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Meanwhile,
last Thursday,
Craig Callaway was in the news.
Judge Renee Bum,
threw the book at Callaway, gave him the
maximum sentence she could possibly give of two
years
in federal prison.
And I don't know if you notice this,
but, but, judge Renee Bum, the judge who
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says
and I'm not making this up. Her name
is really Bum,
b u m b.
But she's the chief judge of the district
court in New Jersey. So she supervises. Supervises.
I I guess you have a dozen
judges. She supervises all of them. She's the
lead judge
appointed by George Bush in 02/2006.
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Absolutely hates Trump.
And she's the judge who ordered the immediate
removal
of Alina Haba as acting US attorney,
for New Jersey. So I don't know if
you followed that. Yeah, I did. So
Craig Callaway is sort of like a minor
offense
in South Jersey. So why would the chief
judge,
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of the whole court system
personally
sentence,
Craig Callaway and throw the book at him?
And
I think I have a good idea because,
you know, the real crime that Craig Callaway
was guilty of is being a black guy
using the tactics that Democrats do to get
the vote out in every single election,
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except he did it for Republicans.
And,
the
yeah. And and that the actual charge is
of the 851
ballots,
the messenger ballots that Craig Callaway handled,
four of them were claimed to be fraudulent.
And and what was the evidence they were
fraudulent?
Well, the four voters said they didn't remember
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signing the papers.
So you'll you'll ask yourself, well, well, what
the papers show? Were they forward signatures on
the papers? And, oh, they don't have the
paperwork because the,
investigators
allowed those ballots be voted and destroyed in
the ordinary course.
So all we have is the testimony
of the, of the four people who filled
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out the ballots. And you wonder, when they
said we didn't remember filling out those four
ballots out of 851,
was that because, Craig Callaway actually did any
fraud, or was it because they're afraid of
Marty Small,
who didn't want people to know that they
were working with, Craig Callaway? So who knows?
You know, I I really
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have a problem with with Callaway. I I
really do.
And I know. I know. You know, I
I and I know that you've said he's,
you know,
he's above board with a lot of things,
but I I got a problem with it.
I
I I think
I I just I think he's a he's
a criminal. That's just that's all I can
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do. You know? Well well,
well, what he he whatever it is, you
know, but in the political terms, when it
comes to getting these ballots
and I've handled ballots, and anyone who's been
in the election
knows that, you know, the rules say that
when a messenger is supposed to deliver the
ballot directly to the county clerk or to
the drop box. But every now and then,
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someone messes up or they don't do what
they said they're gonna do, and and and
the the messenger will will, like, give the
ballot to me, the candidate. And that puts
you in a dilemma because on the one
hand,
if you deliver the ballot, you're breaking the
rule, you're breaking the law.
But if you don't deliver the ballot, then
you're disenfranchising a voter. But I just wanna
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make a list
of what it took to get proof of
four
fraudulent ballots or alleged fraudulent ballots
out of the 851.
The US attorney actually publicly thanked all the
people who did the investigation,
which involved
three weeks
of video surveillance, including surveillance by drones,
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and thirteen
months of,
investigators
knocking on doors going to all the 851
people who filled out the ballots.
So you you had the FBI under special
agent,
Dennehy.
You had the FBI's Atlantic City Resident Agency,
Corruption Task Force, the Atlanta County Prosecutor's Office,
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William Reynolds, the Atlantic City Police Department,
the New Jersey State Police Department under
Colonel Patrick Callahan,
special agents of the US Department of Labor,
office of Inspector General of the Northeast Region
under the direction of special agent Jonathan Malone,
Department of Agriculture,
office of Inspector General under special agent Beth
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Ann Dinkins, and
inspectors of the US Postal Inspection Service
under the direction of Christopher Nielsen. So those
are all the federal agents,
state and local agents working for thirteen months
with three weeks of video surveillance
to find out that four people said, no.
We don't remember filling out a ballot for
Craig Callaway. So he's going to prison for,
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two,
two years.
But, I wonder if because of, you know,
going overboard like that and by having the
chief judge
who,
who removed Elena Haber, that maybe this will
come to Trump's attention and maybe he'll pardon
him.
We'll see if that if it turns out
that way.
Well, well,
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I I know he's hoping that happens.
Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
Meanwhile,
the the back to,
local matters,
Atlantic County Atlantic City's Housing Authority,
Harry Hurley, did a whole interview,
I guess, on Tuesday
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with Matt Doherty, the former
director of it.
And as you know, thanks to congressman Jeff
Van Drew,
the federal government, the Trump administration is taking
over the Atlantic City Housing Authority.
And, you know, all these awful things, you
know, the building at Stanley Home Village in
deplorable conditions,
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you had one consultant was paid $856,000
One attorney got $963,000
You had $7,400,000
no bid contracts.
And, you know, a lot of people are
joining the conclusion, well, thank God, you know,
the feds are stepping
in and Atlantic City can govern itself.
But, remember, this is just a a band
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aid.
And as far as Atlantic City governing itself,
it's important to remember
that Atlantic City has been under state control
since 2011.
So for the past fourteen years, it was
Chris Christie or Governor Murphy running Atlantic City.
But but the real problem here,
is, you know, this whole idea of public
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housing.
When you have the government run housing, it's
almost like the government running a supermarket.
You know, you have to ask yourself, well,
why would you want the government to run
a supermarket? And if you say, well, it's
because prices are too high, you can't afford
it.
Well, then there's something wrong with what the
why the government is forcing the supermarkets
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to be too expensive.
And in Atlantic City, we we know why
these supermarkets were too expensive
because,
there was no enforcement of the law for
shoplifting,
and theft and vandalism.
And, you know, the the stores you know,
food stores only deal with a,
a 2% margin profit margin. So if they're
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losing all this money from theft, they're gonna
charge high prices or they'll go out of
business.
Well, it's the same way with housing.
Normally, people should be able to afford a
house.
And when you and I were growing up,
anyone could afford a house for 25% of
your income.
So if suddenly housing becomes too expensive,
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and most people can't afford housing, it's not
that the solution is to have a government
housing just like you have a government supermarket.
You have to say, well, what's wrong
out there? What's government doing? And then you
find out that
housing is too expensive because real estate taxes
are too high.
Zoning laws and permit laws are messed up
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and make it expensive to build or fix
anything.
And the laws, that, the Democrats have,
put statewide make it impossible
to,
to evict bad tenants. It takes forever and
very expensive.
And and now you will say, well, don't
put a bad tenant in to begin with.
Now if if you want to go into
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the criminal background of of applicants,
you can get sued if you don't do
that the right way. You need a whole,
elaborate procedure
on on how you even get a criminal
background check on
prospective tenants. So all that stuff drives up
the cost.
And and then when you have the government
running housing, just like the government running a
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supermarket or the government running motor vehicles,
you have something that they call,
political economy.
And it works like this, that if somebody
wants to steal money from the government, someone
steals a million dollars from the government,
they make a million dollars and they're rich.
But what if a citizen wants to stand
up
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and stop somebody from stealing a million dollars
from the government?
What benefit does a citizen get
by keeping the government honest? And the answer
is, well, if you live in a town
that has 600,000
people, let's say, and you
save $600,000
what's the benefit? Well, a citizen only gets
to save a dollar.
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So who's gonna break their neck to keep
the government honest if you only benefit $1
by keeping the government honest,
but someone who steals $600,000
gets $600,000
So,
you know, the theory that Wilfredo Pareto came
up with in 1906
was
anything the government does is going to be
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wasteful and corrupt.
So,
have the government do as little as possible.
And and that's what our founding fathers had
in mind. That's why we have a constitution.
And that's why the government is supposed to
be limited
to just doing certain things that ordinary people
can't do for themselves.
But once we got the idea that, well,
I want the government to do something for
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me,
because someone else is gonna end up paying
for it. Once you get into that mentality,
you get what you get New Jersey. That's
what you get. And, nobody could afford anything.
And and we have to instead of just
saying,
you know, oh, there's this this theft, waste,
fraud, and government. Let's get rid of those
people.
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You get rid of those people, and the
new people come who come in do the
same thing. So if you wanna get off
this, you know, out of this revolving door,
you have to go back to basics and
say, let's just have the government do things
people can't do for themselves, and that that's
really the only long range solution.
Boy, you said it there.
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Okay. But meanwhile, the war in Gaza,
is is really, coming back to Trump again.
The big story
on the insiders,
in politics is that Trump and Republicans are
losing the support of generation z
and, you know, the younger people, people under
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the age of 35.
And a lot of that lost support is
from Epstein,
but they're saying that the biggest loss of
support
is because the country, the younger people, are
turning against Israel
and turning against Jews,
and that they see Trump is too pro
Jewish
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and too,
pro Israel.
And, and really, it means the young people,
are really becoming more and more anti Semitic.
And it's easy to understand that,
because the war in Gaza, most of that
war is not being fought in Gaza. It's
being fought in our TV screens here in
America.
And Israel and America are getting plobbered.
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If,
well, before you even got to to what
our TV is doing, for the past two
weeks, if you were under the age of
35
and got your news from Instagram
and TikTok
and YouTube,
all you saw was images of starving children
in Gaza.
And if you watched, ABC News last night,
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that's now mainstream. You just saw this whole
story
about children starving in Gaza.
And and why is that going on?
Because it's not just Gaza. It's not just
Palestinians.
There's a certain sect of Islam.
The Arabs call it Salafi or Wahhabi.
The,
in India, they call it the Diovan.
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And according to these, this interpretation of Islam,
the whole world, not just Israel, must comply
with Islamic law, which they call Sharia.
Women must be covered and subjugated.
No pork is allowed. Nobody can criticize or
joke about Islam, and Islam would dominate the
whole world. And how do you get to
that point? Through jihad.
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And jihad is total war by all means
necessary.
And jihad means,
this this is the most important thing in
your life. So whatever failure you are, whatever
sinner you are, if you die in jihad,
you are immediately forgiven of all sins and
spend eternity in paradise.
And if you're a child and you starve
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to death or or or you're killed because
your dad is shooting, you know, grenades and
rockets out of your house, you're also guaranteed
eternal life in paradise.
So that's why this jihad is now deliberately
starving its own
people to create these horrible TV images.
Just like in Japan, the kamikazes,
committed suicide,
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to kill Americans back then.
And, Israel is trying to get food in.
Hamas is shooting people trying to get food
because they deliberately want these images of people
starving.
And United Nations,
is is siding with Hamas. They only willing
to give the food to Hamas
because if Hamas distributes the food, they only
give food to the people who support Hamas,
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and everybody else starves. But but, of course,
the everybody else doesn't get on TV.
So it's a horrible situation,
and,
and Israel and America
and and those of us who see what's
going on are just not getting the word
out. Anyway,
Brian Fitzherbert is leading the discussion at libertyandprosperity.com,
Saturday morning.
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They'll end up joining it, of course, upon
Sunday, coming next Saturday.
And, thank you very much on behalf of
Liberty and Prosperity.
Thank you, Seth. Seth Grossman.
Seth Grossman, Liberty and Prosperity. The website libertyandprosperity.com.
And of course, his discussions every Saturday right
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here on the program.