January 15, 2025 • 31 mins
This episode features an engaging conversation with debut author B. Bewtie, who explores her unique experiences in the creative process and the emotional connections within her storytelling. Bee shares her journey of writing her debut novel, which touches upon themes of identity, resilience, and community support.
• Introduction of B. Bewtie and her debut novel
• Exploration of LGBTQIA representation in characters
• Discussion on character inspiration from real life
• The impact of trauma and mental health on writing
• The journey of editing and publishing her book
• Importance of community in indie publishing
• Future plans and potential sequels for her stories
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
you, hey, y'all, hey, you are watching and listening
to legs between the lines and Iam your host licks and I am so
excited about today.
But before we get into it,let's go over the triggers.
I try to stay in between thelines for the most part, but
sometimes I cross them, leadingto the triggers.
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There may or may not be, um,explicit adult language.
There may or may not be sexualcontent discussed, maybe in
detail, maybe not there.
Um, we will be talking about um, maybe, and I'm just throwing
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these triggers out there, sothere are no surprises, because
what comes up comes out.
Sometimes we don't know wherethe conversation takes us, but
there will be talk of lgbtqi, a2beauty, lgbtqia.
There will be talk of A2 Beauty, lgbtqia.
There will be talk Of amiscarriage Um.
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There will be talk of Was it?
There may be talk of abuse, butnot extra like into detail, but
I'm just throwing these triggerwarnings Out there just in case
you have any triggers.
If you are still rocking withus at this point, then go ahead
and get ready so that we can letour co-host introduce herself.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Hi everybody.
My name is Bee Beauty.
I am an author.
I just put out my first debutbook called Divine Intervention.
I am excited to be here withFlex just to sit down and talk
with her chat a bit about thisbook and other things.
But, like she said, there aresome things that may make people
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uncomfortable.
So if you are uncomfortable, Iguess I apologize in advance um,
and I hate to.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I hate to say it because, like I said, you just
never know what direction theconversation is going to go in
um, and we want everything to beauthentic and um, authentic and
um, I'm ready to dive in if youare.
Yes, ma'am, because I I gotquestions, but the the thing
that's sitting on the forefrontof my mind, this is this, like
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because, on pay, and let me justsay this, you said this is your
debut.
Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
This is my new novel.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
This was your first published work.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
And you came out the gate swinging on page one.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, you know, I just I hear a lot of people talk
about like, about slow burnsand stuff like that, how
sometimes they enjoy slow burnsbut sometimes they just want you
to get right into it.
As my debut, I just wanted topop on and be like hi guys.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
You didn't say hi.
You said what's the movie withthe guy who's a doctor?
He's saying hello motherfuckers.
That's what you did.
You said hello motherfuckers.
I was not, and first of all, Inever.
I'm like I don't know what'sbeen going on with me, but I've
been going into books blind so Ididn't really know like what to
expect.
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So, off the get go, I was like,oh, this is what we're doing.
This is what we're doing and Iwant to tell y'all.
But I don't want to tell y'allBecause I want you to be
surprised, like I was.
And I have read some bookswhere it started off with it,
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but not like this, where itliterally she walked into it.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, I just wanted to.
First of all, I was verynervous about releasing the book
in general, until the point,like up to the last moment, I
almost did not.
The last moment, I almost didnot, and so I just wanted to
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make it something that peoplewould really, really enjoy
reading.
I felt like people always start, or the same things always
happen in a book he meets her,she meets him, they look at each
other googly-eyed and they fallin love.
Blah, blah, blah.
So I just wanted something justa little.
I just wanted something alittle bit different, just a
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little bit different.
I I think I might have wentextremely different, but I just
wanted something a little bitdifferent, that's all and then
you introduced us to thisredhead, this big, and then your
characters were they weren'tthese little.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Oh, now, they were Godlike, but you know how the
descriptions go like a littleGreek, but they were the big
ones, yes, yes, they weren't thelittle model types, they were
bodybuilders.
Yeah, yeah.
I said, oh, she didn't open upa whole different can of work.
I was like she went in.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah with this book.
Okay, so I model all of themale after men who are in my
life.
Um, I'll accept flan.
Um, I always said that I wouldnever date outside of my race.
But if I went, never dateoutside of my race.
But if I went to date outside ofmy race, Flynn would be exactly
who I would date.
Okay, so you know, I just wentin and I put in exactly what I
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thought that he should look likeand it took me a couple of
tries to get to what he actuallylooked like in the character
depiction that I have of him.
But when I finally got to thatI was like, yeah, Exactly what
he needs to look like, rightthere.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
You actually answered one of the questions I was
going to ask you.
I was going to ask about thecharacters.
Are they based, or anysimilarities or characteristics
of people in your real life orpeople that you know?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
So A lot of the Things that happen In the book
and a lot of the people in thebook Are based off of real
people.
It's not exact To real people,but there are some Real pointers
in there.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yes, so somebody is real, somebody got them three
beasts.
Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Somebody has those three hellhounds.
Actually, they actually havemore than that, but I just
decided to go with three.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
But yes, they have more than the three and they're
the same type dogs, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yes, chow with three, but yes, they have more than
the three and they're the sametype dogs.
Yes, I actually got the reallife depiction of those dogs.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I got them from the, from the actual owner of the
cane corsos so, yes, did you getthe names too, did you use the
names too?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
or is that the names?
No no, I didn't.
So I tried, I tried to steeraway from as much of real life
as I could, because also, um,I'm very big about respecting
privacy and so I didn't want anyuh, uh, unwanted attention
drawn to him.
(08:03):
Um, so I did give him credit inthe pictures, but you have to
look like, you have to squint inthe pictures to see, like, his
information.
But you know, I did do that, uh, as a thanks to him for letting
me, um, have his dogs as models.
But yes, there are, those dogsreally do belong to somebody, um
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, one of my family membersactually, and they are real dogs
.
He got some vicious beast, butyou know what?
They are not that vicious, theyare the sweetest dogs ever.
They just look like they'll ripyou apart but they are until he
gives the command.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Well, also.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yes, that is also real life, until he gives the
command.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yes, and I was.
I said I said I'm so goddamnnosy and I said I know it's
probably coming, but I was likewho was this man that gave her
these dogs and then train thesedogs up for her?
I was like, let me tell yousomething.
I like I can't wrap my mind.
I said this is your debut book.
And then I'm like there's likethere has got to be a series.
(09:07):
When I got to the end I waslike like where's the rest of it
?
Like there.
And then you, I'm the type ofperson where I know they have,
we have the main characters, butwhen you write the hell out of
a side character and my focusjust kind of hones in on the
side characters, yes, yes,because best friend and even
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flan listen, I, I, I love sidecharacters okay.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
So like I feel like a lot of the time side characters
are not represented enough in abook and I feel like their
stories are never told orthey're just made interesting
enough for you to get throughthe book.
But I feel like sometimes sadcharacters don't really get the
play.
But they be the most fun, theybe the most fun part of the book
.
Like Big, for example,everybody is in love with you,
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everybody is in love with thatman and everybody cannot wait
until his story comes out.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Everybody keep asking me if Flander Everly are going
to have a book, if Bianca andBig are going to have a book,
because they're like, come on,we need to know some more about
these two.
But I'm just like you know, Idon't know.
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Wait, that's what you're going to give us.
You don't know, maybe wait,wait that's what you're gonna
give us.
You don't know, maybe I don'tknow, maybe you just crushed.
You just crushed it.
Y'all be out, arthur's, bedoing like, just be like.
You hit me, like right here,because what?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I'm sorry.
Yeah, like okay, so I have to.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I don't know, maybe and I ain't gonna lie for a
minute.
I thought we was gonna do likea little reverse of why choose,
with plan and divine and my girl.
I thought we was gonna have alittle triangle situation going
on.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I started to do that, but then I was like I don't
want her to just jump into awatch you situation after what
she went through in New Jersey,right, because I didn't want it
to seem like she was not wellactually she wasn't seeking any
type of romantic anything withanybody that's happened.
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But I also didn't want it to belike she was using them, as you
know, like rebounds or you know, like they were just something
that she could do to pass thetime.
I really wanted her to beredeemed and have something that
she could hold on to.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
So I started to do that, but then I was like no,
I'll just let you know, I'lljust let Flan be a best friend
to both of them and I don't knowif you meant it or not, but
Flan had so much chemistry withher and that's why I thought I
was like I said I don't know ifyou meant it or, but it was just
so freaking natural, like itwasn't forced or anything.
I was like the chemistry.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I was like or is she gonna choose like one or the
other one, cause I didn't knowwhich way you were going to go
with it and, to be honest withyou, when I started writing, I
started to do a white shoe, butas I kept writing, I just didn't
want to.
So I let them be best friendsand I felt like you know her,
coming into this new place,that's what she needed.
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Before she needed anything elsewas a friend.
Before she needed anything elsewas a friend.
After all that she had endured,I felt like her having a friend
and her letting her see thatall men are not assholes, or all
men are not, you know trash,but yes, a man can't actually be
there from you, for you andgenuinely not want anything in
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return and that was going tobring me to my next question of
like how do you incorporate thetrauma in your stories and like,
what kind?
but it seems like it just kindof it come, it just comes to you
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along with was just like youknow, let her experience this
exuberant heartbreak, but thenalso let her gain way more than
what she lost, you know.
Gain way more than what shelost, you know.
(13:33):
So it just I was, I didn't likesit down and plot the story.
I was like, yeah, I'm gonnamake her do this and make him do
that and make them meet this.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Like it just sort of came as I was writing the story
that's natural, like the likethe whole book was, just it just
flowed.
You know how sometimes you canread some things and it's like
it's a bit like it's too.
It's not that it's too much,but it doesn't seem like it was
just like genuine or natural.
Like you, like you try, likeyou can we can tell you're
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trying, but it flow.
It's just like from thebeginning, when all of the chaos
and I was like girl, tap somestuff up, break, break some
stuff, but everything just likeflow from the beginning of her
catch, catching the ad to hermoving and going to the hotel to
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meet in divine, and like itjust was, like most of the time
people start you off really slowand then they build you up to
the excitement and I felt like Iwanted to do something
different.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I wanted to knock you out First off time people start
you off really slow and thenthey build you up to the
excitement and I feel like Iwanted to do something different
.
I wanted to knock you out firstoff and take you on this wild
roller coaster ride and then atthe end just sort of kind of
give you like a soft touch.
But that's why the end cameabout the way it did, because I
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didn't want the whole book tojust be like nerve-wracking.
And then people were God, thatbook just took me through so
much I couldn't concentrate onanything.
So I just wanted it to be likea really fast rollercoaster ride
.
And then you know, like rightat the end of the rollercoaster
ride, when it slows down andit's about to stop.
So that's kind of what I wasaiming for.
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I hope I shot my shot right.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
You did.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Have you taken, like any writing classes or I've
never taken any writing classesin my life.
I've just always been a fan ofwords.
My mom is like really really,really smart, and my mom taught
me how to read at two and a half, and my mom taught me how to
read at two and a half, and somy fascination for words came
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from my mom, and I've justalways been able to put words
together very well.
A lot of people thought that Iwas going to be an English major
when I went to college, but no,I'm actually.
I was actually a biology major,but that's the end of it.
But no, I've just always beenlike a really big fan of words.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Me and one of my sisters joke about.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I call myself a word whore, but I just love it.
That's a t-shirt.
Okay, I'm probably going to get.
I'm probably going to getsomebody to put it on Hashtag
word whore.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yes, we're gonna hold that.
Thought we're gonna go tocommercial really quick.
But when we come back we aregoing to talk about.
How did you become a writer?
Okay, so I am excited aboutthat.
You guys stay tuned.
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And we are back with thequestion.
Miss Beauty, how did you?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
become a writer, or what did that process look like
for you?
How did I become a writer?
You know, this is the funnything I still do not consider
myself a writer.
That's the funny thing.
I just love to tell a goodstory.
I'll call myself a storytellerbefore I will a writer, but I
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actually became a writer byaccident.
It was sheer coincidence that Ibecame a writer.
It was actually an exercisethat my therapist offered to me
versus sitting in sessions notsaying anything, and at first
when I started I thought it wasgoing to be stupid, but it
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actually did really help me.
So I think I do my best writingwhen I'm under pressure.
I often view myself as beinglike a piece of coal being
turned into a diamond.
So, like, the more pressure youput me under, the better I'm
going to write oh, I love that.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, did this story happen to stem from a session or
?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
so this story is actually okay.
You're going to laugh, or maybeyou won't laugh, but I also
suffer from insomnia.
So this story was writtenprobably 86% while I was sleepy.
I was asleep when I submittedthe book over to my editor and
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she sent it back.
I was like did I write this ordid you change something in
there?
She was like I didn't changeanything.
That's not my job, you wrote it.
And I was like are you sure?
Because I don't remember.
I don't remember writing thatbut, this story came from a lot
of I call it sleep writing.
This story was sleep written,so wait cuz you like what yes,
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yes, this, a lot of this story,was written while I was sleepy,
or very much on the edge of oneasleep.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I forgot what the hell I was.
Finna say.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yes, I wrote the story that way.
I'm just trying to wrap my.
My brain is trying to processthis.
Did you do it on a phone, alaptop?
How did you get this story?
Was it in a notebook?
How did?
You get this story.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
A lot of this story was written on my iPad and then
transferred over to my desktopand then okay.
So a lot of this story.
This story started off onWebPad.
This story started off onWebPad.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
And I had never heard of what pad until book talk,
all of the yep, all of the, andI was like what the heck is that
?
Everybody's like, oh, I used tofollow her on what pad?
I used to follow her and I'mlike, what is that?
What is that?
And then there's like, oh, it'sa um site and I obviously it's
like good novel or rated, or adream.
And I was like, oh, I just a umand I obviously it's like good
novel or I read it or a dream.
And I was like, oh, I justnever heard of that, of that
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particular one yeah, I, I juststarted with it.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I have several stories on what that actually,
but yes, this is one of the onesI started writing on what and
what.
That is a great.
It's like a great writing toolif you want to just like see
where your writing is gonna gowith the scene.
What Pat is great for that isit it like?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
is it like?
The paper chapter story is oneof those right.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
So some sometimes it is, and then some of the stories
you can read for free.
I made all of my stories sothat you can read them for free.
It wasn't that deep for me, butsome I like some authors up
there are really serious aboutwhat you have to pay by episode
or pay for the entire book.
But it wasn't that deep for me.
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I was just actually foolingaround.
There's so many grammaticalmistakes out there and it's
terribly written on webpack butnonetheless it was written there
.
It started out there.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
In your sleep.
Look at my damn vein coming out, because my mind is confused
Like what.
Look at my brain, don't beconfused.
Don't let your mind be confusedhey, it's, you did it and
you're do you like.
Do you take medication?
Is there medication forinsomnia?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
um, you can take sleep aids, but I don't like to
take sleep aids.
I like to just kind of let mybody fall asleep when it does,
because sometimes they can worktoo good, and then you sleep
half a day and then wedefinitely don't want that yeah,
then you just get.
Then you wake up and you'restill more tired than you were
when you went to sleep, so Ijust let my body fall asleep
when it's tired um.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Another question I wanted to ask was um, is there a
community or do you have help,like, with editing, publishing?
I know you say you had a editor, so can you tell us a little
bit about like, that process oflike, the whole turnabout of
like, or the process that thebook went through?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
yes.
So I went through so much withediting my book, with just
finding the right editor, almostlost like hundreds of dollars
with editing.
But then I found this amazinggroup of women it's seven of us
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but one of them just so happenedto be a developmental editor
and I went to her and I was justlike I'm about to cry because
my book was supposed to bereleased in like two weeks and
the editor hadn't done anything.
And then she stopped calling,she stopped texting, she stopped
communicating with mealtogether.
Um, and so I was just like Idon't know what to do.
(23:03):
Um, and that's at the point whenI was just about to just like
maybe it's not for me to putthis book out.
But then she was like send itto me, like it wasn't a second
thought or anything like that,and I was just like are you
serious?
She was like, yeah, send it tome.
And what was supposed to take amonth?
(23:26):
She finished in literally likenine days in order for my book
what I'm out on time yeah didyou get your money back from the
other editor?
I did.
I went, I had to go throughlike my bank and all that stuff,
but yeah, I did and so but andso, but yeah, I didn't know what
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I was going to do and like sheliterally came in with the Hail
Mary.
I'm not even going to lie andyou know, like I said, I became
part of this community, theBoozy Book Baddies.
I love those girls to piecesand they are literally a
one-stop shop.
There's authors there, there'snarrators there, there's
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developmental editors there,there's mentors there, there's
spiritual guidance there, likeanything that you need as far as
writing is concerned.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I don't think you can't find it with those girls
is that the name of the group onfacebook or the?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
so, yes, uh, we do officially have a page on tiktok
called okay, please go, followus, and a lot of the information
that people want you to payhundreds and hundreds of dollars
for.
We offer up for free becauseit's not, it's not that deep for
us.
It's about helping each other,especially in the Black
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community or in the BIPOCcommunity also, so we enjoy
helping other people.
It's not like you know, I'lltell you, but you got to do this
for me or you need to pay usthis.
I mean, like, obviously there'ssome services that you will
have to pay for because theseare these people's way of life,
have to pay for it because theseare these people's way of life,
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but like little stuff that thatpeople don't tell you, um, like
, if you're a first-time authorand stuff like that.
You can find that with theboozy book baddies.
Honestly, boozy.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Is that b-o-o-z-i-e or b-o-o-z-y?
Why?
Boozy book baddies?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
yes, and also, um, we have a group me community for
the Boozy Book Baddies.
I think we're like 70 pluspeople in that group and you can
hop in that group.
You can talk personally to us.
You can talk to other authors.
You can talk to other readers.
You can talk to ARC readers.
(25:44):
Like, if you need ARC readersif you're an author, you need
ARC readers for your book.
If you need beta readers, youcan talk to arc readers.
Um, like, if you need arcreaders, if you're author, you
need arc readers for your book.
If you need beta readers, youcan find all of that in that
group.
Me.
We have, um, we have somebodythat does yoga.
We have somebody that offerslike lifestyle, um advice, like
it's just a bunch of stuff inthere.
Like there is exclusives for,like new releases and stuff like
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that.
All of that is in this group.
So if you follow me, just dm meand ask me for the link, I'll
get the link for you.
You can join us.
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
It's an amazing group and I got your information.
I have her information at thebottom.
Follow b beauty underscorey.
Underscore rights on TikTok sothat you can join.
That sounds like an amazingcommunity.
That's what I love aboutBookTok.
Is that where you guys foundeach other at On BookTok?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yes, yes, and it was by accident.
Really, honestly.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
BookTok when it's good, it's good.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, and we love the Bopop community, we love indie
authors.
Those are who we help out themost, because that those are the
people who are near and dear toour hearts, because we are
those people.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
So, yes, um, and that's kind of like the purpose
of my podcast.
I'm, of course, I'm going totalk about published authors and
I'll bring on published authors, but my goal is to get
resources like like you justgave out so many different
resources where people can jointhat group, in that community.
(27:18):
My goal is to help bridge thatgap to for readers or aspiring
authors, aspiring writers,aspiring storytellers, to
connect with people, um, if theyneed help or just to find
community yeah, we, and then wealso have.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
We literally have something every day.
There's some type of activityon tiktok every day.
There's some type of activityon TikTok every day.
We have Soul Reset Sundays inthe morning with me, where we
play like inspirational musicand we do like inspirational
readings and we just talk aboutthings that will help you align
for your following week.
And then later on in the day,we have Content Sunday with my
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sister Jess.
She is absolutely amazing atteaching you how to get more
attention to your page, how tokeep in touch with your
followers and stuff like that.
On Mondays, we haveMotivational Mondays with my
sister Posh.
She's an author also.
(28:31):
You should go follow all thesepeople on on I definitely am I'm
telling you, it's alwayssomething uh jazz also does um
merch for new authors, new orold, this doesn't matter, and
she's not very expensive.
Like you know, people try tocharge you out of the wazoo for
merch.
But my sister is bad.
She can do anything if you, ifyou name it, she could probably
(28:51):
do it does she do?
because she do pr boxes, becauseI know a lot of authors be
looking for um pr boxes so Idon't know she does pr boxes,
but I also have a sister whodoes those too um my home, my
homegirl shan.
She also does web design.
Like I'm telling you, whateveryou need, we got it, and if we
don't got it we can probablyfind it I'll put you in contact
(29:14):
with somebody who do have it.
I know somebody didn't knowsomebody boozy book baddies yes,
and I'm telling you, sundaythrough saturday, there's always
something going on with theboozy book bad.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Always, I freaking love this and I'm mad that I
didn't really know about it.
Like I see you guys going liveand stuff, but I did not know it
was to this extent Listen wehave Talk With Me Tuesdays.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
We have what Are we Eating on Wednesdays?
What Are we Eating Wednesdays?
We pick different dishes to eatat lunchtime and we just sit
down and talk.
We just shoot the shit.
That's it, um.
On Thursdays, um, my sister isa podcaster.
She does new kids on the block,so that is for new authors.
Uh, new um, like, if you dolike comics and stuff like that,
(30:05):
if you're blurred she, she getsyour, get you out there if
you're new to the industry, orwhatever.
On friday nights we have gamenight.
On saturday night, again, mysister, who's the podcaster, she
does interviews with authors.
Like there's always somethinggoing on, always, always I
definitely need to tune in tothe interviews with the authors
(30:26):
so I can learn some stuff yes,and she does it so well and
she's so great at making peoplefeel comfortable, who are like
me and you, who have a bit ofstage fright, but you know but,
I think we're doing good we aredoing good we're doing real good
(30:47):
, we're doing real good.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Like you can't even tell that we are doing good, we
doing real good, we doing realgood, like it's.
It's just go like I don't knowwhy.
I was so nervous because, like,maybe it's just you or the
people that I've beeninterviewing, but oh, please
don't let it be me.
you, hey, y'all, hey, you are watching and listening
to legs between the lines and Iam your host licks and I am so
excited about today.
But before we get into it,let's go over the triggers.
I try to stay in between thelines for the most part, but
sometimes I cross them, leadingto the triggers.
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There may or may not be, um,explicit adult language.
There may or may not be sexualcontent discussed, maybe in
detail, maybe not there.
Um, we will be talking about um, maybe, and I'm just throwing
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these triggers out there, sothere are no surprises, because
what comes up comes out.
Sometimes we don't know wherethe conversation takes us, but
there will be talk of lgbtqi, a2beauty, lgbtqia.
There will be talk of A2 Beauty, lgbtqia.
There will be talk Of amiscarriage Um.
(01:32):
There will be talk of Was it?
There may be talk of abuse, butnot extra like into detail, but
I'm just throwing these triggerwarnings Out there just in case
you have any triggers.
If you are still rocking withus at this point, then go ahead
and get ready so that we can letour co-host introduce herself.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Hi everybody.
My name is Bee Beauty.
I am an author.
I just put out my first debutbook called Divine Intervention.
I am excited to be here withFlex just to sit down and talk
with her chat a bit about thisbook and other things.
But, like she said, there aresome things that may make people
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uncomfortable.
So if you are uncomfortable, Iguess I apologize in advance um,
and I hate to.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I hate to say it because, like I said, you just
never know what direction theconversation is going to go in
um, and we want everything to beauthentic and um, authentic and
um, I'm ready to dive in if youare.
Yes, ma'am, because I I gotquestions, but the the thing
that's sitting on the forefrontof my mind, this is this, like
(02:56):
because, on pay, and let me justsay this, you said this is your
debut.
Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
This is my new novel.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
This was your first published work.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
And you came out the gate swinging on page one.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, you know, I just I hear a lot of people talk
about like, about slow burnsand stuff like that, how
sometimes they enjoy slow burnsbut sometimes they just want you
to get right into it.
As my debut, I just wanted topop on and be like hi guys.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
You didn't say hi.
You said what's the movie withthe guy who's a doctor?
He's saying hello motherfuckers.
That's what you did.
You said hello motherfuckers.
I was not, and first of all, Inever.
I'm like I don't know what'sbeen going on with me, but I've
been going into books blind so Ididn't really know like what to
expect.
(03:59):
So, off the get go, I was like,oh, this is what we're doing.
This is what we're doing and Iwant to tell y'all.
But I don't want to tell y'allBecause I want you to be
surprised, like I was.
And I have read some bookswhere it started off with it,
(04:20):
but not like this, where itliterally she walked into it.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, I just wanted to.
First of all, I was verynervous about releasing the book
in general, until the point,like up to the last moment, I
almost did not.
The last moment, I almost didnot, and so I just wanted to
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make it something that peoplewould really, really enjoy
reading.
I felt like people always start, or the same things always
happen in a book he meets her,she meets him, they look at each
other googly-eyed and they fallin love.
Blah, blah, blah.
So I just wanted something justa little.
I just wanted something alittle bit different, just a
(05:11):
little bit different.
I I think I might have wentextremely different, but I just
wanted something a little bitdifferent, that's all and then
you introduced us to thisredhead, this big, and then your
characters were they weren'tthese little.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Oh, now, they were Godlike, but you know how the
descriptions go like a littleGreek, but they were the big
ones, yes, yes, they weren't thelittle model types, they were
bodybuilders.
Yeah, yeah.
I said, oh, she didn't open upa whole different can of work.
I was like she went in.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah with this book.
Okay, so I model all of themale after men who are in my
life.
Um, I'll accept flan.
Um, I always said that I wouldnever date outside of my race.
But if I went, never dateoutside of my race.
But if I went to date outside ofmy race, Flynn would be exactly
who I would date.
Okay, so you know, I just wentin and I put in exactly what I
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thought that he should look likeand it took me a couple of
tries to get to what he actuallylooked like in the character
depiction that I have of him.
But when I finally got to thatI was like, yeah, Exactly what
he needs to look like, rightthere.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
You actually answered one of the questions I was
going to ask you.
I was going to ask about thecharacters.
Are they based, or anysimilarities or characteristics
of people in your real life orpeople that you know?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
So A lot of the Things that happen In the book
and a lot of the people in thebook Are based off of real
people.
It's not exact To real people,but there are some Real pointers
in there.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yes, so somebody is real, somebody got them three
beasts.
Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Somebody has those three hellhounds.
Actually, they actually havemore than that, but I just
decided to go with three.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
But yes, they have more than the three and they're
the same type dogs, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yes, chow with three, but yes, they have more than
the three and they're the sametype dogs.
Yes, I actually got the reallife depiction of those dogs.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I got them from the, from the actual owner of the
cane corsos so, yes, did you getthe names too, did you use the
names too?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
or is that the names?
No no, I didn't.
So I tried, I tried to steeraway from as much of real life
as I could, because also, um,I'm very big about respecting
privacy and so I didn't want anyuh, uh, unwanted attention
drawn to him.
(08:03):
Um, so I did give him credit inthe pictures, but you have to
look like, you have to squint inthe pictures to see, like, his
information.
But you know, I did do that, uh, as a thanks to him for letting
me, um, have his dogs as models.
But yes, there are, those dogsreally do belong to somebody, um
(08:24):
, one of my family membersactually, and they are real dogs
.
He got some vicious beast, butyou know what?
They are not that vicious, theyare the sweetest dogs ever.
They just look like they'll ripyou apart but they are until he
gives the command.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Well, also.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yes, that is also real life, until he gives the
command.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yes, and I was.
I said I said I'm so goddamnnosy and I said I know it's
probably coming, but I was likewho was this man that gave her
these dogs and then train thesedogs up for her?
I was like, let me tell yousomething.
I like I can't wrap my mind.
I said this is your debut book.
And then I'm like there's likethere has got to be a series.
(09:07):
When I got to the end I waslike like where's the rest of it
?
Like there.
And then you, I'm the type ofperson where I know they have,
we have the main characters, butwhen you write the hell out of
a side character and my focusjust kind of hones in on the
side characters, yes, yes,because best friend and even
(09:32):
flan listen, I, I, I love sidecharacters okay.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
So like I feel like a lot of the time side characters
are not represented enough in abook and I feel like their
stories are never told orthey're just made interesting
enough for you to get throughthe book.
But I feel like sometimes sadcharacters don't really get the
play.
But they be the most fun, theybe the most fun part of the book
.
Like Big, for example,everybody is in love with you,
(10:03):
everybody is in love with thatman and everybody cannot wait
until his story comes out.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Everybody keep asking me if Flander Everly are going
to have a book, if Bianca andBig are going to have a book,
because they're like, come on,we need to know some more about
these two.
But I'm just like you know, Idon't know.
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Wait, that's what you're going to give us.
You don't know, maybe wait,wait that's what you're gonna
give us.
You don't know, maybe I don'tknow, maybe you just crushed.
You just crushed it.
Y'all be out, arthur's, bedoing like, just be like.
You hit me, like right here,because what?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I'm sorry.
Yeah, like okay, so I have to.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I don't know, maybe and I ain't gonna lie for a
minute.
I thought we was gonna do likea little reverse of why choose,
with plan and divine and my girl.
I thought we was gonna have alittle triangle situation going
on.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I started to do that, but then I was like I don't
want her to just jump into awatch you situation after what
she went through in New Jersey,right, because I didn't want it
to seem like she was not wellactually she wasn't seeking any
type of romantic anything withanybody that's happened.
(11:24):
But I also didn't want it to belike she was using them, as you
know, like rebounds or you know, like they were just something
that she could do to pass thetime.
I really wanted her to beredeemed and have something that
she could hold on to.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
So I started to do that, but then I was like no,
I'll just let you know, I'lljust let Flan be a best friend
to both of them and I don't knowif you meant it or not, but
Flan had so much chemistry withher and that's why I thought I
was like I said I don't know ifyou meant it or, but it was just
so freaking natural, like itwasn't forced or anything.
I was like the chemistry.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I was like or is she gonna choose like one or the
other one, cause I didn't knowwhich way you were going to go
with it and, to be honest withyou, when I started writing, I
started to do a white shoe, butas I kept writing, I just didn't
want to.
So I let them be best friendsand I felt like you know her,
coming into this new place,that's what she needed.
(12:23):
Before she needed anything elsewas a friend.
Before she needed anything elsewas a friend.
After all that she had endured,I felt like her having a friend
and her letting her see thatall men are not assholes, or all
men are not, you know trash,but yes, a man can't actually be
there from you, for you andgenuinely not want anything in
(12:45):
return and that was going tobring me to my next question of
like how do you incorporate thetrauma in your stories and like,
what kind?
but it seems like it just kindof it come, it just comes to you
(13:13):
along with was just like youknow, let her experience this
exuberant heartbreak, but thenalso let her gain way more than
what she lost, you know.
Gain way more than what shelost, you know.
(13:33):
So it just I was, I didn't likesit down and plot the story.
I was like, yeah, I'm gonnamake her do this and make him do
that and make them meet this.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Like it just sort of came as I was writing the story
that's natural, like the likethe whole book was, just it just
flowed.
You know how sometimes you canread some things and it's like
it's a bit like it's too.
It's not that it's too much,but it doesn't seem like it was
just like genuine or natural.
Like you, like you try, likeyou can we can tell you're
(13:57):
trying, but it flow.
It's just like from thebeginning, when all of the chaos
and I was like girl, tap somestuff up, break, break some
stuff, but everything just likeflow from the beginning of her
catch, catching the ad to hermoving and going to the hotel to
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meet in divine, and like itjust was, like most of the time
people start you off really slowand then they build you up to
the excitement and I felt like Iwanted to do something
different.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I wanted to knock you out First off time people start
you off really slow and thenthey build you up to the
excitement and I feel like Iwanted to do something different
.
I wanted to knock you out firstoff and take you on this wild
roller coaster ride and then atthe end just sort of kind of
give you like a soft touch.
But that's why the end cameabout the way it did, because I
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didn't want the whole book tojust be like nerve-wracking.
And then people were God, thatbook just took me through so
much I couldn't concentrate onanything.
So I just wanted it to be likea really fast rollercoaster ride
.
And then you know, like rightat the end of the rollercoaster
ride, when it slows down andit's about to stop.
So that's kind of what I wasaiming for.
(15:04):
I hope I shot my shot right.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
You did.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Have you taken, like any writing classes or I've
never taken any writing classesin my life.
I've just always been a fan ofwords.
My mom is like really really,really smart, and my mom taught
me how to read at two and a half, and my mom taught me how to
read at two and a half, and somy fascination for words came
(15:30):
from my mom, and I've justalways been able to put words
together very well.
A lot of people thought that Iwas going to be an English major
when I went to college, but no,I'm actually.
I was actually a biology major,but that's the end of it.
But no, I've just always beenlike a really big fan of words.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Me and one of my sisters joke about.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I call myself a word whore, but I just love it.
That's a t-shirt.
Okay, I'm probably going to get.
I'm probably going to getsomebody to put it on Hashtag
word whore.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yes, we're gonna hold that.
Thought we're gonna go tocommercial really quick.
But when we come back we aregoing to talk about.
How did you become a writer?
Okay, so I am excited aboutthat.
You guys stay tuned.
We will be right back afterthis commercial break If you or
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And we are back with thequestion.
Miss Beauty, how did you?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
become a writer, or what did that process look like
for you?
How did I become a writer?
You know, this is the funnything I still do not consider
myself a writer.
That's the funny thing.
I just love to tell a goodstory.
I'll call myself a storytellerbefore I will a writer, but I
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actually became a writer byaccident.
It was sheer coincidence that Ibecame a writer.
It was actually an exercisethat my therapist offered to me
versus sitting in sessions notsaying anything, and at first
when I started I thought it wasgoing to be stupid, but it
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actually did really help me.
So I think I do my best writingwhen I'm under pressure.
I often view myself as beinglike a piece of coal being
turned into a diamond.
So, like, the more pressure youput me under, the better I'm
going to write oh, I love that.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, did this story happen to stem from a session or
?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
so this story is actually okay.
You're going to laugh, or maybeyou won't laugh, but I also
suffer from insomnia.
So this story was writtenprobably 86% while I was sleepy.
I was asleep when I submittedthe book over to my editor and
(18:28):
she sent it back.
I was like did I write this ordid you change something in
there?
She was like I didn't changeanything.
That's not my job, you wrote it.
And I was like are you sure?
Because I don't remember.
I don't remember writing thatbut, this story came from a lot
of I call it sleep writing.
This story was sleep written,so wait cuz you like what yes,
(18:54):
yes, this, a lot of this story,was written while I was sleepy,
or very much on the edge of oneasleep.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I forgot what the hell I was.
Finna say.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yes, I wrote the story that way.
I'm just trying to wrap my.
My brain is trying to processthis.
Did you do it on a phone, alaptop?
How did you get this story?
Was it in a notebook?
How did?
You get this story.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
A lot of this story was written on my iPad and then
transferred over to my desktopand then okay.
So a lot of this story.
This story started off onWebPad.
This story started off onWebPad.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
And I had never heard of what pad until book talk,
all of the yep, all of the, andI was like what the heck is that
?
Everybody's like, oh, I used tofollow her on what pad?
I used to follow her and I'mlike, what is that?
What is that?
And then there's like, oh, it'sa um site and I obviously it's
like good novel or rated, or adream.
And I was like, oh, I just a umand I obviously it's like good
novel or I read it or a dream.
And I was like, oh, I justnever heard of that, of that
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particular one yeah, I, I juststarted with it.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I have several stories on what that actually,
but yes, this is one of the onesI started writing on what and
what.
That is a great.
It's like a great writing toolif you want to just like see
where your writing is gonna gowith the scene.
What Pat is great for that isit it like?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
is it like?
The paper chapter story is oneof those right.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
So some sometimes it is, and then some of the stories
you can read for free.
I made all of my stories sothat you can read them for free.
It wasn't that deep for me, butsome I like some authors up
there are really serious aboutwhat you have to pay by episode
or pay for the entire book.
But it wasn't that deep for me.
(21:03):
I was just actually foolingaround.
There's so many grammaticalmistakes out there and it's
terribly written on webpack butnonetheless it was written there
.
It started out there.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
In your sleep.
Look at my damn vein coming out, because my mind is confused
Like what.
Look at my brain, don't beconfused.
Don't let your mind be confusedhey, it's, you did it and
you're do you like.
Do you take medication?
Is there medication forinsomnia?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
um, you can take sleep aids, but I don't like to
take sleep aids.
I like to just kind of let mybody fall asleep when it does,
because sometimes they can worktoo good, and then you sleep
half a day and then wedefinitely don't want that yeah,
then you just get.
Then you wake up and you'restill more tired than you were
when you went to sleep, so Ijust let my body fall asleep
when it's tired um.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Another question I wanted to ask was um, is there a
community or do you have help,like, with editing, publishing?
I know you say you had a editor, so can you tell us a little
bit about like, that process oflike, the whole turnabout of
like, or the process that thebook went through?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
yes.
So I went through so much withediting my book, with just
finding the right editor, almostlost like hundreds of dollars
with editing.
But then I found this amazinggroup of women it's seven of us
(22:40):
but one of them just so happenedto be a developmental editor
and I went to her and I was justlike I'm about to cry because
my book was supposed to bereleased in like two weeks and
the editor hadn't done anything.
And then she stopped calling,she stopped texting, she stopped
communicating with mealtogether.
Um, and so I was just like Idon't know what to do.
(23:03):
Um, and that's at the point whenI was just about to just like
maybe it's not for me to putthis book out.
But then she was like send itto me, like it wasn't a second
thought or anything like that,and I was just like are you
serious?
She was like, yeah, send it tome.
And what was supposed to take amonth?
(23:26):
She finished in literally likenine days in order for my book
what I'm out on time yeah didyou get your money back from the
other editor?
I did.
I went, I had to go throughlike my bank and all that stuff,
but yeah, I did and so but andso, but yeah, I didn't know what
(23:50):
I was going to do and like sheliterally came in with the Hail
Mary.
I'm not even going to lie andyou know, like I said, I became
part of this community, theBoozy Book Baddies.
I love those girls to piecesand they are literally a
one-stop shop.
There's authors there, there'snarrators there, there's
(24:11):
developmental editors there,there's mentors there, there's
spiritual guidance there, likeanything that you need as far as
writing is concerned.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I don't think you can't find it with those girls
is that the name of the group onfacebook or the?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
so, yes, uh, we do officially have a page on tiktok
called okay, please go, followus, and a lot of the information
that people want you to payhundreds and hundreds of dollars
for.
We offer up for free becauseit's not, it's not that deep for
us.
It's about helping each other,especially in the Black
(24:48):
community or in the BIPOCcommunity also, so we enjoy
helping other people.
It's not like you know, I'lltell you, but you got to do this
for me or you need to pay usthis.
I mean, like, obviously there'ssome services that you will
have to pay for because theseare these people's way of life,
have to pay for it because theseare these people's way of life,
(25:10):
but like little stuff that thatpeople don't tell you, um, like
, if you're a first-time authorand stuff like that.
You can find that with theboozy book baddies.
Honestly, boozy.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Is that b-o-o-z-i-e or b-o-o-z-y?
Why?
Boozy book baddies?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
yes, and also, um, we have a group me community for
the Boozy Book Baddies.
I think we're like 70 pluspeople in that group and you can
hop in that group.
You can talk personally to us.
You can talk to other authors.
You can talk to other readers.
You can talk to ARC readers.
(25:44):
Like, if you need ARC readersif you're an author, you need
ARC readers for your book.
If you need beta readers, youcan talk to arc readers.
Um, like, if you need arcreaders, if you're author, you
need arc readers for your book.
If you need beta readers, youcan find all of that in that
group.
Me.
We have, um, we have somebodythat does yoga.
We have somebody that offerslike lifestyle, um advice, like
it's just a bunch of stuff inthere.
Like there is exclusives for,like new releases and stuff like
(26:09):
that.
All of that is in this group.
So if you follow me, just dm meand ask me for the link, I'll
get the link for you.
You can join us.
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
It's an amazing group and I got your information.
I have her information at thebottom.
Follow b beauty underscorey.
Underscore rights on TikTok sothat you can join.
That sounds like an amazingcommunity.
That's what I love aboutBookTok.
Is that where you guys foundeach other at On BookTok?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yes, yes, and it was by accident.
Really, honestly.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
BookTok when it's good, it's good.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, and we love the Bopop community, we love indie
authors.
Those are who we help out themost, because that those are the
people who are near and dear toour hearts, because we are
those people.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
So, yes, um, and that's kind of like the purpose
of my podcast.
I'm, of course, I'm going totalk about published authors and
I'll bring on published authors, but my goal is to get
resources like like you justgave out so many different
resources where people can jointhat group, in that community.
(27:18):
My goal is to help bridge thatgap to for readers or aspiring
authors, aspiring writers,aspiring storytellers, to
connect with people, um, if theyneed help or just to find
community yeah, we, and then wealso have.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
We literally have something every day.
There's some type of activityon tiktok every day.
There's some type of activityon TikTok every day.
We have Soul Reset Sundays inthe morning with me, where we
play like inspirational musicand we do like inspirational
readings and we just talk aboutthings that will help you align
for your following week.
And then later on in the day,we have Content Sunday with my
(28:06):
sister Jess.
She is absolutely amazing atteaching you how to get more
attention to your page, how tokeep in touch with your
followers and stuff like that.
On Mondays, we haveMotivational Mondays with my
sister Posh.
She's an author also.
(28:31):
You should go follow all thesepeople on on I definitely am I'm
telling you, it's alwayssomething uh jazz also does um
merch for new authors, new orold, this doesn't matter, and
she's not very expensive.
Like you know, people try tocharge you out of the wazoo for
merch.
But my sister is bad.
She can do anything if you, ifyou name it, she could probably
(28:51):
do it does she do?
because she do pr boxes, becauseI know a lot of authors be
looking for um pr boxes so Idon't know she does pr boxes,
but I also have a sister whodoes those too um my home, my
homegirl shan.
She also does web design.
Like I'm telling you, whateveryou need, we got it, and if we
don't got it we can probablyfind it I'll put you in contact
(29:14):
with somebody who do have it.
I know somebody didn't knowsomebody boozy book baddies yes,
and I'm telling you, sundaythrough saturday, there's always
something going on with theboozy book bad.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Always, I freaking love this and I'm mad that I
didn't really know about it.
Like I see you guys going liveand stuff, but I did not know it
was to this extent Listen wehave Talk With Me Tuesdays.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
We have what Are we Eating on Wednesdays?
What Are we Eating Wednesdays?
We pick different dishes to eatat lunchtime and we just sit
down and talk.
We just shoot the shit.
That's it, um.
On Thursdays, um, my sister isa podcaster.
She does new kids on the block,so that is for new authors.
Uh, new um, like, if you dolike comics and stuff like that,
(30:05):
if you're blurred she, she getsyour, get you out there if
you're new to the industry, orwhatever.
On friday nights we have gamenight.
On saturday night, again, mysister, who's the podcaster, she
does interviews with authors.
Like there's always somethinggoing on, always, always I
definitely need to tune in tothe interviews with the authors
(30:26):
so I can learn some stuff yes,and she does it so well and
she's so great at making peoplefeel comfortable, who are like
me and you, who have a bit ofstage fright, but you know but,
I think we're doing good we aredoing good we're doing real good
(30:47):
, we're doing real good.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Like you can't even tell that we are doing good, we
doing real good, we doing realgood, like it's.
It's just go like I don't knowwhy.
I was so nervous because, like,maybe it's just you or the
people that I've beeninterviewing, but oh, please
don't let it be me.
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