June 23, 2025 • 22 mins
In this episode, Steph is back! After some time away focusing on motherhood, she joins us for a candid chat about the shift in how she approaches social media. Once comfortable sharing her life openly online, Steph now takes a more cautious and considered approach, carefully choosing what, if anything, she shares with the world.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Every day brings a new story. The wife isn't perfect,
but it's perfectly ours, with raw conversations, inspiring stories and
laugh until you cry moments we hit them. I unpack
it all and figure it out together, one episode at
a time. This is life as we know It, Unfiltered
with Tony Tanalia and Lisa Cameron Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Okay, so let's do this. Let's do it so we.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I'm laughing because we've got a special guest joining us.
But it's a guess that we have known for quite
a while. Yes, known for a long time. Yes, it's
funny to say she's now a guess. Don't know, it's weird,
it's exciting.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Step is back. Yes, now Steph with all our guests.
Oh no, you don't have one of these. Oh my god,
you really did get the one I brought her.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
In the mart.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I thought you weren't going to do it. Why did
you think I wasn't going to do it?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Because you said the way you said it.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
You're like, yeah, you know me, Yeah, I'll make you
think I'm not going to do something.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So we've worked out that gifts and surprises is actually
her real lovely Yeah, yes.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I could have told you that though, I reckon so
you always said words, but words are one of my
love languages as well.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, but then we worked out gift.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
It was, but it's only because all our guests come
in and we're given them a gift.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
But the gorgeousness in your excitement when you give a
gift not only for a guest, like for us, if
you get us things and it's really cutsy.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I put a lot of thought into it. I always
think about people and what I think people will like.
I'm hoping I get that right a lot of the time.
But you have this one, steph even they got a mark,
you don't have this mud.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I don't have this one.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
There, you've got a grammar. We could put a little
sticker of you on there.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
No, no, no, no, I like this one.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
It's cute and it's cool.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
See you can join me for my coffee, you know
that's it.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
You can join us.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I can join you whichever way around.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
So welcome.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I know, how cool is this?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
This is really cools like old times, doesn't it. It doesn't.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I'm dying to know what's been going on in your life.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Well, see, Lisa and I have let everybody know what's
going on with us, because we've had lots going on
in the last few months. So with you, yes, what's
going on with you?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Talk to us?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
I know, I know. I don't share anything. I am
like what it was? What is that? I'm like Houdini.
I'm just like disappeared off the face of the earth.
It's great.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
You used to be like on social media all the time.
Couldn't get you off it? Absolutely you don't have the time.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
No, And if you know, I used to share even
if I went to the toilet, like, I would share
that stuff. So it's gone from that to absolutely nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
It's great. Why is that? Why the change?
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Social media? For me has always been a tool to
promote myself. I always thought about myself, well, we all
do as a brand, and when social media was around
when it started, I think I was only eighteen with
Facebook and those sort of platforms, and then the like
(03:34):
pages came out. So I always use that as my
promotional tool tool. And I thought that I needed to
share my personal life as well because it all encumbassed.
But when I say personal life, my personal life was
my work life. I didn't have anything outside. I don't
think I ever went to. I can't tell you how
(03:54):
many Christmas is but Easters and special events that I
miss because I was or I prioritized being on air
or doing an interview, or it was that was me
and that you know. So this is a different identity,
and I feel like at the moment, in particular, I
just don't know how to show up because that version
(04:18):
of me has gone. So because my life now is
all personal, and now that I have a child, and
now that technology is advancing, like the scary AI and
everything like that.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Oh how bad is that getting? Now?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
That's crazy?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yeah, I just feel like this technological age has made
me rethink social media, especially in regards to my daughter.
This is just a narrative and it might change at
some point, but I always think about when my daughter
turns eighteen nineteen. We didn't have it when we were young.
(04:56):
We didn't share photos from when we were born all
the way up to eighteen. So on the internet, there's
no photos of me being five, six or seven years
old unless I have personally shared those photos. But now
what's happening and everybody has their own choice to do
so people are sharing a lots and lots of content
with their child, and I think that's fantastic. I just
(05:18):
because of where I've come from, I just see it
very differently. And I see it because I feel like
my daughter might turn around to me one day. What
if she turns around and says, Mum, why did you
share this stuff of me? Or why did I didn't
give you permission to do that. I know it sounds
really odd, but I'm really seeing my daughter. I know
(05:43):
it's really early, but I'm really seeing her into the
things that I was into music, and she's trying to
sing and she's just I just see so much of
me and her, and I know that the difference is
is that my mum wasn't from a musical background, so
she had no idea to do with me, whereas I
know how to navigate her through it. So my thing
(06:06):
at the back of my head is that what if
she has this talent and what if she and I
won't be able to stop her from being out there
then but she will be out there for her talent.
But then I always think, I know, so forward thinking,
but then what if she's this superstar and people are
pulling down photos of when she was in nappy or
whatever and resharing that I just, I just, I know
(06:29):
it sounds really weird, but I'm thinking this far into
the future.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Get what you say, It's like a protective instinct.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yeah, it's yeah, that's where my head's at with that
stuff at the moment. So because my life is all
with her and about her, that would be what I
would share. I feel weird because I'm happy to talk
about it. I'm happy to write a book about her.
I'm happy to do anything in regards to my personal life.
I'm happy to share it. I just don't want in
(06:56):
a photo and I don't know why. I just feel
like it's just there's a permanence in it that I
can't get my head around. Plus I'm not visual, so
I don't connect to photos as well as I connect
to stories.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
But the other thing too with photos is and this
generation of AI is what is I think making a
lot of people rethink about the types of photos that
they put up. Correct because it's so easy to grab
one of those photos, throw it into an AI generator
app whatever, Yeah, and just totally change the narrative of
(07:29):
what that photo's about.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
And with kids as well, like they can put you
on sides. You just don't know what's going on, and
I don't want to live my life in fear in
that respect, but I am thinking ahead in the way
because I just know, just my gut feeling, just the
way she's going. I just know that there's something, there's
(07:51):
a talent there, and I know something's going to happen.
So I'm very mindful of it now. And again it
might not be that thing, but it's just a Mama
Bear protective nature because of I guess what I've been
through in the industry. You know, people groom you you know,
there's a lot of weird people on life, especially for kids.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Well, you know what, It's interesting that you're saying that
because as you say that, it's reminded me of something
that was said to me the other day. So Liam, okay,
Liam doesn't come to the soccer club or you know,
he'll come out and do things with me. But somebody
at the soccer club made a comment to me about
seeing him walking around where we live, right wow, And
(08:36):
my first thought was, hang on, how do you know
what he looks like? And then I thought, okay, you
would have seen photos of us going out to places. Now,
he's fine for me to post that stuff, right, He
just doesn't want me to tag him in them, which
is fair enough and I never do. But it then
just got me thinking and based on what you've just said,
then is like, hang on a second. People know what
(08:57):
he looks like and if they're in the area and
they see him, they will recognize him. And part of
me went, oh, that's cool, but at the same time went,
hang on, is that a bit creepy?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Like is that a bit stalker ish?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
And I know it's not, yeah, but you know what
I mean. But just as you're saying that, and like
you know, people putting photos of kids on crazy websites
and stuff like that, I was like, oh, hang on,
do I need to think twice about, you know, putting
up photos of Liam?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
And I yeah, yeah, I think yeah. It's it's really
it's a real tricky one because there is an age
of mum influencers and I you know, and I think,
whatever you're comfortable with, you should do it. Everybody's got
to do what they feel is right for them. That's it,
you know, because again I will share about it on
(09:45):
a podcast, but it's just it's just different. Everybody's going
to take a different.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Part I think ultimately, you just have to live by
what you yao, you as a mum and your family,
because I look at my kids grew up without a phone,
a computer, and a TV, right, and we did that
for fifteen years. It sounds crazy when I think about it,
but you know, I always sort of thought, there's going
to come a point where they want all those things, right,
(10:09):
but I'm going to make decisions based on what I
value at this point in time, and that was to
keep them as connected to nature as possible, and to
keep them as connected as to God, divine spirit, whatever
you want to call it, consciousness for as long as possible,
because it's such a beautiful age when they're young, when
(10:31):
they're just in this like pure state of consciousness, and
you know, they don't have this ego coming through, and
they're not worried about what other people are thinking and
everything like that, and it's just them with whatever thoughts
are coming streaming into them, and then they act those
out and they'll create those and I just think that's
such a beautiful time. And I didn't want the interference
(10:52):
of all of these external ideas coming in. Not external ideas,
because the world is full of ideas, but where you know,
the intentions aren't always that good behind it. You know,
like TV is purposely created to get you into this
really low frequency and then they can implement whatever they
want in there and then come to the ads and
(11:14):
everything like that. So I just wanted them to be
able to feel connected as possible for as long as possible,
you know. But they might look back and go, Mum,
I can't believe we didn't watch this. So you know,
they've asked me, they're like, what's this show or what?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Like?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
You can YouTube that now, you can google it now.
But I just made and you know their dad as well.
We just made decisions based on what we value at
that time. That's all you've got to work with. That's right.
You don't know what's going to happen in the future,
but for right now, this feels like the right thing
for me.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
So they're using social media and all sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Now, Yeah, they're like on Snapchat, they use that. My
middle one actually, funnily enough, he gets really bored on
the phone.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
That's what I was actually gonna ask you, is that
because they didn't have it for so long and now
they have access to it, did they go nuts and
go I'm just gonna live in this now or was
it a case of whatever I'm not. I wasn't like
I'm not you know, sucked in by it.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
They kind of went. And that's sort of like because
of COVID. That's why we had to get a computer
and a phone, and for them, you know, they did
all their online learning. And then when I moved out
to Digga's rest, there were TV's in the home there,
and you know that was fine. My sisters and all
that one. So that's what we did. So they did
get into it, but really interesting. Like my oldest he'll
(12:41):
watch movies online, but it doesn't really sit scrolling, is
not into that. He listens to classical music. He'll get
in the car and that's what I used to put
on for them before they went to bed classical music.
So he drives to classical music. And the middle one
connects with people through Snapchat, but he said he gets
so bored being on the phone. My youngest is probably
(13:02):
the most into it, Like he's fifteen, and he watched
TikTok videos and they you can see them just quickly
chatting to each other on Snapchat. Photo bank zench that's
how they connect. So yeah, it's probably my youngest is
the most on it.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Yeah, yeah, And I think, like I've had a few
it's interesting. I've had a few conversations because now I'm
I'm actually networking with a lot of mums. They're coming
into my life, which is great, but their view on
it is different. And I really love that they think
about social media as just a simple tool, like we
(13:39):
just you know, innocently sharing their family updates and like
that's beautiful. I really wish I could think like that.
I just can't, Like I just thinking so far ahead.
And maybe it's again, I just think it's because of
my background what I've chosen to do. I think I
would if that was my mom and she was you know,
(14:01):
even the random times she's shared on my birthday like
my little self, but oh, you know, it's my little
girl's eighteen. You know, she used to share that stuff
and sometimes like Mom, why'd you do that? Like you know,
So I think it's just a combination of a lot
of things. But again, this outlook would change. She's still
really young, she's only nineteen months old, so as she
(14:22):
gets older, maybe it'll change. So it's just where I'm
at now. I'm just really enjoying being totally offline and
just gone. I remember, I think it was one Christmas
there was an extended, extended, extended family member and he
came and he was like he actually asked me, He goes, oh,
you don't update on social media anymore? Like, are you okay?
(14:45):
It's really bizarre because it's all perception. Just because I'm
not hosting anything doesn't mean I'm I'm having meltdown. No,
I'm just really busy at the moment. Like there's actually
a lot of stuff to share, and I could write
stories and stories about what I've been through, but it's
just not the the time.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah, So do you do you have family that will
share photos of DEMI? Do you know? Okay, So they
don't because they're just not active, or they don't because
you don't want them to think.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I think they know how I feel, so they don't
do it.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I think I've been asked maybe once about it, and
that was when she was super, super young, and I
was like listen, like yeah, but yeah, they don't really Again,
you know, as she gets older, it's a little bit different.
Big occasions you can't stop it, but you know, I
just her everyday life, you know, because you can see
(15:36):
what park, you can see what you know, you just
don't know. I just feel like, you know, the Titanic
where it was like get the women and children into
the boats. Like I feel like women and children are
like the fragile people you know, around that We're protecting
these people. So I'm like this mama bear of the
child and like at the moment, I'm just like, no,
don't come near my cub, like this.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Is your cab. Yeah, you know, yeah, I love that feeling. Yeah, yeah,
I love that. Like I was felt like that with
my kids. It's just like.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
You know that times when they've got the little cubs
and they're always around the little cubs, and then when
they get older, it's a little bit more relaxed. But
now I'm just like that plaser focus this way.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
So I love it, and I love that you're living
in the nineties as well, Like that was my favorite
time where it was just no social media. There was nothing,
and you just live to connect with people in real
life and it was beautiful. It's great.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
It's so nice just having these experiences and just not
worrying about just any type of validation. I just you know,
the people who see me that know me, they can
call me or they can come see you. You know,
that's it.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, how is like life with Nick and Demi in general?
Like as a family? Like what are you noticing in Nick?
Like it puts sort of changes have you've seen in
him becoming it or being a dad?
Speaker 4 (16:59):
And yeah, I think I'm noticing that. He he's a
really hands on dad. I'm very very lucky. He is great.
He's we have a business where it's sort of all
or nothing, so there are times where he's either not
home at all or home a lot, and sometimes I'm like,
got out of the house, or even when I was
(17:20):
leaving today, he's like, I go, I want to take
Demi to the park. So I feel like he's come
into his own as a dad now. I feel like
he's so confident with her.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
He's just he's great.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Like, Yeah, I really love watching him develop as a dad, really,
especially to a little girl, because he's come from a
family of boys, so it's really softened him and changed
him a lot. So it's been really nice to see.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
He had other like with other family members. I mean
obviously his brothers don't have kids yet, but like, has
he has he been around other little girls?
Speaker 4 (17:58):
No, so this is like the first Yeah, yeah, so
this is so but he doesn't know how to handle.
He thinks their mood swings now, but I don't know,
I don't know what they are. But he's like, how
does she go from this to this? I'm like, I
think it's just a toddler thing. I don't know if
it's a girl thing, but girls are different expresses absolutely,
(18:22):
Like instead of attacking things, my daughter will just you know,
throw it head back and cry and cry and laugh.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
So it's a spectrum.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
So I might have to update you when she becomes
a teenager, different one.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
We will definitely going away through.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
No, it's great, Like I feel like we've really come
into our own. We're really enjoying this time now, like.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Because she's a little person.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah, that's just the personality.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
About exactly right. And we talked about like the terrible tooths,
which I hate. I hate that term the terrible twos
because I don't believe that that that that they're going
through the terrible tooths. Right for me, it's at two
years old, they've gone hang on, I can say no
if I want to personalities are coming. Yeah, it's not
terrible twos. No kids standing up for themselves.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Every stage is. I'm really just enjoying that every stage
has its beauty in it. Like us, there's pros and
cons to every age, every stage, every it's the same
with them, like, yes, these these are the these are
the not fun things about this time, but these are
the and the fun thing is always trumpet.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
You don't.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
You don't remember in twenty years time about when they
were screaming as a toddler. Maybe just those little funny stickies.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
And that's why you have more babies, that's true. You
forget about the pains and you're like, did that even happen?
And then you're going through and you're like, oh my god,
how did I forget about this?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Do you know how you can get ridded?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Cats?
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Cats my bloody will wake you at five o'clock in
the morning or wake you at two o'clock in the
morning because they see you roll over and get all
months awake. I might go and get her to give
me a pet. Yeah, that's how you get reminded of
what it's like to have a baby.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Get a few cats competing for attention with each other.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I saw my little nephews this morning. I don't need
to be reminded. Baby, they are so cute. And my
so Dusty is too just to want to be sweet
and he's at that like no, no, yeah, that's cute,
it's beautiful. And then little Reggie is like four months
(20:42):
and he's just like bubble, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Do you look at this stage and miss it when
you look back, or do you feel like I enjoy
it and I enjoy looking at it and I don't
want to do that again now, like I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah, I love being an auntie. And I feel like
with my sister, because I've probably said this before, my
younger sister, she like felt like my first baby. So
when I saw it today, I was like, how all
my babies? So I feel like an auntie and a
nana and a mom, Like I feel like all of
that in one. But I just look at that time
and I just think about how much I loved it
(21:18):
with the boys, Like I just thrived, you know, during
that time. So you know, I just always say to
my sister, I'm like, you can do a million jobs
that you love, but being a mom will just stays
in your heart forever, like it's for me, like the
best thing I've ever done. I mean, you know, I
(21:38):
know there's lots of things I haven't experienced before, but
being a mum was just I don't know.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
The love the love you have, Like you can love
your job, but this love for your kids different, completely different.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
What do you think about Like obviously I only have
one child right now, but what do you think about
when you give them siblings? Like what does that dynamic
look like when you do that?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
In our next episode with Steff, you're going to find
out the answer to that question. Episode two of two
with Steff coming up.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
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Every day brings a new story. The wife isn't perfect,
but it's perfectly ours, with raw conversations, inspiring stories and
laugh until you cry moments we hit them. I unpack
it all and figure it out together, one episode at
a time. This is life as we know It, Unfiltered
with Tony Tanalia and Lisa Cameron Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Okay, so let's do this. Let's do it so we.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I'm laughing because we've got a special guest joining us.
But it's a guess that we have known for quite
a while. Yes, known for a long time. Yes, it's
funny to say she's now a guess. Don't know, it's weird,
it's exciting.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Step is back. Yes, now Steph with all our guests.
Oh no, you don't have one of these. Oh my god,
you really did get the one I brought her.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
In the mart.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I thought you weren't going to do it. Why did
you think I wasn't going to do it?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Because you said the way you said it.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
You're like, yeah, you know me, Yeah, I'll make you
think I'm not going to do something.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So we've worked out that gifts and surprises is actually
her real lovely Yeah, yes.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I could have told you that though, I reckon so
you always said words, but words are one of my
love languages as well.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, but then we worked out gift.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
It was, but it's only because all our guests come
in and we're given them a gift.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
But the gorgeousness in your excitement when you give a
gift not only for a guest, like for us, if
you get us things and it's really cutsy.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I put a lot of thought into it. I always
think about people and what I think people will like.
I'm hoping I get that right a lot of the time.
But you have this one, steph even they got a mark,
you don't have this mud.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I don't have this one.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
There, you've got a grammar. We could put a little
sticker of you on there.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
No, no, no, no, I like this one.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
It's cute and it's cool.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
See you can join me for my coffee, you know
that's it.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
You can join us.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I can join you whichever way around.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
So welcome.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I know, how cool is this?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
This is really cools like old times, doesn't it. It doesn't.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I'm dying to know what's been going on in your life.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Well, see, Lisa and I have let everybody know what's
going on with us, because we've had lots going on
in the last few months. So with you, yes, what's
going on with you?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Talk to us?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
I know, I know. I don't share anything. I am
like what it was? What is that? I'm like Houdini.
I'm just like disappeared off the face of the earth.
It's great.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
You used to be like on social media all the time.
Couldn't get you off it? Absolutely you don't have the time.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
No, And if you know, I used to share even
if I went to the toilet, like, I would share
that stuff. So it's gone from that to absolutely nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
It's great. Why is that? Why the change?
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Social media? For me has always been a tool to
promote myself. I always thought about myself, well, we all
do as a brand, and when social media was around
when it started, I think I was only eighteen with
Facebook and those sort of platforms, and then the like
(03:34):
pages came out. So I always use that as my
promotional tool tool. And I thought that I needed to
share my personal life as well because it all encumbassed.
But when I say personal life, my personal life was
my work life. I didn't have anything outside. I don't
think I ever went to. I can't tell you how
(03:54):
many Christmas is but Easters and special events that I
miss because I was or I prioritized being on air
or doing an interview, or it was that was me
and that you know. So this is a different identity,
and I feel like at the moment, in particular, I
just don't know how to show up because that version
(04:18):
of me has gone. So because my life now is
all personal, and now that I have a child, and
now that technology is advancing, like the scary AI and
everything like that.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Oh how bad is that getting? Now?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
That's crazy?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yeah, I just feel like this technological age has made
me rethink social media, especially in regards to my daughter.
This is just a narrative and it might change at
some point, but I always think about when my daughter
turns eighteen nineteen. We didn't have it when we were young.
(04:56):
We didn't share photos from when we were born all
the way up to eighteen. So on the internet, there's
no photos of me being five, six or seven years
old unless I have personally shared those photos. But now
what's happening and everybody has their own choice to do
so people are sharing a lots and lots of content
with their child, and I think that's fantastic. I just
(05:18):
because of where I've come from, I just see it
very differently. And I see it because I feel like
my daughter might turn around to me one day. What
if she turns around and says, Mum, why did you
share this stuff of me? Or why did I didn't
give you permission to do that. I know it sounds
really odd, but I'm really seeing my daughter. I know
(05:43):
it's really early, but I'm really seeing her into the
things that I was into music, and she's trying to
sing and she's just I just see so much of
me and her, and I know that the difference is
is that my mum wasn't from a musical background, so
she had no idea to do with me, whereas I
know how to navigate her through it. So my thing
(06:06):
at the back of my head is that what if
she has this talent and what if she and I
won't be able to stop her from being out there
then but she will be out there for her talent.
But then I always think, I know, so forward thinking,
but then what if she's this superstar and people are
pulling down photos of when she was in nappy or
whatever and resharing that I just, I just, I know
(06:29):
it sounds really weird, but I'm thinking this far into
the future.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Get what you say, It's like a protective instinct.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yeah, it's yeah, that's where my head's at with that
stuff at the moment. So because my life is all
with her and about her, that would be what I
would share. I feel weird because I'm happy to talk
about it. I'm happy to write a book about her.
I'm happy to do anything in regards to my personal life.
I'm happy to share it. I just don't want in
(06:56):
a photo and I don't know why. I just feel
like it's just there's a permanence in it that I
can't get my head around. Plus I'm not visual, so
I don't connect to photos as well as I connect
to stories.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
But the other thing too with photos is and this
generation of AI is what is I think making a
lot of people rethink about the types of photos that
they put up. Correct because it's so easy to grab
one of those photos, throw it into an AI generator
app whatever, Yeah, and just totally change the narrative of
(07:29):
what that photo's about.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
And with kids as well, like they can put you
on sides. You just don't know what's going on, and
I don't want to live my life in fear in
that respect, but I am thinking ahead in the way
because I just know, just my gut feeling, just the
way she's going. I just know that there's something, there's
(07:51):
a talent there, and I know something's going to happen.
So I'm very mindful of it now. And again it
might not be that thing, but it's just a Mama
Bear protective nature because of I guess what I've been
through in the industry. You know, people groom you you know,
there's a lot of weird people on life, especially for kids.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Well, you know what, It's interesting that you're saying that
because as you say that, it's reminded me of something
that was said to me the other day. So Liam, okay,
Liam doesn't come to the soccer club or you know,
he'll come out and do things with me. But somebody
at the soccer club made a comment to me about
seeing him walking around where we live, right wow, And
(08:36):
my first thought was, hang on, how do you know
what he looks like? And then I thought, okay, you
would have seen photos of us going out to places. Now,
he's fine for me to post that stuff, right, He
just doesn't want me to tag him in them, which
is fair enough and I never do. But it then
just got me thinking and based on what you've just said,
then is like, hang on a second. People know what
(08:57):
he looks like and if they're in the area and
they see him, they will recognize him. And part of
me went, oh, that's cool, but at the same time went,
hang on, is that a bit creepy?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Like is that a bit stalker ish?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
And I know it's not, yeah, but you know what
I mean. But just as you're saying that, and like
you know, people putting photos of kids on crazy websites
and stuff like that, I was like, oh, hang on,
do I need to think twice about, you know, putting
up photos of Liam?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
And I yeah, yeah, I think yeah. It's it's really
it's a real tricky one because there is an age
of mum influencers and I you know, and I think,
whatever you're comfortable with, you should do it. Everybody's got
to do what they feel is right for them. That's it,
you know, because again I will share about it on
(09:45):
a podcast, but it's just it's just different. Everybody's going
to take a different.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Part I think ultimately, you just have to live by
what you yao, you as a mum and your family,
because I look at my kids grew up without a phone,
a computer, and a TV, right, and we did that
for fifteen years. It sounds crazy when I think about it,
but you know, I always sort of thought, there's going
to come a point where they want all those things, right,
(10:09):
but I'm going to make decisions based on what I
value at this point in time, and that was to
keep them as connected to nature as possible, and to
keep them as connected as to God, divine spirit, whatever
you want to call it, consciousness for as long as possible,
because it's such a beautiful age when they're young, when
(10:31):
they're just in this like pure state of consciousness, and
you know, they don't have this ego coming through, and
they're not worried about what other people are thinking and
everything like that, and it's just them with whatever thoughts
are coming streaming into them, and then they act those
out and they'll create those and I just think that's
such a beautiful time. And I didn't want the interference
(10:52):
of all of these external ideas coming in. Not external ideas,
because the world is full of ideas, but where you know,
the intentions aren't always that good behind it. You know,
like TV is purposely created to get you into this
really low frequency and then they can implement whatever they
want in there and then come to the ads and
(11:14):
everything like that. So I just wanted them to be
able to feel connected as possible for as long as possible,
you know. But they might look back and go, Mum,
I can't believe we didn't watch this. So you know,
they've asked me, they're like, what's this show or what?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Like?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
You can YouTube that now, you can google it now.
But I just made and you know their dad as well.
We just made decisions based on what we value at
that time. That's all you've got to work with. That's right.
You don't know what's going to happen in the future,
but for right now, this feels like the right thing
for me.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
So they're using social media and all sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Now, Yeah, they're like on Snapchat, they use that. My
middle one actually, funnily enough, he gets really bored on
the phone.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
That's what I was actually gonna ask you, is that
because they didn't have it for so long and now
they have access to it, did they go nuts and
go I'm just gonna live in this now or was
it a case of whatever I'm not. I wasn't like
I'm not you know, sucked in by it.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
They kind of went. And that's sort of like because
of COVID. That's why we had to get a computer
and a phone, and for them, you know, they did
all their online learning. And then when I moved out
to Digga's rest, there were TV's in the home there,
and you know that was fine. My sisters and all
that one. So that's what we did. So they did
get into it, but really interesting. Like my oldest he'll
(12:41):
watch movies online, but it doesn't really sit scrolling, is
not into that. He listens to classical music. He'll get
in the car and that's what I used to put
on for them before they went to bed classical music.
So he drives to classical music. And the middle one
connects with people through Snapchat, but he said he gets
so bored being on the phone. My youngest is probably
(13:02):
the most into it, Like he's fifteen, and he watched
TikTok videos and they you can see them just quickly
chatting to each other on Snapchat. Photo bank zench that's
how they connect. So yeah, it's probably my youngest is
the most on it.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Yeah, yeah, And I think, like I've had a few
it's interesting. I've had a few conversations because now I'm
I'm actually networking with a lot of mums. They're coming
into my life, which is great, but their view on
it is different. And I really love that they think
about social media as just a simple tool, like we
(13:39):
just you know, innocently sharing their family updates and like
that's beautiful. I really wish I could think like that.
I just can't, Like I just thinking so far ahead.
And maybe it's again, I just think it's because of
my background what I've chosen to do. I think I
would if that was my mom and she was you know,
(14:01):
even the random times she's shared on my birthday like
my little self, but oh, you know, it's my little
girl's eighteen. You know, she used to share that stuff
and sometimes like Mom, why'd you do that? Like you know,
So I think it's just a combination of a lot
of things. But again, this outlook would change. She's still
really young, she's only nineteen months old, so as she
(14:22):
gets older, maybe it'll change. So it's just where I'm
at now. I'm just really enjoying being totally offline and
just gone. I remember, I think it was one Christmas
there was an extended, extended, extended family member and he
came and he was like he actually asked me, He goes, oh,
you don't update on social media anymore? Like, are you okay?
(14:45):
It's really bizarre because it's all perception. Just because I'm
not hosting anything doesn't mean I'm I'm having meltdown. No,
I'm just really busy at the moment. Like there's actually
a lot of stuff to share, and I could write
stories and stories about what I've been through, but it's
just not the the time.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah, So do you do you have family that will
share photos of DEMI? Do you know? Okay, So they
don't because they're just not active, or they don't because
you don't want them to think.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I think they know how I feel, so they don't
do it.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I think I've been asked maybe once about it, and
that was when she was super, super young, and I
was like listen, like yeah, but yeah, they don't really Again,
you know, as she gets older, it's a little bit different.
Big occasions you can't stop it, but you know, I
just her everyday life, you know, because you can see
(15:36):
what park, you can see what you know, you just
don't know. I just feel like, you know, the Titanic
where it was like get the women and children into
the boats. Like I feel like women and children are
like the fragile people you know, around that We're protecting
these people. So I'm like this mama bear of the
child and like at the moment, I'm just like, no,
don't come near my cub, like this.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Is your cab. Yeah, you know, yeah, I love that feeling. Yeah, yeah,
I love that. Like I was felt like that with
my kids. It's just like.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
You know that times when they've got the little cubs
and they're always around the little cubs, and then when
they get older, it's a little bit more relaxed. But
now I'm just like that plaser focus this way.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
So I love it, and I love that you're living
in the nineties as well, Like that was my favorite
time where it was just no social media. There was nothing,
and you just live to connect with people in real
life and it was beautiful. It's great.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
It's so nice just having these experiences and just not
worrying about just any type of validation. I just you know,
the people who see me that know me, they can
call me or they can come see you. You know,
that's it.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, how is like life with Nick and Demi in general?
Like as a family? Like what are you noticing in Nick?
Like it puts sort of changes have you've seen in
him becoming it or being a dad?
Speaker 4 (16:59):
And yeah, I think I'm noticing that. He he's a
really hands on dad. I'm very very lucky. He is great.
He's we have a business where it's sort of all
or nothing, so there are times where he's either not
home at all or home a lot, and sometimes I'm like,
got out of the house, or even when I was
(17:20):
leaving today, he's like, I go, I want to take
Demi to the park. So I feel like he's come
into his own as a dad now. I feel like
he's so confident with her.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
He's just he's great.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Like, Yeah, I really love watching him develop as a dad, really,
especially to a little girl, because he's come from a
family of boys, so it's really softened him and changed
him a lot. So it's been really nice to see.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
He had other like with other family members. I mean
obviously his brothers don't have kids yet, but like, has
he has he been around other little girls?
Speaker 4 (17:58):
No, so this is like the first Yeah, yeah, so
this is so but he doesn't know how to handle.
He thinks their mood swings now, but I don't know,
I don't know what they are. But he's like, how
does she go from this to this? I'm like, I
think it's just a toddler thing. I don't know if
it's a girl thing, but girls are different expresses absolutely,
(18:22):
Like instead of attacking things, my daughter will just you know,
throw it head back and cry and cry and laugh.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
So it's a spectrum.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
So I might have to update you when she becomes
a teenager, different one.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
We will definitely going away through.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
No, it's great, Like I feel like we've really come
into our own. We're really enjoying this time now, like.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Because she's a little person.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah, that's just the personality.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
About exactly right. And we talked about like the terrible tooths,
which I hate. I hate that term the terrible twos
because I don't believe that that that that they're going
through the terrible tooths. Right for me, it's at two
years old, they've gone hang on, I can say no
if I want to personalities are coming. Yeah, it's not
terrible twos. No kids standing up for themselves.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Every stage is. I'm really just enjoying that every stage
has its beauty in it. Like us, there's pros and
cons to every age, every stage, every it's the same
with them, like, yes, these these are the these are
the not fun things about this time, but these are
the and the fun thing is always trumpet.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
You don't.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
You don't remember in twenty years time about when they
were screaming as a toddler. Maybe just those little funny stickies.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
And that's why you have more babies, that's true. You
forget about the pains and you're like, did that even happen?
And then you're going through and you're like, oh my god,
how did I forget about this?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Do you know how you can get ridded?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Cats?
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Cats my bloody will wake you at five o'clock in
the morning or wake you at two o'clock in the
morning because they see you roll over and get all
months awake. I might go and get her to give
me a pet. Yeah, that's how you get reminded of
what it's like to have a baby.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Get a few cats competing for attention with each other.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I saw my little nephews this morning. I don't need
to be reminded. Baby, they are so cute. And my
so Dusty is too just to want to be sweet
and he's at that like no, no, yeah, that's cute,
it's beautiful. And then little Reggie is like four months
(20:42):
and he's just like bubble, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Do you look at this stage and miss it when
you look back, or do you feel like I enjoy
it and I enjoy looking at it and I don't
want to do that again now, like I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah, I love being an auntie. And I feel like
with my sister, because I've probably said this before, my
younger sister, she like felt like my first baby. So
when I saw it today, I was like, how all
my babies? So I feel like an auntie and a
nana and a mom, Like I feel like all of
that in one. But I just look at that time
and I just think about how much I loved it
(21:18):
with the boys, Like I just thrived, you know, during
that time. So you know, I just always say to
my sister, I'm like, you can do a million jobs
that you love, but being a mom will just stays
in your heart forever, like it's for me, like the
best thing I've ever done. I mean, you know, I
(21:38):
know there's lots of things I haven't experienced before, but
being a mum was just I don't know.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
The love the love you have, Like you can love
your job, but this love for your kids different, completely different.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
What do you think about Like obviously I only have
one child right now, but what do you think about
when you give them siblings? Like what does that dynamic
look like when you do that?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
In our next episode with Steff, you're going to find
out the answer to that question. Episode two of two
with Steff coming up.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
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