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November 14, 2023 • 48 mins

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What happens when you confront your worst enemy, your own mind, in complete silence, for 10 days? Just ask Mike, who recently emerged from a transformative 10-day meditation retreat. We journey with him as he grapples with his ego, negative thoughts, and the overwhelming need to relax and rejuvenate in the face of an increasingly distracted world. Discover how such mindful practices can help maintain focus and commitment towards personal and professional goals, and how our attention spans have evolved with the advent of social media.

Our conversation takes a turn when we move beyond the realm of focus and distraction, and explore the emotional landscapes mined during such retreats. Mike bares his soul about his internal battles which played a vital role in reshaping his understanding of mental relaxation. I chime in with my own stories from day five of my retreat, where confronting difficult emotions provided a fresh perspective on relationships and love. The crux here is not about overcoming these struggles, but embracing them as catalysts for personal growth.

As we wrap up our chat, we can't help but marvel at the life-changing power of visualization and the concept of mind over matter. How often do we become our own worst enemies in times of self-doubt and stress? How can we harness emotions for personal growth instead of letting them rule us? And how can we cultivate gratitude and positive thinking to stay grounded in the here-and-now? Tune in, as we tease out these questions and more. And remember, we'd love to hear your thoughts and experiences too!

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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hello, welcome to another episode of Life Changers
, and this is Mike, and todaywe're going to continue talking
about my 10 day meditationretreat we made at the day 3 on
the last episode.
So on this episode we'llcontinue and make it to day 4,
but before we get started onthat, just to, I don't know, I

(00:43):
guess we'll just get started onthat.
Oh yeah, I turned off my brightlights in the studio.
I got the ambiance going here,got some blue lights and it's
really cool.
Just makes it more like I don'tknow viable.
But so day for the meditation.
So where we left off on day 3,I believe, is, yeah, my mind

(01:09):
started going a little more.
You know nothing to do, becauseyou gotta understand, like one
thing I realized in this journeyof this 10 day meditation
retreat and by day 3, like Irealized it after the fact, but
like I'm realizing how much ourminds are always just go, go, go
, go, right, it's never relaxedout here in the real world as we

(01:34):
say right, like sometimes I'msitting there going.
What did we do before cellphones?
And we had all this stuff onour phones, like you know.
Oh, on a side note, I just wantto tell Mrs Henderson from high
school.
Yeah, I will have a calculatorwith me and a device that tells

(01:54):
me anything all the time,because all the time in school I
got pulled out calculator to dois work.
We can't use the calculator or,you know, a book to help me
with whatever we're trying to do.
And she's like well, you know,always gonna have these books on
hand or calculator on yourpocket.
Well, yeah, I got a calculatormy pocket.

(02:15):
I got a thing called Googlethat I could ask it anything and
it will tell me anything.
Might not be right sometimes,but it's up to us to determine
if it's right or not, but atleast I have things that tell me
anything.
It could even spell any word inany language.
I wanted to, anyways, back towhat I was talking about.
But, yeah, like on our cellphones all the time and we're

(02:39):
always like need to thatstimulation, need to be busy,
need to do some, and we're neverjust relaxed and taking time
for ourselves, right, and, asyou know, I really like Dr Joe
Dispenza, michael a singer,books and stuff like that.
But there's some videos I watchof Mike, of Dr Joe Dispenza, on

(03:01):
a TV, not TV show, but wow, I'mlosing my words today, but
anyways, it's on Gaia, it's likea platform where and it's a
subscription base and you canwatch things and Dr Joe Spence
is on there and he has a lot ofcool meditations and stuff and

(03:21):
watching him again and he talksa lot about how he's gonna.
The one of the key things formeditation I might have
mentioned this in the lastepisode, but one of the key
meditation maybe I should startediting as I can take out all
this stuff, but anyways, one ofthe key things for meditations
and the main thing is, like Idid mention this last time about

(03:43):
, you got you're like a computer.
You got to reboot the computersometimes so it works properly
and less sluggish, right, andhas time to like get rid of the
garbage when you reboot.
It same thing with our bodiesand our minds when you meditate.
You got to just meditate andget to that place where there's
your mind is relaxed, right, and, as Dr Joe Dispenza will tell
you and as I would, I'm tellingyou like, as I'm trying to do

(04:04):
meditations and stuff and tryingto just like be disconnected
and just be there for me andreboot my body, my mind and my
system.
How you mind, your mind justgoes nuts, or your ego, like a
lot of people call it ego mindthe voice in your head, you know
, just don't talk back to it,not joking, but and yeah, like

(04:26):
it just goes crazy and your bodyis like I gotta move, I gotta
do stuff, come on, come on.
Come on, come on right and likethat's good, like you're doing
the meditation right, and justlike calm it down, as long as
you recognize that your body isdoing this and your mind is
doing this.
You're doing the meditationright.
And then you got to just bringit back right to concentrate on
your breathing, focus on yourbreathing, nothing else, right,
relax and just be nothing and bethere.
And you know, and when you getto that point where your body

(04:49):
and mind can shut off becauseeven when you're sleeping, like
well, when I sleep, mike, mybinded mind and body gets to
reboot, blah, blah, blah.
Okay, but your mind is actuallyworking a lot more.
And when you're sleeping, yourbody might get a little reboot,
but your mind isn't stoppedbecause you're dreaming, you're
doing stuff in your mind andyou're it's just going on as

(05:10):
fire and so you need to justrelax, turn everything off.
And I noticed like it's hard,it's getting harder and harder
for people just to sit there andbe with themselves and by
themselves and just be thepresent, because we're always
like what's next on Facebook?
Or I gotta scroll throughtiktok or YouTube shorts or
whatever.
Because I'm telling youattention spans and you probably

(05:33):
realize it.
I realize it for me, you knoweven my wife.
I'm like let's watch a movie.
She's like I got bored prettyquick.
My attention spans not there.
I just can't be focused enough.
So like I'm trying to less, youknow, scrolling through tiktok
or Facebook and stuff like that,and just you know, back to
where I used to be.
Like if I wanted to watch amovie or TV show, I watched the

(05:53):
full episode and you know notjust skip or I gotta go right
because that's not helping youin any way to achieve your goals
and to help you to, you know,be where you want to be.
Like it's actually reallydistracting how many hours, okay
, like if you have like anyApple products.
I recently got like an iPad anda MacBook for the studio and I

(06:16):
noticed it tells me my weeklygoes hey, just letting you know.
Here's how much time you spenton your device.
This is what you're doing andthese are the apps you're using
and this is the time you've beenusing per week and I even tells
you, sometimes daily, if youwant to program at that, and it
tells me what I've been doingand I'm just like cool, I'm not
on here a lot, but I got aGoogle phone and that's where I

(06:40):
spend most of my time and youknow just.
You know, getting away from theworld or destressing as people.
I'm just gonna sit here forlike an hour to de-stress after
a long day of work and like sixhours later, like oh crap, I did
nothing and I'm real.
I see that more and more andmore.
So let's limit ourselves on ourdevices.
Like you know, if you want to besuccessful and if you want to

(07:03):
achieve all the stuff you wantto achieve, well, you gotta be
present and be willing to do thework.
That's the main thing.
You can sit here and will all.
You want billions of dollarscoming your way, or millions or
whatever.
Right, millions doesn't soundlike anything anymore In Ontario
, canada, like a million dollarhome in Toronto is like a shack,

(07:26):
but yet if you go to NewBrunswick, canada, a million
dollars is like mansions.
Even Texas I hear Florida isreally cheap for housing.
You know stuff like that.
Anyways, just crazy how amillion dollars in Canada, in
Ontario, canada anyways gets youa shack in Toronto.
You get a decent house, maybeOutside Toronto, but anyhow.

(07:50):
And yeah, like the whole pointof my channel is to help you to
be the best you can be and tolearn about the law of
attraction, as I'm learningabout it in my experiences.
But you know, the differencebetween sitting there meditating
and wheeling all this stuff andcreating your reality is, when
it comes to you you got to bewilling to do the work.

(08:11):
And I notice I'm not willing todo the work.
I'd rather be on my phone.
Like look how long it's takenme to get back into these
episodes.
I took the summer off becausewe were really busy, to be
honest, traveling and stuff.
But you know it's October 31sttoday.
Happy Halloween, everybody.
Hope you had a good Halloweenat this point by the time this

(08:34):
airs, but today's, you know, inthe morning for Halloween, so
Trick or treat, but anyways,yeah, like I could have made a
lot more episodes if I wasn'tscrolling as much.
Fun fact.
But anyways, back to themeditation.
So day four, morning of day four.
Now it's four-third of themorning I wake up, I talk to my

(08:56):
spider.
That's still on my window.
It moves around.
You know different spots on thewindow, but I talk, I sit there
, plays Mr Spider, don't come inand eat me.
And for those who didn't know,it's oh man, I forgot the name
it's a wolf spider, a femalewolf spider.

(09:16):
It's one of the bigger ones,it's pretty big.
I didn't even know thoseexisted in Canada.
Man, you gotta understand.
I grew up in Quebec.
Spiders weren't that big.
So day four rolls and I wake up,talk to the spider and I'm just
, you know, like I explained inday three, I'm just going

(09:37):
through the motions.
My mind's going crazy, you know, trying to get me to quit.
Pretty much, that's pretty muchwhat it's trying to do.
Okay, I realize this, but inthe moment you don't realize it.
But now I realize it there's,my mind and body is trying to
get me back to what it's used to, right, sitting around,
scrolling, have access to youknow.

(09:57):
If I want to know something, oh,I just pull up and I want to
see the temperature Perfect.
Want to see what time it is,want to see that, perfect,
perfect, right, I got my phone.
I could look it up or customerscall me.
You got to deal with this.
You know God deal with that andwhatnot, right, but none of
that.
I'm literally just there bymyself.
Well, not by myself.
There's a lot of people, butyou know, here and all that
talking stuff for those who arejust joining this episode, go

(10:18):
back to the previous one, you'lllearn a little bit about what
I'm talking about.
But, yeah, so, no talking, no,nothing for 10 days, and I'm
only at day four.
So my body is just like, uh,just want to go home, just bored
, let's go back to bed.
You know, let's do this.
And my mind is just going crazyLike, oh, here we go, you know,
you know your wife's back athome, maybe she's messing up the

(10:40):
contracts for you, maybe thebusiness isn't doing so well
since you're not there.
And my mind is just going crazylike this.
I'm like shut up, back tobreathing, back to breathing,
right.
And then, you know, go throughthe breakfast.
And I see it.
You know, there's a few peoplethat look like they're getting
depressed.
I laugh now, but in the momentI wasn't laughing and I was just

(11:01):
like okay, you know, we'regoing through the process and
I'm just trying to convincemyself like this is good, this
is good and it is right.
And then, um, we get to themorning meditation.
I'm sitting there trying tomeditate.
My mind was just doing itsnegativity again, like, oh, you
know, maybe your whole familyjust died in a car accident.

(11:22):
Right now, there's no way toknow.
And I'm like, oh, there is noway to know, right?
I'm like, stop, you know.
But folks, I'm breathing, calmdown mind.
I want to do this for me.
I want to, you know, learn howto meditate and do this retreat
and do a reboot.
It's kind of like the way mywife explained is like this 10
day retreat is like a reboot foryour body and mind and soul.
So it was going to be good,right, but I didn't realize how

(11:44):
crazy it was going to be, wheremy mind and body was just trying
to like come on, like justdoesn't want to sit there
meditate for hours on end everyday.
Yes, it was really hard.
I like just thinking about it,just like I explained in the
other episode, right, if youhadn't, um, we're in a car

(12:08):
accident or had something crazyhappen in your life, and when
you talk about the story, howyour body reacts and your mind
is reacting as if it's happeningagain.
Right, so it's the same thingwith your mind when it's.
If you entertain those thoughtsof like, oh, all these bad
things could be happening rightnow and oh, no right, it's the
end of the world, oh, and thenyour mind like just keeps on

(12:29):
playing with that, and then yourbody, you know, reacts to it as
if it's really happening.
And that's where, um, you gotto like just slow down and live
in reality and choose thereality.
As I say that you live in, likeI don't focus on all this
negativity that's going on andstuff.
Well, mike, you should readthere's all this crazy stuff

(12:49):
happening in the room, yeah, butI want to live in my moment
puppies and rainbows and I don'twant to bring negativity,
energy, negative energy into mylife and focus on that stuff,
because I see people out thereand people I know and love and
cherish that are focused onnegative, negative, negative,
you know, and that the wholeworld's against them, everybody

(13:11):
hates them.
Oh, you know, and it's not ahealthy way to live.
I'm thinking everybody hatesyou and everybody's against you
and blah, blah, blah.
But it's not even true Peopleyou know, like even as a kid,
like I remember when I was likea kid and I've seen teenagers,
I'm like, oh, those teenagers.
I look down and they'reprobably talking about me, you
know, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah.

(13:32):
Right, they don't care who I am, they really don't.
They're probably just likeliving their life, talking about
, like, what cool things theydid at school that day in high
school.
And I was like a little kidgoing, oh, these teenagers are
going to beat me up, they hateme and I'm scared, thinking I'm
going to get beat up.
Hello, they don't really careabout me.

(13:52):
And yeah, you know, when I wasyounger, I got beat up a lot
growing up in Quebec, butanyways, that's different
stories.
But yeah, so my mind's goingcrazy, and to the point where I
just I needed to cry.
So I got up out of themeditation hall because there's
all these people in there and Iwent outside and I'm just crying

(14:13):
.
I couldn't hold it back, whichapparently is a good thing,
right, just to release, and justlike man, why is my mind doing
this?
I'm like am I going crazy?
Like what's going on?
Blah, blah, blah.
And then one of the teachersnoticed me leave, like that.
So they came to see me andthey're like what's up, are you
okay?

(14:33):
You know I'm like I just and Iexplained to them what was
happening with my mind and youknow, ego, whatever and tell
them like all these negativethoughts and like you know my
brain's trying to like get meout of here.
I just want to get up and runand leave.
And you know my brain's tellingme like how All these bad
things could be happening backhome and there's nothing I could
do about it.
No way anybody can get me blah,blah, blah and it's just hard

(14:54):
and like it's neat to cry andit's like good, oh good, just
like day three, I guess, right.
And he's like yeah, you'reprogressing really good, like
most people get to this point byday, like six, seven, maybe
even eight.

(15:14):
This is day four and you'realready like realizing all this
stuff.
I was like well, you know IRead books about this and I
study, listen to books.
Already let's study a lot ofthis stuff where I'm interested
in like the ego and all that andmeditating and whatnot.
And he's like this is good,because this is the whole point

(15:35):
of you coming out to these, tothis and they retreat is for you
to help you to understand,recognize the ego and the
negativity your ego has and howyou can, you know, change it to
positive and work with it andstuff like that.
And I was just like this justseems crazy, like I never
expected it to be like this.
And yeah, it's just, it's crazy.

(16:00):
I wasn't expecting to be likethat crazy and I'm just, you
know, really missing my familyand my wife, my kids and stuff
and just like, oh, it's, it's.
It sounds like, oh, he might, Icould have done this, you know,
but it's just, you gottaunderstand.
You're taking out everything,all stimulation, out of your

(16:21):
world no cell phones.
You're not getting the dd heyyou got a thing, or hey, you got
a messenger, or this or that.
You're not talking to peoplethere, unless, like you need to,
like in my case, where I wastalking to the guy, or there's
certain times you can talk tothe teachers and ask them
questions, but you're notcommunicating with people every,
all the time and just, you know, keeping yourself busy, it's
just literally you in your mindand meditating.

(16:44):
There's no TVs, there's nomovies, there's no laptops,
there's no cell phones, there'sno iPads, there's no, none of
this stuff.
When you're doing theseretreats and it's good, we need
any, I know for me I need to dotake out all that detox of it on
all that crap and Go tour.
You know where now is my I guessnot most successful but most

(17:04):
Working hard mentalities, when Ididn't have all the crap and
pushing me in my life.
So I'm gonna be minimalist.
But yeah, and I was just likethis is hard and he's like, well
, you got this.
Like and I'm like, well, mikewent crazy.
He's like if you were goingcrazy, I Would kick you out of
the out of this, like themeditation retreat.
But you're not.

(17:24):
You have a stable mind.
This is normal.
Everybody's going through thesame thing.
If you look around, you see howpeople are, you know getting
harder and harder every day andthis is part of the process.
And then once you, you knowwork through all this with your
ego and you know your mind orwhatever, and Make it into a
habit and stuff how much betterand easier it gets and how you

(17:49):
can change your negative ego toa positive ego and whatnot.
Right, I was like, okay, I Willcontinue.
Right, and you know I went backin, finished the morning
Meditations and you leave for acouple hours, go to lunch and
you go back to the afternoonmeditation.
They do separate and go backand you know those meditations

(18:10):
are hard.
I found myself my mind drifting,you know, like, hey, what's
going on?
Let go do something.
Hey, what's that?
You know, think about this,think about that.
Hey, what's going?
You know, I'm trying to liketurn into like positive voice of
my ego, or voice my head, and Iwas like, okay, I got this, you
know, and it's just that thenight meditation was really hard

(18:34):
.
So I talked to the teacher again.
I'm like this is like I justneed to go, I need to go home, I
want to go home.
And he's just like, no, you'redoing so.
Good, you know you can Go homeif you want.
Blah, blah, blah.
But you know, I recommend youstay.
Like try to sleep tonight,tomorrow morning, you know, stay
five.
And then after that you knowYou're over the five-day hump

(18:55):
and then it starts going downand before you know it You're
done and how much better you'dbe.
And blah, blah, blah, and I waslike, okay, okay, I'll try.
And all these emotions are just,you know, going create like
bubbling up and stuff where Ijust feeling I sound like a
crybaby.
But I just needed morereleasing, I guess, more crying
to do?
So I want to.

(19:15):
I'll just sat there and outsideJust like trying to relax my
mind and stuff, and you knowcrying and whatnot.
And then I was just like, oh,let's just go to bed, I want to
go to bed and as I'm walking,like there was another person
who I guess when I was in thatcry, he left, he stormed out of

(19:38):
the building, left, and you know, maybe he was like me, right,
just going through a hard time.
He needed to like just need to,you know, going through, maybe
he's leaving, I don't know.
And I was just like, okay, sowhen I finished, you know crying
and stuff, and I was like I'mgonna walk back to my cabin in
the woods and go to bed andrelax and you know, make it to

(19:59):
day five.
It takes one day at a time.
Right, it takes one day at atime.
Like, let's do this.
I got this the next time I'mwalking through.
The guy who was walking back, Iguess he went to his cab, his
room, and came back out and helooked like really angry or
grumpy or upset about somethingand you know the meads want to
be like, oh hey, buddy, how's itgoing?
What's going on.

(20:19):
But my ego's like, hey, man,you should don't talk.
You're not allowed to talk topeople, so don't talk to him.
And he's probably really upset.
He might be going over thereand he's gonna start beating up
people and you know he's goingcrazy.
You should save yourself, right?
And I was like what the hell'swrong with you?
I was like no, the guy's goingthrough a hard time, whatever.
But I'm like you know sure I'mnot supposed to talk and

(20:40):
interrupt.
So you know, maybe you need totalk to the teacher again.
So I was just like whatever.
So I left, went into my cabinand my mind's like, hey, maybe
if the guy goes crazy and startslike flipping tables and like
trying to beat up the teachersand stuff, then you get to go
home tomorrow.
I'm like that's sad, like stop,stop, stop.

(21:02):
Thinking.
Like just no, I'm just like no.
And then my mind starts goingback hey, man, did you see the
spider this evening?
Did you look for him?
Maybe he's inside the room now,maybe he's gonna crawl in your
face.
And I'm just like, oh man, whatthe hell is going on.
Like I need something todistract me.
Where's my phone?
Like I was, I don't have itLike I left mine with my wife.

(21:25):
She had it because she neededit for her business and stuff.
But a lot of people leave theirphones locked up in a room with
the at the place where we'redoing the retreat and I'm just
like man, what's going on?
This is nuts, right.
And then I started hearing likeit sounded like screaming far in

(21:46):
the woods somewhere and I'mlike what the hell?
Like it just sounded likescreaming, like ah, ah, I'm like
what the hell?
I'm like what's going on, man?
And my mind's like, hey, maybethat guy's beating up people.
I'm like, okay, more likely,maybe he's frustrating using the
wood, screaming, just like, ah,what's going on?
Right, I realize now, but yeah,I'll finish the story and I'll

(22:07):
tell you what the screaming was.
It's pretty hilarious, butanyways, my mind's just like,
trying not to be all negativeabout it.
And then he started hearingowls going who, who.
And I'm like who?
Someone's screaming, maybesomeone's getting hurt?
I thought, maybe, like it wasan animal, like you know,
getting attacked by anotheranimal.
Like what's going on?
And then he started hearing.
I started hearing all thesethings in the woods.
I'm like what?
I'm like I'm just gonna sit inmy room in my bed and just curl

(22:32):
up and then the spider might getyou.
Look in your sheets, am I beinghere?
And I'm just like freaking out.
I didn't sleep well that nightand then I eventually fell
asleep but anyways, coming tofind out what that screaming was
in the woods was not peoplescreaming or an animal screaming
because it was getting murdered.
If you want, you can Googlewhat screaming fox sounds like.

(22:55):
It just sounds like it's crazyand in the woods it's nuts.
But anyways, some people thatlive in the cities listening to
this podcast, like.
I'm never going into the woods,so it's crazy out in the
wilderness.
Hey, the wilderness is abeautiful place.
I love it.
I just hate mosquitoes.
It's very beautiful to hearscreaming foxes at night and I

(23:26):
was going hoo, hoo all over thewoods.
Very entertaining when you gotnothing to distract you from it
and your mind just goes nuts.
It's kind of like when you hearsomething in the dark and your
mind starts going oh, what isthat?
That ghost is there and I'mlike, eh, like this is happening
all day because I got nothingto distract me.
The only time I'm reallydistracted is when I'm sleeping

(23:49):
or eating and at supper time.
Supper time is just like acoffee and a snack like a fruit.
You're not eating big meals atsupper time.
The only big meals you get islike breakfast and lunch.
So that's it, and breakfast isusually oatmeal, lunch is
usually like I don't know somekind of pasta and salad and
stuff like that.
But yeah, it was a greatexperience.

(24:13):
So now it's day morning of dayfive that I'm like, well, I
guess everything's normal.
It's the buzzers going likenormal breakfast ding ding, ding
, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding,ding for five o'clock or 5.30
for breakfast in the morning andI was just like, okay, I got
this, I got this and I did themorning meditation and it was

(24:39):
really difficult.
I don't want to get into toomuch detail, but yeah, just it
was really done.
I was really done.
I was mentally just tired andemotionally just not having it
that morning.
I skipped lunch and then I wentback for the meditation at

(25:02):
lunch and I just, I don't know,I was just shutting down.
I didn't like the feelings I washaving, I didn't like how I was
, you know, for a guy that talkson a podcast and there's like

(25:23):
puppies and rainbows and stufflike that.
Like I know, I have a lot ofthings to work on.
Just, I'm a normal person, justlike everybody else, and I
don't want this podcast tostrictly be about like all the
positive stuff all the time,because some people will be like
whoa, mike from Life Changersliving the life, and he's losing
a lot of attraction.
He's learning all this stuffand it's all positive and he's
never negative in my.
No, there's tough times.

(25:44):
I'm only human.
At least I think I'm human.
Could be a robot with an Idon't know, could be AI Anyways.
But yeah, like I'm only humanand it was really tough and I
was really missing my family,missing my wife.

(26:06):
Like you gotta understand mywife and my family.
Like I really love my kids andI really love my wife.
Like we're I don't know Like wehave such a good relationship,
like I don't hide nothing, youknow how, like in the world,

(26:27):
like TV and movies and all that.
It's like, oh, your wife, youknow your ball and chain right,
are you spouse, ball and chainright?
But I really have a goodconnection with my wife, or my
you know my spouse, my partnerin life, and we just tell each
other everything and we're justopen and we have such an amazing
like I just, I don't know,that's like gonna be one of the

(26:53):
topics we'll talk about is likelove, my story, finding love.
But yeah, like she's not onlymy best friend, like she really
is, like I know I'm not beingcliche or nothing, like, yeah,
like she really is my bestfriend, cause I know, once we

(27:15):
started, like the first, we weremarried for 17 years this year
and this October actually abouta week ago, 10 days ago was our
anniversary.
And 17 years we've been married.
I'm married young, but and youknow, you think you know what
love is and how much I love.
And then it just amazes me howI could love somebody more than

(27:38):
I ever thought I could.
And you know, once you, I guess, stop living this, the stigma
of society, how like, oh, mywife's supposed to be my ball
and chain and she puts me downand holds me back and blah, blah
, blah, blah, blah, like it'slike, oh, we're gonna have a
whole episode, maybe a fewepisodes on this, but and how

(27:58):
like you're always prepared tobe, like you know, with the
argument, to try to win theargument, and stuff like that.
But like the last, I would sayfive, six, five, maybe six years
, seven, maybe.
Just, we put everything outthere and we talk about
everything.
There's nothing to hide fromeach other.
There's no nothing.

(28:18):
There's no reason to lie,there's no reason to hide,
there's no reason to like fight.
You know, when you like talk tosomebody and try to give them
constructive criticism, and theneverybody takes defense to it,
and then you start arguing andfighting.
Yeah, like we went through allthat.
But like now, when we talk,it's just like okay, like tell
me, you know, don't get upset.
That's why I'm gonna tell you.
And then you tell me you knowwhatever.

(28:39):
But yeah, and then I shall.
I just love my wife so fuckingmuch and I was really missing
her and just needed her to, youknow, to give her a big hug and
just for her to tell meeverything's okay, like it was
really hard and I know it's onlybeen five, five days at this

(29:00):
point, but it was, it was hard.
And you know, I'm like they'renot letting me my mind's, like
they're not letting me leavehere.
They won't let you tell yourwife and the teacher can see
that I was having an external,internal crisis and he came over
and says everything okay and Ijust I can't, just couldn't

(29:23):
handle it.
I was just like I don't knowwhat's going on.
You know all borderline, almostfeel like I'm having a panic
attack.
I'm just like freaking out.
And he's like, hey, I'm havinga panic attack.
He goes I've seen people withpanic attacks, trust me.
And I'm like, yeah, I'm not thetype to get them, but no, maybe
my mind's like now you need toget them, so we're gonna give it

(29:44):
to you.
When I'm like no, oh, but.
And I was talking to the teacherfor a bit and he's like look,
do you want to Talk to your wife?
If you were able to call her,she tells you everything is okay
and it relaxes and calms yourmind, would you be able to get
back into that?
Like, would you still?

(30:06):
Would have stood, running yourexperience, the meditation.
I says no, that might have beenhelp it.
And and my wife's done thistwice and I'm thinking in my
head my wife's crazy.
She's done this twice.
She's done two 10-day retreatslike this and it was really good
for her.
But like, was it as hard forher?

(30:26):
I Don't know.
She says it was, but I Don'tknow.
So I need to call her.
So they let me call her.
And I Call her.
She doesn't answer the phone andlike at this point it's just
after supper and we're supposedto be getting ready for the next

(30:47):
meditation.
So I try calling and calling.
I call like four times, noanswer.
And the guys like look, man, wegot to go for the meditation.
She's okay.
I'm like my mind's like dude,she's not answering the phone.
Man, maybe there's people inthe house robbing the house
right now.
And then I call one more timeand the guy looks like annoyed

(31:10):
with me.
I'm like I got a call her onemore time, so I call her woman.
She finally answered like Like,if your husband, mike, she's
like man.
She's like is everything okay?
Like what's up?
Because we said no news is goodnews, right?
So now she's getting all thesecalls from this place and she's
like oh, she saw that she missedthe calls and then what she

(31:31):
called back it was there's noone.
Like it doesn't call back thatphone.
I'm on, right, he calls back tomain office.
No, it's the main office atthis hour.
Anyways, I just like Finally gother.
She's like oh, is everythingokay, what's up?
I'm like, hey, you know, aftertalking to her about it, after
she's like you sound sodepressed, so blah.
I'm like it's really hard, likehow did you do this?

(31:54):
And she's like you know, kindof comfort me like everything's
gonna be okay, everything's finehere, everybody's fine, there's
nothing.
You know, tell your mind tocalm down, and stuff like that,
right, everything's good here,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Now it's like okay, she's likedo you want me to come get you?
Cuz I'll come get you if youneed me to.
I'm like no, no, I got this, Icould do this.

(32:14):
You know, I Got this, I can dothis, right.
And then she's like okay, okay,well, I gotta go, cuz the guys
like we gotta go, I'm gonna goback and just hung up.
Then we went for the meditationand I was like tell myself like
okay, everything's good there,blah, blah, blah.
And then my ego and more minewas like hey, you, uh, you know

(32:41):
she's, she's like, and my mindis like oh, hey, you know, you
just hung up on your wife likethat, like maybe she thinks
you're going crazy.
And I'm like oh, here we goagain, like you need to call her
and do this.
And yeah, I just wasn't havingthat my mind, I was just done.

(33:02):
So, in the nutshell, they letme call her.
She's like I'm coming to getyou, but I wasn't allowed to
leave Intel like every lightsout because they don't want
people to see me leaving andThen they go.
Oh, I could leave right, cuzyou know everybody wants to work
on themselves.
So if everybody sees you knowthe first person to leave the

(33:24):
party, then everybody startsleaving and I'm like Call my
wife, like these, you get me.
And she's like I'll be there intwo and a half hours.
And I was like you know, youcould come tomorrow morning.
It's like early in the morningwhen everybody's in the
meditation after breakfast andno one will know.
And she's like, no, I'm comingnow.

(33:47):
So I want.
I saw the teacher's like, hey,you know, like finish them.
Like I finished all themeditations, I did all the rest
of the day and I went to my roomlike everything was normal.
I cleaned up the cabin, I wasin, packed up all my stuff.
And now my mind's like, oh,you're quitter, a, you're such a

(34:08):
quitter bike.
Hey, you're gonna telleverybody on life-changers bike
that you're a quitter, huh.
Yeah, I Felt like If I stayedit could have been beneficial.
But I feel like I learned whatI need to learn and I did learn

(34:32):
a lot of stuff which, well, I'llget into for the second half of
this podcast.
But yeah, so anyways, I'm in thewoods, just in my room in the
dark, just sitting there waitingBecause I'm not allowed to
leave until at least lights out,which is about 10 o'clock.
And then what about time?

(34:52):
Everybody falls asleep.
It's like you know, 10, 30 orso.
So I'm just sitting therewaiting and then I hear knock on
the door and and I open thedoor and it was the teacher's.
Like okay, you know, I can'tlet you leave alone.
He's like let's go take up,like let's just go and sit in
the breakfast hall and wait, andthen you can call your wife to

(35:13):
see you know how far away she is, and stuff like that.
Then we can walk down to thegate because the gates probably
locked.
So we walked and we talked andI call my wife.
She's a, yeah, you know, halfan hour away.
So I was talking to the guy andtell it.
I'm like I'm sorry and I Thinkit's okay.
Like, don't worry about it, hegoes.
A lot of people quit.
It's already like apparentlyfive people that quit.
I didn't realize that and I waslike, yeah, but I, I just need

(35:38):
to, I need.
He goes luck, man, you advancedfaster than a lot of people.
Most people you know get tothis point later.
And then you know, hopefully,like resolve it before the 10
day retreat.
But you go, you're learning alot about your ego and your mind
and your body, like that'samazing.
He goes like just continueworking through it.

(36:00):
And he explained to me that allthe meditations are on YouTube
and I could find them and justlisten to them and do them and
stuff like that and no deals, mycrazy mind.
But yeah, and then we startedwalking to the gate to where my
wife was going to be, and he'slike I need to meet this woman

(36:22):
that you love so fucking much.
He goes I never met a marriedman who's just that deeply in
the love, like she's special andI'm like she is special and
that's what gave me the idea ofwhere I need to talk a little
bit about like how we got tothis point of our relationship
and it's I probably don't evenrealize how much more I can fall

(36:42):
in love with this person.
But like, yeah, like she's myrock.
And he's like I was kind ofhoping after he talked to her,
because she's done this 10 timesthat she would just tell you to
pretty much stay and you wouldstay and finish it Because he
goes.
I want to see how you wouldhave progressed through the 10
days because you're way ahead ofthe class.
And I was like, yeah, but Ifeel like I got what I needed

(37:04):
out of it.
He's yeah, I feel that too, Ifeel the energy.
And then my wife pulled up andhe's like I want to see this
person, you know.
And he's like, hey, I need tomeet the girl that this guy is
so crazy for and stuff like that.
And then I just ran and huggedmy wife and it was, it was
really different and just likemy wife feels to love and feel

(37:33):
so much I missed her and howhard it was.
And then I still feltdisconnected from the world.
Like she's like do you want todrive?
I was like, oh, yeah, I coulddrive, because I usually do a
lot of the driving right,because I drive, drove truck and
still drive trucks right If Ineed to for my business.
She's like, no, I'll drive.

(37:54):
We don't seem to be you Likeyou're still disconnected and
still, like you know, comingback to the reality, I guess,
and it must have had a hard timeand I was like, yeah and yeah.
So we, you know, hugged my wife.

(38:15):
She said she'll drive, and Ijumped in the car or my truck
and we were driving home andlike, even my wife was so happy
to see me, she's all bubbly andstuff.
I was like, oh, I like it's not,like I don't know, it's hard to
explain, like, but anyways, wewere just talking and you know,

(38:39):
help me by talking and help merealize like a lot of things.
And I explained to her, like Iexplained to you guys in the
previous episode, maybe a littlebit in this episode, how, you
know, I'm a visual person, likeI got photographic memory and
when, you know, when I hearstories or when I, you know,
experience thoughts in my headand stuff, it's more like a TV

(39:00):
show or movie playing, becauseI'm visual and that's what makes
it all more real.
I guess, you know, somebodytells you a joke, I actually see
the joke happening and that'swhat makes it so much more
funnier.
But yeah, I started realizing,as we were talking, like the

(39:25):
visual thing and and you know,my ego and now my brain's
telling me I'm such a failurefor not finishing.
I only made it to five days.
I could have made it to 10.
But the things I got out of it,I guess, are life changing in

(39:46):
the sense I realized how realthe ego or the voice in your
head and how like negative it isand it's always trying to do
the opposite.
It's kind of like you know, Iknow, be everybody's who's
listening experience did it oneway or another.
Right, like I explained earlierabout the dark thing, right,
how your mind starts going nutsand how you actually know what's
in the dark and what you'rehearing.
Or if you're trying to reach,you know, your girlfriend or

(40:12):
boyfriend or whatever, and youcan't get a hold of them and
this mind just starts going like, oh, maybe they want to break
up with you, maybe they'recheating on you, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah.
Or oh, maybe they're hurt,maybe the hospital, right, and I
know everybody's experience.
That's because people aretelling all the timely stories
and, like you know, I used to bevery disconnected from like I

(40:33):
had like thoughts and stuff, butlike my emotions, like growing
up really disconnected from myemotions, where I learned to
just turn them off like whatever, right, but it's, yeah, it's
good to have emotions and youknow it's good to have a good
cry and stuff like that.

(40:54):
And I will say that because Idid when I was in my retreat.
When I was in my retreat, but Irealized how powerful your mind
really is and your thoughtsreally are and, if you entertain
them, how really are and itjust reinforces everything that

(41:14):
I've been talking about.
This is like it's.
It's all about mind over matter.
How you could change the worldwith one thought, like your
whole entire world, with onethought.
You could change anything withone thought it's.
You know I can hear me sayingsome other episodes how well in

(41:41):
you know young me would seeeverything I achieved, how I'm
sitting here in a podcast studioin my own office with this nice
desk and these nice leatherchairs right, and it's my
personal office for business andstuff and I also use it as a
podcast studio.
And how cool it is.
And how I've like twowarehouses and you know I'm

(42:02):
running a business and I'mhelping people and I got all
these different brands and stuff.
And how amazing life is right.
And yet tell me that, show memy old self, that how, you know,
crazy I'd go.
This is awesome, I've made it.
I've made it.
Everything's happening the wayI want right.

(42:25):
But yet here in the moment I'mlike I want more.
I want more.
I will never satisfy what wehave and I need to be satisfied
with what I have and gratefuland show gratitude to the
universe, to the world, toMother Nature, to God, whatever
you want to call it right.

(42:45):
Show gratitude for everythingyou have, be grateful, just love
life, love everything, be happyand just don't worry.
And positive minds and positiveattitudes work.
And I do know, like mind overmatter, how you know when I

(43:06):
first started with testing a lawof attraction all those years
ago and I would do the hardestthing, which is go to the casino
and try to profit, and how easyit became for me, and how you
know when I used to go to thecasino, I used to get excited,
winning like a hundred bucks,you know, whatever.
Now, if I'm not, if I go to thecasino, like I'm jaded, I guess

(43:26):
, or if I don't win like athousand or more, a couple, five
thousand, then I'm like man,whatever, okay, I made a few
hundred bucks, right.
As you get jaded, as you getolder, as you get older, as you
get more, I guess successful andstuff, but like how contracts
in the old days where I was like, wow, I got a contract where
they're paying us you know Xamount of money for this big

(43:51):
event that we're organizing forthem and my profit will be
decent.
Like, wow, I'm doing great, Iwon't times that by 10.
And I'm, you know.
Now I'm like, oh, wow, that'samazing.
But if I get the same contractI got where it's like, oh, wow,
I do this.
No, whatever business right, butyour mind really does have a

(44:12):
lot of power and control.
Your mind and your body iswhat's controlling, I guess,
your thoughts, your ego, on yourbody.
As Dr Joe Spenzel will say, yougot to control your body and
your thoughts, not don't letyour body control you.

(44:32):
And how it controls you is, youknow, cravings.
Oh, I need this, I need this,I'll go do this.
Oh, you're used to just sittingaround doing nothing.
Oh, why do you want to getactive?
Like you know, just stop.
You don't need to go run 10kilometers, you don't need to do
push-ups, you don't need to dothat, just be happy where you
are.
And sometimes my ego uses myown words against me and my body

(44:53):
is like, yeah, let's just relaxand do nothing.
All this feels good.
How hard it is when you'rewalking on the treadmill or how
hard it is when I'm doing thesepush-ups.
Oh, just relax, man, do ittomorrow.
Do it tomorrow right.
Your mind and body just gang upon you and you just got to
learn to take control.
So one of the bigger lessons Itake from the 10-day meditation

(45:19):
retreat is how much my body andmy mind, or my ego, is running
me and I need to take control.
That's the lesson here.
Folks, it's amazing how you canchoose to be successful or how

(45:46):
you can choose to let your egogo crazy and be depressed and
your mind just takes over.
It's kind of like if we're inthe dark and you hear a weird
noise, and the one in the woodsin the night right, or in the
cemetery at night oh yeah,you're walking through your and
you hear some noise your mindstarts going crazy.
And if you entertain, you knowsome of those thoughts that your

(46:11):
ego is throwing at.
Yeah, you run out of ways,scared, but then you realize you
know just the wind or this orthat.
Right, maybe this is a zombie,I don't know.
But yeah, this episode is goingto be cut short, but it's just

(46:34):
love yourself, love who you areLive in the moment.
I tell you that all the time,but we really truly got to live
in the moment.
Live in the now, don't live inthe past, because our bodies
live in the past and they try torecreate the past over and over
and over and over and over andover.
So you get into your routineand blah, blah, blah and then

(46:55):
maybe you don't feel fulfilledor you don't feel like you did
anything.
Well, control your body, takecontrol and love yourself.
That's what matters.
Mind over matter.
Well, I do love everybody.
Thank you very much forlistening and the episodes will

(47:19):
only get better.
I do appreciate everybody thatlistened to this.
Please share these podcastswith your friends, family or
anybody you think willappreciate them.
And, yeah, feel free to reachout in an email it's
lifechangersmike at gmailcom.
That's lifechangersmike atgmailcom and just tell us if

(47:42):
there's any topics you want usto talk about or if you have any
questions or any experiencesyou want to share, and we will
share it for you on the podcast.
So remember we are all a workin progress and it does really
take one day at a time.
But appreciate where you are.
Live in the now, be happy,don't worry about tomorrow.
Don't worry about what happenedyesterday.

(48:03):
It's in the past.
Live now, be happy.
I love you.
And once again, this is Mikewith LifeChangers.
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