June 9, 2025 • 22 mins
2025 is a year of transformation, and for Toni and Lisa, it’s hitting close to home. In this deeply personal episode, Lisa opens up about the major changes unfolding in her life. From starting a new job to moving house and rebuilding her world from the ground up, she shares the excitement and empowerment that come with embracing a fresh start.
But it’s not just about new chapters, Lisa also bravely shares the heartbreaking news that her father has been diagnosed with lung cancer. She discusses his decision to decline treatment and how she and her family are coming to terms with it.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Every day brings a new story.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The life isn't perfect, but it's perfectly ours, with raw conversations,
inspiring stories and laugh until you cry moments we hit them.
I unpack it all and figure it out together, one
episode at a time. This is life as we know it,
unfiltered with Tony Tanalia and Lisa Cameron.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Let's go. This is funny.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Sitting across I feel like we should be playing.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Cards or something, and I think I've got some in
my bay.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Have you really not playing cards? I've got you know,
those cards that we Oh my god, here we go,
here we go away.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
It's not the microphone, it's the head. There was something
going on.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
You had them sitting the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I did. Yeah, And then I can hear I've reached out.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Is that a good thing.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
He's a good thing, Tony. We're back.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
We're back.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
We're back.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Well, I mean we have been back each week anyway.
We've just had guests with us. But now it's just
you and me, baby, It's just you and I and
I don't know what's been going on between us because
the two of us are both wearing burgundy top and
we've got our granny jumpers on.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I can't. I actually can't believe you.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
I mean, we used to do this with Steph all
the time. We'd become in coordinated colors.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
We haven't lost our touch, we haven't Steph here, We
still We've still got We've still got a baby.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
We're going to send Steph a photo she's do you
know what, She's probably at home wearing the same things.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, probably, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
So every time we've caught up, we've had a guest.
So it's been a bit difficult for you and I
to do a proper catch up. Well we you and
I do proper catch ups away from the podcast, but
we've had a lot going on in our lives the
past few months. Yes, and it's stuff that we wanting
to share with our listeners. Yeah, I reckon you go firstly,
(01:57):
so because yours is probably a bit more exciting.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
What's happening in your life really has been Mine feels
jam packed at the moment, but in a really good way,
because you know, like I'm right into manifesting, and that
I've spent like the last probably six or seven months
really building internally this new world that I want to live,
and you're.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Living it, and I.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Know It's like it's like everything you've put up on
your vision board has basically happened your living side.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
That a vision board works.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Vision board and really doing the in a work because
you can say believe and receive, right, But if you
say that and then you're going, yeah, I want to
do this, But now I'm still going to happen to
ed Like, I've had to overcome the mental limitations that
I've been placing myself. So for me to move to
Digger's Rest in Northcotte is obviously financially like a big jump,
(02:52):
so I've had to build internally. I've had to expand
my nervous system so that I'm able to earn more
income yep, and except that lovingly.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Without going oh no, I'm not worthy of this or whatever.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
So building the self worth to go, yes, that's okay,
If I earn X amount of dollars a week, that's
totally fine. And to be able to live in the
space and feel comfortable doing it. So there's been so
much work. My sisters saw me every day just meditating,
and I would just lay in bed and I would
build that vision. I would even do things tea where
I was literally hearing a tram. So I imagine that
(03:28):
there was a tram going past my place and I
would hear the ding ding ding ding, So I would
do that, and I would even play sounds of the
tram right on YouTube and I'd play that.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
So this is the this is obviously there's no tram
and Digger's rest. So you're playing sound effects of a
tram as if you are living in Northcote. Yes, yes, yes,
so I've got to play wave noises and ocean sounds, do.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
That everything you can to make it that really internally. Now,
when I wake up in the morning, yep. So I'm
in North Kote. When I wake up in the morning,
I hear the tram every single morning.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Not embedded in your brain from listening to it, and
it's real.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
It's real, And I give a fist pump and I go, yes,
I did it, I did it.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I did it.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
So yeah, there was a lot of internal work that
went on to actually give it. You know, people would
just go, yeah, you can move and whatever. But if
you don't have that self worth, self belief, if you're doubting,
you know, I'm not going to be able to afford it.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
How am I going to do yeah, have had to
overcome that.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Yeah, that yep, yep, yep, because well that's the thing too. Financially,
it's not something you could have done like three months ago, no,
because you were not in a financial position to move
out of Digger's Rest and move into Norcott. So what's changed?
I mean I already know, but I'm setting this up
for everybody else listening.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I know what's.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
So what has changed for you that has now put
you financially in that position?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
So I work obviously we're working radio together, but the
you know, the radio doesn't pay enough.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
No, can I just anyone listening? No, radio does not
pay enough. Okay, we do not make millions and millions
of dollars like people think we do. That's right, unless
we're doing a breakfast show or a national drive show. Exactly,
there we go.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yes, so we don't.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Well I certainly don't have you know, my radio doesn't
give me an income to actually move out. So I
was doing the mental health support work, which was you know,
which was an okay wage, but it was quite varied
with clients and everything like that, and that was taxing
on you too, That was taxing. It was it was
getting down I did. I loved my clients, but I
(05:37):
just felt like I was stuck on a loop and
I needed something fun and upbeat and something where I
could get paid for my personality.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I was like, come on.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
So I actually said to my sister, I'm like, right,
leaving mental support work and I'm going to find a
job that's fun. And she goes, oh, okay, like what
are you going to do? And I go, well, the
only job I can think of that would be fun
with be a tool guide And she goes, you know,
sometimes you just got to take a job that pays
nine to five to pay the bills, and I I
am not working like that will kill me. So I
(06:10):
needed a job that was going to enable me financially
to move out, but it had to be fun if
I was going to spend my time.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
What are you laughing?
Speaker 5 (06:18):
No, I was just going to say, can can you
share with everybody how you came to figure out that
a tool guide Because this is the funniest thing in
the world, right, how you figured out to like being
a tool guide would be something that would work for you.
Don't want me to remind you, yes, chat GPT.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
No, hang on, No, I'd already decided and I put
it in chat GPT I can and she would she
he whatever it is, it yes, according to your star chart,
because the astrology chart, a tool guide would be perfect
for you as long as you can incorporate some spiritual
and I was like, yeah, I can do this.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
I get meditated while you're driving a bus, that's right.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I don't recommend that.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
So I so I said to my sister about doing
this tool guide job, and you know, she's like, basically like,
you know, sometimes you just got job payerills and I'm like, no,
it's not happening. I'm at that point in my life
where I want something that's going to make me feel good.
And so I typed in, what is a fun job?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yep? And the very first job.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
That came up was a tool guide and I was like,
oh my god. And it said do you want a
fun job that is flexible and a fantastic culture And
I was like, yep, yep, yep, yep. So I applied
for the job and the company happens to be based
in Northgate.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Oh there you go. So anyway, I send off an application.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Now I haven't been a tool guide before, but I've
done stuff, you know, with groups and everything like that.
I've done a lot of travel, so I feel like
the application and with like a week later, I hadn't
heard anything, and I'm like, right, I need to follow
this up.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I've gotta move. I need to move.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
So I I contacted them and they said if HRS interested,
they'll give you a call, and I was like.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
That's not good enough. I'm not accepting that.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
No, So this idea came to me that I need
to do a video of me being a tour guide
and I'm like, beautiful, I'm going to do that. So
the next day I went down Digger's Rest and there's
actually a lot of historical locations in Digger's Rest, that's right.
So I went down and filmed like a three and
a half minute video and I.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Sent it off to them.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I sent off to them, and a couple of hours later,
I get a phone call saying, hey, we got your video.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
When can he come in?
Speaker 4 (08:47):
And I was like yes, yes, And I had Manny
with me so he heard everything that was going on.
And then the guy said, do you want to come
in on Monday for an interview? And I'm like yeah,
fucking awesome, right, And at that stage, me and Manny
were looking for places in Fitzroi to live. That night,
we get back home and Manny said, mom, I don't
(09:08):
actually want to live in Fitzroy and I go, why not?
And he goes, because I want to live somewhere that's
near to a soccer ground.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
And I'm like, oh my god, where do you want
to live?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
And he goes, I actually want to live in northkit
and I go. I go, Manny, the place where I
got the job interview there in North Yeah, And I'm like,
oh my god, this is another sign. So I went
and had the job the interview on the Monday, and
then he just pretty much said the interview is like,
you know, when can you start training?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
And I'm like, like.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
So have I got the I got the job, so
you know, you sent me a training schedule and everything
like that. I'm like, oh my fucking god, it's all
coming together. And then my sister sent me a apartment
in Northcote and I looked at the pictures and it
looked really bad and I was like, I don't know
about this, but I'll go. So anyway, a couple of
(09:58):
days later, I go and oh no, this was actually
it was probably two weeks after, so I go to
the I go to the open inspection day and there
was a few other ladies that went through, and I
could hear that some of them had partners, and I thought,
oh fuck, I don't know how this is going to
go for me, like being on a single wage, I
(10:20):
don't know what's going to look like. Anyway, I went
through the apartment. I thought this is actually really cute yep,
and I said to the guy, I'm going to apply.
And then so I submitted my application. And at that stage,
I just started training for my job YEP. And I
was out on location and I get this call saying,
(10:41):
you know, we're interested in putting our application through. Have
you got the bond da dada? And I said yeah,
I do, and they go, okay, we're going to submit it.
And I was like, okay, cool, and he goes, we'll
get back to you, and I said, all right now.
It's ten minutes later he called. I said the apartment's yours,
and I was like, oh my.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
God, fantastic. So clearly all he had to do then
was just talk the landlord to get the clearance on it.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I saw that these other ladies had taken an application
as well, but again I'd done all of that internal work.
It was right near a tram line, it's right near
a train station. It was in an amazing location. I
had literally been seeing it every day and feeling it
every day. But I'd also been spending a lot of
time in the area and claiming it. So I would
(11:25):
go down in North Girt and I'd be like, yes,
this is where I live, this is where I li
and I would just imprint that into my nervous system.
So I'm down there and it feels like home.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yeah, do you know what I mean? So yeah, So.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Well there's I'm right into manifesting, but just asking and surrendering.
I think there's a lot more work that needs to
go on, and you need to activate your brain, your
nervous system, everything, like really build that into your body.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
So it's all just come together.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Oh man, I've just when you told me all this,
I was so excited for you because I know how
hard you've been working towards this. Yeah, and for it
to finally happen, like there'd be so much peace come
over you so much today.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yeah, And I mean, you know, been.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
There, done that, not exactly what you know, the whole
starting again and starting from scratch.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yeah, you know, and I mean our listeners know to
like just how sad I have felt. That's right, living
away from my sons. Yeah, and I just I've just
you know, I've cried a couple of times, but of
happiness because I'm in the Vicinity. I'm literally five minute
drive from where their dad lives. Yeah, so my two
(12:44):
oldest I mean, I'm moved, not expecting to see them
all the time anywhere. They're seventeen and twenty. But my
seventeen year old has been over a few times. Yeah,
like where he hangs out. It's just in my place.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Fantastic.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
And so is Manny living with you or was living
partly with you and partly with his dad.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yeah, so he still does fifty to fifty yep, but
his girlfriend lives in North cad He's got friends in
North cab Yeah. So yeah, it's just a perfect spot.
And I've messaged my oldest son, I'm like, hey, when
do you want to come over?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
But I haven't heard from him.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Well, you know, well I'll keep following up.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Jess for all, Oh, it took me for evident, Well
even now sometimes trying to get ahold of her.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, that's been going on. I think
we might have spoken about it. Did we speak about
my dad's got lung cancer? No?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
No?
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Yeah, So he's actually been diagnosed stage street to four
lung cancer. So he's been in and out of hospital
quite a bit, and he doesn't want to do treatment.
He's nearly seventy six. He just feels like, you know,
what's the point. And I know it might be sort
of easy to go well, there's so many things to
(13:55):
live for, but I kind of get it when you
get to that age you think, what's the point of
doing all this treatment and experiencing all.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
The side effects? That's it.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
That's it, And then you know, I might be passing
away in a couple of years anyway, And how.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Can you enjoy life when you're either constantly sick or
you know, you're constantly tired or I get it, you know,
And I also understand, you know, being around longer, but
I also get you know, like the pain he's going
through and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yeah, So we're just really just trying to support him
to live the way that he wants to live, Like
We've just been really clear with him and just said, Dad,
we just don't want you to feel guilty. We don't
If you don't want treatment, that's okay, Yeah, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
We don't want you to.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Feel like you have to live just because we're going
to be sad if you're not here. We want you
to live out your life in a way that makes
you feel good. And he's got a really beautiful partner
and he's been staying with her and she's just so sweet.
She just looks after him like in the old fashioned way,
(15:13):
making him dinner and getting him to bed, and she's
just beautiful. I went to see him in the hospital
the other day and she was there and she's been
staying there. So there's like a single pull out couch
and it looks quite uncomfortable, and she's like, oh no,
I just I wouldn't leave your dad. You know, it
was staking you every night with him, and I'm like,
this is so gorgeous. So yeah, So it's heartbreaking for her,
(15:38):
you know, and for my sisters too because they've.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Got young kids. And well, that's it.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
My younger sister said, you know, if he does pass away,
like she feels like they're going to be robbed of
for Grandpa. And my middle sister Raoul and her son
Jack are really I mean, we're all close with dad,
but they've got this really special relationship because Jack doesn't
really see his dad, So our dad's been like that
(16:03):
male figure. Yeah, you know, predominantly he still does see
his dad, but they've got this really special bond. So yeah,
that's that's tough for her at the moment. But yeah,
so there's lots of things going on.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
You're right, so your.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Dad being sick, then yes, this would have obviously taken
a huge amount of pressure off him.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Like does he.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Is he feeling we do say this that ask this question.
I was gonna say, is he feeling better about his decision?
Knowing you guys have accepted it.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I feel like in some way he has, you know,
because we could tell that he was feeling guilty. He's
just like, you know, I just I don't want the treatment.
I don't want this. And you know, the way that
he was saying it made me actually say, Dad, it's okay,
Like we don't want you to feel guilty about your decisions.
It's your body, it's your life, you know, And we're
(17:00):
very spiritual, you know. I think that when you feel
that calling to transition, only.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
You know that that's right, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
So he does say things like he feels like it's
coming to an end, and so it's kind of hard
to hear. But you know, I also think, well, but
I believe in that stuff. I believe that people know
when their time is up, you know, they they feel
(17:30):
like they're being called to somewhere else. So I want
to respect that and support that for him.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Now, I know it's not easy for you, But do
you feel like this is going to be easier for
you than your sisters because of your beliefs.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
I just feel like it might be easier because my
kids are older, because my sisters are both very spiritual
as well. But I just feel that, you know, my
kids have had a lot of time with par and
(18:05):
you know, they're at that stage where they're doing their
own thing, whereas their kids are young and still wanting
that interaction with their path. You know, they get excited
to see him. So I feel like that's what's going
to make it hard.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
See, I get that too, because, like Liam was very
young when my mom passed away, and she was the
last one of his grandparents to go, so he didn't
really know his grandparents on his dad's side. And again
because we were living overseas and my father and law
passed away while we were overseas, and then my mother
(18:42):
in law ended up like in a nursing home, and
so he didn't really know them. With my dad like
he was only it was like eighteen months or something
when my dad passed away. So my mum is the
only grandparent, not great grandparent, but grandparent that he's known.
But even then, like she would have, he was about five,
(19:02):
I think final six when she passed away, so he
does have some memories of her, but not a lot.
And he used to spend a lot of time with
her because she was living with us. You know, he'd
be watching something on TV and she'd be reading or
knitting or whatever, or she'd be watching the movie with him,
you know. So he did spend a lot of time
with her in that respect. But then there were my grandparents,
so my grandparents were still alive. He got to know
(19:25):
them a little bit, but not a lot because I
didn't spend a lot of time with my grandparents. So
I get where your sisters are coming. From as far
as having that grandparent for the kids.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, it is. It's a hard time.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
I mean I just look, I feel in some ways,
I feel some peace because of what I believe in.
You know, A long time ago, it was just like, oh,
death's final and that's it.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
You know.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I was brought up Catholic and it was just I
don't know, you just had Heaven and Helen and that
was it. There was no talk of reincarnation, there was
no talk of we're all consciousness and all that sort
of stuff. And I just see the world differently now,
and I just see, well, my belief is that, you know,
people do transform. And it's interesting too with my job
(20:11):
being a tool guide, you know, a sort of spiritual component.
I incorporate a lot of Indigenous culture into the things
that we talk about, and one of them is we
go out to this rainforest. And one of them is
that in indigenous culture, trees are the spirits of ancestors,
okay right, And in indigenous culture, you would never chop
(20:33):
down a tree without acknowledging it, okay, right, So what.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
You're going to say, you just never chopped down a tree.
I think there's a few people that need to hear that.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
And you only take what you need because they're all spirits.
So when you're walking through the rainforest, it's alive. So
you know, I sort of I look at things now
and go, oh my god, Like my dad could come
back as a tree.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Do you know how you can make that happen?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Have you seen?
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Have you seen those pods? So yes, because I thought
about doing that, right, So when you pass away, you
get put in a pod and you get planted in
the ground and a tree grows out.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
You love that.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I love that because I want my ashes to be
sprinkled like down the Ovens River and there's some beautiful
trees down there as well, down there, because I think
it'll just merge into.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
The trunk of the tree the leaves. Yes, yeah, so yeah, yeah.
So that's it. That's where I met at the moment.
What about you? What has been going on for you?
I'm tired, tired? Oh man.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
We'll find out in the next episode why you've.
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
Let's go. This is funny.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Sitting across I feel like we should be playing.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Cards or something, and I think I've got some in
my bay.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Have you really not playing cards? I've got you know,
those cards that we Oh my god, here we go,
here we go away.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
It's not the microphone, it's the head. There was something
going on.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
You had them sitting the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I did. Yeah, And then I can hear I've reached out.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Is that a good thing.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
He's a good thing, Tony. We're back.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
We're back.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
We're back.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Well, I mean we have been back each week anyway.
We've just had guests with us. But now it's just
you and me, baby, It's just you and I and
I don't know what's been going on between us because
the two of us are both wearing burgundy top and
we've got our granny jumpers on.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I can't. I actually can't believe you.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
I mean, we used to do this with Steph all
the time. We'd become in coordinated colors.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
We haven't lost our touch, we haven't Steph here, We
still We've still got We've still got a baby.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
We're going to send Steph a photo she's do you
know what, She's probably at home wearing the same things.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, probably, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
So every time we've caught up, we've had a guest.
So it's been a bit difficult for you and I
to do a proper catch up. Well we you and
I do proper catch ups away from the podcast, but
we've had a lot going on in our lives the
past few months. Yes, and it's stuff that we wanting
to share with our listeners. Yeah, I reckon you go firstly,
(01:57):
so because yours is probably a bit more exciting.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
What's happening in your life really has been Mine feels
jam packed at the moment, but in a really good way,
because you know, like I'm right into manifesting, and that
I've spent like the last probably six or seven months
really building internally this new world that I want to live,
and you're.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Living it, and I.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Know It's like it's like everything you've put up on
your vision board has basically happened your living side.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
That a vision board works.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Vision board and really doing the in a work because
you can say believe and receive, right, But if you
say that and then you're going, yeah, I want to
do this, But now I'm still going to happen to
ed Like, I've had to overcome the mental limitations that
I've been placing myself. So for me to move to
Digger's Rest in Northcotte is obviously financially like a big jump,
(02:52):
so I've had to build internally. I've had to expand
my nervous system so that I'm able to earn more
income yep, and except that lovingly.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Without going oh no, I'm not worthy of this or whatever.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
So building the self worth to go, yes, that's okay,
If I earn X amount of dollars a week, that's
totally fine. And to be able to live in the
space and feel comfortable doing it. So there's been so
much work. My sisters saw me every day just meditating,
and I would just lay in bed and I would
build that vision. I would even do things tea where
I was literally hearing a tram. So I imagine that
(03:28):
there was a tram going past my place and I
would hear the ding ding ding ding, So I would
do that, and I would even play sounds of the
tram right on YouTube and I'd play that.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
So this is the this is obviously there's no tram
and Digger's rest. So you're playing sound effects of a
tram as if you are living in Northcote. Yes, yes, yes,
so I've got to play wave noises and ocean sounds, do.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
That everything you can to make it that really internally. Now,
when I wake up in the morning, yep. So I'm
in North Kote. When I wake up in the morning,
I hear the tram every single morning.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Not embedded in your brain from listening to it, and
it's real.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
It's real, And I give a fist pump and I go, yes,
I did it, I did it.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I did it.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
So yeah, there was a lot of internal work that
went on to actually give it. You know, people would
just go, yeah, you can move and whatever. But if
you don't have that self worth, self belief, if you're doubting,
you know, I'm not going to be able to afford it.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
How am I going to do yeah, have had to
overcome that.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Yeah, that yep, yep, yep, because well that's the thing too. Financially,
it's not something you could have done like three months ago, no,
because you were not in a financial position to move
out of Digger's Rest and move into Norcott. So what's changed?
I mean I already know, but I'm setting this up
for everybody else listening.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I know what's.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
So what has changed for you that has now put
you financially in that position?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
So I work obviously we're working radio together, but the
you know, the radio doesn't pay enough.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
No, can I just anyone listening? No, radio does not
pay enough. Okay, we do not make millions and millions
of dollars like people think we do. That's right, unless
we're doing a breakfast show or a national drive show. Exactly,
there we go.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yes, so we don't.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Well I certainly don't have you know, my radio doesn't
give me an income to actually move out. So I
was doing the mental health support work, which was you know,
which was an okay wage, but it was quite varied
with clients and everything like that, and that was taxing
on you too, That was taxing. It was it was
getting down I did. I loved my clients, but I
(05:37):
just felt like I was stuck on a loop and
I needed something fun and upbeat and something where I
could get paid for my personality.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I was like, come on.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
So I actually said to my sister, I'm like, right,
leaving mental support work and I'm going to find a
job that's fun. And she goes, oh, okay, like what
are you going to do? And I go, well, the
only job I can think of that would be fun
with be a tool guide And she goes, you know,
sometimes you just got to take a job that pays
nine to five to pay the bills, and I I
am not working like that will kill me. So I
(06:10):
needed a job that was going to enable me financially
to move out, but it had to be fun if
I was going to spend my time.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
What are you laughing?
Speaker 5 (06:18):
No, I was just going to say, can can you
share with everybody how you came to figure out that
a tool guide Because this is the funniest thing in
the world, right, how you figured out to like being
a tool guide would be something that would work for you.
Don't want me to remind you, yes, chat GPT.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
No, hang on, No, I'd already decided and I put
it in chat GPT I can and she would she
he whatever it is, it yes, according to your star chart,
because the astrology chart, a tool guide would be perfect
for you as long as you can incorporate some spiritual
and I was like, yeah, I can do this.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
I get meditated while you're driving a bus, that's right.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I don't recommend that.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
So I so I said to my sister about doing
this tool guide job, and you know, she's like, basically like,
you know, sometimes you just got job payerills and I'm like, no,
it's not happening. I'm at that point in my life
where I want something that's going to make me feel good.
And so I typed in, what is a fun job?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yep? And the very first job.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
That came up was a tool guide and I was like,
oh my god. And it said do you want a
fun job that is flexible and a fantastic culture And
I was like, yep, yep, yep, yep. So I applied
for the job and the company happens to be based
in Northgate.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Oh there you go. So anyway, I send off an application.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Now I haven't been a tool guide before, but I've
done stuff, you know, with groups and everything like that.
I've done a lot of travel, so I feel like
the application and with like a week later, I hadn't
heard anything, and I'm like, right, I need to follow
this up.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I've gotta move. I need to move.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
So I I contacted them and they said if HRS interested,
they'll give you a call, and I was like.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
That's not good enough. I'm not accepting that.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
No, So this idea came to me that I need
to do a video of me being a tour guide
and I'm like, beautiful, I'm going to do that. So
the next day I went down Digger's Rest and there's
actually a lot of historical locations in Digger's Rest, that's right.
So I went down and filmed like a three and
a half minute video and I.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Sent it off to them.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I sent off to them, and a couple of hours later,
I get a phone call saying, hey, we got your video.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
When can he come in?
Speaker 4 (08:47):
And I was like yes, yes, And I had Manny
with me so he heard everything that was going on.
And then the guy said, do you want to come
in on Monday for an interview? And I'm like yeah,
fucking awesome, right, And at that stage, me and Manny
were looking for places in Fitzroi to live. That night,
we get back home and Manny said, mom, I don't
(09:08):
actually want to live in Fitzroy and I go, why not?
And he goes, because I want to live somewhere that's
near to a soccer ground.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
And I'm like, oh my god, where do you want
to live?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
And he goes, I actually want to live in northkit
and I go. I go, Manny, the place where I
got the job interview there in North Yeah, And I'm like,
oh my god, this is another sign. So I went
and had the job the interview on the Monday, and
then he just pretty much said the interview is like,
you know, when can you start training?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
And I'm like, like.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
So have I got the I got the job, so
you know, you sent me a training schedule and everything
like that. I'm like, oh my fucking god, it's all
coming together. And then my sister sent me a apartment
in Northcote and I looked at the pictures and it
looked really bad and I was like, I don't know
about this, but I'll go. So anyway, a couple of
(09:58):
days later, I go and oh no, this was actually
it was probably two weeks after, so I go to
the I go to the open inspection day and there
was a few other ladies that went through, and I
could hear that some of them had partners, and I thought,
oh fuck, I don't know how this is going to
go for me, like being on a single wage, I
(10:20):
don't know what's going to look like. Anyway, I went
through the apartment. I thought this is actually really cute yep,
and I said to the guy, I'm going to apply.
And then so I submitted my application. And at that stage,
I just started training for my job YEP. And I
was out on location and I get this call saying,
(10:41):
you know, we're interested in putting our application through. Have
you got the bond da dada? And I said yeah,
I do, and they go, okay, we're going to submit it.
And I was like, okay, cool, and he goes, we'll
get back to you, and I said, all right now.
It's ten minutes later he called. I said the apartment's yours,
and I was like, oh my.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
God, fantastic. So clearly all he had to do then
was just talk the landlord to get the clearance on it.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I saw that these other ladies had taken an application
as well, but again I'd done all of that internal work.
It was right near a tram line, it's right near
a train station. It was in an amazing location. I
had literally been seeing it every day and feeling it
every day. But I'd also been spending a lot of
time in the area and claiming it. So I would
(11:25):
go down in North Girt and I'd be like, yes,
this is where I live, this is where I li
and I would just imprint that into my nervous system.
So I'm down there and it feels like home.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yeah, do you know what I mean? So yeah, So.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Well there's I'm right into manifesting, but just asking and surrendering.
I think there's a lot more work that needs to
go on, and you need to activate your brain, your
nervous system, everything, like really build that into your body.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
So it's all just come together.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Oh man, I've just when you told me all this,
I was so excited for you because I know how
hard you've been working towards this. Yeah, and for it
to finally happen, like there'd be so much peace come
over you so much today.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yeah, And I mean, you know, been.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
There, done that, not exactly what you know, the whole
starting again and starting from scratch.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yeah, you know, and I mean our listeners know to
like just how sad I have felt. That's right, living
away from my sons. Yeah, and I just I've just
you know, I've cried a couple of times, but of
happiness because I'm in the Vicinity. I'm literally five minute
drive from where their dad lives. Yeah, so my two
(12:44):
oldest I mean, I'm moved, not expecting to see them
all the time anywhere. They're seventeen and twenty. But my
seventeen year old has been over a few times. Yeah,
like where he hangs out. It's just in my place.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Fantastic.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
And so is Manny living with you or was living
partly with you and partly with his dad.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yeah, so he still does fifty to fifty yep, but
his girlfriend lives in North cad He's got friends in
North cab Yeah. So yeah, it's just a perfect spot.
And I've messaged my oldest son, I'm like, hey, when
do you want to come over?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
But I haven't heard from him.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Well, you know, well I'll keep following up.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Jess for all, Oh, it took me for evident, Well
even now sometimes trying to get ahold of her.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, that's been going on. I think
we might have spoken about it. Did we speak about
my dad's got lung cancer? No?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
No?
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Yeah, So he's actually been diagnosed stage street to four
lung cancer. So he's been in and out of hospital
quite a bit, and he doesn't want to do treatment.
He's nearly seventy six. He just feels like, you know,
what's the point. And I know it might be sort
of easy to go well, there's so many things to
(13:55):
live for, but I kind of get it when you
get to that age you think, what's the point of
doing all this treatment and experiencing all.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
The side effects? That's it.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
That's it, And then you know, I might be passing
away in a couple of years anyway, And how.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Can you enjoy life when you're either constantly sick or
you know, you're constantly tired or I get it, you know,
And I also understand, you know, being around longer, but
I also get you know, like the pain he's going
through and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yeah, So we're just really just trying to support him
to live the way that he wants to live, Like
We've just been really clear with him and just said, Dad,
we just don't want you to feel guilty. We don't
If you don't want treatment, that's okay, Yeah, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
We don't want you to.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Feel like you have to live just because we're going
to be sad if you're not here. We want you
to live out your life in a way that makes
you feel good. And he's got a really beautiful partner
and he's been staying with her and she's just so sweet.
She just looks after him like in the old fashioned way,
(15:13):
making him dinner and getting him to bed, and she's
just beautiful. I went to see him in the hospital
the other day and she was there and she's been
staying there. So there's like a single pull out couch
and it looks quite uncomfortable, and she's like, oh no,
I just I wouldn't leave your dad. You know, it
was staking you every night with him, and I'm like,
this is so gorgeous. So yeah, So it's heartbreaking for her,
(15:38):
you know, and for my sisters too because they've.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Got young kids. And well, that's it.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
My younger sister said, you know, if he does pass away,
like she feels like they're going to be robbed of
for Grandpa. And my middle sister Raoul and her son
Jack are really I mean, we're all close with dad,
but they've got this really special relationship because Jack doesn't
really see his dad, So our dad's been like that
(16:03):
male figure. Yeah, you know, predominantly he still does see
his dad, but they've got this really special bond. So yeah,
that's that's tough for her at the moment. But yeah,
so there's lots of things going on.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
You're right, so your.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Dad being sick, then yes, this would have obviously taken
a huge amount of pressure off him.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Like does he.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Is he feeling we do say this that ask this question.
I was gonna say, is he feeling better about his decision?
Knowing you guys have accepted it.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I feel like in some way he has, you know,
because we could tell that he was feeling guilty. He's
just like, you know, I just I don't want the treatment.
I don't want this. And you know, the way that
he was saying it made me actually say, Dad, it's okay,
Like we don't want you to feel guilty about your decisions.
It's your body, it's your life, you know, And we're
(17:00):
very spiritual, you know. I think that when you feel
that calling to transition, only.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
You know that that's right, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
So he does say things like he feels like it's
coming to an end, and so it's kind of hard
to hear. But you know, I also think, well, but
I believe in that stuff. I believe that people know
when their time is up, you know, they they feel
(17:30):
like they're being called to somewhere else. So I want
to respect that and support that for him.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Now, I know it's not easy for you, But do
you feel like this is going to be easier for
you than your sisters because of your beliefs.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
I just feel like it might be easier because my
kids are older, because my sisters are both very spiritual
as well. But I just feel that, you know, my
kids have had a lot of time with par and
(18:05):
you know, they're at that stage where they're doing their
own thing, whereas their kids are young and still wanting
that interaction with their path. You know, they get excited
to see him. So I feel like that's what's going
to make it hard.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
See, I get that too, because, like Liam was very
young when my mom passed away, and she was the
last one of his grandparents to go, so he didn't
really know his grandparents on his dad's side. And again
because we were living overseas and my father and law
passed away while we were overseas, and then my mother
(18:42):
in law ended up like in a nursing home, and
so he didn't really know them. With my dad like
he was only it was like eighteen months or something
when my dad passed away. So my mum is the
only grandparent, not great grandparent, but grandparent that he's known.
But even then, like she would have, he was about five,
(19:02):
I think final six when she passed away, so he
does have some memories of her, but not a lot.
And he used to spend a lot of time with
her because she was living with us. You know, he'd
be watching something on TV and she'd be reading or
knitting or whatever, or she'd be watching the movie with him,
you know. So he did spend a lot of time
with her in that respect. But then there were my grandparents,
so my grandparents were still alive. He got to know
(19:25):
them a little bit, but not a lot because I
didn't spend a lot of time with my grandparents. So
I get where your sisters are coming. From as far
as having that grandparent for the kids.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, it is. It's a hard time.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
I mean I just look, I feel in some ways,
I feel some peace because of what I believe in.
You know, A long time ago, it was just like, oh,
death's final and that's it.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
You know.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I was brought up Catholic and it was just I
don't know, you just had Heaven and Helen and that
was it. There was no talk of reincarnation, there was
no talk of we're all consciousness and all that sort
of stuff. And I just see the world differently now,
and I just see, well, my belief is that, you know,
people do transform. And it's interesting too with my job
(20:11):
being a tool guide, you know, a sort of spiritual component.
I incorporate a lot of Indigenous culture into the things
that we talk about, and one of them is we
go out to this rainforest. And one of them is
that in indigenous culture, trees are the spirits of ancestors,
okay right, And in indigenous culture, you would never chop
(20:33):
down a tree without acknowledging it, okay, right, So what.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
You're going to say, you just never chopped down a tree.
I think there's a few people that need to hear that.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
And you only take what you need because they're all spirits.
So when you're walking through the rainforest, it's alive. So
you know, I sort of I look at things now
and go, oh my god, Like my dad could come
back as a tree.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Do you know how you can make that happen?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Have you seen?
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Have you seen those pods? So yes, because I thought
about doing that, right, So when you pass away, you
get put in a pod and you get planted in
the ground and a tree grows out.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
You love that.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I love that because I want my ashes to be
sprinkled like down the Ovens River and there's some beautiful
trees down there as well, down there, because I think
it'll just merge into.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
The trunk of the tree the leaves. Yes, yeah, so yeah, yeah.
So that's it. That's where I met at the moment.
What about you? What has been going on for you?
I'm tired, tired? Oh man.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
We'll find out in the next episode why you've.
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