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The one and only Seth Grossman, who I
know has a lot to say about a
lot of things, and maybe this is one
of them. Seth, good morning.
Yes. There certainly is a lot of turmoil,
and we talk about it every Saturday morning
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lot of times at Liberty and Prosperity, we
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months before it becomes mainstream news. So to
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ahead of the curve, pay attention to what
we're talking about.
Because we're just doing we're not especially
smart or we don't have inside information,
but as Benjamin Franklin observed three hundred years
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ago, just ordinary Americans
having honest conversations with each other and sharing
information
will be better informed than your,
you know, highly paid experts
who can't say what's on their mind because
they have to follow an agenda to keep
their paycheck.
So you're more likely to get the truth
from ordinary people having ordinary open discussions
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than from the so called experts you see,
you know, and all these government agencies are
on a lot of your, your TV news
shows. So that's what we do.
I consider you an expert.
Right. But people say, well, how do I
know all this stuff if they're so smart?
Well, because I read books, and I talk
to people about the books I read, and
I talk to other people who also read
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books. And and that's how you get smart,
And and a
lot of the best informed people like Charlie
Kirk,
one of the best debaters America ever had,
was self taught. Just,
got smart
just by reading books and by having open
conversations with other people who read books.
And in a way, that's what what Bible
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studies,
was all about. And that's what made Americans,
very
smart people even when, you know, in the
early days of America, people only had two
or three books in their house. One of
them was the Bible.
Anyway, part of the turmoil, I don't know
that you followed this, a horrible murder
of two 17 year old girls in Cranston,
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New Jersey
by a 17 year old boy.
The boy had been rejected by one of
the girls
and he stalked her for three months. Jeez.
And the family tried to stop him. They
tried to get restraining orders.
They were all dismissed. They tried to bring
charges in court. They were all dismissed.
Turns out that the boy's father
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was a cop and his uncle was a
police chief.
Last Monday,
that girl and one of her friends were
riding bikes in their suburban town
of Cranford
and a 17 year old boy driving the
family's jeep,
ran them both over and killed them
and then posted a video of himself,
bragging about on social media.
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This is what's going on.
You know, we need the death penalty back
in New Jersey. We need to have the
idea
that people are
responsible for what they do.
So it's just, you know, we can't let
this stuff become normal,
because you're right. It is becoming normal because
we're not we're coming up with all these
excuses
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not to hold people accountable, and and that
has got to change.
And that means something very often to hold
people accountable. You have to make yourself unpopular.
You have to, you know, speak out against
people in your neighborhood. You have to talk
out about, people,
who who have prominent positions in the community.
And that's just the typical,
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tragedy.
And it it didn't say it wasn't racial,
wasn't,
based on ideology.
You just have these,
kids, these or being taught,
not to deal with real people in real
world. I mean, you see these kids
spending hours and hours playing video games
where they push a button and they and
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they kill somebody on a on a TV
screen.
And it's it's it's a game. It's not
a reality. They don't
know, you know, how they're affecting people's lives.
So it's just, another wake wake up call,
another day in New Jersey.
That's a shame. You know? That that is
a real shame.
But but you're right. You know? Reality got
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kinda gets blurred
with with, all these video games that they
play. Right. Right. Yeah. And and you you
combine that with the idea that everybody is
entitled, you know,
to to to their feelings. You know, what
what what you you have to you have
to make me feel important
as opposed to learning how to,
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put aside your personal feelings to to work
with other people and understand other people and
get along with other people. And that's totally
missing
from our whole school education system.
Meanwhile, in in in another,
education story,
in in the town of Roxbury, New Jersey,
you had,
two women were on the school board.
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And they were talking, they were complaining about
the pornographic books,
in their school library. You're talking about an
elementary school that were brought there by a
woke school librarian.
And by the way, most school librarians are
woke because in order to be qualified to
be a librarian,
you have to be accredited by the, you
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know, American Library Association,
that is run by some really sick people
working, you know, doing some really sick agendas.
So here you have these librarians are the
first to tell you, oh, the,
you know, the conservatives and the Christians wanna
wanna censor all these books.
Meanwhile, they already censored Huckleberry
Finn. They they censored Frederick Douglass.
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You know, none of these books, a biography
on on on John Rockefeller, a biography on
Andrew Carnegie. Now all these books are banned.
You won't find them in a single school
library.
But if you would say, well, you know,
we think that these
are trying to groom,
you know, 10 year old, 11 year old,
and 12 year olds. To think that it's
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normal that if you're a boy, you want
to be a girl, or you're a girl,
you want to be a boy, and you
just take the right medication,
and you talk to your school counselors, and
don't tell your,
your parents about it. You know, this whole
sick culture developing in our schools,
you know,
that that is, you know, the people who
object to what are being called the haters.
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And you had a case where the school
librarian
sued these two parents on the school board
for libel for just saying
exactly what I just said right now about
how putting these kind of books in libraries
is causing all these bad things to happen.
And they were sued for libel. So finally,
after two and a half years of litigation
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and put these poor women through the, you
know, through the ringer, the judge dismissed the
libel case and said that these women were
making political comments, and they had the right
to say what they said.
But, just as a lawyer,
it's very important,
to understand
how the legal system often gets misused.
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So if you are posting on anything on
Facebook or on Twitter, and you're giving an
opinion about somebody,
you can't be sued for having an opinion.
You can be sued for stating something as
a fact. So always be careful when you're
posting stuff,
when you're saying that somebody is
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is, you know, corrupting kids or they're they're
doing pornography.
Be very careful to say, in my opinion,
they're doing this. This is just some legal
advice. So even though these two women
had the lawsuit dismissed,
they still had to expend had the expense
of, hiring lawyers and having this lawsuit
hanging over their heads,
for two and a half years. So I
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just wanted to bring that up.
Legal advice from Seth Grossman.
I I love it. You know?
Even though I'm retired, I still
Meanwhile, we we I I I had to
hear this at at synagogue,
you know, for the
Yom Kippur holiday.
Somebody told me that somebody had told them
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that they were at a liberty and prosperity
meeting,
last Saturday
and and thought that we that they were
offended by we were talking about religion
in a, liberty and prosperity
breakfast discussion.
But let me tell you, why we were
doing that. We were talking about Charlie Kirk,
and we were talking about remarks made,
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at the, memorial service for Charlie Kirk two
weeks ago.
And a lot of Americans, especially American Jews,
just assume
that you have all these rights that,
you know, that you you have a right
to not be offended. You have a right
not nobody bothers you. You have a right
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to to do to do and say whatever
you please, and you'll be protected.
And it's true. We've had that in America
for three hundred years.
But we forget that this is very rare
in most of the world and most of
human history.
If you got on the wrong side of
somebody in town, they could beat you up
and kill you. You you had no rights.
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The only reason America became a very special
place
is because we were settled
by people who believed in basic Judeo Christian
bible values of your neighbor as yourself, the
10 commandments,
and so on.
We were settled by, Quakers in South Jersey,
and and they produced this very tolerant
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society. But if you say you have the
right to do and say anything you please
and offend the people
who created this system, that system's gonna gonna
fall apart.
And, and and I think that's what's been
happening,
you know, to too many,
you know, Americans, too many Jews. They say,
well, I have the right to do this.
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It's written in the constitution. It's written here.
It's written in the law. But as they
say in all these third world countries, there's
an expression in Haiti. They say
constitutions
are made out of paper
and but bayonets are made out of steel.
So the only reason that the law and
constitution works is when you have a whole
lot of people
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who who wanna make it work because it's
the right thing.
But if you have people who just feel
they could do and say anything they could
get away with and hurt other people,
then then you have no protection. And we're
living just like all these third world countries
that people are running away from.
So,
so so that's why we talked about religion,
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last, week.
Because if we lose that moral basis, you
know, in America,
whether it was George Washington, John Adams, Benjamin
Franklin,
some of them were religious, some of them
were not religious, but they all agreed
that if you don't have a moral society
that does the right thing because it's the
right thing and not because they're afraid of
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getting caught,
then, you know, this is gonna be a
very, very unhappy life for a whole lot
of people.
Yeah. That's true.
That that must have that must have really
got you.
You're you're somewhere else and somebody says, oh,
by the way, I was at a meeting
of liberty and prosperity and you were talking
about religion. Oh, you know.
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Yeah. It would have been much better, God
forbid, the person who was offended to to
talk to me about it. Yes. Talk to
someone else, but but to talk to a
friend who talks to a friend who then
tells me, you know, come on. That that's
that's not how to do things. No. That's
right.
Now now as you you know, one of
the things when you were talking about the,
you know, Trump being called a Nazi,
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that's another big problem
that has been going on
in general, but especially in the Jewish community.
We got this false idea
that, you know, the extreme left
or your communist and your socialist,
and and your extreme right or your Nazis
and your fascist.
And that is a whole fake that whole
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left right thing is completely fake,
and it was invented by communist after World
War two.
And the reason the communist in Russia invented
that whole left right nonsense
was because people forget. Yeah. When World War
two started, how did World War two started?
It started with communist Russia with Stalin
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made an alliance with Nazi
Hitler.
And and so they were not opposite. They
were friends. In fact, when you think about
it,
the word Nazi means national socialism.
And and communist used to call themselves socialist.
And it all goes back to the same
idea
in their little sick world
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that too many people,
a few people have too much
and other people have too little. So the
whole purpose whether you're a communist, a socialist,
or a fascist, or nazi
is to decide who has too much, who
has too little. So you take away from
the people who have too much and you
give it to the people who have too
little. And who are the most powerful people
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in the country?
The people who decide
running the country, the dictators,
who decide who has too much and who
has too little. So whether and and the
only difference between the
communist and the Nazis is the communist said,
well, we're gonna, you know, take from the
landowners and the factory owners. And we're gonna
kill them and take their factories and take
their land. And we're gonna give it to
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the people, the poor people. And who are
the poor people? Other the poor people who
support us and keep us in power.
And all that the Nazis did was they
said, oh, we don't have to kill all
the landowners and we don't have to kill
all the factory owners. Let's just take the
stuff from the Jews and then give it
to the rest of the people. So really
Nazism,
Socialism, Fascism, Communism, they're all part of the
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same thing.
And because we got into this left right
thing,
you you have all these people justifying
what we call the Antifa, the anti fascist.
They'll say, yeah, the the anti fascist, they're
beating up people,
they're,
you know, they're threatening people. They're killing people.
But it's okay because they're against the fascist.
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You actually had that in the press of
Atlantic City, the three sixty supplement.
So once you realize that either you believe
that each individual is important,
that each individual should be protected,
that everybody has the right to work as
hard or as little as they want to,
and to get the benefits of what they,
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of their good decisions, they get the they
suffer the consequences of the bad decisions
and you let everybody be treated equally. If
you have that system,
that's the American system that worked for four
hundred years. But if you get into the
system, well, some people are good and some
people are bad and we need people in
government to take away from the bad or
to punish the bad and give to the
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good. That's where you get,
these,
these crazy young people behind their computer screens
saying oh, this guy's a fascist. I'm gonna
kill him or I'm going to threaten him,
or I'm gonna, you know, have demonstrations.
We've got to get back to looking at
each individual
based on an individual. And, it took us
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really America three hundred years to build this
system, but this system is being taken apart
in just one generation. So,
that's the job as boomers.
And by the way, that's why both the
radicals in both the left and the right
are saying, well, we can't wait till those
boomers are dead so we could run the
country our way.
And and that's why
I'm 76 now. I'm asking everybody in their
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sixties and seventies who remember
what a great country we had.
To take an interest in talking to your
kids and and going to our website and
sharing our information and and listening to programs
like this.
But not just listen to programs like this
because your kids and your grandkids they're not
listening to these programs. They're not going to
liberty and prosperity. You have to be the
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one to talk to them once in a
while and just mention what a great country
we used to have and just suggest
different ways that, that that maybe if we
did those things again,
we'd be better off. And and of course
your kids, you know, say what what I
you're being a Nazi, you're being a fascist.
You'll say no. I'm not a Nazi. I'm
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not. We we live that life and you
could show pictures of the 50s and 60s
and play the old 50s and 60s songs
and actually make them watch one of the
old movies.
You know, that's how we have to reach
the people little by little. Because our schools
and the Hollywood pop culture
and the media doing everything they can
to convince our kids that you and I,
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the boomers,
grew up in this horrible, fascist, racist, evil,
violent country when the the total opposite was
true. That's right. Anyway, I got my soapbox
box, and it's it's time to get over
to the meeting that starts at 09:30
at, in Somers Point at Grove Avenue and
New Road.
Thank you. Thanks, Seth. Seth Grossman, Liberty and
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Prosperity, and the website libertyandprosperity.com.