February 3, 2025 • 24 mins
Get ready for Steph to drop a bombshell in this episode, that is all we're saying for now.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello there, welcome along to Life as we Know It Now.
This is a podcast where you have three ladies from
three different generations sharing our life experiences. Myself Tony Tanalia
in my fifties, Lisa Cameron in her forties, and step
Zarakas in her thirties. All right, get ready for this episode.
A bombshell is going to drop before we get to it, though,
(00:23):
as usual, we'd love to take you behind the scenes.
Just before we got started recording, Lisa was having a
few problems with her headphones.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hi, let's go, come on.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
All right, Life as we Know It? People? Sit there
was Wow, this is I lound for a change. I
still love you, steff I drums out, this is up.
This is up.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Mega for me.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Went, but I'm turning. Maybe you've got the wrong hang on,
see where you you know what, Lisa, I've got the
wrong so no, no, no, you've got the right microphone.
So see how your that? Have a look what your
headphones are plugged in? Turning the video on the wrong
freaking connection. That's why it's not working. This is a
(01:15):
great start. Oh my god, you're right now. Now she's
probably turned in town. She won't be able to hear.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I was just putting it in the wrong hole.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I didn't go on there. I'm going there, all right.
So can you hear now? Yes? Yes, yeah, I can yeah,
yeah yeah. Can you hear yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I can hear, yes, yes, can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I was actually gonna try mouth and not say anything.
All right? All right, so are we ready? I'm ready.
This is I'm going to say something different. This is
life as we know it that is about to change
twenty five bringing on changes. So okay, ladies, it's been
(02:06):
a little while since we've all caught up and had
a bit of a chat together. We had Christmas, New Year, holidays,
that sort of stuff. Anything happened in that time that
we need to talk about.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Ah, you put me on the spot now to do
later that that question made me think did I do
anything that I need to or anything like that? And
I'm like, no, I know, I haven't met anyone, nothing
like that.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Oh really, No, Why are you surprised because you're always
out meeting people and.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
It's not like meeting guys. No, right, No, I haven't
been with any now for nearly a year. No, I.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Haven't met anybody either, just quiet like it's about ten
years or more.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
It's been a nice ye of just having time to
myself and being with friends and family.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
So yeah, gu I've had a huge shift, though, have
you Have you noticed the energy shift it? Yeah, totally,
it hasn't it totally.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
You're like, really, you've always been like energetic, but I
just feel like there's a real vibrancy to your.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
But all of us in general, I just feel like,
and I was looking at the fact that twenty twenty
five is a nine year, right, if you get into numerology,
twenty twenty five is a nine I want to talk
about that at some stage because I've got some stuff
that I want to share. But we can get to that. Yeah, yeah,
it's gonna be yeah stuff because it's going to affect you.
(03:30):
But I just feel like the energy. Maybe it's just
me feeling like this, but I just I just feel
like the energy has shifted, you know how. I spent
a lot of time talking about menopause and the whole
appendicitis stuff, and I feel like I've shedded all that now. Yeah,
and I'm not experiencing menopause symptoms. Wow, I know I
(03:56):
still get now is at night, I still get warm
and I throw the blankets off. The cats go, what
the fuck are you doing? You just throwing blankets on me?
But like, I've even stopped taking the stuff that I
was taking form menopause, So I'm literally now just taking
magnesium and vitamin D and those sort of things that
the doctors recommend to take as you get older anyway,
(04:16):
But I feel there's been a major shift in that respect.
And Lisa, you talked about RTT, like the hypnotherapy sessions. Yep, right,
I've had one of those done, So I feel like
that's helped shift energy within me. I just feel like
I'm back to myself.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah, yeah, you can tell Yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Can tell me.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
And that's what I was saying, Like there's a real
vibrancy to your energy. You just it's like you've like
cleansed and you know what I mean, all your shit's gone.
I know it's God, But you know how you're saying
everything feels different twenty twenty five is because you Your
energy is different. So you will have that experience now, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
There's a shift in your energy. Yeah, there is major
change coming up. Yeah yeah you want to Is that
not something to do with that?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
No?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Well, no, that that piece of paper in front of
me that talks about twenty twenty five being a nine year,
there's just no well, yes, no, okay, I get around
and this is just what I wanted to do at
some stage was talk about the fact that twenty twenty
five was a nine year and what that means ye.
What does the number nine ye mean? Yep? Numerologically yeah,
make up words, new energy, what that sort of means
(05:37):
for twenty twenty five and the changes coming for twenty
twenty five. So yeah, yeah, so we'll get to that, Okay,
I'm eager.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, I think, yeah, major changes. I think the end
of twenty twenty four was pretty heavy for me. I
was going through a lot of stuff and I feel
like the universe just threw me in to a space
where I just needed to have very unfiltered, raw conversations.
(06:07):
And my biggest learning is that it doesn't matter how
it's taken, it just you need to speak your truth
no matter what. And I feel like over the years,
just growing up in the entertainment space, I've always been
a real people pleaser, so I've been really careful and
very filtered about how I deliver information. And that's and
(06:27):
the way I do so is very aroundabouts. It's never
between the eyeballs. So I feel like I've really been
put into situations where I've had to have very black
and white yeah conversations.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I've seen major changes in you from twelve months ago
to now, just how as a person like you know,
very sanguine to start with, Yes, but your personality traits
like you And I've always said this to you too.
You like a bit of cleric in there. If you
notice this lace clerics taken over the Seine. Yeah, the
saone's still there. The shift has gone from sanguine coleric
(07:02):
tochleric sanguin.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yes, have I gotten more now?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
You're just chugmatic. There's in your body, Lisa, And I
say that with love.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I do this, you do please go on, just just
do it for me.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
It's just been less about making people feel happy and
that happy vibe, more so taking control and saying, you
know what, this is my truth. And I think that
being a sanguine, and that's part of why I feel
like I have disappointed people because I've been too sanguine.
I've been too uppity.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
And who do you think you've disappointed? I don't think
you've disappointed people.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
No, not disappointed, but more so more words and no
actions type of thinking, let's do this.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
And this, and then I can't commit to it.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Just lack of following through and committing to stuff. That's
been my biggest thing all my life. But I think
this time I have instead of running away from situations,
I've actually had to confront it through the eyeballs. And
it's been really, really scary because I've always wanted to
please everybody, and oh my gosh, I feel bad. But
(08:14):
I've just had to stay in my truth and no
matter what that looks like, it is what it is.
So I think I've come into this year in particular
just realizing that, Okay, this is where I am in
life right now, this is my role, this is what
I see for myself, and just to see it super clear.
Even though life throws you lots of changes, I think
(08:35):
giving myself a lot more stability instead of the sanguine
part has given me a lot more clarity and peace.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah. I actually noticed that, and least you probably did
two that when we all came into the room to
get or you were in the room before we got
here because were out looking for food and they're all gone,
so we just took a box of pies instead. As
we walked in, there was like a different, different aura
(09:06):
around here. Did you say that too? I just felt
like more like boss women.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, but it's more like just you know this, this
is me and I'm in charge of my life.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
And hang on, did you just call her a boss woman? Yeah?
Hang on, that's doesn't that me given?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
You can be that as well? Definitely, but definitely mean
to interrupt. Well, no, we did, but taking charge of
her life. But you're right, it is peaceful.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
It's just like.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
This is me and this is what I want to do,
and yeah, I'm going forward with that.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
And that's just what I what I feel now and
I think, And I was saying to on the phone
the other day to you Tea that most of my
life I feel like I have defined myself upon what
I do, what my role is.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yes, and we discussed this because I was I've said
to you the same thing that if I left radio tomorrow,
who would I be? Would anyone care about me or
anyone gives a shit about me? Because this happened to
me years ago? And no, I don't means interrupted, No, No,
that's great. When I was made redundant from my job
years ago and I was out of radio, I lost
all self, all sense of self. I was like, I'm
(10:13):
nobody now and nobody cares about me, and that I
don't mean anything. So I totally when you said that,
I was like, I one, totally understand what you're talking about,
because you know, and even today I have six times
when I go if I'm not in radio anymore, who
am I? Yeah? Right, Like you said, we define ourselves
(10:33):
by what we've been.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Doing exactly, and I feel like that's been me for
so long, in this little bubble of I must be
doing more so I can be seen as more. So
I think that all these conversations and these shifts have
made me realize it's actually not about what I'm doing,
and it's actually not about what I'm doing or what
I'm not doing. It's just about who I decide to
(10:56):
appear as and that's it at the end of the day,
and not being so entertainer like like wanting a round
of applause at the end of everything. Just understanding that
even through some of these conversations, I think I've developed
maybe some enemies maybe some people who just don't like me,
or maybe never did.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
How does that make you feel? Having been a sanguine,
full on sanguine for so long, who wants everybody to
like you, how does that made you feel? Now?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Oh, it's been a struggle going up and down thinking oh,
maybe I should do this, And now I've come into
this year going you know what, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, yeah, don't give a shit.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I don't care because you're not going to be everybody's
cup of tea at the end of the day, and
I need to just focus on who loves me and
I love them, and that's it. Why bother, Because it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Matter what you do. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
If I roll out a red carpet or I tell
you lovely things. If somebody has decided in their mind
that they don't like you, that's that's unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
That's it. Yeah, that's it. That's it.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
But there's a lot of people that you'll like, celebrities
for example, that you'll say this person somebody I don't
like them, I don't like straight away.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
They don't even know them.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
So if they're making these remarks about these celebrities, they
don't even know what the hell hope do we have? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Seriously, it's true now thirty five, since she's heading into
that food, getting.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Software upgrade is nearly there. Yes, forty yeah, wow, yeah
you do.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
You get to that that switch and you just go,
what was I thinking? Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
And it's just this time wasting mentality that I feel.
Not that I had that for a reason, but it's
just been so time wasting and consuming of me because
I've been thinking about how do I please X?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
How do I do this? How do I.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Control the situation? But you just you just can't feel
like if people are going to talk about you, they're just.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Going to do that. What you do does? You can
only control what you do and how you feel. That's it.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
That's exactly right. I think I've I think I'm still
I'm still working through that.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I'm not one hundred percent there. We a few more
years to get fortytware is happening, But you do.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Find that people actually are talking about you less than
what you actually think.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
It's you that's playing it in your mind. And if
you were to ask that person, they'd be like, mate,
I thought didn't think that about six months ago.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I haven't thought about it.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
It's correct because they're thinking about other people that are
thinking about them, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Right, So it's this vicious cycle exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
So you just can't control it. It's just such a
waste of thought space.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
And we don't live that long as well.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
It's you know, I don't want to get to more
bed but lately I've been having a lot of mist conversations.
So yeah, so there's just a lot of shifts and
I think I've just had to make some very big
decisions in life, don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
And sorry, because we know it.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
We I mean, this isn't a surprise conversation. We've already
had this conversation. Imagine if I was surprising you now,
you'd be like, what.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
The hell is God?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
So, no, we we've had a previous conversation, but this
actual chat was more spontaneous because I was going to
do something separately and I thought I'd just come on
and do it instead because this is how we started. Yes,
so yes, I've decided that I'm stepping back from the
(14:34):
podcast and.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, no, no, no, can you too? Stop? No, like,
don't want to cry.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
You know, And I just this podcast is going to
be something big, and I want you guys to be
able to take this to the moon and back. And
that's what this podcast just actually deserves because we.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Started it with that intention.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
So you know, for you not to do that, you
would be doing a disservice to the podcast and then
obviously to me, who was with you to start. And
I think that you guys need to take this somewhere,
somewhere big, somewhere different, and it's just not somewhere that
I can take it at the moment because I have
a little one year old and my priorities are that
(15:28):
I need to be there for her fully, and I
just want to immerse myself in this new life and
this mum life and just close the door on the
entertainment space, if you will, for now, for whatever is
in the future, I just really want to focus on
(15:49):
my daughter. She's getting more of a not a handful,
but she's becoming more and more energy.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
That's like a little person like she's always been a
little person, but there's more personality there now, correct exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
And if I look at the next you know, three
to five years or three years.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
You know, there may be more kids. I mean, i'd
love more at this boy. Yeah, well today years I
really thought about it.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
It was it was, you know, I would be naturally
stepping further and further away. So, you know, with where
this is going and the momentum that it's hitting and
the fabulous guests that you're having on you need to
keep on this trajectory and you need to do it
without me, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
So it's like thank you, but also it's like a bittersweet.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. It's funny because, like
you said, we did have this conversation before Christmas, and
we have taken a break in the past, and when
we took that first break, I think we're all ready
for it because we've been doing the podcast for a
couple of years now. Lisa and I had the feeling
that you were getting to the point where you were
(16:59):
going to go, I need to step away because we
could see, Yeah, a lot going on in your life
with Demi, with Nick, with his family, with friends, with
you know, your business. I mean, that's a lot to
take on, and so we could see that you were
getting to that point where you were, you know, looking
at possibly stepping back. So when you actually dropped the
bomb on us before Christmas, even though I knew in
(17:22):
the back of my mind that was coming. I felt
like it was a death. And I know that sounds
like a weird thing to say, and I think because
we weren't all on the same page. And I just
and I said to Lisa, I said, I have literally
spent weeks feeling guilty about trying to move forward and
(17:42):
planning how we're going to go forward with this, you know,
looking at new artwork, looking at a new description for
the podcast, like couldn't.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Even really talk about nothing was.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
No we caught up to have a chat about it.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Admittedly I was doing breakfast that week as well, so
getting up four o'clock in the morning didn't help because
I'd come home in the afternoon and Nana nap time
just kicked in. But I just, yeah, I just felt
like I felt guilty moving forward. And then the penny
dropped for me, or not even the penny. It was
like the what was the phrase that I use? It
(18:16):
was like the permission granted was handed When the other
night you shared a video with us and it was
you playing with Demi and I said to you, hey,
you're happy to put this up on our page, and
you said no, this is just for you guys, And
that for me was the permission I needed to move forward.
That for me was Stef saying I'm not here anymore
(18:38):
or I'm not part of this anymore. This is your baby,
And so it's true. From then, I've gone gangbusters. We've
locked in all these guests so good. We're going to
miss out on the lot of it. Hey, but there's
a great podcast you'll be able to listen to Steph
called Life as We Know It when worked at the
rest of it. Yet you'll be able to hear all
the guests that we've got coming on. But yeah, I
(19:00):
honest to God, like I felt like I just didn't
know how to move forward. Yeah, and then Lisa, you
you're more like that now or not so much, not
that you don't know how to move forward, but it's
like this talking about this now is what's affecting you.
I just felt.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Flat today and I was talking to my sister and
you know, I said, we're coming into record and I said,
but I feel really flat and she said why because
like it's our last one with Steph. And I just
felt emotional about it.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
But it's like, like.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I'm so happy for what's to come. And I totally
understand where you are because I would be like you
and I had my kids, you know, when they were young,
that was it for all I wanted to be was
a mom. Yeah. I'm still like that now, Like I
just that's my favorite thing ever, being a mum. Yeah.
So I just feel flat, like I feel excited, but
(19:54):
there's just that flatness.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
It's just sadness. It's sadness. I think it's more sadness.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
It's it, but it's just this sort of flat feeling.
And but what's usually underneath that flat feeling is just
a sadness, you know, where you're just like, Okay, I'm
going this way and that's good. But I'm still you know,
feel about Yeah, but I do. But I honestly, I
feel just so happy for you with what's you know,
(20:24):
where you are in your life and what's coming in
your life. And you know, I'm quite I am. I'm
very traditional and I love that. You know, he's just
seeing you working with your husband and building businesses together
and just being a family, and I think that's such
a beautiful thing. You know that you are giving your
time and energy to growing your family together, your young family,
(20:46):
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, it's been like it's such a good feeling to
be able to focus on that. Like I've never focused
on family ever, have been, you know, even when we
got married and I was still like, I can't explain it.
I've missed out on so many Easters and Christmases. I
(21:08):
was always half there. It was always more defined on
what I did that gave me a lot more joy.
And yeah, I just I think I've put a lot
of that on the back burner at the time that
I guess I should have, you know, in my twenties,
And but I think now now that I have my family,
I just don't want to miss out on that chance
to be there.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I just I really want to own.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
This part of life and just be there fully. And yeah,
it's just it's it's it's a it's a it's a
I'm sad to be here to you, to be honest,
because I was emotional in the car. It's it's sad
not knowing, you know, when will I ever be back,
or like, when will I ever see this room again.
(21:51):
I'll see the microphone in the same way. But but
I think I think that the like internally, like the
door even when I sent you that message, it was
like the door is shut on that it's just gone.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah. Yeah, But I think that we all needed to
see that message with you saying no, I don't want
you to share this, yeah, because I felt like that
was significant for all of us, you know, like I said,
for me, it meant yep. I can move forward. Now,
I can start planning. You know who the guests are.
You know, we can start talking about what our color
(22:26):
scheme is now going to be, what are we changing?
You know what I mean. I just I just felt
like I felt guilty moving forward with that stuff because
for so long it's been the three of us.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
You know what I'm just thinking now, what make you cry?
I'm thinking about when we get to the end of
recording this and we go is that it are we done?
And it's like a scene from you know, the last
scene from Friends. Oh, I've got that playing in my head.
I don't want to get to that point.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I'm actually glad that you said that, because I didn't
know what you're gonna say.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
You know, there's those.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Moments in our podcast and I'm like, what what is
she gonna say? This is.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Emotional. Sorry, Yeah, I've just got that Friends, the last
episode of Friends playing in my head, go away. We're
not there yet. We still got at least another many
minutes ago. Yeah, true, it's true. Yeah, of course.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
And then you know this Sea, you know you'll have
some fabulous guests and have some great conversations.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I just I just I just know that it's going
to do so so well. Thank you. Yeah, I wanted
to tell you they're going to miss out. Yeah, all right, Well,
anybody see that coming. Look, you know, we are very
sad to see Steph go, but we do know she's
got a lot going on in her life and we
wish we wish it well and we wish all the
(23:52):
best as well. Okay, So that's it for that episode
with Steph. There is another episode coming up, all right,
So there is another farewell episode if you want to
call it that. It's on the way, So keep an
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(24:12):
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we know it, a podcast where you've had three ladies
from three different generations sharing our life experiences. Myself Tony
Tanalira in my fifties, Lisa Cammon in her forties and
for the second last time, Steph Zaharakas in her thirties.
(24:34):
Catch up with you in our next episode.
Hello there, welcome along to Life as we Know It Now.
This is a podcast where you have three ladies from
three different generations sharing our life experiences. Myself Tony Tanalia
in my fifties, Lisa Cameron in her forties, and step
Zarakas in her thirties. All right, get ready for this episode.
A bombshell is going to drop before we get to it, though,
(00:23):
as usual, we'd love to take you behind the scenes.
Just before we got started recording, Lisa was having a
few problems with her headphones.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hi, let's go, come on.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
All right, Life as we Know It? People? Sit there
was Wow, this is I lound for a change. I
still love you, steff I drums out, this is up.
This is up.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Mega for me.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Went, but I'm turning. Maybe you've got the wrong hang on,
see where you you know what, Lisa, I've got the
wrong so no, no, no, you've got the right microphone.
So see how your that? Have a look what your
headphones are plugged in? Turning the video on the wrong
freaking connection. That's why it's not working. This is a
(01:15):
great start. Oh my god, you're right now. Now she's
probably turned in town. She won't be able to hear.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I was just putting it in the wrong hole.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I didn't go on there. I'm going there, all right.
So can you hear now? Yes? Yes, yeah, I can yeah,
yeah yeah. Can you hear yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I can hear, yes, yes, can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I was actually gonna try mouth and not say anything.
All right? All right, so are we ready? I'm ready.
This is I'm going to say something different. This is
life as we know it that is about to change
twenty five bringing on changes. So okay, ladies, it's been
(02:06):
a little while since we've all caught up and had
a bit of a chat together. We had Christmas, New Year, holidays,
that sort of stuff. Anything happened in that time that
we need to talk about.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Ah, you put me on the spot now to do
later that that question made me think did I do
anything that I need to or anything like that? And
I'm like, no, I know, I haven't met anyone, nothing
like that.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Oh really, No, Why are you surprised because you're always
out meeting people and.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
It's not like meeting guys. No, right, No, I haven't
been with any now for nearly a year. No, I.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Haven't met anybody either, just quiet like it's about ten
years or more.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
It's been a nice ye of just having time to
myself and being with friends and family.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
So yeah, gu I've had a huge shift, though, have
you Have you noticed the energy shift it? Yeah, totally,
it hasn't it totally.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
You're like, really, you've always been like energetic, but I
just feel like there's a real vibrancy to your.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
But all of us in general, I just feel like,
and I was looking at the fact that twenty twenty
five is a nine year, right, if you get into numerology,
twenty twenty five is a nine I want to talk
about that at some stage because I've got some stuff
that I want to share. But we can get to that. Yeah, yeah,
it's gonna be yeah stuff because it's going to affect you.
(03:30):
But I just feel like the energy. Maybe it's just
me feeling like this, but I just I just feel
like the energy has shifted, you know how. I spent
a lot of time talking about menopause and the whole
appendicitis stuff, and I feel like I've shedded all that now. Yeah,
and I'm not experiencing menopause symptoms. Wow, I know I
(03:56):
still get now is at night, I still get warm
and I throw the blankets off. The cats go, what
the fuck are you doing? You just throwing blankets on me?
But like, I've even stopped taking the stuff that I
was taking form menopause, So I'm literally now just taking
magnesium and vitamin D and those sort of things that
the doctors recommend to take as you get older anyway,
(04:16):
But I feel there's been a major shift in that respect.
And Lisa, you talked about RTT, like the hypnotherapy sessions. Yep, right,
I've had one of those done, So I feel like
that's helped shift energy within me. I just feel like
I'm back to myself.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah, yeah, you can tell Yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Can tell me.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
And that's what I was saying, Like there's a real
vibrancy to your energy. You just it's like you've like
cleansed and you know what I mean, all your shit's gone.
I know it's God, But you know how you're saying
everything feels different twenty twenty five is because you Your
energy is different. So you will have that experience now, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
There's a shift in your energy. Yeah, there is major
change coming up. Yeah yeah you want to Is that
not something to do with that?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
No?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Well, no, that that piece of paper in front of
me that talks about twenty twenty five being a nine year,
there's just no well, yes, no, okay, I get around
and this is just what I wanted to do at
some stage was talk about the fact that twenty twenty
five was a nine year and what that means ye.
What does the number nine ye mean? Yep? Numerologically yeah,
make up words, new energy, what that sort of means
(05:37):
for twenty twenty five and the changes coming for twenty
twenty five. So yeah, yeah, so we'll get to that, Okay,
I'm eager.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, I think, yeah, major changes. I think the end
of twenty twenty four was pretty heavy for me. I
was going through a lot of stuff and I feel
like the universe just threw me in to a space
where I just needed to have very unfiltered, raw conversations.
(06:07):
And my biggest learning is that it doesn't matter how
it's taken, it just you need to speak your truth
no matter what. And I feel like over the years,
just growing up in the entertainment space, I've always been
a real people pleaser, so I've been really careful and
very filtered about how I deliver information. And that's and
(06:27):
the way I do so is very aroundabouts. It's never
between the eyeballs. So I feel like I've really been
put into situations where I've had to have very black
and white yeah conversations.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I've seen major changes in you from twelve months ago
to now, just how as a person like you know,
very sanguine to start with, Yes, but your personality traits
like you And I've always said this to you too.
You like a bit of cleric in there. If you
notice this lace clerics taken over the Seine. Yeah, the
saone's still there. The shift has gone from sanguine coleric
(07:02):
tochleric sanguin.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yes, have I gotten more now?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
You're just chugmatic. There's in your body, Lisa, And I
say that with love.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I do this, you do please go on, just just
do it for me.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
It's just been less about making people feel happy and
that happy vibe, more so taking control and saying, you
know what, this is my truth. And I think that
being a sanguine, and that's part of why I feel
like I have disappointed people because I've been too sanguine.
I've been too uppity.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
And who do you think you've disappointed? I don't think
you've disappointed people.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
No, not disappointed, but more so more words and no
actions type of thinking, let's do this.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
And this, and then I can't commit to it.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Just lack of following through and committing to stuff. That's
been my biggest thing all my life. But I think
this time I have instead of running away from situations,
I've actually had to confront it through the eyeballs. And
it's been really, really scary because I've always wanted to
please everybody, and oh my gosh, I feel bad. But
(08:14):
I've just had to stay in my truth and no
matter what that looks like, it is what it is.
So I think I've come into this year in particular
just realizing that, Okay, this is where I am in
life right now, this is my role, this is what
I see for myself, and just to see it super clear.
Even though life throws you lots of changes, I think
(08:35):
giving myself a lot more stability instead of the sanguine
part has given me a lot more clarity and peace.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah. I actually noticed that, and least you probably did
two that when we all came into the room to
get or you were in the room before we got
here because were out looking for food and they're all gone,
so we just took a box of pies instead. As
we walked in, there was like a different, different aura
(09:06):
around here. Did you say that too? I just felt
like more like boss women.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, but it's more like just you know this, this
is me and I'm in charge of my life.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
And hang on, did you just call her a boss woman? Yeah?
Hang on, that's doesn't that me given?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
You can be that as well? Definitely, but definitely mean
to interrupt. Well, no, we did, but taking charge of
her life. But you're right, it is peaceful.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
It's just like.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
This is me and this is what I want to do,
and yeah, I'm going forward with that.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
And that's just what I what I feel now and
I think, And I was saying to on the phone
the other day to you Tea that most of my
life I feel like I have defined myself upon what
I do, what my role is.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yes, and we discussed this because I was I've said
to you the same thing that if I left radio tomorrow,
who would I be? Would anyone care about me or
anyone gives a shit about me? Because this happened to
me years ago? And no, I don't means interrupted, No, No,
that's great. When I was made redundant from my job
years ago and I was out of radio, I lost
all self, all sense of self. I was like, I'm
(10:13):
nobody now and nobody cares about me, and that I
don't mean anything. So I totally when you said that,
I was like, I one, totally understand what you're talking about,
because you know, and even today I have six times
when I go if I'm not in radio anymore, who
am I? Yeah? Right, Like you said, we define ourselves
(10:33):
by what we've been.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Doing exactly, and I feel like that's been me for
so long, in this little bubble of I must be
doing more so I can be seen as more. So
I think that all these conversations and these shifts have
made me realize it's actually not about what I'm doing,
and it's actually not about what I'm doing or what
I'm not doing. It's just about who I decide to
(10:56):
appear as and that's it at the end of the day,
and not being so entertainer like like wanting a round
of applause at the end of everything. Just understanding that
even through some of these conversations, I think I've developed
maybe some enemies maybe some people who just don't like me,
or maybe never did.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
How does that make you feel? Having been a sanguine,
full on sanguine for so long, who wants everybody to
like you, how does that made you feel? Now?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Oh, it's been a struggle going up and down thinking oh,
maybe I should do this, And now I've come into
this year going you know what, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, yeah, don't give a shit.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I don't care because you're not going to be everybody's
cup of tea at the end of the day, and
I need to just focus on who loves me and
I love them, and that's it. Why bother, Because it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Matter what you do. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
If I roll out a red carpet or I tell
you lovely things. If somebody has decided in their mind
that they don't like you, that's that's unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
That's it. Yeah, that's it. That's it.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
But there's a lot of people that you'll like, celebrities
for example, that you'll say this person somebody I don't
like them, I don't like straight away.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
They don't even know them.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
So if they're making these remarks about these celebrities, they
don't even know what the hell hope do we have? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Seriously, it's true now thirty five, since she's heading into
that food, getting.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Software upgrade is nearly there. Yes, forty yeah, wow, yeah
you do.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
You get to that that switch and you just go,
what was I thinking? Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
And it's just this time wasting mentality that I feel.
Not that I had that for a reason, but it's
just been so time wasting and consuming of me because
I've been thinking about how do I please X?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
How do I do this? How do I.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Control the situation? But you just you just can't feel
like if people are going to talk about you, they're just.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Going to do that. What you do does? You can
only control what you do and how you feel. That's it.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
That's exactly right. I think I've I think I'm still
I'm still working through that.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I'm not one hundred percent there. We a few more
years to get fortytware is happening, But you do.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Find that people actually are talking about you less than
what you actually think.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
It's you that's playing it in your mind. And if
you were to ask that person, they'd be like, mate,
I thought didn't think that about six months ago.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I haven't thought about it.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
It's correct because they're thinking about other people that are
thinking about them, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Right, So it's this vicious cycle exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
So you just can't control it. It's just such a
waste of thought space.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
And we don't live that long as well.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
It's you know, I don't want to get to more
bed but lately I've been having a lot of mist conversations.
So yeah, so there's just a lot of shifts and
I think I've just had to make some very big
decisions in life, don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
And sorry, because we know it.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
We I mean, this isn't a surprise conversation. We've already
had this conversation. Imagine if I was surprising you now,
you'd be like, what.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
The hell is God?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
So, no, we we've had a previous conversation, but this
actual chat was more spontaneous because I was going to
do something separately and I thought I'd just come on
and do it instead because this is how we started. Yes,
so yes, I've decided that I'm stepping back from the
(14:34):
podcast and.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, no, no, no, can you too? Stop? No, like,
don't want to cry.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
You know, And I just this podcast is going to
be something big, and I want you guys to be
able to take this to the moon and back. And
that's what this podcast just actually deserves because we.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Started it with that intention.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
So you know, for you not to do that, you
would be doing a disservice to the podcast and then
obviously to me, who was with you to start. And
I think that you guys need to take this somewhere,
somewhere big, somewhere different, and it's just not somewhere that
I can take it at the moment because I have
a little one year old and my priorities are that
(15:28):
I need to be there for her fully, and I
just want to immerse myself in this new life and
this mum life and just close the door on the
entertainment space, if you will, for now, for whatever is
in the future, I just really want to focus on
(15:49):
my daughter. She's getting more of a not a handful,
but she's becoming more and more energy.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
That's like a little person like she's always been a
little person, but there's more personality there now, correct exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
And if I look at the next you know, three
to five years or three years.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
You know, there may be more kids. I mean, i'd
love more at this boy. Yeah, well today years I
really thought about it.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
It was it was, you know, I would be naturally
stepping further and further away. So, you know, with where
this is going and the momentum that it's hitting and
the fabulous guests that you're having on you need to
keep on this trajectory and you need to do it
without me, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
So it's like thank you, but also it's like a bittersweet.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. It's funny because, like
you said, we did have this conversation before Christmas, and
we have taken a break in the past, and when
we took that first break, I think we're all ready
for it because we've been doing the podcast for a
couple of years now. Lisa and I had the feeling
that you were getting to the point where you were
(16:59):
going to go, I need to step away because we
could see, Yeah, a lot going on in your life
with Demi, with Nick, with his family, with friends, with
you know, your business. I mean, that's a lot to
take on, and so we could see that you were
getting to that point where you were, you know, looking
at possibly stepping back. So when you actually dropped the
bomb on us before Christmas, even though I knew in
(17:22):
the back of my mind that was coming. I felt
like it was a death. And I know that sounds
like a weird thing to say, and I think because
we weren't all on the same page. And I just
and I said to Lisa, I said, I have literally
spent weeks feeling guilty about trying to move forward and
(17:42):
planning how we're going to go forward with this, you know,
looking at new artwork, looking at a new description for
the podcast, like couldn't.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Even really talk about nothing was.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
No we caught up to have a chat about it.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Admittedly I was doing breakfast that week as well, so
getting up four o'clock in the morning didn't help because
I'd come home in the afternoon and Nana nap time
just kicked in. But I just, yeah, I just felt
like I felt guilty moving forward. And then the penny
dropped for me, or not even the penny. It was
like the what was the phrase that I use? It
(18:16):
was like the permission granted was handed When the other
night you shared a video with us and it was
you playing with Demi and I said to you, hey,
you're happy to put this up on our page, and
you said no, this is just for you guys, And
that for me was the permission I needed to move forward.
That for me was Stef saying I'm not here anymore
(18:38):
or I'm not part of this anymore. This is your baby,
And so it's true. From then, I've gone gangbusters. We've
locked in all these guests so good. We're going to
miss out on the lot of it. Hey, but there's
a great podcast you'll be able to listen to Steph
called Life as We Know It when worked at the
rest of it. Yet you'll be able to hear all
the guests that we've got coming on. But yeah, I
(19:00):
honest to God, like I felt like I just didn't
know how to move forward. Yeah, and then Lisa, you
you're more like that now or not so much, not
that you don't know how to move forward, but it's
like this talking about this now is what's affecting you.
I just felt.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Flat today and I was talking to my sister and
you know, I said, we're coming into record and I said,
but I feel really flat and she said why because
like it's our last one with Steph. And I just
felt emotional about it.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
But it's like, like.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I'm so happy for what's to come. And I totally
understand where you are because I would be like you
and I had my kids, you know, when they were young,
that was it for all I wanted to be was
a mom. Yeah. I'm still like that now, Like I
just that's my favorite thing ever, being a mum. Yeah.
So I just feel flat, like I feel excited, but
(19:54):
there's just that flatness.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
It's just sadness. It's sadness. I think it's more sadness.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
It's it, but it's just this sort of flat feeling.
And but what's usually underneath that flat feeling is just
a sadness, you know, where you're just like, Okay, I'm
going this way and that's good. But I'm still you know,
feel about Yeah, but I do. But I honestly, I
feel just so happy for you with what's you know,
(20:24):
where you are in your life and what's coming in
your life. And you know, I'm quite I am. I'm
very traditional and I love that. You know, he's just
seeing you working with your husband and building businesses together
and just being a family, and I think that's such
a beautiful thing. You know that you are giving your
time and energy to growing your family together, your young family,
(20:46):
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, it's been like it's such a good feeling to
be able to focus on that. Like I've never focused
on family ever, have been, you know, even when we
got married and I was still like, I can't explain it.
I've missed out on so many Easters and Christmases. I
(21:08):
was always half there. It was always more defined on
what I did that gave me a lot more joy.
And yeah, I just I think I've put a lot
of that on the back burner at the time that
I guess I should have, you know, in my twenties,
And but I think now now that I have my family,
I just don't want to miss out on that chance
to be there.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I just I really want to own.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
This part of life and just be there fully. And yeah,
it's just it's it's it's a it's a it's a
I'm sad to be here to you, to be honest,
because I was emotional in the car. It's it's sad
not knowing, you know, when will I ever be back,
or like, when will I ever see this room again.
(21:51):
I'll see the microphone in the same way. But but
I think I think that the like internally, like the
door even when I sent you that message, it was
like the door is shut on that it's just gone.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah. Yeah, But I think that we all needed to
see that message with you saying no, I don't want
you to share this, yeah, because I felt like that
was significant for all of us, you know, like I said,
for me, it meant yep. I can move forward. Now,
I can start planning. You know who the guests are.
You know, we can start talking about what our color
(22:26):
scheme is now going to be, what are we changing?
You know what I mean. I just I just felt
like I felt guilty moving forward with that stuff because
for so long it's been the three of us.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
You know what I'm just thinking now, what make you cry?
I'm thinking about when we get to the end of
recording this and we go is that it are we done?
And it's like a scene from you know, the last
scene from Friends. Oh, I've got that playing in my head.
I don't want to get to that point.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I'm actually glad that you said that, because I didn't
know what you're gonna say.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
You know, there's those.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Moments in our podcast and I'm like, what what is
she gonna say? This is.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Emotional. Sorry, Yeah, I've just got that Friends, the last
episode of Friends playing in my head, go away. We're
not there yet. We still got at least another many
minutes ago. Yeah, true, it's true. Yeah, of course.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
And then you know this Sea, you know you'll have
some fabulous guests and have some great conversations.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I just I just I just know that it's going
to do so so well. Thank you. Yeah, I wanted
to tell you they're going to miss out. Yeah, all right, Well,
anybody see that coming. Look, you know, we are very
sad to see Steph go, but we do know she's
got a lot going on in her life and we
wish we wish it well and we wish all the
(23:52):
best as well. Okay, So that's it for that episode
with Steph. There is another episode coming up, all right,
So there is another farewell episode if you want to
call it that. It's on the way, So keep an
eye out for that. Look, if you're not following us
where you listen to your favorite podcasts, please do so
review what you've just heard. We'd love a five star
(24:12):
review if that's okay, But we'd love to know what
you think. Okay, And look, we're more than happy to
have a chat to you anytime you can contact us
through our socials. Alrighty, so this has been Life as
we know it, a podcast where you've had three ladies
from three different generations sharing our life experiences. Myself Tony
Tanalira in my fifties, Lisa Cammon in her forties and
for the second last time, Steph Zaharakas in her thirties.
(24:34):
Catch up with you in our next episode.
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