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The lines between loyalty and survival blur in this explosive, unfiltered conversation as a former street figure calls in to address accusations of snitching. What unfolds is a rare glimpse into the raw reality of street politics, federal cases, and the complex decisions people make when facing decades behind bars.

"I know what I did. I broke the street values," P Nut admits candidly, as he describes facing a potential 45-year sentence for crimes he claims he didn't commit. Rather than deny his cooperation, he offers a nuanced perspective on why he chose to implicate five people while maintaining he never "set anyone up" – a distinction he views as crucial to his continued self-respect.

The conversation heats up as both we debate the unspoken rules of the streets versus the pragmatic choices made in interrogation rooms. "When ten niggas go do a crime, you think five of them niggas ain't gonna tell to get home?" challenges the caller, stripping away romantic notions of universal street loyalty. Through references to specific incidents, shared acquaintances, and Staten Island history, we witness how deeply intertwined these communities are, where reputation follows you everywhere.

Most revealing is P Nut's philosophy on his life since cooperating: "I realized I can be a man and stand on my own by myself." Despite breaking the code, he's found a way to move forward independently, acquiring property and maintaining his own version of respect. This conversation forces us to question our assumptions about loyalty, survival, and what happens when street codes collide with the reality of America's criminal justice system.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What you said bro.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Why you trying to record me now, nigga, that's
what you want, but why youacting like this nigga?
This nigga, you know what I'msaying?
I'm the first nigga to tell youthat this nigga told who's that
?
Kyle Joss nigga, the nigga youjust had on your podcast.
You should have hit me when hewas on the podcast, don't hit me
afterwards, bro.
That shit is crazy, bro.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah, I'm saying I can add him to the poll right
now, keep it, keep it live.
I can add him to the poll rightnow.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Keep it all we will.
I'm not with the yelling shit.
Like everybody know, I'm onBrae Grant Niggas, this ain't no
joke.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
It don't have to be no yelling shit.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Alright, listen.
All I'm saying is he's gonna doall this shit.
Listen, it's gonna be youplaying it, nigga.
What the fuck you gonna hear itIf he wants to say, like
anybody else nigga, niggas knowwhere I'm at, don't do all of
this sucker shit.
I don't want this shit to go on, but I'm gonna tell you this
nigga, been a bolder bitch ass.

(00:59):
Nigga, all of this shit hetalking.
I was there when he talkingabout Butts and Barry and these
niggas, these here.
I was sour, but those niggasthat I came under suck my dick.
I ain't no coward, ran nowhere,nigga.
You duck.
Nigga.
You put us in that positionwhere we was at, nigga, with you
and Den.
Nigga, you faggot.
The gun was in your car.

(01:20):
You faggot.
We all got put in the fencebecause of you.
You faggot.
Come out to the streets.
Ain't no real niggas in theharbor?
What I've been here, nigga, I'mthe realest nigga here.
Nigga, suck my dick.
Fuck you talking about nigga.
Come on out here, nigga.
I've been out in the streetssince 84, you bitch, don't try
to get niggas to do a job thatyou should be doing, nigga that.
I'm one of the toughest niggasout here, but I'm one of the

(01:41):
toughest niggas out here, nigga,so suck my dick.
Nigga, that's my main priority.
This shit right here.
So all that shit.
You black niggas get up hereand talk.
They claim the thing, but don'tcall them a rat.
See the dirty thing, man, you Iknow the fuck I did, nigga.
All of these niggas you let geton your platform.
You bring a bunch of rats, butyou don't call them rats.

(02:01):
When they on your platform, yousmile and joke, but then you
come behind a real nigga backand be like yo, you rat bitch,
I'll blow your head off when Icatch you.
Though I'm on the block, nigga,I ain't never ducked nothing.
Nigga Suck a dick.
Nigga Power.
Come out here.
That's all.
All you niggas that talk aboutnut.
Put this nigga and that niggaaway.
Why was not put this nigga andthat nigga away?

(02:22):
Why was I not in that position?
You faggots?
I've been getting money outhere, nigga.
I've been catching bodies outhere.
Nigga, I've been with theniggas you're talking about Plot
bro, baltimore, where you wannago, the Hill LK all of them, ft
, that's my nigga nigga.
Castleton boys that's me.
Nigga Suck a dick.
Nigga.
A nigga ain't never put handson me.
Brick smacked your glasses offand you up here talking about

(02:44):
shout out my man Brick Suck adick, fuck.
You talking about what?

Speaker 1 (02:49):
you got to say about them saying you wore a chance
when you went to go see, youwore a wire when you went to go
see.
Damn fuck chance nigga.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
All I say listen, all I say chance.
Know what went on in that cell?
I brung chance some shit.
You know I don't know whatreally went on.
You know they lined no, Ididn't have a wire on.
The wire was in there.
Period, I don't know.
I didn't have the wire on.
It was in there.
So long story short, you wasaware of the wire being in there
, though.

(03:18):
Nah, nah, nah, not at the moment.
Not at the moment, I wasn't.
I just got jammed up on Chance.
Chance trying to line Envlobthe call came to me.
They was lining Chance's phonecalls up.
The call came to me and mybrother to take out one of the
motherfucking Chance's witnessesperiod.
So niggas can suck a dick.
That's how we got jammed up inthat.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
So you're saying Chance was lining?

Speaker 2 (03:39):
somebody up.
No, when Chance was beingwatched or monitored, they was
on his phone calls from thebeacon.
Chance came to me and mybrother to hit one of his
witnesses that lived in BarkerStreet Period, Threaten him, hit
him, whatever.
We got caught up in that withthat.

(03:59):
I went to jail for them to kickin my door and in the mark room
they came at me with that shitLike listen, we got you on on
what's the?
Ah, ah, ah.
That's how all of thattranspired.
I'm not going into details aboutthat.
Niggas know what I did.
It's paperwork.
I ain't say I ain't neverducked nothing.
Nigga, Suck my dick.
Why was I involved in KD andDex's ball of paperwork?
Because they tried to say Ikilled Ben and I'm not doing 40

(04:23):
years for niggas saying none ofthat.
Nigga, I didn't bust, I didn'tdo nothing with them.
Me and Ben never had noproblems.
That was really my son Sincethe Markham home, Since he was
beefing with my boys, EZN andbanging the niggas.
Nigga, so suck my dick.
Power Fuck out of here.
You did that.
You lined Ben up.

(04:51):
Nigga, you had the gun in yourcar.
You threw it.
The hospital seen you with that.
You forgot I'm with the friendsthe same time.
You were the proper rules.
Suck a dick.
Yeah, out of here.
All these is talking if get onthis.
Really everybody was in theproper rooms trying to look out
for self bro and I and the realget on there.
I was telling before the fedcase got jumping off when they
snatched me powell was the firstone, kd dex and then me.
I told boy boy book on all ofthe how these was coming.

(05:14):
So suck my dick.
Everybody that's talking.
Another rat, I'll put my on youtalking about still Niggas
still running in the streets.
They can't say nothing.
Told on them.
I done been through mad dirtwith niggas.
I'm just not sitting therebeing a sucker for a bunch of
suckers telling on me Fuck outof here.

(05:35):
Fuck my dick.
How the fuck I get involved inKD and Decker's states.
That's a defense.
What they lawyers say Damn, youshoot Dan in the parking lot
for killing your sister.
Suck my dick.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
But you're not answering my question.
Who told on you?

Speaker 2 (05:50):
KD and Dex Power put me in that shit, All of them.
I wasn't getting down with thelady on that first.
She didn't know that it was themean that went on at that
fucking that little fuckingparty.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
I let all the niggas in there.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, they're rats.
Nigga, Don't try, come on.
I'm not saying Dex.
I don't know if Dex went bad,but niggas was in profits.
Kd's still trying to go bad.
Nigga, Fuck you talking aboutniggas.
He's in there for Brooklyn.
Nigga body.
And the big homie Suck my dick.
I ain't laying down for nobody.
Nigga my gun out here.
Nigga, Suck my dick.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, so what about?

Speaker 2 (06:26):
And you know that, nigga.
You know that I'm out here,nigga.
Every nigga out here gotbanging or doing whatever.
No, I'm out here, fuck youtalking about.
Oh, he got a.
No, I ain't got nothing mixedup, nigga, I done went to every
car switched up every year.
Nigga Getting money on theblock every day.
Nigga Getting money on theblock every day.
Nigga, gun on me every day,nigga.
Y'all niggas know, yeah, howfat I be.

(06:49):
Nigga for situation.
Don't do all of this talkingshit.
I'm not going to do this shit.
No more.
Elliot, true story.
But don't let bitch niggas geton and talk some shit, some
gangster shit, when they notreally gangsters.
So what?
You should walk the yard or two, nigga, you wasn't popping
nothing, you wasn't doingnothing.
You wasn't really screamingnothing.

(07:09):
Fuck out of here, nigga.
Come out here and scream thatsame shit.
You can walk the yard, youshouldn't be scared.
Come walk this block.
I'll brush your ass, nigga.
Fuck you talking about Anynigga that got a problem with me
.
Come walk the block, spin theyard.
Let me show you what this getdown, nigga.
I'm from that era, nigga, whenniggas was getting busy with

(07:32):
London and the nigga.
I'm not out of love.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
I'm on the island, nigga you got respect for London
, fuck you talking about.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yes, nigga, but you don't ever try to play me like I
ain't written a song.
Go get fucked up and go out forhim.
Nigga.
Fuck out of here.
Nigga.
Who fucked you?
I don't know, nigga, you actlike.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
I was there.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
I'm asking you, lo sent Blood Rush in a cell phone
when he was shut up.
I came in the fucking housewith Swim, all these nigga, all
these Staten Island niggas inthere, and they got London in
there fighting a one-on-one withone of fucking.
Am I Magmar Brim's best hitters?
Nigga you stupid.
I went in there, nigga, fuckyou too.

(08:14):
Now stop this shit.
And London was still ready togo and he was shot.
But I stopped it, nigga Fuck.
Oh man, so you don't know a lotof shit, bro.
No, he got fucked up.
Though he was hurt, he wasn'tat his best.
He said he was shot yeah.
So he was bleeding, he was shot.
No, he was shot from gettingshot by son.

(08:35):
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, all right,son shot your uncle, son shot
your uncle and your uncle turnedaround like like a few days
later, scat, he came out thehospital with his son.
So he, your uncle, still fuckedup.
Bro, that's what I'm trying tosay.
All these scat and all theniggas digging this nigga up, we
all on the island.
When the blood he got beat withthese hundred bloods Suck my

(08:58):
dick.
Chance.
All y'all niggas was runningout, y'all in the same house.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
I can't even but you know, you said, you saying my
uncle did that.
He didn't do that, bro.
We could prove he didn't dothat, bro.
What?

Speaker 2 (09:10):
What he locked up for .
Oh, I'm you know, I'm justsaying.
You know what I mean.
That's what he locked up forallegedly.
You know what I'm saying.
Allegedly, you know I ainsaying Like, let's keep it real,
bro, you ain't just trying toput me down, carell.
The niggas didn't need you toshot that nigga.
They asked me yo, what's upwith Carell?

(09:32):
You got the motherfucker, why?
You asking me, yeah, what thefuck you talking about?
But now I told on you.
You got seven years a dick.
I've been the one that yo, yo,bro, I've been out here.
Bro, why ain't nobody when mydoors get kicked in, ain't
nobody tell on me, right?
I never said yo, this told methat.
I know everybody that told thathere in the island.

(09:53):
But that's not my business toput it out there.
You understand what I'm saying.
I'm not that like that, but youwant to, you want a problem
with me and you want to keepputting my name out there.
Just come, come see me, thoughI'm not hiding, I'm in traffic
Anywhere.
You want to go Brooklyn, allthat Niggas talk, all these
heavy hitters Niggas don't knowhim.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
I know every.
Was you ever on the bus with STon Rikers Island for failing to
be a sex offender?
For failing to register as asex offender?

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, yeah, let, yeah , yeah, let me tell you.
Yeah, that did happen, let metell you.
And your boy was a bitch.
E-man was there too.
You know what I'm saying.
E-man was there too becauseE-Man was getting ready to have
a fight with my cousin Mush.
They just had that little shitgoing on in Stapleton, and all
of them Crip Mush, but your boy,huh, crip Mush, that's my
cousin.
Yeah, that's my current.

(10:43):
Yeah, but you know, long storyshort, that's how I know I'm,
I'm, I'm.
I'm originally sat down likeevery talk about.
No, I'm more rooted thananybody out here.
Suck my dick world, because Iwasn't in the house when I was
10 and 11.
I was in the street punchingyou niggas in the face, shooting
at you niggas.
Yeah, I was the first thing tohave a gun shooting at these
harvard.
You know what I'm saying.
So let's keep it official.

(11:04):
Yo Talk facts with facts.
Yeah, I told, but whoever did?

Speaker 1 (11:08):
something to me out here.
Alright, let me ask you anotherquestion.
While you're on the line and webeing honest, how many times
did you tell how many people areyou responsible for putting
away?
Five, that's it, five.
So how many times did you tellTwice have you ever set anyone

(11:33):
up?
Never, ever in my life.
All my kids.
How did you become a sexoffender?

Speaker 2 (11:42):
I got jammed up in the Markham home shit when they
did the Ninja Gunman shit and Iwouldn't tell on these real
niggas that he's talking about,like Brick and all of these
niggas.
You know what I'm saying.
So me and Wally got jammed upin it.
I caught probation out of thesituation.
I was 16.
I caught probation but Iviolated probation.
So if niggas really want toknow what really went on, I

(12:03):
never did nothing.
I just say never told.
And that's when I said to youthat's the situation where I
should have told.
You know what I'm saying.
In my life, since all of thisshit, since everything I did in
my life meant nothing, you knowwhat I'm saying.
All the looking out I did forniggas coming through the island
, like these Harbour niggas themsame Hale niggas them same

(12:23):
Brighton niggas Like.
You know what I'm saying.
But I don't pull your coatswhen you get caught with ounces
and don't get no time.
Niggas get caught with guns anddon't get no time.
Like niggas said.
Niggas pick and choose.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
But that nigga right here.
So you know that and I got afeel about you, you picking and
choosing, no, listen, hold on.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Don't ever put me as a Harvard nigga, bro you are a
Harvard nigga, you just said youout on Bray brand Nigga.
Where is that?
Listen, all right, hold on,stop, come on, come on, come on,
come on, listen.
I understand that this.
I've been in West Bray in mynigga you dumb, stupid, retarded
, see.

(13:08):
That's why I know you don'tknow me, so stop saying that
when I'm trying to tell youfacts and let you know a piece
of my life, you should justlisten and stop trying to say
when I say I'm not a Harvardnigga, I'm not a Harvard nigga
because these niggas don'tconsider me one of them, but I
was born and bred.
I was born and bred here.
You know what I'm saying.
My family is the biggest familyhere in this harbor.
You know what I'm saying.

(13:30):
So when you talk about realniggas, you're going to throw
out of the fuck some of mycousins all of them maybe and my
name got to be mentioned ifyou're going to keep it real.
But I really made my bones inthe West Niggas know that we're
F-10 on them.
So all of this shit right here.
You know what I'm saying.
So that nigga speaking on butchand Barry, you don't know these

(13:52):
niggas.
You see what I'm saying.
I lived next door to butch.
I worked for Barry.
You know what I mean.
So niggas need to stop all ofthat dumb shit with you talking.
You don't know shit.
You just was around.
You was getting sun with yourbig glasses, your big VCR
glasses Power.
Your name was PJ Pajama.

(14:13):
Just Don't do that.
You crashed Deshaun's car righthere on Brabant into like three
other cars.
When the police came, my sonwas going to fuck you up because
you crashed his car.
You know what I'm saying.
Deshaun had to come.
My son, wally, and Deshaun cameand had to take the wave.
You were scared to death.
So how you want to sit there andtalk about Dej?

(14:33):
Did you tell on Dej from theVirginia boys when you went to
Virginia?
I wish Dej, I wish you couldget in touch with Dej, since
he's shitting on Dej.
You know what I'm saying.
Dej shat on my uncle this isthe older nigga.
They shat on my uncle, michaelBloom.
You know what I'm saying and heknew that.

(14:54):
But why was you fucking withDace though?
Ah, see what I'm saying.
Niggas, be trying to talk andspin you young niggas, because
y'all don't know the real what'sgoing on.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yo, I'm an OG bro.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Don't do that.
Nah, don't do that, you20-something 30-something.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
I'm 35 years old.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
All right, nigga, nigga still got you by 16 joints
.
When niggas was out the houseplaying, you wasn't even born.
When this nigga talking that80s shit and all that shit he
talking, you wasn't born so youcan't reflect to that.
So he can spin you and talkthat he was in the mix and all
of that, I'm still a generalgangster, I understand.
This is where it get wrong.
It's a lot of egos andtestosterone.

(15:36):
I'm not even a gangster bro, youknow what I'm saying.
Yeah, just do that shit to themniggas.
I'm in the street A nigga.
Come with that testosterone.
Do you consider yourself agangster?

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Of course, how could you be?

Speaker 2 (15:48):
a gangster if you told.
I'm going to tell you I respectthe code.
Right, I respect the code SinceI told I ain't never tried to
be in nobody's group, nobody'sparties, nobody's nothing.
I've always been on my ownsince I've been home, because I
respected the code.
I know what the fuck I did.
I broke the street values.
You know what I'm saying.
I never went along with nothing, nothing.
Nobody's ever come.
No, none of that.
I've always been myself, bymyself.

(16:09):
You know why?
Because I realized I can be aman and stand on my own by
myself.
I don't need none of that.
I started that gang.
I'm the ninth bin.
My name is nut.
You know what I'm saying.
So, like most of I don't neednone of that shit.
When I realized that I am, whothe fuck?
I am like, who's gonna dosomething to me?
That I can't do something tothem.
You know what I'm, so I don'tneed none of that shit.
I started making more money.

(16:30):
I started achieving more shit,everything when I moved by
myself.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, y'all better tell theselittle niggas.
Oh, he's a rat.
Ah, but that time that rat gotan eight and a half and land a
condo.
That nigga riding around indifferent will bust your head,
y'all not telling them the realdeal, what's going on?
I've been getting money fromanybody that know me.

(16:51):
If you really stop talking toyour uncle, he'll tell me.
I've been getting money foryears, nigga.
When I was sitting in the fedsI was spending money.
Yeah, my mom was giving me shitand all of that, but we was
spending money from that nigga.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
I had the marketing homes, like when you, once you,
have a certain stain on yourname, he won't even deal with
you.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Nah, but that's not the thing.
I understand all of that behindwhat transpired with him.
But no matter what, if a nigga,a nigga can never say a nigga
ever did me dirty, nigga, youunderstand what I'm saying.
That's the whole shit I'msaying.
I know what I did.
He said he pistol whipped youbro, but I'm like who else was
there?
Did anybody else cooperate?
Like everybody cooperates whenyou get on the air.
Niggas get on the air.

(17:33):
Nigga.
Be like yeah, yeah, yeah, yo,yo, elliot, I was there.
I seen that.
Ah yo, I seen him.
That was weak and I was in thehospital with him.
Ain't, none of that neverhappened.
You understand what I'm saying.
I dropped the p when I gotolder.
My name is not nigga.
Like, let's keep it official.
If a nigga did something to me,get on this elliot card and

(17:53):
tell it.
You know what I'm saying.
I know it's mad lines listening.
Mad people, niggas that don'tlove me.
Some love me.
I don't know why you don't loveme.
I'll beat your father up, Idon't know.
Fuck your uncle up, fuck yourwife, fuck, just.
I don't know.
I ain't do the shit that a lotof niggas is saying.
You know what I'm saying.
I know the fuck I did.
You know what I mean.
That's it, point blank, period.

(18:14):
And if a nigga ever want smokewith me, bro, I don't duck no
rec man anywhere.
Bro, them niggas he talkingabout Jimmy Hintzman and all the
niggas he would never mention.
They name Rod Diggs.
I was with the niggas.
I want to say, for yeah, youwent with the niggas, all of all
BI and all them niggas.
I've been to the niggas, niggaYo you would know personally,
was Big Den a rat.

(18:34):
They said Big Den had the wireon.
The Fed said it Well, becausethey didn't know who wire it was
.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
And the Fed said it was they wire.
Yeah, where did they say thatat?
How do you know?
The fed said that nigga.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
My name peanut nigga.
When we we sitting with the pop, they telling me shit as I'm
telling them shit.
Nigga, fuck you talking aboutnigga.
That's how I know all of theseniggas got sat down.
Nigga, I'm not sitting herefighting about it.
You know what I'm sayingbecause I know you know the ada
that the prosecutors that satwith me was sitting with them.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
You know what I'm saying.
I'm not sitting here and flying, nigga, I ain't got a front.
I'ma still be the man that I am.
You know what I mean.
Like I came home, I did my 10,I came home, powell, you did 16.
How you do 16?
I did 10.
I'm ready.
How 16.
I did 10.
I'm ready.
How you come home after 16?
Ain't you the kingpin?
Ain't you the nigga that wasselling everybody the bricks?
I mentioned your name 33 times.

(19:35):
Everybody mentions your nameall these times.
You don't even 16 years.
What's wrong with that?

Speaker 1 (19:41):
What's his minimum requirement on gun laws?

Speaker 2 (19:45):
It's because he got caught with a gun back in the
days.
He did a, he did a, he did not.
Probably not a gun, but a drugcharges.
So now we in the feds, when yougot a gun and some more, you
can't charge us.
Kingpin, you should have got atleast a dog or better.
30 years no, I'm saying theywould.
They was copying me out at 40years on a cop out.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
So like ain't none of us any none of us that got low
time, that choke was getting hitwith anything under what's his
name they hit.
They hit Bucon with like 25.
You know what I'm saying.
Yo listen, man, let the streetsdeal with whatever they're
gonna do.
I'm not here for.
I'm here for a nigga that'sgetting on here talking about me
.
Man, you understand what I'msaying Me, and that man never

(20:29):
had no bad blood.
That was my nigga before wewent in.
You know whatever stain he wantto put on me, hey, so be it.
You know what I mean.
Cool, I'm not here to shit onthat nigga.
I'm in the street, bro, I'mhappy I'm getting money.
I'm fucking these bitches.
You know what I'm saying.
Don't want to wake thatmotherfucking, that beast nigga

(20:50):
the sleeping lion.
It ain't sleep Because my shitgo off every year, so it's not
sleep.
You've been going 16.
Like yo honestly the whole shit, like if a nigga beefing with
you like let's say I'm beefingwith you, I'm not really trying
to do nothing with you, nut,Because I know if I pull up on
you and I got it on me you couldput me away for five years,

(21:13):
nigga.
Yo Elliot, listen to me.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Come on.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
No, you're wrong, Because I just told you I only
put five niggas away.
I never set nobody up.
I never called the police onnobody.
I never did none of that.
You know what I'm saying.
The nigga that shot me, he gotdealt with.
You know what I'm saying.
Shit like that.
I've been shot one time,anybody.
That ever.
I'm just, I've never been onthe wrong end of the stick.
What you mean?
None of your business.
But you know we, I've neverbeen on the wrong end of the

(21:43):
stick.
You know what I'm saying.
Like, yeah, niggas shot at meand all of that.
I've been there and shoot out.
Like these niggas talking thatshit Like you shooting little
niggas.
Like shit like that, youshooting, you shooting.
I expect anybody could pull thetrigger.
Two pounds of pressure, like allI'm saying is you thinking
about what you're doing when youcome near me and all of that.

(22:04):
Who I told on, who I told them,bro, the I told them to sit in
there.
So you in the street can'tnever say I told you all these,
all these gangster that y'allglorifying or worshipping.
They don't ram with me on acouple of instances from the
harbor in the harbor in the west, niggas in the new niggas in
the hill like, come on, it's astable chain, like, like a lot

(22:27):
of.
If I was really on some a lotmore would be jammed up but is
just going with the assumptionoh, nuts hole, so you want to
push that out there because youcan't do nothing else.
You understand what I'm saying.
You can't do nothing else.
You know what I'm saying.
Don't say I'm a harvard becauseI'll be on the block in the
harbor getting money.
They don't even accept me.
Why.
I don't know, because I am ahar-on-nigger.

(22:48):
You know I never shitted on anigga from Staten Island.
Any nigga that was in anywherewith me knows that I never
tucked tail, never was in PC.
So, like, let's keep itofficial, I am one of them.
Niggas that rep Staten IslandAnywhere Tepiwi, lario, la Brim,
tar Guns, sr, shaolin Esau,shaolin Mugu who you wanna go to

(23:12):
?
Who you wanna go to?
Code Red, red Eye, who youwanna go to?
They all know me Like I knowthem.
Like I'm not fighting with thisshit.
I ain't been fighting.
I've been there from thebeginning.
Nigga, yeah, I get busy, butI'm not out here pushing my
weight off on a nigga doing noneof that shit.
Fuck out of here.
I want to get some money.

(23:33):
I'm going to fuck some bitches.
I know what the fuck I did.
I'm staying away from you,niggas, because I know you
understand what I'm saying.
They ain't ask me.
Oh, you been 10 years, nah,nigga, fuck you talking about.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
I done.
Did 22 already Fuck out of here, so are you active?
When's?

Speaker 2 (24:01):
the last time you actively cooperated with the
feds or whoever?
When was um?
It was Harvey Needy case.
After they let me out All myfather, grandmother, my four day
kids, after they let me out, weain't had no dealings, bro.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
We ain't had no dealings.
So let's say, hypothetically,you get caught with a pistol,
you don't think that you'll.
You'll, you'll have leniencyDue to your past deal.
A pistol, you don't think thatyou'll.
You'll have leniency due toyour past dealings, or you
wouldn't cooperate in thatsituation.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Nah, they gonna knock my head off that's why I go so
hard at niggas.
When you make me pull a pistol,I go so hard and I go in on you
cause I know they gonna knockmy head off.
I'm peanut.
They waiting to knock my headoff the feds you see what I'm
saying.
The state, this judge sittingon that shit.
Hey, like, come on, I've beenin this state.
I've been in that shit, nigga.
What you gonna do?
You gonna try to stab me.
I'm gonna stab you butt, nigga.

(24:50):
I got fucking 17 cuts, threestabs in the state.
Nigga.
Like't never been to pray,nigga.
And I'm a buck 52, nigga.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, you worse than Shug, nigga.
Like just sit back and.
Shug's been talking shit aboutyou too, nigga.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Like how Me and his moms, his pops, like his pops,
like I was getting money withniggas like that, like I've been
on movements with his pops, hisuncle partying His pops is a
gangster.
I idolize niggas like that WestBayer gangsters nigga.
So how she sit on me.
She grew up under me.

(25:35):
I'm giving her money.
I'm in a crib, I'm sitting withsome moms, my baby mother, all
that.
How you sitting on me, sir?

Speaker 1 (25:44):
I would never sit on you, bro, no matter what you
said, nigga, I would classifyy'all as the same type of nigga.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Honestly, I would say y'all come from the same cloth,
listen, listen, listen, listen.
I've never taken on some shitMe, sir.
I put chug.
Just have no chug-torn shit onme, bro, like more like we, I
like family bro, I would never,I would never even turn.
I wouldn't even turn violent ornone of that.

(26:11):
If he tried to get it like Iwould get my car leave, bro, I
couldn't hurt his mom's likethat.
And if he could hurt my wallslike that, then said you a
sucker word because I wouldnever do that.
And play play period.
No, like that's my babymother's, like sister.
I know, like I knew his motherbefore sylves was born, bro,

(26:31):
when I moved to west bryant,like his mother's family and
people's was one of the firstfamilies like my people's men so
you knew her when she was likea daddy back in the day man you
call leader what she ain't neverhad an abortion.
That's why she got all them kidsnigga.
All these bitches runningaround with all these abortions
bitch.
You have the same amount ofkids nigga.
Fuck out of here.
Her kids is awesome, nigga.

(26:52):
Every one of them is awesome,nigga, and I know every one of
them is fucking awesome, Nigga.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
who the fuck is wrong with you?
Courtland is a fuckingpedophile, sex offender,
sodomist.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Let's go past that.
I didn't know him as that,nigga.
I knew him as little Cortland,nigga.
I was Bob Kicks.
He's a rap, he's a stand.
All right, stop Listen.
Why you doing all that?
I don't know.
Listen, I don't know.
Whatever See you taking it asstreet values, nigga.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
You know what I'm saying, nigga, fuck out of here
they got a beautiful family.
That's the fucking most evilfamily in Staten Island.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Why it's my other family that do the same shit.
It's grown men that do the sameshit they do, that's the most
evil, wild, disgusting family inStaten Island.
It's grown men that do it.
It's white boys' family.
You sitting there bugging nigga, that nigga was digging a whole
bunch of other niggas up.
That was really touching kids,and all that nigga that was
coming through at the same time.

(27:47):
We was on the island, nigga.
So, nigga, stop All that shit.
I don't know what the fuck thatlittle niggas did when they got
older and all of that.
I wasn't there, nigga.
I was living my life somewhereelse.
They was aight, bro.
That's why I say you can't siton me, nigga.
You came up under me, nigga.
I watched you grow.
I watched you become a man.
I watched you handle that300-something pound nigga in the

(28:08):
tattoo shop.
Nigga, come on, nigga.
That's what I'm trying to say,bro.
A lot of niggas like I'm therefor a lot of shit with a lot of
people.
Bro, when you just talk aboutmy name there, respect, unless
you're gonna come up on thisblock and say something to me.

(28:28):
You know what I'm saying,that's all.
Just put some respect on that.
I, I know where I'm at, man,that's it.
And you let that get on theairwaves again and talk all that
, asking about that.
Why you woke up with dates.
You know he told on this.
So you were rat to all that.
All that staying with rats andall of that uh, you was out here
.
That they were saying was ratsfor the moments.
So get the out of here.
Stop trying to get to do yourdirty work.
Talking about this is going on.
Why y'all niggas are standingout letting.

(28:49):
No, you come out here.
You got an issue.
You come out here.
You put your own work in.
I'm from that.
Ever put your own work in.
Don't send the little homiesnowhere.
You gonna send yourself nigga.
Fuck you talking about nigga.
I put my own work in aroundhere.
Fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
I hear you loud and clear and I appreciate your time
and this interview that youanytime anybody wanna talk about
me?

Speaker 2 (29:19):
you pull me up, bro, and that's a fucking fact.
Nigga, cause a nigga ain'tnever been nothing to me.
Some of the heaviest hittersout here I done moved around
with nigga.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
And you said, I could find you on break right Anytime
.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Anytime.
Nigga, anybody know that.
Nigga, fuck niggas talkingabout nigga.
And you ask around nigga, whodid something to me?
Who did something to me?
Man, whoever went to jail forme that did something to me.
Let's not talk about theseniggas.
That's in there already.
You know what I'm saying.

(29:52):
Boulder won't mention me.
I never told on Boulder.
You know what I'm saying.
He won't mention me, probablybecause I ratted or whatever.
He know I get busy.
He was on the floor with megetting busy.
You know what I'm saying.
Your uncle know I get busy likecertain that's on that, on that
type of time, and I was gettingbusy back in that time or even

(30:13):
in the new age, ever.
They know what it is, bro, likeI get busy, bro, but I ain't
fronting and running around herepressing and all of that.
I could do that because Ireally know who puts in and who
ain't nigga.
And if you ain't, then, likeyou know, we just gonna be doing
what we doing.
You know what I mean.
I'm out here, ellie.
I just I'm out here, that's all.
Ain't nothing to talk about.

(30:34):
I'm in track.
If a nigga saying up bro, fuck,out of here, bro, and I really
put on for this little ass rocknigga.
I really put on for this rock.
Nigga, ask your big homie, fuckthat.
I told nigga when niggas wascoming to jail.
They was happy to hear that wasin the building.
Fuck you talking about AnywhereCat Shockey, attica, comstock,

(30:59):
clinton, southport, where youwant to go Sing Sing when you
want to go Sing Sing when youwant to go to Allen.
They was happy to hear that Iwas in the building.
Nigga, anybody my age and thatwas going to Allen.
Little years younger nigga washappy.
Nigga, I told it up with them.
Harlem niggas for that brim shitand all that nigga, fuck out of
here.
Gkb, none of that shit.

(31:20):
Just got on.
Nigga, nontick all that shit.
Nigga, come on.
Nigga Y'all one of them hotboys with SI Magoo, all of that
running around.
Nigga, before Peewee and LO, meand LO knew each other from the
4th building.
Nigga, y'all niggas worshiping anigga.
That's from Harlem.
Nigga Y'all don't even knowwhat it's about.
Get out of here.

(31:40):
You know I'm trying to say man,like I've been around, man,
that's all bro.
So when talk about me, just putrespect on my, that's all.
I don't never downplay what atrying to do.
If a out there trying to get it.
Go get it, bro.
I don't downplay.
I don't sit around say you wereratting that.
Go do what you gotta do.
Know who doing what?
Out here, man, out of here y'all, exactly like stat now the only

(32:01):
rat, the borough rat, nigga,brahms, brooker, everywhere,
nigga, fuck y'all niggas is dumb.
That's why when ten niggas godo a crime, you think five of
them niggas ain't gonna tellthem to get home.
You dumb, stupid, fuck outtahere.
That's why it's going on theway it's going on.
Fuck outta here.
Because everybody's supposed tobe built like that, because

(32:22):
everybody's just gettinginitiated into the gang and they
ain't really like that.
They ain't like that.
I don't know how we get up in abig ass fretting time.
To begin with, I wasn't fuckingwith none of them niggas,
because I know niggas wasn'tlike that.
Niggas know, before that Fedcase came about, I was fucked,

(32:44):
me and Bucorn just got cool me.
Bucorn, nana, all of us washanging around.
I'm involved with all theseother niggas 40-something other
niggas.
No, oh, you talking about the39 count.
Operation Mayberry indictmentyeah, before that, I was only
dealing with one nigga, twoniggas and my brother and we

(33:06):
wasn't getting money together.
We was fucking some bitches andgoing to some parties.
That was it.
Yeah, you know what I'm sayingand that same shit.
You're talking about that sameshit.
Oh, you riding around you.
You can't get jammed up forfailure to register.
That's what I'm in jail for.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
That's what I was doing a year for boy how many
times did you do a year forfailing to register that was it
that, man.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
I only did that.
They wasn't even failing tochange their address, nigga, but
they had to put they didn'twant to.
That would have been more timeif they got me for change your
address.
So they put it as failure toregister.
So I could get to six months.
But long story short, uh, that'swhat I was on the island for
when the feds came and snatchedme.
Nigga, willie dale was there,all the niggas was there.
That was on it.
So long story short, like, whydid I come to the feds?

(33:55):
I wasn't getting money withnone of them, niggas.
Yeah, like I told on myself togo to the fence you know what
I'm saying.
And then they couldn't chargeme with nothing because I wasn't
part of none of the violence.
So you came at me with a drugindictment with me and my
brother how you doing withconspiracy with me and my

(34:17):
brother, nobody else.
So when we go to take our timenow y'all come at me with our.
We superseded the littlebrother with attempted murder
and possible conspiracy tocommit murder.
What Mom?
Everybody went crazy, bro.
So no way.
That's where the 45 years andall that came into play, when

(34:39):
niggas was trying to say I hadany part in killing with them.
Nigga, fuck you talking about.
Niggas was trying to say I hadany part in killing with them.
Nigga, fuck you talking about.
Niggas was in the courtroomwhen it all went on.
Nigga, when I took this in,niggas was there Bitches was
there, fuck you talking about.
They heard his lawyer say well,well, didn't you?
No, nigga, no, why am I here?
Fuck, are you talking aboutnigga?

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
I had to cooperate.
You gotta cooperate.
Anybody that's sitting out hereright now that had that profit
with that government.
You told them everything.
Don't just go.
I just went in there and I toldthem nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
Nigga, if they asked you aquestion, you told it Because
you didn't want your piece ofpaper to get ripped up.
You see what I'm saying.
You see what I'm saying yeah.
So when you get on this YouTube, when nigga, you know that got

(35:25):
that profit, you told everything, bro.
Everything, you told everything.
Anything they ask you, you toldso.
All that other shit is a lie,bro.
So that's what I'm trying tosay.
The next time you go in with anigga, why you give niggas
leniency, bro.
That nigga right there and Iheard niggas was hitting you
because I didn't know about it.

(35:45):
I just hit you like yo, why youstill hitting me?
I heard that right after I satthere, this nigga hit me.
Niggas like yeah, because PowerJess was on the line.
Are you getting this bozoairway?
Tell him to come out here andspeak like, speak that shit to
some of these real niggas man.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Well, I appreciate you clearing the air and I'm
about to drop this and let let,let, let it all be heard and
clarified from you yourself yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Like, stop giving niggas leeway.
You give niggas mad leeway.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
You don't go in how I give niggas leeway.
I didn't know he was a rat.
No, no, no, don't do that.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Niggas who said they was hitting you.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
at the same time as he was on the line, I was saying
hit him at the same time he wason the line and they didn't
know he was on the line untilthe interview fucking dropped.
What are you talking about?
I didn't know about theinterview.
What the fuck are they talking?

Speaker 2 (36:38):
about.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Nobody knew he was on the phone Until the interview
dropped, so how was niggahitting me While he was on?

Speaker 2 (36:47):
the phone.
Ain't nobody else hit you afterthat, bro, I posted a link To
the interview.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
After it dropped, nobody knew I was even Speaking
to Power, just so whoever hityou, they fucking lying nigga
After the interview dropped.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Whoever hit you?
They fucking lying nigga.
After the interview droppednobody hit you said nothing.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah, niggas hit me and I and I hit power, just, and
I never niggas spoke about it.
Nigga, what, what?

Speaker 2 (37:12):
he said so you know that somebody told you besides
me that he read it.
That's all I'm trying to say.
Did you ask him before?

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Other people said he did bad.
Yeah, and what is he saying?
What did he say?

Speaker 2 (37:26):
He's saying tell him produce paperwork.
Oh see, yeah, he there.
He got to go with that shit.
If a nigga don't listen, the VAboys ain't go all the way
through.
He know that we didn't knownothing about that fed shit back
in the day, so we didn't knowthat until we just went through.
You know what I'm saying, buthe know that.
That's why he's saying that,yeah, tell him to produce his

(37:47):
last paperwork on his fed bill.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
I certainly will.
I will request that from himand see if we could get to the
bottom of it and clear the aironce and for all.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yeah, but you knew that that nigga was saying that,
so he should have jumped backon the air and clarified that.
No, I'm saying he should havejumped back on the air and
clarified that once you werehere to begin with the question.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
We're going to clarify it in a couple minutes.
Yeah, LFTG signing out nigga.
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