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We have Seth Grossman, Liberty and Prosperity, and
his website
libertyandprosperity.com.
Seth, good morning. Welcome.
Good morning. And, of course, Liberty and Prosperity
meets every Saturday morning from 09:30 to 10:30
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And we invite people to sign up for
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But but our main priority right now,
is,
in New Jersey, we have an election for
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governor
in,
in just coming up in November.
And
even though we were talking a lot about
the socialist,
Mikey Sherrill,
rather the socialist in New York,
what his name is, Zohar Mamdani,
who is openly a social a socialist.
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Here in New Jersey,
Mikey Sheryl basically agrees with with,
the socialist in every point.
And the proof of it is how, Baraka,
who is the, I guess, the mayor of,
of of of Newark, who was a candidate
for governor, just as radical as Mamdani,
did much better than a lot of people
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expected. And the fact that he and Mikey
Shirell
are so so close to each other just
shows how close in New Jersey
we are to getting where New York is.
And so we really have to get to
the basics, and the basic is
we have brainwashed
where we allowed our schools and media
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and Hollywood to brainwash
our kids and grandkids and nieces and nephews
to hate America for the past sixty years.
And while we boomers have a little bit
of money, a little bit of time, and
a few years left, how could we undo
that damage? And that's basically what Liberty and
Prosperity does. We do it at our breakfast.
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We do it on the radio.
We do it with our postcards.
We do it with our social media. We
have a Twitter account.
But really, the the best way to reach
our kids is for you,
the boomers who are listening,
to look for, you know, don't, you know,
give harangues to your kids or just, you
know, just turn them off, but just look
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for little opportunities
to teach some of the basic truths about
America
that we learned growing up.
And and one of them is this idea
of government by consent that America is not
a democracy.
We're a democratic republic.
So, yeah, we we use democracy to elect
the people who run our government.
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But once we elect them, the people we
elect aren't allowed to just do what they
feel like doing. They have to follow a
constitution.
They have to follow rules. They have to
respect the equal rights of everybody.
And you can't, you know, take away from
some people to give to other people just
because you have more votes than the other
people. So,
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I gave a few examples last week of
and I remember you asked me, well, how
you do government by consent?
And I gave you a few examples.
And one of the great things about our
Saturday breakfast
is, most of the folks at breakfast said,
no, Seth. You did a lousy job explaining
that. You're a better idea.
So,
so and so we talked about it a
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a lot last week. And so here's a
better example of government by consent. Government by
consent includes
the right to move away from problems.
So if you live in a town with
high crime, high taxes and bad schools,
you know, government by consent means you have
the right to move to a different town
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with low crime, low taxes, and good schools.
And if towns that have bad schools and
high tax is in high
crime, don't like people moving away,
then they have to do a better job
of running their towns.
But the Democrats in New Jersey have just
done the opposite for the past fifty years.
And they passed a whole bunch of state
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laws
that force people in good towns
to pay for people in bad towns. You
know, it forces people in the suburbs to
pay an income tax
where 90% of that tax money we pay
goes into, you know, towns with,
towns with, you know, lousy schools and high
taxes.
And and then when you move to the
suburbs,
we have state laws that force us to
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build, quote, affordable housing
so that the people we wanted to move
away from end up moving right next
door. In fact, the state has laws that
basically force landlords
to rent to people with criminal records.
So that's an example of government by consent
to let people move away from problems.
And we have to protect that right
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instead of letting Democrats do everything they can,
to say, yeah. You you run away from
the your problems, and now we're gonna have
the problems, you know, move in right next
door. So we got to recognize that. That's
one example.
Well, I hope that, your committee, when you
get back today, will will accept that.
We'll we'll we'll see what reception I get.
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By the way, there was a very interesting
state supreme court case,
I don't know if you're familiar with, in
a a place called Berkeley Township.
So you have Berkeley Township,
which is just, I guess, on Garden State
Parkway Exit 77,
right next to Toms River.
And,
and they,
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there was a they have a beach area.
It's very much like, say, Strathmere
in Upper Township,
which is on the beach, but they're part
of Upper Township
or Seaview Harbor,
which is right next
to Longport on the road between Longport and
Somers Point.
So you have these high luxury homes,
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and they pay enormous amounts of taxes.
But they're part of these high tax townships,
like Seaview Harbor is part of,
Egg Harbor Township.
Strathmere is part of Upper Township. You have
a place called West, Avalon West,
by Avalon, which is part of Middle Township.
So all all these people pay huge taxes,
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and they don't get any services because they're
nowhere near where the main township is.
In fact, in Seaview Harbor, he had the
mayor of Egg Harbor Township, Sonny McCullough.
Even he couldn't afford his house, and he
had to move out out of his own
township, and he was the mayor.
So you have this, in Berkeley Township where
you have something called South Seaside Park. It's
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an island.
And they wanted to
secede
from the township.
And the Supreme Court Thursday said, yes. They're
allowed to do it.
So I wonder if that's gonna set a
precedent
for Seaview Harbor,
Strathmere,
or West,
or Avalon West to do the same thing
because they they they pay these huge taxes.
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They don't get any of the benefit.
I have a feeling that this is just
a one shot deal, but it's interesting that,
again,
government by consent means
that if you're
living in a neighborhood,
that has bad, you know, government, high taxes,
high crime, you're not getting anything for the
government. Government by consent means you have the
right to break away and
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and and join a different town,
that,
you know, that does what you want.
And and we see the same thing with
school choice that,
if the government the state is basically paying
$20,000
a student,
to to pay for you to be in
a certain public school,
a government by consent would say, well, you
should be able to, you know, enroll your
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kid in any per you know, private school
or public school and use that that same
$20,000
the way you want
and not the way the
politicians, the majority vote in your, town wants.
So those are probably better examples
of of government by consent.
Glad you cleared that up for us.
And and by the way, the, probably the
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best example is what's going on in Ocean
City
with with poor, Eustace Nita and his at
the ICONA Hotel who wants to,
he wants to build at six in the
boardwalk.
Last Wednesday, I was on a music pier,
seeing seeing this fantastic concert by the Ocean
City Pops Orchestra,
which is probably one of the most professional
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orchestras you have down here. And and as
I was enjoying the concert for the intermission,
I saw you had some people, you know,
handing out, leaflets that said to save Ocean
City, stop, the hotel.
And and I I looked out from the
music pier, and you saw this lively Ocean
City Boardwalk. Was just a pleasure to be
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there,
But the the boardwalk is dead at Seventh
Street. You just have this dead zone where
the, the Wonderland Pier used to be.
And you say,
you know, why is that? Well, that's a
typical example of
the difference between democracy
and government with the consent of the governed.
Because with democracy, if most people say, now
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we don't want a hotel there, the politicians
deny the permits, and you can't build a
hotel,
in in a good section of the boardwalk.
But if you have government with the consent
of the governed,
you would allow someone like Eustace Neda. He
says, well, I think there ought to be
a hotel here. So he builds a hotel.
And and
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if if it turns out it's a good
idea,
then people would come to the hotel. He'd
make money. It would be a success.
And if it turns out that if Eustace
Leiter makes a mistake and it's a bad
idea,
then people would not go to the hotel.
He'd lose money, and then he'd sell, and
and somebody would build something else there. So
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the question is, who decides
whether there should be a hotel at six
in the Boardwalk in Ocean City? Should it
be the government? Should it be the voters?
Or should it be, you know, the people
who build and the customers who use? So
that's probably a a better example.
Well, now that you put it that way,
what is the answer?
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Well, the the answer is,
you know, I'm just hoping that the the
the Ocean City officials
would just say, my goodness.
You know, let the people who have the
most at stake make the decisions as to
what's best for their property.
And, because what we have right now where
where nothing is there, it's just it's just
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bad. You know? You see a whole you
see a whole section of town. It's just
a dead zone, but I'll leave that for
Ocean City.
Meanwhile, and back to some some national news,
the, of course, the key national news is
the the so called outrage over the, the
deportations
that Trump is doing.
And we just have
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to tell ourselves over and over again, if
we wanna save our country,
as ugly as they look, the deportations
must continue.
8,000,000,000 people in the world,
3,000,000,000 living in extreme poverty.
Those 3,000,000,000 are in extreme poverty because they
live in countries that don't share our culture,
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that don't respect,
the 10 commandments, love your neighbor as yourself,
that don't respect individual liberty, protection of unalienable
rights.
They have a culture where you do whatever
you get away with, and and I I
could whatever I do to benefit me and
my family is okay if if I don't
get caught. That's the culture they have there.
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And if we bring 3,000,000,000 people from those
cultures to our culture, we're not gonna improve
their way of life, and they're just gonna
drag us down. And the only way to
do it is you have to say, it
doesn't matter
if illegal immigrants,
are committing a crime
or not.
The important thing is our country can only
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afford to have a certain small number of
people come in each year.
We've had these immigration laws since 1920.
When we enforce them, America was great.
When we stopped enforcing them in the nineteen
nineties, America started to unravel.
And so as ugly as it looks,
we have to make sure that the law
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is enforced.
And and by the way, that ties into
something that, that George Tibbitt was talking about
yesterday
in an interview with Harry Hurley.
He was talking about what's killing,
you know, people in New Jersey today, especially
young people,
is the outrageous cost of insurance.
The high cost of,
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of,
property insurance,
insurance,
the high cost of auto insurance.
And as George Tibbitt pointed out,
most of those high costs are subsidies
or indirect taxes to pay for illegal immigrants.
We pay high health insurance because we have
to pay the hospitals for the oldest free
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care they're giving the illegal immigrants.
We have to pay high auto insurance,
because of, all the,
the, accidents that illegal immigrants are having,
injuring people, breaking, you know, cars.
And and who pays for it? Well, the
the responsible people who pay for the insurance
were paying double what we should be paying.
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So, the the hidden cost of of illegal
immigration are out there, but we forget about
it a lot.
Yeah. That that
you're right. There's so much to hidden costs.
There really is.
And and just one one
other detail.
The, one of our our projects is I'm
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writing a history book,
on the the rarely taught essential history of
South Jersey,
and the first 15 chapters are posted on
our libertyandprosperity.com
website.
And I invite people to look at it,
and we're looking for comment before it goes
to final publication.
But one of the interesting things I forgot
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talking to you last week when we were
talking about socialism is that America started out
with socialism.
In sixteen o seven,
the Jamestown Colony in Virginia,
when the settlers came, they didn't own private
property.
They all the property was owned in common.
They would harvest the crops. They would put
all the food into a storehouse,
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and then they distribute the food based on
who needed it.
Guess what happened? Within three years,
they almost starved to death because nobody was
working very hard and nobody saw a need
to work hard if most of what you
were working for was going for somebody else.
So after they had a
period called the starving time, when two thirds
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of the colony died of starvation,
they they changed the system. They gave each
family its own land.
And surprise, surprise,
the families would work day and night to
clear the land, harvest their crops,
weed the crops, and they had bountiful harvest
when they got rid of socialism and everybody
worked for themselves and got to keep,
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you know, what they produced.
And the same thing happened with the pilgrims
in Plymouth.
When they founded,
the the pilgrims came,
in 1620,
most of the people starved because they they
owned all the land in common. They worked
the land in common,
and they they didn't become prosperous until they
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divided the land and gave each family their
own land.
And only then and people work hard and,
and take care of their crops and,
and they prospered. So because of that experience,
that's how America embraced capitalism and freedom.
It's not like we didn't try socialism first.
We did.
But unless we teach this type of history
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to our kids, they're never gonna know.
And and that's a pretty good pretty good
definition.
There's just no incentive with socialism.
That that's the point.
Where you spend all your energy
trying to play politics,
to chisel stuff from somebody else as opposed
to producing it yourself.
And and that leads us to the the
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final issue,
which is,
you know, where the young people are turning
against the boomer generation
is the war in Gaza.
We keep forgetting that the Gaza Strip where
all the fighting is taking place is a
141
square miles,
the exact same size of Philadelphia.
And Philadelphia also has a 141
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square miles. Both Philadelphia
and Gaza both have about 2,000,000 people.
So imagine what it would it take to
to fight a war in Philadelphia
where the enemy spent twenty years building hundreds
of miles of tunnels
connected to every single house.
And so you see these horrible videos on
TikTok and YouTube and Instagram
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showing, Israeli soldiers,
killing children.
But look at at the way the war
is is being fought.
Hamas uses tunnels to ambush and kill Israeli
soldiers from behind.
Then they run into the tunnels, and they
go back to their homes through the tunnels.
So if you're an Israeli soldier, what do
you do?
Do you attack the house with women and
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children there that's been booby trapped?
Do you let the soldiers alone in the
house so they could come out of their
tunnels later and kill you later?
Or do you wait out the enemy and
and hope you get a clear shot and
and try to bomb
or or shoot when when there are fewer
civilians around?
No matter what you do, innocent people are
gonna get killed.
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But and a lot of our veterans
understand that who've been at war.
But our, you know, the younger kids,
don't understand that. And and we've just gotta
tell them the reality
that if Israel
loses this war,
we're gonna see the same
Wahhabi, Salafi,
jihad extremist
doing the same thing in this country. So
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we've just have to do what we have
to do
to stop that jihad. So that's the the
image that we we
and again, this is a psychological
war. It's fought with, with images on on
TikTok and
and YouTube and Instagram,
as much as it is on the battlefield.
But but our kids are just so gullible.
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They're not prepared to deal with this propaganda.
And we, the parents, have to teach them
now what we forgot to teach them or
never taught them for the last, sixty years.
Anyway, Liberty and Prosperity meeting Saturday morning, 09:30
to 10:30,
at Sal's Cafe, and everything we talk about
is posted online
at libertyandprosperity.com.
So please have another great week, another great
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summer week. You too, Seth. Seth Grossman, Liberty
and Prosperity. The website, libertyandprosperity.com.