March 5, 2025 • 62 mins
In this episode, we explore the creative journey of Selena Brooks as she discusses her latest projects, including "Southern Sizzle" and the upcoming "Southern Scramble." Her insights provide a unique look into character development and the spice of Southern drama.
• Introduction and trigger warnings
• Background of author Selena Brooks
• Overview of "Southern Sizzle" and its impact
• Insight into "Southern Scramble" and character relationships
• Discussion of drama and romance intertwined in storytelling
• Exploration of reader expectations and tropes used
• Engagement with marketing strategies and influencers
• Selena's thoughts on balancing personal experiences in writing
• Future projects and where to follow Selena Brooks
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
hey y'all.
Hey, you are watching andlistening to licks between the
lines and I am your host licks.
Of course I am.
Before we go ahead and get intoit, let's go ahead and get into
these trigger warnings.
We all know I tried to stay inbetween the line, but sometimes
I tend to cross them.
I don't think I may cross themtoday, but you just never know
(00:24):
how the conversation is gonna go.
Trigger number one there maythere will be custom, there will
be adult language discussed,there will be adult situations
discuss.
There may or may not bementioned of BDSM, because I
have a lot of questions for missSelena today.
So just take this as yourtrigger warning.
(00:49):
Trigger warning this is thetrigger warning.
So if you decide to continue onwith us, stay tuned.
Without further ado, I'm goingto let my co-host introduce
herself.
This is her second time backwith us.
I'm so excited Her new book isgetting ready to come out, but
(01:10):
I'm gonna let her tell you guysabout it, ok.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Hi everybody.
My name is Selena Brooks.
I am a one time publishedauthor.
My first book is calledSouthern Sizzle and it is out
now.
It's been doing pretty goodMatter of fact.
I was at a recent event andsold eight copies, so that was
(01:37):
pretty good.
My next book, which we'llprobably be discussing's called
southern scramble.
I anticipated to be out thisyear before november 1st or on
november 1st, depending on howlife goes.
So be looking out for that andthank you for having me you are
(02:01):
welcome.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I'm just gonna go ahead and dive in, because even
the southern scramble is aboutreese and her football player.
But before we even get intothat, even though I am not a
football fan, let me see yourshirt.
Let let us see your shirt, okay.
(02:22):
Okay, you got on us, we here,because I'm in Louisiana and you
and Mississippi, so we kind ofknow just college cuz.
Like I said, I'm not even I'mnot a big football fan.
I had a cousin I used to playfor the Saints and he's real old
(02:44):
right now, so Rufus Porter.
But um, why?
Why we playing for the Cowboys?
And I grew up all of my familyare big Saints fans and, like I
say, it could be because ourcousin played for the Saints and
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then he went to the.
It could be because our cousinplayed for the Saints and then
he went to the Dolphins back inthe day or the Seahawks.
Yeah, he went to thosedifferent teams.
But the Cowboys I know enoughfor my family.
The Cowboys I know some ofy'all and listen, if y'all watch
this and try and call for me,just know, I like to go back and
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forth in my spare time becauseI see what I see why you make
him play for the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Okay, so boom, when I was writing the story, the
character of Terrence went tothe University of Southern
Mississippi for school and youknow was a standout player, or
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whatever you have to be in orderto get drafted.
I was like it just seemed toocoincidental for him to go to
the team that was most likelyhis hometown favorite, or you
(04:14):
know.
Whatever have you?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I don't know why I picked the Cowboys, because I
can't stand the Cowboys and look, this is going to give away
about when we, because I alwaysI batch record and I be telling
people I want to let you followalong on my influencer and
podcast journey.
So sometimes I pre and batchrecord a lot of these episodes.
So just recently the Cowboysand the Saints played.
Who won that game?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
who that?
But I will say I think where itcame from was at the time I was
living in Dallas.
Where it came from was at thetime I was living in Dallas and
I think it just was naturallylike a progression of like.
(05:11):
Okay, I don't, I think it's toocoincidental for him to play
for the Saints, but I'm inDallas, I have access to this
information, so let me make hima cowboy we gonna let you slide
with this.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You skipped over a whole state to get to cowboy
nation.
I ain't gonna hold.
I ain't gonna hold it againstyou.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I will say at least I didn't make him a falcon cause.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
That's blasphemy, you gotta do your, you gotta do
your.
I would never tell us moreabout Terrence in his high well,
(06:11):
not high school, because hewent.
He was from Mississippi, right,right, and then he went to
Southern Miss oh no, no, no, I'msorry he went to.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
He went to college at Southern Miss.
He is actually from Dallas.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Oh, okay, I let him slide.
Since he's from Dallas, I'mgoing to go and let him slide a
little bit, even though he stillcould have went out for the
Saints.
You don't have to play for thehome team.
That made me forget.
Oh, this is what.
I was about to ask when he wasin school, did he have like a
love interest, or are we gonnasee him like a first love or
anything while he's in?
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Hot, oh you.
Tight already, she tightalready.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Y'all look at her lips I would say there is some
drama that is revealed from hispast at Southern Miss Involving
a girl.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Oh Lord, it's going to be a secret baby, get your
face, your face turned so red.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
My face is naturally red red.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I'm reddish hued you were extra red.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I match my um, I match the pink right now, but I
would, if I have to answer thatI'm, I'm going to be.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
It's going to be too much tea.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
It's going to be a spoiler.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Because, I'm telling you, this book is 10 times more
dramatic than the first one.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
It's 10 times more dramatic than the first one.
It's ten times more dramaticthan the first one.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I would say the first one is more spicy, like with
the romance, but this one it's alittle bit spicy, but the drama
off the charts.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
And I live for drama Now is is this drama gonna
happen before or after or duringcan you tell us that?
Or during the marriage?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
oh, it's during oh, so they married already well,
you know, at the end of the lastbook.
Well, you know, because youread it, that he proposed.
So the book Southern Scramblepicks up after they're married.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I feel I want to ask is this going to be Reese
getting her karma from all themen that she did?
Why would I ask these questions?
Your face turned the color ofyour headphones.
Oh wait, you like this bitchasking all the good questions
and she ain't gonna be thespoiler of the book no, it's.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I mean it's all good because you know everybody, it
was like everybody hates Chrisbut everybody hates Reese when
first book.
So I wouldn't say this book isher redemption, but I'll say
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that it's a lot that she's goingto gonna go through so it's
hugging her karma.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Perhaps is that give us some trope insights.
What kind of tropes can weexpect?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
um, in this one it almost teeters the line of why
choose?
Because there is a new malelove interest I love a good, why
choose not?
But I would say it just is justteetering.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
It's teetering on the line so they don't what the
hell is teetering the book.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
The book is not a full-blown like okay, I got
these two dudes, you know.
Like, because why choose isusually like, the two dudes know
about each other.
They, they going for the samegirl and the girl is like, okay,
well, let's just all be in this.
(11:06):
That's not what my book is, sosomebody cheating, so somebody
cheating.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Oh, I know how to ask some questions to get around
some shit.
That cause what honey?
Okay, let me buckle up myseatbelt right quick.
Okay, so we say we don't getlike, so that mean we're not
gonna even hit any likeman-on-man action because it
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ain't even you already like.
I love a good book.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I mean, hey, who doesn't?
But I felt like they wouldn'thave come back from that.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Nah, ain't no way oh my god, I gotta know, because
when you start when you startbringing that extra person, you
know.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
But I will say there is a throuple in the book.
I can't say no more than thatbecause I can't talk about it.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I will say, though, there is a throuple is it
between the main characters orside characters?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
It's some side characters.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
God damn it, you not giving up shit.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Well, I mean because you know I gotta let the book
come out first and you gottawait all the way until the real
book.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
You already know I ain't the book come out first
and we gotta wait all the wayuntil the real book.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
you already know I ain't too proud to be but I
already I told you send me youremail.
I will send you the art copy.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I'm about to, soon as we hang, soon as we finish this
, I need this in my hands.
Like yesterday I was supposedto start another arc, the
missing girl um that I got frombook influencers.
I don't know if you know aboutbookinfluencerscom, but it's a
place where um and it gave methe option to sign up as, like a
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book influencer or an author.
So I'm guessing you can go onand you can put your book and it
pushes it out to so manydifferent um people who are
signed up for it and you canoffer like different incentives
and stuff.
And then how the website worksis it gives you direct
communication um with theinfluencer and you put your
stipulations in there of likehow you um want it posted, um
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how often you want it posted.
If you want to um offer like anincentive I think the one, uh,
because I got like three of themand look, now I can say I'm a
paid book influencer um the thethings are like really small,
like some of them are like uh 15or 20 dollars um, they give you
if you're some, and then youcan be selective.
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So you get to go on and select,like look at all the different
influencers and stuff thatsigned up to do it, so you can
go look at their pages, look andsee if they actually give
reviews.
I think this helps to weed outthe people who you send arcs to
and they don't leave reviews.
That's so fucking trifling to mebecause if these people send
you a free book and the leastyou can do is leave a review or
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wait if you didn't like it, sothat you know they can still
have a review, but it doesn'tinterfere.
So I think this kind of cutsall of that red tape and stuff
out to kind of, and then if, ifthe um influencer doesn't do
your requirements, I'm thinkingthat they go on the list so at
least you would know okay, thatsounds awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Actually, I'm gonna look into that book influencers
calm.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
So I, if I get my hands on that, I'm gonna put.
I hate to say that, but I'mgonna push this one to the side
for just a second because youknow I eat a book up in a day.
I had did um a guy that I'mgonna get ready to interview.
It was crazy.
Before I came on he must haveseen my um instagram post and he
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messaged and said hey, you dorealize you posted like book two
and I was like I know I alreadyread book one.
I bet you looking like yeah,when it's good or it's messy or
drama, I eat it up like.
I am, I am the mess, I am thedrama so that's why I need my
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hands on this scramble Soon aswe hop off of here.
I'm sending my email over.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
And this one.
This one is only about half aslong.
The Southern Sizzle, I had alot to talk about, but Southern
Scramble, it was more focused,you know.
So it's not as long.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
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I'm gonna go ahead and diveright on in because I want to
get back to this throuple.
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Listen, I ain't gonna say whyare you looking like that
already?
I'm gonna stay in between thelines.
Okay, I ain't gonna stay inbetween the lines.
I ain't going to stay inbetween the lines.
I ain't even going to lie.
So this throuple is there goingto be like some BDSM?
Is there going to be like someprimal play some?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
yes, sir, good girl, I'm going to say I'm going to
say, okay, the throuple is notfor the spice, the throuple is
for the drama.
(17:36):
So not so much with the spicystuff, but when you find out who
the throuple is, you are goingto wish that you didn't know oh
(17:58):
my god, now that you say that,why am I picturing the mom or
the daddy and the girlfriend?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
oh my god, I can't like you know what we don't.
Oh okay, oh, that might be.
(18:31):
I'm jumping.
My mind is jumping toconclusions.
It may not even be dead.
So my, like I said, my mind isjumping to conclusions.
It may not even be.
But why are you looking likethis, selena?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I'm just, I'm listening.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Jesus.
That made me forget my goddamnnext question.
You had to go.
You had to say the sidecharacters.
With the situation, I'mthinking that we finna get like
some nasty kinky.
I ain't gonna lie my mind, bein the gutter and I be getting
ideas from these books.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I mean, I don't.
I would love to write moreSpice than I do, but it's
something in the back of my headthat's like my mama gonna read
this.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Your mama be reading yourself.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yes, she do.
She already read SouthernScramble.
And her exact words Reese is astone hoe.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
See, just from that, I feel like you should have
brought Mama in on thisinterview, but I ain't gonna
Because, mama, I feel like youshould have brought Mama in on
this interview, but I ain'tgoing to.
I ain't going to Because, mama,I want you to elaborate.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Next time.
But you got to read it first.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But your mom said that Reese is a stone hoe.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
She said hoe, not whore.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, hoe Garden tool .
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Mama is my type of lady, because you know there's a
different type of person thatsays hoe and who says whore.
There'll be two different typeof people.
The whore people be so proper.
And those are the pearlclutchers.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
and you know, oh, no, like, like mama, like I know
that if I were to be as spicy asI want to be, my mama might
clutch a pearl, like she'd belike, oh, selena, but see, I
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kind of hold back.
I don't quite take it there now.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Maybe I might in the future, but I just tell mom you
can't read this one because yourwriting is so phenomenal, I
feel like we need, like I wantyou to tap into it so bad.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I mean, I want to, I want to, but it's just it's.
It's something in myself-conscious that's like my
family is the type that if youdo something like like put out a
book, they gonna read Whetheryou ask them to or not.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
And you don't write under a pen name.
Oh, maybe you might have to doa pen name.
I could do a pen name.
That's an idea.
So our nasty books have a penname but we don't tell the
family and then our wholesomebooks that the family can read
be under Selena Brooks.
Because we need the nasty books, we need this much.
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I could just, I could justimagine what you would write if
they didn't know.
And then I was going to ask youabout were there any
reservations about writing?
Like what were the fears?
I was going to say let's breakthat shit down so we can get
this book.
Look at me like I'm dr legslike that.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
You, you, you are giving me a therapy session
right now so, look, do we needto brainstorm pen names?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
because, honey, I could get you a little.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
We can start brainstorming I might have to,
uh, I, I might have to think ofsomething.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Now I understand why people write on their pen names.
You think they will saysomething.
Are they, like, reallyreligious?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
It's not that I just I know that if something makes
them uncomfortable, that they'regoing to tell me that if
something makes themuncomfortable, that they're
gonna tell me.
So it would be like it reflectswhat you do, kind of reflects
on them gotcha that's why weneed a pen name.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yeah, so y'all won't know.
Oh, what if they?
I can't, we can't see, we can'tbe giving away too much,
because then you go.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I could just picture you I got it and I'll keep it
under yes, if they go, we can't.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
We can't even tell people your pen name.
How the hell I'm gonnainterview you under the book?
We're gonna have to talk incircles like we're just coming
I'll wear a mask, the mask.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Author.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
No, mama, you know what?
I have some authors that writeon their pen name.
I'm going to have to ask themnow.
Do you guys want to do adisguise?
You know what?
I actually had an author.
She just had a picture of herown Instead of video, it was a
picture and she didn't showherself because she writes on
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their pen name.
So maybe I'll have to offerlike a Mac, but I missed the
face-to-face interaction and Iwant to see some of her like cuz
I don't know I have.
He exits some off-the-wallstuff and I wanted to see her
facial like you'd be turning redand like I know her and I know
she probably was red as a pebbleon some of the stuff that I
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asked her and I was like now youcould tell me, you know, if she
writes like dirty stuff too,which is another reason why she
goes under the name that shegoes under.
But I feel like I need to redoit where I can at least see her
eyes and I could be.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
She could wear a ski mask.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
That's a TikTok thing .
Have you seen those TikToks,the mask TikTok?
I think it's called mask TikTok.
They be in my feed sometimes.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Well, hey there you go.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I'm going to have to figure that out well I know a
lot of times people will justuse a pen name because they just
don't want or they don't liketheir name.
But I like my name.
So I was told many years ago myname sound like a porn star
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name and I was like, thank you,what the hell?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
who the hell told you that cause what?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
one of my co-workers.
He said that it sound likeeither a stripper name or a porn
star name.
Now I don't watch porn, but nowI gotta go look up.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
He said that it sounds like either a stripper
name or a porn star name.
Now, I don't watch porn, butnow I got to go look up some of
the names of the people becausewhat?
And I want to ask, how do youknow?
Look, we were working, Selena,because we would have had to ask
.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
It was a woman or a man.
Oh, it was a man, of course.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Of course.
I was just going to say ofcourse.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
How do you know that?
Well, I know how you know howmy name sound like a porn star,
how, I guess, because it's it'snot just this the everyday
running the mill name maybe, Idon't know I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
anytime I hear the name selena, I always want to
say Selena.
It's like anything for Selena,like porn star, like the fact
that that was the first thing,that like that's what you think
of Sir.
Maybe that was a hint, selena,like he was trying to.
I have no idea.
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People come on to you differentways.
Are you married?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
No, I'm not, I'm single.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
He may have been shooting his shot.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Nah, he was gay.
He's exempt.
He's exempt.
And before y'all start, ify'all see this, I'm gay too
exempt, he exempt.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
And before y'all start, if y'all see this, I'm
gay too.
So do not try, cause you knowpeople will try and comfort you
over the smallest little shit.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I am gay too he was the sweetest person, but you
know it just wasn't us.
You know his dad wanted me tobe his girlfriend so bad.
But his dad did not know at thetime.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
He was in the closet.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, so yeah, but you know he's happy.
Now he's out and proud.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I know that's right.
Ain't no other way to be Baby.
So last time we were on we gotcut short.
But since we were talking aboutSpice, have you watched me and
Copa?
Yes, why you say it like that?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Because I didn't want to who made you watch?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Who made you watch?
I have been hearing all thehype and stuff about it and,
like I said, I be wanting.
One thing about me is I can'treally like to watch it.
Sometimes Be so cringe to me,but I can read it.
Like to watch it.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Sometimes be so cringe to me, but I can read it
all day, but watching it is justlike well my thing with it is I
feel like I like Tyler Perry,but I feel like he stretches
himself too thin trying to dotoo much.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
But I feel like he stretches himself too thin
trying to do too much and I feellike his work suffers a lot
because of that, and so I tendto stay away from his work, just
because I already know until hechange up his routine it's
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going to be the same thing overand over when I watched Mia, I
said it could have been so muchmore than it was he has great
ideas and I think maybe you wereone's um cure Casey, you, nina
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hi, a few other authors and Iwas like I felt even Octavia
Grant and Caitlin hunt I thinkif you got, if he pulled even
some of these indie authors andwriters and stuff, if you would
have input, because all of thosepeople are like different
ranges, from like thriller todark romance to urban fiction to
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even just black romance andstuff, like he could have took
all of those different peopleand meal could have been so much
Cause it was parts up in therethat should have been elaborated
on.
There are parts that should nothave been up in there.
The scenes what really made mewatch it was the um, the scenes
that everybody was saying waslike oh my god, oh, it was so
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spicy.
It was like.
And then what really made me gowatch it is because I started
seeing people saying, oh, thebook girlies are gonna love this
, the book girlies are to lovethe dark romance aspect and
stuff to it.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
So I ran to it and I was like you know, I wouldn't
have classified that as darkromance Because I don't feel
like he was in control, incontrol of her.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
she was just kind of dumb she really was and he
didn't even have like a.
When I think of dark romanceand stuff, I think of like a
anti-hero, because sometimes alot of times, dark romance and
stuff get misclassified and someof the stuff that, um, people
be saying is dark romance, behorror.
And when I say horror I don'teven mean like scary horror, I
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mean the situations and stuffthat be put up in there like a
lot of the grape sings a lot ofthe grooming, that's not dark
romance.
To me, that is like put that inanother classification.
Now if well, if it's off page,you know, and it's intertwined a
little bit, then that'sdifferent.
But if the majority of the bookis that, that's that dark
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romance yeah, if there's noconsent, that's something else
and I just felt like he wasthere, like he wasn't an
anti-hero, he wasn't coming into do something that we know
that was wrong but is right in asense, because we understand
what he was trying to do, whathe was trying to say.
Like there was none of that,like there was none of that
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aspect up in there.
So I was like, where is thedark romance part?
And then I was like where isthe spice that y'all was talking
about?
It was spicing, it was cringy.
Rolling around in goddamn painty'all wasn't even I ain't.
I can say what I want to sayshoot, wait a minute when that
other lady was there though whatwas?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
that wait which one remember when he had that other
lady there and she was like thenI don't know what that was.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Foolishness, and then it was just like you.
It wasn't any connection of towhat like this is why she was
here.
This happened, it was just likea quick scene.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
It was like shock value, but shock value only work
when you explain it and it wasnot explained, and even the
night.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
did you remember when they showed them, when they
went down to the different rooms?
And it looks like a sex dungeon.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
And they just walked through like they didn't even
that.
They should have elaborated ona little bit more, because you
know, we see that in the booksand stuff with the different
levels and the different phases,like there's a warrior, the
warrior room, and then there's aroom where you can participate,
and then there's a room if youwant to take it a little bit
extra, or you know, like I feellike you should have expected,
(33:03):
but had he brought people in oryou know who write or delve in
that kind of little thing, Ithink it could have been like so
much better than it was.
And then if it was a seriesinstead of a movie or if the
movie was a little bit longer, Ithink it definitely would have
like been out of the park.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
But yeah, and you know he he has really good
concepts, like even the um moviewas a, divorce in black was
like the last one.
I think there the concepts aregreat but the execution is not.
(33:43):
And just for example, like Idon't want to give away no
spoilers, but in mia coppa theymade such a huge deal about this
lady's blood being on his floor, but she's still alive and she
was um, this is gonna be somespoilers she not only was she
(34:05):
alive, but, mia, you saw her ina whole, not another country.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
And then it was like after that we heard nothing else
on it, like she was found noexplanation about she, nothing
and see.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
That's the things that a writer that's really into
the craft will catch, and belike this does not make sense.
We need to make this make sense.
Like it's missing the plot,because I'm like if you don't
spill gallons of your blood onsomebody's float, you are not
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alive, wherever you are.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
And how did you get out Like it wasn't no explain.
You know, normally in the booksif something like this happens,
it's like they explain like howthey took blood, like over time
off of like girl gone when theytook blood when she had been
pumping her blood and stuff likeover time yeah, yeah like.
Get that to show us thatprocess of like, where the blood
was drawn and for it to be thatmuch blood that there's no body
(35:13):
but it's enough blood for theperson not to be alive because
they lost so much.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Show us that process of how or was the blood
tightening and it wasn't all ofher blood like and you know
tyler perry has has this thingwith a murder without a body and
I'm like, do you know how oftenthat does not happen because
you, you cannot.
(35:39):
I mean I can't say you cannot,but it is nearly impossible to
prosecute somebody for murderwithout a body, because how do
you know the person dead?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
And I almost wanted it to be like a double jeopardy
type situation where even if shewas alive and he was tried for
it and stuff, and by somemiracle he got off and got out
on probation, and then he feltlike she popped up again and he
did murder her probation andthen he felt like she popped up
again and he did murder her, buthe couldn't come up, they
couldn't come up with it becauseyou can't be tried for the same
(36:14):
thing twice like I was, like itwas so much that I wanted to
see that just yeah, and and youknow that's why I mean research
is is important, because whenyou're an author, that doesn't
mean that you need to knoweverything.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
You have to reach out to resources Like a lawyer,
perhaps, or a judge that wouldactually know the law and could
explain it to you in a way thatmade sense for whatever story it
is you're trying to write butyou know what I'm wondering,
like he, I'm pretty sure he hasa lot of resources and stuff,
(37:00):
but who else hands did this gothrough?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
or who else screened this?
I wonder, do they have likebeta, like do they have teams
that go in and watch or eitherread like his manuscripts and be
like okay, so we can do expandon this a little bit more.
There's, this plot is missing alittle bit, or like I wonder,
are there teams?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
There ain't no way.
It ain't no way he got a team.
There's no way.
There's no way you had a teamand that is the product that
came out.
There's no way well his.
He got the team of me, tylerperry.
There's no way that that wentthrough multiple hands, unless
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they're afraid to challenge him,maybe see you, you have to come
around from me too.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
And yes, people like if.
That's why I say I always, if Ifuck up and I do something
wrong, like tell me, don't try,don't sugarcoat nothing.
That's why I don't.
I be feeling like when people,when I arc and beta read for
people and I'll be sending backfeedback some, some of the
people that I arc and betterread for I never heard anything
back and I felt like and I like,I know, just like, well, I
(38:19):
guess they that was a bit muchfor him, but I didn't want to
lie and I only want you to giveyour best and I'm giving it to
you from, like, a reader's pointof view, and like this is
missing, or what was the purposeof this?
Because this wasn't mentionedanywhere else, like in the book,
like so what was the purpose ofthis?
Or you just gave this scene andyou you rushed it and like art,
(38:44):
like well, you know what I'lltell you.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Like I'm human.
When somebody say my book suckand they tell me why, my
feelings get hurt.
But but and I'm just, you knowI'm taking it to the extreme.
Yeah, but if somebody tells yousomething Constructive and not
(39:16):
judgmental or Negative, thentake it and learn from it.
Yeah, your feelings gonna behurt, you might be embarrassed,
you might be mad.
Take a day, take a breath andthen move on and learn right,
(39:38):
because I'm not gonna lie.
If you was to read my book andbe like sel Selena, this is
trash.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I would be like oh, I would never tell anybody.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
But then I would come back like, okay, well, what
made it trash and how I need tofix it.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
You know what I would never say because anything.
That's why I never giveanything.
People be like, well, what'syour rating system?
Or anything like that.
If it's a good book, it's agood book, and even if it's
missing a few things, it's agood book, but it was missing a
few things.
I never just called anybody'swork just trash, or I'll be like
it wasn't really entertainingor it wasn't really like
something that I would read likeall the time or I would.
(40:24):
If it's a series, it's notsomething that.
But I wouldn't call it straighttrash because it came from your
mind, your thoughts, it camefrom something you know within
you.
So I would never, you know,call anything trash, but I will
say like, okay, I didn'tunderstand this part or this
happened and we needed more ofit.
You know, just break down.
But I would want somebody likeif somebody saw my podcast or
(40:45):
they came or they looked at anyof my episodes and they'd be
like girl, this shit, a hot messlike you, this is what you need
to do and this is like I'velearned but it took me a minute
because I ain't get this way,you know.
But I've learned to takeconstructive criticism and know
that it's meant to better me andI can tell when it's
(41:07):
constructive criticism andsomebody talking shit.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
So oh yeah I can't.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Like I've learned to differentiate between the two.
Like I say, I have a spabusiness and I have like
business coaches and stuff, so Ican tell the difference of when
somebody's coming from a goodplace and they want to see you
grow.
And that's how I am, when Itell or give my honest reviews
and opinion on things and stuff,and especially when the writing
, when the authors that I'mreading and stuff the right.
(41:32):
First of all, I'm only going toask for ark and beta for you if
it looks like it's a book thatI'm going to enjoy or if I've
read some of your other work, soI kind of know what you capable
of.
So or I've read the synopsis.
Are you giving me the synopsisof what it's about and it sounds
interesting enough for me tocause?
There's some things I'm justlike I don't think that'll be my
cup of tea, but I'll pass italong and I've passed it to
(41:54):
people who may be like thisgenre but, I would never just
like tear some.
But, like I say, I only get myhonest opinions and stuff
because I know that you can dothis shit, know that you can do
this shit and I know, like fromfrom the other stuff that I've
read, or even from reading someof the book, like you need to go
back to this part.
But hey, yeah, everybody don'tlook at it that way.
(42:17):
I get it yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
That's why I say you know, I have to give Tyler Perry
credit.
He has a very creative mind.
He just needs to humble himselfand let people help him make
his vision come true.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Or like you say, people maybe are helping but
they just like, yes, people, andmaybe scared to get on his bad
side or maybe scared to givetheir honest opinion, and you
know.
Yeah, it could be, and you know, yeah, it could be, I don't
know, but I hope 2025 is wherehe brings more fresh stuff.
But like I'm going to supportyou anyway because you're a
(42:57):
black man, you know you're blackand you do it Right, but he
gives opportunities to peoplethat wouldn't necessarily get
one.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Absolutely so you.
You know that's awesome, but ifyou having them in this movie
that is going to get destroyedby critics, it's not going to
help their career.
You're not giving them a fairchance to show what they can do
right, it's like.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
It's like, on one hand, we like what he's doing
and we can see the directionthat he's going in and stuff,
but then I just want him to pullsome of these black indie, like
to just go on black tiktok,just put in not even just black
tiktok, just put in indieauthors.
And pull some of these indieauthors or some of these authors
and get them, get them in on it.
(43:56):
All right, make books out ofsome of these, you know, make
movies and shows out of some ofthese books and stuff that are
out here and start going theirroute.
I would like to see him make abook of some of the books that
I've made, a movie of some ofthe books that I've read.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
I mean, he already did.
They did a great job with Push.
You know when they put Preciousout.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
With Gabrielle Sidibe .
Yes, I didn't know that hedirected.
I didn't know that was his.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
I'm not sure if he was the director or he was a
producer, but I know he wasinvolved.
I did not know that.
And I mean, that was a greatmovie.
It was Oscar winning movie, sohe got he asked other movies or
shows got any Oscars?
Speaker 1 (44:51):
I'm not sure and I would like to see him more.
What is it?
What's the Oscar awards?
Speaker 2 (45:02):
yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
I don't think or.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Academy, academy Awards maybe.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
I don't think.
Or Academy Awards, maybe I'mnot seeing, I'm not seeing.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Because I know he, oprah and Lee Daniels were
involved in that.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
And that's a powerhouse combo in itself.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
You know who I would like to hold deliverance?
Is that Lee Daniels on thisdeliverance movie?
Yeah, I would like to see himand Lee Daniels work a little
bit more together.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
That's an idea, but I think they would probably Butt
heads because they both Wear thesame hats.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
You think so?
Speaker 2 (46:02):
You know, it's like he's a director producer.
He's a director producer.
I think they they probably havetheir own way of doing things
probably, so it probably wouldtake a lot of compromising oh
yeah, definitely.
(46:22):
And you know, when you take abook and turn it into a movie, I
think it's a lot easier to finda vision because you already
have it, you already have thebook, like when you just coming
up with a concept straight fromyour head and putting it into a
(46:45):
movie.
I think that to me that seems alot harder.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
and putting it into a movie I think that to me that
seems a lot harder.
And you know sometimes they whoI hate when I watch the movie
and it's nothing like the damnbook.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
See, that's because the writer probably didn't have
enough say-so, or the writer wasjust like y'all, do whatever
you want.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
I need these writers.
Matter fact, I hope.
I don't know if you read thelist by yomi atagoki or yomi.
I know it's yomi.
I may be pronouncing the lastname wrong, but I know that the
book got picked up to be a tvshow.
I really hope that they havesome say, because I would hate
to see it changed up so much andthe things that we actually
love about it.
And it's not a movie, it'ssupposed to be a series on HBO.
(47:37):
I want to say I read it, it'ssupposed to be a series on HBO,
so I hope they have a lot of sayin the writing part of it,
because I would hate for them tolose that aspect of the book
that we all love our hates forthem to lose that aspect of the
book.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Yeah, and we all love some well, and you know, I
don't really know how the wholeHollywood thing works with books
and rights and all that, but itseems like a lot of the times
somebody with the money and thepower is like okay, I'm gonna
commission this book, which tome means you gonna take it if
you gonna own it and you gonnado what you want with it, and so
(48:19):
it's it.
Really, to me is no wonder thata lot of the times you go and
you see a movie based on a bookand it's nothing like the book
oh goodness, I just feel likeyou wrote this as your baby and
you probably at some point saw avision for it, and I don't.
(48:45):
I look I mean you.
You know it's kind of like theMatrix.
You know there was a blackwoman that wrote the Matrix, but
you would never even know thatbecause they never acknowledge
her in anything.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
I did not know that at all.
I didn't even know the Matrixwas a book.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
She had to sue them and that's why I say you know,
it's like they'll come to youand they offer you this money.
And maybe you're not makingthat much from your book, Maybe
it's not popular, but this onedirector read your book, like
your book, and decide they'regonna make it into a movie.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
all of a sudden it didn't turn into a blockbuster
and they done paid you a hundredthousand dollars and they done
made a hundred million off yourstory since we're on movies and
talking about um book deals,going into movies and shows,
we're going to go to commercialright quick and when we come
(49:53):
back, it's one in particularthat I want to ask you about,
and y'all just stay tuned.
After this commercial break,you already know who I'm about
to say.
Huh, it's been a hell of a booktalk.
Her book is getting picked upinto like a movie.
Netflix has picked it up andnot colleen hoover, no, not her.
(50:18):
Oh, okay, tilly cole.
Oh, have you, have you beenseeing that?
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Mm-mm.
But you know like most of mystuff online is like BIPOC stuff
, so I don't I see some like thebig, big names, like Colleen
Hoover, but like I haven't seenhers.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
It sparks so much controversy, I'm going to bring
us back from commercial break.
Hold on, thank you guys forstaying tuned.
We're going to go ahead andjump back in it.
Controversy I'm gonna bring usback from commercial break.
Hold up, thank you guys forstaying tuned, we're gonna go
ahead and jump back in it.
I don't know if you have heardmiss Alina, but it was a big
thing all over book talk aboutthis one, arthur, who wrote a
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book and the book is now.
I always say don't judge a bookthat you have not read and
don't give it backlash and stuffbecause you haven't read it.
But I say this big.
But I just don't see how youcan romanticize being in a
(51:29):
certain hate group and the malecharacter is in this certain
hate group.
He's like the heir to this, tothe throne, and the female
character is, um, in the Mexicancartel, like the family is in
the Mexican cartel.
So I can't have you seen it onBookTok.
(51:54):
Booktok blew it up.
She got a name.
Is there a name for it?
The book?
Oh, my God, let's go on andpull it when I tell you BookTok,
this is all I have been seeingfor I don't know how long.
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
That sounds like this person is going to be in some
hot water.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
And I have a few of her books on my TBR.
But when I um seen it I wasjust like I don't know if I want
to support her.
And then I was like, well,remember, you said that.
(52:44):
And see as I'm pulling it upand stuff um that.
And and see as I'm pulling itup and stuff um, is it darkness
embrace?
I was like what in the world Ikept seeing what?
That's why I was like booksthat have become like movie
deals and stuff now I had aquestion this hate group does it
(53:07):
start with a k?
Speaker 2 (53:09):
it?
Speaker 1 (53:09):
does and ending two more.
Okay, I don't even want to, Idon't even want to give any more
.
I'm just saying.
I'm just talking about likebooks.
I hope that this is one of thebooks that gets changed up a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
I just don't see romanticizing so the love, he's
the love interest and I'm, andI'm.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
You can only imagine with it being a hate group and
going against.
So is this?
Speaker 2 (53:36):
like, like a romeo juliet type thing.
Is that what this supposed tobe?
Speaker 1 (53:43):
that's what it sound like.
But she got her a movie or ashow, I don't know.
It's gonna be either a movie ora show on netflix and I'm just
like, um, I, I hope this is oneof those that it's changed up a
lot, but when I tell you I justcan't wrap my, like I said, I
always say I'm not gonna judgeanything because I haven't read
(54:05):
it, but it's just well, Ihonestly I have never.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
Well it's, I would probably never watch that anyway
, but I've never heard of acharacter coming from a.
I don't know if I could saythis word, but it starts with an
R, a.
(54:35):
Am I allowed to say that?
Speaker 1 (54:40):
We can say whatever the hell we want.
This is my shit.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
I've never heard of a character coming from a racist
background and being proclaimedas like anything positive.
Like you see movies with racismin it but, the racism is always
(55:05):
, always, always portrayed asnegative, Like you know.
For example, like what's thatmovie American?
I can't even think of it, butthe guy in it was a bald head
(55:31):
okay, yeah and they portrayedhim as like a psycho, like it
wasn't positive at all, like hewasn't in a love, romantic
relationship, there was noredeeming qualities about him.
So I'm like, is he gonna be thein this particular book?
(55:56):
Like that's being made into amovie?
Is he gonna denounce where hecome from, or he just gonna be
in it and crap?
Speaker 1 (56:09):
I'm hoping that if he , if she's gonna put this out,
that it's gonna show him cuttingties and separating from that
and also something positive ofmaybe him realizing that this is
wrong and his family is wrongand the values that that he grew
up on.
Because if you, if you are theheir, you've been hearing this
(56:29):
your whole life and how are weromanticizing this person with
these values?
That's been beat down and I Idon't know, but she's getting,
she got her a deal.
Speaker 2 (56:40):
So like, like it must be some type of twist To it to
where, like you say he's, he'sgonna cut ties or he's gonna
denounce them, and you know Partways, because I'm like there's
no possible way you have anyromance when your love interest
(57:04):
is Racist and you're one of thepeople he is racist against I
like and that don't make senseand I've seen the comments like
oh, but y'all don't say anythingabout the two mafia families.
They are mafia they are bothmafia they are not hate groups.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
They're not hate groups at all.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
They are about money.
I mean, at the end of the day Icould see okay, if you want to
say a criminal organization, butat the end of the day they are
about crime.
They are not about harmingother people purely based on who
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that other person is.
They just want money.
Usually, who doesn't, whodoesn't?
Speaker 1 (58:08):
but yeah, that's one of the things that I wanted to
when we were talking about thedeals like how did you sit down
and pitch this to a room full ofpeople and they okayed and was
like, oh, I think this wouldmake a great movie.
I wonder what that conversationwas like yeah, you know this.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
This kind of sounds like I don't remember the name
of this movie I know I want tosay it was like bleeding hearts
or binding hearts or somethinglike that.
I don't know if it was based ona book, but it was a romance.
Girl was Hispanic, the guy waswhite, he was ex-military and
(58:51):
had PTSD and she was a singerand had diabetes that she
couldn't afford the medication.
She couldn't afford themedication and it was like he
(59:18):
was borderline racist, like someof the things that he said.
I'm like you know this is notfor her to have to change him
into the man she wants him to beLike him.
Saying things like that and herbeing disgusted should have
(59:38):
been the end of the relationship.
Speaker 1 (59:46):
Right Now I'm going to have to go find this movie so
I can see what you know whatI'm gonna google it while we
talk.
I was gonna say send it to me.
Speaker 2 (59:57):
I wanna say it's something hearts, but I'm gonna
find it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
I just don't think I would.
I'd just be running a flop.
Purple Hearts Purple HeartsI've never heard of it.
Yeah, I've never heard of it.
I'm going to have to go andwatch it.
It's a Netflix movie and I'llgive you an update on it.
But I thank you for spendingsome time and dishing.
(01:00:36):
You know what.
I think we may have crossedsome lines today, maybe.
Just I think we started outtame and then it just started
going like shit.
Just got away but hey, it's allgood it is and I'm glad that we
got a platform where we can talkabout it, where we can talk
about it unfiltered and not haveto worry about repercussions or
(01:00:58):
being on somebody else's shitwhere it's filtered or, like I
think we're respectful about it.
We didn't bash her, I was justwondering.
Like I said, I don't want to bea fly on the wall in some of
these rooms of some of the dealsand discussions that were made,
but, like I said, I'm just gladthat we have a platform that we
don't have to be censored on.
Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
That's all good, I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
So next time we're going to have Mama good, I love
it.
So next time we're gonna havemama, that's.
You gotta read it first, though, the fact that mama called her
a hoe, I ain't gonna never leaveit.
I ain't gonna live that down.
Mama called her a hoe.
I can't wait to go and die.
I'm gonna tell you as soon as Iget off of here.
(01:01:45):
I'm about to send you my emailso I can go ahead and get this
art.
I will keep y'all updated and Iwant to say thank you so much
again.
Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Let us know how we can follow you and stay tuned
for what's to come okay, so I amon Facebook under Selena Brooks
, I am on Instagram under Selenaunderscore B underscore the
underscore author and I am onTikTok as Selena B, the author.
Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Thank you so much, Miss Selena.
Until next time, you guys, weare out.
hey y'all.
Hey, you are watching andlistening to licks between the
lines and I am your host licks.
Of course I am.
Before we go ahead and get intoit, let's go ahead and get into
these trigger warnings.
We all know I tried to stay inbetween the line, but sometimes
I tend to cross them.
I don't think I may cross themtoday, but you just never know
(00:24):
how the conversation is gonna go.
Trigger number one there maythere will be custom, there will
be adult language discussed,there will be adult situations
discuss.
There may or may not bementioned of BDSM, because I
have a lot of questions for missSelena today.
So just take this as yourtrigger warning.
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Trigger warning this is thetrigger warning.
So if you decide to continue onwith us, stay tuned.
Without further ado, I'm goingto let my co-host introduce
herself.
This is her second time backwith us.
I'm so excited Her new book isgetting ready to come out, but
(01:10):
I'm gonna let her tell you guysabout it, ok.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Hi everybody.
My name is Selena Brooks.
I am a one time publishedauthor.
My first book is calledSouthern Sizzle and it is out
now.
It's been doing pretty goodMatter of fact.
I was at a recent event andsold eight copies, so that was
(01:37):
pretty good.
My next book, which we'llprobably be discussing's called
southern scramble.
I anticipated to be out thisyear before november 1st or on
november 1st, depending on howlife goes.
So be looking out for that andthank you for having me you are
(02:01):
welcome.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I'm just gonna go ahead and dive in, because even
the southern scramble is aboutreese and her football player.
But before we even get intothat, even though I am not a
football fan, let me see yourshirt.
Let let us see your shirt, okay.
(02:22):
Okay, you got on us, we here,because I'm in Louisiana and you
and Mississippi, so we kind ofknow just college cuz.
Like I said, I'm not even I'mnot a big football fan.
I had a cousin I used to playfor the Saints and he's real old
(02:44):
right now, so Rufus Porter.
But um, why?
Why we playing for the Cowboys?
And I grew up all of my familyare big Saints fans and, like I
say, it could be because ourcousin played for the Saints and
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then he went to the.
It could be because our cousinplayed for the Saints and then
he went to the Dolphins back inthe day or the Seahawks.
Yeah, he went to thosedifferent teams.
But the Cowboys I know enoughfor my family.
The Cowboys I know some ofy'all and listen, if y'all watch
this and try and call for me,just know, I like to go back and
(03:26):
forth in my spare time becauseI see what I see why you make
him play for the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Okay, so boom, when I was writing the story, the
character of Terrence went tothe University of Southern
Mississippi for school and youknow was a standout player, or
(03:54):
whatever you have to be in orderto get drafted.
I was like it just seemed toocoincidental for him to go to
the team that was most likelyhis hometown favorite, or you
(04:14):
know.
Whatever have you?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I don't know why I picked the Cowboys, because I
can't stand the Cowboys and look, this is going to give away
about when we, because I alwaysI batch record and I be telling
people I want to let you followalong on my influencer and
podcast journey.
So sometimes I pre and batchrecord a lot of these episodes.
So just recently the Cowboysand the Saints played.
Who won that game?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
who that?
But I will say I think where itcame from was at the time I was
living in Dallas.
Where it came from was at thetime I was living in Dallas and
I think it just was naturallylike a progression of like.
(05:11):
Okay, I don't, I think it's toocoincidental for him to play
for the Saints, but I'm inDallas, I have access to this
information, so let me make hima cowboy we gonna let you slide
with this.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You skipped over a whole state to get to cowboy
nation.
I ain't gonna hold.
I ain't gonna hold it againstyou.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I will say at least I didn't make him a falcon cause.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
That's blasphemy, you gotta do your, you gotta do
your.
I would never tell us moreabout Terrence in his high well,
(06:11):
not high school, because hewent.
He was from Mississippi, right,right, and then he went to
Southern Miss oh no, no, no, I'msorry he went to.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
He went to college at Southern Miss.
He is actually from Dallas.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Oh, okay, I let him slide.
Since he's from Dallas, I'mgoing to go and let him slide a
little bit, even though he stillcould have went out for the
Saints.
You don't have to play for thehome team.
That made me forget.
Oh, this is what.
I was about to ask when he wasin school, did he have like a
love interest, or are we gonnasee him like a first love or
anything while he's in?
(06:50):
Hot, oh you.
Tight already, she tightalready.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Y'all look at her lips I would say there is some
drama that is revealed from hispast at Southern Miss Involving
a girl.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Oh Lord, it's going to be a secret baby, get your
face, your face turned so red.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
My face is naturally red red.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I'm reddish hued you were extra red.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I match my um, I match the pink right now, but I
would, if I have to answer thatI'm, I'm going to be.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
It's going to be too much tea.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
It's going to be a spoiler.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Because, I'm telling you, this book is 10 times more
dramatic than the first one.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
It's 10 times more dramatic than the first one.
It's ten times more dramaticthan the first one.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I would say the first one is more spicy, like with
the romance, but this one it's alittle bit spicy, but the drama
off the charts.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
And I live for drama Now is is this drama gonna
happen before or after or duringcan you tell us that?
Or during the marriage?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
oh, it's during oh, so they married already well,
you know, at the end of the lastbook.
Well, you know, because youread it, that he proposed.
So the book Southern Scramblepicks up after they're married.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I feel I want to ask is this going to be Reese
getting her karma from all themen that she did?
Why would I ask these questions?
Your face turned the color ofyour headphones.
Oh wait, you like this bitchasking all the good questions
and she ain't gonna be thespoiler of the book no, it's.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I mean it's all good because you know everybody, it
was like everybody hates Chrisbut everybody hates Reese when
first book.
So I wouldn't say this book isher redemption, but I'll say
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that it's a lot that she's goingto gonna go through so it's
hugging her karma.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Perhaps is that give us some trope insights.
What kind of tropes can weexpect?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
um, in this one it almost teeters the line of why
choose?
Because there is a new malelove interest I love a good, why
choose not?
But I would say it just is justteetering.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
It's teetering on the line so they don't what the
hell is teetering the book.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
The book is not a full-blown like okay, I got
these two dudes, you know.
Like, because why choose isusually like, the two dudes know
about each other.
They, they going for the samegirl and the girl is like, okay,
well, let's just all be in this.
(11:06):
That's not what my book is, sosomebody cheating, so somebody
cheating.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Oh, I know how to ask some questions to get around
some shit.
That cause what honey?
Okay, let me buckle up myseatbelt right quick.
Okay, so we say we don't getlike, so that mean we're not
gonna even hit any likeman-on-man action because it
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ain't even you already like.
I love a good book.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I mean, hey, who doesn't?
But I felt like they wouldn'thave come back from that.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Nah, ain't no way oh my god, I gotta know, because
when you start when you startbringing that extra person, you
know.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
But I will say there is a throuple in the book.
I can't say no more than thatbecause I can't talk about it.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I will say, though, there is a throuple is it
between the main characters orside characters?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
It's some side characters.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
God damn it, you not giving up shit.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Well, I mean because you know I gotta let the book
come out first and you gottawait all the way until the real
book.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
You already know I ain't the book come out first
and we gotta wait all the wayuntil the real book.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
you already know I ain't too proud to be but I
already I told you send me youremail.
I will send you the art copy.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I'm about to, soon as we hang, soon as we finish this
, I need this in my hands.
Like yesterday I was supposedto start another arc, the
missing girl um that I got frombook influencers.
I don't know if you know aboutbookinfluencerscom, but it's a
place where um and it gave methe option to sign up as, like a
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book influencer or an author.
So I'm guessing you can go onand you can put your book and it
pushes it out to so manydifferent um people who are
signed up for it and you canoffer like different incentives
and stuff.
And then how the website worksis it gives you direct
communication um with theinfluencer and you put your
stipulations in there of likehow you um want it posted, um
(13:46):
how often you want it posted.
If you want to um offer like anincentive I think the one, uh,
because I got like three of themand look, now I can say I'm a
paid book influencer um the thethings are like really small,
like some of them are like uh 15or 20 dollars um, they give you
if you're some, and then youcan be selective.
(14:07):
So you get to go on and select,like look at all the different
influencers and stuff thatsigned up to do it, so you can
go look at their pages, look andsee if they actually give
reviews.
I think this helps to weed outthe people who you send arcs to
and they don't leave reviews.
That's so fucking trifling to mebecause if these people send
you a free book and the leastyou can do is leave a review or
(14:28):
wait if you didn't like it, sothat you know they can still
have a review, but it doesn'tinterfere.
So I think this kind of cutsall of that red tape and stuff
out to kind of, and then if, ifthe um influencer doesn't do
your requirements, I'm thinkingthat they go on the list so at
least you would know okay, thatsounds awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Actually, I'm gonna look into that book influencers
calm.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
So I, if I get my hands on that, I'm gonna put.
I hate to say that, but I'mgonna push this one to the side
for just a second because youknow I eat a book up in a day.
I had did um a guy that I'mgonna get ready to interview.
It was crazy.
Before I came on he must haveseen my um instagram post and he
(15:18):
messaged and said hey, you dorealize you posted like book two
and I was like I know I alreadyread book one.
I bet you looking like yeah,when it's good or it's messy or
drama, I eat it up like.
I am, I am the mess, I am thedrama so that's why I need my
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hands on this scramble Soon aswe hop off of here.
I'm sending my email over.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
And this one.
This one is only about half aslong.
The Southern Sizzle, I had alot to talk about, but Southern
Scramble, it was more focused,you know.
So it's not as long.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
It's not a bible it's not hold that thought.
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I'm gonna go ahead and diveright on in because I want to
get back to this throuple.
(16:53):
Listen, I ain't gonna say whyare you looking like that
already?
I'm gonna stay in between thelines.
Okay, I ain't gonna stay inbetween the lines.
I ain't going to stay inbetween the lines.
I ain't even going to lie.
So this throuple is there goingto be like some BDSM?
Is there going to be like someprimal play some?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
yes, sir, good girl, I'm going to say I'm going to
say, okay, the throuple is notfor the spice, the throuple is
for the drama.
(17:36):
So not so much with the spicystuff, but when you find out who
the throuple is, you are goingto wish that you didn't know oh
(17:58):
my god, now that you say that,why am I picturing the mom or
the daddy and the girlfriend?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
oh my god, I can't like you know what we don't.
Oh okay, oh, that might be.
(18:31):
I'm jumping.
My mind is jumping toconclusions.
It may not even be dead.
So my, like I said, my mind isjumping to conclusions.
It may not even be.
But why are you looking likethis, selena?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I'm just, I'm listening.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Jesus.
That made me forget my goddamnnext question.
You had to go.
You had to say the sidecharacters.
With the situation, I'mthinking that we finna get like
some nasty kinky.
I ain't gonna lie my mind, bein the gutter and I be getting
ideas from these books.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I mean, I don't.
I would love to write moreSpice than I do, but it's
something in the back of my headthat's like my mama gonna read
this.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Your mama be reading yourself.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yes, she do.
She already read SouthernScramble.
And her exact words Reese is astone hoe.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
See, just from that, I feel like you should have
brought Mama in on thisinterview, but I ain't gonna
Because, mama, I feel like youshould have brought Mama in on
this interview, but I ain'tgoing to.
I ain't going to Because, mama,I want you to elaborate.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Next time.
But you got to read it first.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But your mom said that Reese is a stone hoe.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
She said hoe, not whore.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, hoe Garden tool .
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Mama is my type of lady, because you know there's a
different type of person thatsays hoe and who says whore.
There'll be two different typeof people.
The whore people be so proper.
And those are the pearlclutchers.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
and you know, oh, no, like, like mama, like I know
that if I were to be as spicy asI want to be, my mama might
clutch a pearl, like she'd belike, oh, selena, but see, I
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kind of hold back.
I don't quite take it there now.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Maybe I might in the future, but I just tell mom you
can't read this one because yourwriting is so phenomenal, I
feel like we need, like I wantyou to tap into it so bad.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I mean, I want to, I want to, but it's just it's.
It's something in myself-conscious that's like my
family is the type that if youdo something like like put out a
book, they gonna read Whetheryou ask them to or not.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
And you don't write under a pen name.
Oh, maybe you might have to doa pen name.
I could do a pen name.
That's an idea.
So our nasty books have a penname but we don't tell the
family and then our wholesomebooks that the family can read
be under Selena Brooks.
Because we need the nasty books, we need this much.
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I could just, I could justimagine what you would write if
they didn't know.
And then I was going to ask youabout were there any
reservations about writing?
Like what were the fears?
I was going to say let's breakthat shit down so we can get
this book.
Look at me like I'm dr legslike that.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
You, you, you are giving me a therapy session
right now so, look, do we needto brainstorm pen names?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
because, honey, I could get you a little.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
We can start brainstorming I might have to,
uh, I, I might have to think ofsomething.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Now I understand why people write on their pen names.
You think they will saysomething.
Are they, like, reallyreligious?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
It's not that I just I know that if something makes
them uncomfortable, that they'regoing to tell me that if
something makes themuncomfortable, that they're
gonna tell me.
So it would be like it reflectswhat you do, kind of reflects
on them gotcha that's why weneed a pen name.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yeah, so y'all won't know.
Oh, what if they?
I can't, we can't see, we can'tbe giving away too much,
because then you go.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I could just picture you I got it and I'll keep it
under yes, if they go, we can't.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
We can't even tell people your pen name.
How the hell I'm gonnainterview you under the book?
We're gonna have to talk incircles like we're just coming
I'll wear a mask, the mask.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Author.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
No, mama, you know what?
I have some authors that writeon their pen name.
I'm going to have to ask themnow.
Do you guys want to do adisguise?
You know what?
I actually had an author.
She just had a picture of herown Instead of video, it was a
picture and she didn't showherself because she writes on
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their pen name.
So maybe I'll have to offerlike a Mac, but I missed the
face-to-face interaction and Iwant to see some of her like cuz
I don't know I have.
He exits some off-the-wallstuff and I wanted to see her
facial like you'd be turning redand like I know her and I know
she probably was red as a pebbleon some of the stuff that I
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asked her and I was like now youcould tell me, you know, if she
writes like dirty stuff too,which is another reason why she
goes under the name that shegoes under.
But I feel like I need to redoit where I can at least see her
eyes and I could be.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
She could wear a ski mask.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
That's a TikTok thing .
Have you seen those TikToks,the mask TikTok?
I think it's called mask TikTok.
They be in my feed sometimes.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Well, hey there you go.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I'm going to have to figure that out well I know a
lot of times people will justuse a pen name because they just
don't want or they don't liketheir name.
But I like my name.
So I was told many years ago myname sound like a porn star
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name and I was like, thank you,what the hell?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
who the hell told you that cause what?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
one of my co-workers.
He said that it sound likeeither a stripper name or a porn
star name.
Now I don't watch porn, but nowI gotta go look up.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
He said that it sounds like either a stripper
name or a porn star name.
Now, I don't watch porn, butnow I got to go look up some of
the names of the people becausewhat?
And I want to ask, how do youknow?
Look, we were working, Selena,because we would have had to ask
.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
It was a woman or a man.
Oh, it was a man, of course.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Of course.
I was just going to say ofcourse.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
How do you know that?
Well, I know how you know howmy name sound like a porn star,
how, I guess, because it's it'snot just this the everyday
running the mill name maybe, Idon't know I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
anytime I hear the name selena, I always want to
say Selena.
It's like anything for Selena,like porn star, like the fact
that that was the first thing,that like that's what you think
of Sir.
Maybe that was a hint, selena,like he was trying to.
I have no idea.
(26:24):
People come on to you differentways.
Are you married?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
No, I'm not, I'm single.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
He may have been shooting his shot.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Nah, he was gay.
He's exempt.
He's exempt.
And before y'all start, ify'all see this, I'm gay too
exempt, he exempt.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
And before y'all start, if y'all see this, I'm
gay too.
So do not try, cause you knowpeople will try and comfort you
over the smallest little shit.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I am gay too he was the sweetest person, but you
know it just wasn't us.
You know his dad wanted me tobe his girlfriend so bad.
But his dad did not know at thetime.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
He was in the closet.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, so yeah, but you know he's happy.
Now he's out and proud.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I know that's right.
Ain't no other way to be Baby.
So last time we were on we gotcut short.
But since we were talking aboutSpice, have you watched me and
Copa?
Yes, why you say it like that?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Because I didn't want to who made you watch?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Who made you watch?
I have been hearing all thehype and stuff about it and,
like I said, I be wanting.
One thing about me is I can'treally like to watch it.
Sometimes Be so cringe to me,but I can read it.
Like to watch it.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Sometimes be so cringe to me, but I can read it
all day, but watching it is justlike well my thing with it is I
feel like I like Tyler Perry,but I feel like he stretches
himself too thin trying to dotoo much.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
But I feel like he stretches himself too thin
trying to do too much and I feellike his work suffers a lot
because of that, and so I tendto stay away from his work, just
because I already know until hechange up his routine it's
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going to be the same thing overand over when I watched Mia, I
said it could have been so muchmore than it was he has great
ideas and I think maybe you wereone's um cure Casey, you, nina
(29:12):
hi, a few other authors and Iwas like I felt even Octavia
Grant and Caitlin hunt I thinkif you got, if he pulled even
some of these indie authors andwriters and stuff, if you would
have input, because all of thosepeople are like different
ranges, from like thriller todark romance to urban fiction to
(29:35):
even just black romance andstuff, like he could have took
all of those different peopleand meal could have been so much
Cause it was parts up in therethat should have been elaborated
on.
There are parts that should nothave been up in there.
The scenes what really made mewatch it was the um, the scenes
that everybody was saying waslike oh my god, oh, it was so
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spicy.
It was like.
And then what really made me gowatch it is because I started
seeing people saying, oh, thebook girlies are gonna love this
, the book girlies are to lovethe dark romance aspect and
stuff to it.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
So I ran to it and I was like you know, I wouldn't
have classified that as darkromance Because I don't feel
like he was in control, incontrol of her.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
she was just kind of dumb she really was and he
didn't even have like a.
When I think of dark romanceand stuff, I think of like a
anti-hero, because sometimes alot of times, dark romance and
stuff get misclassified and someof the stuff that, um, people
be saying is dark romance, behorror.
And when I say horror I don'teven mean like scary horror, I
(30:53):
mean the situations and stuffthat be put up in there like a
lot of the grape sings a lot ofthe grooming, that's not dark
romance.
To me, that is like put that inanother classification.
Now if well, if it's off page,you know, and it's intertwined a
little bit, then that'sdifferent.
But if the majority of the bookis that, that's that dark
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romance yeah, if there's noconsent, that's something else
and I just felt like he wasthere, like he wasn't an
anti-hero, he wasn't coming into do something that we know
that was wrong but is right in asense, because we understand
what he was trying to do, whathe was trying to say.
Like there was none of that,like there was none of that
(31:35):
aspect up in there.
So I was like, where is thedark romance part?
And then I was like where isthe spice that y'all was talking
about?
It was spicing, it was cringy.
Rolling around in goddamn painty'all wasn't even I ain't.
I can say what I want to sayshoot, wait a minute when that
other lady was there though whatwas?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
that wait which one remember when he had that other
lady there and she was like thenI don't know what that was.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Foolishness, and then it was just like you.
It wasn't any connection of towhat like this is why she was
here.
This happened, it was just likea quick scene.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
It was like shock value, but shock value only work
when you explain it and it wasnot explained, and even the
night.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
did you remember when they showed them, when they
went down to the different rooms?
And it looks like a sex dungeon.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
And they just walked through like they didn't even
that.
They should have elaborated ona little bit more, because you
know, we see that in the booksand stuff with the different
levels and the different phases,like there's a warrior, the
warrior room, and then there's aroom where you can participate,
and then there's a room if youwant to take it a little bit
extra, or you know, like I feellike you should have expected,
(33:03):
but had he brought people in oryou know who write or delve in
that kind of little thing, Ithink it could have been like so
much better than it was.
And then if it was a seriesinstead of a movie or if the
movie was a little bit longer, Ithink it definitely would have
like been out of the park.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
But yeah, and you know he he has really good
concepts, like even the um moviewas a, divorce in black was
like the last one.
I think there the concepts aregreat but the execution is not.
(33:43):
And just for example, like Idon't want to give away no
spoilers, but in mia coppa theymade such a huge deal about this
lady's blood being on his floor, but she's still alive and she
was um, this is gonna be somespoilers she not only was she
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alive, but, mia, you saw her ina whole, not another country.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
And then it was like after that we heard nothing else
on it, like she was found noexplanation about she, nothing
and see.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
That's the things that a writer that's really into
the craft will catch, and belike this does not make sense.
We need to make this make sense.
Like it's missing the plot,because I'm like if you don't
spill gallons of your blood onsomebody's float, you are not
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alive, wherever you are.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
And how did you get out Like it wasn't no explain.
You know, normally in the booksif something like this happens,
it's like they explain like howthey took blood, like over time
off of like girl gone when theytook blood when she had been
pumping her blood and stuff likeover time yeah, yeah like.
Get that to show us thatprocess of like, where the blood
was drawn and for it to be thatmuch blood that there's no body
(35:13):
but it's enough blood for theperson not to be alive because
they lost so much.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Show us that process of how or was the blood
tightening and it wasn't all ofher blood like and you know
tyler perry has has this thingwith a murder without a body and
I'm like, do you know how oftenthat does not happen because
you, you cannot.
(35:39):
I mean I can't say you cannot,but it is nearly impossible to
prosecute somebody for murderwithout a body, because how do
you know the person dead?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
And I almost wanted it to be like a double jeopardy
type situation where even if shewas alive and he was tried for
it and stuff, and by somemiracle he got off and got out
on probation, and then he feltlike she popped up again and he
did murder her probation andthen he felt like she popped up
again and he did murder her, buthe couldn't come up, they
couldn't come up with it becauseyou can't be tried for the same
(36:14):
thing twice like I was, like itwas so much that I wanted to
see that just yeah, and and youknow that's why I mean research
is is important, because whenyou're an author, that doesn't
mean that you need to knoweverything.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
You have to reach out to resources Like a lawyer,
perhaps, or a judge that wouldactually know the law and could
explain it to you in a way thatmade sense for whatever story it
is you're trying to write butyou know what I'm wondering,
like he, I'm pretty sure he hasa lot of resources and stuff,
(37:00):
but who else hands did this gothrough?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
or who else screened this?
I wonder, do they have likebeta, like do they have teams
that go in and watch or eitherread like his manuscripts and be
like okay, so we can do expandon this a little bit more.
There's, this plot is missing alittle bit, or like I wonder,
are there teams?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
There ain't no way.
It ain't no way he got a team.
There's no way.
There's no way you had a teamand that is the product that
came out.
There's no way well his.
He got the team of me, tylerperry.
There's no way that that wentthrough multiple hands, unless
(37:49):
they're afraid to challenge him,maybe see you, you have to come
around from me too.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
And yes, people like if.
That's why I say I always, if Ifuck up and I do something
wrong, like tell me, don't try,don't sugarcoat nothing.
That's why I don't.
I be feeling like when people,when I arc and beta read for
people and I'll be sending backfeedback some, some of the
people that I arc and betterread for I never heard anything
back and I felt like and I like,I know, just like, well, I
(38:19):
guess they that was a bit muchfor him, but I didn't want to
lie and I only want you to giveyour best and I'm giving it to
you from, like, a reader's pointof view, and like this is
missing, or what was the purposeof this?
Because this wasn't mentionedanywhere else, like in the book,
like so what was the purpose ofthis?
Or you just gave this scene andyou you rushed it and like art,
(38:44):
like well, you know what I'lltell you.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Like I'm human.
When somebody say my book suckand they tell me why, my
feelings get hurt.
But but and I'm just, you knowI'm taking it to the extreme.
Yeah, but if somebody tells yousomething Constructive and not
(39:16):
judgmental or Negative, thentake it and learn from it.
Yeah, your feelings gonna behurt, you might be embarrassed,
you might be mad.
Take a day, take a breath andthen move on and learn right,
(39:38):
because I'm not gonna lie.
If you was to read my book andbe like sel Selena, this is
trash.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I would be like oh, I would never tell anybody.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
But then I would come back like, okay, well, what
made it trash and how I need tofix it.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
You know what I would never say because anything.
That's why I never giveanything.
People be like, well, what'syour rating system?
Or anything like that.
If it's a good book, it's agood book, and even if it's
missing a few things, it's agood book, but it was missing a
few things.
I never just called anybody'swork just trash, or I'll be like
it wasn't really entertainingor it wasn't really like
something that I would read likeall the time or I would.
(40:24):
If it's a series, it's notsomething that.
But I wouldn't call it straighttrash because it came from your
mind, your thoughts, it camefrom something you know within
you.
So I would never, you know,call anything trash, but I will
say like, okay, I didn'tunderstand this part or this
happened and we needed more ofit.
You know, just break down.
But I would want somebody likeif somebody saw my podcast or
(40:45):
they came or they looked at anyof my episodes and they'd be
like girl, this shit, a hot messlike you, this is what you need
to do and this is like I'velearned but it took me a minute
because I ain't get this way,you know.
But I've learned to takeconstructive criticism and know
that it's meant to better me andI can tell when it's
(41:07):
constructive criticism andsomebody talking shit.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
So oh yeah I can't.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Like I've learned to differentiate between the two.
Like I say, I have a spabusiness and I have like
business coaches and stuff, so Ican tell the difference of when
somebody's coming from a goodplace and they want to see you
grow.
And that's how I am, when Itell or give my honest reviews
and opinion on things and stuff,and especially when the writing
, when the authors that I'mreading and stuff the right.
(41:32):
First of all, I'm only going toask for ark and beta for you if
it looks like it's a book thatI'm going to enjoy or if I've
read some of your other work, soI kind of know what you capable
of.
So or I've read the synopsis.
Are you giving me the synopsisof what it's about and it sounds
interesting enough for me tocause?
There's some things I'm justlike I don't think that'll be my
cup of tea, but I'll pass italong and I've passed it to
(41:54):
people who may be like thisgenre but, I would never just
like tear some.
But, like I say, I only get myhonest opinions and stuff
because I know that you can dothis shit, know that you can do
this shit and I know, like fromfrom the other stuff that I've
read, or even from reading someof the book, like you need to go
back to this part.
But hey, yeah, everybody don'tlook at it that way.
(42:17):
I get it yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
That's why I say you know, I have to give Tyler Perry
credit.
He has a very creative mind.
He just needs to humble himselfand let people help him make
his vision come true.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Or like you say, people maybe are helping but
they just like, yes, people, andmaybe scared to get on his bad
side or maybe scared to givetheir honest opinion, and you
know.
Yeah, it could be, and you know, yeah, it could be, I don't
know, but I hope 2025 is wherehe brings more fresh stuff.
But like I'm going to supportyou anyway because you're a
(42:57):
black man, you know you're blackand you do it Right, but he
gives opportunities to peoplethat wouldn't necessarily get
one.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Absolutely so you.
You know that's awesome, but ifyou having them in this movie
that is going to get destroyedby critics, it's not going to
help their career.
You're not giving them a fairchance to show what they can do
right, it's like.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
It's like, on one hand, we like what he's doing
and we can see the directionthat he's going in and stuff,
but then I just want him to pullsome of these black indie, like
to just go on black tiktok,just put in not even just black
tiktok, just put in indieauthors.
And pull some of these indieauthors or some of these authors
and get them, get them in on it.
(43:56):
All right, make books out ofsome of these, you know, make
movies and shows out of some ofthese books and stuff that are
out here and start going theirroute.
I would like to see him make abook of some of the books that
I've made, a movie of some ofthe books that I've read.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
I mean, he already did.
They did a great job with Push.
You know when they put Preciousout.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
With Gabrielle Sidibe .
Yes, I didn't know that hedirected.
I didn't know that was his.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
I'm not sure if he was the director or he was a
producer, but I know he wasinvolved.
I did not know that.
And I mean, that was a greatmovie.
It was Oscar winning movie, sohe got he asked other movies or
shows got any Oscars?
Speaker 1 (44:51):
I'm not sure and I would like to see him more.
What is it?
What's the Oscar awards?
Speaker 2 (45:02):
yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
I don't think or.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Academy, academy Awards maybe.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
I don't think.
Or Academy Awards, maybe I'mnot seeing, I'm not seeing.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Because I know he, oprah and Lee Daniels were
involved in that.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
And that's a powerhouse combo in itself.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
You know who I would like to hold deliverance?
Is that Lee Daniels on thisdeliverance movie?
Yeah, I would like to see himand Lee Daniels work a little
bit more together.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
That's an idea, but I think they would probably Butt
heads because they both Wear thesame hats.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
You think so?
Speaker 2 (46:02):
You know, it's like he's a director producer.
He's a director producer.
I think they they probably havetheir own way of doing things
probably, so it probably wouldtake a lot of compromising oh
yeah, definitely.
(46:22):
And you know, when you take abook and turn it into a movie, I
think it's a lot easier to finda vision because you already
have it, you already have thebook, like when you just coming
up with a concept straight fromyour head and putting it into a
(46:45):
movie.
I think that to me that seems alot harder.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
and putting it into a movie I think that to me that
seems a lot harder.
And you know sometimes they whoI hate when I watch the movie
and it's nothing like the damnbook.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
See, that's because the writer probably didn't have
enough say-so, or the writer wasjust like y'all, do whatever
you want.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
I need these writers.
Matter fact, I hope.
I don't know if you read thelist by yomi atagoki or yomi.
I know it's yomi.
I may be pronouncing the lastname wrong, but I know that the
book got picked up to be a tvshow.
I really hope that they havesome say, because I would hate
to see it changed up so much andthe things that we actually
love about it.
And it's not a movie, it'ssupposed to be a series on HBO.
(47:37):
I want to say I read it, it'ssupposed to be a series on HBO,
so I hope they have a lot of sayin the writing part of it,
because I would hate for them tolose that aspect of the book
that we all love our hates forthem to lose that aspect of the
book.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Yeah, and we all love some well, and you know, I
don't really know how the wholeHollywood thing works with books
and rights and all that, but itseems like a lot of the times
somebody with the money and thepower is like okay, I'm gonna
commission this book, which tome means you gonna take it if
you gonna own it and you gonnado what you want with it, and so
(48:19):
it's it.
Really, to me is no wonder thata lot of the times you go and
you see a movie based on a bookand it's nothing like the book
oh goodness, I just feel likeyou wrote this as your baby and
you probably at some point saw avision for it, and I don't.
(48:45):
I look I mean you.
You know it's kind of like theMatrix.
You know there was a blackwoman that wrote the Matrix, but
you would never even know thatbecause they never acknowledge
her in anything.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
I did not know that at all.
I didn't even know the Matrixwas a book.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
She had to sue them and that's why I say you know,
it's like they'll come to youand they offer you this money.
And maybe you're not makingthat much from your book, Maybe
it's not popular, but this onedirector read your book, like
your book, and decide they'regonna make it into a movie.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
all of a sudden it didn't turn into a blockbuster
and they done paid you a hundredthousand dollars and they done
made a hundred million off yourstory since we're on movies and
talking about um book deals,going into movies and shows,
we're going to go to commercialright quick and when we come
(49:53):
back, it's one in particularthat I want to ask you about,
and y'all just stay tuned.
After this commercial break,you already know who I'm about
to say.
Huh, it's been a hell of a booktalk.
Her book is getting picked upinto like a movie.
Netflix has picked it up andnot colleen hoover, no, not her.
(50:18):
Oh, okay, tilly cole.
Oh, have you, have you beenseeing that?
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Mm-mm.
But you know like most of mystuff online is like BIPOC stuff
, so I don't I see some like thebig, big names, like Colleen
Hoover, but like I haven't seenhers.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
It sparks so much controversy, I'm going to bring
us back from commercial break.
Hold on, thank you guys forstaying tuned.
We're going to go ahead andjump back in it.
Controversy I'm gonna bring usback from commercial break.
Hold up, thank you guys forstaying tuned, we're gonna go
ahead and jump back in it.
I don't know if you have heardmiss Alina, but it was a big
thing all over book talk aboutthis one, arthur, who wrote a
(51:03):
book and the book is now.
I always say don't judge a bookthat you have not read and
don't give it backlash and stuffbecause you haven't read it.
But I say this big.
But I just don't see how youcan romanticize being in a
(51:29):
certain hate group and the malecharacter is in this certain
hate group.
He's like the heir to this, tothe throne, and the female
character is, um, in the Mexicancartel, like the family is in
the Mexican cartel.
So I can't have you seen it onBookTok.
(51:54):
Booktok blew it up.
She got a name.
Is there a name for it?
The book?
Oh, my God, let's go on andpull it when I tell you BookTok,
this is all I have been seeingfor I don't know how long.
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
That sounds like this person is going to be in some
hot water.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
And I have a few of her books on my TBR.
But when I um seen it I wasjust like I don't know if I want
to support her.
And then I was like, well,remember, you said that.
(52:44):
And see as I'm pulling it upand stuff um that.
And and see as I'm pulling itup and stuff um, is it darkness
embrace?
I was like what in the world Ikept seeing what?
That's why I was like booksthat have become like movie
deals and stuff now I had aquestion this hate group does it
(53:07):
start with a k?
Speaker 2 (53:09):
it?
Speaker 1 (53:09):
does and ending two more.
Okay, I don't even want to, Idon't even want to give any more
.
I'm just saying.
I'm just talking about likebooks.
I hope that this is one of thebooks that gets changed up a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
I just don't see romanticizing so the love, he's
the love interest and I'm, andI'm.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
You can only imagine with it being a hate group and
going against.
So is this?
Speaker 2 (53:36):
like, like a romeo juliet type thing.
Is that what this supposed tobe?
Speaker 1 (53:43):
that's what it sound like.
But she got her a movie or ashow, I don't know.
It's gonna be either a movie ora show on netflix and I'm just
like, um, I, I hope this is oneof those that it's changed up a
lot, but when I tell you I justcan't wrap my, like I said, I
always say I'm not gonna judgeanything because I haven't read
(54:05):
it, but it's just well, Ihonestly I have never.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
Well it's, I would probably never watch that anyway
, but I've never heard of acharacter coming from a.
I don't know if I could saythis word, but it starts with an
R, a.
(54:35):
Am I allowed to say that?
Speaker 1 (54:40):
We can say whatever the hell we want.
This is my shit.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
I've never heard of a character coming from a racist
background and being proclaimedas like anything positive.
Like you see movies with racismin it but, the racism is always
(55:05):
, always, always portrayed asnegative, Like you know.
For example, like what's thatmovie American?
I can't even think of it, butthe guy in it was a bald head
(55:31):
okay, yeah and they portrayedhim as like a psycho, like it
wasn't positive at all, like hewasn't in a love, romantic
relationship, there was noredeeming qualities about him.
So I'm like, is he gonna be thein this particular book?
(55:56):
Like that's being made into amovie?
Is he gonna denounce where hecome from, or he just gonna be
in it and crap?
Speaker 1 (56:09):
I'm hoping that if he , if she's gonna put this out,
that it's gonna show him cuttingties and separating from that
and also something positive ofmaybe him realizing that this is
wrong and his family is wrongand the values that that he grew
up on.
Because if you, if you are theheir, you've been hearing this
(56:29):
your whole life and how are weromanticizing this person with
these values?
That's been beat down and I Idon't know, but she's getting,
she got her a deal.
Speaker 2 (56:40):
So like, like it must be some type of twist To it to
where, like you say he's, he'sgonna cut ties or he's gonna
denounce them, and you know Partways, because I'm like there's
no possible way you have anyromance when your love interest
(57:04):
is Racist and you're one of thepeople he is racist against I
like and that don't make senseand I've seen the comments like
oh, but y'all don't say anythingabout the two mafia families.
They are mafia they are bothmafia they are not hate groups.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
They're not hate groups at all.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
They are about money.
I mean, at the end of the day Icould see okay, if you want to
say a criminal organization, butat the end of the day they are
about crime.
They are not about harmingother people purely based on who
(57:53):
that other person is.
They just want money.
Usually, who doesn't, whodoesn't?
Speaker 1 (58:08):
but yeah, that's one of the things that I wanted to
when we were talking about thedeals like how did you sit down
and pitch this to a room full ofpeople and they okayed and was
like, oh, I think this wouldmake a great movie.
I wonder what that conversationwas like yeah, you know this.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
This kind of sounds like I don't remember the name
of this movie I know I want tosay it was like bleeding hearts
or binding hearts or somethinglike that.
I don't know if it was based ona book, but it was a romance.
Girl was Hispanic, the guy waswhite, he was ex-military and
(58:51):
had PTSD and she was a singerand had diabetes that she
couldn't afford the medication.
She couldn't afford themedication and it was like he
(59:18):
was borderline racist, like someof the things that he said.
I'm like you know this is notfor her to have to change him
into the man she wants him to beLike him.
Saying things like that and herbeing disgusted should have
(59:38):
been the end of the relationship.
Speaker 1 (59:46):
Right Now I'm going to have to go find this movie so
I can see what you know whatI'm gonna google it while we
talk.
I was gonna say send it to me.
Speaker 2 (59:57):
I wanna say it's something hearts, but I'm gonna
find it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
I just don't think I would.
I'd just be running a flop.
Purple Hearts Purple HeartsI've never heard of it.
Yeah, I've never heard of it.
I'm going to have to go andwatch it.
It's a Netflix movie and I'llgive you an update on it.
But I thank you for spendingsome time and dishing.
(01:00:36):
You know what.
I think we may have crossedsome lines today, maybe.
Just I think we started outtame and then it just started
going like shit.
Just got away but hey, it's allgood it is and I'm glad that we
got a platform where we can talkabout it, where we can talk
about it unfiltered and not haveto worry about repercussions or
(01:00:58):
being on somebody else's shitwhere it's filtered or, like I
think we're respectful about it.
We didn't bash her, I was justwondering.
Like I said, I don't want to bea fly on the wall in some of
these rooms of some of the dealsand discussions that were made,
but, like I said, I'm just gladthat we have a platform that we
don't have to be censored on.
Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
That's all good, I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
So next time we're going to have Mama good, I love
it.
So next time we're gonna havemama, that's.
You gotta read it first, though, the fact that mama called her
a hoe, I ain't gonna never leaveit.
I ain't gonna live that down.
Mama called her a hoe.
I can't wait to go and die.
I'm gonna tell you as soon as Iget off of here.
(01:01:45):
I'm about to send you my emailso I can go ahead and get this
art.
I will keep y'all updated and Iwant to say thank you so much
again.
Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Let us know how we can follow you and stay tuned
for what's to come okay, so I amon Facebook under Selena Brooks
, I am on Instagram under Selenaunderscore B underscore the
underscore author and I am onTikTok as Selena B, the author.
Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Thank you so much, Miss Selena.
Until next time, you guys, weare out.
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