April 5, 2025 • 17 mins
APRIL 5 2025. Seth Grossman is the special guest every Sat morning 9:15am. WPG Radio, ‘Talk With A Purpose’ radio show with John DeMasi.
Topics discussed in this episode:
3rd term for Trump? No. FDR had 4 terms.
Primary election in JUNE. April 16 is last day to change registration.
Texas. 17 yr old student killed at track meet. Who pulled out the knife?
Culture of rage. Hatred towards whites and Asians. Deadly problem. Most media ignored it.
Trump Tariffs. Sales tax on imports.
NJ sales tax. 6.25.% Corrupt system.
Stock market vs Tariffs.
Government expansion.
Cheap imports. Illegal immigrants contribute to lower wages.
Trump actions: Gas and oil prices going down.
Electric rates. Blame Dems and spineless Republicans.
Power plants. Nuclear. Oyster Creek. Buying expensive green energy from out of state
Supported by Kaleem Shabazz.
ACUA turbines are useless.
Better to rebuild Beesley Point power plant.
BPU.
Dems are responsible for higher energy costs.
Different prices for lower income? Don Guardian and Claire Swift voted YES to this.
How will Polisitina and Testa vote?
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It is Talk with a Purpose every Saturday,
nine till noon, WPG Talk Radio ninety five
point five. I'm John DeMasi. Six zero nine
four zero seven fourteen fifty. We'll bring Seth
in a little early because, I know he's
gonna chime in on this
and, certainly has the ammunition
to chime in on it. Seth, good morning.
Welcome to Talk With A Purpose.
(00:20):
Good morning. And,
all this stuff that we talk about gets
posted on libertyandprosperity.com.
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(00:42):
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I'd be happy to,
sign you up,
you know, for you.
As far as whether Trump can run,
(01:03):
a third time, no. There's a the twenty
second amendment to the constitution,
you're right,
was,
adopted in 1951
after
Franklin Roosevelt was elected to four terms, and
people had enough of that and didn't wanna
see that again.
And, that's the end of the story.
So,
you
know, I I don't see much point talking
(01:24):
about it because the constitution
is what it is.
Meanwhile, just a
a point on the race for, governor and
other people running,
in the election
on June. As you know, there's a primary
election in June
where you have about four or five Democratic,
candidates,
wanted Democratic nomination for governor.
(01:45):
And you have four Republicans want the nomination
for governor.
And if you wanna vote in the Republican
primary,
you have to be either an unaffiliated
independent voter or a registered Republican.
And the same thing if you wanna vote
in a Democrat,
primary. If you
wanna vote there, you either never voted in
(02:07):
a primary before or,
you wrote voted Democrat before. But if as
a favor or for any reason,
you voted in the Democratic Party primary,
anytime could have been ten, fifteen years ago.
And you wanna vote in Republican primary this
year,
April 16 is the last day you have
to fill out a form to change your
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registration.
So if you
are switching parties or you don't know what
your party is,
please take care of that by April 16
because once that deadline passes, it's too late.
Yeah. You're stuck with the party that you're
in.
Okay.
Me meanwhile, the the most important story,
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to me is a story that half the
country has no idea happened.
And that's that tragic story in Texas.
You had a 17 year old
track student,
came to a track meet at a high
school in Texas,
And another 17 year old,
track athlete
showed up.
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And, apparently,
one of the 17 year olds was sitting
in a wrong seat. They had assigned seats
for some reason.
And one teenager said to the other one,
no. You're in the wrong seat. You've gotta
move.
And then the other one said, no. I'm
not gonna move. And then there was word
there was a scuffle.
And one of the 17 year olds pulled
out a knife,
stuck it in the heart of the other
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17 year old, and killed him instantly.
They were of two different races.
And without even telling you anything,
which race do you think pulled out the
knife and killed somebody,
and who which race was the person who
died?
Let's see. Can I guess?
Yes. You can guess.
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The black person pulled out the knife and
the white person was killed.
Yes.
And, it's a very common thing,
among young black men. You have this culture
of rage,
of uncontrolled emotions,
of hatred
towards white people and also Asians.
And this has been
(04:12):
really
put into the culture
through movies like Django Unchained,
through Black History Month, through the 1619 project,
through Kwanzaa, through the,
you know, the the George Floyd, all that
stuff,
where where blacks could, you know, be as
violent as they want, as uncivilized as they
(04:33):
want. But if there's any trouble, it's the
white man's fault or white person's fault. And
and so there's no consequences, and this is
a deadly, deadly problem.
And it must be addressed, but it's not
being addressed.
And when I say half the country doesn't
know about it,
I thought this was such a important story.
And if you go on Twitter, Facebook, social
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media,
you see the videos, you see the details
of the story, and you also see a
whole lot of other stories
about young black men and women just going
crazy
at Disney World, at Walmart, at supermarkets, at
McDonald's,
at the airport.
Just uncontrolled,
you know, intolerable behavior, but it's being tolerated
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and it's not being dealt with. And because
the media doesn't cover it,
you don't know about it. I was watching
ABC News with David Noor last night.
They talked about the tragic murder of a
parish priest in Kansas,
tragic death of a 24 year old
rodeo bull rider in Texas,
but not one word about this 17 year
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old being murdered at a at a high
school track meet because somebody,
brings a knife to a to a track
meet and thinks it's normal.
So anyway, I think that's, that's the way
that we have to deal with.
And what else is going on?
Well,
you know, as far as with the Trump
tariffs,
if you watch the news, it's like the
only thing going on in the world is,
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Trump is talking about tariffs, and he's enacting
tariffs, and the stock market's going down. So
I just wanna bring up a couple of
other things that are going on.
We talk about at Liberty and Prosperity how
America changed in 1965,
where the government expanded and it became expensive.
Taxes became expensive.
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The government made health care expensive.
Made housing expensive. You know, when you and
I were growing
up, the guideline was to spend 25 percent
of your income on housing, whether it's an
apartment or house.
We used to have one parent working. We
used to have, college kids used to pay
for a year of college with a summer
working on a boardwalk.
So the government through health care, housing, college,
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education, property taxes,
sort of doubled the take for the government.
And what does that do? It means there's
no money for anything else.
So if you want clothing,
if you want groceries, if you want anything
else, we have to rely on cheap imports
from slave labor in China.
We have to rely on illegal
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immigrants, you know, working,
for for dirt wages. And, of course, we
end up paying it in the form of
welfare payments and free medical care and all
that stuff. And also by,
by debt. This this trillion dollars of debt
every year that never gets paid back.
So it's it's in time, you know, it's
unsustainable.
It has to come to an end. And
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I have a feeling that this, downturn in
the market
has a whole lot more to do with
the fact that we can't rely on the
cheap imports, can't rely on the cheap illegal
labor, and we can't rely on borrowing money
that will never pay back forever.
So I have a feeling that the market's
waking up to that and the tariffs just
triggered it, but it won't be talking about
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that.
But the the thing about the tariffs,
there's so many people who don't even know
what a tariff is. So I'd like to
just give a a a quick rundown.
A tariff is a sales tax
on anything that comes in from outside of
the country.
So it's really no different from a New
Jersey sales tax,
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except here's the big difference.
In New Jersey, when you buy anything in
New Jersey,
you pay a 6.625%
sales tax on it.
Now where do we come up with that
number?
Well, until 02/2006, it was 6%.
And then governor McGreevey made it, 7% in
02/2006.
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And then, Chris Christie and the Democrats made
it from 7% to 6.625%
when they, raised the tax on gasoline.
But the key thing about a sales tax
is it can only be done by the
governor and the legislature. You have to make
a law.
They only change it every now and then.
And everything is taxed at the same rate.
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You buy a car at 6.25%.
You buy a cup of coffee at Wawa,
it's 6.25%.
Now you buy a refrigerator, it's 6.25%.
So,
you can't mess with things too much. Everybody
knows what the sales tax is.
Well, tariffs are a sales tax,
that would be like where the governor
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can
make his own sales tax
at whatever rate he wants
for whatever he wants it to be. And
this didn't start out with with Trump. This
has been going on for fifty years.
So it's like,
you buy a cup of coffee,
from a Wawa on Somers Point, it's a
6% tax. But if you buy a cup
of coffee in Cape May, it's 20%
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because somebody likes Somers Point more than Cape
May.
We pay a 30% sales tax if you
buy refrigerator or 10% sales tax if you
buy a microwave.
So you're just making the stuff up for
whoever,
has the best politics or whoever
pays off the most money. It's such a
completely
corrupt and unfair system that we've had for
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years.
And it's, again, it's unsustainable.
And it appears that Trump is actually addressing
that.
So when you're you have these tariffs, you
wanna have standard set of rules. So it
looks like Trump is setting a 10% basic,
tariff, you know, sort of like the 5%
sales tax.
And he's adjusting it that if you're a
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country that hates us and is trying to
destroy us like China,
we don't wanna have any trade with you.
So we're gonna charge you 60%
on a tariff.
And if you are discriminating against our products,
like, normally, we charge a 10% tax to
everybody.
But if you're charging a 60%,
tariff or sales tax against us, we'll charge
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a 60%
sales tax to you. So it sounds like
a a fair system to me.
And, again, I don't see the connection between
the tariffs and the stock market going down.
I think it's
related to the fact that America is, like,
hooked on the drug
of cheap immigrant labor and,
and cheap
products from slave labor in China. And as
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we wean ourselves off of that,
there's gonna be some dislocation.
But we'll see how that plays out. Do
you think that the tariffs
will cause a recession?
I it's I don't think so because, remember,
the tariffs are going up.
But because of Trump's energy policy, gas and
oil prices are going down,
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which means that electric prices are going down
every place in the world except,
New Jersey, but that's another story.
But there there's so many ways that by
making government,
more efficient,
by lowering,
the cost of of other taxes,
that it's very possible that it could be
a wash and we could be okay.
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But, you know, this is the type of
stuff we talk about every Saturday morning from
09:30 to 10:30 at our breakfast discussions.
There's one final point I'd like to bring
up.
And and that is,
and I can't say this enough,
The reason that electric rates are going up
in New Jersey
is because governor Murphy and the Democrats
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and spineless Republicans who went along with this,
have blown up our two most productive power
plants in New Jersey.
The nuclear plant at Oyster Creek in Lacey
Township
and what was supposed to be a gas
powered plant in Marmora by Milepost 28 of
the Parkway.
When because of we lost those two power
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plants
and because we never expanded
the Salem plant like we were supposed to,
we're buying expensive green energy out of state
that cost way more than what it would
cost us to make it there.
And the Democrats want it this way. And
Kaleem Shabazz, the Democratic councilman from Atlantic City,
actually wrote an article. He said, we wanna
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have a % green energy within ten years,
two thousand and thirty five.
So so here's what we have to do.
So if the Democrats want green energy,
the Republicans need to make them take ownership
for what they're doing and say, okay. Every
time you see a solar panel, your electric
rate is higher because we're paying for those
solar panels. Because those solar panels are not
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producing any energy we need. Those wind turbines
you see at Atlantic City, they're useless.
You know, we're just paying money down the
drain for them. And all the money we
spent for those underground cables in Ocean City
and Atlantic City,
you're paying for that.
So so we have to have Republicans saying,
we gotta build nuclear reactors. We gotta rebuild
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the Beasley's Point plant. And and we have
to do that and and and honestly tell
the people
until,
you know, we we build affordable,
electric power, your electric rates are gonna go
through the roof. And don't blame the BPU,
and don't blame the government, and don't blame
Atlantic Electric. It's the Democrats who are doing
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this.
But here's the problem.
The Democrats have figured that out. So what
are the Democrats doing?
They are putting together a plan that say,
we think that electric bills,
should should be like the graduated income tax.
The more money you make, the higher rate
you should pay so that low income voters,
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namely Democrat voters, don't have to pay for
the green energy.
And the Republicans should say that's ridiculous. You
gotta bring down the cost for everybody.
But something happened,
last Thursday that's very disappointing.
There was a bill in the assembly
where the Democrats said,
there's $25,000,000
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of deposits
that the electric company charged
where the customers never got their deposit back.
So we have a bill
to seize that $25,000,000
and create a slush fund
that would go to these,
community organizers,
you know, these event the people same people
who get out to vote for the Democrats'
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election time, you know, the, Obama community organizers.
We're gonna give them the money so they
could give Democrat voters,
all these all this money so their electric
bills don't go up. And only Republicans will
have to pay more money.
So you you so I can understand why
the Democrats voted for this.
Guess how the Republicans voted on that measure
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last Thursday.
Don Guardian voted yes. Claire Swift voted yes.
Antoine McClellan of,
Cape May County, Ocean City, and and and
Cumberland voted yes.
Eric Simonson didn't vote at all.
The Republicans in Ocean County,
Paul Knitra and,
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Greg Myra, they voted no. So how are
we ever gonna beat Democrats
if we
don't point out that the Democrats are causing
a high electric bills
and that people should be punished with high
electric bills as long as they support that
stupid green energy stuff.
But as long as Republicans go along
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and tax everybody else extra,
to bail out the Democrats, the voters are
never gonna get the message, and they'll keep
voting for more of this stuff and just
ruin the economy of the state.
So
Don Guardian and Claire Swift voted for this?
Yes. They did.
And and and what they did, it's a
temporary measure. So what's gonna happen with the
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$25,000,000
fund? What are the what's gonna happen when
that fund runs out?
Once people get dependent
on free money from the government, there's gonna
be a crisis. They say, oh, the $25,000,000
ran out. Let's raise the societal benefits
another $20 a month on an older suburban
Republican household
so we could keep this thing going indefinitely.
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So they set a horrible, horrible precedent.
So that was the assembly.
So now Vince Paulistina
and Michael Tester will have to vote on
this in the senate. And I just hope
that they will wake up and and not
in in, you know, not do this stuff
again.
But I but I have my doubts because
the the final thing with Vince Paulistina,
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when you hear Vince Paulistina on Harry Hurley,
he always has the same message.
He said,
he doesn't believe that that liberty brings prosperity.
He thinks politics brings prosperity.
So his position ever since he's been in
there is I will, you know, backstab and
double cross every other Republican in the state
to give Murphy everything he wants.
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So Murphy will give me money for my
special projects in Atlanta County.
And that's a losing way of doing things,
and we have to have an open discussion
about that. So anyway, those are the topics
for libertyandprosperity.com.
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Thanks a lot and have a great week.
You too, Seth. Thank you. Seth Grossman, Liberty
and Prosperity, the website libertyandprosperity.com.
It is Talk with a Purpose every Saturday,
nine till noon, WPG Talk Radio ninety five
point five. I'm John DeMasi.
It is Talk with a Purpose every Saturday,
nine till noon, WPG Talk Radio ninety five
point five. I'm John DeMasi. Six zero nine
four zero seven fourteen fifty. We'll bring Seth
in a little early because, I know he's
gonna chime in on this
and, certainly has the ammunition
to chime in on it. Seth, good morning.
Welcome to Talk With A Purpose.
(00:20):
Good morning. And,
all this stuff that we talk about gets
posted on libertyandprosperity.com.
I invite everybody to look at the post
we have there. If you like it, I
invite everybody to share them with Facebook or
Twitter or copying pasting the the links and
sending them on emails to your friends.
You could also subscribe to a free weekly,
(00:42):
email that we send out,
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the, the top stories. And if you have
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send me an email at info@libertyandprosper.com.
I'd be happy to,
sign you up,
you know, for you.
As far as whether Trump can run,
(01:03):
a third time, no. There's a the twenty
second amendment to the constitution,
you're right,
was,
adopted in 1951
after
Franklin Roosevelt was elected to four terms, and
people had enough of that and didn't wanna
see that again.
And, that's the end of the story.
So,
you
know, I I don't see much point talking
(01:24):
about it because the constitution
is what it is.
Meanwhile, just a
a point on the race for, governor and
other people running,
in the election
on June. As you know, there's a primary
election in June
where you have about four or five Democratic,
candidates,
wanted Democratic nomination for governor.
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And you have four Republicans want the nomination
for governor.
And if you wanna vote in the Republican
primary,
you have to be either an unaffiliated
independent voter or a registered Republican.
And the same thing if you wanna vote
in a Democrat,
primary. If you
wanna vote there, you either never voted in
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a primary before or,
you wrote voted Democrat before. But if as
a favor or for any reason,
you voted in the Democratic Party primary,
anytime could have been ten, fifteen years ago.
And you wanna vote in Republican primary this
year,
April 16 is the last day you have
to fill out a form to change your
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registration.
So if you
are switching parties or you don't know what
your party is,
please take care of that by April 16
because once that deadline passes, it's too late.
Yeah. You're stuck with the party that you're
in.
Okay.
Me meanwhile, the the most important story,
(02:48):
to me is a story that half the
country has no idea happened.
And that's that tragic story in Texas.
You had a 17 year old
track student,
came to a track meet at a high
school in Texas,
And another 17 year old,
track athlete
showed up.
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And, apparently,
one of the 17 year olds was sitting
in a wrong seat. They had assigned seats
for some reason.
And one teenager said to the other one,
no. You're in the wrong seat. You've gotta
move.
And then the other one said, no. I'm
not gonna move. And then there was word
there was a scuffle.
And one of the 17 year olds pulled
out a knife,
stuck it in the heart of the other
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17 year old, and killed him instantly.
They were of two different races.
And without even telling you anything,
which race do you think pulled out the
knife and killed somebody,
and who which race was the person who
died?
Let's see. Can I guess?
Yes. You can guess.
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The black person pulled out the knife and
the white person was killed.
Yes.
And, it's a very common thing,
among young black men. You have this culture
of rage,
of uncontrolled emotions,
of hatred
towards white people and also Asians.
And this has been
(04:12):
really
put into the culture
through movies like Django Unchained,
through Black History Month, through the 1619 project,
through Kwanzaa, through the,
you know, the the George Floyd, all that
stuff,
where where blacks could, you know, be as
violent as they want, as uncivilized as they
(04:33):
want. But if there's any trouble, it's the
white man's fault or white person's fault. And
and so there's no consequences, and this is
a deadly, deadly problem.
And it must be addressed, but it's not
being addressed.
And when I say half the country doesn't
know about it,
I thought this was such a important story.
And if you go on Twitter, Facebook, social
(04:54):
media,
you see the videos, you see the details
of the story, and you also see a
whole lot of other stories
about young black men and women just going
crazy
at Disney World, at Walmart, at supermarkets, at
McDonald's,
at the airport.
Just uncontrolled,
you know, intolerable behavior, but it's being tolerated
(05:16):
and it's not being dealt with. And because
the media doesn't cover it,
you don't know about it. I was watching
ABC News with David Noor last night.
They talked about the tragic murder of a
parish priest in Kansas,
tragic death of a 24 year old
rodeo bull rider in Texas,
but not one word about this 17 year
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old being murdered at a at a high
school track meet because somebody,
brings a knife to a to a track
meet and thinks it's normal.
So anyway, I think that's, that's the way
that we have to deal with.
And what else is going on?
Well,
you know, as far as with the Trump
tariffs,
if you watch the news, it's like the
only thing going on in the world is,
(05:58):
Trump is talking about tariffs, and he's enacting
tariffs, and the stock market's going down. So
I just wanna bring up a couple of
other things that are going on.
We talk about at Liberty and Prosperity how
America changed in 1965,
where the government expanded and it became expensive.
Taxes became expensive.
(06:19):
The government made health care expensive.
Made housing expensive. You know, when you and
I were growing
up, the guideline was to spend 25 percent
of your income on housing, whether it's an
apartment or house.
We used to have one parent working. We
used to have, college kids used to pay
for a year of college with a summer
working on a boardwalk.
So the government through health care, housing, college,
(06:43):
education, property taxes,
sort of doubled the take for the government.
And what does that do? It means there's
no money for anything else.
So if you want clothing,
if you want groceries, if you want anything
else, we have to rely on cheap imports
from slave labor in China.
We have to rely on illegal
(07:03):
immigrants, you know, working,
for for dirt wages. And, of course, we
end up paying it in the form of
welfare payments and free medical care and all
that stuff. And also by,
by debt. This this trillion dollars of debt
every year that never gets paid back.
So it's it's in time, you know, it's
unsustainable.
It has to come to an end. And
(07:25):
I have a feeling that this, downturn in
the market
has a whole lot more to do with
the fact that we can't rely on the
cheap imports, can't rely on the cheap illegal
labor, and we can't rely on borrowing money
that will never pay back forever.
So I have a feeling that the market's
waking up to that and the tariffs just
triggered it, but it won't be talking about
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that.
But the the thing about the tariffs,
there's so many people who don't even know
what a tariff is. So I'd like to
just give a a a quick rundown.
A tariff is a sales tax
on anything that comes in from outside of
the country.
So it's really no different from a New
Jersey sales tax,
(08:08):
except here's the big difference.
In New Jersey, when you buy anything in
New Jersey,
you pay a 6.625%
sales tax on it.
Now where do we come up with that
number?
Well, until 02/2006, it was 6%.
And then governor McGreevey made it, 7% in
02/2006.
(08:28):
And then, Chris Christie and the Democrats made
it from 7% to 6.625%
when they, raised the tax on gasoline.
But the key thing about a sales tax
is it can only be done by the
governor and the legislature. You have to make
a law.
They only change it every now and then.
And everything is taxed at the same rate.
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You buy a car at 6.25%.
You buy a cup of coffee at Wawa,
it's 6.25%.
Now you buy a refrigerator, it's 6.25%.
So,
you can't mess with things too much. Everybody
knows what the sales tax is.
Well, tariffs are a sales tax,
that would be like where the governor
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can
make his own sales tax
at whatever rate he wants
for whatever he wants it to be. And
this didn't start out with with Trump. This
has been going on for fifty years.
So it's like,
you buy a cup of coffee,
from a Wawa on Somers Point, it's a
6% tax. But if you buy a cup
of coffee in Cape May, it's 20%
(09:32):
because somebody likes Somers Point more than Cape
May.
We pay a 30% sales tax if you
buy refrigerator or 10% sales tax if you
buy a microwave.
So you're just making the stuff up for
whoever,
has the best politics or whoever
pays off the most money. It's such a
completely
corrupt and unfair system that we've had for
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years.
And it's, again, it's unsustainable.
And it appears that Trump is actually addressing
that.
So when you're you have these tariffs, you
wanna have standard set of rules. So it
looks like Trump is setting a 10% basic,
tariff, you know, sort of like the 5%
sales tax.
And he's adjusting it that if you're a
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country that hates us and is trying to
destroy us like China,
we don't wanna have any trade with you.
So we're gonna charge you 60%
on a tariff.
And if you are discriminating against our products,
like, normally, we charge a 10% tax to
everybody.
But if you're charging a 60%,
tariff or sales tax against us, we'll charge
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a 60%
sales tax to you. So it sounds like
a a fair system to me.
And, again, I don't see the connection between
the tariffs and the stock market going down.
I think it's
related to the fact that America is, like,
hooked on the drug
of cheap immigrant labor and,
and cheap
products from slave labor in China. And as
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we wean ourselves off of that,
there's gonna be some dislocation.
But we'll see how that plays out. Do
you think that the tariffs
will cause a recession?
I it's I don't think so because, remember,
the tariffs are going up.
But because of Trump's energy policy, gas and
oil prices are going down,
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which means that electric prices are going down
every place in the world except,
New Jersey, but that's another story.
But there there's so many ways that by
making government,
more efficient,
by lowering,
the cost of of other taxes,
that it's very possible that it could be
a wash and we could be okay.
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But, you know, this is the type of
stuff we talk about every Saturday morning from
09:30 to 10:30 at our breakfast discussions.
There's one final point I'd like to bring
up.
And and that is,
and I can't say this enough,
The reason that electric rates are going up
in New Jersey
is because governor Murphy and the Democrats
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and spineless Republicans who went along with this,
have blown up our two most productive power
plants in New Jersey.
The nuclear plant at Oyster Creek in Lacey
Township
and what was supposed to be a gas
powered plant in Marmora by Milepost 28 of
the Parkway.
When because of we lost those two power
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plants
and because we never expanded
the Salem plant like we were supposed to,
we're buying expensive green energy out of state
that cost way more than what it would
cost us to make it there.
And the Democrats want it this way. And
Kaleem Shabazz, the Democratic councilman from Atlantic City,
actually wrote an article. He said, we wanna
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have a % green energy within ten years,
two thousand and thirty five.
So so here's what we have to do.
So if the Democrats want green energy,
the Republicans need to make them take ownership
for what they're doing and say, okay. Every
time you see a solar panel, your electric
rate is higher because we're paying for those
solar panels. Because those solar panels are not
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producing any energy we need. Those wind turbines
you see at Atlantic City, they're useless.
You know, we're just paying money down the
drain for them. And all the money we
spent for those underground cables in Ocean City
and Atlantic City,
you're paying for that.
So so we have to have Republicans saying,
we gotta build nuclear reactors. We gotta rebuild
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the Beasley's Point plant. And and we have
to do that and and and honestly tell
the people
until,
you know, we we build affordable,
electric power, your electric rates are gonna go
through the roof. And don't blame the BPU,
and don't blame the government, and don't blame
Atlantic Electric. It's the Democrats who are doing
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this.
But here's the problem.
The Democrats have figured that out. So what
are the Democrats doing?
They are putting together a plan that say,
we think that electric bills,
should should be like the graduated income tax.
The more money you make, the higher rate
you should pay so that low income voters,
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namely Democrat voters, don't have to pay for
the green energy.
And the Republicans should say that's ridiculous. You
gotta bring down the cost for everybody.
But something happened,
last Thursday that's very disappointing.
There was a bill in the assembly
where the Democrats said,
there's $25,000,000
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of deposits
that the electric company charged
where the customers never got their deposit back.
So we have a bill
to seize that $25,000,000
and create a slush fund
that would go to these,
community organizers,
you know, these event the people same people
who get out to vote for the Democrats'
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election time, you know, the, Obama community organizers.
We're gonna give them the money so they
could give Democrat voters,
all these all this money so their electric
bills don't go up. And only Republicans will
have to pay more money.
So you you so I can understand why
the Democrats voted for this.
Guess how the Republicans voted on that measure
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last Thursday.
Don Guardian voted yes. Claire Swift voted yes.
Antoine McClellan of,
Cape May County, Ocean City, and and and
Cumberland voted yes.
Eric Simonson didn't vote at all.
The Republicans in Ocean County,
Paul Knitra and,
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Greg Myra, they voted no. So how are
we ever gonna beat Democrats
if we
don't point out that the Democrats are causing
a high electric bills
and that people should be punished with high
electric bills as long as they support that
stupid green energy stuff.
But as long as Republicans go along
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and tax everybody else extra,
to bail out the Democrats, the voters are
never gonna get the message, and they'll keep
voting for more of this stuff and just
ruin the economy of the state.
So
Don Guardian and Claire Swift voted for this?
Yes. They did.
And and and what they did, it's a
temporary measure. So what's gonna happen with the
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$25,000,000
fund? What are the what's gonna happen when
that fund runs out?
Once people get dependent
on free money from the government, there's gonna
be a crisis. They say, oh, the $25,000,000
ran out. Let's raise the societal benefits
another $20 a month on an older suburban
Republican household
so we could keep this thing going indefinitely.
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So they set a horrible, horrible precedent.
So that was the assembly.
So now Vince Paulistina
and Michael Tester will have to vote on
this in the senate. And I just hope
that they will wake up and and not
in in, you know, not do this stuff
again.
But I but I have my doubts because
the the final thing with Vince Paulistina,
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when you hear Vince Paulistina on Harry Hurley,
he always has the same message.
He said,
he doesn't believe that that liberty brings prosperity.
He thinks politics brings prosperity.
So his position ever since he's been in
there is I will, you know, backstab and
double cross every other Republican in the state
to give Murphy everything he wants.
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So Murphy will give me money for my
special projects in Atlanta County.
And that's a losing way of doing things,
and we have to have an open discussion
about that. So anyway, those are the topics
for libertyandprosperity.com.
I'll post it on the website. If you
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Thanks a lot and have a great week.
You too, Seth. Thank you. Seth Grossman, Liberty
and Prosperity, the website libertyandprosperity.com.
It is Talk with a Purpose every Saturday,
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