.
OK, I like the games. I had the first one and I liked
it a lot. And I I played the what was the

(01:23:35):
the reboot that they did or the remaster?
Whatever, and. And that was cool too.
So yeah, definitely neglected because I haven't seen him in
anything else and they haven't even made a new game in a long
ass time. And you don't really see him.
And I think he's a cool as a character, as a mascot.

(01:23:55):
I think he looks cool. I like his powers and stuff.
But they just gave up on him because I haven't seen him in
anything. It was another Sony time.
Period. So right you got.
Didn't play any of the games. Put them in pointless.
This guy, man, How about? You ruthless chalk.

(01:24:16):
Chalk is ruthless. Pointless, I'm putting them.
Yeah, I guess neglected. Yeah, I know about the games.
It's got cool design, but he's when's the last time you had the
game? How long ago was this?
The the he's? Followed the same exact.
Path that crashed it, Yeah, OK, very.
Similar, very similar. Neglected.
I'll say neglected. Wasn't a bad character.

(01:24:39):
No, yeah, it's. Like it's it's.
Yeah, neglected breathes fire and shit you.
Could glide and I'd like to see a new.
One. I'd like to see a modern one.
Same, but they forgot about him.Yeah, I never cared much for
the. Series, but the character
himself. He was I.
Mean he's a Sony mascot, right? Along with Crash, he was also in
the same company, which is not Microsoft.

(01:25:03):
So you're going to check down. Microsoft.
Microsoft. Mascot now, but yeah, I would
put him in OK, but I mean he's. Probably going to go to
neglected. As far as?
Our votes will go unless, Unless.
You know, styles. Say OK, but I might as.

(01:25:23):
Well, just. Just put him in neglected.
Just get it over with. It goes in trash.
I'm joking. I'm joking, I'm joking.
I actually like his. I don't.
I didn't play his games. I like his design though.
I like. I do like the concept of what he
looks like or what they tried todo with him.
I don't know enough about the release of the games to say that
he's neglected. I'm just going to go off his

(01:25:45):
design and what they tried to do.
So I'm going to say he's OK. Oh wow, say he's OK.
He doesn't aggravate. Me on his design I see what they
were trying to do from the footage and it doesn't look like
it's a terrible game no, and it actually still holds up like
it's a cool idea. It still holds up now too,
because a lot of these coming upthat I haven't played the games
of is all about design and what they tried to do right.

(01:26:07):
That's what I'm gonna judge it on.
And if it looked like it could have been successful when he
tried to target. His more to children later in
the game, but the fact that Dragon's talking.
With his hands is crazy. Yeah, well, this is early.
This is early Early, let me tellyou.
So you put your fucking hands down.
Let me tell. You you never seen a dragon do
that? Yeah, he's like.
Freestyle they do. So I say.

(01:26:28):
OK, I'd love to see a new game and we would have been tied.
So that's all right. Where are we?
I said. Pointless.
I mean, no, no, you said. Neglected, I said.
I said neglected, neglected, neglected.
I think they could have went further.
So it goes neglected. Yeah, go for it.
I think they could have went. Further with Spiral, that's
fair, definitely. They neglected.
It they can still do it. He could be flying right along.

(01:26:48):
With Fox McLeod. Yeah, yeah, yeah, true.
True. Funny, they both.
Fly. Oh, look at, look at the list.
And it's not everything's not iconic anymore.
You look at that. It's not.
A big F. Either anymore.
Yeah, I said it was. Alrighty.
So the next one we got. Kratos.
Debuted in God of War in 2005, he's a brutal anti hero turned

(01:27:09):
tragic father flagship for PlayStation Maturity.
He has the Blades of Chaos, Ragemode, and Mythic Vengeance.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah, Kratos.
I'm going to say Kratos boy. He's iconic, man.
Boy, Kratos is iconic. If it if you played the games.
If you haven't, everybody knows Kratos.

(01:27:31):
God of War Iconic. Unless you're Mikey Bees, then
you think he's on Xbox. Damn.
Yeah, he's iconic then. Agree, Kratos is iconic.
Yep. I'm yeah, no.
Need to say much? The hell did you just.
Say, don't need to add much to. That yeah, he's iconic.

(01:27:52):
He's iconic. Dope character, great story,
great design. Yeah, image wise.
He is a mascot for Sony. He's definitely for them there.
He's iconic for them. Yep.
You see that face right now? He's not on anything else.
He's iconic for Sony as a mascot.
I'm gonna. Be a devil's.
Advocate, I'm gonna say he's cool, so I'm not gonna argue

(01:28:12):
that because he's iconic for Sony, but not iconic for people
who are all kinds of gamers, youknow, like you could say they
know Mario, but they don't know Yeah, well, this is yeah, this
is Kratos is not as well known as Mario.
So when I think iconic, I think Mario, I think Sonic.
Kratos is not on that level for as far as Sony, yes, he is for

(01:28:34):
that, for that console, for those, for that company.
So I'm gonna say cool. I'm gonna say cool, all right.
Put him ahead of Mario. Wow, wow.
Head of Mario. That's not gonna happen, dude.
I know, but yeah, Kratos. Kratos is a well known I.
Think he needs a movie? I'll put him that would.

(01:28:56):
Help. Yeah.
Like as far as world? Known, I think a movie would be.
Fantastic. Yeah, he.
Should go. I think he's at the.
Point he's at. The definitely, man.
And get a new actor if you're gonna do that, man, Come on, Get
these guys. Get out, Triple H get Triple H
The same 10 actors are in every freaking movie now let's make.
Let's make the Rock, Kratos. He's in everything.
The Rock, Yeah. Kevin Hart.

(01:29:18):
Plays Kratos. Let me stop Kevin Hart.
That's what every. Fucking would be.
Hilarious bro. No Kratos.
Kratos will be the. Rock and his son will be Kevin
Hart. The fucking.
Oh, dude, yes, that's actually funny.
I think they're gonna do that. It's a comedy yet,
unfortunately. That'd be amazing.
Come on, same day this damn. Street by the movies, damn what
we got. So we put him in iconic.
Next one we got is. Sackboy.

(01:29:43):
Debuted in Little Big Planet in 2008.
Charming face of creativity and user generated content.
He can platform costume change and has physics based gameplay.
Yeah, man, you going? 1st to me.
I'm going first, I'm going to say he's a cool mascot.
I played all the little big Planet games, and it's the first

(01:30:06):
of all the. What is it?
Medium Molecules is a company, yeah.
They they do games. That are like creative, very,
very creative games and. This mascot.
Pretty much is like a representation of creativity,
like the whole world and everything where you can make
your, you make your levels and stuff like that and.

(01:30:26):
Yeah, I'm going to say he's. He's cool.
That's my book. Talk.
Sorry guys. Never.
Played any of these little big planet, so I gotta I don't I
don't understand his significance to be honest, so I
got to put him in pointless. Sorry, don't be.
Sorry man, that's your. Opinion.

(01:30:47):
Yeah, let. Me see sack boy.
I don't like his design. I never liked his design.
I think the games look kind of cool.
I think the last one he's got islike multiplayer looks like
Mario 3D World a little bit. So I guess, you know, he's a
good face of, you know, kid friendly platforming.
But design's awful. I'd say garbage.
Wow, he went to pointless to garbage.

(01:31:08):
He went to pointless to garbage.Just dropped him down a tear
right now. Just the way he looks and stuff.
It's like, you know, they got better mascots than him.
You know, it's just, it's just, but you, you never played the
games. I played him.
I, I, I fought him in PlayStation All Stars.
No, you fought against him. You fought against him.
Yeah, it was. Fun to kill, that's about it.
I've seen the games. I I know they they look good.

(01:31:28):
If you played the games, I thinkyou would.
Change your opinion. Remember this is judging the
mascot, not the games. I understand mascot, but not the
games. But the game his he's made for
that. That freaking game.
So as a mascot. I see him more as a mascot for
the Vita and the PS3 that was perfect when it was as far as

(01:31:49):
character. He's literally a doll like a
like. Get a yarn.
But there's no. I mean, he smiles, but there's
no personality. He's literally a doll for you to
create, to put things on. He could change his face.
But. As a mascot, I think he's

(01:32:11):
pointless. There's no need for Sag Boy.
I mean, they tried. They really tried.
They even bought out for APSPS 5and no one said anything about
that. It's a it's a bail mascot.
It's pointless. He's not garbage, he did his
thing, he represented what he did, but I think it's a
pointless mascot. He's right there with Kirby.
He's literally Kirby. Like that's just a BLOB as a

(01:32:34):
character. Plays like Astrobot.
But the character. But yeah, he's.
Literally just. The the make whatever you want.
So yeah, he's not no aura, no. Charisma don't.
Don't care about. He's pointless.
He's a sack. Hold on.
He's a sack. He probably.
Has great. Probably has great games but he
he is pointless. Look at him.

(01:32:57):
Yeah, all right. So sack boys.
Going in pointless, AL's not feeling I'm not liking this.
Not liking this. I'm not liking this.
Man, I like. It when someone gets mad on the
make him the best of the pointless.
Exactly there might. Be more of this.

(01:33:17):
Going on so Oh yeah, I. See, I see a couple more going
on. Oh boy, that's.
Going to happen. We got Ratchet, who debuted from
Ratchet and Clank in 2002. He's a blended shooting and
platforming with humor and heart.
That's what he's known for. He has gadgets.
Wrench, combat, Lomback's back story.

(01:33:37):
Mm. Hmm.
Mm hmm, Ratchet from. Ratchet and Clank love the
games. He is pointless.
He is like I as as far as. Like.
A mascot like his design and everything.
It's a point like. It doesn't make me excited, like

(01:34:01):
I don't think it's bad or anything like that, but it just
as a. Mascot to.
Represent a company? Nah, pointless.
Ratchet, sorry. I haven't played any of the
games, so go by go by the. Picture the last one, the.
Last ratcheting clank that released the PS-5 looked like it

(01:34:22):
was really effing cool, but it was.
Yeah, I didn't play it. So I'm gonna call him pointless,
sorry. Damn.
Damn, I think the character looks cool.
OK. And the gameplay did look pretty
cool, very recognizable. People do anticipate these games

(01:34:42):
when they're announced. I'll give it, I'd say pointless.
I I, I cool, cool. I think the design's cool.
Cool, right under iconic. Not an iconic.
You know it isn't OK. There's oh, there's OK, right?
There's wow, but he looks cool now.
He's OK now he's OK. That's cool.
No, no, let's do. OK, let's do.
OK, let's go. I'll thumb and thumb.
OK. Oh man.

(01:35:05):
All right as a. Character.
He's never. Been my thing as a mascot, cool
games, cool guns. But him as a character, he's,
he's cool in the game. I put him in OK.
He's not failed, he's not failed, it's fine.
But for me he never really hit amark or anything.
So not pointless, but OK for me.Never played his games, put up

(01:35:33):
his his design again. I get nothing from damn his
design. I'm not saying it's a bad
design, I just get nothing from it.
Like I'm just like. All right, it's just kind of
like, hey, let's just make a, a game with a furry character and
really be like. A slightly.
Cooler crash. It's just.

(01:35:53):
It's just like. I like.
The games too and it's like I get nothing from him so I'm
putting him pointless. What?
Do we got? Yeah, what is this like?
We got three points, I said. Pointless.
Who else said pointless? I did too.
Oh, you did OK. So like.
He's going to pointless going. To pointless.
Damn. Don't why you mad like.

(01:36:13):
Like a. As talking is like, you know,
put him ahead of sack boy, please.
But no, you know he's not doing that shit.
Yo, I was waiting for it. He said no, no garbage.
I. Was holding a grudge.
Against this damn. Actually move sack boy.
Down the the garbage. Putting him in iconic.

(01:36:35):
He's literally a garbage bag. He is.
Damn. Sack of the tank, he looks.
Like a sack of shit. What you got next?
He has personality. Tank.
He waves. He could control his fucking.
Face. He could make him smile and
fucking run. Go ahead.
Sorry, Get. Back to this shit.

(01:36:56):
We have got. Sly Cooper He debuted in Sly
Cooper in The Devious Raccoonessfrom 2002.
Yes, stylish stealth platformer hero with a comic book vibe.
He has stealth, Kane combat and heist missions.
Yeah, as a as a mascot, I think his design is cool.

(01:37:19):
But. They haven't done anything with
this character in a long ass time so he's pretty.
Neglected. But.
Shit. It I'm stuck between.
Cool. Damn it, man.
Would. You like to?
I don't want to say. OK, yeah, go ahead, man.
I need some time to think. I'm going.

(01:37:40):
I love his design, man. I think his design's very cool,
but I don't hear shit about anything he's been in, so I'm
going to say this dude has been neglected.
I think that's the only answer. It seems like a really cool
design. It's got like a I wish it was in
more games. Like if, like Ratchet.
And Clank does not have that, that feel swag.

(01:38:00):
But yeah, yeah, he doesn't have that.
I think Sly Cooper does. He's got a person.
Yeah, he does not person. Yeah.
And yeah, he's like a type of character, like, Or if they
released a new one, I'd be like,oh, how I wonder how it plays.
Right. It's a trilogy.
And they they just remastered it.
Recently so like his design, I would say his.

(01:38:21):
Design is cool. I like his design A lot.
I. Wish they used him more though.
Yeah, they didn't really utilize, but he's fucking
neglected. So I'm I'm going to say he's
neglected. You know what I was torn between
because I was torn between cool because I really love the design
and neglected, but the fact thathe hasn't been used in anything,
and I wish he was, I'll say the same, neglected.

(01:38:43):
I like his design though, I really do because.
Really, really dope. How about you, Chop?
I haven't played any of the games he.
Does look cool but I'm putting him in pointless come.
On baby, I'm sorry we got healed, chopped, anything he

(01:39:05):
hasn't played, pointless. Everything you have to play.
If I haven't played it. I mean, no, but honestly if he
hasn't, if it had like I haven'tplayed a whole bunch.
Of Mario games. But Mario's impact is
undeniable. You know what I mean?
I got you for me. I haven't played any Sly Cooper
games, but I have no impressionsof him.
You know what I mean? What about his look, man?
You ain't hanging. He does look cool, all right,

(01:39:27):
but he's pointless. You ain't hanging with that.
Huh. You ain't hanging.
With Sly Cooper. No.
All right, so we got 2/2. 2 neglected. 1 Pointless.
Neglected. Neglected.
Yeah, I wouldn't put. Neglected because he's just.
His trilogy is done. It isn't no more.
They could do it on them, Yeah, but as far as.

(01:39:50):
Him being. Like needed.
As a mascot, I mean, he was around.
I said he was. OK, he was never a standout
mascot. For me at least, I wish he was.
He's cool looking, his games look cool.
They still. Stand out like.
As far as design was the the comic book look of it was cool,

(01:40:10):
but I said he was never enough to like.
I don't like what was it late? It was probably late in the PS2
days yeah. Was it PS2 or three MPs 2 foggy
at that time? Yeah, I he's not.
He can't be in a cool. Category as far.
As mascots, his design. Yeah, design is cool as a

(01:40:32):
mascot, as a character, he. Should be up and cool, but yeah,
right. I think he was an.
OK, Mascot got three games that were all great.
Yeah, but I don't think he's neglected.
I mean. I do because that's it.
They don't. You don't see he's not in Smash.
He's. Not in anything, but I think not
in any other games. I think he had his run and then
they just, that's it. They called it.

(01:40:52):
They went on to the. Other game he's a mascot that
just finished his and yeah, that's like this.
Cycle. Yeah, it's like, that's not
like. Every video game heaven well.
I'm saying it's not like every every 5 to 10 years there's a
new slide like there's just no. Talk.
There's just, well, I'll put it to you this way, Crash Bandicoot
had a trilogy, right that. Should be the complete no.
He's had a trilogy for a longesttime and then years later they

(01:41:14):
just released a four. No, no, no, no.
There was like 7 before 4 that's.
The well, that's they also had athey also had the rating racing
different. Well, no there.
Was crash bash There was done tons out of the crash game.
Just wore 2 and or 45 whatever but.
That's like at at. Game 10 they came out with four
this was three games called it aday.

(01:41:35):
They moved on to what did they do next?
They they remastered them No, no, the next game like you know,
they did a. Trilogy.
And moved on to another character and.
Then you know that's done. So they don't really jump back,
especially in that time. Just you could always bring back
a mascot. Character and put him in.
Any story you want. To so it's like they finish this
story, but that doesn't mean they can't be like, oh, we just,

(01:41:57):
it's, you know, he died in the last one.
Exactly, exactly. So you could always bring him
back, you know, 'cause he's a cool character, man, He's such a
cool character. I guess.
I guess you want me over when neglected 'cause they just
haven't done. Anything with him?
Yeah, they could 'cause he's still popular enough.
If they did it, I think it wouldsell too.
I think if they did they releaseit now, it would sell, yeah.
Neglected to do this. Neglected.

(01:42:19):
Sad. Sadly, he's neglected.
He's going to go there anyway. Whatever I pick.
It's sad though. I wish he wasn't Nicole.
Oh, look at all this is all overthe place.
And I love it. We need more for garbage.
Oh, we'll get there. Oh, we'll get there.
Actually, this first party. So maybe not.
Well, no, there's going to be. Someone let's go.
Blinks. Blinks.

(01:42:39):
Debuted in Blinks. The time sweeper.
In 2002. Microsoft's experimental mascot
early time manipulation gameplay.
He can. He has time control, vacuum
device and time crystals. Speaking of garbage, I never
played the game. Who the fuck is this?
I never. Played this game, but I had to,
I had to lick this up because I was like, what the fuck?
Pull. Pull that character up again.
I'll put this shit up. And you know, you know, you know

(01:43:01):
the character. You know a.
Mascot. Is bad when you're looking.
On you're trying. To Google.
Images and there's only three images.
I feel like I I I spoke this shit into existence.
I said there's only one garbage.No blinks goes right there next
to Alomar. Yes, that is a garbage character
failed. That's a failed mascot, and
that's how many colors you gonnaput on that motherfucker?

(01:43:23):
This is a Microsoft mascot. Red red pants, blue blue outfit,
green eyes, orange tail. What the fuck?
Looks like Skittles. Get this fucking character out.
Microsoft tried to push this shit.
He looks like a corporate designlike 1.
Like how do we make this cool character?
And I I guarantee they were on the cusp of making something
cool. And they did.
Just fucking fell apart. Never played the games though.

(01:43:46):
At the time they were really trying though.
They came out with two of them. Yeah, they came out, they
pushed, they tried to put my vote is garbage.
Anyone else? I mean, I don't like his design
at all. He's a.
Cat with freaking. Goggles and A and a freaking
turtleneck. Well, seeing his his gains,
about time. I think it's time.
To throw this in the trash, and it's also about a vacuum and I

(01:44:10):
think it sucks, What would you turn?
Let's see, I don't think his design looks.
Bad. Actually I I.
They use a lot of colours. He doesn't look like a bad.
And remember, I'm not saying thegame is bad.
I know nothing about the game. I'm talking about the game.
As a mascot just looking at him.Dude they had bump napping.
I remember this stuff. I haven't played the game.

(01:44:31):
You played this I've. Never.
Played. The game it.
Wasn't a stand out at all. It was so.
So it was OK. It wasn't bad, it wasn't bad, it
wasn't bad game. It's been worst.
Games, but this is. Very like, ho hum.
It's like, okay, I might say, okay, you ain't putting him in,
okay, he doesn't. Look big what you already?

(01:44:51):
Got 4 trash why even? Bother.
Why bothered argument? I didn't even.
Answer yet, But you know he's going in the trash.
Yeah, I can't. I.
Can't I? I don't have an argument.
To put him anywhere else but trash.
I don't like this at all. I don't know who the hell this
this guy is. Look at that turtleneck.
Man, you don't. Bothers me.
It's the green. The green eyes bother me.
I I. Think it's just like the colors
yeah no there's no the color palette yeah it's just like you

(01:45:13):
forced the Xbox color in his fucking eyes and it looks stupid
if it would be better for match green pants or something if red
blue-green shoes fuck it you know an orange cat with green
with blue and and red and no green eyes fuck that if he's
gonna even be here they grab my ghoulies should be here they're.
Not so. Yeah, Yeah.
There you go. Put him where he belongs.
Right in the toilet trash. What we?

(01:45:35):
Got in that garbage, Sam blinks right next to all know.
Who blinks is. Kev was fighting.
For a character he didn't know, no idea who that is.
Like white knighting for a freaking black character.
Blinking said. That doesn't have a bad look.
How's the? Game the game it looks, it
doesn't. Look too bad.
Never played, yeah, never playedit.
What we got? Next.
All right, next one we got you got Master.

(01:46:01):
Chief debuted in Halo combat. Evolved in two. 1000.
One Xbox's legendary icon redefined console shooters.
He has power armor, tactical warfare, and stoic leadership.
And yeah, mass produced HE. It did look like a mash up of
generic. Mascots, everything.
It's a corporate mascot. Yeah.
Studies together we might have something.

(01:46:22):
What do you guys think? They did a study and they were
like. All right, children like.
That was a cat. Yeah, exactly.
All right. What you got out?
I'm going. To say he's.
Iconic. Master Chief.
Iconic number one. Yeah, he's Master Chief man.
Do you even have to ask? All.
Right. Iconic trash.
Garbage. No.

(01:46:44):
No Master Chief is iconic. Like.
Come on son, he got. But who is Master Chief exactly?
Spartan, John 1/7. 117 is he Doom guy?
No. Doom.
Guy, shut up. Make some difference.
Shut up. Shut up, shut up.
I don't think it's going to. Be a landslide.
It's icon. He's iconic.
Dude. But but for me, he's iconic.

(01:47:07):
As a mascot, Let's see, he did redefine, you know, the first
person. Shooter genre on console.
So he does get credit for that. He always just looked like a
generic stormtrooper to me. Like generic storm, like those,
like a fake. GI Joe.
It's like. He's.
Like. I'm just talking about his
design. I never really, I never liked

(01:47:27):
his design, his character. You know, he's yeah, he's not
really much to me. I gave him like I I would.
He's OK. I think Master Chief is OK.
He's like, yeah, like, yeah, he's he's OK.
You know who he is? I know he Even if you've never
played the game, you know who this.
Character who he is. But I never really.
Liked him? We might have some controversy.

(01:47:50):
I never liked him as a character.
This ain't gonna. Be as cut as dry cut and dry as
you think. I mean, it comes down to my
world because. It's gonna be 3 to 2.
What do? You think?
Listen, do you think Master Chief?
OK, go ahead. Master Chief is an.
Iconic for Microsoft, he. Has to be iconic since day one
since he first came out. That freaking helmet is the

(01:48:11):
mascot. He's the face of Microsoft man.
Xbox is the face the color? Of him is the Xbox itself right?
Like. It's just it's he's the mascot,
like you say, Master Chief, you think?
Microsoft, you don't. Think you know what game you?
Don't think. What game?
No, he I joke right up there. I joke and say what's this Doom
guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(01:48:32):
But but dude guys, not first. Actually, his first.
Party now. Now but but no.
Listen, you know Master Chief, Ifuck.
Around call him Master Chef. All time.
It's hilarious. He's iconic, he's iconic.
Nah, man. My vote doesn't matter to.

(01:48:54):
Say so, but speak from your heart, man.
Surprisingly, I'm not going to say iconic because he's iconic
on a on, on Microsoft. I don't think he's iconic
period. I don't think everyone's going
to know he's not up there with Mario.
So so when I when I, when I think iconic, I think of Mario
and Sonic and I think, do they hold next to him?
No, he does not. He holds just for this console,

(01:49:18):
he holds for Microsoft, and that's what I'm mascot.
And and. And but as as it but that's why
we have tears, right? That's why we have tears.
No, what I'm saying is that, butwhen everyone on the list is a
mascot, what I'm saying what I'msaying as in terms of level of
mascot is iconic is number one in terms of the level of mascot
they are. I don't think he's iconic.
Just because he's number one on Microsoft doesn't mean he's a

(01:49:41):
number one mascot. Here we go.
I get that. See what I'm saying?
But what I was trying to illustrate was that you think
Mario, you think Nintendo automatically.
No, I think I think Mario. I think Mario worldwide.
I don't think Nintendo. But I'm the way I'm putting it
together is you look at you lookat Sonic and you think Sega, you
look at Mario, you think Nintendo, you look at Master

(01:50:02):
Chief, you think I'm thinking World.
I'm thinking that's what I'm saying I'm.
Think I'm thinking. Different than you dude, but
that's why we all have differentfolks.
That's all I'm saying. But I'm saying like when I put
that level of of mascot and the mascot power I got, he does not
hold the candle into those two in terms of impact for
Microsoft. Sure, sure.
And I and I and I think and to kind of go with where Turbo is,

(01:50:24):
is that design wise, he kind of looks like a default soldier.
He kind of does. He reminds me of a glorified
stormtrooper in a sense. And he has a first person games
that were successful, very, verygood games.
But what else? You know what I'm saying?
So it's like you have one genre,first person shooters, you

(01:50:45):
weren't strategy strategy, all strategy games too by default.
And it's like. All right.
What else were you, a playable character in a Smash Brothers
type? Were you?
In Were you in a racing game? Like, like playing a fight game?
Like, like, like, like like, It's like.
No, no. One cares about that alone, but
I'm. Like it's just like, wow, wow.
It's like he's not, he doesn't have.

(01:51:06):
That that. It that's a take, Yeah, it's a
it's a take. Yeah, it.
Is a take. I'm not.
Saying Halo's a great series. It's an opinion.
It's an. Amazing series.
I'm not talking about Halo, I'm talking about Master Chief.
Gotcha. That's what I'm talking about.
So I will put him under cool. All right, He's cool ish.
Yeah, ish. Like a low cool in my opinion is

(01:51:28):
low cool. But he's cool but I don't.
Think I wouldn't argue with that.
I wouldn't argue with him next to Samus.
Yeah, and Samus isn't cool. I'll definitely put Samus ahead
of for. Master Chief, but I.
Mean it's, it is what it is. Everyone, everyone loves their
character. They love their character.
That's why it's an opinion, y'all, it's an opinion.
Your opinion's wrong. The chat is left.

(01:51:50):
I mean, he's, he's. Still.
He's still going into iconic. That's.
Why it's an? Opinion cut this.
Man's mic. He's intelligent.
Wouldn't it be so boring? If we all said the same.
Thing. No, you have to.
Think of like. All right, man, he's going into
iconic, iconic and guys. Think of it this way in the new.

(01:52:14):
Halo Infinite. And it's four players.
They all look exactly the same now.
You can change them now. That's fucking boring now you
can change them now. It's not like they're in in a
Mario 4 player. They're all.
Different characters. Only time you see him is when
you're driving or he's a henchman.
He's a. Glorified henchman.

(01:52:39):
You're just like, you know what?Fuck it.
Put it in garbage. Are you guys going to say?
In Star Wars, the storm troopers, the best character.
Wow. I mean, there is the Silverstone
trooper. Oh my God, you're.
Going to get hate mail. Dude, I had to double.
Down on it, man, I had. To double down.
On the standard chocolates, all right.
I. Cannot stand you.

(01:53:03):
I had to rattle the cage. Whatever, man.
Under Cool Guys. He's under cool.
No, he's under all right. Iconic.
No, no, for me, I'm talking. About how about that?
I'm like. 1. 23456. 7899 left. Yeah.
So this is gonna be. Quick though, this next one is.
Gonna be quick. Steve from Minecraft.

(01:53:23):
Creativity. World building.
Icon. He can craft, he can mine and
sent, and he's a sandbox survivor.
This man is this man is stolen money from kids.
Get this fucking guy in. The trash this is not even a
character. Legos is a character.
This is a piece of shit. This is garbage.
His movie made a billion dollars.
I don't get fuck what he made. He's going in the garbage.

(01:53:45):
You know who also? Made millions and billions of
dollars, Pete. Diddy and he's going to jail.
Fucking throw Steve in fucking trash.
When I think of Steve from Minecraft, I think of Pointless.
That's what I think why the gameis first.
Person. You don't see him.
Really. You see his?
Freaking blocky hands. I'm not a fan, trash.
I'm not a fan. And and look, I I know.

(01:54:06):
I'm I'm. Probably out of touch with this.
But I I don't care about him. I don't care about Minecraft.
Throw him in the trash. Trash.
I'm going to follow him in trash.
Yeah, Minecraft isn't for me. It's.
Not my generation, and I never really.
Picked up on why it's Lego for me.

(01:54:28):
But. Yeah, I feel comfortable putting
him in the trash. We should have changed the.
Category. Name to Minecraft Steve rather
than garbage like this is just just put it Steve.
He's the name. Of the category, it's the
category is Steve Minecraft. Steve.
I hate that design. It's the worst character on this
list. Look at that fucking thing.

(01:54:48):
It's the worst design. It's not a character, it's the
worst block. It's just terrible.
I think a better mascot for Minecraft is a pickaxe.
Yeah, rather than Steve. Yeah, an object.
And an Adam. Yes, that mouth.
Or it could be either or. Yeah.
Is that a mouth or a goatee? He doesn't look happy.

(01:55:10):
That's true. I don't even.
Know if the? Is that a mouth?
I'm thinking goatee and. He's.
Cross eyed I don't who the fuck?No, he's crossed.
Get this fucking guy out. Of here go in the trash.
And you know what? Put him 1.
He Alamar beats him. Put him number.
No, no, no, no. Alamar beats him.
Fuck it. Yeah, Steve is the trashiest
character there. I'm not arguing the trash.

(01:55:32):
I'm not arguing. That's funny, Blinks.
Steve Has he ever spoke? Who?
Steve I don't know, man. I don't play the game.
I. Don't know, I don't know.
I know nothing about. Yeah, he speaks, He goes.
I know nothing about that. Takes everyone's money.
That's his language. We got next.
All right, next we got. Parappa.

(01:55:54):
The rapper. Debuted in.
Parappa the Rapper, 1990. 6 He'sa pioneer of rhythm games on
consoles, became a quirky PlayStation icon known for his
positive vibes and cult following.
He can freestyle rap. He has an upbeat attitude, paper
thin appearance and the motto I gotta believe.
Oh, so he's like a rap. So he's like Naruto.
I have my vote and they're raining.

(01:56:16):
Let's go, let's start. Off with style then, man, he's
pointless. Let's not start out with.
He's a pointless guy. He's damn, he's pointless.
He's pointless. Oh, man, I'm not going to say
he's garbage. Yeah, he's close.
He's pointless. Pointless.
He's the point of him. He can't rap.

(01:56:37):
He's in a rapping game, he can'trap.
What the fuck's the point of him?
He's a piece of paper. He's very he's a very unique
looking mask. He's.
A piece of paper. He's a piece of paper, you know
exactly. Who?
A rapper. Is when you see him, he's got no
St. cred. He's.
From the streets, though. From the streets.
But now. I would put him, as much as I
love a rapper, he's not a big time mascot for Sony.

(01:57:02):
I mean at. One point he would have been
like, oh. That's a representation of the
music genre, yeah. Like the, you know, the rhythm
games, Yeah, that type of stuff.But.
I wouldn't put him. I wouldn't.
Put him up there with everybody.I'll put him in.
Hang on. You know where he belongs.
Just do it. Just do it.
Isn't that pointless? Just do it.

(01:57:24):
No, pointless. You're at a crossroads here,
man. I love.
Rhythm. I love rhythm games.
He had a special place. Yeah.
You love. This game, listen, there's
nothing. Wrong with the games.
I'm not sure that they're entertaining.
They're hilarious. I think he's an OK mascot.
He he had to fight himself for that.
What himself He's. OK.
I'll put him in. OK, OK.

(01:57:45):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm a follow up on.
That I think I. Like his design, I.
Thought his Who the fuck? Whoa dude, I like his design.
He was like a turn. Little talk, little talk.
I think it's he's got a. Bear designed in Master Chief.
So it's like. Who am I talking?
You said he has a better. Design than Master Chief as a
mask guy, he's got more personality in that design than

(01:58:08):
chat's about to be on. Fire.
Oh my God, out of here. Chat's about to be on fire.
It's less generic. It's no his style.
I thought, you know and I. Thought he was yeah, the.
Face of rhythm games for a while.
I like. So I got yeah, he's OK.
He's he's, I give him. OK as.
Well, he was. OK, especially at the time.

(01:58:30):
So 1 pointless. And two, OK.
'S. Chuck, what you got bring us.
Back like I really wanted to puthim in the OK.
Category too. That's good, Turbo.
Said he has a better design thanMaster Chief.
I had a. Spite.
I want to put him in the fuckinggarbage.
That's. That's turbo steak.
That's turbo steak. But like I do.

(01:58:52):
Remember Parappa? I'm going to leave him at.
OK, Yeah. Turbo almost ruined a few
though. I'm going to.
Say I'm going. To put him on neglected.
Because we haven't had a freaking Parappa game or
anything in years, that's all. Yeah.
Neglected. OK, But he's going to go in, OK?

(01:59:15):
Yeah, he's going in, OK. All righty.
I respect him. Here we go, He was in.
Numb jam a Lammy. Also, was he?
Yes. And that had an arcade game,
Yeah. Cool only has 2.
When you look at that, yeah, yeah.
Man, there's a few more, so Chadagrees.
With me. Iconic.
Is. The highest tier.
I'm just. I'm just.

(01:59:36):
Happy that Steve is number one in garbage.
So I'm very. I hate Steve.
I can't stand that there's a mascot.
Terrible. All right, next. 1.
I got. Knights.
They viewed Knights into dreams in 19. 96.1.
Of Siga's most artistic and experimental mascots, known for
dreamlike gameplay and cult status among Saturn fans.

(01:59:56):
He has the ability of flight, aerial acrobatics, dreamlike
movement, and the mysterious andandrogynous presence.
Can't speak English today. I understand, I understand
completely. I can't speak English today.
Yeah. So it's.
Plural his name Knights. Knights.
So it's not knight. Don't call him knight no his.
Knights. That's funny, man.

(02:00:16):
It's a dream. Well, I never had a Saturn and.
I always like. This the the look of the
character of the of the game itself.
But as far as like a mascot, I don't know.
I'm going. To say he.
He's OK. I'm going to say he's OK.
I was one of those Saturn kids that loved this game.

(02:00:39):
I'm putting. On cool Knights design is very.
Cool. I like the concept.
Of how, you know, kids sleeping,having nightmares, and he comes
there and asks for the help to save his, you know, the
nightmare in town. Whatever's going on, sounds like
you're sleeping. It's like that.
That was one word. The nightmare in that was.
One word, whatever those. Name of the enemies or whatever

(02:00:59):
like. That, but I've got that boss.
Whatever, So do we. So it's so do we as a mascot.
He was the mascot of Saturn at the time.
This is the thing he I would sayhe would be a cool mascot.
He could have been, it could have been, I'm going to say
neglected. He, he never reached, he never

(02:01:20):
was given chance to reach full potential.
They put out Knights too on the Wii and it looked like a failed
Saturn game. It died with the Saturn.
It's like it's just I. I had high hopes for Knights
too. And it just.
Wasn't I had some ideas that it just it didn't look that great.
It didn't look that great and the new ideas wasn't all that I
missed. It wasn't better than the
original Knights. So it's like he wasn't in that

(02:01:41):
many games. He could have had potential.
I think neglected. I think neglected.
Listen, they had nights they hadnights.
Christmas they had. Nights too.
They had Nights remake or remaster, and they had Nights on
the phone. Really.
Yeah, they did. Oh my God, he was around.

(02:02:01):
But. Yes, he was.
Neglected because it was a mascot only for the 90s, pretty
much when Crash was mascotting. So we took him out.
We'd have to take Crash out. So this was Saturn's mascot, and
it was the ushering end of the 3D analog controls.
But yeah, I put a time. It's cool.

(02:02:22):
It's a cool design. Give it that.
Very unique, you know who it is.But neglect that.
I would put it in because they don't do nothing with it.
Yeah, true. He's supposed to be in.
Cool. He's supposed.
To be as as a. Character he's supposed to be in
the cool category cuz he was a cool mascot for the time.

(02:02:45):
Also in Sega racing, also racing, he was supposed to be
like. Sonic's number 2.
You know, like. The next, The next guy for Sega.
He's just a gesture, though. And he, I don't know, he's a
flying. Yeah, he's a flying.
Gesture, but for some reason. Like and bringing of the the,
the analog controls and how the game played, which is so fucking

(02:03:07):
awesome. And like, this is like a game
that I'm, this is not my type ofshit to play, but I enjoy this
thoroughly. I really enjoyed the fuck out of
this game, but he disappeared. He just disappeared.
There ain't nothing more to do. Yeah.
I don't think they have a clue of what to do with this
character. Is that called a dolphin right?
Now, yeah, for real. So I have no choice.
But to put him in neglected. Because he's just disappeared

(02:03:28):
ever since and I I, I always like Knights.
I like the concept but he just disappeared like it says.
Knights. Not even a six man on the team.
Damn they're. Still mad about the Halo?
They still mad about Halo? Knights is neglected.
They've been a six man on the team.
Wow. So move.
Knights to neglected. And the next one we got.

(02:03:50):
Marcus Phoenix, World of War 2. 1006.
He embodied gritty Xbox. Shooters.
Popular popularized cover based combat.
He's known for the chainsaw Lancer, the gravel voice and
brotherhood because it's a belt family.
Come on, come on, Vin Diesel is.Him, Marcus.
Phoenix. He's cool.

(02:04:11):
I love him as a character. He's a cool character.
I'm not going to say iconic, though, because yeah, yeah, I
can't. I can't.
I mean, I might. Take it fast.
I'm I'll put him in. Cool, Yeah.
Same, I want to put him in cool.I I want to put him in in iconic
but. He already.
Passed passed the torch to the younger generation in his own
series. Come on.
I got to I got to leave him in cool.

(02:04:32):
He didn't quite reach iconic status.
He yeah, he's in cool. He was on the cusp.
Yeah, for sure. I don't consider him a mascot.
Same. He's a cool as fuck.
Character. I think he's the shit.
I love Marcus Phoenix, but I don't see him as a mascot.
I think the Gears icon is more of a mascot.
Yeah, yeah, like I don't. Think of him.
He is the face of skull. He's the face of third person

(02:04:55):
shooters. Just how hot, master?
Chief is the face. Of first person.
See, all right, I'm a piggyback off of what Cafe Fox said.
Yeah, he's he's. Like a face more than Master
Chief. Master Chief is a glorified
trooper. Like a like a henchman that they
gave a name. Oh.

(02:05:17):
My. God A.
Glorified Hedge. For that they gave a name you.
Don't see Stormtroopers? Taking down a Death Star?
Shut up. yo-yo, stop kidding me.I'll took a fork.
And said y'all can play with a cafe fox.
He set it up. Man, I had to drop it down on
him. How dare you?

(02:05:40):
You know what I mean? Like So what do you say, Marcus?
Venus got a aura, man. He's got the swag.
He's a badass even when he's old.
Third person too, so you can see, you can see what he looks
like. You know?
Jake the dog has his voice. For real.
Jake, the dog from Adventure Time, has his voice.
Really. That's funny, I didn't.
Know. That we give him a cool.

(02:06:00):
We give him a cool. All right.
Goes. In the cool man because I.
Feel bad about putting him in OK.
Yeah. As a mascot and back of Luigi.
Oh man. Cooler than freaking Luigi.
Man, I. Think Luigi's more of a.
Mascot than than Marcus. Phoenix.
But Marcus Phoenix is a better character than Luigi.
He's cool. He's in the cool category, but

(02:06:22):
it's whatever. Cooler than he represents
everything. Now come on, not just Xbox.
Shut up. Oh damn.
That was. That was me.
Not just sex, that was. Me.
Wow. All right, next.
One we got that's. Saudi's new mascot, Chuck.
Are you done? Are you done?
Yes. Astrobot.

(02:06:43):
Debuted in Astros. Playroom in 20. 20 Showcase.
Of PlayStation hardware charm and he's a rising modern mascot.
He has a jetpack, spring jumps and dual sense features.
Oh yeah, yes, Astrobot. Style.
You go first, man. I need time to think about this
one Astrobot. I always thought Sony needed a

(02:07:06):
mascot and I think he is perfectfor Sony.
I think he's a very good mascot.Obviously he's going to have
more games in the future. Obviously he doesn't have the
popularity of other ones, other characters on the list.
I think he's an up and coming mascot.
I think OK would be too low. I think he's cool.

(02:07:27):
I think he's a cool mascot because he even though he's had
this like full one game, it's itwas a very great game like full
full game, not like that tutorial ish not yet yeah, we
don't count that, but but this was a great game.
We got game of the year. So I mean they're doing
something right and he's gonna Ican imagine the sequel to this

(02:07:49):
is gonna be awesome. So making me want to play now.
So I'm going to say he's cool. He's a good school mascot.
Sony needed it. Yes, Astrobot is the successful
version of SAC. Boy, that's why SAC boy is
pointless. Everything that they tried to do
with SAC Boy Astrobot. Does a million times.
Better, he's a much cooler character, way more personality,

(02:08:10):
way more colorful, just a betteroverall design and more you can
do with it. Plus like, there's just a
certain charisma about that thatdoesn't like SAC Boy did not
have. He is an up and coming mascot.
Can't put him in iconic. Just yet, give him like 10
years, he'll probably be there. But I would definitely give him

(02:08:32):
cool because that is like the perfect mascot for Sony.
So I put it in cool and they positioned him, they put him in
there especially. When like, I guess like what?
His stages are like different themes of past Sony games.
And there's a lot of Easter eggsin this game.
It's like Mario, basically. It's like it's Sony's answer to

(02:08:52):
Mario. Yeah, you could put him in any.
Anything that Sony's done? Yeah.
And he's the mascot of anything.Yeah.
It's. It's it doesn't.
He does his job as a mascot. Yeah.
Multiverse is game of the idea. That's two totally different
things. They're talking mascots here,
right? They're talking mascots here.
Multiverse has had no mascots. But yeah, I already took my

(02:09:14):
turn. Go ahead.
But yeah, I think he gets a cool.
He gets a cool. I like.
Astrobot's design, you know, it's a charming, charming
character. It's like when you look at the
character, he just, he exudes that mascot charisma and I think
he's on his way. But yeah, he's not legendary
iconic status yet, but he's got potential.
So cool. Yeah, definitely good.
I like how his like not to cut you off but like how his mask

(02:09:37):
has like expressions. And stuff like that, unlike
Master Chief, was very default. And then like a kind of like
can't see his face through the helmet, his face and you'll know
what he's thinking. You know.
First person, so you're like andwhen you these characters and
then you when you see his face. When you see his face like put
the mask. Back on in.

(02:09:58):
The show Chuck. Nobody cares about this game,
it's trash. Chuck has left the shit.
He's so. Bitty, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
I. Played.
I played. I played the Astro booth demo,
it is cool. Oh, you did?
Yeah, I did. It's cool.
It's cool. He's cool.
He's not iconic yet, but I, I. Have a feeling?

(02:10:20):
Within the next. 5 to 10 years. You will be I want to put him in
iconic so bad, but it's like he just.
Can't do it. He's too new.
He's too new and he ripped off every Mario game so it's like
you can't fuck. Wow, rattling the little.
Cages around. You're gonna hear a knock on the
door. Like you said that the.

(02:10:44):
Chat is for one. Oh, man.
All right. He's going in cool.
He's going in the cool. Man.
Not in front of Samus, yeah. Man, he's cool.
Insane. No, no, come on man, it's that
one game. Slow down.
Slow. Down what A1 game I had a Marcus
Phoenix? Yes, it's.

(02:11:05):
Fine, yeah, get the fuck out of here.
I had a Marcus. Phoenix, don't worry about.
It no. I had a.
Marcus Phoenix. Come on.
Don't worry about it. I had a Marcus.
Phoenix, come on, Put. Him behind Luigi, you know, I
would agree. Goes behind Luigi.
I'm fine with that garbage you. Want to put them in the trash,

(02:11:27):
not change. Going in the fucking Nathan.
Drake, Uncharted. Drake's Fortune 2. 1007 I'm so
fucking it's. Ruining friendships.
This. List is ruining friends.
PlayStation. 'S modern action adventure icon
redefined cinematic storytellingin.
Games and help solidify Naughty Dog's legacy.
He can't. He's an expert climber,

(02:11:48):
sharpshooter, witty. Banter, treasure hunter and a.
Charming yet reckless personality.
If this game was produced by a Naughty Dog, is it really first?
Duh. Yeah, Sony.
Alzani with Sony. OK, just checking.
Same with. Crash Bandicoot.
Just checking. That's one Microsoft is.
Not like that, right? You want.
You want this? One now.

(02:12:09):
Oh, you want me to go? You go.
Go ahead. I like Nathan.
Drake I love the games. I think the games are awesome.
People might not like my answer,but I think he's a really cool
character, but as a mascot, I don't think.

(02:12:34):
Mascot when I see. Nathan Drake.
So he's a. Very normal looking guy.
He's he's, he's Nick Lachey. From 98° so.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna give him OK?
I'm gonna give him OK as a mascot.
I'm talking about as a mascot. He's OK.
I'm. Not arguing games are
phenomenal. As far as a mascot?

(02:12:56):
I think he would need. Some more.
Like a more stylized look. He looks like a everyday joke.
Give him a helmet or something, right?
Give him a green helmet in the OH.
But he does look like, I mean, listen, he does look.
Like I mean Indiana. Jones had a whip and a hat.
Like, that's the iconic look formy idea.
Yeah, that's the iconic if you want to look like Nathan Drake.

(02:13:20):
You just come outside. Get dressed like and get a
holster. A gun holster.
Maybe that's that's what maybe. Anybody can dress like them,
Yeah, and get your hair. Highlighted like this douchebag,
right? Whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, what is that? What is the attack?

(02:13:40):
The attack. Like shots fired, man.
You know, shots fired. Yeah, that was I.
Felt some anger there, dude. Damn, I don't deserve that.
Yeah, I was. I forgot how fun these.
Games were man, I know Mr. 4/4 is great.
He's a great representation for Sony.
But does that feel bad putting him in OK, he's a member mascot.

(02:14:04):
I know has a mascot. He's a cool.
Character. Yeah, not the game.
Not mascot. I know, I know.
Like he's, you know, he's Sony, like his banter and.
Everything you know he represents Sony when you see
him. But if I saw a bunch of posters
with just. Nathan Drake on it.
It'll be ho hum, so I'd have to give him OK.

(02:14:25):
I want to give him cool. But I have to give him he's.
A cool character, yeah, but he'san OK mask mascot I'd have to
give. Him OK yeah I I'm like.
I'm like give. Chucks bottling up something for
you. Yeah, I gotta say yeah, he's
yeah, he's, I feel the same way.He's a cool.

(02:14:45):
Character, the games are great, especially for he's got charisma
yeah, when you see him, you knowSony, he was I also.
Like the way they did his character in.
PlayStation All Stars, I think he had a really good, really
great move set. Yeah.
But I guess we're going to have to go.
He he's as a mascot. He's kind of OK.
You know, yeah, it's like it's it's I, I feel OK.

(02:15:06):
He's not pointless, you know He's not trash.
He's definitely not neglected. Iconic though.
It's like for Sony's. Recognizable, but it's just.
Like, I don't know, it's he's like in between cool and OK,
yeah, he's kind of, if there wassomething in between cool.
And OK, he's kind of, he's the definition.
Of oh, he's a cool character, but as a mascot he's OK.
Yeah, that's. The definition of what he is.

(02:15:27):
Yep. All right.
Truck out of truck. How do you feel?
I haven't played any of the. Games you never played
Uncharted. No, he never played them.
Oh, we got to give them. Those fucking.
Those collections? No, I'm good.
Yeah, wow. This low budget.
Lara Croft, OH. Wow, I haven't played any of the

(02:15:49):
games. So the only.
Reference I have is the. Is the Uncharted movie.
Oh man, and you know that was trash and that's how you
started. That's.
How you? Start your fucking man.
I started by watching the movie The Worst Thing Ever.
That's the worst. Thing putting Nathan Drake in
straight garbage now I'm kidding.
Oh wow. These games do look really

(02:16:10):
entertaining and they do look like they would really be a good
time. But at like they said, as far as
a mascot goes, he's quite. He's generic.
I feel like I've gone to school with him for real.
I feel like I've played basketball against them.
I think I've seen him in a club.Like, I probably danced with his
girlfriend. I I thought you're gonna sell

(02:16:31):
your dance. So you're saying, OK, I'm gonna
leave. I'm gonna leave him in.
OK. Yeah.
The only thing that differentiates him?
From any other. Character or whatever is.
His witty banter that's like hisjoking around and stuff like
that. And his holster.
But yeah, the only thing that you the whole yeah.
Yeah, like he doesn't have glasses.
He doesn't have the hat right weapon.

(02:16:52):
You see the holster? You automatically like, all
right, And then you hear him like a joke and you're like, all
right. If you saw a statue like a, like
a, what is it like the the fun pop Funko?
Pop Yeah. You wouldn't know it was him,
right? Yeah, you could.
You could if you don't. Put that name on there, yeah.
You won't know who it. Is it's like Indiana Jones is a
is a mascot for the win. Yeah, that's a mascot, yeah.

(02:17:12):
But yeah, Nathan Drake is more. Yeah, he's OK.
Yeah. Like I look like a science
teacher. He's Chris Pratt.
Jurassic. Yeah.
No, it's the same. Actually, he should.
Yeah. Chris Brad.
Jurassic Rock's. The same Why didn't they
freaking? Cast them.
It's a so that's Mario though, so you should go on.
Iconic. Oh my.
God, that's why didn't they? Why didn't they cast them?
That was probably the worst. Casting ever forever.

(02:17:35):
Jesus. OK, it is.
It's going to OK, it's. Almost looking dead.
Even look at that and don't forget to move Astrobot behind
Luigi. Nope.
Word fine. It's fine right there.
Damn no yo the. Bias is real.
We'll. Fix it.
We'll fix it later. We'll fix it later.
We got, we got 3. More we got, we think I'm gonna
forget. We got 3.
More. We got chalk.
I'm with you on this. How much we got?
Three more y'all. David, I'll put them on them.

(02:17:56):
Here we go. Alex Kidd debuted an.
Advocate in miracle world. In 1980. 6 Sega's original
mascot before Sonic, known for his unique gameplay style and
role in defining early Sega consoles, he has rock paper
scissors, boss battles, punch based combat, big ears and a
plucky adventure spirit. I love the art on that right

(02:18:17):
there Yeah, the art is done very, very well.
If only that's. What?
Well, that's that's I mean the remake, but there's a there's a
reason why it. Was there's a reason why I.
Picked this one because the. Original art was Oh no.
Original art, you can't show theoriginal art.
It was so bad. I was like, I can't do it
justice man. Thank God they remade.
It and like. That's what he looks like,
because holy shit, he looks fucking terrible.

(02:18:38):
Yeah, they fixed it up on this one, man.
They fixed it. But the original one, I'm like,
oh, this is Sega's mascot after the original OPA OPA.
Mass produce, says Alex. Tit is better than Sonic.
Wow. Autism.
He was supposed to. That's trolling.
Alex Kitt was supposed to be better than he was.
He's supposed to be a Mario equivalent.

(02:18:59):
To me, I can only just say. He's neglected.
He's. Very neglected because he's
supposed to be Goku. He's in the I.
Always liked Alex. Kitty and didn't have the
greatest games. However the miracle world was
awesome. The fact they redid that was
pretty fucking dope that they haven't forgot about him which
is great. Now can you get him in a new

(02:19:20):
game? He still looks goofy sometimes
though. In the All Stars Racing, he's a
goofy. Looking he's a goofy looking,
he's not a like, you know, he's a big ass year.
Look at this big ass redesign. The redesign was cool though.
Yeah, they did a good job with that.
I would say I'm gonna. Say neglected.
He's a neglected, neglected guy.Yeah, I love AL's kid, but those
other games, yeah, they're. Vicious.
I love. I love AL's kid in Miracle
World. Those other games are back, but

(02:19:43):
as a mascot, he was a cool mascot for Sega.
Art on. That's awesome.
Yeah. In the early Mario days, he was
a cool. Like Stan, man, look at that.
They did a great job actually. But he's also a monkey.
He's Goku. Yeah, yes, the.
Tail, right? The monkey kid.
That's super. Saiyan. 4A monkey kid.
That's a legit thing though. They wanted him.
To be Goku, but they couldn't get the license.

(02:20:04):
That's. Really.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's why he always look like amonkey.
That's dragon power. Right that damn.
And especially in a new. Redesign but.
I would have to give them neglected.
Because he has been neglected. Easily.
Easily. I can't see this going any other
category. That's freaking Genesis game I.
Hate it. Yeah, You know, it's like.

(02:20:24):
I like his new design. They may.
I like the way they, you know, they did him justice.
He looks awesome. He was holding it down for Sega.
He was before Sonic. He was holding it down as the
mascot bomb. His games were very hit and
miss, though. He hasn't really established a
legacy of quality when it comes to his games.
He's got a good design now. I like the, the resurgence, you

(02:20:48):
know, I guess it was popularity a little bit.
I don't think he's neglected because I think, yes, I, you
could say he's neglected. I don't think he's neglected
because I think he reached his potential.
I just don't think that there's,I think he, I don't think that
there's anything you don't think, you don't think they
could do any type of game with this guy.
They can't do a 3-DA. 3D I'm notsaying it's impossible, I just
don't have high I. Don't I think we've seen the

(02:21:09):
best of him? Do they made a bummer that's the
won't ever his first game? Is his best game though it's.
Like you think. We've seen the best, I think.
The best no the second master system is.
The best that you can get from Alex Kidd.
Can't get any better than that. Enchant the Castle I and I like.
I like enchant the castle for Johnsons.
It just was. Not it was not bad in the
miracle. Why do you like that game?

(02:21:29):
It wasn't at the time it wasn't that bad, but I think, I think
that's. The craziest take?
I've I don't think I don't it's that his potential was.
Stopped at second master I. Don't have high hopes?
For him to come out with a great.
Game a great 3D game in the future so I could be proven
wrong, you know? I'll play it if someone has
brave enough to make it. No, he's not neglected.
Then what is he Kev? Pointless.
He's OK. He's OK.

(02:21:50):
Moving on, Chuck. I didn't play.
Any Alex Kidd games? So.
But that looks so nice I. Like, I love the way that looks.
I mean I. Know the the.
Watching this footage is kind ofswaying me to.
Well, you got to watch this, though.
That was the original. That's the.

(02:22:11):
I mean, that's the. Original, that's where.
He started and that's. Yeah.
Yeah, put him in neglected, dude.
Put him in neglected. Well, he can't go past Yeah.
No, I said. I just don't.
Have high hopes. Neglected, neglected, neglected.
It makes sense. Turbo was about to.
We've seen the best from him. Damn.
That's. Pretty.
That's pretty fucked up. That's pretty fucked.

(02:22:33):
Up next, two more. Yeah, Yeah, two more.
Two more. Here we go, we have Pitt from
Kid Icarus. From 1980. 6.
He's a cult classic Nintendo hero who made a major comeback
in Super Smash Brothers and Kid Icarus Uprising after decades of
dormancy. He can fly with the wings of
Icarus, bow based combat, loyalty to Palatena, and a

(02:22:53):
noble, optimistic personality. The definition of neglected
yeah, has just. Entered the podcast.
Yeah, I'll give you that. The definition.
This game is so dope. I.
Never got. I never got.
A chance. Awesome.
I never got a chance to play this game because it's on the
fucking small ass screen this game is and they never fucking

(02:23:14):
brought this out. So fucking awesome dude.
You would. This is right up your alley too.
You would love this game. His new design was so dope.
All they had to do is freaking remaster it.
He has more. Bring it on fucking switch.
It's more appearances than SmashBrothers and he's awesome at
Smash Brothers. Yeah, Yep.
And I know I. Have a feeling they're gonna?
Do something with him for a. Switch to.
Nothing. Nothing confirmed, obviously

(02:23:35):
nothing announced, but I have a feeling they're gonna do
something. But this is the definition of
neglected and I. And he's such an awesome
character too. But yeah, neglected next
neglected I. Said yeah, I.
Love his characterization in. Uprising for the 3DS, his
script, the personality, the waythey break the 4th wall and they

(02:23:58):
don't take themselves too seriously.
But then they have some serious themes that through it's it's
like it's a great mismatch on what they were doing with that.
And yeah, he's he's very cult classic right now.
He's got potential. You know, Pitt has potential.
I thought you said he's very Coke classic.
Coke Classic. He's like a very.

(02:24:19):
Pepsi, Coke, Classic. No, man, I I I like the way they
brought him out of obscurity. After and his design used to
suck before Uprising, so you know.
Well actually they didn't bring out that that 3DS one they
didn't released that is. That's neglect.
That is, that is. Yeah, he can't.
He would be cool if it wasn't for.

(02:24:39):
His neglect. Him and Star Fox are just
sitting there. Yeah, on the bench.
Great characters also fly. Together.
Yeah, yo, why the fuck not? There's something with flight.
Low class this. Shit is crazy.
That's funny. But it's it's.
This game is awesome. Uprising, I encourage that if if
you haven't played that it is a great game.
Great. I'm kid.
I'm still like dumbfounded how they have not touched this game

(02:25:02):
at. All dude this was played by
Sakurai too. Man this guy is a genius.
It's suck. It's stuck.
On the freaking 3DS, man. Yes, yeah, we're getting.
Kirby there, right? Yeah, man.
All right, let's see. It's great game.
Oh shit. Damn it, how you getting on
camera? I didn't get out of camera.

(02:25:23):
Y'all 6 busted his. Ass right now.
Damn it man, I should have switched the camera right when I
damn. It.
Man I missed. Opportunity.
Man that was wild missed. Opportunity.
Anyway, I'll wait for the last one.
Then. I would.
Love so Pitts going into neglected, neglected.
Sadly. Sadly neglected as a mascot.

(02:25:46):
He could do it though. He could be a.
Mascot. You know what's crazy?
All the Bastro were behind Luigi.
And at the end, later, later right, we got.
One more we got. One more we got, one more I.
Know he's not going to do it either.
He is not going to do it. Yeah, no.
I'm going to do it. I got you.
Man, I got you. No.
But of the list of. Neglected SO.
Far. What do we got 1234?
We got 66 mascots. I think they're all

(02:26:09):
appropriately there. Yeah.
Yeah, for sure. Be be honest.
Yeah, man, pointless. I like that.
Too. Yeah, garbage.
Yep, that works. Except for sack boy.
He needs to go with Yeah, he doesn't like Sack Boy.
Sack. Boy, if anything should be
neglected because. Astro.
Bot replaced sack boy. Almost busted his ass into.

(02:26:30):
The Wall. Guy that would have been didn't
get it on camera. Man.
Son of a bitch. Actually, we did.
We did have a bat. Oh, that's right.
Oh, you got a? Yes, we do.
Please make that. That's right.
I have a separate. I have a.
Separate recording track, yes. Let's go.
We'll see a short and it'll it'll Please do.

(02:26:50):
I'm making it short with that. That's amazing.
Nothing happening. That's amazing.
Yeah. The.
Sound effects and everything. No one.
Saw anything? Damn it.
So his legs flying, Who's the last guy on the list?
We got one more y'all. I can't believe this is the last

(02:27:13):
one. Vector man back.
In he debuted. Back then.
Vector man. Of 1995, a late Gen.
Sega Genesis stand out. Known for its fluid animation
and environmental themes, VectorMan was briefly considered as
Sega's next mascot after Sonic. He has a morphing body made of
orbs, energy based attacks, gritty post apocalyptic setting,

(02:27:36):
and high tech agility. Yeah man.
All right, he was supposed to take the.
Reins after Sonic. Get this.
Thing. Off Get out of here.
Knights would have been the. Is a is.
A way better. Take the Mantle and then Vector
Man for Genesis. The crazy thing is I was I was a

(02:27:56):
Genesis maniac and I never got to mess with the Vector Man
games. I don't see, I hear mixed.
Things about these games, but the.
Cameras, games games games aside, I'm going to say I think
he's a pointless mascot. I think he's pointless.
Nope. It's just I just see him as a
character in a game, as a mascot.

(02:28:18):
I do not get any mascot vibes from Vector Man whatsoever.
Look at them. Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of
like a like a like an enemy thatyou kill in the game, right.
I don't really. Yeah.
Echo's more more known than Vector Man.
Get this, get this robot off thescreen.
So yeah, I would say. Pointless. 1st.

(02:28:38):
Party, but yeah, if if star if. Starry or whatever's not on
here, then get him all He's Rye Star.
Rye Star. Yes, get him.
Get this. Guy out of here.
Yeah, there's only Star isn't first party though that was I
looked that up, Earthworm. Jim's not, but it wasn't first
party, no. Yeah, it's third.
Yeah, it's not the first. Party we'll have it for some

(02:28:59):
reason I was like wait Vector man's first party really We'll
we'll have a we're gonna do a third party mascot list yeah no,
we definitely are but yeah thoseare third third party ones too
many too many Mega man's third party yeah cuz we were split
that up what? Shocked me.
I thought Mega Man was like. First, Oh my God, right shit.
I can't call me. 1st but yeah, he's he's pointless, yeah.
Pointless. Get him out of.

(02:29:21):
Here, Kev. Let's see Vector man.
Yeah, yeah, he's. Not a mascot.
Just not a mascot and even if hewas I would say trash.
Mascot, I thought. I thought you were gonna say
iconic at first. He's a mascot.
He's just like he's a. Very generic design as well,
like. The games aren't bad.
I played. I played the first Vector Man.
It's not big. It came out pretty late into the

(02:29:41):
Genesis life. What was it?
Lifestyle. Lifespan.
Lifespan. Lifespan.
Lifestyle, lifestyle. Sorry.
It's. Good.
But yeah, it's time for. Bed for Turbo, it's time for.
Bed so you know we get to that point we get to that point but.
But no, I think he's a. Bad mascot.
He shouldn't be representing thecompany, you know, any company,

(02:30:03):
you know he's the game. Wasn't bad, but I don't see
mascot potential there at all inany sense of design or charisma.
Nothing pointless, all right? No kef, said.
Guard. What's that?
Trash, you said. OK, Well, pointless.
Who said pointless, I thought. I heard pointless.
All right, I played the game. It was fun, I liked it, but I
didn't see him. As a Genesis mascot, you know

(02:30:26):
what I'm saying? Yeah.
I'm gonna put him in. Pointless.
Same. Pointless.
You guys don't. Pointless.
No, I can't. Say he's trash.
Look at look at the design. All right, he's not garbage
design. Wise, I can't give him all of
our status. I can't give him Steve status
that too that too. Vector Man looks default and I
like all of ours Trash. Steve is trash, but I did it

(02:30:49):
just looks plain. I did enjoy the game, but that's
why I can't. That's why I can't put it in
garbage. But Vector Man looks like a
character from the game Balls. That's what they were.
Made out of this? Yeah, he doesn't.
No, he's just a plain. Yeah, but he like garbage.
Is Steve, that's the definition of garbage.
And so is Olomar. He's more pointless than he is

(02:31:11):
garbage. He's very.
He's the definition of pointless.
Yeah. The tail list can only have a
certain amount of like, characters on there.
Yeah. Aqua we can go for ages, so
those characters are the first party.
Middle. Yeah, medieval.
Medieval was there's some characters.
Who will be forgotten? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Off this list we don't have. All of them forever, yeah.
But yeah, medieval. Would have probably been in.

(02:31:31):
Like what? Pointless.
Not pointless. The other neglected.
Neglected. Yeah, yeah, he'll be in.
Yeah, definitely neglected. Do you have some prison?
Yeah, like. King Arthur from what you go.
They they just failed that point, Yeah.
Point Somebody's never played. It yet not only.
The play. Just look.
At him pointless. All right, so we're.

(02:31:52):
Moving characters, but there's alot of.
Characters there, that was almost even.
Vector man is. Partners.
Look at that. I think that came out and
they'll be moved after. About you motherfucker.
Yeah, he's. Gotta go.
Behind Luigi, He's not there yet.
He's not there yet. Damn it, he could.
He's cool, though. Next year he can.
Yeah, but he's not there. Yet I mean.
That's he is cool though. He's decent.
I mean, listen, if you really want to Don con.

(02:32:14):
Cool, it's fine, but. Yeah, he.
Is where he is iconic is actually proper that that's a
proper Chuck read out the. The whole entire list, if you
will. We're going to start with the
garbage. I like how he said that.
We start with the garbage we got.
Steve Olomar and blinks. And the garbage.

(02:32:34):
Sounds right in pointless. We got Captain Falcon, we got.
Ness. We got.
Isabel, we got Sack Boy. We got Ratchet.
Wait, wait, wait, wait. You say Star Fox?
No, I heard Star Fox. No, I said sack boy.
No first. The first, I said.
Ratchet. I thought you said Star Fox.
That's. The first No, I said Captain
Falcon. OK, my bet.
My bet. My bet.
Actually missing Jack and Daxa too, but they.

(02:32:56):
Would still be in the same thingas Ratchet.
Basically. All right, let me start over the
pointless Captain Falcon. Ness, Isabel.
Sack Boy, Ratchet, Sly Cooper, and Vectorman in Pointless and
in Neglected. We have Fox.
Spyro Parapa, the rapper, Knights.

(02:33:17):
Alex Kidd and Pitt. They're neglected, man.
And in the OK tier, we have Donkey Kong.
Crash Bandicoot, Yoshi Kirby andNathan Drake don't mess with me
in cool. We'd also have last.
Of us, Ellie and. And Joel?

(02:33:40):
Probably also just because they're normal people, so
probably with. Nathan Drake in.
Cool. We've got Samus, Aran, Marcus
Phoenix. Luigi and Astrobot, sensational
and an iconic we have master. Chief Kratos.
Pikachu, Link, Sonic the Hedgehog, and Mario and Wario.

(02:34:03):
There it is, Wario and Wario. Wow.
Wow. Is our first.
Party. Mascots.
Your list I mean to be. Honest.
If you wanted like the real listis like 100. 100 and something
mascots. So yeah, there's no way we could
do that. Cash will be like 10 hours long,
not in one pocket. Yeah.
You can't, you can't do it. So if I'm missing anybody, if

(02:34:23):
you really. Want to see it?
Again, yes. No, Yeah, they.
Wanted us to put the list in thediscord.
Yeah, yeah, all. Right, you know what I'll take?
Let me take a screenshot of the of.
The list and. We'll make a post.
Not all right, all right, all right all.
Right. All right, all right, all right.

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sometimes I get beat up. This Friday I might be playing

(02:35:25):
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