Life Beyond The Numbers

Life Beyond The Numbers

Are you curious about having a more fulfilling work-life? Do you believe in putting people first and in purpose; not profit at any cost? If so, this podcast is for you. We place a lens on the human side of work-life.


February 24, 2024 31 mins

"I delve into that in the book - the fact that none of us ever really know what's going on for someone else." Susan


In this solo episode I talk about my upcoming book, Leading Beyond the Numbers: How Accounting for Emotions Tips the Balance at Work. I talk about the inspiration behind the book. I read out some of the endorsements I have received to date. And I read some extracts from two separate chapters that include personal an...

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"If there's one huge piece of advice I can give, it's pick your lane and stay in it .... Don't worry about what anyone else is doing, just decide what you want, decide how you're going to get that and focus." Sally Oddy


Sally Oddy, an established entrepreneur, shares insights about her journey from being an employee to become a successful business owner. We delve into the details about her experience with burnout in a corporate e...

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"Never think you reaching too high. If you want to do something, go for it, go for what you actually want." Mags de Valois


Note: This episode from the archives was originally episode #13 on Oct 20th, 2020. For this episode I have recorded a brief introduction and a summary at the end with my key takeaways. 


Margaret de Valois shares her journey of embracing her individuality while navigating the corporate c...

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"I'm consistently, continuously discovering this... I discovered that the key is the centre. Not losing your centre. This message constantly comes to me, all roads lead to centre. Because of course it's normal, human, to go into extremes." Claudia Anghel


Claudia Angel talks about her transition from a traditional career in human resources to working with the resources of humans and guiding them in life. Claudia reflects on a pivo...

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January 27, 2024 25 mins

"Every conversation we have is co-created with other people."


In this solo episode I reflect on the influence of creative thinking in daily life. The World Economic Forum's top 10 skills of 2023 highlights creative thinking as the second top skill. Although creativity is often linked to monumental achievements or works of art, creativity emanates from all humans in our everyday activities. It is the ability to bring something int...

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January 20, 2024 45 mins

"We are always at our best when we have freedom to be human. And what I mean by that is when we remember, or lean into, what makes us human, oh my gosh, that's octane for our performance and it's so much easier." Karina Rook


Karina Rook is an advocate for the virtue of 'freedom to be human' in our work-lives. In our conversation we cover the importance of genuine connection, overcoming stress and burnout, the role of rest and rec...

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January 13, 2024 43 mins

"This is my mission, I think this is what I really want to do and what I'm born to do, to help people wake up." Caroline Tanja Banz


Caroline Tanja Banz shares her journey of self-discovery, which led her to 'marry herself' symbolically as an act of self-love and commitment to her own needs. Prior to this she said she had been a chameleon, adapting to situations and people arou...

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"Happiness comes from a wide variety of different sources. And actually happiness is not the one single thing that we should pursue because part of being human is the whole world of emotion and feelings. And all of them are valid." Gavin Andrews


In this episode, we explore the concept of mind-body connection and its implication for workplaces. The excerpts  highlight the importance of understanding and embracing emotions and feel...

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December 30, 2023 43 mins

In this final episode of 2023, I take a reflective look back at the year, highlighting some guest interviews, insights and personal journeys. The journey from episode 116 to 156 was marked by diverse conversations traversing topics like personal growth, slowing down, challenges the significance of creativity, self-expression and giving people the chance to be themselves in order to create a more productive and happier workplace. An...

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December 23, 2023 19 mins

"I felt younger, I felt nostalgic, I felt the preciousness of life and the genuine appreciation of true friends." Susan


In this episode, I reflect on the significance of friendships in my life and the joy that they bring. I share experiences with friends from different phases of life, including colleagues from Deloitte, a friend from Pakistan, and school friends. I highlight the importance of friendships during challenging times ...

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 "If I'm working with somebody and they don't do their agreed upon "homework" and I'm telling myself a story like, Oh, they're not motivated. They're lazy. They don't take it seriously. And instead of  coming from that judgey point of view, asking, so what happened? And it turns out they didn't understand what the assignment was or whatever. Get curious, not furious. Get curious instead of judging." David Lee


Dr Susanne Evans, Da...

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December 9, 2023 40 mins

"When people realise that I don't have enough self-love, I don't think you can teach somebody to have self love or to have a connection to your heart, but you can, become more conscious with the lack of it. And by doing that you start to vest in your own love and then in the love for other beings." Stephan Pfingsten


Stephan Pfingsten and I discuss his concern for the imbalance...

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December 2, 2023 43 mins

"Asking for help, I mean, I had no clue that that was the way out. It didn't even cross my mind at all. It's so crazy that asking for help was the way out." Migena Gjerazi


Migena Gjerazi and I delve into personal visions, change, surrender, taking responsibility for our choices and asking for help. Migena shares the importance of aligning with values that bring joy and excitem...

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November 25, 2023 25 mins

"There is something about setting intentions and having it written down or saying it out into the world that makes a difference, especially if it's something you want to do."


In November 2022 I spoke about my intention to write a book in episode 110, Four Week Streaks. I reflect on the year that followed with a focus on the power of setting intentions, building habits and consistency and the fact that life can change in an instan...

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November 11, 2023 14 mins

I'm celebrating!

Submitting Leading Beyond the Numbers: How Accounting for Emotions Tips the Balance at Work to the publisher.


A milestone birthday.


Connect with me:

On LinkedIn

Through my website 

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October 28, 2023 62 mins

"If you can demonstrate to someone that you have their back and you're fair, you're a fair person. I think that's all you need to ask for, isn't it?" James Perry


James Perry talks about his experiences with different bosses, emphasising the significance of fairness and support in the workplace. We talk about the importance of creating a relatable and empathetic work environment to engage emplo...

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**Please note that the episode that went out on Oct 14th was a repeat of episode 102. This was my mistake - apologies. This is now the correct version of episode 148


"Difficult conversations by definition are difficult, but the relationship, just like in anything in life between skill level and how much courage it takes, the more skill, the less courage you have to summons." David Lee


In this episode David Lee is asking the que...

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September 30, 2023 36 mins

In 2018 I walked from Lisbon to Santiago de Compostela, or The Camino. I reached Santiago on Sept 30th and on the 5th anniversary of that milestone I've put together an episode to share some of the stories, thoughts, lessons learned and emotions from that four week journey:

Week 1: Survival

Week 2: Struggle

Week 3: Stride

Week 4: Satisfaction


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September 23, 2023 41 mins

A selection of insights from guests who featured in earlier episodes including  

Episode 1 with Sue Rosen

Episode 4-5 with Gary Cox

Episode 6 with Helen Joy

Episode 9 with Jerry Harris

Episode 13 with Mags de Valois

Episode 14 with John Hayns

Episode 15 with Marcus Thompson

Episode 17 with Kim Bowden

Episode 20 with Aoife O'Brien

Episode 21 with Mark Samowitz

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September 16, 2023 41 mins

"Leadership [....] it's a lot about trying to create environments where people could thrive and facilitate people being successful and therefore the team, the agenda and the organisation being successful." John Fairhurst


John Fairhurst and I discuss his leadership style and philosophy. He emphasises the importance of facilitating and enabling people to be successful. He reflects on the changing nature of the private sector and de...

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