The Gaming Industry’s Worst Moves!

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85. 7. Video game.
Podcast, whether it's a beer, Rashad, or even a glass of wine.
Oh man, the camera switch doesn't work.
All right, grab your favorite beverage and listen to my voice
because you're in the level 857 video game podcast having all

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kinds of crazy technical difficulties today.
I don't know what's going on, but hey, let's see if this
works. Hey, there it is.
It's me, Algae 857. You hear my voice, you can't see
me. And we also got the 23rd stop.

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I was waiting for you. That air is awful sticks.
Turn away 5 seconds. And your boy Big chop?
What up? Oh.
All right, so sound effects are working.
Sound effects work. Hold on.
One second. Camera does.
Yours does not. I can't switch cameras.
Oh, wait. We saw you.
Wait. We just saw you.

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Yes, we. Can.
It's working, but it's slow as hell.
It's something. It's it's better than nothing,
hey. Listen, hey, what's up everyone?
We got some people and check whowe got y'all.
Damn, we got fast produce. We got Cafe Fox.
We got no. No, no, it's the.

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What else we got? Wow, that's all I said.
There's 10 people in the chat but nobody else is talking.
Well, you don't get a douche douche if you don't seduce
yourself. Oh damn.
We'll, we'll go ahead and douchedouche you as soon as it.
Starts. We'll douche douche you.
Yeah, Dee Dee, Dee Dee. We handed out douches today.
Sounds really sucks, really sucks.

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I don't know if anyone wants. That yeah, this is so wild.
We started like 1/2 an hour late, no 45 minutes, but it's
OK. But it wasn't our fault though.
Exactly not our fault. It was Obs.
It was Obs. OBS has it out for us.
Yeah, yeah. Trying trying to ruin our night.
New update and as a matter of fact y'all should report OBS
because they tried to ruin your night.

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You know what? I'm saying words.
Because without them then we can't even do the show.
So stop, don't, don't. Do it.
Don't do it. Don't, don't, don't do.
It not talk. To me, you can't do the show.
Tell me to get this stuff, man. Slow, man.
It's all right. Tell me to get this stuff
together. It's a 5 second delay when I hit
the button. I'm sorry, baby.
Check it out already. I'm gonna hit it now.
Already 123123. Hey, there you go.
Hey, don't worry. It's not 5 seconds. 3 seconds.

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So yeah, thank you guys for yourpatience.
We appreciate you. Thank all, all of you in the
chat right now. Appreciate y'all.
If the show abruptly stops, you'll know why, yeah?
Oh yeah, technical difficult. Actually, we should get to what
we got to do so. Yeah, ticking time bomb.
All right, let's see if this works.
So let's go. Well, wait.
Oh, yeah, we should do these shots.
We're going to get our shots done.

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That's. That's the we need the shots.
We can't complete the podcast without it.
This will be the whole podcast. So it seems like all the scenes
are delayed when I hit the button.
Cheers. This is a delayed shot.
We need this, we need this really bad.
What goes on in the chat? Paul C in the chat.
I even got a beer. Guys, look at this.
Al has a. Beer Presidente.

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Presidente. That's what I'm talking about,
yeah. Cheers y'all.
Not too much got them drink responsibly.
Not sponsored. Gosh.
Oh yeah, baby. Oh yeah.
Oh yeah. What in the hell?

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Is going on man. That was great man, dude.
That's what happens with hot tubs too.
Just can't breathe. That's awesome.
If I was on Hot Ones I'd just beHiccup and do the whole thing.
Oh man, like I like to answer good question I think.
That's even better. Some of those sauces.
Oh damn, really? 22 hours updating and then
reconfiguring just to play a game?
Oh yeah, it happens man. Yeah, it happens to the best of

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us games we've been playing. Yeah, games we've.
Been playing. Yeah, let's do it.
Yeah, let's go guys. Let's just freaking even works.
Let's see if this even works guys.
Probably probably stop the podcast, OK.
Oh, it does work. It's a little choppy, but that's
OK Yeah, Styx and I played splitfiction and completed the game.

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Our full playthrough will be uploaded on the channel pretty
soon. But what an incredible,
incredible game. This is an experience, AAA Co-op
experience. Wow.
And so let me let me switch off because I don't want to show you
guys too much. The game is so good it's like

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hard to even like describe wow because we don't want to ruin
anything. Yes, it's something that
everyone should experience. Yes if you have a friend like
Co-op, online, at home, couch, Co-op anything get it done.
It's a game that deserves to be played and highest, highest
recommendation I can go. Wow, yes.
Yes, it is currently my game of the year.

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Is it life changing as a gamer? Yes.
I mean, it hasn't been done. It's done so much, so many
things has never been done before in games, and it just
kept surprising. It surprises you and then you're
like, wow, that was incredible. And then just when you think
like they've done it all, they throw you with another surprise.
Respect. And we played a couple of games,

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yeah, in our life. The side missions in there and
like the side things that they threw in there were like they
could be an entire game on its own.
If it was like an indie game, itwould be like the best indie
game of the year. There's so many different
mechanics in there. They could have made, yes,
countless games, yeah, with thatengine.
I don't understand how they did.Yeah, wow.
And the story is great. The story is really innovative.

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It's different. And yeah, this is.
Can't recommend it enough, man. It's a.
Brilliant creation. It's a must play.
It's a must play if you like video games.
Developed by who? Again?
Who made this somebody? Haze, haze.
Light. I think Haze Light Studios.
Haze Light Studios, Yeah, they did it.
Takes 2. It takes. 2 takes 2A way out and
brothers. Damn, so I already know it's

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going to be crazy. I already know that's insane.
Yeah, when I saw the the trailerand I was like, what?
This is their next project? I was like, Yep, I'm, I'm
getting it first. I'm getting it.
You could always tell the game what the game's the, the type of
game you're going to be playing based off of Yosef's excitement
when he talks about it. Because when you create
something and you're excited to show everybody, you know, he

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reached a point where it's like,I'm releasing a masterpiece to
the world and to this. I can't wait for everyone to to
play this. That's that's the kind of vibe
he gives off. Every time he was like talking
shit like at the at the game he.Talks shit all the time, he
said. Fuck yeah.
He was. He said that he.
Was his own height man, like he was.
He was with it and I guess you guys know exactly why.

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That that is my he moved up to my #1 dream guest.
Yeah podcast. Yeah I need to talk to him for
so many reasons. Well, after playing, I'm like,
yeah, I definitely want to have him on the podcast.
I want to talk to this guy because the the love and and
care that was put into the game,He he needs to be protected by
at all costs. He's he's necessary for gaming.

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He can make level 85 section. A5.
Section A5. Level 857 fiction.
I can't speak. That's a new segment A5.
Level 8 Five Section 8. Wow, I like that.
Section 8. Five. 7.
Section 857. The amount of people on the
credits is ridiculous. Oh yeah, the credits are rolling
for like 30 minutes. Like Assassin's Creed shit right

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there. So it's like, Jesus, that's a
game in itself. Yeah, I like that though.
Section 857. They're gonna cover all your
rent. The whole thing.
Wow. But the game is it's, it's a
everybody needs to play the game.
And this, this is the footage. I, I it's not doing it justice.
I can't show it because it's choppy and some reason it's like
2 frames a second. And actually it'll make it look

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terrible. The computer's, the computer's
chugging along right now. So y'all could, y'all could just
look it up. Yeah.
Just look it up, guys. We don't need the podcast
freezing. Yeah.
Just our camera's a little choppy too.
Yeah. Is it?
Yeah, it's a little bit. Yeah, I'm looking at it.
I'm looking at the live stream right now because I can still do
my dance. Oh.
Man, listen, they can hear us. They can hear us.
We get. Yeah, as long as you guys can
hear us, we'll be all right. Paul said level A5 section.

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You know AO rated games don't sell it's.
Not how you spell section. We'll hold it.
We'll hold it for the only fans.Wow.
And then after that I played some Cyber Shadow, went back to
it. The level of frustration that I

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had. You're struggling so much this
game, dude. No, it it brings me back because
I never beat Ninja Gaiden for the NES and it's always
frustrated me that I, you know, I just never had the patience
for so this type of game got your number.
Pretty much. It's like you're it did.
But I love the game. It's it the music gets you
hyped, the obstacles and everything.

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But I know myself. So I get the I'm the type of
gamer that gets very impatient when I play, and then I get when
I get mad, I start making irrational, stupid mistakes over
and over and over and over again.
And it's because I'm mad. So I have to put the game down,
take a break. And yeah, the last time I
played, I think it was a Chapter9, and then I finished Chapter 9

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and I just made it to chapter 10and stopped.
I'm going to wait for a few daysand then go back to it.
Wait for a few days. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like I'm so mad. I can't go back a couple days.
I have to. I have to I.
Got some cool down time. Yeah, man, no, my thumbs are
hurting. Were hurting.
And then we went to Split Fiction right after and I was
like, Oh my God, you should stream it so we could all see
your pain. I don't know about that.

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I don't know about that. I don't know about that.
That's what people want to see, man.
They want. To see you in pain, That's the
person, I don't know, Freaking outbreaks of controller
midstream. Yeah, well, the stream's over
because I broke my fucking controller.
I'll make a doctor's appointment.
The doctor be like, yeah, what'sup with your hands doing an
X-ray? He's going to be like, well,
just stop playing the game. I'll show him the game.

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I'll have him play a stage and he'll be like, all right.
I get it. I get it.
Yeah. Yeah.
Stop playing the game. That's what it'll tell me.
That's your prescription. Pick boxes.
Stop playing some marble wobbles.
Mobble wobbles, mobble wobbles, mobble wobbles, marble wobbles.
I haven't played that. Game in wobbles.
This is running mad choppy. All right.
You know what? That can't even show the

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footage. Don't worry.
Can't show the footage? Don't.
Worry. Can't show it.
Don't worry. No, I'm just saying since I
can't show it, I'll just chalk. How was Fighter Fridays, man?
Oh, I got my ass whooped. It was crazy.
Yeah, we don't. That's all we need to say about
that anyways. What'd you play, man?
What'd you play? He said.
So we got to say wow. No, we played Super Smash
Brothers Ultimate because it wasthe first Friday of the month
and I got stomped out. It was our buddy Slamble came

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through. Slamble.
He's a vicious player. Hyper slap came through.
Hyper Slap. Came through just vicious, just
savage players man like a. Rough time.
No, it, it was, it was I was watching because that's what
they were playing, split fiction, and I couldn't hop on.
Les, thank you so much bro. He's keeping yo listen.

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Keeping. The lights on dude.
Yo, he's saying you keep, you'rekeeping the podcast going.
Leslie, you keeping the podcast going?
Thank you so much for that. What up?
Oh, Slamble's in the chat. Oh.
Slamble what up slam? So as I was watching right, I
was watching the beginning rightof of the the the smash
ultimate. I, I saw a slamble picked King

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DDD, he was playing very well with him, but he didn't get the
WS. And I was like, I'm just waiting
for this guy to pick Simon causethe Simon is, is something to
behold. It's a, it's a problem.
His Simon's a problem. And then I slowly started
watching him just pick away at everyone and I'm like, he won
again, He won again. And I'm like, why isn't no one

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focusing on him? I'm like, nobody is focusing on
him. And then you had other people
who would come in like this one Bowser, who's playing like a
Dick head. His name is Void.
He was playing like a complete Dick head.
And he would just stand at the end of the stage and just wait
and let the other two people fight.
I'm like, I'm like this is this is a pussy tactic, 'cause he was
losing and. For the record, I went after

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Slimble, it's just that he discarded me so.
Oh yeah, no, he's he's a very seasoned.
He's a vet, he's a vet Smash player and a expert Simon
player. So yeah, it was, it was I was
watching. I was like, oh.
Ooh. Yeah, this is this guys a
problem. He's definitely a problem.
I want to play. I want to play very bad.

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I want to test my, my shit against him, but next time, next
time I'll I'll pop in there. But yeah, I was definitely.
I get frustrated when I'm watching and I see stuff like
that. But I, I, I looked at the stream
and I looked at Chalk's face. Yeah, Chalk's face.
There was no joy. There was no smiling.
There was no smiling. That's why you want to talk
about. It there, there was no, there

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was usually chalk would be like,you know, let me sneak out a
win. No, the chalk wasn't anywhere
near the end of these battles like these.
There was no there was some trouble because you had Hyper
Slap because Slam Slamble and and Hyper Slap were having wars
and Turbo was in there fighting both of them.
So Chalk was just on the outsideand then you had other people

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who were pretty good too. There was a hero that popped in
there and then there was that guy Void that popped in there.
Chalk just like turned the shit off.
Yeah. Cuz cuz, cuz, no cuz the room
was full so you gotta wait a full two games yeah to get in
after that, you know what I mean?
So it's like. It's like, wait, I'm hosting
this shit and I'm waiting two games for these.
Fuck this. Shit, it's like I'm washed.
It's like smash, just cancel. No, I mean, I do it.

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I do it for the people. The people enjoy it so.
But the good thing, the positivething it did, I'm I'm going to
be playing a lot of Smash Brothers right now.
I gotta, I gotta, I want to get back into it, OK?
I gotta get back into it. So that's that's the good thing
about this. Stallion and Slamble are on a
collision course. Yeah, I would like to play
against them. He's he's very, very good.
And when you play against players like that only makes you
better. Yep.

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You also played Mecca Break the the demo.
The Mecca Break Demo Mecca breakthe gameplay is.
How many people online right nowfor the demo I.
Don't know how many people are online but.
It's just its own set thing now.Yeah, it's its own thing.
I think you have. I think you could play 6V6.
I think it's 6V6 or 5V5. Is that not the game that they

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said had a hundred players online when they first did the
trailer? I thought they did.
This trailer was like, remember,we watched the The Game Awards,
we saw the trailer and we were like, yo chalk, this is all
wait, it's that game. Yeah, it's that's.
All is that good? Is it dope?
It's it's dope the way you can customize your mobile suit it.
Dude, this Gundam is just not. Called Is there any Co-op
elements in there or? It it the Co-op elements play

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like like Marvel Rivals or six watch teams.
Teams. Yeah, but it's it's different in
that you can customize your, youcan customize your mobile suit
with different weapon loadouts. So you're not, you're not like
pigeonholed into one type of weapon.
Like you can play as a Hawkeye, but you don't have to, you know

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what I mean? OK.
So. And they got hand to hand, too.
Yeah, they have hand to hand weapons they have like beam
sabers, axis. Yeah, this is the demo.
The only thing about the demo, and please keep in mind it's a
demo. The voice acting wasn't great,
but they they make sure that they said this is not the
finished product. When they, when, when during the

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during the voice over parts. You know what I mean?
But this is a developer, not a, not a voice that.
They're like, we don't want y'all coming after us.
Exactly exactly. So just.
Keep that in mind, but the the gameplay fire fire.
That see that? No, that's just that in that in
general looks pretty crazy that that giant ass robot.
Is Gundam. Wait, if they come out with like

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a APVE, you know, you take a team of 6 and you taking out big
ass fucking robots? I'm down with that.
That shit's fucking fire. Dude, it's it's dope, it's fire.
That's dope. It's so cool.
I can't I cannot wait to play more of that game and it looks I
didn't even get the chance to fully like you can fully
customize your pilot. You can customize your your

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mobile suit with different weapons different different
defensive tactics too it. Looks so solid.
It looks really solid. So like when you build a team
you can have like 2 defensive bots, 2 offensive, 2 snipers,
you know what I mean? It's it dude.
It's. Can you save any of this to your
regular game when they get it? I have no idea.
What's their virtual on vibes? Better than virtual?
On no, I mean like, was there like a like a feel of it, like

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remember. I know this, this, this played
this played. The controls were tighter for
this than virtual. It better be.
Yeah, the controls. But I know they had some sort of
melee from restaurant. Yeah, yeah, because I'm looking.
I'm with the. Dude has a beam Saber and I
think this part you steal that dudes axe after you beat him and

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then. So it's like Mega Man now, So
you. Can so you can't no, but if you
do have empty slots on your on your mobile so you can pick up
enemy weapons that's fire thoughwhich is cool and then and then
the weapons have like a cool down period so.
Yeah, see the So you, you getting this?
It's a. Yeah.
It looks. Good.
You going? You going to cheat on Marvel

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Rivals? Yeah, this is the only game.
Honestly this is the only game that made me stop playing Marvel
Rivals for like 2 hours. That's how you know what's good,
because Chuck is not going to stop playing all Rob.
I don't know. Not at all.
You know when it's coming out? Nope.
He's like put that demo though. That demo live demo though.
Coming soon. Coming soon.

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Yeah, dude, no, it is fire. It's really fire.
That demo's been pretty crazy lately.
Yeah, and of course I've been playing Marvel Rivals.
I just made Lord with Hawkeye. Lord.
Lord Clint Barton. So yeah, I love that game, dude.
Love it. It's mad fun.

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You made Lord what you competitively.
The rank up. Yeah, OK.
You play competitive. No, I was playing regular.
Your character levels up as you accomplish things with them.
Really. OK.
So it it goes from like Agent Knights Centurion.
Yeah, yours. Yours is still a garbage.
No, I damn, No, it's not. I play.
I I've been playing lately. You you have to the achievements

(18:24):
that you have. Yeah, you have to keep.
Yeah. Viewing those, actually I
shouldn't, I should talk 'cause I haven't played in like 2 weeks
exactly. I gotta get back on there.
Yeah, I really enjoyed it. You haven't reached Lord Gaga
status. Oh, Lord Gaga.
Did you just say that? Lord Gaga, Lord.
It was all. Started like, oh come on man.
People before I was on set my son, stay relevant.
Is. That stay relevant.

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Stay in touch. You out of touch.
Lose it. Yo, that's yeah, I'm done that.
Shot got my. Lord Guard, that's freaking.
Hilarious. Kev, are you burning?
Kev, How was Overcooked too? That was great.
You played Overcooked too? Yeah, and why'd you play
Overcooked too? It's my daughter again.
You know what? I'm.
When I'm drawing into these games that I've beaten a long
time ago, it's always Zuri. It's always my daughter drags me

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back in. She saw the art and she was
like, this game looks fun, let'scheck it out.
And she's actually, you give her, you know, the task that
she's supposed to do. And it's like she likes it a
lot. She likes it a lot.
I just picked it up. It's good.
Overcooked too is better. It's the mechanics and stuff in
the stages, in the recipes. It's definitely better than one
in that regard. It's actually good for someone

(19:28):
her age to like pick up on like memorization and like following
through in timing, time management, prioritizing certain
shit. Like that's actually very good
for her to play. Now, when we played it when she
was 4 and she was like having a hard time and now she's better
at it. So I was like, OK, cool.
I'm like, she passed the point where she's like, OK, cool, I'll
cook this thing, put this in thepot, take it off, put it on the

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plate. My God it's getting me anxiety
right now. But not but not but not Part 1.
No, I, we. I don't own Part 1.
OK, but I'll say she'll she'll break a controller real quick on
Part 1. Part 1 was something like that.
Was that was really last boss? Was yo dude?
No, that dude, that last boss was rough.
That level does that easy, normal and hard or.
No, no I don't think so. It's like there's no

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accessibility moving out. It's the only multiplayer Co-op
simulation party game I've seen with an accessibility so far.
Catastronauts doesn't have one either.
I still like. I still like Catastronauts the
best. I still I like that.
I don't argue that that is actually done very, very well,
you know, very well. And it does not get the credit
deserves at all. Shout out to Inertia Games for

(20:34):
crafting that. That's a really really great
game. Overcook 2 is great, but it's
not my favorite. It's not my favorite.
It's it's dope though, And I'm, I'm I had a great, we had a
great time playing the game. You know, the freaking burgers,
the pizza taking things out. It's it's, it's I'm hungry.
It's in venom. It's it's a good grade.
It's if you've not played overcooked 2, I think they have
all overcooked all you can eat with all the DLC and it goes on

(20:55):
sale a lot. So we got to play some of that
DLC for Part 2. I'm going to the buffet A.
Couple of games you got to play like that A.
Shit, actually. Yeah.
This is shit load of games back for real let's be.
Speaking of shout outs, shout out Gordo.
Gordo actually sound kind of dope.
But. Yeah, that's, that's all the new

(21:15):
stuff. I'm still playing the usual
suspects. All right, that's the new stuff.
Good. And you're still playing a Union
Chronicles, right? Jay is not style.
No, we played. We already talked about it.
Oh, that's all. That's it.
That's all you played. Oh, OK, cool.
That's all I wanted. I was like, hey, you skipped
sticks and. Stuff.
No, no. We know sticks don't play no
games and. I was kidding.

(21:36):
Wow, yeah, I actually got like 3hours before the podcast of of
this game and I remember Reggie was saying it pops off when you
get your own base and I'm I feellike I'm about to get it.
I'm almost there because some shit just went down.
But it's dope. I like it.
I like it. I'm a sweet couldn't guy, and

(21:59):
the one thing I noticed I like alot in this that they've done
very well was the the music is starting to there's some tracks
already I heard, and I'm I'm 10 minutes.
I'm not 10 minutes, I'm 10 hours.
It's that damn chartreuse shot, man.
It's fucking. You had chartreuse.
Yeah, worried. Yeah.
So I gave sticks also, yeah, 10 hours in and then some, some

(22:19):
things, some conflict between the characters are are kicking
in so and the music starting to pick up.
So I'm like, OK, now, now I see what's going on, but that
fucking character is still killing me.
I was talking about last time, that Frederica, that the healer
that turns extremely ratchet. Oh my God, dude.
She's fucking kills me all the time.

(22:41):
Kills me all the time because she's sweet one second and then
she starts screaming out, rip your arms out.
Shove. Them down your throat.
So she's like a chick from Queens.
She's like from the Bronx. Yeah, yeah.
That's a ratchet chicken. Please stop.
That's not. Yeah, no, no, it's fucking
hilarious. But no, I'm enjoying it, man.

(23:01):
I like it a lot. I'm upset that so I could have
one and two remaster is out because I love one, never play 2
and I'm dying to play them. But I can't go back-to-back to
back RPG's. I can't.
I can't do that at. The same time.
Oh my, this guy over here plays like 3 fucking 200 hour games
Yeah I don't know, lots of competitive games yeah.
How do you do that? Why, How, why do you do that?

(23:23):
Yeah, it's not it's too much. It's not how, it's why 'cause.
I like I like how Eric and and Turbo wearing their viewing Ken
T-shirts like they didn't even. Play.
No, that's that's hilarious. Yeah, that's.
So fire to me. I just, I just, I just noticed
that's so. Dope, yeah.
And. Also.
Yeah, he's got a streak. Oh, look at that.
Yeah, we we in sick, right? Now I got I got the Black

(23:43):
Panther on my chest. That's hilarious.
We're In Sync with no No land space.
Wow, No land space. Wow.
No Justin Timberlake. All right, we're gonna have to
say bye. Bye.
Bye to that. You know what I'm saying?
Like that? Then no.
It's it actually still bothers me that I have not touched
Street Fighter Six and I don't have access to play it on a
consistent basis. That guy over there either.

(24:04):
I mean, I'm I own that because Iown the game and you I didn't
even own it. I don't I didn't even started.
I didn't even start the game andit's a physical or a digital.
No, a digital digital. It was a sale.
It was like a freaking impulse buy.
It was like 30 bucks. I was like, you know what I'll
pick it up. Yo Leslie, if you still there
man, we got to start the PS 523rd stallion fun right now.

(24:26):
That's how I'm going to play this game.
We need to get me on Street Fighter 6.
I need to start it. No, I need to start Street
Fighter six man. Actually, when I get down, I
like the new mechanics look pretty fun, but so I even
chronicles is on plan right now.It's a nice all right, so before
this cast ends abruptly from a bad.
Hold on hold on. Shout out to Kevin Mascarinas

(24:47):
first time watcher elite vibe. Yo, what's good?
Actually, Kevin came to Monday Night Raw with me.
Oh, what up my? Mood and his and my mood.
Shut up, shut up. Thank you for showing up bro
appreciate you. Where's the Captain Crunch?
Yes, Captain Crunch. All day, Captain Crunch.
All absolutely man count Chocula.
All them. Stop it, I'm.

(25:07):
Sorry, I need like a pie. Oh yeah, got it.
Please hit those like buttons. We're 18 watch and hit the like.
Yeah. Especially before we shut down
and before they cancel us. Yeah, this laptop is is
struggling right now. It's struggling.
And yeah, we're going to announce the the indie game of
the week before this thing shutsdown.

(25:31):
I put the button like oh God. 20.
Seconds. Ago the computer's fighting but
we good we going we're going to get through this podcast we're
going like 10 frames a second all right we're in six frames
right now not 60 yes. It's not, it's 6 frames.
All right, so the no drum roll. Hey, listen, you just got cut to
it. Cut to.
It the indie. Game of the Week is Iron

(25:53):
Cryptical, released July 12, 2017, developed by Confused
Pelican, published by Tiki Pod, available on PS4, Xbox One and.
PCI dig those names confused Pelican and Tiki Pod.
That's just fucking hilarious tome.
I dig that. I fuck with that.
OK, this works all right. Good.
Yeah. My hairstyle was wild.

(26:13):
You're wearing a wig every old clip you show.
My hair is all over the fuck place.
But no dude, I really enjoyed the fuck out of this game
because it's so fucking simple. Sometimes I just want to play
something simple. Yeah and competitive and coop.
I love that shit. I like this.
I like the fact that it was like, it is a rogue like, but
it's like a I like rogue likes where you feel the progression.

(26:35):
Yeah, yeah. I don't like it when you when
you lose everything and you don't, you don't feel like you
did anything and you could buy stuff.
There you go. There's a map right there.
There's different paths you can go.
Some it's easier, some just a lot tougher.
Yeah. Had gone had gone with vibes.
Yeah, play Smash TV. Yeah, it was like a gauntlet
Smash TV type shit. Yeah, that's what it reminded me
of. And there I am with my goofy
gaming face. On yo, that is the permanent

(26:55):
face you always. Have just like.
It's like you can't see and thatyou smelled someone fart at the
same time. Exactly and right.
It's the, it's like a, oh, you know, the, the Chris Rock face,
the yeah. Yeah.
It's almost the same shit. Exactly.
Yeah, the chalk gaming face. Yo, I'm gonna get you a shirt.

(27:16):
The chalk. Gaming face?
Oh, that's fire, Yeah. I'm gonna do it.
I swear to God. I'm gonna get it for you.
Put Yeah, put his face on the shirt, could you?
Imagine. Like.
How much of an arrogant prick I'd have to be to wear AT shirt
with my own face? On it.
I'll fucking wear it. I'll get that shit.
I'll fucking wear that with a blazer.
I'll give a shit. I already told Al on his

(27:36):
birthday. I'm gonna get that picture with
the the the green glitter. Wear a green blazer over that
shit. Oh, that was crazy.
Yo I will for Saint Patty's day,word all taste.
I will do that shit. That's Oh dear God this weekend.
It's on. It's close.
It's Monday, I think. Jesus.
Oh, wow, that's right. Get ready for plastic cups and
sweat stains and then flannel shirts and a lot of alcohol.

(28:04):
Oh. Man, what was this part and a
lot of abuse. I don't know.
Why don't I remember this part? I definitely don't remember
this. I don't.
Oh, no, it's a race. I do remember it's a race.
Oh, this is like a side Yeah, for it's a bonus thing to see
who gets like the the cash or whatever.
Oh, that's cool. Yeah, No, this game is very
played three years ago after we played this one fucking time,
which is bullshit and I can't remember it.
I want to play this like now it actually looks.
This is really this was a good time.

(28:25):
Yeah, I fuck with shit like this, man.
Give me that old school shit. I got stuck.
Yeah, someone got stuck. I got stuck.
Man, But yeah, no shout out to There we go shout out to.
Confused. Confused Pelican.
That's the dopest fucking name ever.
It's all of. That shit.
Confused. I need that game.

(28:45):
I need that game. Confused Pelican.
I like the Untitled Goose Game. Yeah, that same thing.
Yeah. All right.
Moving on. What's next?
You know what's next? Is it time?
Hold up, hold up, guys. Is it time?
No. What is going on?
What happened? Paul C with the Super chat.

(29:06):
Really. Paul C hit with the Super.
He's trying to keep the lights on.
God bless this man. These guys are throwing money
at. Us I feel like a God damn only
fans person and I just showed mydamn.
No, no, man, what the hell? Wow, wow.
Now this is for the chalk shirt.Yeah, yeah, you.
Have to get this shirt. Appreciate you, Paul C.

(29:29):
Thanks, yo. Thank you, Paul.
Thank you man. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Loving the chat today. Man, we on fire.
Don't want money? And I'm not see what's happening
with the computer. Yeah, right.
They're. Like, yo, for real?
What's up? Yo, the computer is dying.
No, for real. This thing is like it is dying.
It's about to die. I don't know if this thing is
it's gonna just restart in the middle. yo-yo, we gotta be

(29:50):
careful with the buttons we hit.I mean, I'm.
Yeah, I. Don't know.
We gotta keep the show going, yeah.
What time is it? What time?
Trying to do our best man, is ittime yet?
It is. Ladies and gentlemen, Jesus for
the news. I hate you.

(30:17):
Bro she's so much yo hate you somuch.
Not you know what's worse is theit's the fact that it's like a
glitch through me. Freaking scene glitches.
I don't. Have my mumble so so so.
Yeah, Temple said. Only styles when I like that.
Only styles. I like that.
Hey, wow, keep an eye out. Y'all about to see some toes,

(30:42):
about to see some corns and fucking some bunions and corns.
Whatever keeps. Hold on yo, whatever keeps the
lights on man. Fuck, man.
People pay for feet. You want to.
See my bunions. Yo, how did we get here?
Paul said if you take some pantsoff, I want a refund.
All right, hold on a second. Lot of mercy.

(31:04):
All right, y'all put it all. Right.
Let's get it together, guys. Let's get it together.
All with the news. I can't deal.
Just closes up. Xbox handheld pulley set for
2025 release According to Microsoft, they have plans this
year to really supportable handheld system.
Contrary to what they said before.

(31:25):
They said oh it's in the works. We're thinking about it seems
like a good idea, but we don't know when they're.
Thinking about a lot of things. So it's a couple of years off.
So now they said, oh, we can just make a quick one real
quick. Throw money at it, man.
Let's. See how that goes?
Let's see how that goes. Throw a couple of bill.
Listen, my only thing is if it's, it's a device.
It's a device code name Keenan Keenan, every wing.

(31:45):
That's why I was, I was, I was thinking.
Of my name. Like Keenan Keenan Thompson.
Yes, that's what I was thinking of.
I was like, what's that motherfucker?
Saying, oh, funny. Still, it's going to be a funny
system. Hell yeah, it's.
A comedy it's. Going to be real funny when it
doesn't sell. Yeah, it's.
Going to be a joke. Listen, it'll sell more.
Listen if it'll sell more than their system right now.
That's. It will sell more than the
current Xbox. Probably.

(32:06):
Yeah, so that's a good idea on their part.
But I mean, listen, it's a PC anyway.
Microsoft is. It's PC software, man.
All the systems are currently PCs anyway.
That's true. So you got a portable one and
you got Game Pass and you're streaming.
It's gonna get out to more people depending on the price.
That's a big factor. If it's anywhere in the $500

(32:26):
range, I think they'll be in a good space.
It's. Just gonna be $800.
If it's 800, bad space. 772 games.
All the games, that's the thing.Streaming only.
If it has the power, if it has, if they can possibly get this
out with the power of an Xbox One S, then that's crazy.
Yeah, that's. Actually, that would be good.
If they can pull that off, but Idon't know if the processor can

(32:49):
currently do that. But I mean, listen to Microsoft.
They have the, they have the power to do something.
And you could stream it like to your TV, like plug like like a
Switch type of thing. So it'll be like a console and
handheld? If they replace this with that,
they could. Play Halo Infinite on the go,
but you're still waiting for that multiplayer.
Yo shut up bro. No, no, no, no.
Both of the actual game. There, shut up.
Now the multiplayer costs extra.Yes, they're gonna charge you

(33:12):
board. Here's the thing, Realm so
tired. Here's the thing though, if it's
$800, which it possibly can be, that's that's top of the line
right now for PC handheld game. Cheese, but they could take a
price. They could.
They could take a hit. So if they could bring it down
to six or five, much better if they could bring it down to like
450. 5 is solid. Then that's crazy. 5 is solid.
Just take the loss like they have been.

(33:34):
I mean, if they take the use of that they've been taking else
for the systems, yeah. But no Steam Deck.
The we just Steam Deck is so lowin a price at an introductory
level is because Steam is how they get their money, not the
system. Yes, it's a Trojan horse to get
you to buy all the games for soft.
Yeah, and they've been making ridiculous amounts of money
because of it. It's the razor, the shaving

(33:55):
razor blade market business model.
Yeah, you take the loss on the hardware and you sell the
software console. Razors are cheap, but the blades
are mad expensive. Yeah, so that's how they get
you. But the Switch, too, is supposed
to be as powerful as an Xbox Series S.
No. We don't even know anything.
No, that's the rumors, OK, That's the right we.

(34:15):
Don't even know Xbox comes out. They're going to announce the
shit in three weeks. Yeah terrible.
Will let his D riding be like knowing.
I'm so confused. Like he'll just ride it just
because he wants to ride it because.
We're talking about an Xbox handheld.
How you how you translate? He said it's supposed to a
rumor. It's.
It's got it's at least it's powerful.
The Xbox portable is at least you understand how as a series S

(34:36):
you. See how at least you understand
how silly it is to like, argue over a rumor?
You. Don't even know anything.
How turbo doesn't is how technology works.
So I do we we buy these. Come on DL double SI know about
all that man 60 frames. There.
We go. Happy.
He just thrown out letters. He just thrown out letters.
It's like a buzzword, yeah. So what does that stand for?
Turbo. 64 bit architecture. I know about all this stuff.

(34:58):
That's not the answer. Deep learning.
Deep learning something? There you go.
Congratulations, you played justdeep.
Deep learning, sampling, you know, I know about that.
Oh my God, I know. Makes things look prettier.
Get to the higher frame rate. That's how you end the topic.
That's how you destroy it. No, no, no, no.
What's the consequence of running at?
Come on, power, Battery. OK, Battery.

(35:20):
No, it's not lag. Lag is the copy.
Resolution if you're doing it, if it's going to be a higher
frame rate, you might lose a little bit of resolution.
You do the higher resolution. Man just got publicly exposed.
Look it up, it's all facts. Trying.
To make it argue. I've never seen a man simp so
hard for riding is crazy. These guys just don't want to

(35:43):
give me my flowers. Pause.
Pause. Listen Turbo, we will always
give you your flowers when you pause.
Give us correct. Information I don't want
flowers. Separately, back to the news.
Wow, they are going to. They say they're also working on
of proprietary handheld for 2027, which if it if it does
come out this year, that's pretty much the the release

(36:05):
schedule for these handheld devices is every two years as
far as updating. But listen, they're not in for
the long haul. They just bring it out.
They're going to bring out updates.
It's a test because you can't have this stuff.
Yeah, with technology way it's going run the same games in two
years. Yep.
Or three. I'd say three years is tops of a
start running at 10 frames, but not that they have this.

(36:27):
They said, you know, bring this out.
The one that we planned on is still coming out in 2027, which
is probably going to be with therelease of their other hardware
for the Xbox. Will that be out before stay the
K3? That's probably, probably.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's questionable.
That's questionable. No, not questionable.
I think it's questionable for sure they're going to close the
studio before they. Before they release.

(36:47):
We got a John Cena heel term before we got stayed at the K.
3. Seriously.
Seriously. Spoiler alert.
Before ADC. Spoiler alert, yeah.
That's not a split shot bro. Throw like a trick at.
Him but listen, all right last thing about last thing about
this system is what makes this what's gonna make this different
than like a a you know a currentPC handheld it's out right now.

(37:09):
Right, there's a lot of them. Like a Legion Go or a Steam Deck
Ally X. What's gonna make this
different? Because when you go in there,
you can go to the Xbox app and it pretty much brings you to a
whole different layout on how you use the system.
Yep. I'm guessing that's the easy
guess that that's gonna be the home screen of the Xbox.
Like they're gonna, they're gonna integrate that in there.
When you start the game, you're gonna be in the system already

(37:30):
for Xbox and they're gonna streamline that you're not gonna
deal with. They're gonna try, if they're
smart to not let you go to Windows at all unless I'm by
choice. It's good to have.
You must always be online. If you want a computer, yes you
will. At all times.
What? A panel No.
Yes, with the handheld, yeah, they'll sync it to your phone to
know where you are at all times,what websites you're on, Yeah.

(37:52):
Bad idea with a hand in. We'll get your phone in from.
Yep, all that. Well, check in is another story.
They're gonna want you to check in online.
But yeah, good idea. I think they should have had it
earlier. Yeah, like the LAX should have
been Xbox X should have been LAXXbox.
That's what it should have been.The next day is for Xbox we can
talk about. I didn't say anything.

(38:12):
Wouldn't surprise me if it was already though.
They said they're working with athird party.
If Aces popped up and was like, yo, we just changed it, we put
Box at the end, we could. That's all they really had to
do. That's really what they love,
Box. That was shit box.
Yo I like yo I like the the lovebox.
Shit box, I said. We love Box.
We love Box. Wow.

(38:33):
What's the? Next.
Nice, nice, good way to end thissegment, alright.
We're not talking. Oh dear.
I said. All right, move on.
Which by the way, if they were to call the portable system the
the Xbox E, then you have the S,the E and the X.
We've been waiting. They try to do that with Tesla

(38:56):
also. Yeah, they couldn't do it.
It's gonna happen. Sensational.
Big joke it will be. A big joke.
All right, this is funny. The gamer tries to sell PS4 Pro
to GameStop, gets asked to pay instead.
Wow, that's a. That's a that is.
A dude, I was like, how bad doesyour trade in margin have to be

(39:19):
that you have to pay to give in your system?
What is the? What is happening the?
Value is for real. They said he was told he had to
pay $5 instead of do the missingaccessories and the lack of a
pro membership. What?
Wait a minute. So he didn't have controllers, I
guess, And they said you got to pay us $5 to take it.

(39:39):
That is. Crazy. $5 to take it.
That is. Yeah, like.
PS4 Pro is still worth a decent amount it can play.
Was it stolen or something then?Is that why?
What the hell? That's like trying to go to a.
It's like trying to go to a sex worker and you fuck yourself.
Some people do that self-serve. Why would you pay?

(40:02):
Listen, I've, I mean, I've heardlike you're bringing stuff to
recycle and sometimes you got topay to get them recycled like
ATV or something too big. But you're this is the working
device, you know, assuming that it's working.
It's new. You could buy a broken PS5 Pro
or PS4 Pro. Not fine.
PS4 Pro broken and still make money off it.

(40:23):
You're not paying somebody to take your broken system.
Thanks for coming through, Slamble.
Yeah, appreciate you silly assemble.
Yeah. Sir.
But the fact that Oh my gosh, like the the same, what they're
saying is that the controls are working on the system.
Wow, what is it, $80? For controller.
I think it's 84 Pro. I said PS4 Pro with the.
Oh, PS4 Pro. Yeah, they said the OK.

(40:44):
They said the back market check showed that the PS4 Pro without
accessories could fetch around 100.
Dollars. Damn.
That's still low. What the?
That's a pro. That's a pro system.
It still runs 60 frames, say 60 frames.
See. Like a robot, you got him to say
shit like a man. That's like a frames.

(41:04):
So I'm not thinking. You got him to say it on
command. Six verse, 6 frames.
Press the button. Also this is standard.
There's one he said the same game.
Also tried trading Xbox One and GameStop requested a $20
payment. Damn.
So he's got to pay $25.00 to give in both systems.
Oh my God, might as well. Keep it, Just keep it.
Keep it. What are you getting?
Give it to your nephew. Give it to your fucking

(41:25):
whatever. Give it to somebody in your
family. I'm.
Assuming he wasn't expecting to get much for this stuff, he just
wanted it for a new game. Keep it possibly a new game. 70
bucks? Can you get 70 bucks for Xbox
One to the PlayStation 4 pro? You think you would.
You think you? Would an entire console.
Yeah, 2. Consoles.
Do we know the? And you have to give money.
Do we know the condition of the console doesn't matter, I mean
if it works. If it was.

(41:46):
Plastic, if it works, if it was run over by a car or something
like it fell out of a building, if it was broken, it was just
parts. I would understand right?
That's why I asked if it's working.
But if it works. It could be 1 button if you're
paying $25 from the take it. That's stupid.
You're missing the controller and the for.
Sure. Dude, dude, it didn't have to
have wires or anything. Yeah, if it turns on it should

(42:08):
be worth it. Even the power.
Dollars, at least the. Power cables, It's like a
universal cable. Like you could just buy one at
anyway. No, you got pay.
Dude the controllers are $50.00 right at that.
And you got pay trade in something.
What sense does that make? So crazy to me.
Just I don't understand the possible thing like who would

(42:28):
pay? You who would pay?
That doesn't make sense. I don't know, man.
I would say, excuse me. They didn't want to take it.
I don't. Know well that's why GameStop is
not doing well. I'm surprised we still talk
about them. I.
Thought they would be belly up on.
I'm surprised they're still around.
They're still around. Well, they change CEOs every two
months, so. They're waiting for the switch
too. And like, you know, we got
another, another year or two we got.
This Yeah, new consoles, the only way they they make money.

(42:51):
That's. It God damn, that's it.
That's all we got for the news. The news.
But we're going to take a quick bathroom break and we'll be
right back, hopefully, if this doesn't crash on it.
Doesn't crash. We might be stuck at the screen
here, so oh man. Sign up for your giveaway while
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Put the link in the chat the. Water's scrolling good though.

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Right, that's right. I have to update the giveaway,
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Because you can see that we needsome help keeping the lights on
after after today's. We could use a new computer man.
Let's say you know it's time, it's time, you know, it's like
they only get I forgot one time I got my laptop repaired.

(44:22):
They there's a certain amount ofboots that every computer is
supposed to do. It's a, it's a finite.
It's like you can't just boot the computer forever.
There's a limit. Yes.
How many times you can do it? Something thousand.
I forgot what it was. Yep.
But, you know, these things justdie.
Yeah, when they die. Just gotta buy a new one, you
know? Unfortunately.
Just gotta buy. It gotta buy a new one.
It sucks you always have to keepbuying freaking computers.

(44:45):
I'm not good at updating my my computers.
You're not good at updating yourcomputer.
Drops on DSL. No CompuServe my my Internet is
good. But.
Just updating my laptops. I wait till Al has one myself.
Yeah, that's that's how it works.
I was buying the newest tech allthe time, giving away old shit.
That's my old. My old laptop.
No sticks. Now you know when they're done

(45:06):
with computers, like, all right,let me get it.
Let me get it. It's time 500 when I upgrade 50
shit. It's going to Yeah, it's going
to happen. It's going to happen.
But yeah, this, this is crazy. But it hasn't happened before.
Cool thing is we're still running which is good.
Yeah, right. We haven't been shut down.
I will. I will gladly pay someone to

(45:27):
take my laptop here, right? Can't stop. $5 won't stop it.
No less than me giving 25 it's. Like how much do I owe you?
I will pay you your friend. I'm going to pay you 5 bucks.
Imagine that world worth man it's.
Crazy. No, I can't imagine.
Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
All right, I hit the button, guys.

(45:48):
So we got to wait until it changes.
So yeah. 3 seconds. Just 5 seconds?
I don't know. Oh boy.
We are on our way to the main topic.
Yeah, whenever it gets there. At.
Some. Point you might have to hit the
button again. I hit it a few times.
Oh boy. Oh, there.
It is all right, we're here. We made it.
Guys, you made it. Don't hit that button again,

(46:10):
Jesus. We were hitting no more buttons.
Yeah, yeah. I mean.
Unless it's the camera change maybe?
There's lag everywhere, man, It's lagging.
So yeah, we're hoping that we can get through this show.
Yeah, bear with us. Yeah, we appreciate y'all for
being there. Yep.
So yeah, to start, main topic isthe gaming industry's worst
moves. And boy, have they done a lot.

(46:32):
Yeah. Yeah.
So let's get to it. Who wants to kick it off?
I'll start. Oh, Trump wants to start?
Yeah. All right.
Go ahead, man. Releasing incomplete games.
Yeah, that's a trend that needs to stop.
Yeah. Forcing you to buy DLC.
You got a company in mind? To any of them.
Yeah, well, it's pretty much everything.
But one but one that comes to mind is Street Fighter 5I.

(46:54):
Thought you were gonna say Halo.Halo in for you man.
I wasn't complete. No Co-op for a year are.
You finished. I was.
I thought you were gonna go there.
I was trying to set it up for you, man.
He. Said.
Are you finished? I was trying to set it up for.
You though there will be no Haloslander on my watch but no
Street Fighter five. That game was terrible on

(47:16):
launch. Yes, and I didn't get it until
towards the end of its life cycle and it was amazing, but it
took a while to get there and a a series like that should not be
launching incomplete or subpar for any.
Reason it should had a free to play tournament version which is
what they intended to do when itfirst came.

(47:38):
They made that for the E sports attorneys and I'm like, this is
trash. They like that single handedly
like ruined my like I stopped pre ordering like it it.
I lost faith in pre ordering because of that game.
Because no. It was the Mortal Kombat that
did it to you originally. No, no, no.
They had nothing on it. No, no, no, they they what?

(47:58):
The Mortal Kombat was a different one.
That's a different whole different animal.
But. They didn't have like.
Mortal Kombat X was. I bought Mortal Kombat X right?
Then they released an update, and then they released XL with
all the freaking updates on it. But I do that, yeah, and I'm
like, what the hell? I just bought this freaking
game. Game of the year version.
The finish. Yeah, I think there's like like
two different kinds of DLC that's like acceptable and

(48:21):
unacceptable. So like if you have a complete
game that you buy like a like a Ninja Turtles or a or like
Streets of Rage or something like that, you could play
through the entire game. Yes.
And it's a complete game, yes. Awesome, great.
And if they say, hey, we're going to still release some DLC,
whether if it's paid or free, whatever.
So it's up to you if you want tobuy it or not.

(48:42):
I think that's fine. You know, if it's like an an
addition, like, you know, BatmanArkham Knight, it was a complete
game. Yeah, You know, but they said we
got season pass and we're going to release costumes, challenges
and actually and there's going to be missions.
Just to extend the life of the game.
Yeah, so it's already there. If you want to choose to
partake, you can, but if you don't, you still have a complete
game. That's fine.

(49:04):
Yeah, I'm cool with that. But if you're like, game is not
done. You got to wait for a little
DLC. And you get a little bit of
money. Exactly.
Fuck you. Oh, what if it's not what they
made the game and held back purposely things that were
supposed to be in the game. You can tell and then they add
it like day one. It's like DLC is the whole.
Free. That'd be free DLC.
Yeah, No 3. Hours extra of the game and it's

(49:25):
$20 or whatever. You know, they do that right
away on day one. Yeah.
And how you feel about day one patches, that's part of this.
I'm upset. I don't like that either.
I don't like it either because alot of games, like look at the
age we're in now, everything that has a hint of negativity is
exploded times 500. Yeah, So if you come out with a
really good game, but it just doesn't perform too well, Power

(49:47):
Rangers Days Gone, yeah, it's automatically a bad game.
Even a Panzer Dragoon remake, automatically a bad game.
It ruined my childhood. Duh, duh, duh.
But when they fix it, they don'thear about when it's fixed.
Well, it's like when it first comes out, it's like taking a
brand and burning it into years again.
Yeah, that's what those reviews are doing.
It's burning, yeah, a brand into.
Yeah, and if you haven't played it, oh, they said it sucks like

(50:09):
I probably should. You don't hear about.
You don't hear about. The you don't hear about it
being fixed. Oh, you should play it because
it's fixed now. No one ever said that about Days
Gone. No one ever said that about
Panzer. No, no one ever said that about
any of that shit. Word of mouth travels fast, and
when you got bad and negativity travels faster.
Yeah, well. That negative?
Word of mouth, well, that when that happens, it fucks it up in
the future for anyone else who doesn't know about it.

(50:31):
Articles in general you never post.
They never post the what corrects it, they post what it
isn't. They're wrong.
They never. Post never corrected.
Never. Views are just that doesn't
first. Impression.
It doesn't get clicks. Positivity does get clicks.
We want to shit on companies. That's what the gaming industry
is turning into. Power Rangers sucked so bad.
First week. Second week.

(50:51):
It's amazing. That was great.
You wouldn't know. Yep, you would.
Think that was the worst game released this year?
Yep. If you just go over views,
you're like, yo, I'm not touching Power Rangers.
And the only person who actuallychanged their opinion was Top
Hat Gaming because when it came out he was like, oh there's so
many fucking mistakes. Then when they fixed he's like,
oh Yep, now it's good. Let's check the clicks, Yeah, on
that video where you said it wasbad and where you said it was.

(51:12):
I guarantee it. Probably trip.
The negativity triples, probablythe positivity, because nobody
wants to hear anything positive.Sick.
It's fucking sick. You'll lose subscribers for
being positive. Yeah.
Or no, don't get. People miserable.
Yeah, or you just don't get them.
Just don't get them to. Begin with them.
Yeah, people miserable. People like being miserable.
Army of the Sexless all. Right.

(51:35):
What's? Your name?
Yeah, I just said blanket one. I just don't like digital games
selling for the same price priceas physical I.
Don't like it? I was going to say that I don't
like that either. It's still a sucky industry
thing it. Doesn't make sense.
No, it doesn't make sense. You're not printing paper.
You're not. You're not putting cases out,

(51:57):
not printing. It it's funny, it doesn't help
the case that you know how like they say, oh, you know, when
they're selling like GTA $600.00, they're they're you
know, they're in a talks about. They're wishing for that.
They're wishing it, that's what.They want to pay, that's what
they want to charge for it. But then it's like, well it
costs a lot of money to make games but why are you selling
the fucking game for the same price as a physical if you're
like what the hell? I don't.

(52:18):
It doesn't justify. It feels like I'm.
Getting cheated. It just does.
Because it's nothing. It's literally just ones and
zeros. Man, I mean, if you really think
about it, for GTA6, and this is the only one I'll make an
exception for, that game's been under development for what, the
past decade or so. No, I like four years.
So that production, I honestly like four years.
That production budget is probably exploded.
I understand that. But it's been a lot.

(52:39):
But that doesn't, that doesn't matter.
They're gonna make that back in the first day.
Yeah. Like that's a game, that's.
Gonna they're online. Regardless, yeah, they're online
is gonna for sure make their money back by ripping people.
Not exactly. They're gonna be by charging
triple the price. Charge you triple the price.
But the second part of that is that sometimes physical sells a

(53:00):
lot less than the digital. Yeah, some games and it's.
Like Persia lost crown I bought for 20 bucks physical.
Yeah same. Cheaper than the damn.
I paid 17. Don't understand it.
I don't understand. I bought it right before you
did. Then it was $14.00 physical next
day. Yeah, it's like a physical is
less money sometimes. In fact that game is that low is

(53:21):
crazy to me. Yep, that's wild.
Yep. You wouldn't know if you just
bought Nintendo. I have one to say Ubisoft
Connect. They need to get rid of that
shit. It's not.
Hate. What does that even do I think?
It's fucking hate it. You have to sign in to play the
game I think. It's wonderful.
You need Internet connection basically to to fucking play the
game you can't play. That should be it.

(53:43):
That should be eliminated from every game.
I hate the fact that it has it. I got my OB points, I'm good.
You ain't got none of that shit.I got a.
Free. I got a free suit and Prince of
Persia. You ain't got nothing.
No, I think an art. Book.
Alright, nothing. Alright, so let me tell you the
scenario. So what happened was I, I went
on, I went to where was I was atmy cousin's house, brought my

(54:03):
Steam Deck, right? I had Prince of Persia lost
crown for steam, right? I guess I'm excited.
Signed into the thing before I left my house, already signed
in, put it on sleep, go to play,try to freaking get me to sign
in again and I'm in the freakingcar and I can't play the
freaking thing, man. I can't play the game at all.

(54:24):
They. Don't want you to play, they
don't want you. To I was like, what the hell?
So the good news, the good news was Steam has the return policy
so you can return any digital game as long as you played less
than two hours. Yeah, you can return no
questions asked. You get your money back.
And that's what I did. And then I got it for the Switch
because it's the only one that doesn't have Ubisoft Connect
because the Switch is Internet sucks.
So they they have worked on it. That's why it works.

(54:46):
Nintendo, Nintendo's like them. Do you understand this is what
we've been trying to do? It's all part of our plan.
We're trying to get people on ontheir couches to play together
again. That sounds terrible anyways.
All right, I got I got one to add on to what you had with the
digital games, Nintendo with Mario 3D All Stars allowing

(55:09):
limited supply to be sold and then taking it off the market.
Oh yeah. And there's the age.
Wow, like a limited supply of something that can be just
digitally accepted and bought atany time.
Just leave it on your server andyou'll make money.
It doesn't make sense to make a game and take it away.
They also did it with Fire Emblem.

(55:29):
The English translated version for the NES said, oh, it's
available for two months and then we're going to take it
away. Like who did the translation?
Why do that to somebody? They put in work for that.
People are fans of it. It's digital.
Yeah. Who's it hurting?
Yeah, leave it. Get money.
And if. Why are you against making
money? If.
You're going to do that at least.
At least give a physical copy before you take it off.

(55:51):
Well, no, I'm saying even if it's physical, if it's not, if
it's not like a limited edition copy of that title, Yeah, the
regular edition of the game should be available.
Yeah, to buy if it's new. Fire on them game.
Fuck that game. Damn, that's all.
It's old and ugly. That's not the point.
The point is that they took it away.
From. They they, they did it as a

(56:12):
test. They're like, let's see if
people still want this particular game.
Let's get those numbers. Because if they want this game,
we'll come back out with it, butit'll be redone and then we'll
get the money. Still doesn't make.
Sense. Just like F0.
Just like F0. Do people still care about this?
Oh, they like it. All right, let's continue making
a new one. Why take it away though?

(56:34):
Nuts because it's because it's nuts.
The money they're so they're so rich that that doesn't even it's
like whatever, they don't even care.
Money's money, but. Where is this game?
Though it's being worth. They got to pirate it now and
then they go, oh, don't pirate out games.
Yeah, why take it away? That's.
What it leads to, yes, that's what it leads to.
Piracy. They're cooking.
Yeah, but that's they're cookingand I don't, I don't agree with

(56:56):
it. I know you got one to go with it
but E shop we can go into it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, the E shop look the the switch has been out for eight
years and in the 8 years I thinkthey made might have updated the
E shop like 3 times. What they did put Mario as a
little icon which. Which slowed down the Internet
even more Yeah, that was stupid.I think that's the funniest
part. They put that in there like to

(57:17):
be cute and it slowed things down more a little 8 bit.
Mario slowed down your shop. Yo, have you noticed how much of
A and this is hard wired in? Yeah, this is a hard wired
Ethernet cable switch and it's like it's a chore to freaking go
to the shop. You go to the page, you have to
wait for it to load and I'm like, yo, what the hell, man?
It's. A chore to go past the first

(57:37):
page. I love looking up indie games,
but it takes so long to look up indie games.
And then, and then they did the,the one of the updates, they put
the number of games that they have.
It's like 5000 games. And you're like, Oh my God, I
would need how many pages? I would need five months to get
through this fucking thing because the the internet's so
fucking slow. It's so bad, man.
And the quality of the trailer. Yes.

(57:59):
When you click it, yes. If it has a trailer, yeah.
Sometimes those they look disgustingly bad.
Yeah, Micro doesn't do it on theXbox, doesn't do it on the
PlayStation. Go on YouTube, you'll see it
fine. Yeah, I don't know what happens
when it hits. In fact, that Switch, it's funny
you said that because that's what I do.
I see a game, I'm like, oh, thatlooks interesting.
Go on my phone, look at it. Go on YouTube and look at the

(58:20):
trailer. It'll be way faster because I
can't watch it way faster. It's crazy.
Way faster. And they don't let you.
They don't let you buy the gameslike before.
When they had that, what was it?The virtual virtual shop or
whatever. They had, Oh yeah, the Virtual
Console. Virtual Console.
So they let you buy the games. I know why they changed it
because they wanted an infrastructure that can move
along with the system so they didn't think ahead and they just

(58:43):
had you switch every time you buy a new system to buy the same
Mario game over and over and over.
And now they finally changed it.I mean people are still pissed
because they didn't see that twitch yet, but they didn't even
offer it. Nope, they took away the Virtual
Console. And also the the gold points
man. Gold points too now.
They're getting rid of the gold points.
Like why aren't you thinking ahead?

(59:04):
No, you knew the system was going to change.
Why can't you just integrate thegold coins?
They had eight. Move it over.
They had eight years. That would make sense bro.
That would make. Sense they're like use them.
You're asking for too much. I don't.
Understand like, listen. I don't understand what goes on
behind the scenes. So I don't know how easy it is
to move that money over to something else.
But they could just be like, oh,I'll give you a gift card, use
it over here. Something.

(59:24):
Nothing. No, no.
You have to spend. There like use it or lose.
It and you know what sucks? And.
What you're going to do, even ifyou lose, you're going to buy a
goddamn switch to anyway, so shut up.
That's that's pretty much, that's the mentality.
That's the the worst thing aboutthe gold points is if you buy it
like let's say you use the gold points, you get more gold
points. You can't get rid of them.
So they give you a cold point. Well, the cool thing is I mean

(59:45):
I'm, I'm in a, I'm in a better position because I don't have
that many. I have like $3.50.
I will use it for the DLC for Splintered Fate, which is 7
bucks. So yeah.
But when you do that, you're going to get more gold.
I'll get like what, 2020 cents? I'll get $0.20, whatever like
that, but still. But if it was for a $5060 game,
yeah, I know what you're saying,but.
Like you think any amount of people who don't realize they

(01:00:06):
have gold points right and then when they do it's gone?
For what reason? It's gone, The switch isn't
gone. What is the reason?
Well, I hope that if, if there is a reason for it and it's
because they're, I hope the reason is that the switch to is
going to have a, a, a full-fledged like working eShop.
We could assume. So that's what I'm I'm hoping

(01:00:27):
they. Didn't do nothing, No.
For eight years, no. For real, they did not do a damn
thing to the eShop. Man I always wonder why they
were so shitty with that. Like it's just almost impossible
to find something in their shop and just flooded with over.
Because it became a hit so fast,you know, they just could not
keep up with the infrastructure upgrades or.

(01:00:50):
Eight years, dude. The amount of money and
resources these motherfuckers have.
Come on. Man, they were late.
What is the reason that? Game with HD, you know I forgot.
Who I was talking to, they just don't care.
I don't think they care. One guy in a week 1 smart, very
smart guy can do that entire shop over significantly change

(01:01:11):
the experience. One guy.
They're a very conservative company, I.
Would I would say they just, this is good and it's bad.
They just do what they want and nobody can tell them otherwise.
Yeah. And This is why.
And there's, there's, there's bad and then there's good with
that. Mario Kart is up to 60 million
sold. Jesus Christ.
Like that's why, yeah, that's why they don't care about.

(01:01:33):
Yeah. And that's why it's a release
title. Yeah, on the Switch too.
And the and the Internet works on that.
Yeah, yeah. Internet.
Better work on that. Works on that because that's
their flagship. Never.
I never had any issues with the Mario Kart online ever.
Oh no. People get kicked.
People get. Kicked.
Well, I mean between, between matches, but not like during, Oh
yeah, yeah, not during the match, but like connection
before. Whatever.

(01:01:54):
I never had any issues with Tetris 99 Mario Kart.
Yeah, those are good. And that's that's amazing.
I'm like, that's about it. Everything else is there's
issues. Every other game there's issues.
Fucking what was it? Mario Maker?
Oh, that was you couldn't even that was a disaster.
That was a fucking disaster. Wanna play a game in three
frames? All right.
Could you make it online? You couldn't make it online?

(01:02:16):
Yeah. Mario World 1.
Nope. Yeah.
Yeah, that online. You gotta make a Mario online
maker. I mean, we've already talked
about it like a week ago, but obviously the live service shit
that that that's that's will always.
Can be a mistake. I think that always has been
bothering me. Yeah, Chuck.
Can we get specific? Are we talking about Warner

(01:02:40):
Brothers pieces of shit? No, we're going to talk about
Marvel's Avengers first. Oh, Oh, yeah, that's a good one,
yeah. Bruh yeah, how do you fumble The
Avengers? I think, I think it, that was
something I think with somethinglike that, it's, it's, I think
what's so, so bad and it goes back to what we were talking
about with multiverses and stuff.
When the execution of how the game plays, the most important

(01:03:03):
part is done so well. And that's what's so funny and
the characters are done so well.And and when you have that as a
base and you fuck that up with characters from a universe that
is infinite, you know, from the you could just keep the things
that were in the data mine with Scarlet Witch, Doctor Strange,
people that were Captain Marvel,who was supposed to be released

(01:03:25):
before it it went belly up. The fact that that's what it
became and you know, kudos to the campaign because campaign is
dope. You know, campaign is dope and
and that's the fail safe. That's like, all right, at least
the campaign was dope and you can still play it to this day.
But the potential of what that should have been, it's so fucked
up because they never played that dope, those those

(01:03:46):
characters. Yeah, this is the thing.
When that came out, live servicewasn't really like, you know,
they were they were dabbling in it, but you can tell in that
game that they were working on the solo game and that they
tacked on the live service secondary and you could tell
they can't hide that. Yep.
And the fact that oh, the the one player game was so good and

(01:04:07):
the gameplay mechanics were goodin the game.
The fact that that live service,everyone saw that it was half
assed. They're trying to do the way
they tried to do it. They're trying to do a forever
game. That's what they're trying to
do. The game it all, it was supposed
updates and that's it. Yeah, we knew it.
We knew it wasn't supposed. To be it was better off just
being at five more hours to the game.
Keep it Co-op and make a sequel.They had the the make a.

(01:04:28):
Panther, they do. The yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was what they were supposed.
To do as a single player and then have the multiplayer like
as a as like an extra. Yeah.
As a as an extra. Well, yeah, that's.
And if you want to do another one, and you can always.
It's OK to do a sequel. Yeah, it's OK.
Now, the fact that you fuck thisup, you can't do a sequel
because now you put a fucking black eye on it.
Yeah, Yeah. So it's like, no, no, Marvel's

(01:04:48):
Avengers coming back out, even though there's a rumor of a
Marvel's Avengers coming out by a different company, right.
But it's like now when people think about it, they're not
excited anymore. Yeah, and on top of that, the
black eye on that Marvel's Avengers game was so bad that it
gave a black eye to Guardians ofthe Galaxy, which was actually.

(01:05:09):
Which was a good game and a complete game, not live service.
Yeah. And people were like, we're not
excited about it. Exactly.
And it got no, no press. That game was so the soundtrack
alone in that game. And not to give you PTSD, but
they fumble how you fumble spider man coming to the fucking
game. How do you fumble spider man
coming to the game? Bro.

(01:05:30):
That is crazy. How do you not put them on both
systems? That is that.
That is dumb. That is dumb that.
How do you not get Wolverine on the?
Yeah, I was just about to say you won't be on the Xbox with
Spider. Like how do you fucking us up if
you're? Going to do console exclusive
characters. You've got to give us, got to
give Xbox something. And to be honest, not to cut you
off, but to be honest. But like Avengers playing like

(01:05:51):
that, it's fucking awesome. It's just so dope.
It's so. Many.
Like I thought of this game the other day and I said I want to
play this game, but I feel hurt.I feel hurt.
I feel hurt to play this game because it Captain America
played so well. Hawkeye played, everyone played
fucking amazing, everyone's great.
It was just like, dude, come on,why did you do this to the to

(01:06:14):
The Avengers? You know what games are being
developed at the same time? Guardians of the Galaxy and
Avengers, The real games. That's why that's what it was
supposed to be, Both of them. Yeah.
And then they should have released the live service part
of Avengers separately as a freedownload if you want to go that
way. Yeah, that's what it should have
been. And yeah, Sentinels in the
background being hinted, you know, like, you know, and people
think of X-Men because people are working on AX Men game.

(01:06:35):
They don't know what kind of game it's going to be, but it's
like, yeah, you, you brought youbrought that the mouth for an
X-Men game like that. But then you get very cautious
because like, don't you dare make this life service because
you're going to fuck it up, justlike you've been fucking up
everything that involves superheroes.
If you want that Wolverine suit,though, yeah, exactly.
You got to buy it at Yeah. Exactly.
Go ahead, Al. Yeah.

(01:06:55):
And I was going to say to add tothat, as far in general, just
the closing of studios, you brought up a high fi rush, like
studios that just closed down with successful games.
And it's like, what the fuck? What's going on?
That's fucking bullshit. You know, like that was a big,
that was a big one. That was a big.

(01:07:15):
But how old things are? It's infrastructure of how much
money is being spent on these things and how much they're
losing without you realizing because it's too high.
But The thing is with high fire rush, I think it only had it can
only go so high because it was released initially on it was
like. Shadow drop it was.
Shadow drop, it was game Pass. It was Game Pass so.
It's there, no matter how good the game was, nobody was

(01:07:37):
actually buying it because it was.
It took a while. It took them after actually came
out after they got closed. Yeah, physically.
Wow. After they got closed, it was
available. Because that that game was.
Fired and it's I wish it was games that sucked that this
happened too. Yeah you know, like, like was it
Concorde or whatever else? Yeah yeah, yeah like these are
all games that are fucking great.
They play great, but the studio's click and it just and

(01:07:59):
it just poor practice. It's just like, you know, the
multiverse is thing we've beat to the to to the ground,
Obviously talking about it, but you know, sticks the other day.
Show me a list of, you know, data mine characters that I
already was aware of. You know, Neo scorpion, sub 0
Legolas, Gandalf. You mean to tell me that shit's
not going to be successful? That's fucked up.
That shit is left on the tape. All those characters, Poison

(01:08:19):
Ivy, Robin what Bro? I would have loved to see the
hi-fi rush two man. Me too.
It's like, yo. And that could have been Co-op.
Oh my God. Easy.
Hi-fi rush two could. Have easily they could have made
a Co-op. Possibly happening because of
people actually doing something good.
But they they. Hired them back.
The thing is, is that like thesethings are the positive things.
Like these things have such an impact on a lot of people that

(01:08:42):
some want to do it themselves. You know, like, right, there's
rumors, you know, not really rumors, but someone's trying to
start up a multi versus infinite.
So like they're trying to do research, they're trying to keep
it alive ad things that people want.
They have things with smash brothers that looks like a 16
bit game with mad characters in it that's online that you could
play. So like there's good, there's
people out there like Nah, we we're going to do this shit the

(01:09:03):
right way and that's great. That's great, but it's like, but
it's just fucking shitty. The opportunity was.
There, it's just shitty. Yeah, it's a transformation of
the industry that had just. I don't agree with the ugly
part. Hate it?
And and to some. People love it.
Some. People love it.
And just to say like, we get we got it.

(01:09:23):
We do have to remember that Marvels Avengers was released
during the pandemic, yeah, and they couldn't get into a studio
together. They got fucked over by that a
lot. Yeah, they really they got.
They get shafted by that but. What I'm not, Sir, No.
But online during the pandemic? Animal Crossing?
Come on. What's happening?
What's? Happening.
They rocking with that instead, they rock with that.
They want peace, but we want to hit somebody.

(01:09:46):
They couldn't get The Avengers together online during the
pandemic. What did they do wrong?
Yeah, come on. I don't understand, man.
It's what the hell? It's disappointing, it's
upsetting, and all those fuckingtrends just need to stop, man.
It's fucking, it's ruining gaming in my opinion.
It's ruining it. Yeah, of course.
Who's got the next? One I got.
Another one if you don't. Yeah, I can talk about it.

(01:10:08):
DLC. In general.
In general. Like you don't like buying horse
armor you don't like? Buying horse.
Armor. That was the first one to do.
No, you don't. Like buying horse armor.
Like that was the black guy whennot black guy.
I'll say like black guy. Which black guy?
Not like for no for example likeTekken 8 they released DLC but

(01:10:32):
it was just the characters and not the stages and it's like
that's. Because people can't read.
That's that's also possible. Just said not stages, they're
not included but people got. But dude like yo, we dropped 70
for the game and we dropped an additional however much for the
DLC. Just a good job.
Give me a God damn stage. Not seriously, it should be
stage music. After after this I'm picking

(01:10:54):
piggybacking off of what mass produced just put in there.
Definitely. Oh, you.
Know I'm piggybacking off. Oh.
I'm piggybacking. Thanks for that comment.
Yeah. And character packs like just.
I don't want to wait so long between character.
Packs. Well, that's that's a murky,

(01:11:17):
that's the murky area. So it's like with every fighting
games, like how many is supposedto be available upon release,
right? How many is acceptable and how
many is acceptable in a pack? I think if you release at least
30 to begin with base game that's up there. 30. 30 I'm
going to have yeah, I'm saying these games have 90 characters
and yes, but. But no, no, to start, I was

(01:11:39):
going to say 30 characters on release is more than enough.
Yeah, I feel like 20 should be standard, but 30 that I that's
almost a lot. And you need to mean, but they
need to. But complaint wise, yeah, if
people are complaining if you have 30. 30 you know it's been.
Character, but I would be OK with 20 if like or even less

(01:12:00):
than that if they had a road map, a road map to show like,
you know, hey, we're going to release this or this to, you
know, so you see what's happening, but are people going
to be paying for that? It's live service.
It's basically live service. Pretty much, you know what I'm
saying? Are fighting.
Are we talking about like just arelease?
Because you're paying, Because live service, you're always
paying. Yeah, but like, if you're.
Let's talk about Street Fighter,Right, Street Fighter, Right.

(01:12:20):
Let's say Street Fighter Seven. Obviously we don't need one, but
Street Fighter 7, how many 30 characters?
OK to start with. Hell yeah.
OK, so how many people gonna be like, where's this character,
right, Where's this character? So you're gonna have to release
pack. So how many per pack is
acceptable and what's the price that's acceptable and what does
that come with? Basically, you're done it by
quarter 11. Character, one stage, different
music at least, Yeah, each quarter.

(01:12:42):
So it won't be a pack, it'll just be a character that.
Comes to sucks and stuff in the in the.
Stages music, yeah. But that's one, that's the
gaming and that's fighting game industry right now, Yeah.
And that's the only way they cankeep going.
But they're not qualified. They don't say that they're live
service, which is funny. But the technical, you know,
yeah, it's, well, The thing is Smash Brothers fucked up a lot
of things. Yeah, it fucked up a lot of
things because it gave everybody, everyone for free

(01:13:05):
after that they wanted. And then?
No, you had. The yeah.
And then you have to pay and then after that was done, No, we
want more yeah. And that hurt multiverses
because live service, you're a slave to the public.
You will never stop working and and 100 won't be enough.

(01:13:25):
Why isn't this person in there? Why isn't this?
You are a slave to the public who is not happy.
They're never happy. They're never satisfied.
And that's the one fucked up thing about Smash Bros.
I was like, Oh yeah, I want Rio Hayabusa but I got like 8 dudes
I fucking use and it plays awesome.
I have fun. They said they said no.
Fuck Sakurai, they were pissed. Fuck.
Sakurai, the dude who brought you this fucking game, you said

(01:13:48):
fuck him because he didn't put your little stupid character
from Kirby. Go fuck yourself.
Like that's what the public has turned into is because they are
they, they don't appreciate the shit that they're given.
So you're going by community is?Community has become the
community has become toxic. And then the the and then yeah,
entitled. And they're like, oh, you're

(01:14:09):
going to pay it. All right, well, for you want
it, you're going to have to pay for it.
And that's that's the fucked up thing that's happening.
You're going to pay for it because you're going to give me
death threats because that's what we're that's what we're
doing. That's the path that we're down
is death threats. Yeah, people are getting death
threats because a fucking character's not in the game.
Fucking crazy. No, I mean, and that's not even
just fighting games, like just storyline like Last of Us.

(01:14:31):
Last of Us Two Yeah, every media, any, any entertainment
thing possible. If something is not my way, I'm
going to send you a death threat.
That's that's what we're dealingwith now.
That's got keyboard warriors, ball list keyboard warriors.
Army of the Sexless is what theydo, but I want to get to what a
mass produce said. Go for it, gripes.
The award shows. That's a good one.

(01:14:51):
That's a good one, I know. We're going to get into it, but
I wanted to just one last thing.How much how much money have you
spent on Street Fighter Six so far?
So far I bought the total. I bought season 2, season 1 and
2. I'm up to like 140.
Yeah, I'm probably, I'm probablythere too.
And not for nothing, Street Fighter Street Fighter 6 did it
too. No, you have to buy your stages

(01:15:13):
too. No, Yeah, yeah.
So I bought. The game for $30.00 on sale so
that means I'm gonna have to fucking so it's less so it's
like. Well, no, I mean if.
You're turning it. It's a sneaky live service.
It's a sneaky live. Service, then we roll.
Get grinded for years and maybe you can get that stage.
Yeah, I mean, you can, you can, you can earn the stages through,

(01:15:34):
I forgot how, but yeah, because I didn't pay.
I didn't pay outright for the two stages that I bought.
But they'll always have exclusives that you can't get
unless you buy it and you get itat that time or play online at
that time. That Halloween costume ain't
getting again. Yeah, not chill.
But yeah, I went to the award. Yeah, the, the award shows, fuck
those shows. Like I, I, you know how mad I
get with the categories, man? Like, like it's it's categories.

(01:15:57):
I love the presentations, the categories.
I love the trailers, the new games that they show.
I have no problems with any of that.
I like spotlight, it shows on certain.
Categories, yeah, that's fine and that does very well, but I
think the categories and the same thing goes for any award
show you watch, period. It's rigged and it's nonsense.
It's. It's how small they make the
industry just by the choice theydo.

(01:16:18):
It's basically five games every.Game to six games, but.
They're going to do that. Why?
For everything right? And there's no spotlight on the
Indies that they pick one indie.They'll pick five.
That's five. They'll name 5 out of the. 1000
but not but yeah thousands that came out and it's like it's so
like the action category or the fighting game category or like

(01:16:39):
you'll see a random game that's like why is this here category
because why is Pikmin 4A strategy game strategy RPG they
they pad. RTS.
RTS. The thing is that they have bad
categories and they pad those categories with games that don't
fucking fit because they just pad them with them.
Like what the hell? Why do you have a it's like, no,

(01:16:59):
no racing category. No, I would do the I would love
to do the indie award show, but we don't have the money or the
resources to do such a thing or the time to play all these
games. But, and they bank on that.
They're like, great. So we'll just throw some
bullshit out there. But it's like, dude, what the
fuck are we doing these award shows?
I applaud that they made it somewhat like the Grammys are so

(01:17:20):
like, like something that actually look forward to, like,
this is what it is. But obviously there's more game
awards. We should pay attention to more
game awards than just that show.Yeah.
Because that's where these gamesget shot.
Yeah, It turns my one game didn't get that award, but it
got 200 and. Everywhere else it almost turns
into who spent the most money ontheir game.

(01:17:40):
Oh yeah, you know how much you know it has to be AAA, right?
AAA has to win game of the year.The trailers though, I mean the.
Trailer. It's a trailer show, yeah.
It's a trailer show. Yeah, I love the trailer.
I like it's. A trailer park show?
No, I'm sorry, sorry. Listen.
That's that's is bad because obviously everybody's going to
have their favorite game and if that favorite game doesn't get

(01:18:02):
mentioned or anything, you're going to get pissed.
That's the thing about award shows.
But fraternal yeah, it said you got robbed.
It takes 2. It takes 2.
That's deserve we. Got it does.
Deserve, but it's a great game. If you didn't play it or
whatever, you might not believe that, but that's how that's how
award shows go. But the fact that that was
against return, it was kind of weird.
Yeah, I mean, Horizon got snubbed twice.

(01:18:22):
Horizon gets. Killed.
Have have someone from that teamon the podcast they'll be
granting the entire fucking time.
Fuck yo Zelda eternal like fucking elder ring like those
things always steal the. Lego Horizon Why Zelda come out
with a Lego? Y'all not getting nothing they
they never eaten like they get They haven't won any awards.

(01:18:43):
I don't. Think because they release the
same year as either as the game or a God of War game.
Actually, that last Zelda did probably take over the Legos.
Wow, they got nominated? Too.
It's it's it's the award show tome.
I'm just like, I just show us some cool trailers because these
categories are stupid and I likeand enough of the E sports.
All right, I know, I I know. I know people.

(01:19:04):
Yeah, that should be its own. It should be its own award show.
It should be a separate show. It should be its own award.
No, I I guarantee you no one gives a fuck.
Yeah, about coach of the Year, team of the year game, but no
one cares. And ongoing game of the year,
there's we go each category, butnot.
But ongoing game of the year canbe the same game every year,
right? It could be Fortnite, Fortnite,
Fortnite for the last 10 years could be for fighting game of

(01:19:25):
the year, though they will nevername Street Fighter or Tekken
any any again. But they're live service games
and they're continuing. Why not?
Why not? They're living, yeah.
I mean they had they had up whatwas it the game with the update?
No the the the DLC DLC got a freaking was on the elder ring.

(01:19:47):
DLC was nominated for game of the year.
Who the fuck is doing this? Seriously.
Which deserve, but it is in a. Different.
No. It deserves praise, but game of
the year it won a year ago. There's a problem enough problem
with the categories. They should have DLC categories.
Yes, dude, that's thank you. Yeah, thank you.
Why not? Should I have a race and remakes
need to be in? A race category.

(01:20:08):
Racing game category remakes need to be in their own.
A remake category can have resident before remake.
We've seen resident even before.Before, honestly, racing games.
Racing is a sport. Technically, yeah, but they.
Should see how they Yeah, but there's arcade racers.
How come they don't have? They don't have any of them.
The problem is they'll name 1 racing game Slipstream Soccer.
Slipstream is a dope. Slipstream is a dope in the

(01:20:32):
racing game. Right?
I was expecting that shit to be at least nominated at the.
Game that like it didn't come. Out.
That shit was not even mentionedat all.
Wasn't even mentioned at all. That's the problem.
They they need to redo categories, redo the categories,
categories. Look, I like, I like the live
aspect of it. Like, you know, me personally, I
like watching live shows because, you know, you see

(01:20:54):
people fuck up and that's what Ilike watching.
I like watching, you know? The thing is, what's what's
giving them money? That's the thing.
That's yeah. The fact that there's a
spotlight on games, that's great.
The trailers is giving them money.
They don't care yeah. That's they hope if they have
more categories it's going to pop up online.
Yeah, day one that's. It the world premieres and all
that, that's awesome. I like that.
It should be more permission. But the categories?

(01:21:14):
On G4. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
There you go. I got another Microsoft and the
red ring of death. What the mistake that was?
That was their biggest mistake ever in history, because
possibly electronics mistake $3 billion.
I mean the Zune, they didn't make this.

(01:21:35):
What was his? Name Steve Bauer, I think.
Steve Ballmer. Cheer for me that.
Guy and he fucked up. He fucked up his name, he said.
I think it was a $3 billion mistake.
Could you imagine the guy that the engineer that had to go to
him and tell him that that the freaking red ring was happening?
Yeah, yes, he has cement feet inthe ocean.
And the first thing he said was how much was how much is it
going to cost? And he said, well, Sir, how much

(01:21:56):
do it, do it, 3 billion. He's like, do it now.
And they won. They almost won that.
Yeah, they turned. They turned the whole company
around, man. Because everybody had to get 6
systems, yeah. Yeah, I think I went.
How long? Did you get I went through two,
I think, I think 2:00. I went through three.
I was on 6. I sold mine before it got the
red ring. Am I currently what I have?

(01:22:18):
I knew it was happening. The one I have in my closet is
currently in the process of red ring so I don't even turn it.
Off better get rid of it. It's about to turn into a
fucking Droid. Fucking kill you.
Yeah, it's going. To come a lot, yeah, Where it's
going to grow legs like the PS5.I mean, it looks like it has a
fan built into it, yeah. Frankenstein, it's just going to

(01:22:38):
start killing people. But I mean I understand how that
even happened. Like how did every system fail?
You didn't test it for how long like they do test I think.
Well, they they. Under watching something like
what happened? They did rush it to market to
beat the the PS. What was it?
The PS3? 3.
That was they rushed it. They rushed it to market to

(01:22:59):
release before PS3. And that helped with this.
And because they had to get thisshit out to get, you know, to
make waves. They got more people's houses,
yeah, but they didn't make. More money, but they should have
taken their time and ironed out the ironed out the fucking, you
know, the technical mistakes. Yeah, I only know like, like
maybe two people who have their original Xbox 360 from day one.

(01:23:21):
That's crazy. And it still works.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, wow.
Yeah, I remember. I remember my, my, my 360 was
like the, the tray, the CD tray was like getting stuck.
And I was like, damn, I felt like I just felt like it was
about to go any day. Even though it worked, it worked
fine. And I remember selling it to
somebody and I had him try it out and in my head while he was

(01:23:43):
trying it out, I was like, please work, please work, please
work, Please wait. And it worked.
And I was like, oh, thank God. They did handle it the correct
way. Yeah, yeah.
They had free returns for next no questions, whatever, no
questions asked. So they did handle it well, but
it was it was a bad mistake. For real.
Bad, bad, bad one all. Right.
What else? I got I have the outrage from

(01:24:06):
the community sometimes leveled at a game when they don't like
the protagonist, you know, like is that a.
Company thing. Though no, it's a it's a no, a
community, it's. A It's a community.
It's a community thing. Like, you know when you have,
you know, when, what was it? Star Wars Outlaws came out.
They didn't like the fact that was a female chick.

(01:24:28):
They wanted to be somebody like a Han Solo, like a male dude.
Didn't they do that for the new ghost of Shima?
Ghost of Yo Yota is it? Yeah, they did for that.
Yeah. Ghost of Yote.
They were like. Assassin's Creed Shadows, yes.
Well, that's just the form of protest.
It's not, It's annoying. Yeah, but I only.
The fact that they think they have power and they want.
To use it, yeah. I just don't like to hate the

(01:24:50):
hate at the doves because it's, yeah, it's the community when
they throw hate at the doves forthose decisions.
The people who complain on making money, that's the
problem. They can make money on Twitch or
X and whatever by complaining and they don't care about what
they're complaining about. And you mentioned it when when
they released DMC the the Dante redesign, I was one of them

(01:25:12):
people. I was like, this ain't Dante.
Like, what are we doing here? But then I played the game.
I was like, oh this should. Fire.
Well, that that Dante's a littlebit different because I don't
think his design looked that great in DMC.
You know, I think he ought to be.
One of them you're. Part of the.
Problem I'll I'll critique can'ttalk now.
Now listen, I'll critique like you know from Zelda to Zelda.

(01:25:33):
I'll critique links design from y'all.
I was like, OK was he had a better outfit than that one, he
had a cooler design. This one, that's a different
story, you know? But you don't go on on forums
being a yeah, I didn't say spreading hate.
Everything 00 echoes of Wisdom stars just Zelda.
No, I can't know. Every Zelda needs the star link.
I'm not touching it. I was like, no, I I was like,

(01:25:54):
all right. I was intrigued that remember.
What we said about the Battletoads, I'm like, I'm not
crazy about their designs. I'm like, they kind of look
weird. I'm like, wait.
That was a design thing. Yeah, I was like, I don't know
about that. And then we played.
I was like, this game's fucking amazing.
Yeah, the problem is a lot of people don't play it and they
still want to complain. Yeah, because people want what
they want when they want it. And if they don't get it,
because you can get get anythingyou want nowadays with just your

(01:26:16):
phone in two seconds. If you don't get it, I'm going
to give someone a death threat. Yeah, and I'll extend it too,
also because I was going to go into death threats so.
I'm going to go to the next thing.
Cafe Cafe Fox mentioned death threats also.
That's messed up too. Like we don't like some of the
games. Like you should not give a death
threat to a dev under any circumstances.
Like they shouldn't. Like they would.
Do it? You know how to do it?

(01:26:36):
Because they get a reaction, Yep.
But it's not. That's the reason.
That's the reason. No, but then you're going to get
some persons like no, I really want to do.
It's like what I'm. Saying they don't think of that,
they think of the reaction. Not the person who?
Says it, but the person who doesit, yeah, the person who says it
might be different than the person who actually tries to do
it. But it's like it's, it might
incite somebody. And if it happens, they'll be
like, oops, yeah, they move along.

(01:26:58):
They're not going. To there's the today's gamer is
spoiled. They're extremely spoiled and
ungrate and they're ungrateful, extremely ungrateful.
And so if they that they're in yeah.
And and if you, if they don't get something, a character, a
stage, a game is delayed, something, if they don't get
what they want, when they want it, they are enraged and they

(01:27:20):
want to go after the wrong person.
That's what they do. They go after the wrong person.
They don't know how to be patient.
They don't know how to wait, they don't know how to
appreciate. And that's unfortunate, because
the devs, more more than any time in history, have been
attacked online all the time. Yeah.
Like the shit that was sent to to Tony Wynn, who was like the

(01:27:40):
nicest fucking guy in the world who we had on the podcast.
Passionate dude worked on multiple games.
Oh, it's his fault. He's arrogant.
He's this. And everyone on the team is
like, what do you talk? Who's making this shit up?
Who is making up things that arenot even true because you're not
getting what you want? Trust me, I'm mad that the
game's gone too, but I know it has to do with Warner.
And they say it to get people riled up.
Oh, I got 1. That's why I don't care about

(01:28:01):
them. Big, I'm talking about the big,
the big companies like Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, especially
Nintendo stopping the the tournaments, like the the trying
to protect their IP basically, and stopping to stop playing.
Yeah, it's like a harmless thing.
I mean people are celebrating your freaking product.

(01:28:21):
You do have bows that though I can understand sometimes.
That wow. Well, I mean.
Well, the thing. The thing is that the Smash.
Community you got to be careful with.
I know exactly why they did it and that's why I wasn't so
angry. About it because I understand.
Because the Smash community, I mean, there's some, there's some
like cool people who know how toplay the game and are
competitive and stuff, but there's some really disturbed

(01:28:43):
individuals that are good at thegame.
Creeps, like really? You know, words I can't say on
the podcast without getting censored and whatever, but
they're fucking disturbing individuals.
And some of them stink. And, and some, some of them,
some talk about like 80% of the motherfuckers, but like Nintendo
does not want it because a lot of these people have like
channels and they don't want to be attached to these people.

(01:29:04):
I can understand why they want to disassociate themselves with
certain aspects of it, but just say Nintendo doesn't like PDFs
but there is a fandom, think about it.
And to cut the fandom completelyand not allow them, like, what
does it hurt to have a A tournament?
As long as you don't associate Nintendo and they don't have no
presence. My money did not go to that.

(01:29:25):
Whatever. They could do what they want.
That's in like, you held a tournament in your basement.
No, no, no. Right.
Nintendo says no, right? Stop that.
But yeah, if you want to associate these big companies in
your marketing, then I could say, OK, if they don't want to
be a part of it, that's their decision.
But yeah, the fact that they have shut down huge things that
were already established right is kind of crazy.

(01:29:47):
Nintendo's overprotectiveness oftheir own IP?
Yeah, goes a little too far, so.Like we don't want fan games.
We don't want any fan game happening.
No PDF, no PDFs attached. To my.
To these tournaments. You know, I saw, I saw something
about Nintendo on YouTube, but somebody was talking about
Nintendo tried to sue Blockbuster for having their

(01:30:08):
games in there. Yeah, well, it was a real
lawsuit, Yeah. In Japan there was no rentals
though, so I can understand if they're coming from there.
They're like you're costing a sales, stop giving our game out
for a little. We're gonna bring it out
digitally and rent it. But they lost.
They lost, they lost. I like it when Nintendo loses
like that. It's like 2 times.
I was like what the hell? Yeah, they only.
Lost. Yeah, they only lost.

(01:30:29):
They don't lose a lot, but when they lose, I'm like they just.
Got money? That's good.
A lot of money wins. A lot of lawsuits get thrown out
and because of the person who complaints disappears somehow.
I don't know what happens, but they disappear.
Nintendo ninjas. Yeah, something.
Happens I. Don't know.
I mean, overall, the video game crash of 80 Threes, obviously
we're gonna have to say something about it because that
was an industry mistake of producing too much.

(01:30:50):
And it's almost like people havesaid, Oh yeah, it's happening
with all the trash that's being bought out indie wise because,
you know, we see the good stuff.No, we're a.
Lot of bad you. Have to sit through though you
got. Lots.
You. Got lots you got to go through.
There and they're saying, oh, it's going to cause another
video game crash or the expensive games can cause a
video game crash because now you're seeing 300 million, $400

(01:31:12):
million games shut down companies, one bad decision or
one person online saying I don'twant to buy that.
And then your game is killed before it comes out.
Concord. I mean, regardless of what it
was, no one gave it a chance. It was dead before it came out
because people said I don't wantto play guardians of the guys,
which is weird. It's just weird.

(01:31:34):
It's not like that's the worst game you ever seen in your life
and those games came out and they're still around the bottom.
I don't get. It I was going to say also, can
these video game companies, can they regulate the damn shops
'cause like they're, they're, they're digital shops.
Like you see games that you're like, what the hell?
Like Nintendo, for example. Nintendo and.
The Nintendo and the E shop you're seeing like.

(01:31:57):
Now with the releases, there's too many.
Joe, they don't. I feel like it's they don't
regulate that. I feel like it's just Nintendo
though. No, there's no I've seen, I've
seen. PlayStation.
Yeah, the the front. Page I'm not even talking about
the Steam is another. Talk.
You mean biased? That's even worse biased.
What do you mean biased against Nintendo?
Well, when you see like. No, the store is the worst
though. The store is the worst.
The front page and it's supposedto be like a family system.

(01:32:19):
I mean it's kept like let me derive.
You, you, you try being a platform that's getting that
many games to release a week. No, no one gets Well, alright,
she gets that many games. Teams gets the most games out of
all the out of all the companiesand they they also have a
problem too, the. Problem is quality control.
I gotta see the paperwork. The problem is quality control
and there's too many games beingreleased every week.
Yes, over 8000 a week? No, it's too.

(01:32:40):
There's no way you can go through them and see what that
is good exactly give. Up it's too much.
It's too much game. It's.
But they should be a system. They need AI or something.
That'll bring up the good stuff,yes.
Like that should rise. That should be the cream.
Of the crop a cream of the crop that should.
Rise on the rating system. For the most part, it it's not
on the top, you know, you don't see it like advertising on the

(01:33:02):
Oh no. Matter what, it is a little.
Too, but it's scattered in there.
How many graphic novels or or digital novels do I need for
$70.00 on the switch? None.
Like imagine Turbo, imagine yourdaughter going through the E
shop and then seeing some like yeah dude.
Like seriously, Like even even with the parental controls it'll

(01:33:23):
still show up. Still show Yeah the.
Game will still show up like yougotta explain that to your
daughter. Like what?
The hell, It's like, don't worryabout that.
Don't. Worry about that.
Don't worry about that's a bad game.
Choose some. Insane for you.
That's why I said I was like, don't worry about that.
Not for. You.
It's just, it's human. It's all.
It's like it's a dildo in a, so you're like.
Don't worry about that. It's not for you.
Don't worry about that. It's a sword.

(01:33:45):
It's a sword. Go play Mario.
Go. Play.
Mario Bro Wow, terrible. Terrible.
All right, so going off, I mean,we didn't really talk about the
crash, but but that's part of it.
It's the crash of all this, the nonsense coming out at the same
time. That's what caused it.
And we're maybe on the process of getting something like that
again. But the fact that there is an
indie revolution going on and those games do come out and they

(01:34:07):
don't cost that much. Yeah.
Accord, you know, compared to AAA games, yeah.
I think we're in a good space atleast there.
But, yeah, with live service, there is a chance that
everything can go right to that.And then the game industry is
completely different, and it's going to die that way.
Yeah. And you won't be able to play
any of those games. The Great Reset the.

(01:34:28):
Great. Yeah.
It'll be the reset button. But one of the games that was a
big proprietor to that was ET. That's another mistake.
It's a classic. A classic mistake.
Talk about no regulation. It's probably probably top top
five all time. No quality control at all.
That's probably #1 mistake of video game.

(01:34:49):
I'll talk about top five video game.
Didn't they make that game in like a week or something?
Top five game. In your list, on your list, on
everyone's list, everyone's list, I'm.
Pretty sure it made the number one list at some point.
Didn't they make that game in like a week or a month or?
Something six weeks. Six weeks.
Six weeks 6. Weeks.
No chance, no time. That that not done.
That's a lot. That's a lot of time.

(01:35:09):
It was gonna be like 3 days. It was a rush to release because
they had the license to ET and got a money grab.
They had to release it before the holiday season.
So that's set the precedent of unfinished games.
But that same guy made like amazing, like he's a good
programmer. He made yards revenge.
He made freaking like five othergames like this one in a week.
But not, yeah, not in six weeks.This wasn't by fault.

(01:35:33):
Can't pull up a miracle like that.
Yeah, man, ETA game. I don't know how that's going to
be entertaining. They made Alf.
Fuck Alf. They just gave him money.
Alf is great. Alf is great.
That's a bad you can you can single that out is what caused
the crash and all the fake Pac-Man and all.
That Oh yeah, there was nowhere they.
Still made all the same game. Pong.
Yeah, many free Pong systems. And you know what's crazy about,

(01:35:55):
like, releasing so many games? We've been having this channel
for what, how many years now, right?
And we've always, we've been talking about what do we always
talk about? The backlog, right?
Yeah. There are games in the backlog
that we will never play for our lives.
Like there are games, multiple games that we will never play as
long as we're here. And that's fucking crazy.
That's a crazy fellow that, thatis crazy.

(01:36:17):
It's crazy like the, the amount of games that we will finish
before our, the end of our livescompared to the amount of games
that we will never touch the, the, the, the pile.
I mean, you, it's fucking crazy.Even if you played 5 minutes of
each of those games, you still won't finish and you're not
gonna finish. I just told it finished.
Having a job thing is for the birds.

(01:36:38):
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, true.
We've been playing games for thelongest time and I bet you we
cracked the 2% to 1% of games released out of.
Everything yo. I remember there was a year it
was like a Christmas and there was Metal Gear 1 and Jackal.
For the year. Yeah, and we were good.
We were good. Plus the ones that we had
already that we've beaten, we can always go back to even the

(01:37:00):
bad games. Yeah, Jackal and Metal Gear one
were like, now we're good. Plus you went outside.
Yeah, and then we actually like,you know.
You may have had a bike. Bike touch grass.
Played a sport. I touch grass.
I touch grass. And now?
Now just in. It's too much.
Just in my switch alone. Like.
They give you free games. That's like they give you free

(01:37:23):
game. Well, here goes a free game.
No, I don't. Want one?
Free game. It's just sitting there like.
I don't want one. Let alone what you buy.
You're getting games per week, Freebase it's.
Fucking insane. It's nuts, man.
Like if you join the what you call store the epic store
online. Oh fuck.
I got like 80 games I. Don't even join that shit 'cause
I'm like what am I gonna do withthis shit?

(01:37:44):
The Epic Store. But it's death stranded.
I never turned that game on, butI gave you that like two years
ago. You're.
Just wasting hard drive space. Like if someone offers me
something for free, I would probably most not unless it's
something I really want to play,like a seafood or something.
But it's like if you offer me a game that I have no intentions
of playing, like a Destiny or whatever, I'm going to say keep

(01:38:06):
the game because what the fuck is it going to do in my house?
I'm not going to play it. They would give me physical disc
of Destiny 2 for. Free.
Yeah, what am. I bought spider man but here no
I bought another game is that? Just take it it's.
Like, no, I already have it. No, no, no, you have another
one. No, in the warehouse.
It's like boxes on boxes. They should have done that for

(01:38:26):
Anthem. Yeah, yeah.
Like, yeah. They would have damn it was like
a. Dollar it's like.
You need to understand Concord to play this game.
I'm not going to touch it. And they couldn't give away
Concorde, they said. You guys return.
Them that's crazy they. Couldn't even give that.
Away. That's fucking crazy.
Dude. They should've gave him with a
purchase. Who has Who has a copy of that
shit? Somebody has.
Some people I doubt it's going to be worth much, but if it was,

(01:38:47):
whatever. I'm sure it is because it's hard
to get now. You got a copy, can't play it
though. You can't play it, but I'm
saying just to have that copy. I could print out the paper.
It's all it's worth that you. Scammer put that shit on eBay.
Fake got. Another one.
Keep going if you want to. Metal Gear 5 not being finished,

(01:39:08):
that's a bad, terrible thing forthe industry.
Mass produces Metal Gear Solid two.
It was a mistake because you play the naked guy.
Wow, you play as a naked guy. The bait and switch, man.
The bait and switch, Well, the bait and switch was actually.
A problem. That that's a that's a pretty
even though I'm more of a ridingfan than I am a snake fan.
But for people who if I was playing.

(01:39:29):
To trick people as. That's like, dude, where my dude
go, right? I'd be pretty fucking pissed
off. I didn't mind, but I know I can
understand why. Or at least give an option, you
know? I'm saying that's pretty much.
When you show a deceptive trailer to your game, yeah,
yeah, Expecting people to buy your game and then they play it
and it flips. Well, it starts off normal.
It starts off. That's what I'm saying.

(01:39:49):
It starts off normal and you're like, OK, yeah, this is they
gave. A demo.
They gave a demo where you play as the character you want.
There was no hint that the character was going to change.
So you play that demo. It's like I can't wait for day
one, Yeah. And then you get to the part
where you're at and you're not your character ever again.
It. Was not handled.
I wasn't bothered by it, me personally, but I can understand
why people were upset. I was.

(01:40:10):
I can understand why. Yeah, I was bothered when in
Halo 2 and you had to play as the Arbiter, which wasn't
Arbiter. That made me stop playing Jesus.
So then it's not, it's not even that, it's not even that you had
to play as the Arbiter. It's that you didn't finish the
game as Master Chief. Wow.
I'm pretty sure the last stage you you, you finished the game.

(01:40:32):
That's Arvidown. I'm just like.
The bait that's wow, yeah, that's the bait and switch
that's not. Cool.
I was like, Sir. They did bait and switch and
other stuff, but I don't wanna get into it cuz I don't wanna do
spoilers. But yeah, there's certain games
that people know that they've done bait and switch and they're
pretty bad still to this day. Yeah, sometimes it's not a bad
mistake. Depends on how you take the
story, right? But yeah, we're not gonna get
into that. And chat.
I know you already spoiled it, but Cyberpunk was a mistake.

(01:40:58):
Cyberpunk. Oh, that CD project Red was.
But that's more of a not. Finished.
That's unfinished. That's more of an unfinished
game discussion. Also.
But they did fix it. Later.
Yeah, a lot of games did. Fix a lot of games.
But now when you say cyrapunk, everyone's like, oh, that sucks.
It will be, that's what. They did.
No, they came around. No, I'm saying.
But like, oh, no, because of that, it's like days gone, right

(01:41:18):
in the beginning, Yeah. Oh, the game sucked.
No, it just wasn't ready. Overall, there's a stinking ball
with the name because of what happened, yeah, but if you stuck
with it and you are actual fan of it, you're fine.
That's like. You're fine.
Now I'll say more. The No Man's Sky.
No Man's Sky came around. They did a 180 the big the
craziest 180 ever. Love that shit.
Yo they promised so much shit. Like they lied basically at E3

(01:41:38):
they lied and said Oh yeah this Co-op yeah this is nothing.
Yeah and then when they get released none of that shit
happened. Fucking lied.
Lied straight up. That was fable and they didn't
do it. Almost.
Well, they almost killed the whole thing, but then they they
literally. Dude they worked for.
Listen to everybody. Understand how?
But they worked for free for 10 years, right?
I don't know how I. I want to see.
I would love for someone to tellme how that's possible.

(01:42:01):
Yeah, I don't understand. Wow.
Shipping a Fallout special edition in a trash bag, I mean.
Yeah, was that is that I mean. Yeah.
Yeah, I forgot which one it was.It was.
It was. 76. Fallout 76.
In a trash bag. Yeah, they shipped double bag,
trash bag. Because the post apocalyptic.
So like a plastic trash bag? Yeah.
Well, it was not the the thing that people were supposed to

(01:42:23):
get, yes. Because it's a post apocalyptic
world or whatever afternoon. Singer, put your shed in the
garbage. All right, That was I guess I'm
thinking the boardroom. They're like, oh, this is a
great idea. We're going to get away with
this. That's like you motherfuckers.
They had high. Intentions.
They were going to give you thisduffel bag, expensive and

(01:42:43):
everything. Then the game came out, it's
still nothing and he said we can't afford this bag, we have
to throw this in. The.
Truck. Let's give them the Yeah, bro.
Yeah, that was a mistake. Like not not given what you paid
for is a mistake. Yeah, putting a code in the
fucking physical box. That mistake?

(01:43:04):
That's a big mistake you. Want this plastic box?
For a collector like I'm just buying a fucking case, that's
it. But what's funny is you don't
own it even if you bought it physical.
There's a couple of Switch games, couple of games in
general that's true and have a code in the box and you don't
officially own that game when you bought the official box.
What the what's the purpose of the box?
What are you going to get? For that I I despise that just

(01:43:27):
fuck so much. It almost is like you're
eliminated, even though obviously you know, you're
playing the game, but it almost,it feels like you don't have the
game. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
It does, you know, like it's you.
You you buy the game, you get the art, you got the box art.
You open it up, you stick it in instruction manual, which I
miss, and you got the thing, either the CD or the cartridge.

(01:43:50):
You throw it in and that's yours.
That's yours forever. Yeah.
I mean till this round, till, till, whatever.
Happens to the system or the whatever you have it.
But like it makes me think of TMNT out of the shadows, right?
That was a fun experience. That was dope, but I don't I
don't feel like I don't own it. It's always a worry.
I, I don't, I don't feel like I own that.
Because I always wonder that I have a ton of games.

(01:44:12):
I remember a. Ton of games, digital and on
Steam, yeah. You're like, oh, I I mean,
everyone loves Steam. They're like those Steam's going
to be here forever. What if there was a day where
you wake up? Gone.
Earthquake. Earthquake took out the the
whole. Steam servers.
Wiped. Everything's gone.
You're like, yo, Steam is gone. Yeah, everything you have is
done. I'm sure people will get
steamed. Yes, I'll give you that.

(01:44:34):
Listen, I'll give you that one. That was good.
Not everyone will. You already said.
You already said you liked it. Not everyone, but.
Thank you. But if you did have your Steam
library crash, the world would be a different place.
About digital. Yeah, Adams, it's ridiculous.
Yeah. Yeah.
But I had like 400 games on my PlayStation digital.
Gone. What happens?

(01:44:54):
I can't sign in So you have 0? If you can't sign in one day,
those games are gone because youneed to validate.
Zero. I remember getting Bayonetta one
and two for the switch. The physical copy.
I have that. That should only had Bayonetta.
What was it Bayonetta one on theOR?
I'm sorry, Bayonetta 2 was on the cartridge and I had a
fucking download code for Bayonetta one.

(01:45:15):
I'm like Yep I bought the cut for both games and then and then
obviously they made good on it because years later they finally
did release 1 separately. The PlayStation, yeah, you got
for the Switch, Yeah, you. Motherfucker, yeah, overseas,
but still Marvel versus Capcom fighting collection Digital.
It was digital overseas. In a box.

(01:45:36):
That's. Great in a box.
You got a digi. Box, don't even insult me.
That's. With the.
Box. Don't insult me with the box,
but you. Get the comic.
Who the hell cares? A.
Mini comic, yeah, that's crazy. But yeah, if you lost that stuff
though, it's crazy because you don't own it.
If you have, I understand you want physical because it's
there, you can play it. The space it takes is another

(01:45:57):
story, but. I love it with.
Yeah, that's the problem though.When you can lose all that,
that's why they need to figure out how you can have ownership
of your digital stuff that then another world Steam drops.
You can download it somewhere else, play somewhere.
Else so do it with the blockchain.
Let me stop now. I don't know something, I don't
know how they. Something in the future needs to
figure that out. I don't know how.
They're going to solve it. Who's got another one?

(01:46:21):
There's one, one last one. Speaking of online, then
Microsoft's Microsoft Xbox One with the DRM of always on.
Oh. God.
Always online. I remember that they got rid of
that right? Like.
Soon right away, you know it wasa big mistake because they lost.
Well listen, after the 360 when they were highly successful and

(01:46:41):
popular, spoken about with praise.
Then the one came out, they got happy and he said, yo, watch
this. Y'all we're about to do, about
to change the industry, right? They gonna have to sign it.
Yeah, they got to be online. We're gonna monetize everyone.
And we'll own them. Constantly.
And we're gonna charge them by the month, forever.

(01:47:01):
And we're gonna make deals with the NSA to watch you and.
They still. Want to through the connect?
No, they do they. No, they still want to do it.
Yeah. And they have gotten back to
that, Yeah, over time, at the time when they announced this.
Oh shit, I'm deleting the Xbox app on my phone.
Yeah, any sleazy practice that gets fucking like, like stops,
they're going to try it again. When they announced it, it was a

(01:47:23):
mistake and they said that we'regoing to try our hardest to get
back to this because this is where we're going to go overall.
But it was too early, right? Like the Vita, it was too early.
Yeah, no. Speaking of which, the Vita had
Bluetooth audio, and guess what?Didn't have it when it launched
the switch. The.
Switch and it took fucking four years for them to even though

(01:47:45):
they deny oh it was impossible to get.
Longer might have been five weeks, probably.
Quickly though Vita was over engineered for the time, it was
a mistake to come out with something bad quality for what
it did it's overhead, and then to give up on it and just stop
making games for. It that was that was a ball
drop, man. Yeah, that was.
A great system. But yeah, Xbox, they made the

(01:48:05):
biggest mistake and then PlayStation stole that back.
They said, yeah, here you go. You want to borrow my game?
Yeah, there you go. And that was the best.
That was the best marketing, yeah.
That was the best thing they could have did that was.
A slam dunk give. You my game, Yeah.
You take it home and play it. And I said I'm buying APS four
and. That made a lot of people just
say, you know what? I'm just buy Sony.

(01:48:26):
That's wrong with Sony. That's what made me get it.
And then? Oh, remember the TV thing?
The the box. The other one, Don Matrick, the
old CEO of Xbox One, Yeah. When they when Jeff Keeley asked
him, oh, what what happens if you you know, you don't have
Internet connection? He's like, oh, well, we have a
perfect solution just to get an Xbox 360.
Yeah. Wow, that sounds.

(01:48:46):
Like and that was the end after that.
Wow, that sounds like an Apple response, to be honest.
Yeah, you're. You're holding it wrong.
It's your fault. What if my mom can't text me
this? Buy her an iPhone.
Yeah, wow. Wow.
But yeah, remember the remember the box, remember the Kinect?
They said only you can only use the Kinect with this.
And then two months later they said no, we did without the

(01:49:07):
Kinect. Mass.
Produced. We were lying, mass produced
said 30 frames per second shouldbe a boss.
Well, you're watching this podcast right now and it's
lagging. I know, I know, man, I know.
I'm just saying this podcast just been lagging.
They also had the whole mentality of everything in a box
media wise because they had theyhad the cable box in the thing,

(01:49:29):
which was a decent idea at the time.
Remember you could check, you could have a DVR, you can record
movies and stuff to to your drive.
Speaking of digital movies, theytook that away.
Oh yeah, we bought it. It's gone now, but yeah, yeah,
it's that was a mistake. They got past it, but we're
going now is the time to do thatagain.
And they're like, yes, we're going to do it now.

(01:49:49):
Another mistake from Sony when they when they had the rental
service for the remember that the online the digital games.
That was terrible. I.
Remember that was the monthly. I forgot what they call it, but
it was. Like PlayStation Now is still
around. Is it, yeah, it's no the the
rental. It's the streaming one.
No, no, no. I'm talking about the rental.
Shit, but they started it like that.
That was terrible, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(01:50:10):
It was like, I like it. Terrible.
Yeah. I like.
It's such a bad model. But instead of your rent anyway,
mother put a date on it. It's.
A. Bad model.
You want to stream out games? I I tried it because it was
free. I was like, all right, let me
give it a trial. I think it was like a week
trial. And I was like, this is trash,
man. They probably could have did it.
The stream was smoother. The stream was smoother and it

(01:50:30):
wasn't available everywhere. You 2 hours, they gave you 2
hours and that was it. I was like who's what?
If you wanted more time, you gotta pay more.
Get out of here man. Yeah, what the hell is this?
Always online is a mistake overall, yeah.
Overall. Yeah, but I understand why
they're doing it, and I don't have much of A gripe as long as

(01:50:50):
there's Internet. As long as you can download the
freaking game. Yeah, that's if you're somewhere
where there's no Internet. I understand why you're pissed.
That's one of the worst. Log in once a year.
Good luck with the Wii U. Yeah, because I know you didn't
turn that on. Oh yeah.
Oh man. That was on my list, actually.
It's Wii U, just the failure of the Wii U almost freaking.

(01:51:13):
Not being able to like people have Wii U's with the broken
game pad. You can't even replace the game
pad, you just have to buy a new system.
It's tied into the system. Games are that.
That's the prototype. Well, the name was a mistake.
That too. The name was a mistake and they
said, oh, what's this new control like about my Wii?
Yeah. Bad market.
That's a that's. A We and we U Terrible

(01:51:33):
marketing, man. That was terrible market.
Too. They could have called it We
Too, and they made more sense. Yeah, we too makes way more, way
more sense. Oh, it's the second one.
Yeah, I meant we as in all of usand you.
Fuck. You.
Yeah, yeah. We.
Fuck. You.
You can buy the F you. The Nintendo.
F you looking back on it was just very ill conceived.

(01:51:56):
It's just like you had a tablet controller.
You had the Wii Remote and the freaking what the the nunchuck
attachment and it wasn't those were like obsolete like it was.
They tried to incorporate them, but it's like it was just, it
was like a. Tech.
Sloppy. It was like a tech demo
basically, man. Sloppily integrated like the.
Vita, it wasn't a genius idea tocome out with the Wii U, but the

(01:52:18):
technology wasn't there as you saw it in the Switch.
That's the idea they had, yeah. It just wasn't there yet.
I thought they were dumb. And that's a genius.
I thought Switch was a genius move.
Switch was a genius. I could remember when Switch
came out, nobody wanted to work with third parties.
We're like, now we're gonna wait.
Yeah, we're gonna wait. Oh no, they hated them.
Yeah, they were like, Oh my God,how?
About this, I don't know about this now it's totally.
Now they're like. The switch make bangers on

(01:52:41):
release. But now you're gonna get.
Banger. You're gonna get Skyrim again on
Switch to. They're gonna.
Get Skyrim again. Now they can't wait.
The Anniversary Edition will play 60 frames.
Matt says the Wee Wee would havebeen a better name the.
Wee wee. Parish Marisa New 3DS.
It was actually a dumb name too.That was what about parish?

(01:53:03):
Adding yeah every. Successful console, bad name,
bad name. Adding new to your title is a
dumb move. That is very.
Old now Yes New Mario Brothers is very old and if they re
release it, it can't be old Mario.
Brothers, no, it's new if you haven't played.
It. I'm going to play New Meyer
Brothers on my new 3DS tomorrow when I purchase it for. $500.

(01:53:24):
Dude, the price is crazy for them.
I guess it worked for them. The new, it's always new.
I think we might have to revisitthis topic guys.
There's always yeah, there's just tons.
That's that. Look, these companies are going
to make more mistakes, head. Start Studios, Steve, what's
going on? Yes, super different.
Nintendo Land, yes, but that's not a mistake.

(01:53:46):
My mistake is what do you call it 1-2 Switch?
That Nintendo Land, oh Nintendo Land is the shit.
The Tech demo 1/2. No, it's sold.
It's like it was. It's a mistake for us.
No, the mistake was the matter. Putting it in with the game,
yeah. 1-2 switch is the biggest RIP off in the history of the
game. It should have been a packing
game. Man that's $60.00 for that piece
of shit game. We got Astro OH for PlayStation

(01:54:07):
Five for free. Yeah, not the, not the whole.
Nintendo Land is Nintendo Land'sway better then once you switch.
Oh yeah. But like, what the fuck with?
Teroland was, yeah, it was fun game.
Telling was actually dope. Dude, if it just came with
bowling for free, that would have been.
It went fine, that was fine. Yeah, X, but then that's
probably the game that everyone just have.
It can Nintendo lower the pricesof their their first party games

(01:54:27):
man. No, on Mario, on Mario Day,
which is, it's 20. Dollars.
Off. They do it for like 1 like is
there like three days a year? That's it though.
Yeah, that's. Terrible man, they're a Metroid
day I'm trying to wait for. Metroid is ready to fucking
drop. You gotta wave.
Actually, it'll be the whatcha gonna call it Black Friday?
I just want to play Metro every thread.
Can I? Can I like?

(01:54:47):
The day trade well, you gotta wait for Metroid Monday.
I gotta wait. For Metroid Monday.
I gotta wait for. Black Sunday.
Yeah, I'll wait for the end of the SO.
It could be 40 bucks. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, it doesn't drop below 40. No freaking does not.
They take 5 bucks off. Motherfuckers is so fucking
crazy. It's fucking crazy, man.
Do you? Think they trademark March 10th?

(01:55:07):
Do you think Nintendo trademarked that day?
Mario 10? Probably, yeah.
I think they probably the. Name Mario to Mario.
They probably. I wouldn't put it past them.
Crazy. Did that shit well, Yeah.
Man, but yeah, we could go on for hours and we don't think.
They've been made, yeah. Forever.
The siren wasn't properly marketed.
Siren was not properly marketed.That's true also, Yeah, yeah,

(01:55:29):
'cause save it. We'll save it for the next show.
Yeah, yeah. Talk about Sagan's mistakes.
The long time. Oh yeah, talking about bringing
it up, but I didn't want to get angry.
No, no, that'll. Be the next show.
Yeah, that'll be in the. Not next.
It'll just, yeah, it'll just be Sega and we'll bring media
glitch on and. He'd be like, what mistake?
What mistake? No mistakes.
We'll just roast shinobi for no reason just to get him, just to

(01:55:53):
get him mad. Shinobi Legions was a mistake.
No bug. Loved it man.
A lot of people like that game. It's still a mistake, but yeah,
that's another time. Yeah.
And another topic. Oh.
Yeah, so. What do we got here?
Hell yes. And for those who are checking
out the podcast for the very first time, decide that you just

(01:56:14):
can't get enough of us. You love what you saw and you
heard, but we got some more content for you in the form of a
streaming schedule starting Sundays.
If you want to start the week with Sunday, it's let's play
Sundays. That's multiplayer games, guys,
co-ops and versus. It's that's how we do it.
Got five people on this channel.So you know, we it's it's we got
to celebrate that stuff startingSundays, 3:30 PM Eastern Time.

(01:56:37):
It's a party. Sometimes we do a second stream
that's going to be at 6:00. But you want to join the Discord
files on social media to find out what games are going to be
playing. Chalk what you got for Fridays.
You got Fighter Fridays, 9:00 PMEastern Standard Time.
Every Friday I play fighting games.
I play beat them up. Sometimes I beat people up.
Sometimes I get beat up this Friday.
We're playing. What are you playing, man?

(01:57:00):
Friday we're. Playing.
Tekken 8 Tekken. You get juggled like a clown.
Damn, I haven't played that. That's what happened today.
It took care. Damn.
But yeah, yeah, we're playing Tekken 8 this Friday.
It's been almost a month since that game has been on the
channel. So, you know, got to throw some
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know? It's all good.
It's all good fun, not. Bad is that first season
Passover? Yes, the season pass starts.
The second season pass starts inApril.
Announcements coming. Anna Williams has been doing the
what you we're going to go over it on March 23rd or something
like that. Nice.
All right, can't wait. Not bad.
And Wednesdays, 7:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, that's all five

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Let's build this community up. Oh yeah, buddy, Brick by brick.
Sensation. All right.
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I don't know if the hot rose is going to go, so I'm going to hit
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