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December 20, 2025 15 mins
This broadcast from Liberty and Prosperity discusses local Atlantic County issues, national politics, and cultural shifts. The group meets every Saturday morning at Sal’s Coal Fired Pizza in Somers Point, NJ. Local and Legal Issues Marty Small Trial: The speakers discussed the recent acquittal of Atlantic City Mayor Marty Small. They argued the case was politically motivated, comparing the situation to the legal challenges faced by Donald Trump and highlighting the difficulties of parenting teenagers in the public eye. Business Closures: The upcoming closure of Big Wally’s Furniture in Somers Point was presented as a symptom of a broader social issue. The speakers noted that younger generations often lack interest in taking over established family businesses, leading to the loss of local economic "backbones". Technology and Education Digital Learning: Based on observations of grandchildren in Florida, the speakers critiqued the use of tablets and "educational" games in schools. They argued these apps prioritize button-mashing over "persistence" and critical thinking, which they believe are the true keys to success. Media Influence: The speakers expressed concern over children's media, specifically mentioning the "K-pop Demon Hunters" cartoon. They critiqued its departure from traditional values and the perceived sexualization of characters at a young age. National Political Climate Republican Fracturing: The news of Elise Stefanik leaving Congress was interpreted as a warning sign for the GOP. The speakers described a "blood很有" (blood-bath) scenario where internal party splits between various media-driven factions make it difficult for candidates to secure nominations and win general elections. Messaging Failures: Regarding Donald Trump’s immigration policies, the speakers argued he is not receiving "credit" for enforcement because he hasn't effectively explained the why behind his actions. They compared this to Jack Ciattarelli’s campaign, suggesting that if leaders don't explicitly link policies to outcomes (like high utility rates), the public will remain skeptical.
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Alright. So as I always begin,
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It's interesting because before I left for Florida,

(00:44):
I I made notes. I was away for
the week, and I made notes before I
left of what to talk about when I
came back.
And I have my notes before the trial
came out on Marty Small.
And the notes I had, I had four
bullet points. Number one, political.
Number two, raising teens.
Number three,

(01:04):
the government interfering with families. And four,
Donald Trump.
So you actually said each of the four
talking points
that I wanted to talk about about the
Marty Small case. And I didn't I didn't
even know that you had done that. You
know?
But as far as political, I said from
the very beginning,
if Marty Small had been anything other

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than a Democratic mayor,
of Atlantic City with a, you know, Republican
prosecutor handpicked by
senator Vince Paulistina,
as you hear him say, would these charges
have been brought? And I kept saying to
myself, no.
It would not.
Number two is a, as a parent who

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raised teens.
You know,
I probably didn't do what Marty Small did,
but I sure felt like it.
And, and, you know, it's just a very
difficult
job to raise any teens,
including teenage girls.
Number three, about the government interfering with families.
I mean, it happens so often on such

(02:08):
a subtle way.
I'm convinced
that the reason the schools
use all these different terms
to teach, say, arithmetic or or teach, any
subject,
they deliberately want the parents to appear stupid.
They don't want,
you know, the parents to say, oh, I
could help you with your homework. I could
I could do this.
They they teach a completely different technique.

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When it comes to the the sexual materials
that they teach the kids,
they tell the kids, your parents don't know
anything. Don't trust them. Talk to your teacher.
Confide in your teacher. Confide in your school
nurse.
Don't deal with the parents. I mean, it's
been a
systematic campaign
for the, for the teachers to just shove
parents aside.

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And when parents do try to get involved,
you know, to to actively
raise their kids the way
they think is best,
the government uses all these direct and indirect
ways to,
you know, to to to hurt the parents.
So I saw all those things and and
it remind me of what they did to
Trump. So so everything you just said about

(03:13):
the Marty Small case, I saw it the
same way.
And and I I do agree that the
jury did the right thing. Yes. I I
I agree. You know? And I I said
that from the very beginning that,
I thought he was he was gonna
be acquitted, but,
and and then when the jury, you know,
they started asking questions
and and, you know, this whole thing about
the broom and the the it it just

(03:35):
seemed like a he said, she said. And
so so that It it almost it, yeah,
it almost sounds like what every parent of
every teenager has gone through at some point
in that long and painful process. Yes. So,
anyway, so many other things going on this
week. And and and one thing that,
I'd like to comment, I don't know if
anyone did yet,

(03:56):
but there have been commercials,
during the past two weeks about Big Wally's
Furniture Store
going out of business in Somers Point. Yes.
I've heard that. Yes. And and to me,
that's not just a business issue, but that's
really a political and a social issue.
Because,
you know, we have countless small businesses.
And, obviously, the people who run the businesses

(04:18):
get old, they retire,
but they don't know but in the past,
they didn't all go out of business. We
noticed that they're all going out of business.
Why is that? It's because young people oh,
a lot of parents don't have kids. A
lot of parents aren't getting married. A lot
of, grandparents don't have grandkids
for a whole lot of reasons. But also,

(04:39):
you have, a a lot of, you know,
kids and grandkids don't wanna go into business
anymore.
They don't want their grandpa's business. They don't
want their father's business.
And and then you don't even have other
people out there. It used to be, well,
if your own kids or grandkids don't wanna
have your business,
then then somebody else would wanna buy and

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and learn the business.
I just know personally so many,
old farmers
and and so many old people with a
a great business who spent their whole life
building up this business
thinking the business would be like their retirement
income. You know? And and then they find
out they have nothing. They just sell it
off for the assets and the building,

(05:19):
gets empty.
And I think that's a a social thing.
I think that's a political thing
that we we have trained our young people,
to do what? To wanna save the world?
To wanna, you know, save the planet?
Whatever. But not to, work to work for
somebody, to be employed, to sit behind a
desk. Whatever it is, our schools and our
culture

(05:40):
are not preparing
young people
to accept the responsibility
of running a business, and a business is
a backbone
of America. So it's something we're losing,
and and I just think it's a tragic
situation that very few people talk about.
How do we fix that? Do you want
the the error, think about that?

(06:00):
I I I don't, but you can fix
something if you don't know about it and
if you don't talk about it. So that's
why,
even though when I was listening to those
commercials,
about, you know, getting a discount because we're
going out of business, you know, I had
a little sadness in it, and I thought
I I just wanted to bring that up.
So I'm sure we'll be talking about it
at our Liberty and Prosperity breakfast. Yes.

(06:21):
Oh oh, meanwhile, I I was away for
to spend Hanukkah with my grandkids in Florida.
So I wanna give a heads up to
my boomer friend celebrating
Christmas.
And that is find out what toys your
grandchildren
are getting
and watch the YouTube video tutorials
on how to play with them. Because if
you don't, you're gonna be totally helpless.

(06:43):
My my my grandkids were are fascinated with
this electric
electronic hamster in a ball
and several electronic dogs.
And I didn't have a clue as to
what to do with any of them until
I spent about an hour and a half
watching these,
videos, you know, YouTube videos on how to
do it. So I just wanna give a

(07:03):
heads up, you know,
for with Christmas coming up. That that's a
new thing. That's that's another thing we have
to do. Right?
Yeah. And and and also with with dealing
with a kindergartner and a first grader, you
know, six years old and seven years old.
This is in the Florida public school, so
I'm pretty sure it's the same all over.

(07:23):
So already,
they have their,
their tablets, their computer tablets. They have their
user IDs. They have their passwords.
They know how to get to their portal
and and log in.
And and on the one hand, it's it
makes it easy for the parents and grandparents
because it keeps them busy for a little
bit. But,
you know, as I watch closely, you know,

(07:44):
we really have to watch out for it
because these so called video education games
are really not education.
And and when I think about it, the
most valuable skill that you could possibly learn
in school and in life is persistence.
It's like if you want to do something
or you wanna know something,

(08:05):
but you can't do it.
The key to success, in my opinion, is
you just have to think. You have to
work out the problem in your head.
Think of what you know, what you don't
know. You try this. Does it work? You
try that. Does it not work?
The the thing with these videos
is the kids, they they show a problem
on the screen,

(08:25):
and then the kids just start randomly pushing
buttons until the right answer pops up. So
so the fact that they're they just think
that you just push buttons on the machine
to know what the right thing is. And
and the fact is you don't have to
think.
You just, wait till the machine tells you
what to do. I think that's a very,
you know, dangerous
trend, and I don't know if any other

(08:46):
parents or grandparents see that the same way.
Yeah. That that that is disturbing. Yeah.
It really is. I agree with you. And
and and by the way, to to to
show how totally out of touch I I
was, you know, the six year old and
the seven year old are enamored
with these cartoon figures called the k pop

(09:06):
demon hunters.
Have you ever heard of them? Yes. I
heard of them. Yes.
Where the hero is roomy.
And and again,
as far as it takes every traditional value,
turns it on its head,
it's like the the girls
won everything. There's no place for boys.
The girls have purple hair,

(09:27):
other kinds of hair. They're highly sexualized even
though there are no boys in the picture.
But, it just,
shows how at such a young age, you
know, age six years old, seven years old,
they're already turning into this culture
that that we,
adults, at least the boomers, just have no
idea
of what's going on. And I think that's

(09:47):
by design.
So, it's not enough when you see your,
five year old, six year old, seven year
old, you know, watching cartoons playing, you know,
with the computers,
really every parent, every grandparent really has to
have a close look
at at what they're watching,
and, and and just interact. Just talk. Well,
what is this character doing and why are

(10:08):
they doing this? Because if you think you
just, oh, it's wonderful. I'll just do the
dishes. I'll just, you know, vacuum clean up
the house. The kids are busy watching the
the the screen.
Yeah. We got to be very careful as
to who's raising our kids. So I
I had a lovely time with the grandkids,
but, you know, you just have to be
alert all the time. Yes. That's right. Well

(10:29):
well, my niece won't let her kids watch
that. So
Well, that's good. So so whatever she thinks
of on politics, she she she's on
the right track and and raising her kids.
Meanwhile,
so many other things going on that that
I watch from a distance.
I guess Elise Stefanik,
the, very bright,

(10:50):
Republican,
congresswoman
in New York,
announced, I guess yesterday, that she wasn't running
for, governor after all and that she's put
in Congress.
And that should be a very, very serious
warning sign
of of the bloodbath
that Republicans are going to be facing,
unless we get a handle

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on on delivering a message
and and just reaching, you know, reaching people
because I just don't feel we're doing that
right now.
And, obviously,
Elise Stefanik,
after spending years and years and years preparing
for a career in congress, preparing to run
for governor.
When she decides well I'm not gonna run,

(11:33):
it's it's not that she's not running that's
not that that's important. It's why she's not
running.
And I think she's not running because she
knows that at this point
she doesn't stand a chance of winning.
Even to to get the Republican nomination,
she'd have to fight in a primary election
because the Republicans,
are split in so many different ways between

(11:54):
the, you know, the Tucker Carlson, Candace Owen,
and Megyn Kelly faction on one side, Ben
Shapiro, Barry Weiss, Megan McCain on the other.
As we saw in the Turning Point USA,
I I think,
Elise Stefanik said, well, gee, I'm gonna have
to, you know, beat my brains out just
to get the nomination. And then I I
win the nomination.
I'm gonna get clobbered by the Democrats in

(12:16):
November, so why bother?
At least that's my take on it. And
I'm just curious what what others are thinking.
I agree with you, you know, and I
found that very disturbing,
you know. And, and and by the way,
to answer the question that came up last
week,
yeah, one of the things that Trump is
doing in an outstanding manner

(12:37):
is, enforcing immigration
laws and and the fact that we don't
have a problem,
at the border anymore, and we are deporting
a whole lot of dangerous people. But you
and some others asked the question, well, why
why isn't Trump popular? Why isn't he getting
any credit for it?
And I think the key is,
Trump has not it always almost puts Trump

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in the same situation as Jack Ciattarelli,
with, getting the message out on why electricity
prices were high.
You can't expect the people to,
agree with something
if the leader is not saying it.
So because Chitarelli never said your electric bills
are high because Murphy shut down six power

(13:20):
plants. And if you vote for me, I'm
gonna build the six power plants.
We talked about it all the time, but
Ciattarelli never talked about it. Yeah. That's right.
And the same and and the same thing
with, with the immigration.
We said for years
that,
enforcing immigration laws,
it's gonna be a dirty,
ugly business to watch on TV. You're gonna

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see, people arrested.
You're gonna see crying women. You're gonna see
crying children. But if we don't enforce our
immigration laws and enforce our
laws and enforce our borders, we don't have
a country.
And so Trump is doing exactly that, but
Trump never said
why he's doing it. He would say stuff
like, well, we're gonna get rid of the
worst deal worse. We're gonna get rid of

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the criminals. We're gonna get rid of drugs.
So when people see, like, just an ordinary
person,
getting dragged out of a at the home
depot, you know, who is out there looking
for work,
people are saying, well, wait. Well, Trump said
he was just going after the worst of
the worst. Here's just an honest guy trying
to make a living.
So
because neither Trump nor the other,

(14:25):
top people, Homan said,
this is why we have to do it.
We could have a zillion people at the
border. We could have a wall 50 feet
high. But unless we arrest illegals who are
always already here, we can never enforce the
border. So I think by failing to deliver
that key message,
that's why the popularity
is not matching,

(14:46):
the great job that we're doing at the
border. Anyway, it's
time to start the liberty and prosperity meeting
in Somers Point if if you're hearing me
on a Saturday.
And, Merry Christmas to you and all your
listeners, and happy New Year. And and thank
you very much for letting us deliver this
message of liberty and prosperity
every Saturday for this past year. Thank you.
Thank you, Seth. And happy Hanukkah and Merry

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Christmas to Liberty and Prosperity. Again, it the
meeting starts at 09:30 at Sal's Coal Fired
Pizza,
Groveland Avenue in Somers Point.
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