July 12, 2025 • 29 mins
From behind prison walls comes a raw, unfiltered conversation that peels back the layers of street allegations, betrayal, and the consequences of life choices. This gripping phone call shines light on the complex world of reputation in street culture, where accusations of "snitching" can follow someone for decades.
Our caller Enver Mehmeti, currently serving his 17th year of a 27-year federal sentence, finally breaks his silence about the rumors that have shadowed him throughout Staten Island. With remarkable detail, he recounts how two individuals—Gerald "Spree" Johnson and Morris "Power Just" Fuller—allegedly fabricated stories about his cooperation with authorities. The conversation walks through critical moments: a 2002 apartment raid where guns and drugs were discovered, recorded conversations meant to expose lies, and the strategic decisions that resulted in his lengthy sentence.
Beyond simply defending his name, the caller delivers a powerful, heartfelt message to young people who might be seduced by portrayals of street life in media. "Please don't live a life that I lived," he implores, detailing the real-world costs of his choices. His support for community anti-violence initiatives reveals a man grappling with his past while trying to prevent others from following the same path.
The most compelling moments come when he addresses why he's remained silent until now, citing threats of additional charges if he spoke out, and his surprisingly supportive comments about a local rapper who referenced the allegations against him in music.
Whether you're interested in street culture, criminal justice, or personal redemption, this conversation offers a rare window into a world few get to glimpse directly. Listen and decide for yourself where truth lies in these long-standing street allegations.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hello, what's the word?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Hello Elliot, how are you today?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm good Talk to me.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Well, first of all, I want to thank you for giving me
this opportunity, and I'm proudof you and your show.
You continue to do good work.
You have a very good platformhere and then you go forward
with it.
Also, I'd like to say before Ibegin don't condone anyone
selling drugs or committingviolence.
I feel sorry for the stuff thatI have done in the past and I
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don't want anybody to do it.
If they do it, stop.
There's other ways to get money, especially to you.
Don't do it.
Go to school, Create your ownplatform On the Internet now.
There's many ways of gettingmoney a legit way.
That being said, I want tospeak about a couple of guys
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that were saying false rumorsabout myself.
First off, did my people sendyou them documents?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, I got everything.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
When I say something, I want to say something with
the proofs.
I don't want to sit here andjust be shooting off the hit.
Regarding this guy it's free.
Daryl Johnson.
Regarding this guy three.
Daryl Johnson.
This guy was a cousin of mybaby mother, yasmia, my ex right
.
I found this guy one day on theroad we were driving and he just
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I think they did something.
They robbed some soup on himand some other guys that I'm not
going to put their names outthere.
I'm not going to put otherpeople's names out there, the
only people that said somethingslick about me, because I want
to clear all this up.
Anyway, I picked this guy upand I took a liking to him.
I was getting locked up forthat robbery or whatever.
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I bailed him out $20,000.
I heard he said his brothers orsomebody bailed.
That's a lie.
I bailed him out $20,000.
I heard he said his brothers orsomebody bailed.
That's a lie.
I bailed this kid out, paid forhis attorneys.
I didn't know at the time thatthis guy was a real scumbag.
Excuse my language right?
I found out later on that hewas a snitch.
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He told on some when he caughta first robbery case.
He told the police that hedidn't do it.
It was some guy named SuperPolice didn't believe him or
whatever, somebody named Superfrom Stapleton I don't know who
that is.
Anyway, he went to prison forsome robberies and came out.
I started taking a liking tohim.
I was giving him you know stuffto get on his feet because he
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had nothing.
No money, no nothing.
He didn't even have a phone.
I heard he mentioned that whenI had got shot by people, even
if I knew who did it.
I'm not going to say it.
I don't know why he's goingaround telling people who shot
me or anything like that.
Why would you do that?
You open up your mouth for noreason me anything like that.
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Why would you do that?
That's you open up your mouthfor no reason.
Now this guy said that, um when, when the cops questioned him,
they said I'm an informant, whatkind of cop or police officer
is going to sit there and say,oh yeah, he's a, he's an
informant.
That was total bullcrap I nevercalled him on his phone.
I never called him on his phonebecause he didn't have a phone.
When I got shot, I didn't evenknow I was shot until I sped up
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the block and I don't know whodid it Some masked guys, I don't
know.
I don't know what the reason'sfor and I don't care.
I respect whatever happenshappens.
But when I drove up the blockand proceeded to make a U-turn
to go run, these guys over myleg gave out.
I got hit in my leg and then Isaid, oh, I'm hit.
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So I drove to the hospital, gotto the hospital, I told him yo,
get out the car, take the carback over to the house and see
what's going on.
He went back over there.
I didn't know anything wouldhappen.
He's completely lying, sayingthat the police called him.
That was false.
Police wound up at the house,took everybody to the precinct.
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I came out to the hospitallater that night and went to the
precinct because they was allin the precinct.
I picked them all up and tookthem home.
So that's false.
There's things I want todiscredit about him.
Then he says that I told on him.
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This kid is a liar.
This kid told on myself andGarland Tyree, who is known as
SI.
He was my best friend and mydear friend.
He was my brother.
May he rest in peace.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
What case did he tell on y'all when?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
They were on.
I forget the date exactly.
It was in June sometime whenthe cops kicked in.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
This call is from a federal prison.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Kicked in an apartment that Yasmina and I had
and me and I had in on 693Henderson.
It's that now this was in 2002.
I had in on 693 Henderson inStaten Island.
This was in 2002.
Now Spree threw some a littlebit of crack out the window when
the cops came a couple bags,four or five bags.
They raided the house.
They found two big guns on thegarland's bed and then in my
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room they found like 40 bags ofcoke and some crack in my room.
Now we get arrested.
Now me and Garland make nostatements.
That's SI.
Me and SI make no statements,we just sit there.
We're in the bullpen, this kidSpree.
They pulled him out about fourtimes.
We're like why are they pullingyou out for?
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He's like oh, they're asking meabout some deuce mob stuff.
Come to find out later on.
It was not about.
It was about some deuce mobstuff.
But he was also lying to thesepeople, said all kinds of crazy
stuff.
So then the next, the next day,we went to court and at court
they like I don't know how theydo this, but they knew
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everything.
What happened?
They charged him with like somelittle bit of drugs, nothing,
not even a felony.
I bailed him out, I think for$1,000.
Or he might have even got an R,I can't remember.
I bailed out the $10,000.
That's why I bailed him out,like Monday.
I think this happened on aFriday or a Thursday, I can't
remember.
I bailed him out on Mondaybecause they want to know where
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the bail money came up with.
I bailed him out for $20,000.
My baby mother let her go.
Ror.
Arlene Thomas, who was in thehouse they let her go.
Ror.
And Latoya Jackson, who wasSpree's girlfriend, was ROR.
A couple months after this Imean a couple weeks after this
we pull up looking for the spree.
He was around us still afterthat we didn't know he was
cooperating.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Until later on, and we didn't know the depth of what
the stuff that he was sayinguntil later on.
Well we go looking for him.
And we're looking for him oversome kind of remarks he made
towards Arlene that's SI'sgirlfriend, who I hooked them up
together with.
So we're looking for him forthat.
So one of his family memberssays, yo, they're coming looking
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for you, we're not coming tolook for him for nothing, crazy.
But I guess you know his guiltand that he was telling on us,
was thinking that we're going tocome tell on him and they're
going to come get him because hetold on us which wasn't true.
So we finally we come back andwe see him on fort richmond and
let go speak a minute.
So he goes into a store.
We're going to say, yo, what'sup, bro, why you ducking us?
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He's like oh man, now y'allcrazy, y'all gonna try to do
something to me.
So he asked the guy in thestore to give me some.
Give him some razors.
He bought you know the littlegem star razors.
So as I grabbed him from the,from his hand, what you doing
with these?
You're trying to cut me.
You ain't going to cut me.
What's wrong with you?
You drunk or something?
He starts running his mouth.
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One thing leads to another.
My brother rest in peace,frankie, he was there also.
We're outside now on PortRichmond Avenue my brother pulls
SI away and was like come on,let's just leave this guy alone,
he's drunk, we'll see himtomorrow.
Somebody one of Spree's familymembers sees this and hits SI,
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blindsided him, didn't knock himdown or none of that stuff.
He hit him and then it was on.
From this we got into it withSpree and some of his people or
whatever, and it was on.
We wound up cutting Spree inthe face.
So now, after the melee, weproceed to leave.
We already did what we did andleft as we're leaving.
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We went up on Harrison Avenue.
We're leaving excuse me, notHarrison on Herberton.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Behind Port Richmond Avenue by the school.
I don't know if it's PS 20, 21,whatever that school is right
there, yeah, in the car leaking,and he's like and he looks at
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us and then all of a sudden theylet us go Later.
He said nah, I told them thatwasn't you guys but I could've
did that.
We're like what you mean.
You could've did that.
Like why would you even thinkabout doing something like that?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
So you know it became .
We talked to.
Spree about that later was likeyo, you instigated that whole
thing for no reason, bro.
We came over here for this andhe was like okay, mother.
So we started talking to himagain Right Later on we get
arrested that's I and myself.
They're trying to give us awhole bunch of all kind of
shootings and all kind of thisand that selling all these drugs
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, which was a lie.
We didn't know.
Mr Gerald Johnson that's freewas fabricating a bunch of
stories on us and a bunch ofother people, people that I'm
not even going to mention.
So we get locked up.
I get locked up first, SI getslocked up a week or two after me
and we're sitting in MDC.
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The feds come and say becausewe're not cooperating with the
feds at all, we have nothing todo with them.
But now we're in jail and wehave all these charges that's
about to be put on us on lies.
They come up to me and say oneday and I'm thinking it's a
legal visit, I'm in court.
They come in there.
I'm like what are you doinghere?
They're like well, we want tospeak with you.
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I said my lawyer's not here.
They're like he's going to comedown right now, but we don't
want you.
We want to know the truth aboutMr Gerald Johnson, the lies
that he's, the stuff that he'ssaying, because it was about
some pretty influential people.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
And I'm like, listen, that's bullcrap.
They were like, listen, that'sbullcrap.
They were like, all right, butwe want to know the truth about
what you was doing.
I said you give me fullimmunity.
I'm going to tell you what I'mgoing to tell you.
They said, okay, bet, my lawyercame down.
We agreed I got full immunity.
I copped out I don't know ifyou got the form, I mean the
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paper when I pled guilty.
I pled out 20-somethingshootings right.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, I've seen that.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Nobody else got arrested but me.
I mean, nobody got charged withthat but myself.
Now, that was a ploy which meand SI came up to.
I told him what happened.
He was like yo just go home andjust take care of me.
I'm going to take this one onthe team.
There's nothing you can dobecause the guns are found under
my bed.
I'm going down for that anyway,but all the other stuff you
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know.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Just tell them that you alone this call is from a
federal prison.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Tell them that you and you alone did that.
And I did that.
I took the rap for everythingand everybody.
I even tried to take the rapfor the guns for him later.
Someone sent you that documentas well.
Do you have that?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah, I think so, yep .
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Okay, now SI scripted me what to say, told me
everything what to say and lateron they found that letter after
his trial and everything.
So I never ratted on him, oranybody for that matter except I
did get Spree back for what hedid to me and had him tell the
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truth.
If you want to call that rat,you can call that whatever, but
I'm no rat.
If I was a rat, there'd be awhole bunch of people cases that
I'd be on and I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
So why do you think everybody calls you a rat?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
that I'd be on and I wasn't.
So why do you think everybodycalls you a rat?
Because Mr Spree over there hadfabricated a bunch of papers
saying things about me.
He said he got them from SI,which is false.
The day he seen SI in court was, first of all, they have a
separation, so they're not goingto be together.
They'll be on the bus andthey'll be in different bullpens
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in the court.
He's seen him at SI's trialbecause Spree was going to
testify against SI on that day.
So this guy made up a wholebunch of false paperwork and
there was a recording of myselfwhen I came home to clarify the
lies that Spree was saying.
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I'm on recording with him on aconversation with him.
I have him admit that thingsthat he said were false.
I have him not knowing it, butwe're just talking about the
things and that was the gist ofany conversations I had with him
.
Only bad thing is one day Spreewas in the car with me with his
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brother, cecil, who's a veryexcellent person and he can
corroborate a lot of thesethings.
I said Cecil happened to be inthe car and he was about to do
something to somebody.
I told him no, don't do it.
But I told him this because Iknew it was being recorded, but
it was recorded for the purposeof spree and spree alone.
Now he put this wholepropaganda out there, put all
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this stuff out there, and Icouldn't say anything because me
and SI had something going on.
So if I said this stuff, itwould come to light that him and
I were lying and we're settingthis whole thing up and to get
us in trouble.
This is going to hang up, but Iwill call you back in 30
minutes.
Okay, all right cool.
And I'm going to get into powerjust as well.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, that's what I really want to talk about.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I got him I believe you have the paperwork on him
when he was arrested on November7th of 2009?
.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Okay, I will get into that as well.
I will call you in 30 minutes,all right, and pick up where we
left off, because I might forgetexactly where we left off, so
remind me please when I call youback, all right.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I got you All right.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Thank you, Ellie.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
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Speaker 2 (14:53):
Elliot, yeah, you was getting into power just.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Okay, but right before I get into that, give me
one second.
You asked me about why peoplewere saying these things about
me.
Mostly because of GeraldJohnson's spree, because there
was a recording with me and him.
Solely for the purpose ofobtaining that, this kid, spree
lied and made false statementson myself, on Mr Garland Tyree,
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which was SI, and numerous otherpeople, a lot of influential
people as well.
Then you get this guy PowerJudge, but real quick.
So this kid put theserecordings and the fake
paperwork saying that I told onall these people.
He told on a bunch of people.
He told on all these people onhis case.
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I had nothing to do with noneof these people.
None of these people purchaseddrugs off me and a lot of them.
I'm not going to toot my horn,but I was on a way, different
level than a lot of these guysand I'm not shooting no shots at
anybody.
If somebody comes and sayssomething at me, I'm going to
put them out there.
It's bottom line.
Now, whatever happened withSpree he's a chump, he's lied,
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he's made all this fake stuff up.
He stated that Junie was a rat.
That's not true.
Was a rat?
That's not true.
Junie didn't rat on anybody.
Spree actually ratted on Juniegot him on his case.
He's trying to say Arlene was arat.
That's not a lie.
That was a very wonderful woman, stand-up woman.
She was actually trying to takethe case for SI and myself in
the beginning until the fedsknew what was going on from
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Spree.
Now let's get to Power Just.
Power Just also spread theselies because Power Just has been
a rat.
He was on Spree's case.
Spree told and said that hepurchased drugs off of him.
Spree also told on a bunch ofdudes from North Carolina and
Power Just, I heard, told on abunch of people from the
Virginia area.
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I didn't know that until onthis bid right here a couple
dudes were saying oh, you knowthis Power Just guy.
He told them Power just gotarrested on November 7th or 9th,
on the day that Big DanJermaine Dickerson was shot.
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I've already been incarceratedfor a year almost on this charge
but you know when you'rearrested there's a bunch of
people that on my indictmentthat are blacked out.
So I don't know who some ofthese people are.
I'm not saying Power Just wasalready cooperating, I don't
know that.
But I know from that day thathe got arrested.
He started singing to thepolice.
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I sent it to my people and theysent it to you documents saying
when he was arrested on November7th or 9th I'm not sure of the
date he kept talking to thepolice and telling them that he
sold drugs and bought drugs frompeople such as myself and other
people.
Do you have that document there?
Yeah, I got it.
Okay now.
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I only printed it out and sentto my people the gist of it and
my people sent it to you andsent to my people the gist of it
and my people sent it to you.
But if you pull that up, youcan pull the whole thing up from
that case and that date.
I believe that was likeFebruary 24th of 2022, which is
how a justice's real name isMorris Fuller.
Now he was on Spree's case backin the day.
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He lied he never got on aturnaround from state parole.
That's not true.
If you look at his his idnumber, it will coincide with
some of the other people thatwere arrested on that case.
Their numbers all close, closeentwined together.
He came home at 06.
I gave him seven outfits, sevenclothes with jackets, shoes,
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sneakers, all that, and I gavehim seven outfits seven clothes,
jackets, shoes, sneakers, allthat and I gave him money so he
could get himself right.
Me and him was all right.
We were pretty cool together.
I liked this guy at the time Idon't know for what reason,
other than to discredit thewriting that he was doing that
he would go and say somethingabout me.
This man was arrested November7th, pled guilty a year later.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
This call is from a federal prison.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
And then got sentenced a year after he pled
guilty.
There's no way possible thatyou could get sentenced a year
after you pled guilty unless youwent to trial.
He didn't go to trial, he pledguilty.
So either he was working withthese people and they were going
to use him on another case andjust decided not to.
Now he goes on and says thatpeople were squeezing me for
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money, which is a lie.
All right, nobody can, never.
I was nothing to play with backin the day and I don't condone
the way I was and I'm tellingeverybody they shouldn.
And I don't condone the way Iwas and I'm telling everybody
they shouldn't do those kind ofthings at all.
But this guy made all thesekind of statements about people.
This guy has been a rat and hewill continue to be a rat.
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He's not even on Staten Island,neither is Spree.
Spree's hiding in Irvington,new Jersey.
Howard Justice is hiding inOcean County, maryland, ocean
City, maryland.
Excuse me, so that's the gistof it that I have to say about
these guys.
Any questions that you have forme?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
So are you denying the allegations that you told on
anybody?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Besides free, yes, and I only did that for free, to
obtain the truth.
Okay, and there's nobody thathas me on their media trial or
anything like that.
On anybody they're lying.
A lot of people would have beenin prison if it was something
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like that.
I was a good guy.
I bailed a lot of people out ofjail.
Gave a lot of people would havebeen in prison if it was
something like that.
I was a good guy.
I bailed a lot of people out ofjail, gave a lot of people
money and took care of a lot ofpeople.
People that are listening willtell you and they know this.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, so also Powell just mentioned.
You know a lot of people weresaying to stay away from you at
a certain point becauseeverybody heard you went sour.
What do you have to say to that?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Well, from what people heard with these
allegations from Spreet, powerJust and Big Dan and everybody
knew they were lying.
They knew the paperwork wasfalse.
Even SI sent out there and wassaying, yo, this guy's lying
Spree lied and said he was inthe bullpen with SI.
That would have never happened.
I sent you the paperwork on meand SI, how all that was
deployed, how he asked me to dothis all individually, just like
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myself.
When I got arrested, the guysthat got arrested with me, I let
them go home.
I took all the weight.
I got sentenced to 27 years.
I've been in 17 years now.
I took the weight so everybodycan go home.
So this is a lot of BS liescoming from this free guy and
Power Just.
If he felt that way, why did hecontinue to be around me and be
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up under me?
I would love to know that.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, no, I would love to know that as well.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
As soon as he came home in 06, I set him out and I
heard he mentioned like he hadall these cars.
He didn't have no car.
He didn't have nothing.
He sold my car.
He had his money.
Look on his appeal.
When the Court of Appeals weappealed together, him and
myself, for the First Step Act,he went pro se and then they
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gave him a lawyer.
He has no money for lawyers.
Tells people he's a rock boyand he's this and that.
Bro, he was leasing a car backin the day, Didn't own it,
Leasing it under his sister'sname.
Like come on Everything I had.
I had a mansion in Jersey, twohouses in Staten Island, a fleet
of cars cab company, threedifferent clothing stores, two
pizzerias.
I had everything my own paidfor.
My lawyer even tried to helphis lawyer out because I was
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just lawyers, didn't know how toargue on the appeal and they
denied him.
I got granted my appeal and I'mwaiting for a re-sentence now,
any day.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Re-sentence him for what?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
For the crack law for the 18 to 1, compared to the
100 to 1 crack.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
So if that goes through, for you what happens?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I come home any day.
Now they've been mentioningshootings in my case thanks to
uh, I don't even I hate to evensay, but this man passed away.
But Mr Alafian Rodriguez, knownas Laf, from the harbor, said I
had a shootout with him and Iwas involved in all these kind
of stuff.
It's funny, right.
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Why am I the only one everarrested for this stuff of stuff
?
It's funny, right.
Why am I the only one everarrested for this stuff?
If he says he's never beenarrested?
Whoever was with him has neverbeen arrested, or anything like
that only myself.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Was Lafayette Rodriguez a rat?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yes, he was.
He was an informant for theNYPD and he was an informant had
I went to trial on this federalcase right here.
The foreman had.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I went to trial on this federal case right here and
you're saying he told on you aswell.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yes, he did.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, I did hear that he went sour.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
He mentioned a shooting at a club.
That happened.
One of his people got shot at aclub.
Then he came with some otherpeople and I'm not mentioning
who them people are.
I know who they are.
None of them ever got arrested,only myself and he said that it
was a shootout that occurredafter that with me and him and
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you got arrested for that.
Yes, I did.
I can have my people send youthe documents of that and other
shootings.
Some had nothing to do with me.
That will show you.
The shootings of those dateswere part of my discovery.
Yeah, Then he tried to lie andsay it had something to do with
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his friend getting killed in ahouse fire.
I had nothing to do with any ofthat kind of stuff, it was an
electrical fire.
And I'm still prosecutors stillbring that up to this day on me
.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
This call is from a federal prison.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Also real quick.
I would like to once again tellthese young people out there
please listen to this.
Like the stuff that you see onTV about rappers and gangsters,
like this stuff is false.
I don't condone this and Idon't want you to do this.
This is really wrong.
I actually have a guy with oneof my co-defendants, ramon
Vaughn, about a grouporganization called Occupy the
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Block to help young people todeter them from these kind of
things, and I commend peoplelike Malcolm Penn and their True
to Life organization and Iencourage people to go and
donate to these places and spendtime with these places, to
spend time with the youth.
The youth is important to getto.
And also I want to saysomething.
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You know, I really got offendedone day when I heard on a song.
A guy named C Black mentionedme.
I like the song, I really likethe song and I think this guy
has a wonderful talent and Ifeel he's a wonderful rapper and
I would love to see him blow up.
And he's from Staten Island,born and raised, and I would
like to people and to otherpeople go support this guy.
And I reached out to this guy.
I had my people talk to him andyou know he was like I only
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rapped about it because I heardthis and that's what people were
saying and I said I fullyunderstand.
And I explained to him how Ilike this song and I like other
songs that he's done and I'mproud of this guy.
So people listen to his stuffand he told me that you know.
He would say you know, if I seeit written down, I will give
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you an apology.
I don't care about an apology,I know what I did in there, but
I didn't do it and did you clearthat up with him?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yes, we did, and where did y'all leave off?
Did he say he's going to issuethat apology?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I mean, if he does, he does.
You know, I feel he's a goodperson and I feel he has a
wonderful career and I wouldlove to see him further his
career and he sounded like avery intelligent young man.
I've never met him before.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah, I know C-Black personally.
That's my man.
He's a good guy.
Yes, I believe he is.
This interview is about to becut short because your time is
about to run out.
So, before it ends, do you haveanything you want to say to the
people, any message you want todeliver to clear your name or
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get anything off your chest?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Yes, I've sent paperwork.
I've had sent paperwork to MrElia Cotto over here and you can
see that all this stuff waslies.
I didn't come out with thisstuff in the past because the
feds were threatening me becauseof the ongoing cases that Mr
Spree had going on saying thatif I would indulge this that
they would charge me withtampering with witnesses and
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messing up their cases.
So at the end of the day Inever told on anybody.
If they told that they're fullof crap and that said anything
else you want to say.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Not right now, but if there's anything else that I'll
need to clear up, you know,because once I put the interview
out, a lot of people are goingto have some questions, so we'll
probably have to circle back.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
No problem, I don't have a problem with that, Elliot
, and I thank you, and you knowhow to get in touch with me
through my peoples anytime youwant.
Also, I really emphasize on thepeople that, especially these
young people.
Man, please don't live a lifethat I lived.
It's not good, it's not cool.
It's not cool.
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You wind up in here with allthis time.
You could lose your families,you could lose your loved ones,
your girls, whatever.
Please go on the right path andif anybody needs any help and
me talking to them about it, Ifeel free to reach out to me.
I will try to help you any wayI can, and all I wanted to do
was clear my name.
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I let it go on for so longbecause of the threats of being
arrested and stuff like that,but it gets too much to you
sometimes.
So with that I'll end this and,Elliot, thank you.
Feel free to reach out to meanytime and thank you for this
opportunity.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
And I respect and commend your platform and your
podcast.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
All right, thank you very much.
Have a your podcast.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
All right, thank you very much.
Have a nice night, yes, sir.
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hello, what's the word?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Hello Elliot, how are you today?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm good Talk to me.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Well, first of all, I want to thank you for giving me
this opportunity, and I'm proudof you and your show.
You continue to do good work.
You have a very good platformhere and then you go forward
with it.
Also, I'd like to say before Ibegin don't condone anyone
selling drugs or committingviolence.
I feel sorry for the stuff thatI have done in the past and I
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don't want anybody to do it.
If they do it, stop.
There's other ways to get money, especially to you.
Don't do it.
Go to school, Create your ownplatform On the Internet now.
There's many ways of gettingmoney a legit way.
That being said, I want tospeak about a couple of guys
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that were saying false rumorsabout myself.
First off, did my people sendyou them documents?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, I got everything.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
When I say something, I want to say something with
the proofs.
I don't want to sit here andjust be shooting off the hit.
Regarding this guy it's free.
Daryl Johnson.
Regarding this guy three.
Daryl Johnson.
This guy was a cousin of mybaby mother, yasmia, my ex right
.
I found this guy one day on theroad we were driving and he just
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I think they did something.
They robbed some soup on himand some other guys that I'm not
going to put their names outthere.
I'm not going to put otherpeople's names out there, the
only people that said somethingslick about me, because I want
to clear all this up.
Anyway, I picked this guy upand I took a liking to him.
I was getting locked up forthat robbery or whatever.
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I bailed him out $20,000.
I heard he said his brothers orsomebody bailed.
That's a lie.
I bailed him out $20,000.
I heard he said his brothers orsomebody bailed.
That's a lie.
I bailed this kid out, paid forhis attorneys.
I didn't know at the time thatthis guy was a real scumbag.
Excuse my language right?
I found out later on that hewas a snitch.
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He told on some when he caughta first robbery case.
He told the police that hedidn't do it.
It was some guy named SuperPolice didn't believe him or
whatever, somebody named Superfrom Stapleton I don't know who
that is.
Anyway, he went to prison forsome robberies and came out.
I started taking a liking tohim.
I was giving him you know stuffto get on his feet because he
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had nothing.
No money, no nothing.
He didn't even have a phone.
I heard he mentioned that whenI had got shot by people, even
if I knew who did it.
I'm not going to say it.
I don't know why he's goingaround telling people who shot
me or anything like that.
Why would you do that?
You open up your mouth for noreason me anything like that.
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Why would you do that?
That's you open up your mouthfor no reason.
Now this guy said that, um when, when the cops questioned him,
they said I'm an informant, whatkind of cop or police officer
is going to sit there and say,oh yeah, he's a, he's an
informant.
That was total bullcrap I nevercalled him on his phone.
I never called him on his phonebecause he didn't have a phone.
When I got shot, I didn't evenknow I was shot until I sped up
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the block and I don't know whodid it Some masked guys, I don't
know.
I don't know what the reason'sfor and I don't care.
I respect whatever happenshappens.
But when I drove up the blockand proceeded to make a U-turn
to go run, these guys over myleg gave out.
I got hit in my leg and then Isaid, oh, I'm hit.
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So I drove to the hospital, gotto the hospital, I told him yo,
get out the car, take the carback over to the house and see
what's going on.
He went back over there.
I didn't know anything wouldhappen.
He's completely lying, sayingthat the police called him.
That was false.
Police wound up at the house,took everybody to the precinct.
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I came out to the hospitallater that night and went to the
precinct because they was allin the precinct.
I picked them all up and tookthem home.
So that's false.
There's things I want todiscredit about him.
Then he says that I told on him.
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This kid is a liar.
This kid told on myself andGarland Tyree, who is known as
SI.
He was my best friend and mydear friend.
He was my brother.
May he rest in peace.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
What case did he tell on y'all when?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
They were on.
I forget the date exactly.
It was in June sometime whenthe cops kicked in.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
This call is from a federal prison.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Kicked in an apartment that Yasmina and I had
and me and I had in on 693Henderson.
It's that now this was in 2002.
I had in on 693 Henderson inStaten Island.
This was in 2002.
Now Spree threw some a littlebit of crack out the window when
the cops came a couple bags,four or five bags.
They raided the house.
They found two big guns on thegarland's bed and then in my
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room they found like 40 bags ofcoke and some crack in my room.
Now we get arrested.
Now me and Garland make nostatements.
That's SI.
Me and SI make no statements,we just sit there.
We're in the bullpen, this kidSpree.
They pulled him out about fourtimes.
We're like why are they pullingyou out for?
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He's like oh, they're asking meabout some deuce mob stuff.
Come to find out later on.
It was not about.
It was about some deuce mobstuff.
But he was also lying to thesepeople, said all kinds of crazy
stuff.
So then the next, the next day,we went to court and at court
they like I don't know how theydo this, but they knew
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everything.
What happened?
They charged him with like somelittle bit of drugs, nothing,
not even a felony.
I bailed him out, I think for$1,000.
Or he might have even got an R,I can't remember.
I bailed out the $10,000.
That's why I bailed him out,like Monday.
I think this happened on aFriday or a Thursday, I can't
remember.
I bailed him out on Mondaybecause they want to know where
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the bail money came up with.
I bailed him out for $20,000.
My baby mother let her go.
Ror.
Arlene Thomas, who was in thehouse they let her go.
Ror.
And Latoya Jackson, who wasSpree's girlfriend, was ROR.
A couple months after this Imean a couple weeks after this
we pull up looking for the spree.
He was around us still afterthat we didn't know he was
cooperating.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Until later on, and we didn't know the depth of what
the stuff that he was sayinguntil later on.
Well we go looking for him.
And we're looking for him oversome kind of remarks he made
towards Arlene that's SI'sgirlfriend, who I hooked them up
together with.
So we're looking for him forthat.
So one of his family memberssays, yo, they're coming looking
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for you, we're not coming tolook for him for nothing, crazy.
But I guess you know his guiltand that he was telling on us,
was thinking that we're going tocome tell on him and they're
going to come get him because hetold on us which wasn't true.
So we finally we come back andwe see him on fort richmond and
let go speak a minute.
So he goes into a store.
We're going to say, yo, what'sup, bro, why you ducking us?
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He's like oh man, now y'allcrazy, y'all gonna try to do
something to me.
So he asked the guy in thestore to give me some.
Give him some razors.
He bought you know the littlegem star razors.
So as I grabbed him from the,from his hand, what you doing
with these?
You're trying to cut me.
You ain't going to cut me.
What's wrong with you?
You drunk or something?
He starts running his mouth.
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One thing leads to another.
My brother rest in peace,frankie, he was there also.
We're outside now on PortRichmond Avenue my brother pulls
SI away and was like come on,let's just leave this guy alone,
he's drunk, we'll see himtomorrow.
Somebody one of Spree's familymembers sees this and hits SI,
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blindsided him, didn't knock himdown or none of that stuff.
He hit him and then it was on.
From this we got into it withSpree and some of his people or
whatever, and it was on.
We wound up cutting Spree inthe face.
So now, after the melee, weproceed to leave.
We already did what we did andleft as we're leaving.
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We went up on Harrison Avenue.
We're leaving excuse me, notHarrison on Herberton.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Behind Port Richmond Avenue by the school.
I don't know if it's PS 20, 21,whatever that school is right
there, yeah, in the car leaking,and he's like and he looks at
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us and then all of a sudden theylet us go Later.
He said nah, I told them thatwasn't you guys but I could've
did that.
We're like what you mean.
You could've did that.
Like why would you even thinkabout doing something like that?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
So you know it became .
We talked to.
Spree about that later was likeyo, you instigated that whole
thing for no reason, bro.
We came over here for this andhe was like okay, mother.
So we started talking to himagain Right Later on we get
arrested that's I and myself.
They're trying to give us awhole bunch of all kind of
shootings and all kind of thisand that selling all these drugs
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, which was a lie.
We didn't know.
Mr Gerald Johnson that's freewas fabricating a bunch of
stories on us and a bunch ofother people, people that I'm
not even going to mention.
So we get locked up.
I get locked up first, SI getslocked up a week or two after me
and we're sitting in MDC.
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The feds come and say becausewe're not cooperating with the
feds at all, we have nothing todo with them.
But now we're in jail and wehave all these charges that's
about to be put on us on lies.
They come up to me and say oneday and I'm thinking it's a
legal visit, I'm in court.
They come in there.
I'm like what are you doinghere?
They're like well, we want tospeak with you.
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I said my lawyer's not here.
They're like he's going to comedown right now, but we don't
want you.
We want to know the truth aboutMr Gerald Johnson, the lies
that he's, the stuff that he'ssaying, because it was about
some pretty influential people.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
And I'm like, listen, that's bullcrap.
They were like, listen, that'sbullcrap.
They were like, all right, butwe want to know the truth about
what you was doing.
I said you give me fullimmunity.
I'm going to tell you what I'mgoing to tell you.
They said, okay, bet, my lawyercame down.
We agreed I got full immunity.
I copped out I don't know ifyou got the form, I mean the
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paper when I pled guilty.
I pled out 20-somethingshootings right.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, I've seen that.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Nobody else got arrested but me.
I mean, nobody got charged withthat but myself.
Now, that was a ploy which meand SI came up to.
I told him what happened.
He was like yo just go home andjust take care of me.
I'm going to take this one onthe team.
There's nothing you can dobecause the guns are found under
my bed.
I'm going down for that anyway,but all the other stuff you
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know.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Just tell them that you alone this call is from a
federal prison.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Tell them that you and you alone did that.
And I did that.
I took the rap for everythingand everybody.
I even tried to take the rapfor the guns for him later.
Someone sent you that documentas well.
Do you have that?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah, I think so, yep .
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Okay, now SI scripted me what to say, told me
everything what to say and lateron they found that letter after
his trial and everything.
So I never ratted on him, oranybody for that matter except I
did get Spree back for what hedid to me and had him tell the
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truth.
If you want to call that rat,you can call that whatever, but
I'm no rat.
If I was a rat, there'd be awhole bunch of people cases that
I'd be on and I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
So why do you think everybody calls you a rat?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
that I'd be on and I wasn't.
So why do you think everybodycalls you a rat?
Because Mr Spree over there hadfabricated a bunch of papers
saying things about me.
He said he got them from SI,which is false.
The day he seen SI in court was, first of all, they have a
separation, so they're not goingto be together.
They'll be on the bus andthey'll be in different bullpens
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in the court.
He's seen him at SI's trialbecause Spree was going to
testify against SI on that day.
So this guy made up a wholebunch of false paperwork and
there was a recording of myselfwhen I came home to clarify the
lies that Spree was saying.
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I'm on recording with him on aconversation with him.
I have him admit that thingsthat he said were false.
I have him not knowing it, butwe're just talking about the
things and that was the gist ofany conversations I had with him
.
Only bad thing is one day Spreewas in the car with me with his
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brother, cecil, who's a veryexcellent person and he can
corroborate a lot of thesethings.
I said Cecil happened to be inthe car and he was about to do
something to somebody.
I told him no, don't do it.
But I told him this because Iknew it was being recorded, but
it was recorded for the purposeof spree and spree alone.
Now he put this wholepropaganda out there, put all
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this stuff out there, and Icouldn't say anything because me
and SI had something going on.
So if I said this stuff, itwould come to light that him and
I were lying and we're settingthis whole thing up and to get
us in trouble.
This is going to hang up, but Iwill call you back in 30
minutes.
Okay, all right cool.
And I'm going to get into powerjust as well.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, that's what I really want to talk about.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I got him I believe you have the paperwork on him
when he was arrested on November7th of 2009?
.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Okay, I will get into that as well.
I will call you in 30 minutes,all right, and pick up where we
left off, because I might forgetexactly where we left off, so
remind me please when I call youback, all right.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I got you All right.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Thank you, Ellie.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
To accept this call.
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Speaker 2 (14:53):
Elliot, yeah, you was getting into power just.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Okay, but right before I get into that, give me
one second.
You asked me about why peoplewere saying these things about
me.
Mostly because of GeraldJohnson's spree, because there
was a recording with me and him.
Solely for the purpose ofobtaining that, this kid, spree
lied and made false statementson myself, on Mr Garland Tyree,
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which was SI, and numerous otherpeople, a lot of influential
people as well.
Then you get this guy PowerJudge, but real quick.
So this kid put theserecordings and the fake
paperwork saying that I told onall these people.
He told on a bunch of people.
He told on all these people onhis case.
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I had nothing to do with noneof these people.
None of these people purchaseddrugs off me and a lot of them.
I'm not going to toot my horn,but I was on a way, different
level than a lot of these guysand I'm not shooting no shots at
anybody.
If somebody comes and sayssomething at me, I'm going to
put them out there.
It's bottom line.
Now, whatever happened withSpree he's a chump, he's lied,
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he's made all this fake stuff up.
He stated that Junie was a rat.
That's not true.
Was a rat?
That's not true.
Junie didn't rat on anybody.
Spree actually ratted on Juniegot him on his case.
He's trying to say Arlene was arat.
That's not a lie.
That was a very wonderful woman, stand-up woman.
She was actually trying to takethe case for SI and myself in
the beginning until the fedsknew what was going on from
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Spree.
Now let's get to Power Just.
Power Just also spread theselies because Power Just has been
a rat.
He was on Spree's case.
Spree told and said that hepurchased drugs off of him.
Spree also told on a bunch ofdudes from North Carolina and
Power Just, I heard, told on abunch of people from the
Virginia area.
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I didn't know that until onthis bid right here a couple
dudes were saying oh, you knowthis Power Just guy.
He told them Power just gotarrested on November 7th or 9th,
on the day that Big DanJermaine Dickerson was shot.
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I've already been incarceratedfor a year almost on this charge
but you know when you'rearrested there's a bunch of
people that on my indictmentthat are blacked out.
So I don't know who some ofthese people are.
I'm not saying Power Just wasalready cooperating, I don't
know that.
But I know from that day thathe got arrested.
He started singing to thepolice.
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I sent it to my people and theysent it to you documents saying
when he was arrested on November7th or 9th I'm not sure of the
date he kept talking to thepolice and telling them that he
sold drugs and bought drugs frompeople such as myself and other
people.
Do you have that document there?
Yeah, I got it.
Okay now.
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I only printed it out and sentto my people the gist of it and
my people sent it to you andsent to my people the gist of it
and my people sent it to you.
But if you pull that up, youcan pull the whole thing up from
that case and that date.
I believe that was likeFebruary 24th of 2022, which is
how a justice's real name isMorris Fuller.
Now he was on Spree's case backin the day.
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He lied he never got on aturnaround from state parole.
That's not true.
If you look at his his idnumber, it will coincide with
some of the other people thatwere arrested on that case.
Their numbers all close, closeentwined together.
He came home at 06.
I gave him seven outfits, sevenclothes with jackets, shoes,
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sneakers, all that, and I gavehim seven outfits seven clothes,
jackets, shoes, sneakers, allthat and I gave him money so he
could get himself right.
Me and him was all right.
We were pretty cool together.
I liked this guy at the time Idon't know for what reason,
other than to discredit thewriting that he was doing that
he would go and say somethingabout me.
This man was arrested November7th, pled guilty a year later.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
This call is from a federal prison.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
And then got sentenced a year after he pled
guilty.
There's no way possible thatyou could get sentenced a year
after you pled guilty unless youwent to trial.
He didn't go to trial, he pledguilty.
So either he was working withthese people and they were going
to use him on another case andjust decided not to.
Now he goes on and says thatpeople were squeezing me for
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money, which is a lie.
All right, nobody can, never.
I was nothing to play with backin the day and I don't condone
the way I was and I'm tellingeverybody they shouldn.
And I don't condone the way Iwas and I'm telling everybody
they shouldn't do those kind ofthings at all.
But this guy made all thesekind of statements about people.
This guy has been a rat and hewill continue to be a rat.
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He's not even on Staten Island,neither is Spree.
Spree's hiding in Irvington,new Jersey.
Howard Justice is hiding inOcean County, maryland, ocean
City, maryland.
Excuse me, so that's the gistof it that I have to say about
these guys.
Any questions that you have forme?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
So are you denying the allegations that you told on
anybody?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Besides free, yes, and I only did that for free, to
obtain the truth.
Okay, and there's nobody thathas me on their media trial or
anything like that.
On anybody they're lying.
A lot of people would have beenin prison if it was something
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like that.
I was a good guy.
I bailed a lot of people out ofjail.
Gave a lot of people would havebeen in prison if it was
something like that.
I was a good guy.
I bailed a lot of people out ofjail, gave a lot of people
money and took care of a lot ofpeople.
People that are listening willtell you and they know this.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, so also Powell just mentioned.
You know a lot of people weresaying to stay away from you at
a certain point becauseeverybody heard you went sour.
What do you have to say to that?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Well, from what people heard with these
allegations from Spreet, powerJust and Big Dan and everybody
knew they were lying.
They knew the paperwork wasfalse.
Even SI sent out there and wassaying, yo, this guy's lying
Spree lied and said he was inthe bullpen with SI.
That would have never happened.
I sent you the paperwork on meand SI, how all that was
deployed, how he asked me to dothis all individually, just like
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myself.
When I got arrested, the guysthat got arrested with me, I let
them go home.
I took all the weight.
I got sentenced to 27 years.
I've been in 17 years now.
I took the weight so everybodycan go home.
So this is a lot of BS liescoming from this free guy and
Power Just.
If he felt that way, why did hecontinue to be around me and be
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up under me?
I would love to know that.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, no, I would love to know that as well.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
As soon as he came home in 06, I set him out and I
heard he mentioned like he hadall these cars.
He didn't have no car.
He didn't have nothing.
He sold my car.
He had his money.
Look on his appeal.
When the Court of Appeals weappealed together, him and
myself, for the First Step Act,he went pro se and then they
(22:21):
gave him a lawyer.
He has no money for lawyers.
Tells people he's a rock boyand he's this and that.
Bro, he was leasing a car backin the day, Didn't own it,
Leasing it under his sister'sname.
Like come on Everything I had.
I had a mansion in Jersey, twohouses in Staten Island, a fleet
of cars cab company, threedifferent clothing stores, two
pizzerias.
I had everything my own paidfor.
My lawyer even tried to helphis lawyer out because I was
(22:47):
just lawyers, didn't know how toargue on the appeal and they
denied him.
I got granted my appeal and I'mwaiting for a re-sentence now,
any day.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Re-sentence him for what?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
For the crack law for the 18 to 1, compared to the
100 to 1 crack.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
So if that goes through, for you what happens?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I come home any day.
Now they've been mentioningshootings in my case thanks to
uh, I don't even I hate to evensay, but this man passed away.
But Mr Alafian Rodriguez, knownas Laf, from the harbor, said I
had a shootout with him and Iwas involved in all these kind
of stuff.
It's funny, right.
(23:32):
Why am I the only one everarrested for this stuff of stuff
?
It's funny, right.
Why am I the only one everarrested for this stuff?
If he says he's never beenarrested?
Whoever was with him has neverbeen arrested, or anything like
that only myself.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Was Lafayette Rodriguez a rat?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yes, he was.
He was an informant for theNYPD and he was an informant had
I went to trial on this federalcase right here.
The foreman had.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I went to trial on this federal case right here and
you're saying he told on you aswell.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yes, he did.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, I did hear that he went sour.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
He mentioned a shooting at a club.
That happened.
One of his people got shot at aclub.
Then he came with some otherpeople and I'm not mentioning
who them people are.
I know who they are.
None of them ever got arrested,only myself and he said that it
was a shootout that occurredafter that with me and him and
(24:31):
you got arrested for that.
Yes, I did.
I can have my people send youthe documents of that and other
shootings.
Some had nothing to do with me.
That will show you.
The shootings of those dateswere part of my discovery.
Yeah, Then he tried to lie andsay it had something to do with
(24:52):
his friend getting killed in ahouse fire.
I had nothing to do with any ofthat kind of stuff, it was an
electrical fire.
And I'm still prosecutors stillbring that up to this day on me
.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
This call is from a federal prison.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Also real quick.
I would like to once again tellthese young people out there
please listen to this.
Like the stuff that you see onTV about rappers and gangsters,
like this stuff is false.
I don't condone this and Idon't want you to do this.
This is really wrong.
I actually have a guy with oneof my co-defendants, ramon
Vaughn, about a grouporganization called Occupy the
(25:30):
Block to help young people todeter them from these kind of
things, and I commend peoplelike Malcolm Penn and their True
to Life organization and Iencourage people to go and
donate to these places and spendtime with these places, to
spend time with the youth.
The youth is important to getto.
And also I want to saysomething.
(25:57):
You know, I really got offendedone day when I heard on a song.
A guy named C Black mentionedme.
I like the song, I really likethe song and I think this guy
has a wonderful talent and Ifeel he's a wonderful rapper and
I would love to see him blow up.
And he's from Staten Island,born and raised, and I would
like to people and to otherpeople go support this guy.
And I reached out to this guy.
I had my people talk to him andyou know he was like I only
(26:22):
rapped about it because I heardthis and that's what people were
saying and I said I fullyunderstand.
And I explained to him how Ilike this song and I like other
songs that he's done and I'mproud of this guy.
So people listen to his stuffand he told me that you know.
He would say you know, if I seeit written down, I will give
(26:46):
you an apology.
I don't care about an apology,I know what I did in there, but
I didn't do it and did you clearthat up with him?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yes, we did, and where did y'all leave off?
Did he say he's going to issuethat apology?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I mean, if he does, he does.
You know, I feel he's a goodperson and I feel he has a
wonderful career and I wouldlove to see him further his
career and he sounded like avery intelligent young man.
I've never met him before.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah, I know C-Black personally.
That's my man.
He's a good guy.
Yes, I believe he is.
This interview is about to becut short because your time is
about to run out.
So, before it ends, do you haveanything you want to say to the
people, any message you want todeliver to clear your name or
(27:41):
get anything off your chest?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Yes, I've sent paperwork.
I've had sent paperwork to MrElia Cotto over here and you can
see that all this stuff waslies.
I didn't come out with thisstuff in the past because the
feds were threatening me becauseof the ongoing cases that Mr
Spree had going on saying thatif I would indulge this that
they would charge me withtampering with witnesses and
(28:04):
messing up their cases.
So at the end of the day Inever told on anybody.
If they told that they're fullof crap and that said anything
else you want to say.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Not right now, but if there's anything else that I'll
need to clear up, you know,because once I put the interview
out, a lot of people are goingto have some questions, so we'll
probably have to circle back.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
No problem, I don't have a problem with that, Elliot
, and I thank you, and you knowhow to get in touch with me
through my peoples anytime youwant.
Also, I really emphasize on thepeople that, especially these
young people.
Man, please don't live a lifethat I lived.
It's not good, it's not cool.
It's not cool.
(28:52):
You wind up in here with allthis time.
You could lose your families,you could lose your loved ones,
your girls, whatever.
Please go on the right path andif anybody needs any help and
me talking to them about it, Ifeel free to reach out to me.
I will try to help you any wayI can, and all I wanted to do
was clear my name.
(29:12):
I let it go on for so longbecause of the threats of being
arrested and stuff like that,but it gets too much to you
sometimes.
So with that I'll end this and,Elliot, thank you.
Feel free to reach out to meanytime and thank you for this
opportunity.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
And I respect and commend your platform and your
podcast.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
All right, thank you very much.
Have a your podcast.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
All right, thank you very much.
Have a nice night, yes, sir.
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