6.27.25 Brian Fitzherbert WOND RADIO

Brian Fitzherbert, president of Liberty and Prosperity, joins Anne Baker on WOND radio for 'Fitzherbert Friday'. The conversation covers Brian's in-depth, accurate, pre-attack assessment of what the US and Israel might, and could do, if an attack were undertaken. They also talks about Trump, and America's, continued winning."

Episode Transcript

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And aren't we lucky those of us who
have someone around with common sense? Brian's here,
by the way.
And my Brian's here.
Oh my goodness.
Good morning, Brian. How are you?
Good morning, Anne. I'm doing well. How about
yourself? How are you? I'm good. You got
rid of those meetings a little faster than
you thought, Well Yeah. You know, they they
fill up, and then sometimes you think you

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do things a little more efficiently.
Isn't that the truth? I mean, you you
downsize in order to make things more efficient.
And if you can downsize without losing anything
of importance to the project,
you are in good shape. You've eliminated,
minutes,
hours,
days
of perhaps people just wanting to hear themselves

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talk.
Totally. Been been seeing that my entire career.
Just focus on the budget schedule and scope.
Let's get the task done and move on.
See. And, of course, that is contrary to
talk radio. I just wanna tell you.
But but that being said, it's it's all
good. And,

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yeah, I I, had had an opportunity to
read my Billy Gibson piece that has to
do with being good role models for all
those around us, especially children, teens, young adults.
We need to be the standard bearers for,
common sense
and kindness.
And,

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sometimes we fail miserably,
but if if we can, you know,
remember try to remember when we begin getting
angry,
over things that happen
in our
lives, that maybe we can just sort of
step away from them and find a way
to circumvent
the pain that usually comes with anger and

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and get the job done. I'm sure you've
had to do it probably in your in
your job,
but all of us have have to do
it have to do it with our families,
when things arise
that not everyone agrees on.
Yeah. These kinds of things need to be
resolved in a way that doesn't separate people,
but brings people even closer together.

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So anyway,
anyway,
what's on your mind, my friend?
Well, you know, it's,
our conversation
a week ago turned into,
a pretty deadly accurate pre analysis as,
your colleague Dan Klein pointed out,
of the Iran

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situation that Donald Trump took in stride, and
we've been learning of the fallout each and
every day since.
And, again,
I'll I'll I'll preface it by this. If
Donald Trump
walked on water,
the left in the media would say he
can't swim.
If he cured cancer,
they would say he didn't do it fast

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enough.
And now that he finally did what
all these presidents before him said that they
would do, that they would prevent, you know,
Obama's red line that he's such a a
word I can't use on radio.
Trump did it. And guess what? You know,
you always say and hear that the only
thing you can see from space
is the Great Wall Of China. Well, guess

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what? We can all see the boulders between
president Donald Trump's legs from space now because
that's how big they are
and how he made the decision that he
made
to keep not only United States safe, but
the world safe in the decades to come.
Yeah. It really does blow the minds of
people who have common sense that

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the left wing still
still wants to get rid of Donald j
Trump. They're even throwing impeachment charges at him
again. It is like
the left wing became
crazy,
literally mentally
ill
when Donald Trump threw his hat in the
ring,
at the beginning of the first,

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term that he had won.
A golden escalator ride. Yes.
Yes. And
and people are are are crazy. It's like
the media who were all for Donald Trump
with everything that he did, and he was
so philanthropic, and he was he was beloved
by by white, black, Hispanic.

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You name it. People love Donald j Trump
because of his philanthropy,
his clear headedness,
his,
ideas, his buildings throughout the world.
And then all of a sudden, he threw
his hat in the ring, and these left
wing I don't know whether they're socialist, communist,
but they're bad people. The left wing committed
crimes in order to try to get rid
of Donald j Trump. Even to this last

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one where the FBI
and the Secret Service under Joe Biden
literally wanted to see him assassinated,
did everything that they could, in fact, to
make sure that he was in the primo
position
to be assassinated.
And I look forward to the day when
those people maybe kneel before God to get

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their final orders, marching orders as to where
they're gonna be for the for all of
eternity
because there are people there that literally set
it up, waited for it, and then were
disappointed.
Yep. And, you know, at the end of
the day,
God said vengeance is mine,
and he'll we will take what was necessary

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when that time comes. And, again, you look
at all this stuff. The trunk derangement syndrome
is so real. I mean, I for instance,
Amazon Prime has the apprentice and celebrity apprentice.
Right? The show that made him really, really
famous. I never had a had chance to
watch when I was growing up. I was
too busy playing hockey, so I'm watching it
now. And, you know, aside so far, the
first couple seasons, pretty pretty good show. And

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the amount of relationships and network that he
had not only appear on that show, but
how he carried himself. The guy's never changed.
He's been the same since he's since he's
been in the public eye. It's only because
he ran as a Republican, started doing Republican
and conservative things.
And then what happens? You have this this
retreat,

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which
is now epitomized
with New York City mayoral
Democratic primary,
where, again, you know, you didn't have any
good chances to begin with, but now you've
got a full blown antisemitic,
just
through sort of communist Marxist
as the Democratic
nominee.

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And, you know, I'm not I'm not shade
at anyone else, but the likelihood because of
the the where the votes go, it's gonna
be a Democrat.
You know? Even with Eric Adams being independent,
I think he's gonna have a chance to
take Guy out, notwithstanding the Republican. I mean,
if you really wanted a political within your
city, if you thought something was left, you
would have the Republican nominee team up with

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Eric Adams as much as he's a Democrat,
even
somewhat sane. He's
obviously light years better than this lunatic that
just got nominated.
And this is, again, this is what completely
concludes with this Trump derangement sentence that this
is the Democrats
representative of who they want. And now this
guy is probably gonna destroy New York City,

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which is gonna have massive impacts on New
Jersey,
and it's not good. New Jersey is one
of those
unfortunate states that even when people leave, right,
for the Carolinas, for Florida,
for for Delaware,
We get,
re
we get reimbursed as it were from the
population from New York City that can't sustain
the tax in New York City. So it's

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like an s. It's like a snake. Whereas
other states, when people leave, you you feel
those effects because no one's coming into the
state at the same rate or more. And
so all these people, definitely Republicans, probably, if
there's any sane Democrats left in New York
City, they're all gonna come into New Jersey,
and they're gonna vote for Democrats here. Well,
we can only hope and pray not. We
have to take Republicans for one. Yeah. We

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we have to take a quick break, but
we'll be able to come back to this
topic,
on our return.
Please stay with us. This is Anne Baker
with Brian Fitzherbert
on talking with Anne and Fitzherbert, Friday. Stick
around. We'll be back.
And this is Anne Baker, and I'm with
my cohost, my Friday cohost, Brian Fitzherbert,
on Fitzherbert Friday. And we are here on

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talking with Anne, and we've got David. Good
morning, David. How are you? Welcome.
Anne, can you hear me? Yes. I can.
Yes. Hi, Brian.
Listen, guys. Good morning. I understand how you
guys feel about the whole Israel thing, and
you I know Anne knows how I feel
about the state of Israel.
But I think that an important thing is

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here to separate because I voted for Trump,
by the way,
and I think I am happy
with that decision. Mhmm. I think that the
decision he took to,
take the course he did with Ram
was not necessarily the correct one, but definitely
he's playing it safe. He's not going in
all the way because he knows he can't
even if he wanted to. But just as

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much delusion,
right, that the the what is it? The
Trump delusion syndrome. Right?
The same could be Trump delusion syndrome. A
lot of people
on the right. Okay? And one of the
delusions
that really has a hold on a lot
of people, especially boomers, let's face it, is
this question about Israel. And I think that

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right now, the important thing is to look
at the situation
with or rather the separation of people who
supported Trump and do not support Israel,
and people who supported Trump but do support
Israel.
So my point is the goals of Israel,
what did Israel want in contrast to what
the president Trump want? And what I say

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is that they definitely wanted two things. Okay?
Different things,
rather. These are these basically wanted to eliminate
the ability of Iran to make nuclear weapon,
regime change,
and definitely unconditional surrender.
None of that has happened.
I don't care how you spin it. I
don't care how you try to make it
look good. None of that has happened. Okay?

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Unconditional
surrender. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, David.
Our president has been telling us that he
does not want,
regime change. It's that it's up to the
people. He may want regime change, but most
certainly, he wants the people to decide that.
He just doesn't want Iran to have the
ability
to nuke

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their enemies.
And I think he did a a superb
job doing that. And, I didn't say her
president. I said Israel.
Well, I think that, Benjamin Netanyahu
has the same feelings as Donald Trump does.
He wants Israel to be left alone, to
be made as as safe as possible
from the surrounding countries that hate Israel and

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would like to see it destroyed.
Right. Did Benjamin Netanyahu
do anything of what I just said he
wanted to do, which is eliminate the ability
of Iran to make nuclear weapon?
The number one goal was regime change
and unconditional surrender. Did he achieve any of
those goals? And by the way, they're not
the goals of Donald Trump. Remember to keep

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that different.
Did Benjamin Netanyahu,
AKA Malakovsky, did he do that? Did he
accomplish those goals?
I think that he is happy with what
has happened.
You know, we set goals, and we even
have the audacity to say it out loud.
But I think that,
you know, he's still worried about the fact

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that,
he's got protests around the world against
Israel, that, antisemitism
has,
its ugly head has once more shown itself
and has for the last four years or
so shown shown its ugly head. At all.
And and let me tell you why I
don't think he's happy. Please try to understand.
The man is not happy. What the man
wanted to do was he wanted to drag

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us into this war just like he did
with Iran, just like he did with Syria,
and just like he did with Libya. Okay?
And he didn't do it because of Donald
Trump. He was not able
to really,
you know, quest the salivating thirst this man
has happened. Thirty years, remember, thirty years
to get involved to get the Americans involved
in Iran. He didn't accomplish it, and he

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didn't accomplish it because of The United States
and our dear president who has somewhat of,
of a common or, a level head when
it comes to this discussion. Okay? He was
able to do it with Bush. He was
able to manipulate Clinton. He was able to
manipulate, believe it or not, Biden,
the number one senator, by the way, who
got APAC money. But he was not able
to do that with Trump. And remember, the

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first time in American history
that you heard an American say an American
president say that Israel and Iran don't know
what the f they're doing.
Okay? So Netanyahu knows that he can't play
the game with Trump that he could with
Bush and that he could with all of
the rest of them. The neo cons and
the neo liberals from both parties, by the

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way. And he definitely
doesn't have
the ear of Raytheon
and General Dynamics.
And Netanyahu knows that, so he's scared. Okay?
The first time in Israeli history that Mossad
was bombed. Remember, the CIA?
Same thing. The first time in Israeli history
that the Defense Department building was bombed. The

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first time in Israeli history that military targets
were bombed everywhere. Ben Gurion has been closed
for weeks.
It has greatly affected the Israeli economy.
They over dealt the hands here. And the
thing that really hurts them is that they
cannot control the American president like they did
before. And what president Trump said he wanted
was not regime change. You're absolutely right,

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which is utterly against what Netanyahu wants. And
don't think that he's happy for a second,
And don't think that Netanyahu's happy about this.
You know what you really have to worry
about? Don't think that the Israeli people are
happy because they've been bombed like never before.
Yeah. And and and all of these things
that you hear about Netanyahu,
trust me, the Israeli people are gonna be

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the first in thousands of them coin protesting
for this man to go to jail for
what he's done. Okay. He's done a lot
of illegal stuff in Israel. David, thank you.
Appreciate your input as always,
and, Alright. Thanks, man. Yeah. Have a good
one. Alright. Bye. Bye.
Jenny, good morning.
Hey, Anne. Thanks for taking my call.

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I
I am very, very thrilled and happy
that Netanyahu
and Donald Trump
get along
and see eye to eye on
things the way they do.
Because it's good for the Jewish people,
it's good for the state of Israel, and
it's good for The United States Of America.

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We have approximately
4% of our population
are Jewish.
And
they need to be safe. They need to
be,
you know I mean, all this is wrong.
We should be color blind, Jenny. Semitism is
wrong. Jenny, we should be color blind. We
should be religion blind. We should

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accept people on the basis of the respect
they show others,
and they will be given respect.
That's the end of the story. That should
be the end of of the story for
every single person. Boy, isn't it a shame
that it's not?
I know. This is terrible.
Yeah.
Anyway. Mhmm. I know. I know. Sometimes there's

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so many things on our minds.
We wish we could get to all of
them. Jenny, thank you as always. Thank you.
Have a wonderful weekend. Take care. Ann Baker
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with Ann with Brian Fitzherbert on Fitzherbert Friday.
And, Brian,
you know, we we hear people talk about
what's what's going on in Israel
as well as what our president thinks of
what happened to Iran.
And, you know, you and I well, you
may one day find out exactly,

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what the scoop is,
but the rest of us have to be
satisfied
with what comes out of,
the likes of Pete Hegseth
or our great president Donald j Trump.
And we also now are getting the, the
side of the Iranians who say, it was
a a nothing burger.
What would you do?

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I mean, you are, in fact,
probably closer to,
this kind of situation, the weapons used, the
results of
than anyone else I know and and probably
most of the country.
Do you think we destroyed all that we
wanted to? Do you think they moved all

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of the radioactive
materials that had already been enriched out of
the areas
prior to the bombing?
What's your thoughts on
this,
what we're now left with?
We destroyed everything we sought out to destroy,
and nothing was moved.
There you go. Short and sweet. You're my

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next politician.
Alright.
Do you think Let me let me let
me let me augment that a little bit
because you you relayed this as
Pete Hayseth can only share what he can
share. Yeah. And that's true because this entire
op was classified.
The entire

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use of assets
and pilots
was classified.
And the pure fact that this didn't get
leaked beforehand
is impressive. It's only after when, again, CNN,
New York Times have tried to take snippets
of this again,
top secret,
meaning classified,
categorized

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report that was an initial finding.
Take a step back.
The only evidence they can use,
the CIA or whomever,
is satellite imagery
other than the knowledge of the weapons
used and how the pilots
debriefed
what they themselves saw
and did before they went

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dark, meaning no communications.
This thirty seven hour round trip,
bombing mission included,
is a long time for two pilots in
each of those b two Spirit stealth bombers.
So for any of these
desk jockeys in an air conditioned office
in Langley
and or DOD at the Pentagon

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across the river
are only relying on satellite imagery
when they do preliminary reports like this. Outside
of you getting a shovel and digging
and knowing the knowledge and the capability
of the weapons used as well as the
pilots,
all this
ringing that especially New York Times CNN is
doing is the biggest load of BS

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I've ever seen because, again, it goes back
to my earlier comment.
They've turned this political because they know
at a minimum, this is a political win
for Donald Trump. And at a maximum,
this is an overarching,
you know,
exceed Mount Rushmore type classification
for Donald Trump, and they can't stand it.
That's where this is coming from.

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When you use
this many mops
in again, use
for those Star Wars fans out there, this
is no different than the exhaust port of
the Death Star. That was their target, and
that is what they hit, and they hit
it again, and they hit it again, and
they hit it again.
Deep underground
in Forto,
this
this thing built into a mountain.

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When you know the capabilities
of these mops,
I'm sorry. That thing is destroyed,
And it will set the Iran will claim
they have a nuclear program. Sure. I can
have a piece of paper that says, guess
what? This is Iran's nuclear program.
But in terms of tangible
assets, enriched uranium,

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my opinion, that's set back decades, if not
even further because Trump has put the fear
of, let's say, Allah
in these individuals because any
scientist
or general, their deputies, their deputies, and then
deputies have all been assassinated.
You wanna try this again? Guess what? You're
gonna get killed again. That was what Trump
said.

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Abandon this nuclear program
or die.
I like it. Simple. Yeah. I like simplicity
like that.
What what really caught my eye was hearing
from, general Dan Ravencaine,
who's the chairman of the joint chiefs of
staff, when he said that there are two
men who,
since 02/2009,

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have watched the construction of that in Iran
of Fordow.
They watched it. They saw what was going
on. They lived it for fifteen
years, and
they worked with
the weapons industry
to actually
get the bombs

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like the bunker
busters that we saw work.
They actually worked with the weapons industry in
order to make the bombs that they knew
would be able to penetrate
this mountainside,
nuclear
possible nuclear facility.
Yeah. Let me

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Yes. Let me let me
if if you guys listening and and can
pardon me going to my defense contractor brain
lane right now, let me just give you
just a summary of this whole instance of
what transpired.
A GBU 57 alpha or beta mop, meaning
a massive ordinance penetrator. Right? This is a

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15 ton,
like, probably, I wanna say 20
feet, maybe 21 foot long
precision guided munition. We call them bunker busters.
Boeing makes these. They've made 20 of them
for The United States
that we know of. There could be more.
Right?
Boeing makes those. They build a moat most
people think of Boeing as aerospace. Yeah. They

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they build bombs too. News flash.
They're dropped from
b two Spirit Stealth bombers, which are built
by Northrop Grumman.
These are older aircraft. They're the most expensive
aircraft we've ever built. They're 2,000,000,000 a piece,
and they were piloted by two people,
men and women, on this particular military campaign.
Because the b two is the only thing

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that can lift
a 15 ton,
mass of warren and its penetrator on each
side of the wing. And like I said,
Northrop Grumman makes the b two. The the
newest iteration, the next generation is the b
21 Raider. You can Google it. It's it's
light years ahead of what the b two
is, but we're not gonna see that in
action for a few years now. And

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so you had multiple b twos take these
these 15 ton
GBUs. Right? Your your guided bomb units, which
means, again, it's it's guided by,
satellite. It's guided by GPS, etcetera, to hit
its target and to be come as quickly
as possible. And while this was all going
on, you also had a, Ohio

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class
submarines, nuclear submarines
fire
Raytheon
Tomahawk missiles out of launchers and tubes that
are the largest I've ever seen. I worked
on I've actually I've worked on Columbia class
submarines, which are replacing Ohio class submarines.
General Dynamics Electric Boat builds the submarines. Raytheon
builds the Tomahawk missiles that were fired from

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underwater
into
Iran
as the final piece of the puzzle once
you've done this entire destruction. Was it a
distraction?
So there was three sites. Everyone most commonly
has talked about Fordo. Trump mentioned the other
two because we don't have as much intel
as as what you were describing as to

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individuals that have watched Fordo for years.
And, again, when you come up with designs,
this doesn't happen overnight. It takes on, unfortunately,
forever. And this was the first iteration of
a military campaign use
of these bombs. We've used BTUs before, but
we've never used the mops,
because of
it it's very complicated. They're very dangerous

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to deal with. I I worked on sensor
fuse weapon. These are much smaller,
for lack of red drums hockey pucks from
hell units that break out from either third
or fourth generation f sixteens,
that we use in operation Iraqi Freedom, very
volatile.
They go after hard targets, I e vehicles,
and or or soft targets that are just
a byproduct. And again, when you're talking about

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these these I mean, think about that. 15
ton bombs being dropped
Yeah. Sequentially
in the same exhaust port
multiple times
that goes and and these these MLPs,
again, massive ordinance penetrators, they almost give birth
I I don't know how to describe it
for listeners because it's a little technically complicated.

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You you drop the the bomb, and then
once it hits the ground, it gives birth
to another bomb that goes deeper into the
ground. And from a design capability,
it was 200 feet.
And our intel was that Forto is at
least 300 feet deep.
So assuming that the design specifications

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were on target, or who knows, maybe that
was just minimum so they could guarantee 200
feet. Maybe it could go 300 feet. And
our intel and marrying all that information up,
this is why they hit multiple times, and
they sent so many b twos.
And you dropped 14 of these suckers because
they wanted to make sure this thing was
the story. Even if it is there, it's
all underground, and you're not getting to it.

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Yeah.
Well, we will be back after this break,
to talk a little bit further about
and,
thank you, Brian.
You bring the conversation
to,
its its pinnacle
when you talk about the ability of the
bombs created,
literally created because of Fordow,

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apparently,
and these two gentlemen that since 2009
watched as this installation
was built into the mountain
and then said, we don't have any kind
of munitions that could possibly
penetrate this.
It was like, oh my goodness. And the
weapons industry, once more, jumps to its feet

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and says, we can do this.
We can get these bunker busters
that will be able to penetrate
this kind of installation.
It's amazing to me, Brian. You are in
such an incredible field.
It really does amaze
me. It it's look. It's been
so far a great fifteen years of education

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and execution. Just I I love doing what
I do, but there's not enough time,
in my life to hit all the work
for all the defense contractor to work on
all these different vehicles, weapons, tools, etcetera, that
help our our boys and girls in in
war, in theater.
And every time I go to a new
job or, you know, I have a new

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contract that I have to execute or a
new customer
or a new employer for that matter, I
always learn something. And that's why it's so
it's so cool because
take this a step further. How many people
even knew what a mop was
before last week? Much less
I'm sure people were aware of b twos
because it's, you know, it's been the advertised
a lot and modified for for sci fi

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purposes, comic book movies, all that kind of
stuff. But,
again, the point is we have so many
capabilities
that the world hasn't seen yet, and I
hope we never have to use them. But
if we have to,
we can.
And a lot of that design,
we have a lot of smart people
from a private sector standpoint that these engineers

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that design little pieces of these things. I've
I've met engineers that design the smallest of
the smallest of pieces to the things as
big as ships, the ship design managers, all
those kinds of things
that they wanna put their mark on national
security. They wanna be able to contribute. They
have these ideas. Sometimes they mutate from sci
fi. Sometimes they mutate from the creativity

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of an engineer's mind or a a bunch
of engineers in a collaborative,
environment, and it's just the coolest thing ever.
But, again, you're building weapons of war. We
never want to use them. Yeah. But, again,
it never hurts to have them. Do the
weapons industries,
actually collaborate with one another when there is
something

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so necessary as were the bunker busters?
Sometimes.
We call them j JVs. They're joint ventures
where, basically, let's say and I don't know
this for a fact. Let's say a Boeing
and a Textron,
they decide they're gonna team up. They create
a new company that's a joint venture to
build
something. And more or less, they did that

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with the v 22 Osprey, the tiltrotor helicopter
that was used,
that we see all the time that or
is incredibly expensive,
$350,000,000,
piece of helicopter.
So there's there's things like that that occur,
but a lot of times, this unfolds. And,
again, I'm gonna end some nitty gritty boring
stuff here. A lot of this stuff unfolds

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when you're influencing the requirements
as a design. So let's say mister Navy
says, I need
a solution to my problem, which is x,
and he goes to industry, I e, all
the defense contractors say, hey. I need an
industry study with regard to what you could
do to solve this problem I have. What
and here in the list of requirements,

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and what do you have to offer? Sometimes,
that that phase of that design process, these
defense contracts may be on the same page.
They may have the same idea, and they
do, exclusive teaming agreements, and they and they
they get together. Sometimes they compete with one
another. Sometimes,
they may just do this one off because
someone's got a capability. Sometimes they might license

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it. Let's say that, you know, one company,
like, Raytheon, for example, has a capability, but
they're not interested in bidding on this particular
work. But someone else like Northrop Grumman is,
Northrop Grumman might pay Raytheon for a license
to use their technology or their design that
would be applied to whatever they're manufacturing in
the long run. Again, it all starts from
a theater
need
that we've

(30:03):
brainstormed
out based on current intel.
For instance, what did we just talk about?
A bunker that is below ground that's built
inside of a mountain.
Problem. How do I get to it if
they happen to get
nuclear capabilities?
Defense contractors,
I need a solution. That's like what it
is. So a lot of this is based

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on intel
that generates requirements
that then generates the design
that ultimately leads to the manufacture
and execution
of this that is either built as inventory
or you have them when you need to
use them. And it's it takes time to
do that. But this is not the first,
and it would definitely will not be the
last iteration of a design that the world

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will be introduced to for the first time.
Wow.
That's such interesting stuff.
You know? And I'm thinking, well, what about
the nuts and bolts? Who actually,
is the
purveyor of those that are then sold to
Boeing, that are sold to,
Grumman?
You know? Where do all these things come

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from? And and are they taken over
by the main
contractor for the weapon that the government needs?
Sometimes. Sometimes, you have a a preferred supplier
or a designated supplier, and this is what
creates the entire supply base. Right? When you
design something, you come up with your bill
of materials. It could be it could be

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as simple as a 100 lines. It could
be thousands, if not, tens and hundreds of
thousands of lines.
Your bill of material that makes up all
the engineering drawings of all the pieces of
all the parts that have to be put
together into,
subassemblies into larger subassemblies
into your full blown manufactured delivered product.
And a lot of times,
suppliers are just building

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and providing a bolt. A supplier could just
provide,
a metal part that happens to be cut
a certain way that only they have the
capability for. And then you have
you have issues with obsolescence,
meaning a supplier, it's not profitable for them
to make, so you have to redesign parts.
You can't get spare parts, etcetera, and you
only go to approved suppliers

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that have been vetted, reviewed. When I was
a supplier development engineer, my job for Textron
was to go to suppliers, evaluate their capabilities,
and whether or not they could actually build
what we are giving them in form of
design drawings
and build it to spec, build it with
intolerance,
and be able to actually deliver on what
they say they could. So you have entire
departments that do that to evaluate,

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and you and then you get a supplier
on an approved supplier list, and then that's
who you go to,
and you manage that supply base through the
supply chain. And this is why we never
allow any Chinese companies,
in the supply chain from a defense military
standpoint because they consistently do counterfeit parts. If
you have a design requirement of a certain
engineering material, TriNet goes for a cheap material

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and doesn't do it and says that it's
it's met those requirements.
It's a counterfeit part. If it can't absorb
heat, if it can't absorb cold, if it
can't have a tolerance, a vibe,
vibration, pass a vibration test, doesn't meet all
those things. That's why you have to do
all these evaluations to make sure that design
is correct. It does what's designed to do,
and it goes with all the other parts
within the bill of material than the final

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product. And what I've been doing last ten
years is my job as the program manager
is to manage the contract with the customer,
IEDOD,
and make sure that all these things are
happening with each of the functions, engineering, supply
chain, finance, contracts,
scheduling, you name it, to get it done
and deliver the product so they can be
used in theater. God bless you, Brian Fitzherbert.

(33:34):
Your brain, I I
actually,
I could use a little piece of it
because if I got all of it, my
my brain would explode.
But,
Brian, thank you. Thank you for being on,
for giving us your time. I know how
busy you
are, and,
thank you for,
all that you have added to the program
today as always.

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Please take care, my friend. Have a wonderful
weekend, and God bless you.
Thank you. Thanks for having me, and God
bless.
My pleasure always.