February 26, 2025 • 20 mins
In this heartfelt episode, we sit down with Lisa Cameron, a devoted mum who has always prioritized her kids above all else. She shares her journey of how motherhood has always been her number one priority and how she doesn't feel she need to justify her choice to be a stay at home mum, something many women struggle with.
As a life coach, Lisa finds deep fulfillment in helping others, but she also opens up about the emotional challenge of her boys moving out to live with their dad. Through it all, family support has been her anchor. Now, she’s stepping into a new chapter, working towards moving closer to her boys, and embracing the energetic shift that comes with it. Tune in for an inspiring conversation on motherhood, resilience, and the power of embracing change.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Every day brings a new story. Life isn't perfect, but
it's perfectly ours, with raw conversations, inspiring stories and laugh
until you cry moments we hit them. I'm pack it
all and figure it out together, one episode at a time.
This is life as we know it, Unfiltered with Tony
Tanalia and Lisa Cameron.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
In our last episode, we learned a lot about me,
am I starting radio. Well, now it's time to learn
a bit more about Lisa. I'm talking about you for
a second now, okay, focusing on me, and I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Well good, finally finally, like your your your number one
thing is being a mum, which I love, you know,
and like most mums think that way.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Now, my number one thing when the kids were little
too was being a mum. But I also was like, okay,
my career is also important because I worked so hard
for it, so meshing the two together, you know, and
over the years, you know, we did that with you,
like tell us about.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
What my career, any job that I've had has always
been around the kids, so you know, I guess there's been,
you know, times where I feel like, oh I could
progress more, but I was always like no, because that's
going to take me away from the kids, and I
don't want that.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
And I've never been that mum that felt ashamed of
being a stay at home mum. I loved it. I
did it for seven years. And then even after seven years,
when my ex husband was like, do you reckon, it's
time you have a little part time job, and I'm like, yeah,
but only if it works around the kids, that was it.
And so I did that for years. I worked in
a health food store and it worked around the kids.
(01:52):
And then there was a time when I was working
at night and I worked on SAT Days, so you know,
their dad was at home with them. But even and
then I could feel that that had an impact on
the family and I.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Didn't like that.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
So yeah, I've never felt that shame like when I
you know, we talked about this in the last episode
with Steph, and you know, when mums feel like they
have to say, oh, yeah, I'm a stay at home mum,
but I do work five hours a week.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Justify the fact that they do that they have the.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Biggest job in the world. If you were a nanny,
that would be okay, yes, you're going out to work
to look after someone's kids, but when you say it's
your kids, you feel like you have to justify that.
For me, yeah, I've never never felt like that. So
everything I do even now, have ideas for things, and
(02:42):
I'll be like, but how's that gonna impact my time
with the kids, because I mean, you know, I'm divorced now,
so I have less time with them. And I don't
want to use it as an excuse too, because they
are getting older and they're having more time away and
doing their things and everything like that. But I just
still find everything that I do I wanted to revolve around.
(03:03):
You know. I was looking, you know, for like some
extra work the other day, and I'm like, oh, that
looks good, but that's going to be nighttime, and that's
when I have my younger son, and yeah, that's not
going to work for men.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
The kid's now being a lot older because your youngest
is how old now?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
He's fifteen?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Fifteen? Okay, so he's still yeah, still young enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
But I don't I just don't want it to cut
into that time. And I think I feel it more
because I see them.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
A lot less.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
If I were to take on a job that just
completely cut into that time. I'm like, when am I
going to see them? And I know I've done that thing.
You know, this is a Tony Robinson and a lot
of other coaches do it.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
You imagine yourself being eighty or ninety years old and
you're looking back at your life and you ask yourself
something like what is it that I would regret? And
it was like not seeing my kids. I know that
for me, it's not I wish I had done that
job or that. It doesn't yeah, it doesn't. Yeah, it
(04:02):
doesn't feel.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
That now to myself though back. Yeah, I look back
now and go, just if I could go back to
that time, I would completely change how I did that.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Really.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, And for me it's literally just the after having
moved back from overseas and just when Jess was going
through all her depression and me not really seeing it
understanding it. Yep, you know, like now I look at
that and I go, fuck the fuck that up, didn't I?
But that's how I feel, So I totally understand what
you're saying.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Yeah, yeah, and look I have you know, I love
coaching and that's a big part of my background and
I absolutely feel alive when I'm doing coaching with someone, ye,
but there is nothing that makes me feel when I'm
in the room with my three boys, I feel so alive.
Even if even if they they're on their phones or
(04:56):
you know, two of them are bickering or whatever, They're
part of me. Yeah, I feel energized by that, and
I feel on purpose and I feel like I want
to make them something to eat and I want to
do this, and I want to sit and cuddle them
on the couch and everything like that. Like there is
nothing that makes me feel as alive as being a
mom does. So yeah, I'm really that's just my number
(05:21):
one for me.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah. Yeah, So it must be very hard for you
with the kids not living with you, because I like,
I know, like as mine started moving out, it was like, oh, well,
like I mean, Jess moved out very young. She was
like she wasn't even eighteen when she moved out, and
that was that was that was really tough for several
(05:42):
reasons for me, because it was like she moved out
because life at home wasn't good and we didn't connect
and we were going through a lot of issues, you know,
and so so like I you know, as much as
I was like, she probably needs to do this for
her sanity and for mine because we were just added
other's throats at the same time. And I know I
(06:03):
shouldn't have made it about me because it wasn't about me.
It was about her. But there was a part of
me that was like, I'm a complete failure as a
mother that my daughter needed to leave the house and
get out at such a young age. Josh moved out,
It wasn't It was for different reasons. You know, he
was in a relationship and they were going to live together,
and so that, you know, that was completely different. It
(06:24):
was still still a loss because like that is just
men leam at home, and part of me is like,
you know, yeah, it'd be great for him to move out,
But then it was like, hang on a second. Then
once he goes, they were going to see my fucking kids.
I've said to Lim already, I think I already told
you guys this, but I said this to Lamb that
when you move out, you need to make sure you
ring me every day because the other two fuckers won't,
(06:47):
just to make sure I'm still alive. I don't want you, guys,
three days later I die, you come back three days later,
and there's cat's eaten me, you know, since someone has
to stay in touch to make sure I'm okay.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Oh my god, it will be leaving be money for me,
It'll be the one. Yeah, you know, keeping in touch.
But you know, as soon as you ask me that,
I mean you probably see, like I have, I started
to cry.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, I thought, I just keep talking, just to give
your time to calm down and settle down. Otherwise get
anything out of it.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
It's the sorest hardest part.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Isn't it.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Yeah, in my life, and I hate it. Yeah, I
mean I've accepted that. You know, I'm divorced. That's that
that bit, that's I'm cool with that. Yeah, you know,
that's like my ex is on his path. I'm on
my path totally. I get that. But having kids and
(07:43):
not seeing them, yeah, I mean I've you know, I've
always seen them, but seeing them fifty to fifty and
then you know, when my oldest at fifteen said he
didn't want to live with me, Yeah, that's that was
worse than the life. That was worse than the divorce.
And I thought, I did, this was not how I
(08:06):
imagined having a family. And you know, it's the death
of a dream, you know, the dream to live with
your kids all the time, see them all the time,
have their friends over. You know. I had to grieve
that that dream because that's what I wanted, right.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
How did you manage that?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Like, like what, I didn't manage it? Well, I it's
still heart you know. I you know, I've shared this.
I put on a lot of weight. I cried a lot.
I mean I moved back with my family. You know,
That's that's crushing in a way, you know, to be
(08:50):
in your forties and move back with your family. But
it's also been very beautiful and a healing. I've never
felt so supported in my life. I mean, my this
is literally nurse me back to health, you know, Like
I literally went in there and did nothing. Like they
were making me cups of teas and feeding me. And
(09:11):
I didn't cope for years. Yeah, I didn't cope. I
probably you know. I still don't cope with it now.
But I've made a decision to move so I can
be near my sons because I spent the first six
months of last year just crying. Every morning, I'd get
(09:31):
out of bed and just cry. And someone said, how
do you get on with your day? And I said, well,
I just cry and then I get on with my
day and that's it. And then I thought to myself, well,
I can't live my life like this. I've got to
do something about it. So, yeah, I've made the decision
to move. And you know, this part of me that
wishes I had have moved a few years ago. But
(09:54):
I also I financially wasn't in a good place.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
I didn't believe in myself, didn't know who I was.
There were so many different factors, and I just needed
a safe, warm, beautiful home for my boys. Yep. And
I got that, you know, living with my family. And
you know that at that time, I would have had
to have lived with a border to help pay with
the rent or got a partner. I was not ready
(10:20):
to have someone unknown in my children's life. So you know,
I did what I needed to do at that time.
But yeah, I'm in a different place now, but yeah,
it's still there, the stab in my heart.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
It really is just around go, I don't want to
live with you anymore. I know it because I went
through that with Jess, So I totally understand that that
feeling and that you know, it's like as a Mum,
I fucked it up. I'm not saying that that's what
you would say, but that's how you feel.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
You absolutely do, and you just think, how does my
son not want to live with me? But you know,
I mean I remember and he told me and I
stopped crying and I was like, hang on, he's trying
to tell me something here. And what he was saying was, Mom,
my life is over near where Daddy is. All my
friends live there, my school is there. I don't feel
connected to where we're living in Digger's Rest. And you know,
(11:16):
I totally get that.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And as like, Mum, it's not about you, it's about
everything else going on in my life.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yeah, yeah, but it's yeah, like I said, it's that
death of a dream that you just God, this is
not what I expected in life, but yeah, you do.
You just get on with it. And yeah, I'm glad
I've made that decision. And you know, I'm looking forward
to moving over near where they are very soon. So
I can you know, especially my youngest, he can come
(11:44):
home after school, he can bring his friends. I can
do those things that my mom did. You know. She
just have food ready for them, and I love that
she had food, she had checks. Oh my god, home
from work and go Now I loved it. I can
drive him to soccer train and pick him up from work,
all of those things. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
So so let's talk about stage two of your life,
the next stage two, whatever stage you're up to. So this,
this is quite exciting about making that decision of moving
away from the family home yep, and closer.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
To the boys yep. Closer to the boys, and.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You having stayed at your exes. Now, that would have
that would have just you know, set that fire alight
that little bit.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
He would have been how quickly can I get here? Now? Totally?
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Then that was such a gift. I did that the
other week, stayed in fits rode his place while he
was away with our youngest and got to spend time
with my other two and you know, filling up the
fridge with food they like and rearrange in the cupboard.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
They appreciate that. They go, God, Mom's great that here
we've got food in the fridge. I think, so goody boys,
Because I felt happy.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
I'm like y doing this, this is what I love doing.
So yeah, I felt happy about doing those things and
just getting to walk around Fitzroy and going, yep, this.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Is my vibe.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
I love it here. This is so cool. So yeah,
that was great, And it's you know, I am coming
into this new chapter and I've been doing a lot
of you know, inner work and building that vision of
me living in Fitzroy and to the point where I'm
waking up in the morning and i feel like I'm
in Fitzroy. So along with that.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Is real Estate dot Com sending you alerts yet can
check out this plan that'll.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Listening on the phone. But you know, what I've noticed
is that over the last few days, I've had like
this firiness and anger come up through me and I'm like, oh,
something is changing here. Yeah, so I know what do
you mean by that? Like what, I'm building a new
inner world and I'm waking up feeling that I'm in
(13:52):
this other world. I'm letting go of this old self
of me who is connected to where I currently and
it's it's like, I don't know if it's like the
grieving or something coming on. You know, I can sense
it that I'm stepping into a new chapter. I've started
packing up my room, I've started packing up my son's room,
(14:13):
and you know, I wrote in my diary last night,
I'm like, I feel weird. Something is shangey. You know,
I can build the shift it's coming. So there's changes
going on internally in me, and I can feel it's happening,
you know that feeling. Yeah, so it's been about five
days of just feeling this. I wrote in my diary.
(14:35):
I feel like I'm lurking around in my body. When
you're like, I'm here and something's going on.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Here, but you're not here. It's like, I'm here, but
I'm not supposed to be here. This is supposed to
be somewhere else, somewhere else. You've already moved much, what
you've done. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Yeah, so I feel weird. I feel like I'm being
weird around my sisters and everything because I'm feeling weird
in my body.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
So you know you're going to move. They do totally. Yeah, totally,
they're cool. So they saying, Lisa, hurry up and get out.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Probably they're like, weird, get the room back. I know
they've probably already planted out of bloody Bishes and they
they're like, oh, we're going to put a couch here,
do that?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
You know? Yeah, new curtains.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Yeah, exactly. So I don't know what it all looks like,
but I just know that it's going to work. I'm
getting the signs to pack things up and so I'm
doing that and just taking that aligned action. So so
you haven't.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Got to the stage yet though, Were you're looking at
real estate dot Com?
Speaker 4 (15:36):
No, because I know that you know, like I love
quantum physics and Joe Dispenser's work, and if you haven't
built it in your mind, you are trying to change
matter with matter, but you need to create the world
internally first, and then you that energy creates matter. So
(16:00):
then that's when you get the signs from the universe
that hey, things are happening and this world has now
been created. Because if I go into real estate dot
Com now I know that i'm looking, I'm going to
just get blocked. It's going to be it's not there.
I can feel it in me.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
It's not there. See. I would have thought that that
would have been part of that whole rebuilding, that manifestation,
because I know, for me, when I was looking to
buy a house, I spent I reckon twelve months on
real estate dot Com checking out houses, what the market
was like what I could get for a certain price.
Like I was doing all of that.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
And there's doing that to build the vision, but to
actually go out and look at places to rent or whatever,
that doesn't feel aligned right for me. I'm like, that's
not there yet. It could be a conversation that someone says, hey,
I heard your wanting to meet Fitzroy. I've got this
house or da da or I could be sitting on
(16:53):
the computer one day and real estate dot Com pops
up and do you know what I mean? But I've
done a little bit of looking at rentals and I'm like,
this doesn't feel right.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
It's not ready.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
It's not ready yet.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah. Yeah, and you'll be seeing places you go. I'm
like that, that's that's what am I thinking? Moving there exactly? Yeah,
I get it. I get it.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
And then it just starts creating another energy that you
start attracting more of things that you don't want. So
in my mind, I live in Fitzroy. That's that's what's
going on in my mind. And the perfect places turned
up and it all works out perfectly, you know that
kind of thing. So yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Look out that movement and the movement and then there's
all these things happening with our podcast. God, it's exciting.
It's like this whirlpool of just stuff happening.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
It really is, it really is.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
So it's really powerful when you tune into it, you know,
and really start working with that energy and tuning into
what feels aligned and what doesn't and and moving with that.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah. Exciting times lifted, lots happening, lot's coming up.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Yeah, all right, let's spend lots of fun.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
We did it, We did we did it, did it.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I think Steph will be proud of us.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I think she will send it the link to the podcast. Now,
have a listened to this, Steph? What do you reckon?
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Do we do?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
All right?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
She'll probably be let you guys talk too much?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Isn't that the whole idea.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Radio?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
We're not talking this silence? I always got told, Oh god,
all right, Well, this has been a great start and
we covered off a lot. Yeah it has, haven't we Yep.
This has been a very interesting chat we've had. And
though we've known stuff about each other, I sort of
feel like we've learnt more about each other at the
(18:43):
same time. Totally. Isn't funny that that you know, we
have conversations about things, and we'll talk about stuff, but
when you're actually put on the spot to talk about yourself.
I don't know about you, but I'm like, I can't
do it. Well, I can and I can't well.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
And it's nerve wracking too, because if anyone ask me
how do I go live? Me that the boys you
can see? Yeah, just and I start crying straight away,
And so it does it feel? It's like, oh no,
what are they going to ask?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
All right, not to self. Don't ask Lisa again what
it's like living without the boys?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
All right? What is it?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
On that note, I think it's time to wrap up. Yep,
be prepared for more of this sort of stuff.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
And an exciting guests exactly right.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, wait, I know, I know, I know. All right. Well,
happy chatting.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Late, Happy chatting team.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
It's been awesome.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
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Every day brings a new story. Life isn't perfect, but
it's perfectly ours, with raw conversations, inspiring stories and laugh
until you cry moments we hit them. I'm pack it
all and figure it out together, one episode at a time.
This is life as we know it, Unfiltered with Tony
Tanalia and Lisa Cameron.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
In our last episode, we learned a lot about me,
am I starting radio. Well, now it's time to learn
a bit more about Lisa. I'm talking about you for
a second now, okay, focusing on me, and I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Well good, finally finally, like your your your number one
thing is being a mum, which I love, you know,
and like most mums think that way.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Now, my number one thing when the kids were little
too was being a mum. But I also was like, okay,
my career is also important because I worked so hard
for it, so meshing the two together, you know, and
over the years, you know, we did that with you,
like tell us about.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
What my career, any job that I've had has always
been around the kids, so you know, I guess there's been,
you know, times where I feel like, oh I could
progress more, but I was always like no, because that's
going to take me away from the kids, and I
don't want that.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
And I've never been that mum that felt ashamed of
being a stay at home mum. I loved it. I
did it for seven years. And then even after seven years,
when my ex husband was like, do you reckon, it's
time you have a little part time job, and I'm like, yeah,
but only if it works around the kids, that was it.
And so I did that for years. I worked in
a health food store and it worked around the kids.
(01:52):
And then there was a time when I was working
at night and I worked on SAT Days, so you know,
their dad was at home with them. But even and
then I could feel that that had an impact on
the family and I.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Didn't like that.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
So yeah, I've never felt that shame like when I
you know, we talked about this in the last episode
with Steph, and you know, when mums feel like they
have to say, oh, yeah, I'm a stay at home mum,
but I do work five hours a week.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Justify the fact that they do that they have the.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Biggest job in the world. If you were a nanny,
that would be okay, yes, you're going out to work
to look after someone's kids, but when you say it's
your kids, you feel like you have to justify that.
For me, yeah, I've never never felt like that. So
everything I do even now, have ideas for things, and
(02:42):
I'll be like, but how's that gonna impact my time
with the kids, because I mean, you know, I'm divorced now,
so I have less time with them. And I don't
want to use it as an excuse too, because they
are getting older and they're having more time away and
doing their things and everything like that. But I just
still find everything that I do I wanted to revolve around.
(03:03):
You know. I was looking, you know, for like some
extra work the other day, and I'm like, oh, that
looks good, but that's going to be nighttime, and that's
when I have my younger son, and yeah, that's not
going to work for men.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
The kid's now being a lot older because your youngest
is how old now?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
He's fifteen?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Fifteen? Okay, so he's still yeah, still young enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
But I don't I just don't want it to cut
into that time. And I think I feel it more
because I see them.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
A lot less.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
If I were to take on a job that just
completely cut into that time. I'm like, when am I
going to see them? And I know I've done that thing.
You know, this is a Tony Robinson and a lot
of other coaches do it.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
You imagine yourself being eighty or ninety years old and
you're looking back at your life and you ask yourself
something like what is it that I would regret? And
it was like not seeing my kids. I know that
for me, it's not I wish I had done that
job or that. It doesn't yeah, it doesn't. Yeah, it
(04:02):
doesn't feel.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
That now to myself though back. Yeah, I look back
now and go, just if I could go back to
that time, I would completely change how I did that.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Really.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, And for me it's literally just the after having
moved back from overseas and just when Jess was going
through all her depression and me not really seeing it
understanding it. Yep, you know, like now I look at
that and I go, fuck the fuck that up, didn't I?
But that's how I feel, So I totally understand what
you're saying.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Yeah, yeah, and look I have you know, I love
coaching and that's a big part of my background and
I absolutely feel alive when I'm doing coaching with someone, ye,
but there is nothing that makes me feel when I'm
in the room with my three boys, I feel so alive.
Even if even if they they're on their phones or
(04:56):
you know, two of them are bickering or whatever, They're
part of me. Yeah, I feel energized by that, and
I feel on purpose and I feel like I want
to make them something to eat and I want to
do this, and I want to sit and cuddle them
on the couch and everything like that. Like there is
nothing that makes me feel as alive as being a
mom does. So yeah, I'm really that's just my number
(05:21):
one for me.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah. Yeah, So it must be very hard for you
with the kids not living with you, because I like,
I know, like as mine started moving out, it was like, oh, well,
like I mean, Jess moved out very young. She was
like she wasn't even eighteen when she moved out, and
that was that was that was really tough for several
(05:42):
reasons for me, because it was like she moved out
because life at home wasn't good and we didn't connect
and we were going through a lot of issues, you know,
and so so like I you know, as much as
I was like, she probably needs to do this for
her sanity and for mine because we were just added
other's throats at the same time. And I know I
(06:03):
shouldn't have made it about me because it wasn't about me.
It was about her. But there was a part of
me that was like, I'm a complete failure as a
mother that my daughter needed to leave the house and
get out at such a young age. Josh moved out,
It wasn't It was for different reasons. You know, he
was in a relationship and they were going to live together,
and so that, you know, that was completely different. It
(06:24):
was still still a loss because like that is just
men leam at home, and part of me is like,
you know, yeah, it'd be great for him to move out,
But then it was like, hang on a second. Then
once he goes, they were going to see my fucking kids.
I've said to Lim already, I think I already told
you guys this, but I said this to Lamb that
when you move out, you need to make sure you
ring me every day because the other two fuckers won't,
(06:47):
just to make sure I'm still alive. I don't want you, guys,
three days later I die, you come back three days later,
and there's cat's eaten me, you know, since someone has
to stay in touch to make sure I'm okay.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Oh my god, it will be leaving be money for me,
It'll be the one. Yeah, you know, keeping in touch.
But you know, as soon as you ask me that,
I mean you probably see, like I have, I started
to cry.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, I thought, I just keep talking, just to give
your time to calm down and settle down. Otherwise get
anything out of it.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
It's the sorest hardest part.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Isn't it.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Yeah, in my life, and I hate it. Yeah, I
mean I've accepted that. You know, I'm divorced. That's that
that bit, that's I'm cool with that. Yeah, you know,
that's like my ex is on his path. I'm on
my path totally. I get that. But having kids and
(07:43):
not seeing them, yeah, I mean I've you know, I've
always seen them, but seeing them fifty to fifty and
then you know, when my oldest at fifteen said he
didn't want to live with me, Yeah, that's that was
worse than the life. That was worse than the divorce.
And I thought, I did, this was not how I
(08:06):
imagined having a family. And you know, it's the death
of a dream, you know, the dream to live with
your kids all the time, see them all the time,
have their friends over. You know. I had to grieve
that that dream because that's what I wanted, right.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
How did you manage that?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Like, like what, I didn't manage it? Well, I it's
still heart you know. I you know, I've shared this.
I put on a lot of weight. I cried a lot.
I mean I moved back with my family. You know,
That's that's crushing in a way, you know, to be
(08:50):
in your forties and move back with your family. But
it's also been very beautiful and a healing. I've never
felt so supported in my life. I mean, my this
is literally nurse me back to health, you know, Like
I literally went in there and did nothing. Like they
were making me cups of teas and feeding me. And
(09:11):
I didn't cope for years. Yeah, I didn't cope. I
probably you know. I still don't cope with it now.
But I've made a decision to move so I can
be near my sons because I spent the first six
months of last year just crying. Every morning, I'd get
(09:31):
out of bed and just cry. And someone said, how
do you get on with your day? And I said, well,
I just cry and then I get on with my
day and that's it. And then I thought to myself, well,
I can't live my life like this. I've got to
do something about it. So, yeah, I've made the decision
to move. And you know, this part of me that
wishes I had have moved a few years ago. But
(09:54):
I also I financially wasn't in a good place.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
I didn't believe in myself, didn't know who I was.
There were so many different factors, and I just needed
a safe, warm, beautiful home for my boys. Yep. And
I got that, you know, living with my family. And
you know that at that time, I would have had
to have lived with a border to help pay with
the rent or got a partner. I was not ready
(10:20):
to have someone unknown in my children's life. So you know,
I did what I needed to do at that time.
But yeah, I'm in a different place now, but yeah,
it's still there, the stab in my heart.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
It really is just around go, I don't want to
live with you anymore. I know it because I went
through that with Jess, So I totally understand that that
feeling and that you know, it's like as a Mum,
I fucked it up. I'm not saying that that's what
you would say, but that's how you feel.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
You absolutely do, and you just think, how does my
son not want to live with me? But you know,
I mean I remember and he told me and I
stopped crying and I was like, hang on, he's trying
to tell me something here. And what he was saying was, Mom,
my life is over near where Daddy is. All my
friends live there, my school is there. I don't feel
connected to where we're living in Digger's Rest. And you know,
(11:16):
I totally get that.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And as like, Mum, it's not about you, it's about
everything else going on in my life.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yeah, yeah, but it's yeah, like I said, it's that
death of a dream that you just God, this is
not what I expected in life, but yeah, you do.
You just get on with it. And yeah, I'm glad
I've made that decision. And you know, I'm looking forward
to moving over near where they are very soon. So
I can you know, especially my youngest, he can come
(11:44):
home after school, he can bring his friends. I can
do those things that my mom did. You know. She
just have food ready for them, and I love that
she had food, she had checks. Oh my god, home
from work and go Now I loved it. I can
drive him to soccer train and pick him up from work,
all of those things. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
So so let's talk about stage two of your life,
the next stage two, whatever stage you're up to. So this,
this is quite exciting about making that decision of moving
away from the family home yep, and closer.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
To the boys yep. Closer to the boys, and.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You having stayed at your exes. Now, that would have
that would have just you know, set that fire alight
that little bit.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
He would have been how quickly can I get here? Now? Totally?
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Then that was such a gift. I did that the
other week, stayed in fits rode his place while he
was away with our youngest and got to spend time
with my other two and you know, filling up the
fridge with food they like and rearrange in the cupboard.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
They appreciate that. They go, God, Mom's great that here
we've got food in the fridge. I think, so goody boys,
Because I felt happy.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
I'm like y doing this, this is what I love doing.
So yeah, I felt happy about doing those things and
just getting to walk around Fitzroy and going, yep, this.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Is my vibe.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
I love it here. This is so cool. So yeah,
that was great, And it's you know, I am coming
into this new chapter and I've been doing a lot
of you know, inner work and building that vision of
me living in Fitzroy and to the point where I'm
waking up in the morning and i feel like I'm
in Fitzroy. So along with that.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Is real Estate dot Com sending you alerts yet can
check out this plan that'll.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Listening on the phone. But you know, what I've noticed
is that over the last few days, I've had like
this firiness and anger come up through me and I'm like, oh,
something is changing here. Yeah, so I know what do
you mean by that? Like what, I'm building a new
inner world and I'm waking up feeling that I'm in
(13:52):
this other world. I'm letting go of this old self
of me who is connected to where I currently and
it's it's like, I don't know if it's like the
grieving or something coming on. You know, I can sense
it that I'm stepping into a new chapter. I've started
packing up my room, I've started packing up my son's room,
(14:13):
and you know, I wrote in my diary last night,
I'm like, I feel weird. Something is shangey. You know,
I can build the shift it's coming. So there's changes
going on internally in me, and I can feel it's happening,
you know that feeling. Yeah, so it's been about five
days of just feeling this. I wrote in my diary.
(14:35):
I feel like I'm lurking around in my body. When
you're like, I'm here and something's going on.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Here, but you're not here. It's like, I'm here, but
I'm not supposed to be here. This is supposed to
be somewhere else, somewhere else. You've already moved much, what
you've done. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Yeah, so I feel weird. I feel like I'm being
weird around my sisters and everything because I'm feeling weird
in my body.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
So you know you're going to move. They do totally. Yeah, totally,
they're cool. So they saying, Lisa, hurry up and get out.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Probably they're like, weird, get the room back. I know
they've probably already planted out of bloody Bishes and they
they're like, oh, we're going to put a couch here,
do that?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
You know? Yeah, new curtains.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Yeah, exactly. So I don't know what it all looks like,
but I just know that it's going to work. I'm
getting the signs to pack things up and so I'm
doing that and just taking that aligned action. So so
you haven't.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Got to the stage yet though, Were you're looking at
real estate dot Com?
Speaker 4 (15:36):
No, because I know that you know, like I love
quantum physics and Joe Dispenser's work, and if you haven't
built it in your mind, you are trying to change
matter with matter, but you need to create the world
internally first, and then you that energy creates matter. So
(16:00):
then that's when you get the signs from the universe
that hey, things are happening and this world has now
been created. Because if I go into real estate dot
Com now I know that i'm looking, I'm going to
just get blocked. It's going to be it's not there.
I can feel it in me.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
It's not there. See. I would have thought that that
would have been part of that whole rebuilding, that manifestation,
because I know, for me, when I was looking to
buy a house, I spent I reckon twelve months on
real estate dot Com checking out houses, what the market
was like what I could get for a certain price.
Like I was doing all of that.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
And there's doing that to build the vision, but to
actually go out and look at places to rent or whatever,
that doesn't feel aligned right for me. I'm like, that's
not there yet. It could be a conversation that someone says, hey,
I heard your wanting to meet Fitzroy. I've got this
house or da da or I could be sitting on
(16:53):
the computer one day and real estate dot Com pops
up and do you know what I mean? But I've
done a little bit of looking at rentals and I'm like,
this doesn't feel right.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
It's not ready.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
It's not ready yet.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah. Yeah, and you'll be seeing places you go. I'm
like that, that's that's what am I thinking? Moving there exactly? Yeah,
I get it. I get it.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
And then it just starts creating another energy that you
start attracting more of things that you don't want. So
in my mind, I live in Fitzroy. That's that's what's
going on in my mind. And the perfect places turned
up and it all works out perfectly, you know that
kind of thing. So yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Look out that movement and the movement and then there's
all these things happening with our podcast. God, it's exciting.
It's like this whirlpool of just stuff happening.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
It really is, it really is.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
So it's really powerful when you tune into it, you know,
and really start working with that energy and tuning into
what feels aligned and what doesn't and and moving with that.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah. Exciting times lifted, lots happening, lot's coming up.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Yeah, all right, let's spend lots of fun.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
We did it, We did we did it, did it.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I think Steph will be proud of us.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I think she will send it the link to the podcast. Now,
have a listened to this, Steph? What do you reckon?
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Do we do?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
All right?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
She'll probably be let you guys talk too much?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Isn't that the whole idea.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Radio?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
We're not talking this silence? I always got told, Oh god,
all right, Well, this has been a great start and
we covered off a lot. Yeah it has, haven't we Yep.
This has been a very interesting chat we've had. And
though we've known stuff about each other, I sort of
feel like we've learnt more about each other at the
(18:43):
same time. Totally. Isn't funny that that you know, we
have conversations about things, and we'll talk about stuff, but
when you're actually put on the spot to talk about yourself.
I don't know about you, but I'm like, I can't
do it. Well, I can and I can't well.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
And it's nerve wracking too, because if anyone ask me
how do I go live? Me that the boys you
can see? Yeah, just and I start crying straight away,
And so it does it feel? It's like, oh no,
what are they going to ask?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
All right, not to self. Don't ask Lisa again what
it's like living without the boys?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
All right? What is it?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
On that note, I think it's time to wrap up. Yep,
be prepared for more of this sort of stuff.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
And an exciting guests exactly right.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, wait, I know, I know, I know. All right. Well,
happy chatting.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Late, Happy chatting team.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
It's been awesome.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
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