April 5, 2025 • 19 mins
Liberty and Prosperity president, Brian Fitzherbert joins Anne Baker on WOND radio for "Fitzherbert Friday," and they talk about tariff's, DOGE, unhinged protests, and more.
April 5, 2025
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Oh, yeah. Good morning, everyone. This is Anne
Baker on Talking with Anne, and I am
with Brian Fitzherbert on Fitzherbert Friday.
Brian, there's so much going on,
with the system, with goods, with the tariffs.
Do you think, it's possible to get rid
of most of the regulatory
system that we've got that are nothing more
than excess taxes
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placed on the backs of the owners of
these industries?
I I think what president Trump is doing
is he's trying to make at least at
a minimum a dent, if not an overarching
reshuffling
of the system as we know it. And,
again, you go back in the history,
the development of the World Trade Organization,
the,
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development at first of NAFTA that then Trump
renegotiated into USMCA with Canada and Mexico,
and the export of a lot of jobs
industry
and,
and and cash wealth investment
has happened. I said in the last segment
that there's a difference between the standard of
living, which we increase here in The United
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States, and that most other countries do, which
is increased wealth, meaning investment
or holding of assets, United States assets instead
of anything else. And that's why, again,
the market is reacting to potentially artificial
demand
that wasn't real. I'll use Doge as the
example. We had all this labor in the
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United States government, and you're seeing these layoffs,
health and human services.
You're seeing,
anywhere else where there's been cuts from a
labor standpoint. They they cut 75,000
people of the federal government just from the
voluntary separation program. And the question is, were
all those jobs needed with regard to,
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reducibility? What are they actually producing? What are
they doing?
And I think I think, ultimately, that's where
we have to start as as a conversation.
Yeah. But there are so many departments that
were built,
on the backs of the taxpayer,
and it was done simply to have good
employment
numbers for the Democrats,
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unnecessary
waste, the bureaucracy.
Why do you think people are still
screaming about Elon Musk? Don't they understand
that what he's doing is good for them?
Yeah. I think they they need a new
boogeyman because for ten years, they've tried to
go after Donald Trump and failed miserably. And
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they think, okay. If we can't touch Donald
Trump, maybe we can touch Elon Musk, and
he's he's become the new boogeyman,
that they can attack. And now by extension,
you're seeing Tesla owners' cars keyed, lit on
fire, or other crazy stuff in an attempt
to try to, you know, tank his wealth
or make him suffer or something of that
nature. I mean, I have to laugh. You
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know, when conservatives and Republicans boycott, you just
see,
stock on the shelves.
When
Democrats and Liberals allegedly boycott, they burn things
to the ground, they ride in the street,
and they do things that cause a lot
of damage.
So I think,
again, most people are too busy
living their lives. They're working. They're raising their
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kids,
to pay attention to all the the nuances
with regard to,
the political stuff, and they just can get
the headlines. They can just get what someone
tells them or or some blip they hear
on the news instead of the full story.
And
I think, ultimately,
that's that's to a detriment. And, again,
Trump announced these tariffs
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on April 2. It's April 4. It's been
two days. Yes. The market has gone down
in reaction to that, but it's only been
two days. It's the economies
aren't crashing. I think Marco Rubio had said
that. The markets
are reacting
again to the unknown knowns and the unknown
unknowns.
So, ultimately,
people need to pay attention
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more and understand.
And, again, the trade deficits,
these have been ignored by both sides of
the aisle for decades,
and it's only now where Trump can actually
maximize leverage with the United States government
and have the team he wants in place
to execute this that we can get to
us. Because guess what? Think about this. Everyone's
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concerned about, well, he's gonna mess this up.
He's gonna mess that up. We don't really
know that. And even more so, if he
didn't do this, you wanna keep the status
quo of $36,000,000,000,000
of debt with a year over year $2,000,000,000,000
deficits? You have to change something,
and that's what Trump is doing. He's reshuffling
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the economic deck. He's having Elon Musk and
Doge find at least 1 to $2,000,000,000,000
in cuts of spending, and then he wants
to grow the economy 1 to $2,000,000,000,000
in in from an economic standpoint. We can't
continue a $7,000,000,000,000
spending budget
with a $5,000,000,000,000
revenue, creating a $2,000,000,000,000
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a year
deficit that then adds to our $36,000,000,000,000
of debt that becomes 38,000,000,000,000, then all the
interest payments, then it becomes 40,000,000,000,000, and so
on and so on. Remember, at the turn
of the century,
the national debt
was roughly $6,000,000,000,000.
20 5 years later, that $6,000,000,000,000
has turned into $36,000,000,000,000.
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Wow. It's not sustainable. We have to change
something. We have to cut spending, and we
have to grow the economy, and we have
to be efficient with where those dollars are
going. Again, the labor, the producibility,
what are people producing?
And if
Elon Musk can go and buy Twitter, turn
it into x, lay off 80%
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of the labor force,
and still
operate and now make a profit a couple
years later,
what's to say that the same thing isn't
can be contrived with US government and other
entities?
And this again, this is where you have
to right size
what is artificial demand, which has been created
by government and Democrats
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with all this nonsense that we've now seen
on a daily basis from the Doge team
that Trump is trying to fix from an
economic standpoint.
It's taxes, it's regulations,
it's tariffs, it's barriers to entry with other
countries, it's currency manipulation,
it's labor, it's con it's all these things
that he's addressing, and it's only been three
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months.
Give him give him the chance for
six months to try and fix this. Give
him the chance because
otherwise,
we're gonna go bankrupt anyway, and we'll go
like the Soviet Union. We'll collapse.
Oh, boy. Well, the left, I think, would
be thrilled.
In fact, that's the way it looks.
Left wing Democrats think that,
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putting down Doge, putting down Donald Trump,
allowing our country really to collapse
would be a good thing for them.
And as you said, we would be like
Russia.
Of course. And you're I don't even wanna
think about those what if scenarios because you'll
have a bunch of states that would unite.
Let's say, New England and and the Northeast
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would become something. And, you know, California well,
California is a whole another problem. No one
no one's gonna wanna team with California because
they have so much debt and everything else
in between. But you you're gonna sell these
breakdowns that we we don't wanna deal with
because we have to be we have to
have our economic house in order. What happens
from the personal standpoint? We all have
our budgets. We all have our incomes.
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We all have our bills. We have some
debt that we have to service and manage.
What happens if all of that revenue collapses
and you can't sustain? You go you go
bankruptcy and you have to sell off assets
and fire
sales. Same thing can be said with with
a country. Hopefully, it doesn't. And what happens
if we don't do that? We print money
and then we have inflation, then we have
all these massive problems
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that we shouldn't even have to be exposed
to. We have to get our stuff in
order. We have to stop having the debt
accumulate. We have to stop spending
money that hasn't even been created for decades
to come, meaning passing on that debt to
our kids and grandkids and so on. You
have to get this stuff in order, and
Trump finally has a position
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of influence
and a team that can assist him in
doing that where we can finally
do what's necessary. And, again, he took a
maximalist position
with regard to other countries. And every one
of these countries are calling the White House
saying, okay. I'll take our tariffs off this
if if you take it off ours because
they cannot withstand it for a period of
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time. And that's the whole point. If Trump
can even the playing field, win. If they
don't even the playing field and then in
the short term, we get more revenue as
a result of tariffs that go into the
treasury, win. Then it maximizes
other opportunities for leverage.
Well, the opportunities
for leverage,
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it seems to be
that people don't understand that.
They absolutely
don't
don't get it.
And
we see with the protests on the street
against
Doge, against Elon Musk,
against Donald Trump.
We take note of who these people are.
And
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most of the time, it has to do
with students
who have been brainwashed
throughout their educational career,
and they're out on the streets. Do you
think they're going to have an effect because
they're always there? Do you think they're going
to have an effect in seeing the the
middle aged and old aged,
liberal progressives on the street as well with
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their signage. Are they going to have an
effect,
do you think, on what Donald Trump is
going to do or as other countries watch
them, would they do to respond?
Look. Everything's a political battle, and results matter.
And we've seen the results with Donald Trump
the first time he was in office. And
you're always gonna have protesters. You're always gonna
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have the Democrats, again, who are leaderless right
now. They have no rudder. They have no
issues.
They have no one to get behind. You
just had Cory Booker, our idiot senator here,
do a speech for twenty five hours on
the floor. It wasn't a filibuster. He wasn't
doing anything to protect or stop a particular
piece of legislation. He was just complaining that
Donald Trump is bad.
Nobody
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cares. Mhmm. Great. He didn't pee for twenty
five hours that we know of. Who knows?
Maybe he was wearing a diaper. But he
didn't pee for twenty five hours, and he
probably impacted his health as a result of
that. He's accomplished nothing. And he said twenty
five hours worth of nothing. He can speak
for twenty five hours and say nothing. So
my point is in all of this is
there's gonna be protesters. There's gonna be complaints.
There's gonna be all kinds of things to
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try to stop what Donald Trump is doing.
Impact people to try to say, you know
what? Donald
Trump isn't doing what he said. Think about
this. The Democrats who created this economic issue
with the cost of of goods and the
prices of things in the grocery store saying,
Donald Trump hasn't fixed this yet. The economy
is not fixed yet. It's been
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two months, maybe three months, maybe three months
with regard to what he's doing. Give him
the chance to do this. And if that
six months turns into materialistic gains, then again,
my point is use six months as a
barometer because that's about the time it's gonna
take congress to pass this new tax cuts
bill, get the get the economy going, and
have repercussions with regard to the tariffs, good,
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bad, or indifferent. And then he can continue
to grow on that in the next couple
years before the midterms. And, again, if Trump
is successful
with all of this, he's gonna have increases
in the midterms.
If he comes up short, you'll have historical
nuances where the out of party,
out of power party picks up seats in
the house. The senate, the map favor the
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Republican. Senate's not going anywhere.
But the house is the problem, and he's
gotta improve on that. And he's gotta improve
the economy, and that's what he's trying to
do. So they're gonna do everything they can
to try to create a political win, a
political statement to convince Trump to apply political
pressure to Trump and his people to abandon
the course. We saw this happen with the
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Democrats and Reagan when there was a recession
in '81, '80 '2 after he took office.
Right? He stayed the course. And what did
that materialize into? The ultimate of the eighties
and the economic powerhouse that carried on through
the nineties. And that's exactly what we need
to keep reminding people of because they don't
seem to get it.
Biden printed so much money
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over the time of COVID keeping people unnecessarily
home
that he, in fact, invited inflation, which went
close to 10%.
Do you think we we will ever recover
from what Biden did in flooding the markets
with dollars that meant so little
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at the end of the
day? Yeah. So that that's part of what
DOSA is doing, and this is why it's
a little complicated for those that are outside
of government contracting and what DOSA is doing
on a daily basis by doing these t
for c on these contracts. They're they're clawing
back money. Right? There's too many I think
Biden printed between 4 and $6,000,000,000,000
in four years, right, over the course. Obviously,
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you print more money, it it chases fewer
goods. Inflation happens. That's why we had in
June of twenty twenty two, inflation at 9.6
or 9.9, whatever it was, almost 10%.
So to fix that, you have to shrink
the money supply, which is what DOGE is
doing by t for seeing a lot of
these contracts
that were part of COVID funds and clawing
back that money, not spending that money, as
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well as Trump trying to grow the economy.
So it's not gonna happen overnight. It's likely
not gonna happen in six months, but it
will happen by the end of this year
assuming all these variables
go into place. Like I said, it's saying
the tax cuts that expire at the end
of this year, adding additional opportunities for people
to enhance disposable income and spending
so that the dollar can change hands faster,
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the velocity of the dollar. And even further,
with the tariffs even in the playing field
so that the cost of goods,
the price of things that we see goes
down
in the long term. Again, short term pain
for long term gain is is unfortunately where
we're going. And we've been in pain for
four years under the Biden administration economically, and
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we just gotta hold on a little bit
longer for Trump to fix Biden and the
Democrats' mess.
I don't know. He he really, the four
years Biden well, not Biden, but Obama and
whoever else was actually doing the,
the presidential deeds.
Those are the ones that I think we
still have to be concerned about. When we
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when we think of what happened during Biden's
time that left us in the lurch that
now Donald Trump jumped into it and is
trying to fix it.
Do we still have to worry about things
that Biden and his cohort are doing behind
the scenes
to try to destroy whatever Doge does? I
mean, we know that the politicians are seriously
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involved
in corruption and taking taxpayer dollars through NGOs.
Is there anything else we need to be
more concerned about?
Look. All these things are gonna go through
the judicial process, and ultimately, Supreme Court will
reinforce Donald Trump's power
of the executive branch and the delegation that
he's giving Elon Musk, etcetera. Because Elon Musk,
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again, he wasn't in appointment. He's a special,
employee, which I think it's like a hundred
and twenty days or something like that,
that he can help him with. And again,
if they put the framework in place for
the rest of the Doge team to execute
once Elon is done. Because remember, this guy
versus guy on the face of the earth
and in the history of the world is
sleeping
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on the floor in the EOB in the
Eisenhower,
Executive Office Building. I mean,
we're so lucky to have this guy and
his brain to do this. So all this
stuff,
Elon Musk is leading by example, showing this
is how we do it. And each of
the department heads, the secretaries,
secretary of the treasury, secretary of state, secretary
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of defense, etcetera, are learning in this three
to four month period. Okay. This is what
Musk did. Okay. Now let's go do this
and take it further as we continue. Because
the amount of fraud, waste, and abuse that
we've seen,
like you said, with NGOs, nonprofits, and just
there's a hundred dollars in an account,
a month before they get a grant for
$2,000,000,000, and then they spend that $2,000,000,000.
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It's absurd. This is why things cost money.
It's artificial demand that's not real, and we
have to correct it. And that's what Trump
is doing. Do you think we have to
worry about the judiciary,
and these judges,
when it comes to actually prosecuting the people
that we we know because of Doge have
been committing vile acts, taking our taxpayer dollars
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for nothing and putting it in their own
pocket. Do you think we're going to see
any any kind of light in that regard?
Well, you know, the the the sad part
is most people try to go with the
assumption
that judges are nonpartisan
or,
whatever you wanna call it. But their very
presence in their position
was through politics and partisan
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because they had to get appointed or, in
other cases, elected.
So everything about a judge
that, unfortunately, the lexicon, which is accurate, it's
just unfortunate, that a Bush appointed judge or
a Obama appointed judge, a Trump appointed judge,
a Biden appointed judge, you have to assume
that their political philosophy
is going to drive and make a pretzel
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out of the law and the constitution to
get the outcome that they want. And that's,
again, why it's so imperative
that you get people that share the president's
view on the bench while he's got the
opportunity to do so.
Because what we're seeing are blatantly political decisions,
which again, the judge wasn't the judiciary wasn't
supposed to be that way, but guess what?
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This is what it is. And, unfortunately, we're
gonna see this. Ultimately, the Supreme Court, again,
you've heard me say this a million times,
it's not a six to three conservative majority.
It's a three three three. There are three
staunch conservatives. There are clearly three liberals, and
there are three moderates
that kinda fluctuate because they still believe that
there's an integrity of the court that could
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be nonpartisan. It's just not it's just not
real.
What
would you say about chief justice John Roberts?
This is an island.
I can't wait for him to retire.
Yeah. Because we've been looking into his his,
friendships
and discovering that this is a man perhaps
that doesn't belong on the Supreme Court of
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the United States.
Brian, are you gonna be able to stay
with us, or do you have to leave?
Because
I do have to go, unfortunately. So I
appreciate you having me. Oh, I love having
you, my friend. You are brilliant, and I
hope people have a little clearer view of
what Donald Trump is doing. The the the
short term,
pain
will end up being our learn long term
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gain, and, certainly, I think you put it
out there very clearly.
Brian, my love to everybody. See you soon,
and, please take care no matter where you
go.
You got my prayers with you.
I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on.
Oh, take care.
God bless.
Anyway,
Yeah. That's,
that's our friend. That's Brian Fitzherbert. And, boy,
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he is brilliant.
We can look at,
we can look at our own Elon Musk
and Doge. Brilliant.
Brian Fitzpatrick could go into any one of
the departments in our government, federal government, and
would make an impact, a positive impact for
us. Anyway, this is Anne Baker on talking
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with Anne on News Talk 1,492.3
w o n d.
Oh, yeah. Good morning, everyone. This is Anne
Baker on Talking with Anne, and I am
with Brian Fitzherbert on Fitzherbert Friday.
Brian, there's so much going on,
with the system, with goods, with the tariffs.
Do you think, it's possible to get rid
of most of the regulatory
system that we've got that are nothing more
than excess taxes
(00:22):
placed on the backs of the owners of
these industries?
I I think what president Trump is doing
is he's trying to make at least at
a minimum a dent, if not an overarching
reshuffling
of the system as we know it. And,
again, you go back in the history,
the development of the World Trade Organization,
the,
(00:43):
development at first of NAFTA that then Trump
renegotiated into USMCA with Canada and Mexico,
and the export of a lot of jobs
industry
and,
and and cash wealth investment
has happened. I said in the last segment
that there's a difference between the standard of
living, which we increase here in The United
(01:04):
States, and that most other countries do, which
is increased wealth, meaning investment
or holding of assets, United States assets instead
of anything else. And that's why, again,
the market is reacting to potentially artificial
demand
that wasn't real. I'll use Doge as the
example. We had all this labor in the
(01:25):
United States government, and you're seeing these layoffs,
health and human services.
You're seeing,
anywhere else where there's been cuts from a
labor standpoint. They they cut 75,000
people of the federal government just from the
voluntary separation program. And the question is, were
all those jobs needed with regard to,
(01:47):
reducibility? What are they actually producing? What are
they doing?
And I think I think, ultimately, that's where
we have to start as as a conversation.
Yeah. But there are so many departments that
were built,
on the backs of the taxpayer,
and it was done simply to have good
employment
numbers for the Democrats,
(02:09):
unnecessary
waste, the bureaucracy.
Why do you think people are still
screaming about Elon Musk? Don't they understand
that what he's doing is good for them?
Yeah. I think they they need a new
boogeyman because for ten years, they've tried to
go after Donald Trump and failed miserably. And
(02:31):
they think, okay. If we can't touch Donald
Trump, maybe we can touch Elon Musk, and
he's he's become the new boogeyman,
that they can attack. And now by extension,
you're seeing Tesla owners' cars keyed, lit on
fire, or other crazy stuff in an attempt
to try to, you know, tank his wealth
or make him suffer or something of that
nature. I mean, I have to laugh. You
(02:52):
know, when conservatives and Republicans boycott, you just
see,
stock on the shelves.
When
Democrats and Liberals allegedly boycott, they burn things
to the ground, they ride in the street,
and they do things that cause a lot
of damage.
So I think,
again, most people are too busy
living their lives. They're working. They're raising their
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kids,
to pay attention to all the the nuances
with regard to,
the political stuff, and they just can get
the headlines. They can just get what someone
tells them or or some blip they hear
on the news instead of the full story.
And
I think, ultimately,
that's that's to a detriment. And, again,
Trump announced these tariffs
(03:35):
on April 2. It's April 4. It's been
two days. Yes. The market has gone down
in reaction to that, but it's only been
two days. It's the economies
aren't crashing. I think Marco Rubio had said
that. The markets
are reacting
again to the unknown knowns and the unknown
unknowns.
So, ultimately,
people need to pay attention
(03:57):
more and understand.
And, again, the trade deficits,
these have been ignored by both sides of
the aisle for decades,
and it's only now where Trump can actually
maximize leverage with the United States government
and have the team he wants in place
to execute this that we can get to
us. Because guess what? Think about this. Everyone's
(04:17):
concerned about, well, he's gonna mess this up.
He's gonna mess that up. We don't really
know that. And even more so, if he
didn't do this, you wanna keep the status
quo of $36,000,000,000,000
of debt with a year over year $2,000,000,000,000
deficits? You have to change something,
and that's what Trump is doing. He's reshuffling
(04:39):
the economic deck. He's having Elon Musk and
Doge find at least 1 to $2,000,000,000,000
in cuts of spending, and then he wants
to grow the economy 1 to $2,000,000,000,000
in in from an economic standpoint. We can't
continue a $7,000,000,000,000
spending budget
with a $5,000,000,000,000
revenue, creating a $2,000,000,000,000
(05:01):
a year
deficit that then adds to our $36,000,000,000,000
of debt that becomes 38,000,000,000,000, then all the
interest payments, then it becomes 40,000,000,000,000, and so
on and so on. Remember, at the turn
of the century,
the national debt
was roughly $6,000,000,000,000.
20 5 years later, that $6,000,000,000,000
has turned into $36,000,000,000,000.
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Wow. It's not sustainable. We have to change
something. We have to cut spending, and we
have to grow the economy, and we have
to be efficient with where those dollars are
going. Again, the labor, the producibility,
what are people producing?
And if
Elon Musk can go and buy Twitter, turn
it into x, lay off 80%
(05:43):
of the labor force,
and still
operate and now make a profit a couple
years later,
what's to say that the same thing isn't
can be contrived with US government and other
entities?
And this again, this is where you have
to right size
what is artificial demand, which has been created
by government and Democrats
(06:04):
with all this nonsense that we've now seen
on a daily basis from the Doge team
that Trump is trying to fix from an
economic standpoint.
It's taxes, it's regulations,
it's tariffs, it's barriers to entry with other
countries, it's currency manipulation,
it's labor, it's con it's all these things
that he's addressing, and it's only been three
(06:24):
months.
Give him give him the chance for
six months to try and fix this. Give
him the chance because
otherwise,
we're gonna go bankrupt anyway, and we'll go
like the Soviet Union. We'll collapse.
Oh, boy. Well, the left, I think, would
be thrilled.
In fact, that's the way it looks.
Left wing Democrats think that,
(06:46):
putting down Doge, putting down Donald Trump,
allowing our country really to collapse
would be a good thing for them.
And as you said, we would be like
Russia.
Of course. And you're I don't even wanna
think about those what if scenarios because you'll
have a bunch of states that would unite.
Let's say, New England and and the Northeast
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would become something. And, you know, California well,
California is a whole another problem. No one
no one's gonna wanna team with California because
they have so much debt and everything else
in between. But you you're gonna sell these
breakdowns that we we don't wanna deal with
because we have to be we have to
have our economic house in order. What happens
from the personal standpoint? We all have
our budgets. We all have our incomes.
(07:29):
We all have our bills. We have some
debt that we have to service and manage.
What happens if all of that revenue collapses
and you can't sustain? You go you go
bankruptcy and you have to sell off assets
and fire
sales. Same thing can be said with with
a country. Hopefully, it doesn't. And what happens
if we don't do that? We print money
and then we have inflation, then we have
all these massive problems
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that we shouldn't even have to be exposed
to. We have to get our stuff in
order. We have to stop having the debt
accumulate. We have to stop spending
money that hasn't even been created for decades
to come, meaning passing on that debt to
our kids and grandkids and so on. You
have to get this stuff in order, and
Trump finally has a position
(08:10):
of influence
and a team that can assist him in
doing that where we can finally
do what's necessary. And, again, he took a
maximalist position
with regard to other countries. And every one
of these countries are calling the White House
saying, okay. I'll take our tariffs off this
if if you take it off ours because
they cannot withstand it for a period of
(08:31):
time. And that's the whole point. If Trump
can even the playing field, win. If they
don't even the playing field and then in
the short term, we get more revenue as
a result of tariffs that go into the
treasury, win. Then it maximizes
other opportunities for leverage.
Well, the opportunities
for leverage,
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it seems to be
that people don't understand that.
They absolutely
don't
don't get it.
And
we see with the protests on the street
against
Doge, against Elon Musk,
against Donald Trump.
We take note of who these people are.
And
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most of the time, it has to do
with students
who have been brainwashed
throughout their educational career,
and they're out on the streets. Do you
think they're going to have an effect because
they're always there? Do you think they're going
to have an effect in seeing the the
middle aged and old aged,
liberal progressives on the street as well with
(09:32):
their signage. Are they going to have an
effect,
do you think, on what Donald Trump is
going to do or as other countries watch
them, would they do to respond?
Look. Everything's a political battle, and results matter.
And we've seen the results with Donald Trump
the first time he was in office. And
you're always gonna have protesters. You're always gonna
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have the Democrats, again, who are leaderless right
now. They have no rudder. They have no
issues.
They have no one to get behind. You
just had Cory Booker, our idiot senator here,
do a speech for twenty five hours on
the floor. It wasn't a filibuster. He wasn't
doing anything to protect or stop a particular
piece of legislation. He was just complaining that
Donald Trump is bad.
Nobody
(10:15):
cares. Mhmm. Great. He didn't pee for twenty
five hours that we know of. Who knows?
Maybe he was wearing a diaper. But he
didn't pee for twenty five hours, and he
probably impacted his health as a result of
that. He's accomplished nothing. And he said twenty
five hours worth of nothing. He can speak
for twenty five hours and say nothing. So
my point is in all of this is
there's gonna be protesters. There's gonna be complaints.
There's gonna be all kinds of things to
(10:36):
try to stop what Donald Trump is doing.
Impact people to try to say, you know
what? Donald
Trump isn't doing what he said. Think about
this. The Democrats who created this economic issue
with the cost of of goods and the
prices of things in the grocery store saying,
Donald Trump hasn't fixed this yet. The economy
is not fixed yet. It's been
(10:57):
two months, maybe three months, maybe three months
with regard to what he's doing. Give him
the chance to do this. And if that
six months turns into materialistic gains, then again,
my point is use six months as a
barometer because that's about the time it's gonna
take congress to pass this new tax cuts
bill, get the get the economy going, and
have repercussions with regard to the tariffs, good,
(11:18):
bad, or indifferent. And then he can continue
to grow on that in the next couple
years before the midterms. And, again, if Trump
is successful
with all of this, he's gonna have increases
in the midterms.
If he comes up short, you'll have historical
nuances where the out of party,
out of power party picks up seats in
the house. The senate, the map favor the
(11:39):
Republican. Senate's not going anywhere.
But the house is the problem, and he's
gotta improve on that. And he's gotta improve
the economy, and that's what he's trying to
do. So they're gonna do everything they can
to try to create a political win, a
political statement to convince Trump to apply political
pressure to Trump and his people to abandon
the course. We saw this happen with the
(11:59):
Democrats and Reagan when there was a recession
in '81, '80 '2 after he took office.
Right? He stayed the course. And what did
that materialize into? The ultimate of the eighties
and the economic powerhouse that carried on through
the nineties. And that's exactly what we need
to keep reminding people of because they don't
seem to get it.
Biden printed so much money
(12:22):
over the time of COVID keeping people unnecessarily
home
that he, in fact, invited inflation, which went
close to 10%.
Do you think we we will ever recover
from what Biden did in flooding the markets
with dollars that meant so little
(12:42):
at the end of the
day? Yeah. So that that's part of what
DOSA is doing, and this is why it's
a little complicated for those that are outside
of government contracting and what DOSA is doing
on a daily basis by doing these t
for c on these contracts. They're they're clawing
back money. Right? There's too many I think
Biden printed between 4 and $6,000,000,000,000
in four years, right, over the course. Obviously,
(13:03):
you print more money, it it chases fewer
goods. Inflation happens. That's why we had in
June of twenty twenty two, inflation at 9.6
or 9.9, whatever it was, almost 10%.
So to fix that, you have to shrink
the money supply, which is what DOGE is
doing by t for seeing a lot of
these contracts
that were part of COVID funds and clawing
back that money, not spending that money, as
(13:23):
well as Trump trying to grow the economy.
So it's not gonna happen overnight. It's likely
not gonna happen in six months, but it
will happen by the end of this year
assuming all these variables
go into place. Like I said, it's saying
the tax cuts that expire at the end
of this year, adding additional opportunities for people
to enhance disposable income and spending
so that the dollar can change hands faster,
(13:45):
the velocity of the dollar. And even further,
with the tariffs even in the playing field
so that the cost of goods,
the price of things that we see goes
down
in the long term. Again, short term pain
for long term gain is is unfortunately where
we're going. And we've been in pain for
four years under the Biden administration economically, and
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we just gotta hold on a little bit
longer for Trump to fix Biden and the
Democrats' mess.
I don't know. He he really, the four
years Biden well, not Biden, but Obama and
whoever else was actually doing the,
the presidential deeds.
Those are the ones that I think we
still have to be concerned about. When we
(14:26):
when we think of what happened during Biden's
time that left us in the lurch that
now Donald Trump jumped into it and is
trying to fix it.
Do we still have to worry about things
that Biden and his cohort are doing behind
the scenes
to try to destroy whatever Doge does? I
mean, we know that the politicians are seriously
(14:47):
involved
in corruption and taking taxpayer dollars through NGOs.
Is there anything else we need to be
more concerned about?
Look. All these things are gonna go through
the judicial process, and ultimately, Supreme Court will
reinforce Donald Trump's power
of the executive branch and the delegation that
he's giving Elon Musk, etcetera. Because Elon Musk,
(15:08):
again, he wasn't in appointment. He's a special,
employee, which I think it's like a hundred
and twenty days or something like that,
that he can help him with. And again,
if they put the framework in place for
the rest of the Doge team to execute
once Elon is done. Because remember, this guy
versus guy on the face of the earth
and in the history of the world is
sleeping
(15:29):
on the floor in the EOB in the
Eisenhower,
Executive Office Building. I mean,
we're so lucky to have this guy and
his brain to do this. So all this
stuff,
Elon Musk is leading by example, showing this
is how we do it. And each of
the department heads, the secretaries,
secretary of the treasury, secretary of state, secretary
(15:49):
of defense, etcetera, are learning in this three
to four month period. Okay. This is what
Musk did. Okay. Now let's go do this
and take it further as we continue. Because
the amount of fraud, waste, and abuse that
we've seen,
like you said, with NGOs, nonprofits, and just
there's a hundred dollars in an account,
a month before they get a grant for
$2,000,000,000, and then they spend that $2,000,000,000.
(16:10):
It's absurd. This is why things cost money.
It's artificial demand that's not real, and we
have to correct it. And that's what Trump
is doing. Do you think we have to
worry about the judiciary,
and these judges,
when it comes to actually prosecuting the people
that we we know because of Doge have
been committing vile acts, taking our taxpayer dollars
(16:31):
for nothing and putting it in their own
pocket. Do you think we're going to see
any any kind of light in that regard?
Well, you know, the the the sad part
is most people try to go with the
assumption
that judges are nonpartisan
or,
whatever you wanna call it. But their very
presence in their position
was through politics and partisan
(16:53):
because they had to get appointed or, in
other cases, elected.
So everything about a judge
that, unfortunately, the lexicon, which is accurate, it's
just unfortunate, that a Bush appointed judge or
a Obama appointed judge, a Trump appointed judge,
a Biden appointed judge, you have to assume
that their political philosophy
is going to drive and make a pretzel
(17:15):
out of the law and the constitution to
get the outcome that they want. And that's,
again, why it's so imperative
that you get people that share the president's
view on the bench while he's got the
opportunity to do so.
Because what we're seeing are blatantly political decisions,
which again, the judge wasn't the judiciary wasn't
supposed to be that way, but guess what?
(17:36):
This is what it is. And, unfortunately, we're
gonna see this. Ultimately, the Supreme Court, again,
you've heard me say this a million times,
it's not a six to three conservative majority.
It's a three three three. There are three
staunch conservatives. There are clearly three liberals, and
there are three moderates
that kinda fluctuate because they still believe that
there's an integrity of the court that could
(17:56):
be nonpartisan. It's just not it's just not
real.
What
would you say about chief justice John Roberts?
This is an island.
I can't wait for him to retire.
Yeah. Because we've been looking into his his,
friendships
and discovering that this is a man perhaps
that doesn't belong on the Supreme Court of
(18:17):
the United States.
Brian, are you gonna be able to stay
with us, or do you have to leave?
Because
I do have to go, unfortunately. So I
appreciate you having me. Oh, I love having
you, my friend. You are brilliant, and I
hope people have a little clearer view of
what Donald Trump is doing. The the the
short term,
pain
will end up being our learn long term
(18:38):
gain, and, certainly, I think you put it
out there very clearly.
Brian, my love to everybody. See you soon,
and, please take care no matter where you
go.
You got my prayers with you.
I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on.
Oh, take care.
God bless.
Anyway,
Yeah. That's,
that's our friend. That's Brian Fitzherbert. And, boy,
(19:00):
he is brilliant.
We can look at,
we can look at our own Elon Musk
and Doge. Brilliant.
Brian Fitzpatrick could go into any one of
the departments in our government, federal government, and
would make an impact, a positive impact for
us. Anyway, this is Anne Baker on talking
(19:20):
with Anne on News Talk 1,492.3
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