6.20.25 Brian Fitzherbert WOND Radio

"Brian Fitzherbert, president of Liberty and Prosperity, joins Anne Baker on the radio for 'Fitzherbert Friday' and the conversation surrounds possible Israel/US actions regarding Iran's nuclear capability."

Episode Transcript

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Good morning, everyone. This is Anne Baker on
talking with Anne on news talk fourteen hundred
ninety two point three w o n d.
And we've got with us our favorite cohost,
Brian Fitzherbert, on Fitzherbert Friday.
Good morning, Brian. How are you? Good morning,
Anne. I'm doing well. How are you doing?
I'm okay. Is it hot outside? It's quite
it's quite nice out. It is definitely summer

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weather. So It's beach time, isn't it? Go
to the beach.
Listen to us on the beach.
Beach time. Anyway,
I just had Don Guardian here, and he
was he was,
I really I just passed him in the
lobby. Yeah.
It's crazy.
All of the good things that he is
trying to do for our area, the legislation
that is being pushed. But you know what?
If it just has,

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an effect on our area,
it's gonna be real tough to find legislators
that are willing to jump on board with
a bill,
unless they get something out of it.
Understandable.
But,
okay.
What's what's the issue
that that most concerns
you today with everything that's going on, either

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locally or,
in the world?
It's Iran. Yeah.
I knew you were gonna say that. Yes.
The bunker buster.
Tell me, what would you do if you
were president? Yeah. So this is
okay. So there's a lot to unpack, unfold,
and everything that's been going on. Trump has
said
since he entered presidential politics that Iran cannot

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have a nuclear weapon. Plain and simple. He's
never changed his mind. Decades.
Plain and simple. And you can cut I
think there's probably audio of him in a
supercut, probably fifteen, twenty minutes of him literally
saying this throughout the years.
And
when we get to the point of where
we are,
we've seen this story before where Iran is
close to maybe months away. And what does

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Israel do? They go and delay it by
destroying,
facilities, infrastructure.
They take out scientists, military leaders. This has
been going on probably for fifteen years.
And so there's there's
been that history where, okay, Israel has to
act. The fact
that Israel has the intel and the consistent
intel that seems to back up

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their claims. Now, again, there's probably pause from
the American,
voter, from the American anyone in the electorate
because of what happened with Saddam Hussein, weapons
of mass destruction, and the alleged CIA intel
that they were in fact there when it
was just Saddam Hussein pumping his chest to
make it look like he was tough in
the Middle East.
And I'm sure that congress as well as

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the president, obviously, since he was a massive
opponent of the Iraq war,
is is hesitant
or at least wants to be absolutely,
utterly sure,
what needs to happen if
America needs to entertain
entering any aspect of this.
Now when we're talking about everything that's going

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on, what Israel has been able to do
in seven days
is nothing short of a military campaign,
masterpiece
because they've taken out,
nuclear facilities,
research sites,
the scientists, the scientists
underlings, the military leaders, the military
deputies, and then the military deputy deputies that

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have then since been killed, and you're taking
out the knowledge. And the question in terms
of the mission is,
is the mission goal delay or destruction?
And I would have to venture that ultimately,
we all can agree that a
planet without Iran having nuclear weapons is a
safer planet.
As we've talked before, there's only nine countries

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on this planet that have nuclear capabilities.
Now Iran has said consistently
that they would threaten and kill and wipe
Israel off the map, that they would do
the same thing to The United States. So
all this has to be weighed with determining
what needs to be done. Now
when we're talking about bunker busters, this is
just,
shorthand for,

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GBUs that are dropped from b two Spirit,
stealth bombers. What are GBUs?
So more or less, these are fused
type military
it's complicated tech technical,
breakout. But by and large, they have multiple

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design effects. Meaning,
they they ultimately penetrate
the Two tiered. Yes. They're two tiered.
They they multi they basically
penetrate
the first target, hard target. Usually, Facilisoft targets
are people, that kind of thing.
And, basically, your guided bomb units, that's what
GBU is,
are GPS

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tied to
go after a particular location.
Now when you drop something like this now
Israel doesn't have this capability. Only The United
States has this.
And, basically, you drop a 30,000
guided bomb unit, and it goes and hits
the target on the surface, and then it
fuses, and it basically
Bombs again.

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Gives birth to another
payload
underground
that can go 200 feet.
Now
the question is how deep is something like
Ford,
which is what they're Yeah. What they're contemplating
bombing.
And from what I can see publicly that
this thing is 300 feet. Or 500 feet

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even I've heard. Yeah. Or more,
below the surface, which means that these bunker
busters might not necessarily be
effective
in one shot, assuming
that there aren't any design defects or or
complications
as the as you launch the missile
or drop the bomb, I should rather say.

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And
that's where Trump has to make the decision
that, okay, what's the mission if I decide
to do this because nobody else can do
this? And we've decided that Israel has wiped
out all of these,
research and nuclear sites that were enriching uranium
for
for for payload,
implementation.
Does this is my mission number one, is

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it delay Iran
and set their program back decades or maybe
just years? Or do I wanna make sure
that they start
complete because they can always come back. Right?
They can always it's just how long of
existing
information research, etcetera do I wanna destroy everything?
Then the question is, okay, if I drop
these from a b two,
that Northrop Grumman makes, which now that it's

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being replaced by the b 21 Raider. It's
a lot bigger, more technically advanced, but that's
that's not an option right now because it's
we're not flying that for a few years.
Do I drop these GBUs?
Do I hit the target?
Do I find out the target's a lot
further down deeper, and how many
replays do I have to do? Do I

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bomb again? Do I bomb again and bomb
again?
And then that's where the conflict,
comes in with what are we gonna do?
Does does that mean that entertains an absolute
entrance into
this war that The United States is willing
to do, president Trump is willing to do,
the American people willing to do?
That's what he's got away right now. And
he's given a two week period again. He's

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given I
the amount of time that Iran has been
given to come to the negotiating table two
days that they blew off. And guess what?
On day 61, Israel went in, and they
did what they did last Thursday night, eastern
time. It's absolutely
we're not messing around.
And Trump was definitely
we talked a week ago that, you know,
there was what Rubio's statement was from secretary

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of state from a diplomatic standpoint.
But from national security standpoint, there was no
way that president Trump and his, team didn't
know, which he he then revealed.
So, ultimately,
that's the decision that needs to be made.
Is diplomacy an option with Iran? Probably highly
unlikely.
You have to make them suffer. So the
answer right now is,

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or the the the question is, does Iran,
the not the people, but the leadership that's
been in control since '79,
do you want to abandon your nuclear
desires from a weapons standpoint,
or do you wanna die?
I like the
the idea
that

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our side
would go in
and deconstruct
the Fordow unit and take it apart. But
the problem is we don't know where else
they are hiding. Yes. And maybe in the
same,
general area, as a matter of fact.
Strategically, it would likely be

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not in the same area.
At least, that's from
a layman's standpoint. You would assume that if
you were having something like that, you would
have Two separate areas. Yeah.
So, again, that's the one that's in the
news because that's
where
Intel believes that there is significant
uranium enrichment and nuclear capabilities. Now what's very

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interesting
is how Iran has responded
to their missile payloads and what they fired
in response to
Israel. Now Israel has done something that is,
again,
masterful military campaign. They've controlled the skies, which
is usually United States
goes in, they completely control the skies, and
that's that's number one. And you wanna do

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that because you wanna be able to not
only control the skies but blow up airports
so that you can't have,
vehicles
lift off, whether they're a vertical lift or
they're or they're jets or fighter or whatever,
so to respond to the airspace control.
Now take this a step further, and you
see the rockets that have been fired because
guess what?
Every time that Iran has fired rockets from

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their missile payloads,
the and whether it's at night, it gives
away its position.
Right? And then Israel goes in and it
destroys them. So what they've done is they've
shrunk their amount of missiles that they fired
at any given time
from somewhere in
the probably fifties or sixties at a time
to 10 over the last week.
That's also very telling because it's either one

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of two things. They don't wanna give away
their position to have more of their weaponry
destroyed or they're running out of missiles.
They're running out of rockets.
And,
ultimately, again,
what we've seen in history, the only way
an adversary,
a bully, someone else
stops
is either total

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surrender
or they die.
And Israel is not messing around,
and the fact that Trump's been able, for
lack of better terms, play four d chess
to
to see Israel
do this, not The United States.
Israel
stepped up to do this. And remember, Israel,
for the most part, has a lot of
our hand me downs. They have a lot

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of United States hand me downs. We also
do foreign military sales with them, which means
that the state department and congress has to
approve any United States defense contractor selling
to Israel or any country for that matter.
And Israel has the equivalent of a couple,
big defense contractors like like Northrop Grumman and
and Lockheed Martin in country, Rafael, etcetera. So

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all this is
executing capabilities
that they're the little brother.
They're they're taking out the job right now.
They're softening up Iran. They can finish the
job
to an extent, but that's where this debate
has come in with going after bunker
bunker busters because we're the only ones that
have the capability. And the question is whether

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or not our current capability
can do the job in one shot.
If it doesn't happen in one shot, how
many shots is it gonna take, and what
kind of escalation will that create? And the
the question has always been that if something
like this happened, this would break out into
World War three, that other countries would come
to Iran's aid. Well, guess what? Russia is
not coming to Iran's aid. Hezbollah

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has not. China,
don't know yet. China's made some,
interesting developments in the last seven days that
would would give me pause. North Korea?
North Korea, look at North Korea is not
doing anything because guess what? Good morning, everyone.
This is Anne Baker together with my co
host, Brian Fitzherbert,
on Fitzherbert Friday.

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We only have a few minutes here. Brian,
I don't know whether you wanna tie up
this Iranian
problem. I I I wish that,
that Donald would call you
and, sit down with you to, to ask
you what your thoughts are on this. But,
I'm sure he's got plenty of other defense
contractors and manufacturers that he can lean on,

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with a lot more experience than I do.
But I imagine,
he's got
a lot of
different divided
viewpoints that he's hearing. He likes that. He
likes to hear multiple viewpoints, and then he
makes a decision based off that. And right
now, we're in a within a two week
period. He's not saying that in two weeks,
I'm gonna do this within two weeks. It
could be today. It could be tomorrow depending

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on how things go. And, again, Iran leadership
and the
the just the existing leadership that's been in
place in '79, they've they've got a a
situation right now. And I said it last
time. You either abandon your nuclear weapons program
or you die. It's that simple. Whether it's
Israel or The United States,

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one of us is gonna finish the job
because,
again, people are like, why is this our
problem? It is our problem because guess what?
If we don't deal with this situation with
Iran now Oh. It will be a bigger
problem later.
And
this this foe
comparison of isolationist
versus hawks is not real.

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You can't be isolationist
because there's always something that's going to happen
potentially if you do not act. At the
same time, being a hawk and trying to
be the world's police force doesn't work either.
Either. So, again, this is a case by
case basis, and Trump has run on this.
He's run on this for ten years, and
he said what he would do. There is
no option for Iran to have a nuclear
weapon because of what they have said. And

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when people say something, you believe them.
Unfortunately, that was the case with Saddam Hussein
where he was puffing his chest. We believed
him, and our intel
allegedly backed that up. And, unfortunately, there weren't
weapons of mass destruction. But we do know
from what Israel has been able to share
with The United States that there is, in
fact,

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enrichment capabilities that are, in fact, months away.
And, again, this is nothing new. This has
been going on for ten years, and every
time Israel has intel that they that Iran
is close, they've acted. They've killed people, and
they've killed and they've destroyed infrastructure.
The fact that this magnitude
was probably a five alarm fire for Netanyahu
to make a decision, and he he didn't
ask for permission. He went and did it.

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It's no different than if you're in a
neighborhood, and you know that your neighbor is
building a particular weapon that has the intent
to kill you because he said, I'm building
a weapon, and I'm going to wipe you
off the map. I'm going to kill you
in my neighborhood. What would you do? Would
you just sit around, wait, and think that
he wasn't serious, or would you believe him
and take necessary
actions?
Most common sense people would do the later.

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So, ultimately,
we're at a crossroads. This is going to
change the world whatever decision is made.
It's already being changed by what Israel did
seven days ago.
The world is a safer place without Iran
having nuclear capabilities. And now, again, not to
use the the Elon Musk as an example,
but we've talked about this. I may not

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agree with Elon Musk, but Elon Musk's desire
and motivation for going to Mars is that
the richest man on the face of the
Earth actually believes
that in the not too distant future that
there will be nuclear Armageddon on this planet
where we will kill and wipe out most
of the population. And by that time, he
hopes that there is a colony on Mars

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that can be used to repopulate the Earth
after that happens. That's what he believes. I'm
not saying I believe that, but this is
what the richest man on the face of
the Earth believes
and is striving to to have a to
have a space program and have a colony
on Mars and to become a, quote, unquote,
multiplanetary
civilization.
Now
with Iran having weapons capabilities with enriched nuclear

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and all this stuff, yes. That is a
very dangerous place because they've said flat out
that they will go after Israel and they
will go after The United States. Believe someone
when they say something. Yeah.
And I'm I'm really interested in what happens.
Should we go after Khamenei
and
all
of

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the government officials that do the dirty work?
What the people are gonna do, because the
people, at one point in time, were
absolutely they were liberty loving freedom,
the westernized
civilization
who were,
women were being trained
with educational opportunities for everyone who lived there.

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I can just see this this country
just jubilant.
I mean, it'll be there July 4. It'll
be a beautiful thing. Because if you read
back through history, right, this is descendants of
the Persian Empire.
And even further,
the when the the the Shah of Iran
and that whole again, go read the stuff.
It's really interesting. When the Shah of Iran
fell

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and this is what was installed with the
Ayatollah Committee, this is this is the current
situation.
And this has been a problem for my
lifetime plus. And you know what?
Maybe now is the time
and Good morning, everyone. This is Anne Baker
on Talking with Anne, and I am here
with my favorite cohost, Brian Fitzherbert,
on Fitzherbert Friday. And, we're discussing all kinds

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of wonderful things that are going on,
that, our president seems to have a, a
firm hold on.
And he, you know,
he
he's probably the most thoughtful,
president
in my time. I mean, Ronald Reagan had
his way about him that that made it

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seem like it was just off the cuff,
and I'm sure that it wasn't.
But when you listen to Donald Trump,
you hear him answer questions
off the cuff
that anyone will give him, friend or foe
of any kind of press, publication,
whatever, country, different countries,
and he'll answer with the knowledge that he

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has to the point that he can.
And you you know
he's he's been up probably for eight hours
already, and it's only, you know, 10:00 in
the morning.
What
what do we make of someone who's got
that kind of energy level, who's as old
as Donald Trump is?

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And with everything that happened in the last
administration,
what he would like to do to clean
that mess up
as well as to make sure that whatever
he does during these next, three and a
half years,
that it is for the best interest of
the citizens of this country and our allies.
Yeah. So Donald Trump is very fascinating because

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and it's ironic that people try to call
him a liar all this time when he
is as transparent as you possibly can imagine,
and he answers questions, like you said, to
the best that he can share.
But he answers the questions
matter of factly, and he tells you exactly
what's on his mind. He doesn't stop and
do the political thing.
If I say this, what's this gonna impact

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on this coalition or this he he doesn't
care. And he's never been that way since
he's entered politics and even before that when
he was, obviously, a real estate developer in
New York. And, again, Trump as also another
piece that's that I find
admirable that I've it's a stupid thing. I
share it too. He doesn't smoke cigarettes. He
never did drugs. He doesn't drink alcohol,

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all that stuff. Neither have I. Right? I
don't even drink coffee. He probably doesn't drink
coffee. And he realized
he, yeah, he he does drink Coke. I
don't drink soda either. I'm I'm, as my
wife would say, not fun because I don't
drink alcohol. I don't drink soda. I don't
drink coffee. I don't drink anything. You're there
to get everybody home safe. Alright? Yeah. Actually,
the funny part is in college and and
after, I was always the DD because it

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was, quote, unquote, sober fun with Fitz because
Brian was always the person to drive while
everyone else had their wanted to be part
of the fun. I was I was there
for the fun, but I had no I
had no interest in doing that. So that's
why, you know, when you go over all
this stuff to rely on sheer will that
Donald Trump does, it's it's fascinating at his
age that he's able to do that. And
it's probably because he hasn't killed any brain

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cells
from drinking, from smoking, or doing any drugs
that probably or been on drugs whether good,
bad, or indifferent
that have negative side effects. And to me,
that's that's Brian's personal opinion. Obviously, I'm not
I'm not medically,
trained in anything, but that's just observation. And
the fact that he again, he just says
things matter of factly. He tells you what
is on his you never have to wonder

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what this guy is thinking Yeah. Ever. Yeah.
And that's a positive, I think, for us
to have in a present. Yeah. Well,
we are blessed,
and it's unfortunate that so many on the
left think that, we are anything but.
But I think they're gonna change their mind.
I I I I truly believe that people
aren't that that stupid, that if, in fact,

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you watch someone
handle something that could, in fact, impact the
entire world, and that is Iran having nuclear
weapons. And if you're watching this guy, that
you're thinking to yourself, we couldn't have a
better person
taking care of this matter. I mean, do
you do you really wanna test this guy?
If if you're the Ayatollah commit, do you
really,
really

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want to
risk? And, again, they have different they have
different value system. Obviously, they probably think, yep,
cool. Come and kill me. I've got this,
and it'll all go boom when I when
I get killed, etcetera. Because that's another thing
you have to think about is if we
do, in fact, find the Ayatollah, does he
have some kind of fail safe? But
it's been seven days. If something that Iran

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had the capability of doing,
they would have done it already.
That's that's
you know, people have to remember that that
they don't have the capability, that in fact,
it has been
struck out from under them by all of
the Israeli,
hits. And and, again, they don't seem to
have any intel
either because where are they firing their rockets

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and missiles into civilian centers?
Yeah. Either they really well, that's probably they
probably really would rather Well, that's Russia. Fire
it into civilian centers. Right?
But it shows that they don't have any
intel. And the fact that IMOD,
is responding in kind so is IDF from
the Israeli standpoint,
again,
Israel has done the job of the last

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seven days. They've softened them up. They've put
this in a box for potential diplomacy.
Whether or not Israel or The United States
finishes the job because, truthfully,
if someone were to ask me what's the
likelihood of
The United States moving to finish this off
once and for all, I think Brian's opinion
would be it's probably highly likely because, again,

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the question you have to ask yourself, is
it delay or is it destruction?
Yeah. I think most people would rather rely
on destruction and not have this
as a political football every two, four, whatever
amount of years it's gonna be for the
decades into the future.
Deal with it now,
Set them back decades,
if not a century, if possible.

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And then the question again becomes
that we always ask our ask ourselves, that's
a debate. What about regime change? It's up
to the Iranian people to do what they
need to do. But we can Yeah. Israel
softened them up. Israel can finish them to
an extent. It's whether or not The United
States finishes this once and for all. Yeah.
You know, my my thing is that we're

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not gonna have to worry too too much
longer about this. We
are probably the most technologically,
beautiful
country in the world. You are involved in
the weapons industry.
There's going to come a time when there
is a weapon that,
no one is going to want you
to to be involved in. And, well, you
can look at nuclear weapons and say the

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same thing, but in fact
but in fact,
you could stop that. One nuclear strike, you
could stop that.
But there's gonna be a weapon out there
one of these days that I hope that
it's America and the and our scientists
that develop it that will keep everyone where
they belong, will make everyone a lot more

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peaceful than they are. Because right now, we've
got nukes. We've got a place like Pakistan
has nuclear weapons. India. Oh, my god. Yeah.
We're we're UK. Yeah. We're we're talking about
countries that shouldn't actually have access to those
kinds of things, but so far,
so good. Yeah. I mean, you think about
India, you think about Pakistan, you think about
Russia, you think about China, you think about

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North Korea.
Obviously, those are those are the ones that
are concerning. And then,
obviously, Iran being part of that club, they
can't be part of that club.
And,
again,
there's no
there's no reason
when they are
they've
funded terrorism

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from the government. Right? We saw this with
Hezbollah. We've seen this with Hamas.
We've seen this in multiple neighbors in that
region.
And, again, remember, Israel is the size of
New Jersey. Everyone keeps using that comparison, but
that's that's what it is. Israel is the
size of New Jersey. Think about that if
one of our neighbor states
like Pennsylvania
or Ohio

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that close
was telling you, hey. I'm developing a nuclear
program, and I'm gonna blow up New Jersey
so there's nothing left. How would you respond?
It's it's so simple. It's it's almost pathetic.
Yeah. And, again, what's happened in the last
seven days is nothing short of miraculous
from a military capability standpoint.

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And, again, Trump's got a huge decision to
make, and we've seen the debates are breaking
out all over the place.
The American people elected Donald Trump for this
moment. And you know what? It could very
well be that this is why God spared
his life in Butler, Pennsylvania for this moment
because this moment could change the trajectory of
the planet. You bet.
Ginny, good morning. Welcome. How are you?

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Hello.
You're so happy
for Brian's back.
I am so happy Brian's on. I I
love listening to him.
Brian,
what did you think
of the in your face moment?
I almost can tell what you think and
what Dan thinks as well.

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The in your face moment when
Tehran
News was on the air
and the female in her Hajib
had to stop broadcasting
because
of Israel's
deadly
on point accuracy
of hitting the TV station.
Yeah. You know It was almost to me

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like a Saturday Night Live skit. Yeah. You
know, it's
you you never wanna chuckle at something like
this, but sometimes you can't help it because
the fact that that happened help it. I
couldn't help it. The fact that that help
happened on live television showed the magnitude and
the consequences
to not only the world, but to the
Iranian people, what their leadership has been doing

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and what they're going to suffer consequence wise.
And that
it again, I hate to use the the
comparison, but you either abandon your nuclear weapons
or you die.
Make that decision. That's what Iran leadership has
to make in the next couple weeks.
Well, I thought it was a tremendous in

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your face moment.
You know? Oh, really? You know, Israel can't
do this or that or anything else.
And there it was, boom,
she gathered up her notes and left left
her desk. Yeah. The fact that she actually
gathered up her notes was actually kind of
interesting.
That she just
didn't the fact that she gathered up her
notes and she just didn't, like, book it

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and leave, that that, you know, kudos that
you wanted to take your stuff with you.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I just thought it
was I I thought it was phenomenal.
And, you know, this way, the Iranian people
with their own
eyes, they saw it. They saw it with
their own eyes.
It wasn't talk. It was action.

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And how about all the people leaving
Tehran
on the causeway?
That was another thing. They're listening to president
Trump, and they're trusting
in what he says.
I thought that was phenomenal as well.
Yeah. And, again, it goes it can go
both ways. Believe
people when they say something
because

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they're saying it for a reason. Whether they're
trying to puff
their chest, whether or not they're lying, whether
or not they're serious or not, believe what
people say and take them seriously and respond
appropriately.
Like how many?
Yeah. We're gonna get them, Ginny. Don't you
worry about it. Anyway,
Ginny Hi. Have a great weekend. My call.

(28:31):
Bye. Bye bye. Thanks, Jane. Bye.
Dan, good morning. Welcome. How are you?
Alright. Good morning. Good morning.
Looking at this picture,
as much as you can and your
analysis is on spot, it's almost as if
the Iranians
enjoy or are content with
pushing the absurdity of the boulder up the

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hill.
Yeah. Probably. That's what I look at.
Yeah. Because you gotta remember,
they they don't have a
similar value system. They want what they want,
and they don't wanna be told that they
can't get what they want. So whatever means
necessary in their view, in your in your
illustration there of pushing a boulder up the

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hill, that's what they're gonna do. They're going
to get to their goal of nuclear weapons.
And, again, if the Ayatollah has to sacrifice
people and infrastructure and even himself, he will
do it because that's what he actually believes,
that an that a nuclear Iran is the
only solution to quote, unquote
the the little Satan and the big Satan,

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little devil and big devil that he describes
United States and Israel.
True. And but it's like you're gonna knock
them back, as you said, maybe ten or
fifteen, twenty years. It's a loop with them.
They're gonna continually do the same thing over
and over and over again.
How much is the world gonna tolerate with
that? Exactly. And that's that's where the decision

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comes in of whether or not
you support a regime change. And, again, when
regime changes happen, you don't know when you
cut off one head of the snake what's
going to grow back. You hope it's better.
But, again, there's a deep seated culture that's
associated with that. And, again,
Iran has acted like this and has operated
like this since 1979,

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unfortunately.
And
or, I mean, even in the lead up
to it. So
the question is, again, to your point,
how temporary is this,
or
do we have to take the measure of
making sure this never ever happens again? And
in history, we've seen this. I don't think
we're gonna see this today. But in history,

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when this happens, if someone will not surrender
and if they are intent on doing this
again in the future, the only solution is
complete conquer
and devastation, and you kill every single one
of them. That's what's happened in history. Yeah.
That's right. History repeats itself, Dan. You know
that. You're a historian as well. Yeah. It's

(31:01):
going to repeat itself over and over again.
That. No? Hope that doesn't come to that
point with that with the Middle East. Hope
not.
That's right. Alright. Thank you. Thanks. Take care.
Yeah. It's,
AI
and that form of technology
that so far advanced,
we're gonna have to be careful that it

(31:22):
doesn't take over, the thought processes and the
ability to,
nuke one, country or another on its own.
That's the scary part about it.
But,
you know, you're part of the weapons industry.
Yeah. And, you know, it's funny. All this
stuff you see in sci fi movies ultimately
becomes
reality in some cases. Right? You know, having

(31:43):
simple things like Zoom calls, video communication.
We've seen that for decades in sci fi
before it actually became reality.
Same thing with artificial intelligence. Obviously, that was
you can think about Terminator series, Skynet, all
that kind of stuff, and now we're here.
Hopefully, it never gets to the point of
where the Terminator movies take it and the
story. But, again, these are real things that

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we have to be mindful of, and there
are capabilities
that
are just unbelievably
shocking that I've seen in my career
that
should we enact them or use these capabilities,
it's probably gonna scare,
quite a bit of the world that there
is such a capability to do
x, y, or z. And, ultimately,

(32:24):
this is it's a good deterrent.
And when you have somebody who's not a
rotting bag of oatmeal like Joe Biden was
the last four years and you have someone
like Donald Trump who is completely cognizant and
is saying what he means and has been
on the cusp of all of this and
and do you wanna test this guy?
Anybody.
And the thing about this whole situation is,

(32:45):
again,
who is the third person? Right? You and
I are having a conversation. Right? And if
we have a debate, I may never convince
you of something that we're debating. But what
about the people who are listening?
The same thing with this whole,
potential war that could escalate or expand is
we're seeing Israel
go after Iran

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and whether or not The United States makes
makes an activity or not. But what does
that send the message to? China, to Russia,
to North Korea, to any of these other
potential geopolitical
adversaries, if not flat out enemies,
on how we're going to respond and whether
or not
this will incentivize
or not China
to move into

(33:28):
Taiwan
or anything else, does Russia take their ball
and go home and say, you know what?
I'm I'm
Brian, I can't thank you enough for giving
us your time.
You certainly have your finger on the pulse
of
what's happening when it comes to military hardware
and the effect
that,

(33:48):
Iran's having nuclear weapons would have on the
world at large and
how
lucky we are to have Donald J. Trump,
who is probably one of the most thoughtful
presidents we've ever had.
He's not
well, no one is the previous administration's
president. No one. And Obama was as bad

(34:09):
as,
And anything that he says should be discarded
immediately because he really doesn't know what the
heck he's talking about. You know, it makes
me laugh about Obama because he probably kicks
himself every day that he did it so
early, so soon,
and that he probably knows so much more
today that he would be able to do
other things he wanted to do that he

(34:29):
couldn't do, and it probably kills him every
day.
Well,
not really.
Anyway,
he's,
yeah, he is not my favorite person,
and, the fact that he gave away so
much
of
Ukraine,
to Russia Yeah. Still just fries me. That

(34:51):
man, he knew nothing. He pat red lines
in the sand. When you think about all
this stuff, whether it was Bill Clinton,
that's why we have a North Korea problem.
Yep. Whether it was,
Barack Obama, that's why we have a Ukrainian
Russian problem, or whether it was Joe Biden,
that's why we have an Iran problem.
All this stuff and actually Obama's the reason

(35:11):
with Iran too Oh, yeah. With JPCO and
all sort of nonsense.
These guys are this this matters. This is
significant
with who is the commander in chief. Yeah.
And the American electorate
has direct comparisons now. They have four years
of Trump, then they have four years of
Biden. Now they're gonna have another four years
of Trump. And I'm hoping this continues because

(35:33):
whether it's JD Vance or Marco Rubio or
Ron DeSantis, one of those three, again, I
think will be Trump's heir,
to carry this forward and be successful. The
American people wanna continue
to be safe,
bring the economy back, stop with this cultural
nonsense mental disorders everywhere we look Mhmm. That
you're trying to normalize
mental disorders. Yep.

(35:55):
I think, you know, there's a potential for
a twelve year twelve year run here,
and they have to one of those gentlemen
cannot make the mistake that h w Bush
made,
which was abandon Reagan's,
route and try to form his own route.
And I get it. You're a president. You're
you're the most powerful person on the planet.
You have an ego the size of the
planet, but
go with what works. And guess what? The

(36:16):
way Trump has carried himself, love him or
hate him, has worked,
and, unfortunately,
you you can't replicate
a Donald
Trump. You cannot replace a Donald Trump. But
you can carry on his his mission, his
movement, and everything else and try to keep
it on the road instead of going off
on the mountainside.

(36:36):
Yeah.
I think I think that we have at
least twelve years of,
of progress.
And progress usually means progressive liberalism. No, it
doesn't. Not when it comes to our country
being number one, staying number one, and being
the best
number one hegemon in the entire world.

(37:00):
This is a country
that we need
to stay strong so that we can keep
the world at peace.
Yeah. And you use the example of the
last week. Right?
Israel has now done for the world that
The United States typically does. Israel went in
and they bombed the crap out of nuclear
facilities that would have been used to kill

(37:20):
hundreds, if not thousands, if not millions of
people.
Israel went and did that. Think about how
that feels that another country went and did
that to not only protect themselves, but to
protect you. That's usually what The United States
does. And the fact that Trump has been
able to leverage,
coordinate, and have the relationship that he has
with Netanyahu,
brings cadence to that. Yeah. Brian Fitzherbert, thank

(37:42):
you. As always, you give me your precious
time. I know you had meetings all morning,
and yet you you managed to get here,
at eleven and, add all of the important
information that you have,
to the conversation. Thank you. Thanks for having
me. It's always a good time on my
lunch.