Topics covered on recent Seth Grossman appearance on WPG radio. Sept 13, 2025: Full post with video below:
Sick from past week due to recent murders.
Explicit video.
Woman on subway stabbed by deranged black man that was career criminal, regularly released. 14 times before.
Bleeding out, while others stood by and did nothing.
Why don't we keep these offenders in jail?
Coddle criminals. Leaving innocents vulnerable.
Diversity. Prison population. DEI.
Fatherless black families.
Fake media ignoring true crime.
White Democrats
Charlie Kirk Murder.
Changing history. Ex: Abraham Lincoln vs Andrew Johnson, considered a white racist.
They killed a man who could have saved America.
MLK. Lincoln. Kirk. Rare gift. Self-taught. Debated hateful leftists on campus.
Who killed Charlie Kirk: those who cheered murder of Kirk. Students. Teachers. Posting their hate online for all to see.
31 yr old Kirk was major influence on Trump win.
Kirk seen as growing threat to the left. College campus with radical professors. Recorded the campus debates.
Seth blocked at Stockton University
BLM Stockton. OK to be White. Outrage ensued.
ZOOM classes. Student had Trump photo in background. Accused of hate crime.
SETH GROSSMAN: I was absolutely sick, physically sick from the two murders that we had this week and it really upset me. I couldn't sleep, I couldn't eat, I couldn't work. And not just the murder. And I'd rather use the word murder than assassinate because it's it's murder. But before Charlie Kirk was murdered, we had a sickening murder of Irina Zarutska in North Carolina. Now, of course, that happened, last August 22, two and a half weeks ago. However, the media never covered it. Not at all. The only reason it became national news was because the video came out a few days ago.
Above Image: On August 22, 2025, Iryna Zarutska takes a seat on the Blue Line light-rail trolley in Charlotte, North Carolina. Click Image for Video With Analysis by Daily Caller.
Above Image: Iryna Karputska checks her phone for messages and emails. She is on her way home after working her shift at a fast-food restaurant. She has no idea of the hate and rage of the man sitting behind her. Click Image for Link To Full Video.
When she took her seat, Iryna Zarutska had no way of knowing that the man sitting behind her had been arrested 14 times before for violent or threatening crimes. However, he was quickly released each time because Democratic judges had been told it is "racist" to incarcerate a "disproportionate" number of blacks.
Above Image: After carefully and methodically opening a pen knife while sitting behind her, DeCarlos Brown, Jr. stands up. He is filled with such rage that he takes a full wind-up before plunging the pen knife into Iryna Zarutska's neck. Click image for link to full video.
Above Image: Iryna Karputska looks in horror at her attacker after being stabbed in the neck. Click Image for Link To Full ouTube Video.
Above Image: Iryna Karputsky cries as she bleeds to death. A few seconds later, she falls to the floor. The other passengers walk off the trolley-car at the next stop and Iryna Karputsky dies alone. Click image or this link for full video: https://youtu.be/t3ZWOjHV5wY?feature=shared
Click Here for Video With Analysis by Daily Caller: https://youtu.be/JmzYtEdiTIk?feature=shared
That video showed the sickening murder of a 23-year-old woman coming to this country to be safe. She is working. She doesn't have a car. She is using public transportation. She walks into the light-rail trolley car. She sits in a seat. And then she checks her cell phone for messages and email.
And you see in the video, a young angry black man sitting behind her.
And there is no confrontation. No eye contact. No words spoken. No hint of any confrontation or interaction. He just methodically takes out a pen knife, just like he was taking out a cell phone.
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We bring in Seth Grossman and, I'm sure
Seth has plenty to say about plenty of
these things. Seth, good morning.
Good morning. And and I wanna apologize
that there were no post to our libertyandprosperity.com
website
this week,
because,
you know, I post most of the stuff
(00:20):
and I was absolutely sick,
physically sick
from the two murders that we had this
week and it really upset me. I couldn't
sleep, I couldn't eat, I couldn't work.
And not just the murder. And I I'd
rather use the word murder than assassinate because
it's it's murder.
But before
Charlie Kirk was murdered,
(00:40):
we had a sickening murder of Irina Zaricka
in North Carolina.
Now, of course, that happened,
two and a half weeks ago,
but was only and the media never covered
it. Not at all.
And the only reason it came to be
national news
was because the video came out a few
(01:03):
days ago.
And, it just showed the sickening murder of
a 23 year old woman
coming to this country to be safe,
working,
not having a car,
taking public transportation,
sitting in a seat,
and, and checking her her phone for her
(01:25):
email.
And you see clearly in the video,
a young angry black man
sitting
behind her who follows her in and sits
in a chair behind her.
And it's not like there was any confrontation.
No words were spoken.
He just methodically
(01:46):
takes out a pen knife,
you know, just like he was taking out
a cell phone and opens up the pen
knife
and just starts
stabbing that young woman,
in her neck.
And and that's the photo that came out.
But even more sickening than that
was as she's bleeding and she's curled up
(02:07):
like a like a child, and you just
watch her dying on that video,
as a father, as a grandfather
with daughters and granddaughters
being so helpless to watch that
just had a physical
effect on me.
And and when we think about what caused
her death and and normally,
(02:28):
with libertyandprosperity.com,
we like to talk about local events and
state events.
And, really, this was a local event, and
this was a state event.
Because what happened to that young woman on
that train in North Carolina,
it happened to any of our
daughters or granddaughters
on any New Jersey transit bus,
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on the boardwalk,
anywhere.
Because we have these
young,
angry,
out of control people
who should be in prison
just walking around.
And you never know,
when
someone you love is gonna be in the
path
of of one of those people.
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So
what has to be done, and why did
this happen?
Well, the young black man who murdered her
had been arrested and released for violent crimes
14 times before.
Even his family said he had no business
being out in the street.
So why aren't we keeping violent criminals in
(03:32):
prison?
Because we know it works. We know maybe
six or 7%
of the population
commits 80 to 90%
of the crimes.
So if you keep them out of society,
everybody else is safe. You don't have to
worry about security. You don't have to worry
about locking your doors. You don't have to
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worry about looking behind you,
every second,
because the people who would do those barbaric
things are not in society.
And we had that safe America as recently
as Bill Clinton.
When we remember we had the, the mandatory
jail terms. Everybody's off the street. Everybody's safe.
Yep.
We we had that in El Salvador where
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they do that.
But because of diversity,
we had that evil, you know,
philosophy that, oh,
most of the people in prison are black.
That's unfair. You know, if blacks are 10%
of the population,
then blacks should only be 10% of the
prison population.
So let's let everybody out until we get
(04:35):
the, you know, get the racial balance, the
DEI with prisons.
And and we saw how how that worked
out
because,
you know,
if if 80%
of a certain kind of criminal in certain
areas are black,
even though they're 10% of the population, yeah,
80% of the prison should be black. It's
(04:56):
common sense.
And why we have that? There are a
whole lot of social reasons. You have that
black redneck culture,
you know, that we we talked about.
We we have the fatherless black families. We
have the welfare.
We have the useless schools that teach
young black men grievance,
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but not skills and how to succeed.
We have the,
the revenge movies and a racist fake history
movies like Django Unchained.
We have the fake black history. And worst
of all,
we have the fake media on crime stories,
because
twenty years ago, the directors went out
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to all the journalists in every newspaper, every
TV network
that, that if there is a violent crime
and if the perpetrator is black,
you will not show the picture. You will
not identify the race unless absolutely necessary.
But if the perpetrator is white, you know,
show the picture, put it in the headlines.
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And so that gives it a a distorted
sense of reality
that that the the biggest danger to,
to the black community is white police or
or crazy white supremacists.
And it's a total lie. And again, the
worst lie of propaganda
isn't telling a lie,
but not reporting truth. And and that's what
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they've done.
And and then then while we're at it,
we we really have the entire
black leadership is in denial.
You know, when you think of it, the
whole civil rights movement
until
1960,
it was pro American.
It was,
give black Americans a better education.
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You know, give us a chance. Give us
an opportunity to be hired. Let us succeed.
Let us learn skills.
But we all know what happened. In the
1960s,
it took a turn
where instead of, hire us because we have
better skills, hire us because,
you know, we'll do a better job for
you at a better price. It's, you know,
(07:01):
hire us because we're we're 10% of population
and you only have 5%
in your executive board, you know, leadership. So
we're entitled to the job.
And if you don't, we're going to boycott
you. If you don't, we're going to sue
you. If you don't, you know, we're we're
gonna have, you know, demonstrations and put you
out of business. In other words, the whole
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civil rights movement
changed from,
giving us a chance
to you do what we want or
or you're you're gonna be sorry. We're you're
we're gonna hurt you.
And then we saw how the black leadership
used politics,
not as a way of protecting everybody's rights,
but to make it a career.
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Used to be if you had a black
minister in a black church, they would be
preaching justice in the Bible and values.
But now you see
how many, you know, black clergymen use their
church as a,
as a springboard or as a platform to
get elected to some office
so they could get us, you know, a
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city job, give up the city jobs to
their families, make it a career.
And that's, you know, totally the opposite of
what government is supposed to be be for.
So, so that's what we have here. Oh,
and and then, of course, we have the
white Democratic leadership
that in order for white Democrats to get
elected,
they gotta keep their rainbow coalition
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of blacks, Hispanics, and women, and gays, and
Muslims, and transgenders.
And so, you know, that's what we're dealing
with. So in in the whole,
you know, coverage of the Charles Charlie Kirk
murder,
I I think we cannot forget
Irina Zelensky and all the issues
that that horrible murder triggered.
(08:48):
Yeah. And you know what?
What's it say about judges?
You know, he was he was let go
as as,
far back as July 20 I think it
was July 25. He was charged with something,
and they let him out. They let him
go.
So so what's that say about judges?
Well, it says that the whole system is
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rotten because the judges read the newspapers
and the judges know, oh, you know, the
governor is saying, you know, we now have
22%
of our prisoners are black, you know, so
don't be sending blacks to prison. That's gonna
make our ratio messed up, you know. So
it's all along the line and and those,
judges are just part of it. Because for
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some reason,
the the black political leadership
is is more interested in advancing their careers
and making their coalition with the white Democrats
and and everybody else to keep their jobs,
to keep their power.
And what you have is, again, we're playing
Russian roulette
where you have these dangerous violent people out
there who could be set off for anything.
(09:50):
And, you know,
Irina Zelensky, I you think about her, you
think of remember a couple years ago, you
just had these random
angry black men just going to the subway
platforms
of of of New York and pushing people
into their tracks in front of trains. Yes.
I mean, that that was not long ago,
but everybody forgot.
(10:11):
So so I wanna remember her. But let's
go to the to the Charlie Kirk murder,
and and I
wish I were as optimistic as you.
But assassinations and murder,
they they do change history.
When Abraham Lincoln
was murdered,
in, I guess, a month or two after
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he was inaugurated for his second term.
Because he wanted to win the election,
his vice president
was a racist white southerner
who opposed everything that Abraham Lincoln wanted to
do. His name was Andrew Johnson.
So Andrew Johnson,
the white racist,
was president of The United States for four
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years after
Abraham Lincoln.
And because of that,
Abraham Lincoln's plan to break up the slave
owner plantations
and give,
each black family a share of that land.
I mean, that was when the reparations
should have happened,
and it would have happened because the people
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who would have paid them were the people
guilty of owning the slaves.
But in any case, because Andrew Johnson
was the president, he torpedoed that.
He allowed the KKK
to flourish,
And, and sadly, the murder of Abraham Lincoln
did change history for the worst. It took
us a hundred years to recover
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from that one assassination. So I wish I
can be share your optimism, but I but
I wonder.
And and I followed Charlie Kirk for a
long time.
And, basically,
they killed the man
who could have saved America
because you get a guy like Charlie Kirk
once in a lifetime.
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I am firmly convinced, and if anyone wants
to argue with me, I won't do it
on the the radio program, but I any
day of the week that that Charlie Kirk
was was another Abraham Lincoln.
He was already a Martin Luther
king, and he should be recognized for that.
Charlie Kirk had a rare gift of
reading, self taught,
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and combining what he reads and thinks with
critical thinking
to test his knowledge by going out
every day
to these hateful leftist college campuses
and testing his ideas.
And as as Benjamin Franklin pointed out,
when you have different political opinions collide,
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parts of truth fly out and political light
is obtained.
And by the way, that's why Rush Limbaugh
was as good as he was because every
day,
he was talking to people
with different opinions
and and dealing with it and he got
smarter every time he had those arguments.
Now, of course, are you gonna be right
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a 100% of the time?
Well, no. You're gonna be wrong a lot,
but that's the whole point of the conversation.
When you have a conversation in good faith
and somebody makes a point that you didn't
think of, you get smarter. And Americans used
to do that and and that's why Americans
used to be a lot smarter than they
are today. So,
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so now let's go to the question.
Who killed him?
And,
you know, yeah, the guy who who who
shot the bullets,
he he was the chump.
He was sort of, the one who was
inspired to do it because it thought he
thought it would make him important.
But basically, if you wanna know who killed
Charlie Kirk, just look at all the people
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who couldn't contain their glee
and their cheerfulness.
They're the ones who did it. The media
people,
the college professors,
especially the college professors, the teachers, the teachers
unions,
all those folks. And
and if you've been following,
like MSNBC
and ABC and CBS and,
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CNN for the past three months,
they were putting a target on Charlie Kirk
because the news was like it reminded me
almost like what they did to Kate Smith.
You know, when they or what they did
to Trump. It was, we all know Trump
is evil. We know Trump is ruling the
country. We all know he's a racist. We
all know he's horrible.
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But how did Trump win the election?
The theme was, well, Charlie
Kirk. God, our young people, to ignore their
professors, ignore their teachers, and to go and
vote for someone as despicable as
as, as Donald Trump. And if if this
Charlie Kirk keeps on doing this,
God knows if another generation of youth grows
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up supporting these these right wing people, what
do we you know? So that's that's that's
what was going on for the last three
or four months.
And so, of course, that's gonna
find somebody who's gonna say, oh, I'll do
the job.
So,
by by the way, you know what reminds
me of?
You you know, remember in the in the
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mafia movies, the mafia boss never said I
want you to kill somebody. Right? Right. They
don't they'd say, oh, I got a stone
in my shoe.
Did somebody take the stone out of my
shoe?
Or or or like with with Henry
the second in England. He said,
will nobody rid me of this turbulent priest,
or or even like the guy that terrorist
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who grew up in Margate? He said,
oh, boy. We have all these good Muslims
in America.
Can't anyone just kill a a topper, kill
a non believer?
And then when somebody else,
you know, somebody actually gets killed, they say,
oh, this is a random murder. We we
have no idea what caused it. But basically,
as far as I'm concerned,
the, the media was targeting Charlie Kirk using
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their little code words.
And and, you know, the the other thing
and and why would people be motivated to
to wanna hate Charlie Kirk so much?
I mean I saw it firsthand. Charlie Kirk,
what did he do? He would go to
the college campuses
where the radical leftist professors had absolute control.
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And he'd go out on the, you know,
in front of cafeteria. And by the way,
I know I I tried to do the
same thing, and I wasn't as good at
it as Charlie Kirk. I tried to do
this at Stockton.
But, Stockton would say, oh, no. We we
can't give you a table, and and you
can't do this, and you can't do that.
And I didn't have the patience
to to to do it.
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And maybe if I knew how many people
are gonna get killed
because of, you know, this this dictatorship and
their challenges, maybe I would have done it.
But
Charlie Kirk persisted.
He got the permits. He got the money.
He go day after day to these college
campuses,
and he would debate the professors.
He would debate the students,
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and he would video
this exchange and he posted on
social media so you'd see how how violent
and stupid
and,
and dangerous
these professors were and and how these students
were brainwashed.
And and they hated that.
And I know how much they hated that
because I saw this at Stockton University.
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Remember when you had,
you know, the Black Lives Matter
protest at Stockton? Yes. And one student
posted a notice on the bulletin board that
said it's okay to be white.
Now, when the when we boomers went to
college, you'd see all sorts of stuff on
the bulletin board and the professors would actually
discuss it. Oh, here's an issue. Let's talk
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about the pros. Let's talk about the cons.
But it's Stockton University. It was like the
person who posted something.
It's okay to be white. They were criminal.
They called the prosecutor's office to investigate. They
checked video. They checked fingerprints.
They did everything they could to find that
horrible person who posted a notice, that said
it's okay to be white.
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When you had the, you know, the Zoom
classes
and you had one student,
you know, had a picture of Donald Trump
behind him.
Remember what they did to him? Yeah. They
charged him with a hate crime of cyberbullying
and they and they threatened to kick him
out of school and and ruin his record
and take away his credits.
And and I saw that same
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hatred.
When I went there, you know, I did
those those the tables where they would do
that. And,
you know, and and they they want to
bring a hate crime against me. And it
turns out, you know what my crime was?
I was handing out postcards with the declaration
of independence on it.
And I said,
how can be a hate crime if you're
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if you're naming your college after a sign
signer of the Declaration of Independence and you
have the Declaration of Independence right there on
your wall. Anyway,
lot to talk about. The meetings are 09:30
to 10:30 at liberty and+thirty,uh,.com.
We meet at Sal's, coal fired pizza every
Saturday morning and I'm out of time.
Thank you very much, and I wish we
(19:06):
have hope we have better things to talk
about. Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Seth. Seth
Grossman, Liberty and Prosperity. The website libertyandprosperity.com,
and the meeting is starting right now at
Sal's Coal Fired Pizza
in Somers Point. I'm John DiMasi. It is
talk with a purpose.
We bring in Seth Grossman and, I'm sure
Seth has plenty to say about plenty of
these things. Seth, good morning.
Good morning. And and I wanna apologize
that there were no post to our libertyandprosperity.com
website
this week,
because,
you know, I post most of the stuff
(00:20):
and I was absolutely sick,
physically sick
from the two murders that we had this
week and it really upset me. I couldn't
sleep, I couldn't eat, I couldn't work.
And not just the murder. And I I'd
rather use the word murder than assassinate because
it's it's murder.
But before
Charlie Kirk was murdered,
(00:40):
we had a sickening murder of Irina Zaricka
in North Carolina.
Now, of course, that happened,
two and a half weeks ago,
but was only and the media never covered
it. Not at all.
And the only reason it came to be
national news
was because the video came out a few
(01:03):
days ago.
And, it just showed the sickening murder of
a 23 year old woman
coming to this country to be safe,
working,
not having a car,
taking public transportation,
sitting in a seat,
and, and checking her her phone for her
(01:25):
email.
And you see clearly in the video,
a young angry black man
sitting
behind her who follows her in and sits
in a chair behind her.
And it's not like there was any confrontation.
No words were spoken.
He just methodically
(01:46):
takes out a pen knife,
you know, just like he was taking out
a cell phone and opens up the pen
knife
and just starts
stabbing that young woman,
in her neck.
And and that's the photo that came out.
But even more sickening than that
was as she's bleeding and she's curled up
(02:07):
like a like a child, and you just
watch her dying on that video,
as a father, as a grandfather
with daughters and granddaughters
being so helpless to watch that
just had a physical
effect on me.
And and when we think about what caused
her death and and normally,
(02:28):
with libertyandprosperity.com,
we like to talk about local events and
state events.
And, really, this was a local event, and
this was a state event.
Because what happened to that young woman on
that train in North Carolina,
it happened to any of our
daughters or granddaughters
on any New Jersey transit bus,
(02:49):
on the boardwalk,
anywhere.
Because we have these
young,
angry,
out of control people
who should be in prison
just walking around.
And you never know,
when
someone you love is gonna be in the
path
of of one of those people.
(03:10):
So
what has to be done, and why did
this happen?
Well, the young black man who murdered her
had been arrested and released for violent crimes
14 times before.
Even his family said he had no business
being out in the street.
So why aren't we keeping violent criminals in
(03:32):
prison?
Because we know it works. We know maybe
six or 7%
of the population
commits 80 to 90%
of the crimes.
So if you keep them out of society,
everybody else is safe. You don't have to
worry about security. You don't have to worry
about locking your doors. You don't have to
(03:52):
worry about looking behind you,
every second,
because the people who would do those barbaric
things are not in society.
And we had that safe America as recently
as Bill Clinton.
When we remember we had the, the mandatory
jail terms. Everybody's off the street. Everybody's safe.
Yep.
We we had that in El Salvador where
(04:14):
they do that.
But because of diversity,
we had that evil, you know,
philosophy that, oh,
most of the people in prison are black.
That's unfair. You know, if blacks are 10%
of the population,
then blacks should only be 10% of the
prison population.
So let's let everybody out until we get
(04:35):
the, you know, get the racial balance, the
DEI with prisons.
And and we saw how how that worked
out
because,
you know,
if if 80%
of a certain kind of criminal in certain
areas are black,
even though they're 10% of the population, yeah,
80% of the prison should be black. It's
(04:56):
common sense.
And why we have that? There are a
whole lot of social reasons. You have that
black redneck culture,
you know, that we we talked about.
We we have the fatherless black families. We
have the welfare.
We have the useless schools that teach
young black men grievance,
(05:17):
but not skills and how to succeed.
We have the,
the revenge movies and a racist fake history
movies like Django Unchained.
We have the fake black history. And worst
of all,
we have the fake media on crime stories,
because
twenty years ago, the directors went out
(05:38):
to all the journalists in every newspaper, every
TV network
that, that if there is a violent crime
and if the perpetrator is black,
you will not show the picture. You will
not identify the race unless absolutely necessary.
But if the perpetrator is white, you know,
show the picture, put it in the headlines.
(06:00):
And so that gives it a a distorted
sense of reality
that that the the biggest danger to,
to the black community is white police or
or crazy white supremacists.
And it's a total lie. And again, the
worst lie of propaganda
isn't telling a lie,
but not reporting truth. And and that's what
(06:20):
they've done.
And and then then while we're at it,
we we really have the entire
black leadership is in denial.
You know, when you think of it, the
whole civil rights movement
until
1960,
it was pro American.
It was,
give black Americans a better education.
(06:41):
You know, give us a chance. Give us
an opportunity to be hired. Let us succeed.
Let us learn skills.
But we all know what happened. In the
1960s,
it took a turn
where instead of, hire us because we have
better skills, hire us because,
you know, we'll do a better job for
you at a better price. It's, you know,
(07:01):
hire us because we're we're 10% of population
and you only have 5%
in your executive board, you know, leadership. So
we're entitled to the job.
And if you don't, we're going to boycott
you. If you don't, we're going to sue
you. If you don't, you know, we're we're
gonna have, you know, demonstrations and put you
out of business. In other words, the whole
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civil rights movement
changed from,
giving us a chance
to you do what we want or
or you're you're gonna be sorry. We're you're
we're gonna hurt you.
And then we saw how the black leadership
used politics,
not as a way of protecting everybody's rights,
but to make it a career.
(07:44):
Used to be if you had a black
minister in a black church, they would be
preaching justice in the Bible and values.
But now you see
how many, you know, black clergymen use their
church as a,
as a springboard or as a platform to
get elected to some office
so they could get us, you know, a
(08:04):
city job, give up the city jobs to
their families, make it a career.
And that's, you know, totally the opposite of
what government is supposed to be be for.
So, so that's what we have here. Oh,
and and then, of course, we have the
white Democratic leadership
that in order for white Democrats to get
elected,
they gotta keep their rainbow coalition
(08:25):
of blacks, Hispanics, and women, and gays, and
Muslims, and transgenders.
And so, you know, that's what we're dealing
with. So in in the whole,
you know, coverage of the Charles Charlie Kirk
murder,
I I think we cannot forget
Irina Zelensky and all the issues
that that horrible murder triggered.
(08:48):
Yeah. And you know what?
What's it say about judges?
You know, he was he was let go
as as,
far back as July 20 I think it
was July 25. He was charged with something,
and they let him out. They let him
go.
So so what's that say about judges?
Well, it says that the whole system is
(09:08):
rotten because the judges read the newspapers
and the judges know, oh, you know, the
governor is saying, you know, we now have
22%
of our prisoners are black, you know, so
don't be sending blacks to prison. That's gonna
make our ratio messed up, you know. So
it's all along the line and and those,
judges are just part of it. Because for
(09:29):
some reason,
the the black political leadership
is is more interested in advancing their careers
and making their coalition with the white Democrats
and and everybody else to keep their jobs,
to keep their power.
And what you have is, again, we're playing
Russian roulette
where you have these dangerous violent people out
there who could be set off for anything.
(09:50):
And, you know,
Irina Zelensky, I you think about her, you
think of remember a couple years ago, you
just had these random
angry black men just going to the subway
platforms
of of of New York and pushing people
into their tracks in front of trains. Yes.
I mean, that that was not long ago,
but everybody forgot.
(10:11):
So so I wanna remember her. But let's
go to the to the Charlie Kirk murder,
and and I
wish I were as optimistic as you.
But assassinations and murder,
they they do change history.
When Abraham Lincoln
was murdered,
in, I guess, a month or two after
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he was inaugurated for his second term.
Because he wanted to win the election,
his vice president
was a racist white southerner
who opposed everything that Abraham Lincoln wanted to
do. His name was Andrew Johnson.
So Andrew Johnson,
the white racist,
was president of The United States for four
(10:53):
years after
Abraham Lincoln.
And because of that,
Abraham Lincoln's plan to break up the slave
owner plantations
and give,
each black family a share of that land.
I mean, that was when the reparations
should have happened,
and it would have happened because the people
(11:13):
who would have paid them were the people
guilty of owning the slaves.
But in any case, because Andrew Johnson
was the president, he torpedoed that.
He allowed the KKK
to flourish,
And, and sadly, the murder of Abraham Lincoln
did change history for the worst. It took
us a hundred years to recover
(11:34):
from that one assassination. So I wish I
can be share your optimism, but I but
I wonder.
And and I followed Charlie Kirk for a
long time.
And, basically,
they killed the man
who could have saved America
because you get a guy like Charlie Kirk
once in a lifetime.
(11:55):
I am firmly convinced, and if anyone wants
to argue with me, I won't do it
on the the radio program, but I any
day of the week that that Charlie Kirk
was was another Abraham Lincoln.
He was already a Martin Luther
king, and he should be recognized for that.
Charlie Kirk had a rare gift of
reading, self taught,
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and combining what he reads and thinks with
critical thinking
to test his knowledge by going out
every day
to these hateful leftist college campuses
and testing his ideas.
And as as Benjamin Franklin pointed out,
when you have different political opinions collide,
(12:38):
parts of truth fly out and political light
is obtained.
And by the way, that's why Rush Limbaugh
was as good as he was because every
day,
he was talking to people
with different opinions
and and dealing with it and he got
smarter every time he had those arguments.
Now, of course, are you gonna be right
(12:58):
a 100% of the time?
Well, no. You're gonna be wrong a lot,
but that's the whole point of the conversation.
When you have a conversation in good faith
and somebody makes a point that you didn't
think of, you get smarter. And Americans used
to do that and and that's why Americans
used to be a lot smarter than they
are today. So,
(13:21):
so now let's go to the question.
Who killed him?
And,
you know, yeah, the guy who who who
shot the bullets,
he he was the chump.
He was sort of, the one who was
inspired to do it because it thought he
thought it would make him important.
But basically, if you wanna know who killed
Charlie Kirk, just look at all the people
(13:43):
who couldn't contain their glee
and their cheerfulness.
They're the ones who did it. The media
people,
the college professors,
especially the college professors, the teachers, the teachers
unions,
all those folks. And
and if you've been following,
like MSNBC
and ABC and CBS and,
(14:06):
CNN for the past three months,
they were putting a target on Charlie Kirk
because the news was like it reminded me
almost like what they did to Kate Smith.
You know, when they or what they did
to Trump. It was, we all know Trump
is evil. We know Trump is ruling the
country. We all know he's a racist. We
all know he's horrible.
(14:28):
But how did Trump win the election?
The theme was, well, Charlie
Kirk. God, our young people, to ignore their
professors, ignore their teachers, and to go and
vote for someone as despicable as
as, as Donald Trump. And if if this
Charlie Kirk keeps on doing this,
God knows if another generation of youth grows
(14:50):
up supporting these these right wing people, what
do we you know? So that's that's that's
what was going on for the last three
or four months.
And so, of course, that's gonna
find somebody who's gonna say, oh, I'll do
the job.
So,
by by the way, you know what reminds
me of?
You you know, remember in the in the
(15:11):
mafia movies, the mafia boss never said I
want you to kill somebody. Right? Right. They
don't they'd say, oh, I got a stone
in my shoe.
Did somebody take the stone out of my
shoe?
Or or or like with with Henry
the second in England. He said,
will nobody rid me of this turbulent priest,
or or even like the guy that terrorist
(15:33):
who grew up in Margate? He said,
oh, boy. We have all these good Muslims
in America.
Can't anyone just kill a a topper, kill
a non believer?
And then when somebody else,
you know, somebody actually gets killed, they say,
oh, this is a random murder. We we
have no idea what caused it. But basically,
as far as I'm concerned,
the, the media was targeting Charlie Kirk using
(15:56):
their little code words.
And and, you know, the the other thing
and and why would people be motivated to
to wanna hate Charlie Kirk so much?
I mean I saw it firsthand. Charlie Kirk,
what did he do? He would go to
the college campuses
where the radical leftist professors had absolute control.
(16:17):
And he'd go out on the, you know,
in front of cafeteria. And by the way,
I know I I tried to do the
same thing, and I wasn't as good at
it as Charlie Kirk. I tried to do
this at Stockton.
But, Stockton would say, oh, no. We we
can't give you a table, and and you
can't do this, and you can't do that.
And I didn't have the patience
to to to do it.
(16:38):
And maybe if I knew how many people
are gonna get killed
because of, you know, this this dictatorship and
their challenges, maybe I would have done it.
But
Charlie Kirk persisted.
He got the permits. He got the money.
He go day after day to these college
campuses,
and he would debate the professors.
He would debate the students,
(16:59):
and he would video
this exchange and he posted on
social media so you'd see how how violent
and stupid
and,
and dangerous
these professors were and and how these students
were brainwashed.
And and they hated that.
And I know how much they hated that
because I saw this at Stockton University.
(17:21):
Remember when you had,
you know, the Black Lives Matter
protest at Stockton? Yes. And one student
posted a notice on the bulletin board that
said it's okay to be white.
Now, when the when we boomers went to
college, you'd see all sorts of stuff on
the bulletin board and the professors would actually
discuss it. Oh, here's an issue. Let's talk
(17:42):
about the pros. Let's talk about the cons.
But it's Stockton University. It was like the
person who posted something.
It's okay to be white. They were criminal.
They called the prosecutor's office to investigate. They
checked video. They checked fingerprints.
They did everything they could to find that
horrible person who posted a notice, that said
it's okay to be white.
(18:04):
When you had the, you know, the Zoom
classes
and you had one student,
you know, had a picture of Donald Trump
behind him.
Remember what they did to him? Yeah. They
charged him with a hate crime of cyberbullying
and they and they threatened to kick him
out of school and and ruin his record
and take away his credits.
And and I saw that same
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hatred.
When I went there, you know, I did
those those the tables where they would do
that. And,
you know, and and they they want to
bring a hate crime against me. And it
turns out, you know what my crime was?
I was handing out postcards with the declaration
of independence on it.
And I said,
how can be a hate crime if you're
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if you're naming your college after a sign
signer of the Declaration of Independence and you
have the Declaration of Independence right there on
your wall. Anyway,
lot to talk about. The meetings are 09:30
to 10:30 at liberty and+thirty,uh,.com.
We meet at Sal's, coal fired pizza every
Saturday morning and I'm out of time.
Thank you very much, and I wish we
(19:06):
have hope we have better things to talk
about. Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Seth. Seth
Grossman, Liberty and Prosperity. The website libertyandprosperity.com,
and the meeting is starting right now at
Sal's Coal Fired Pizza
in Somers Point. I'm John DiMasi. It is
talk with a purpose.
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