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(00:00):
I'm John DeMasi. Good to have you with
us and good to be back. And, thanks
many thanks
to, Seth Grossman for filling in for me
and doing a great job. And, now you're
happy to be back doing twenty minutes instead
of three hours. Right, Seth?
Absolutely. Much more enjoyable.
So,
let me just give a a quick rundown
(00:21):
on on what libertyandprosperity.com
has been doing lately. Of course, we meet
every Saturday morning from 09:30 to 10:30
at Sal's Coal Fired Pizza in Somers Point.
And all the stuff that I want to
talk about but never get to post at
libertyandpress30.com.
Everybody is invited to get a free email
update
(00:41):
by either
emailing us at info,INFO,@libertyandprosperity.com.
And if you like what we're doing,
please send us a check or
donate so we can stay
at the John DeMasi program,
because we we I we really enjoy this
partnership that we have.
Before I I talk about Trump, I just
(01:02):
wanna thank everybody for the support they gave
us
on our Richard Summers
event,
on Thursday, September 4. Because the Richard Summers
story is important
on a lot of levels.
It tells good things about
traditional America.
It tells the truth about bad things about
our enemies.
(01:23):
And if you see what the public schools
are doing, the colleges are doing, the,
the media, the Hollywood,
pop culture,
any story
that makes America look good,
is never sees the light of day.
And any story that tells the truth about
enemies who are trying to destroy America
never see the light of day. So that's
(01:43):
why the Richard Sommer story was so important.
And I wanna really thank Harry Hurley for
allowing me to showcase
that story on the Wednesday program. And if
anyone wants to hear it, I'm sure there's
a a way to go to the, the
WPG Talk Radio website,
and get the podcast.
But I also wanna thank you know, we
always complain about the media,
(02:05):
but the local media
has been fantastic
on this issue.
We have a publication here called Sure Local,
where you you get it for free. It's
distributed at almost all the
the local food stores.
And and they showcased the the, Richard Summer
story in a way that I recommended everybody
listening
(02:25):
pick up the September 4 edition of,
Shore Local and and put it on your
coffee table, share it with your kids, share
it with your, you know, your, your democratic
friends because it'll it really tells a powerful
story.
And also the Ocean City Sentinel
did a whole piece in its August 27
edition, and the reporter came. The reporter,
(02:48):
said he's going to do another story,
next Wednesday. So check your local media. And,
of course, it's posted at libertyandflash30.com.
Yeah. You you you got a lot of
mileage out of that.
And and it and it should because at
remember, at one time, every school child knew
who Richard Summers was
and and why he was important, but it's
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on on so many levels.
You know you know the other thing, he
was a young guy,
wasn't he? Right. Not only
right. Right. That's the other element that no
one wants to mention,
that at the age of 24
actually, 23,
they not only gave him a warship at
age 23,
it was his job to turn a merchant
(03:30):
ship into a warship.
And then he sells it from, from Baltimore
to, to Spain. You know, no radio, no
modern navigation, commanding a crew of a 103
people,
at the age of of 23,
and all the sea captains were that age.
And the reason that that America, young Americans,
(03:51):
were,
were such leaders at such a young age
is it used to be an eighth grade
education was a compliment.
Because when you finished
eight grades of American education, you were better
educated than most college graduates today,
at at age 16. And you also learned
a trade. So we we have to find
out. It seems that the more money we're
(04:12):
spending on education,
the less educated Americans have gotten. So that's
I I think that's another reason why the
Richard Summer story is not popular
with our union public school teachers. But there
there there are just many, many angles to
it.
But but anyway, let me let me talk
about about, Donald Trump. And and I never
know if I'm speaking for the group or
not because a lot of times I'll go
(04:34):
in and and I'll say, well, what did
you say that for? You you when next
week, you apologize for it. But but but
but here's the way I see see it.
Most of us listening right now, we agree
with what Donald Trump is doing
and and what he's saying, and we want
him to be strong.
But,
you know, I had a sailboat
(04:54):
for many years.
And to me, politics is like being in
a sailboat.
When you're in a motorboat,
you you know where you wanna go. You
point the boat where you wanna go, and
you get there.
But in a sailboat, if you point your
boat where you wanna go, you'll never get
there because the wind and the current will
push you in a completely different direction.
(05:15):
So if you wanna get somewhere in a
sailboat, you have to adjust for the wind
and the tide, and you have to zigzag
to get to where you wanna go.
And and politics is the same way.
You can't win an election with the people
who agree with you on everything. There just
aren't enough of us. We have to get
a whole bunch of people who disagree with
(05:35):
us
on most issues
and and get them to to vote for
our candidate.
So so how do you make Trump strong?
In my opinion, you don't make Trump strong
by saying how much you love Trump and
expect every Republican to say, I love Trump
all the time.
The way to make Trump strong is there
(05:55):
are two elections less than two months away.
You have the governor of New Jersey,
Jack Ciattarelli is the Republican running against the
Democrat,
and you have a
Republican in Virginia
running against the Democrat.
Now if Republicans
win those two elections,
Trump will be very, very strong.
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But if he loses those elections,
they'll blame regardless of of the candidate, they're
gonna blame Trump for losing those elections
and will make,
Trump weak.
So for Trump to be strong, in my
personal opinion, I don't know if the rest
of the group agrees yet,
Jack Ciattarelli needs to win this election.
So that's why I I don't wanna spend
(06:39):
a lot of time talking about what's going
on in Chicago.
I don't wanna talk a lot about what's
happening in New York. I wanna talk about
how we can persuade people
to vote for Jack Ciattarelli here in New
Jersey.
So,
a lot of times people say, well, well,
Jack Ciattarelli is not doing enough to support
Trump.
(06:59):
And I think that's the wrong question.
I think what we have to say is
Jack Cattarelli needs to do and say
everything that's gonna help them win the election.
Because winning that election
is what's gonna help Trump the most.
So the reason I'm saying that is,
a couple days ago, I was at a
funeral. And by the way, if you're a
(07:20):
boomer like me, that's like the biggest social
event at our age. You know, that's where
you get to meet everybody.
And so I got to meet, you know,
a lot of friends who are
who are on the other side, you know,
complete hardcore Democrats.
And and, of course, the first thing they
say is, well, you don't support Trump, do
you?
And, you know, when you get get asked
(07:41):
that question,
you think you say, well, if I say,
oh, I love Trump, then you turn them
off and they're not going to listen to
another word you say.
So here's what I tried and maybe
your listeners may have a better approach, but
but this seemed to be working for me
a couple days
ago. So I said, oh, of course, you
know, do I like Trump? No. Of course
(08:02):
not. You know, I'm I'm I'm very upset
by him.
And they said, oh, good. Good.
At least I could talk to you now.
And then I would say, but you know
what?
Trump is,
doing the right thing on the three issues
that matter most for me. Actually, the four
issues. I like what he's doing on immigration
because if we didn't have Trump doing what
(08:23):
he's doing on the immigration,
we'd be as messed up as what's going
on in England and France and Ireland right
now. So I'm really happy about that. And
they say, well, I guess you're right. And
you know what? An energy that Trump,
by getting rid of the wind and getting
the nuclear plants and the, the oil and
gas going again,
that that's gonna bring down our electric bills.
(08:44):
And people go, yeah, that that's right. And
I say, no Trump on Israel. You know,
no one else is supporting,
Israel the way Trump is doing. And, of
course, there's the crime.
So once you break the ice and say,
well, you know, maybe, Trump says some stuff
I wish he didn't say, but, you know,
he's doing all the right things on the
(09:05):
issue that matter most to us. I found
I broke down that barrier and was able
to have a a reasonable discussion
with people who absolutely hate Trump. And nothing
I say or do is gonna get them
to like Trump, but I can get them,
I think, to vote for Jack Ciattarelli.
So that's what I've been doing, and I
don't know if you've been having any luck
(09:25):
with some of your hardcore Democrat friends. Yeah.
Well, no. I no. I haven't.
Well well, anyway, I don't know if they'll
they'll they'll vote for Jack Ciattarelli, but at
least I have a a fighting chance. And
and the second thing I want to bring
up is how
we have to keep a very simple message
because it's amazing how brainwashed
(09:47):
so many voters,
are, you know, have been.
Last Saturday at one of our Liberty and
Prosperity breakfast meetings,
one of our members was telling me about
an experience he had at a local restaurant.
They were talking about the high electric bills
in New Jersey,
and the waitress
chimed in, oh, yeah. Those Trump tariffs are
(10:08):
making everything go up.
So,
of course, the,
our our member didn't wanna say anything to
the waitress until after the food was served
and afterwards.
But then,
you know, our our member explains to the
waitress that, look,
tariffs are a sales tax on things you
buy from other countries.
They have absolutely nothing to do with your
(10:29):
electric bill.
Bills. And number two,
you know, governor Murphy and the Democrats
caused the high electric rates
by shutting down six power plants during the
past eight years.
And it's no secret. We saw them blow
up the power plant right there by that
big bridge on the Garden State Parkway by
Mile Post 28.
(10:49):
They blew up the smokestack, the cooling tower,
the generator,
and they also shut down the, nuclear plant
at Oyster Creek in Lacey Township.
And there's nothing wrong with nuclear power or
natural gas. They're both clean and safe.
Wind and solar don't work.
If they did work, they wouldn't have to
raise the rates of everybody else every time
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they build a new wind turbine or or
solar panel. They would pay for
themselves. So because we shut down six power
plants, we're not making enough electricity.
We're buying very expensive electricity from out of
state and even Canada.
And Jack Ciattarelli would reopen,
rebuild and replace those six power plants. That's
the only way to bring down electric rates.
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And what will the Democrats do? Well, they'll
keep paying a fortune for the electricity,
but they'll just give some, some temporary discounts
of a couple $100
to to, like, you know, lower income Democrat
voters and raise rates for everybody else.
So so we have to get back to
those very, very simple issues.
And, and I think that's the way to
(11:52):
do it. And we'll see if, if if
the rest of the group at the breakfast
discussion of liberty and prosperity agrees with that.
Good luck with that.
And and by the way, just like we're
talking about, basic issues and basic facts on
on electricity,
on basic eighth grade science,
I noticed that when people talk about what's
(12:14):
going on with Israel and Gaza,
there's some basic facts that people
just don't know, and nobody's talking about it.
And I'd like to spend a couple minutes
on that now.
And and the most basic thing is how
did Jews from Europe
get to Israel?
Because the whole narrative
in our colleges and with the left wing
(12:35):
media is that, you know, the Jews in
Israel are settler colonial
and and they persecuted the Arabs in in,
Israel
and Palestine just like the Americans
persecuted the Indians here. We're we're a settler
colonial apartheid state and totally evil.
So I just want to talk, some basic
facts about Israel.
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Jews got to Israel in three ways.
First, you have a lot of Jews
never left.
It was a Jewish country in the days
of the Bible. The Romans came. The Arabs
came. The Crusaders came. The Turks came.
And drove a lot of Jews out of
the country, but many stayed. And and so
a lot of Jews were just indigent as
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indigenous as anybody else.
Number two, another group of Jews came
in my grandmother's day during the eighteen eighties,
eighteen nineties, early nineteen hundreds.
And how did they get to Israel? Of
course, it was Palestine then.
Well, they Jews around the world donated money
to buy land in what was in Palestine.
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And what kind of land did we buy?
Well, we paid top dollar
for worthless malaria swamps,
empty sand dunes and desert.
And then we drained the swamps, watered the
desert, built the cities, and created a whole
bunch of high paying jobs.
And what happened then? Then Arabs from all
(14:01):
over the Middle East started moving into Palestine.
So between 1880
and 1930,
you had more Arabs moved into Palestine
than Jews moved into Palestine.
And if you don't take my word for
it,
when you had Arab riots in Palestine in
1936,
the British appointed this,
(14:22):
commission called the Peel Commission, p e e
l. And in 1936,
they gave a report that said exactly that.
So,
you know, you could Google that appeal commission.
You could look it up on our liberty
and prosperity website.
And so so basically, the Jews got there
by buying
paying top dollar for worthless land from Turks
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and Arabs who did not want to live
there.
And they didn't want to live there until
the Jews made it a paradise and then
suddenly,
they say, oh, you stole our land. We
we we, you know, get out. We want
it. And that's
sounds very familiar.
And and then there's a third group of
Jews that came,
to Israel and they're,
Jews from Arab countries.
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As soon as Israel was created in 1948,
all the surrounding Arab countries kicked out about
600,000
Jews, and the Jews went to Israel.
And, and so some Arabs also left,
you know,
Palestine or Israel.
And what should have happened is what happened
in India.
You had a Hindu India, you had a
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Muslim Pakistan.
So all the Muslims from,
from India moved to Pakistan, all the Hindus
from Pakistan moved to to India. You had
a whole lot of that going on after
World War two.
But only with the Jews, fifty years later
or eighty years later, you still have people
who are refugees saying we're still refugees.
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So that's that's part of the problem.
Now now the other part of the problem,
and this is a real, you know,
sort of agonizing and difficult issue,
but that's going on with Gaza.
You're watching TV,
and suddenly you watch a commercial from a
charity called Save the Children.
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And and you'll see these poor hungry children,
and and Americans
are so generous. We give so much money
to pay to feed those children.
But the big picture is why are they
hungry?
Well, most of those hungry children come from
cultures
that are either,
Muslim where they believe will have five, ten
(16:29):
children each and we're gonna take over the
world and the infidels are gonna support the
children.
And then those those children when they grow
up, they come to they go to Europe,
they go to America,
and they demand that, that they they take
over.
And others come from cultures
where a married woman
will will have sex with a man for
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a few dollars
to go shopping.
So the women in those countries have 10
children that they can't support.
And as long as we,
rich Americans and rich Europeans pay for this,
that culture is never gonna change.
And so we're overwhelmed with all these so
called migrants.
Well, Israel has the same thing in Gaza.
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Every Gaza family, the Arabs are having five
to 10 children.
No intention of supporting them.
Half the population of Gaza Gaza is 15
years old.
The Arab population doubles every ten years.
And the only way they could afford to
pay for this is to have, you know,
Americans and Europeans,
(17:32):
paying billions of dollars of aid to support
them. And at some point, we're gonna have
to deal with that.
But,
not not today, but it's something we have
to think about.
Boy, you you give us a lot to
think about.
And and and and I'll just close with
one other thing that's coming up, and that's,
you know, another big lie, a big basic
(17:54):
lie. They always talk about the extreme left
and the extreme right
where they put the communist on the extreme
left, and they put the Nazis on the
extreme right. And they say, well, Trump is
extreme right, so he must be a Nazi.
And and that is that whole concept,
is a big lie. And when I used
to teach at the community college, I would
tell that to my students
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that, you know, Nazis are socialist. They're national
socialist. They're no different from communist.
The communist and the national socialist all believe
that you have most people don't have enough.
There's a handful of people have too much,
and all you have to do is kill
the people who have too much and steal
their stuff and give it to the people
(18:35):
who don't have enough. So whether you're talking
about the bourgeoisie
or the rich landowners or the millionaires and
billionaires or the Jews, it's all that same
philosophy
of, the greed. And again, there's no difference
between the Nazis
and the communist. And and to say that
one's on the left and so one's on
the right is just a big propaganda lie,
(18:57):
one of many we deal with. Anyway,
so, thank you very much for letting me
duck out after twenty minutes and not have
to sit around for for three hours.
And, I hope you're you're healthy and and
and you know it. You got a second
set of car keys now, and everything's gonna
be fine. So thank you very much. Thank
you, Seth. Seth Grossman. Liberty and Prosperity.
(19:18):
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I'm John DeMasi. Good to have you with
us and good to be back. And, thanks
many thanks
to, Seth Grossman for filling in for me
and doing a great job. And, now you're
happy to be back doing twenty minutes instead
of three hours. Right, Seth?
Absolutely. Much more enjoyable.
So,
let me just give a a quick rundown
(00:21):
on on what libertyandprosperity.com
has been doing lately. Of course, we meet
every Saturday morning from 09:30 to 10:30
at Sal's Coal Fired Pizza in Somers Point.
And all the stuff that I want to
talk about but never get to post at
libertyandpress30.com.
Everybody is invited to get a free email
update
(00:41):
by either
emailing us at info,INFO,@libertyandprosperity.com.
And if you like what we're doing,
please send us a check or
donate so we can stay
at the John DeMasi program,
because we we I we really enjoy this
partnership that we have.
Before I I talk about Trump, I just
(01:02):
wanna thank everybody for the support they gave
us
on our Richard Summers
event,
on Thursday, September 4. Because the Richard Summers
story is important
on a lot of levels.
It tells good things about
traditional America.
It tells the truth about bad things about
our enemies.
(01:23):
And if you see what the public schools
are doing, the colleges are doing, the,
the media, the Hollywood,
pop culture,
any story
that makes America look good,
is never sees the light of day.
And any story that tells the truth about
enemies who are trying to destroy America
never see the light of day. So that's
(01:43):
why the Richard Sommer story was so important.
And I wanna really thank Harry Hurley for
allowing me to showcase
that story on the Wednesday program. And if
anyone wants to hear it, I'm sure there's
a a way to go to the, the
WPG Talk Radio website,
and get the podcast.
But I also wanna thank you know, we
always complain about the media,
(02:05):
but the local media
has been fantastic
on this issue.
We have a publication here called Sure Local,
where you you get it for free. It's
distributed at almost all the
the local food stores.
And and they showcased the the, Richard Summer
story in a way that I recommended everybody
listening
(02:25):
pick up the September 4 edition of,
Shore Local and and put it on your
coffee table, share it with your kids, share
it with your, you know, your, your democratic
friends because it'll it really tells a powerful
story.
And also the Ocean City Sentinel
did a whole piece in its August 27
edition, and the reporter came. The reporter,
(02:48):
said he's going to do another story,
next Wednesday. So check your local media. And,
of course, it's posted at libertyandflash30.com.
Yeah. You you you got a lot of
mileage out of that.
And and it and it should because at
remember, at one time, every school child knew
who Richard Summers was
and and why he was important, but it's
(03:09):
on on so many levels.
You know you know the other thing, he
was a young guy,
wasn't he? Right. Not only
right. Right. That's the other element that no
one wants to mention,
that at the age of 24
actually, 23,
they not only gave him a warship at
age 23,
it was his job to turn a merchant
(03:30):
ship into a warship.
And then he sells it from, from Baltimore
to, to Spain. You know, no radio, no
modern navigation, commanding a crew of a 103
people,
at the age of of 23,
and all the sea captains were that age.
And the reason that that America, young Americans,
(03:51):
were,
were such leaders at such a young age
is it used to be an eighth grade
education was a compliment.
Because when you finished
eight grades of American education, you were better
educated than most college graduates today,
at at age 16. And you also learned
a trade. So we we have to find
out. It seems that the more money we're
(04:12):
spending on education,
the less educated Americans have gotten. So that's
I I think that's another reason why the
Richard Summer story is not popular
with our union public school teachers. But there
there there are just many, many angles to
it.
But but anyway, let me let me talk
about about, Donald Trump. And and I never
know if I'm speaking for the group or
not because a lot of times I'll go
(04:34):
in and and I'll say, well, what did
you say that for? You you when next
week, you apologize for it. But but but
but here's the way I see see it.
Most of us listening right now, we agree
with what Donald Trump is doing
and and what he's saying, and we want
him to be strong.
But,
you know, I had a sailboat
(04:54):
for many years.
And to me, politics is like being in
a sailboat.
When you're in a motorboat,
you you know where you wanna go. You
point the boat where you wanna go, and
you get there.
But in a sailboat, if you point your
boat where you wanna go, you'll never get
there because the wind and the current will
push you in a completely different direction.
(05:15):
So if you wanna get somewhere in a
sailboat, you have to adjust for the wind
and the tide, and you have to zigzag
to get to where you wanna go.
And and politics is the same way.
You can't win an election with the people
who agree with you on everything. There just
aren't enough of us. We have to get
a whole bunch of people who disagree with
(05:35):
us
on most issues
and and get them to to vote for
our candidate.
So so how do you make Trump strong?
In my opinion, you don't make Trump strong
by saying how much you love Trump and
expect every Republican to say, I love Trump
all the time.
The way to make Trump strong is there
(05:55):
are two elections less than two months away.
You have the governor of New Jersey,
Jack Ciattarelli is the Republican running against the
Democrat,
and you have a
Republican in Virginia
running against the Democrat.
Now if Republicans
win those two elections,
Trump will be very, very strong.
(06:17):
But if he loses those elections,
they'll blame regardless of of the candidate, they're
gonna blame Trump for losing those elections
and will make,
Trump weak.
So for Trump to be strong, in my
personal opinion, I don't know if the rest
of the group agrees yet,
Jack Ciattarelli needs to win this election.
So that's why I I don't wanna spend
(06:39):
a lot of time talking about what's going
on in Chicago.
I don't wanna talk a lot about what's
happening in New York. I wanna talk about
how we can persuade people
to vote for Jack Ciattarelli here in New
Jersey.
So,
a lot of times people say, well, well,
Jack Ciattarelli is not doing enough to support
Trump.
(06:59):
And I think that's the wrong question.
I think what we have to say is
Jack Cattarelli needs to do and say
everything that's gonna help them win the election.
Because winning that election
is what's gonna help Trump the most.
So the reason I'm saying that is,
a couple days ago, I was at a
funeral. And by the way, if you're a
(07:20):
boomer like me, that's like the biggest social
event at our age. You know, that's where
you get to meet everybody.
And so I got to meet, you know,
a lot of friends who are
who are on the other side, you know,
complete hardcore Democrats.
And and, of course, the first thing they
say is, well, you don't support Trump, do
you?
And, you know, when you get get asked
(07:41):
that question,
you think you say, well, if I say,
oh, I love Trump, then you turn them
off and they're not going to listen to
another word you say.
So here's what I tried and maybe
your listeners may have a better approach, but
but this seemed to be working for me
a couple days
ago. So I said, oh, of course, you
know, do I like Trump? No. Of course
(08:02):
not. You know, I'm I'm I'm very upset
by him.
And they said, oh, good. Good.
At least I could talk to you now.
And then I would say, but you know
what?
Trump is,
doing the right thing on the three issues
that matter most for me. Actually, the four
issues. I like what he's doing on immigration
because if we didn't have Trump doing what
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he's doing on the immigration,
we'd be as messed up as what's going
on in England and France and Ireland right
now. So I'm really happy about that. And
they say, well, I guess you're right. And
you know what? An energy that Trump,
by getting rid of the wind and getting
the nuclear plants and the, the oil and
gas going again,
that that's gonna bring down our electric bills.
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And people go, yeah, that that's right. And
I say, no Trump on Israel. You know,
no one else is supporting,
Israel the way Trump is doing. And, of
course, there's the crime.
So once you break the ice and say,
well, you know, maybe, Trump says some stuff
I wish he didn't say, but, you know,
he's doing all the right things on the
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issue that matter most to us. I found
I broke down that barrier and was able
to have a a reasonable discussion
with people who absolutely hate Trump. And nothing
I say or do is gonna get them
to like Trump, but I can get them,
I think, to vote for Jack Ciattarelli.
So that's what I've been doing, and I
don't know if you've been having any luck
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with some of your hardcore Democrat friends. Yeah.
Well, no. I no. I haven't.
Well well, anyway, I don't know if they'll
they'll they'll vote for Jack Ciattarelli, but at
least I have a a fighting chance. And
and the second thing I want to bring
up is how
we have to keep a very simple message
because it's amazing how brainwashed
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so many voters,
are, you know, have been.
Last Saturday at one of our Liberty and
Prosperity breakfast meetings,
one of our members was telling me about
an experience he had at a local restaurant.
They were talking about the high electric bills
in New Jersey,
and the waitress
chimed in, oh, yeah. Those Trump tariffs are
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making everything go up.
So,
of course, the,
our our member didn't wanna say anything to
the waitress until after the food was served
and afterwards.
But then,
you know, our our member explains to the
waitress that, look,
tariffs are a sales tax on things you
buy from other countries.
They have absolutely nothing to do with your
(10:29):
electric bill.
Bills. And number two,
you know, governor Murphy and the Democrats
caused the high electric rates
by shutting down six power plants during the
past eight years.
And it's no secret. We saw them blow
up the power plant right there by that
big bridge on the Garden State Parkway by
Mile Post 28.
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They blew up the smokestack, the cooling tower,
the generator,
and they also shut down the, nuclear plant
at Oyster Creek in Lacey Township.
And there's nothing wrong with nuclear power or
natural gas. They're both clean and safe.
Wind and solar don't work.
If they did work, they wouldn't have to
raise the rates of everybody else every time
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they build a new wind turbine or or
solar panel. They would pay for
themselves. So because we shut down six power
plants, we're not making enough electricity.
We're buying very expensive electricity from out of
state and even Canada.
And Jack Ciattarelli would reopen,
rebuild and replace those six power plants. That's
the only way to bring down electric rates.
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And what will the Democrats do? Well, they'll
keep paying a fortune for the electricity,
but they'll just give some, some temporary discounts
of a couple $100
to to, like, you know, lower income Democrat
voters and raise rates for everybody else.
So so we have to get back to
those very, very simple issues.
And, and I think that's the way to
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do it. And we'll see if, if if
the rest of the group at the breakfast
discussion of liberty and prosperity agrees with that.
Good luck with that.
And and by the way, just like we're
talking about, basic issues and basic facts on
on electricity,
on basic eighth grade science,
I noticed that when people talk about what's
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going on with Israel and Gaza,
there's some basic facts that people
just don't know, and nobody's talking about it.
And I'd like to spend a couple minutes
on that now.
And and the most basic thing is how
did Jews from Europe
get to Israel?
Because the whole narrative
in our colleges and with the left wing
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media is that, you know, the Jews in
Israel are settler colonial
and and they persecuted the Arabs in in,
Israel
and Palestine just like the Americans
persecuted the Indians here. We're we're a settler
colonial apartheid state and totally evil.
So I just want to talk, some basic
facts about Israel.
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Jews got to Israel in three ways.
First, you have a lot of Jews
never left.
It was a Jewish country in the days
of the Bible. The Romans came. The Arabs
came. The Crusaders came. The Turks came.
And drove a lot of Jews out of
the country, but many stayed. And and so
a lot of Jews were just indigent as
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indigenous as anybody else.
Number two, another group of Jews came
in my grandmother's day during the eighteen eighties,
eighteen nineties, early nineteen hundreds.
And how did they get to Israel? Of
course, it was Palestine then.
Well, they Jews around the world donated money
to buy land in what was in Palestine.
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And what kind of land did we buy?
Well, we paid top dollar
for worthless malaria swamps,
empty sand dunes and desert.
And then we drained the swamps, watered the
desert, built the cities, and created a whole
bunch of high paying jobs.
And what happened then? Then Arabs from all
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over the Middle East started moving into Palestine.
So between 1880
and 1930,
you had more Arabs moved into Palestine
than Jews moved into Palestine.
And if you don't take my word for
it,
when you had Arab riots in Palestine in
1936,
the British appointed this,
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commission called the Peel Commission, p e e
l. And in 1936,
they gave a report that said exactly that.
So,
you know, you could Google that appeal commission.
You could look it up on our liberty
and prosperity website.
And so so basically, the Jews got there
by buying
paying top dollar for worthless land from Turks
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and Arabs who did not want to live
there.
And they didn't want to live there until
the Jews made it a paradise and then
suddenly,
they say, oh, you stole our land. We
we we, you know, get out. We want
it. And that's
sounds very familiar.
And and then there's a third group of
Jews that came,
to Israel and they're,
Jews from Arab countries.
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As soon as Israel was created in 1948,
all the surrounding Arab countries kicked out about
600,000
Jews, and the Jews went to Israel.
And, and so some Arabs also left,
you know,
Palestine or Israel.
And what should have happened is what happened
in India.
You had a Hindu India, you had a
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Muslim Pakistan.
So all the Muslims from,
from India moved to Pakistan, all the Hindus
from Pakistan moved to to India. You had
a whole lot of that going on after
World War two.
But only with the Jews, fifty years later
or eighty years later, you still have people
who are refugees saying we're still refugees.
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So that's that's part of the problem.
Now now the other part of the problem,
and this is a real, you know,
sort of agonizing and difficult issue,
but that's going on with Gaza.
You're watching TV,
and suddenly you watch a commercial from a
charity called Save the Children.
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And and you'll see these poor hungry children,
and and Americans
are so generous. We give so much money
to pay to feed those children.
But the big picture is why are they
hungry?
Well, most of those hungry children come from
cultures
that are either,
Muslim where they believe will have five, ten
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children each and we're gonna take over the
world and the infidels are gonna support the
children.
And then those those children when they grow
up, they come to they go to Europe,
they go to America,
and they demand that, that they they take
over.
And others come from cultures
where a married woman
will will have sex with a man for
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a few dollars
to go shopping.
So the women in those countries have 10
children that they can't support.
And as long as we,
rich Americans and rich Europeans pay for this,
that culture is never gonna change.
And so we're overwhelmed with all these so
called migrants.
Well, Israel has the same thing in Gaza.
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Every Gaza family, the Arabs are having five
to 10 children.
No intention of supporting them.
Half the population of Gaza Gaza is 15
years old.
The Arab population doubles every ten years.
And the only way they could afford to
pay for this is to have, you know,
Americans and Europeans,
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paying billions of dollars of aid to support
them. And at some point, we're gonna have
to deal with that.
But,
not not today, but it's something we have
to think about.
Boy, you you give us a lot to
think about.
And and and and I'll just close with
one other thing that's coming up, and that's,
you know, another big lie, a big basic
(17:54):
lie. They always talk about the extreme left
and the extreme right
where they put the communist on the extreme
left, and they put the Nazis on the
extreme right. And they say, well, Trump is
extreme right, so he must be a Nazi.
And and that is that whole concept,
is a big lie. And when I used
to teach at the community college, I would
tell that to my students
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that, you know, Nazis are socialist. They're national
socialist. They're no different from communist.
The communist and the national socialist all believe
that you have most people don't have enough.
There's a handful of people have too much,
and all you have to do is kill
the people who have too much and steal
their stuff and give it to the people
(18:35):
who don't have enough. So whether you're talking
about the bourgeoisie
or the rich landowners or the millionaires and
billionaires or the Jews, it's all that same
philosophy
of, the greed. And again, there's no difference
between the Nazis
and the communist. And and to say that
one's on the left and so one's on
the right is just a big propaganda lie,
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one of many we deal with. Anyway,
so, thank you very much for letting me
duck out after twenty minutes and not have
to sit around for for three hours.
And, I hope you're you're healthy and and
and you know it. You got a second
set of car keys now, and everything's gonna
be fine. So thank you very much. Thank
you, Seth. Seth Grossman. Liberty and Prosperity.
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The website libertyandprosperity.com.
The meeting starts right now at Sal's Coal
Fire Pizza on Groveland Avenue in Somers Point.
Liberty and prosperity. I'm John DeMasi. It is
Talk with a Purpose every Saturday, nine till
noon, WPG Talk Radio ninety five point five.
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