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GMT20251201-211223_Record (00:00):
Hello and welcome to the Leveraging AI
(00:01):
Podcast, the podcast that sharespractical, ethical ways to
leverage AI to improveefficiency, grow your business,
and advance your career.
This Isar Metis, your host, andtoday I'm going to share with
you something that I just didthis week that I found
incredible even though this iswhat I do day in, day out, is
build different AI processes andtools for companies.
(00:23):
Sometimes I just find myselfamazed with how good the tool
became and how combiningdifferent tools can achieve
really incredible outputs in avery short amount of time.
So what I'm gonna show you todayis how to go from an idea in
your head to an extremelyhelpful application that people
can use to get benefits from bycombining several different
(00:46):
tools with several differentagents that you all have access
to, and doing all of that.
We're gonna go through theentire process in about 20
minutes.
So from an idea in your head toa working application that
people can use to get value fromby combining several different
tools in a very.
Short amount of time, and ithappened to me when I was
(01:08):
working on preparing for theintroduction to Business
automation with AI course thatwe just launched.
So when you're listening to thispodcast, it's gonna be too late
to join the current cohortbecause it's already gonna be
running.
But we will open another cohort,most likely in the beginning of
February.
So if learning how to combine AIwith workflow automation tools
(01:31):
like N8N and Make is somethingyou want to learn.
This would be an amazing coursefor you.
By the way, if you're not thereyet from a progress perspective
and you need more basictraining, we have the next
cohort of the AI BusinessTransformation course starting
at the end of January.
There's links to both of thosein the show notes, but now let's
(01:51):
go into the process of exactlywhat I did and how I did it.
So my need was to comparedifferent automation tools, what
they are good for, what they'renot good for, what are their
strengths and weaknesses, and toshow it in ways that will be
helpful for users.
Your idea or your need might bedifferent.
(02:13):
But the way I started thisprocess is I thought about where
can I have information aboutthis?
And the very first thing thatcame to my mind is an episode
I've done not too long ago withPietro who shared different
automation tools and how heselects between them and what is
his criteria, which I thoughtwas very helpful.
So the first thing that I did isI took the transcript of my
(02:35):
conversation with Pietro, whichyou can do for any meeting by
the way that you have.
So whether the native tools likemicrosoft Teams or Zoom or
whatever tool you are using torecord can do that or use any of
the third party platforms thatknows how to transcribe and take
notes.
I use Fathom, but there's manyother great tools out there.
(02:56):
But in this particular case, Iactually had the benefit of the
fact that I have a YouTubechannel and Gemini knows how to
view YouTube and understand thecontext.
So all I did is I took the linkto this particular episode from
my YouTube channel and I gave itto Gemini, and I said, the
following, I would like you topreview this video, and I gave
it the link and provide a list.
(03:18):
Of all the different tools thatallows to build agent flows and
what are the strengths andweaknesses that the speaker
mentions about each of them.
These tools are like N8N relayrelevance, et cetera.
And that's it.
That was the entire prompt.
And then I got a very detailedoutput that says, the best AI
agent tools, N8N relay relevanceand more by, et cetera, et
(03:41):
cetera.
And then it just gave me theanswers.
So then I have N8N, thestrengths and weaknesses,
relevance, ai, strengths andweaknesses, relay Apps,
strengths and weaknesses,make.com, and then a summary.
And then I said, okay, this is agood start, but I actually want
to go deeper and I wanna learnabout more tools than the tools
we discussed in the actualepisode.
(04:02):
So then.
I still in Gemini used the deepresearch tool.
Those of you who don't know whatdeep research is in almost each
and every one of the platformstoday, whether you are on
ChatGPT or Gemini, or Claude orPerplexity, et cetera, there's a
deep research option thatinstead of giving you a quick
answer, actually goes andresearches.
(04:22):
Multiple different websites andthen writes a very detailed
report, which is what I did inthis particular case.
I really like deep research inGemini.
I find it to be extremelypowerful, and so that's why I
use Gemini for this particulartask, and I wrote the following,
I would like you to perform aresearch and analysis comparing
workflow and agent creationtools such as N8N Make.com,
(04:45):
Zapier, relay relevance, etcetera.
For each of these, provide ashort summary that includes
general description, pros andcons, and recommendations of
when to use it compared with theother tools, and in the end,
create a table of summary thatcan be used in a presentation
that combines all of theirinformation in a short and
(05:06):
concise way.
Now the way Gemini works is thatit gives you its research plan,
and it gave me the plan, whichwasn't perfect because it was
relating just to the tools thatI mentioned and I wanted to go
beyond so.
I edited the plan and asked itto include additional tools as
well.
And then he gave me the updatedplan and I let it start running,
(05:28):
and then it worked for a while,which is the way it works.
And it gave me a highly detailedreport.
So if you're seeing this on thescreen on YouTube, then you can
see the report as I'm scrolling.
If not, I can tell you this is amulti-page report with a lot of
details about each and every oneof the platforms.
(05:48):
Way beyond the platforms that Ihad before, comparing their
ecosystem, what they can connectto, what are they good at, when
it was established, what is itbest for, et cetera, et cetera.
Everything that I asked for, avery detailed analysis.
That was a very good startingpoint.
Again, to generalize this toyour work, whatever idea that
you have, whether it's somethingrelated to your product,
(06:10):
something related to yourservice, knowing more about
potential clients, aboutexisting clients.
Deep research is a very good wayto increase the amount of
knowledge you have all fromspecific sources, and you can
even define the sources you wantit to go after or let it find
the sources on its own.
Now if we scroll down to thetable at the end that I asked
(06:32):
for, it created a featurecapability metrics, and what it
includes in there is what is thecore paradigm, basically, what
does this tool mainly do?
Reasoning engine behind it.
Can you do looping, which is theability to break stuff into its
smallest component and run eachand every one of them
separately, which are verypowerful capability when you're
(06:53):
creating automations.
Web scraping, human in the loopcapabilities, self-hosting
capability and visual debuggingof the process all are very
important things that I would'veloved to compare about each of
the tools.
And then on the column, it hasN8N Make Zapier Relay.
Relevance and gum loop.
These are the tools that itchose.
It actually has more of them inthe actual report.
(07:15):
And then there is the specificdefinition about H and v.
One of them with either a V oran X if it doesn't exist or it
exists, but, and then it has awarning sign next to it.
So red, yellow, and green.
Very easy to see what is what.
So now I have three differentresources that I created in just
(07:36):
a few minutes of my own time.
I have a detailed report.
I have the summary of the videothat I gave it.
And I have the table that wascreated in the end.
So let's start with a table.
I wanted to use this in mypresentation inside of the
course so I can show thetrainees what kind of tools they
can be using and what theyshould use them for.
(07:57):
And so all I did is I literallycopied this table that was
created by Gemini and dropped itinto Google Slides and created a
page that looked like this.
So I called it Options Galore,and I added some graphics on the
top and just pasted the table,and that's it.
And I was ready with a slide,but Gemini in the latest release
(08:19):
just added this really coolbutton on the bottom that says,
beautify this slide.
And all I did is click thebutton and it went from just a.
Table that was good and helpfulto something that looks really,
really cool.
It added these more futuristicview to the slide.
It has these laser-like linesbetween the columns and rows.
(08:43):
It added the logos of all thedifferent tools in the headers
without me even asking for it.
And it just made the slide lookreally, really cool with some
background that looks like.
Tron, like these blue lines thatare running behind the scenes
just as a faint background inthe back end.
And this was just one click.
So I went from a pretty boringslide to a really cool slide by
(09:07):
using a new AI feature that isnow available inside of Gemini.
So this was just icing on thecake as far as the presentation,
but I wanted to do more.
I wanted the people to also havethe capability to see the
details and not just thesummary.
And I wanted to be able torecommend to them the right tool
(09:27):
for the right task based ontheir level of experience and so
on.
My initial idea was just tocreate a better looking document
than the report that comes outof Gemini.
So Gemini creates great reports,but it is really bad at
formatting.
The tool that is currently bestat formatting is actually
Claude, so Claude.
(09:49):
Knows how to create amazinglooking word documents, PDF
files and so on, just by givingit the raw information.
So I started a new conversationin Claude and I uploaded the
file that I got from Gemini.
So the long report that you cansee here, it is 18 pages long of
a report, and I uploaded toClaude and I said.
(10:11):
Please make this look nicerusing my brand guidelines.
My goal was to create a nicelooking document, but the cool
thing about the tools today andClaude is definitely one of the
leading ones in this particularaspect.
Claude came back afterevaluating the document that
said the following, I will helpyou apply your brand guidelines
to make something look better.
(10:31):
However, I need to see what youwould like me to work with.
Could you please share one, thecontent document you want styled
with your brand guidelines.
Is it a presentation document,webpage or something else?
I will then use the multiplyguide brand guidelines, uh,
entrance, form it into a Polishbranded piece.
(10:53):
This gave me an idea, what ifinstead of creating a document
or a presentation, I create aninteractive webpage.
So the idea came from Claude andnot from me, but then I asked
for the following.
It will be awesome if you cancreate an interactive page in
which the user will be able toselect from dropdown menus,
different parameters such astheir goal and their level of
(11:16):
technical proficiency, and itwill rank the relevant results
for them and explain why it isbest for them.
So then it immediately wentworking and gave me a
interactive tool like I askedfor that looks like this.
So those of you who arelistening to the podcast and not
watching on YouTube, it has therobot icon on top that is like
(11:38):
the emoji of the robot.
It says AI automation platformselector.
Find the perfect automation toolfor your needs.
And it has several differentquestions.
Question number one, what isyour primary goal?
And there's several differentoptions there.
What are your technicalproficiency?
What is your budget sensitivity?
And what is the expectedautomation volume, and each and
every one of them has multipleoptions that you can pick from,
(12:01):
and once you pick that, it givesyou an answer.
So overall amazingimplementation, exactly what I
wanted and all I had to do isask it to generate something in
this general direction.
My only problem was that thebackground is purple and the
button is purple.
And I asked it to build it basedon my brand guidelines.
(12:22):
So then all I had to do is askit to change it to my brand
guidelines, and it changed it tothis.
So those of you who again, cansee the screen, it looks a way
more professional than theprevious version, but it also
looked like it is mine.
It has multiplies my company'slogo on top.
It uses my font, my colors, andit just looks much better and
(12:45):
aligned with my brandguidelines.
On the bottom, it added part bymultiply ai, AI business
transformation experts.
All absolutely fantastic.
And just to show you how thetool works, let's pick something
random.
So I'm trying to build acomplex, uh, business logic and
routing.
I am an advanced user.
Uh, what is my level of budget?
Let's say 220 to a hundreddollars a month, and I have a
(13:10):
medium level of automationbetween 1,010 thousand
executions per month.
And then I click find myplatform and it tells me which
one should I go with.
So the first two that he gave meis make an N8N and then relay,
and then gum loop, and thenstack ai.
And for each and every one ofthem, it tells me why it picked
that platform.
(13:31):
By the way, if I change it now,and I say that I am a, I don't
need something complex, I needto build AI agents, and I click
the button again.
Then now N8N is first, and thengum loop is second, and flow
wise is third.
So you can see this thingactually does the work behind
the scenes and it gives me whyit thinks this will be the best
(13:52):
tool for me.
Then you're probably askingyourself, how the hell does it
know my brand guidelines and howdid he do this amazing magic
going from something ugly andpurple to being completely
aligned with all my products andsoftware and brochures and
everything without me having toexplain what that means?
Well, this is because somethingin the backend of Claude that is
(14:14):
called Claude Skills.
So you're probably askingyourself what are these Claude
skills, where they live and howyou create them?
Well, I'm glad you asked.
If you go to Claude, then you goto settings on the bottom left
corner.
One of the options you can pickis capabilities.
If you click on capabilities,you will see different things.
The first one is artifacts andthen code execution and file
(14:36):
creation, and then memory.
And underneath that you've gotskills and it comes with
multiple built-in capabilitieslike algorithmic art, brand
guidelines.
Canvas design, internal comms,MCP Builder, et cetera.
One of the cool ones is calledSkill Creator.
So if you use this skill, itwill help you build new skills.
(14:58):
How do you use a skill?
Well, in one of two ways.
One is, if you are on this pagenext to the skill you want to
use, there are three differentdots.
There's like a Ellips says threepoint menu.
If you click on that, it saystry in chat, and if you click on
the try in chat, it will open itin chat.
So you can see right now it saysthat and it's already ready to
(15:18):
go.
But another way to do this is ifyou're in just a regular chat
and you tell it, I would like tobuild a new skill.
It knows how to call the rightskill.
So this is the cool thing aboutClaude Scale.
Claude knows how to call themonly when it needs them, so they
don't.
Consume tokens and don't takespace in the context window
(15:40):
unless they're actually needed.
So the skill that I createdusing this skill builder from
Claude is teaching it how to usemy brand guidelines.
What kind of tone do I use?
What kind of font do I use?
What are the colors that I use,how does that my logo look like?
And so on.
And it creates a package for youthat then you upload.
(16:02):
And I'll show you again if yougo to settings.
And you go to capabilitiesagain, and you go to the area
where you have all the skills.
There's a button that saysUpload skill.
And all you have to do is uploadthe package that Claude itself
created for you, and then youhave a new skill.
And then when I ask Claude to dostuff based on my brand
guidelines, it knows exactlywhat to do.
(16:24):
And as you've seen or if youjust listen, then you have to
believe me.
It was a completetransformation.
To something that lookscompletely like something that a
web team will develop for mebased on my guidelines.
So what did we learn today?
You can take an idea, A conceptin my case is was I need the
ability to share with people howto compare between different
(16:46):
automation tools.
But for you it might becomparing between different
types of.
Products that you offer ordifferent services that you
offer, or anything else that youwant to do from an HR
perspective or any kind of otheridea that you have, you can
start with.
Analyzing existing data that youhave, because AI is really good
(17:07):
at that.
You can continue with deepresearch that will get you a lot
more information from thirdparty sources, and we'll give
you a very detailed analysis,and then you can use a tool like
Claude to convert it into a muchbetter looking document, a tool
like Gemini to turn it intoamazing presentations and
slides, or still in Claude,create a fully interactive tool
(17:30):
that beyond just reading, whichis boring and in most cases not
very helpful, something that canhelp people make decisions in a
much more easy and user friendlyway.
And if you use Claude skills,you can build specific skills
like analyzing specific kinds ofdata in a specific kind of way
that you do regularly in yourcompany or formatting things,
(17:52):
uh, to your liking.
Or as I showed you, using brandguidelines or creating specific
kinds of data you need fordifferent processes in a format
that the process requires.
Literally anything you canimagine, you can create it as a
scale and then Claude knows howto use it.
All of that took 20 minutes andyou can do the same exact thing.
(18:14):
So what's the bottom line?
The bottom line is don't beafraid to try different tools.
Don't be afraid to.
Experiment, and then you can doreally magical things by just
combining three or four toolstogether in merely minutes that
would've taken otherwise hoursand maybe days to complete.
As long as you have the goal inmind of providing value to your
(18:37):
target audience, which from myperspective was people who are
taking the course, then you aredoing the right thing for the
right reason, in the right way.
That is it for today.
Hopefully you found this shortand to the point and very
helpful.
Go experiment more with ai.
If you wanna learn more aboutthe courses, check out the links
in the show notes.
(18:57):
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Until the next episode, have anamazing rest of your week.
Hello and welcome to the Leveraging AI
(00:01):
Podcast, the podcast that sharespractical, ethical ways to
leverage AI to improveefficiency, grow your business,
and advance your career.
This Isar Metis, your host, andtoday I'm going to share with
you something that I just didthis week that I found
incredible even though this iswhat I do day in, day out, is
build different AI processes andtools for companies.
(00:23):
Sometimes I just find myselfamazed with how good the tool
became and how combiningdifferent tools can achieve
really incredible outputs in avery short amount of time.
So what I'm gonna show you todayis how to go from an idea in
your head to an extremelyhelpful application that people
can use to get benefits from bycombining several different
(00:46):
tools with several differentagents that you all have access
to, and doing all of that.
We're gonna go through theentire process in about 20
minutes.
So from an idea in your head toa working application that
people can use to get value fromby combining several different
tools in a very.
Short amount of time, and ithappened to me when I was
(01:08):
working on preparing for theintroduction to Business
automation with AI course thatwe just launched.
So when you're listening to thispodcast, it's gonna be too late
to join the current cohortbecause it's already gonna be
running.
But we will open another cohort,most likely in the beginning of
February.
So if learning how to combine AIwith workflow automation tools
(01:31):
like N8N and Make is somethingyou want to learn.
This would be an amazing coursefor you.
By the way, if you're not thereyet from a progress perspective
and you need more basictraining, we have the next
cohort of the AI BusinessTransformation course starting
at the end of January.
There's links to both of thosein the show notes, but now let's
(01:51):
go into the process of exactlywhat I did and how I did it.
So my need was to comparedifferent automation tools, what
they are good for, what they'renot good for, what are their
strengths and weaknesses, and toshow it in ways that will be
helpful for users.
Your idea or your need might bedifferent.
(02:13):
But the way I started thisprocess is I thought about where
can I have information aboutthis?
And the very first thing thatcame to my mind is an episode
I've done not too long ago withPietro who shared different
automation tools and how heselects between them and what is
his criteria, which I thoughtwas very helpful.
So the first thing that I did isI took the transcript of my
(02:35):
conversation with Pietro, whichyou can do for any meeting by
the way that you have.
So whether the native tools likemicrosoft Teams or Zoom or
whatever tool you are using torecord can do that or use any of
the third party platforms thatknows how to transcribe and take
notes.
I use Fathom, but there's manyother great tools out there.
(02:56):
But in this particular case, Iactually had the benefit of the
fact that I have a YouTubechannel and Gemini knows how to
view YouTube and understand thecontext.
So all I did is I took the linkto this particular episode from
my YouTube channel and I gave itto Gemini, and I said, the
following, I would like you topreview this video, and I gave
it the link and provide a list.
(03:18):
Of all the different tools thatallows to build agent flows and
what are the strengths andweaknesses that the speaker
mentions about each of them.
These tools are like N8N relayrelevance, et cetera.
And that's it.
That was the entire prompt.
And then I got a very detailedoutput that says, the best AI
agent tools, N8N relay relevanceand more by, et cetera, et
(03:41):
cetera.
And then it just gave me theanswers.
So then I have N8N, thestrengths and weaknesses,
relevance, ai, strengths andweaknesses, relay Apps,
strengths and weaknesses,make.com, and then a summary.
And then I said, okay, this is agood start, but I actually want
to go deeper and I wanna learnabout more tools than the tools
we discussed in the actualepisode.
(04:02):
So then.
I still in Gemini used the deepresearch tool.
Those of you who don't know whatdeep research is in almost each
and every one of the platformstoday, whether you are on
ChatGPT or Gemini, or Claude orPerplexity, et cetera, there's a
deep research option thatinstead of giving you a quick
answer, actually goes andresearches.
(04:22):
Multiple different websites andthen writes a very detailed
report, which is what I did inthis particular case.
I really like deep research inGemini.
I find it to be extremelypowerful, and so that's why I
use Gemini for this particulartask, and I wrote the following,
I would like you to perform aresearch and analysis comparing
workflow and agent creationtools such as N8N Make.com,
(04:45):
Zapier, relay relevance, etcetera.
For each of these, provide ashort summary that includes
general description, pros andcons, and recommendations of
when to use it compared with theother tools, and in the end,
create a table of summary thatcan be used in a presentation
that combines all of theirinformation in a short and
(05:06):
concise way.
Now the way Gemini works is thatit gives you its research plan,
and it gave me the plan, whichwasn't perfect because it was
relating just to the tools thatI mentioned and I wanted to go
beyond so.
I edited the plan and asked itto include additional tools as
well.
And then he gave me the updatedplan and I let it start running,
(05:28):
and then it worked for a while,which is the way it works.
And it gave me a highly detailedreport.
So if you're seeing this on thescreen on YouTube, then you can
see the report as I'm scrolling.
If not, I can tell you this is amulti-page report with a lot of
details about each and every oneof the platforms.
(05:48):
Way beyond the platforms that Ihad before, comparing their
ecosystem, what they can connectto, what are they good at, when
it was established, what is itbest for, et cetera, et cetera.
Everything that I asked for, avery detailed analysis.
That was a very good startingpoint.
Again, to generalize this toyour work, whatever idea that
you have, whether it's somethingrelated to your product,
(06:10):
something related to yourservice, knowing more about
potential clients, aboutexisting clients.
Deep research is a very good wayto increase the amount of
knowledge you have all fromspecific sources, and you can
even define the sources you wantit to go after or let it find
the sources on its own.
Now if we scroll down to thetable at the end that I asked
(06:32):
for, it created a featurecapability metrics, and what it
includes in there is what is thecore paradigm, basically, what
does this tool mainly do?
Reasoning engine behind it.
Can you do looping, which is theability to break stuff into its
smallest component and run eachand every one of them
separately, which are verypowerful capability when you're
(06:53):
creating automations.
Web scraping, human in the loopcapabilities, self-hosting
capability and visual debuggingof the process all are very
important things that I would'veloved to compare about each of
the tools.
And then on the column, it hasN8N Make Zapier Relay.
Relevance and gum loop.
These are the tools that itchose.
It actually has more of them inthe actual report.
(07:15):
And then there is the specificdefinition about H and v.
One of them with either a V oran X if it doesn't exist or it
exists, but, and then it has awarning sign next to it.
So red, yellow, and green.
Very easy to see what is what.
So now I have three differentresources that I created in just
(07:36):
a few minutes of my own time.
I have a detailed report.
I have the summary of the videothat I gave it.
And I have the table that wascreated in the end.
So let's start with a table.
I wanted to use this in mypresentation inside of the
course so I can show thetrainees what kind of tools they
can be using and what theyshould use them for.
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And so all I did is I literallycopied this table that was
created by Gemini and dropped itinto Google Slides and created a
page that looked like this.
So I called it Options Galore,and I added some graphics on the
top and just pasted the table,and that's it.
And I was ready with a slide,but Gemini in the latest release
(08:19):
just added this really coolbutton on the bottom that says,
beautify this slide.
And all I did is click thebutton and it went from just a.
Table that was good and helpfulto something that looks really,
really cool.
It added these more futuristicview to the slide.
It has these laser-like linesbetween the columns and rows.
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It added the logos of all thedifferent tools in the headers
without me even asking for it.
And it just made the slide lookreally, really cool with some
background that looks like.
Tron, like these blue lines thatare running behind the scenes
just as a faint background inthe back end.
And this was just one click.
So I went from a pretty boringslide to a really cool slide by
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using a new AI feature that isnow available inside of Gemini.
So this was just icing on thecake as far as the presentation,
but I wanted to do more.
I wanted the people to also havethe capability to see the
details and not just thesummary.
And I wanted to be able torecommend to them the right tool
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for the right task based ontheir level of experience and so
on.
My initial idea was just tocreate a better looking document
than the report that comes outof Gemini.
So Gemini creates great reports,but it is really bad at
formatting.
The tool that is currently bestat formatting is actually
Claude, so Claude.
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Knows how to create amazinglooking word documents, PDF
files and so on, just by givingit the raw information.
So I started a new conversationin Claude and I uploaded the
file that I got from Gemini.
So the long report that you cansee here, it is 18 pages long of
a report, and I uploaded toClaude and I said.
(10:11):
Please make this look nicerusing my brand guidelines.
My goal was to create a nicelooking document, but the cool
thing about the tools today andClaude is definitely one of the
leading ones in this particularaspect.
Claude came back afterevaluating the document that
said the following, I will helpyou apply your brand guidelines
to make something look better.
(10:31):
However, I need to see what youwould like me to work with.
Could you please share one, thecontent document you want styled
with your brand guidelines.
Is it a presentation document,webpage or something else?
I will then use the multiplyguide brand guidelines, uh,
entrance, form it into a Polishbranded piece.
(10:53):
This gave me an idea, what ifinstead of creating a document
or a presentation, I create aninteractive webpage.
So the idea came from Claude andnot from me, but then I asked
for the following.
It will be awesome if you cancreate an interactive page in
which the user will be able toselect from dropdown menus,
different parameters such astheir goal and their level of
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technical proficiency, and itwill rank the relevant results
for them and explain why it isbest for them.
So then it immediately wentworking and gave me a
interactive tool like I askedfor that looks like this.
So those of you who arelistening to the podcast and not
watching on YouTube, it has therobot icon on top that is like
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the emoji of the robot.
It says AI automation platformselector.
Find the perfect automation toolfor your needs.
And it has several differentquestions.
Question number one, what isyour primary goal?
And there's several differentoptions there.
What are your technicalproficiency?
What is your budget sensitivity?
And what is the expectedautomation volume, and each and
every one of them has multipleoptions that you can pick from,
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and once you pick that, it givesyou an answer.
So overall amazingimplementation, exactly what I
wanted and all I had to do isask it to generate something in
this general direction.
My only problem was that thebackground is purple and the
button is purple.
And I asked it to build it basedon my brand guidelines.
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So then all I had to do is askit to change it to my brand
guidelines, and it changed it tothis.
So those of you who again, cansee the screen, it looks a way
more professional than theprevious version, but it also
looked like it is mine.
It has multiplies my company'slogo on top.
It uses my font, my colors, andit just looks much better and
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aligned with my brandguidelines.
On the bottom, it added part bymultiply ai, AI business
transformation experts.
All absolutely fantastic.
And just to show you how thetool works, let's pick something
random.
So I'm trying to build acomplex, uh, business logic and
routing.
I am an advanced user.
Uh, what is my level of budget?
Let's say 220 to a hundreddollars a month, and I have a
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medium level of automationbetween 1,010 thousand
executions per month.
And then I click find myplatform and it tells me which
one should I go with.
So the first two that he gave meis make an N8N and then relay,
and then gum loop, and thenstack ai.
And for each and every one ofthem, it tells me why it picked
that platform.
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By the way, if I change it now,and I say that I am a, I don't
need something complex, I needto build AI agents, and I click
the button again.
Then now N8N is first, and thengum loop is second, and flow
wise is third.
So you can see this thingactually does the work behind
the scenes and it gives me whyit thinks this will be the best
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tool for me.
Then you're probably askingyourself, how the hell does it
know my brand guidelines and howdid he do this amazing magic
going from something ugly andpurple to being completely
aligned with all my products andsoftware and brochures and
everything without me having toexplain what that means?
Well, this is because somethingin the backend of Claude that is
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called Claude Skills.
So you're probably askingyourself what are these Claude
skills, where they live and howyou create them?
Well, I'm glad you asked.
If you go to Claude, then you goto settings on the bottom left
corner.
One of the options you can pickis capabilities.
If you click on capabilities,you will see different things.
The first one is artifacts andthen code execution and file
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creation, and then memory.
And underneath that you've gotskills and it comes with
multiple built-in capabilitieslike algorithmic art, brand
guidelines.
Canvas design, internal comms,MCP Builder, et cetera.
One of the cool ones is calledSkill Creator.
So if you use this skill, itwill help you build new skills.
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How do you use a skill?
Well, in one of two ways.
One is, if you are on this pagenext to the skill you want to
use, there are three differentdots.
There's like a Ellips says threepoint menu.
If you click on that, it saystry in chat, and if you click on
the try in chat, it will open itin chat.
So you can see right now it saysthat and it's already ready to
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go.
But another way to do this is ifyou're in just a regular chat
and you tell it, I would like tobuild a new skill.
It knows how to call the rightskill.
So this is the cool thing aboutClaude Scale.
Claude knows how to call themonly when it needs them, so they
don't.
Consume tokens and don't takespace in the context window
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unless they're actually needed.
So the skill that I createdusing this skill builder from
Claude is teaching it how to usemy brand guidelines.
What kind of tone do I use?
What kind of font do I use?
What are the colors that I use,how does that my logo look like?
And so on.
And it creates a package for youthat then you upload.
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And I'll show you again if yougo to settings.
And you go to capabilitiesagain, and you go to the area
where you have all the skills.
There's a button that saysUpload skill.
And all you have to do is uploadthe package that Claude itself
created for you, and then youhave a new skill.
And then when I ask Claude to dostuff based on my brand
guidelines, it knows exactlywhat to do.
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And as you've seen or if youjust listen, then you have to
believe me.
It was a completetransformation.
To something that lookscompletely like something that a
web team will develop for mebased on my guidelines.
So what did we learn today?
You can take an idea, A conceptin my case is was I need the
ability to share with people howto compare between different
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automation tools.
But for you it might becomparing between different
types of.
Products that you offer ordifferent services that you
offer, or anything else that youwant to do from an HR
perspective or any kind of otheridea that you have, you can
start with.
Analyzing existing data that youhave, because AI is really good
(17:07):
at that.
You can continue with deepresearch that will get you a lot
more information from thirdparty sources, and we'll give
you a very detailed analysis,and then you can use a tool like
Claude to convert it into a muchbetter looking document, a tool
like Gemini to turn it intoamazing presentations and
slides, or still in Claude,create a fully interactive tool
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that beyond just reading, whichis boring and in most cases not
very helpful, something that canhelp people make decisions in a
much more easy and user friendlyway.
And if you use Claude skills,you can build specific skills
like analyzing specific kinds ofdata in a specific kind of way
that you do regularly in yourcompany or formatting things,
(17:52):
uh, to your liking.
Or as I showed you, using brandguidelines or creating specific
kinds of data you need fordifferent processes in a format
that the process requires.
Literally anything you canimagine, you can create it as a
scale and then Claude knows howto use it.
All of that took 20 minutes andyou can do the same exact thing.
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So what's the bottom line?
The bottom line is don't beafraid to try different tools.
Don't be afraid to.
Experiment, and then you can doreally magical things by just
combining three or four toolstogether in merely minutes that
would've taken otherwise hoursand maybe days to complete.
As long as you have the goal inmind of providing value to your
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target audience, which from myperspective was people who are
taking the course, then you aredoing the right thing for the
right reason, in the right way.
That is it for today.
Hopefully you found this shortand to the point and very
helpful.
Go experiment more with ai.
If you wanna learn more aboutthe courses, check out the links
in the show notes.
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And if you enjoyed this episodeand if you're enjoying this
podcast in general, please likeand share it with other people.
You can do this.
It's right now, it takes fiveseconds.
Just pull up your phone, clickon the share button on your
podcasting platform and sharethis with several people who can
benefit from this.
They will be grateful.
I will be grateful and you'll bedoing something good.
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So you will feel great aboutyourself.
That's it for today.
We have some really excitingguests that we have recorded and
recording with, so the next fewepisodes are gonna be absolutely
incredible.
Until the next episode, have anamazing rest of your week.
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