November 21, 2023 • 58 mins
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Ever wanted to listen to your favourite tunes emanating from an object you'd least expect? This episode, we're graced by Mike, the ingenious creator of Knot Audio - a speaker that seamlessly blends into your decor as a piece of wood. Mike shares how his musical passion and engineering prowess came together to transform a simple lumber into a superior quality audio device.
As we traverse through Mike's innovative journey, we also uncover the deeper lessons it carries about perseverance, self-reflection, and the courage to take risks. The tale of Knot Audio isn't just about creating an audio-tech marvel, it's a testament to the power of staying committed to your dreams and turning them into reality. It's about showing up for yourself and not letting the fear of failure deter you from pushing your limits.
Venturing beyond audio technology, we delve into a chat about the law of attraction and its role in personal success. Mike reveals how this philosophy played a crucial role in bringing Knot Audio to life, and how it encouraged him to take bold risks. We wrap up the discussion by highlighting personal responsibility and the transformative power of positivity. So, if you're intrigued by the crossroads of innovation, personal growth, and the pursuit of passion, this episode featuring Mike is an auditory delight you wouldn't want to miss.
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Hi, welcome to the episode of life changers, and
this is Mike.
Today, we have a special guest.
His name is Mike.
Welcome to the show, mike.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Thanks, mike.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
So today is just gonna be Mike and Mike.
That can be too confusing forpeople.
Do you know?
Can you tell the differencebetween the mics?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, this mic is in front of me, so I think this mic
belongs to Mike here?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yes, there's two.
There's actually like four micsin here.
There's Mike that I'm talkinginto, there's me, there's Mike,
there's Mike, there's Mike andthere's a Mike right there.
We actually have another Mike,but this other person is want to
be on the mic unused.
This is gonna be fun.
So I have some friends hangingout with me in the studio and
we're just chilling and I'm like, hey, let's record an episode
(01:05):
and see what happens.
So just, we're gonna give alittle background on Mike, other
Mike.
Do you want to be Mike one orMike two?
Probably two, because this isyour show, okay, well, no, you
just told me you might buy itfrom me.
I was joking around saying, hey,what happens to this guy's?
Like a million hits, and thenI'm like then I'll have to bring
(01:26):
you back on, because everybodywants you back on, and then I'm
gonna have to pay you.
And he's like, no, I'll bepaying you.
Two shaped Mike.
Welcome to the Mike and Mikeshow.
Do we get a different intro,different?
Do you want a differentclapping?
I don't know, maybe you canclap it out, get your wife to go
.
Ahhhhh, it's gonna be a greatepisode today, people.
(01:53):
I think this will be betterthan one of the good episodes.
After the last two episodes youguys just listened to about me
talking to a spider in the cabinin the wood, so at least now
I'm talking to somebody instudio, not to myself, so maybe
the audience will like thedifference.
I don't know because you're thethird person I've ever brought
into the studio to talk to.
Does that make you feel special?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Mike that does.
I don't know why I was numberone, but I guess I'm still Mike
number two, so that's right, I'molder.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I know my place, that is right.
And so today we brought Mike inhere and we're just chilling in
the office, hanging out in thestudio and well, we're gonna
give you a little background onMike.
So his name is Mike, he likesto ride a bike.
People hung up at the show, butI turn off the show by now.
(02:45):
They're like no, we're done.
Mike's lost his mind.
He's talking to himself,changed his voice.
No, it really is another personin here, it's not just me,
right?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Right, oh crap, it's just me.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
No, the reason why I wanted to talk with Mike is I
think it'll be fun.
Now.
We always said we should justtalk and have fun with it and
see what happens and hopefullythis becomes a good episode that
you guys like it.
Let us know in the comments,send us an email to
lifechangersmike at gmailcom,and let me know if you like it
or not when I go crazy, but Ishould.
Yeah, I was gonna record anepisode at three in the morning
(03:19):
today, but I was all like hypedup after watching Dr Dota Spenza
.
I was watching one of his livethings on Gaia.
I know you really don't knowwhat I'm talking about a little
bit, unless you do.
I don't know.
You're looking at me like youdon't, but anyways, for my
audience members who knows Italk about Michael's little
spends, michael, wow, dr Joe'sspends.
I don't know what his firstname is.
(03:40):
Might be Michael Dr Joe, dr Joe.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Is that first name, joe?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yes, you're right.
Whatever his first name is,it's only nine o'clock at night
right now, so not that tired,but we did just eat Firehouse
sub and I'm really full now.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You got the large two .
I said you weren't even hungry.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I know I wasn't hungry.
Then we go to the Firehouse subbecause we knew we weren't
going to eat.
We're going to have problems inthe studio, we're going to get
hungry.
There'll be water bottlesflying everywhere and I was like
I'm not that hungry, but I'lljust come with you guys.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I'll be 10 bucks.
I'll get half of it you havelater, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Things gone.
Yeah, yeah, about the wholemeal with a drink.
I think I should walk home,leave my van here.
Oh geez, louise.
But the reason why I broughtMike in here?
Well, because I was going totake advantage of them to write
things for me.
I hate writing out all thislegal paperwork.
(04:42):
My pen mentioned sucks If itever faxes, yeah, if it ever
faxes.
Using these digital faxes, I'mgoing to real fax.
Everybody know what a real faxmachine is.
I miss those.
Those are great.
But anyways, I want to talkabout this special product Mike
is making, because it's amazing.
He shows up with to my housewith a piece of wood and tells
(05:04):
me he's going to play music onit and I thought he's just going
to hit it.
You know, like I don't know, ifyou hear the desk, I hold it.
That sounds stupid.
I thought he's just going tohit it, you know, like a drum
and stuff, but no, he actuallyhas a product that he made and
it's a speaker that looks justlike a piece of wood.
But it's amazing to me how itworks and maybe you'll get more
(05:25):
into the technicality of it.
But it's called, not audio.
You can see him, see him.
You want to see Mike.
You can see his products at notaudio dot com and check it out
and see what's coming up.
They're not for sale yet to thepublic.
We're still the word.
I act like I'm a partner withthem.
We're still in production andtesting phase.
(05:46):
But no, they're still workingon testing on it and stuff like
that.
But it sounds amazing.
It's a long process but likethe hardest part I think for
Mike was you have to researchand find out the right wood, so
make sound.
You can't just use any woodright.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, we went through around 24 different species of
woods, about two dozen of them,and we've also tried other
materials that weren't organic,just to see how it would be with
, like aluminum or glass,different things that you could
turn into a speaker.
And just to add a little note,it is not with a K because we
(06:24):
like puns, because it is wood,so wood was the best sounding
that we had, so it's not audiowith a K there.
We also have the domain namefor not without the K, in case
you get confused, because it isconfusing, but I like it that
way and the link isn't will bein the description.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
It'll be right there.
You can just can click on it.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So, anyways, we tried .
It was actually sort of by luck, as life changers would have
you say.
Maybe Gaia is that, is that howthis works sent me in the right
direction by having me go outto the garage with the right
grab the right to buy for andguy.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Do you know what Gaia is?
Where you continue Gaia is astreaming service.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Okay, that doesn't sound right.
I thought it would be like theMother Earth, gaia, because
that's that's also maybe themythology side of it.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Maybe.
Yes, yes, I'm laughing atpeople that are listening like
yeah, I know exactly what he'stalking about.
Mike, number one, figure outyour stuff.
So yeah, yeah, yeah, go sorry.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Okay.
So anyway, the universe then,yeah, brought it all together
that I go out to the garage andget a random two by four.
I don't know what project I wasgoing to have for it, but I cut
it up into a sound board andadded a voice coil to the
backside of it, and it actuallysounded really good.
(07:46):
So I go out to the garage andlike, well, that was great, let
me do it again.
I'll have a stereo left rightpair.
And it didn't sound very good.
I'm like now, what?
Why?
Why did the first one work in?
The second one doesn't?
So I tried a third one and itsounded like the second one.
So I was like, okay,something's repeatable here, but
not in the way that I want itto be.
(08:07):
So I tried again a bunch ofdifferent species of wood
hardwood, softwoods and foundone that is grown locally here
in Canada and we can source it,and it sounds very good.
Actually, there are three thatsounded very good, but one was
West Coast, one is over here,not a very commercially
(08:29):
available wood, so challengingto find.
But again, the universe put itall in front of me and and so we
have it.
So again trying couple dozendifferent types of wood and
different other materials, putit all together and found that
you can actually even add aposter to the front of it, and
now you can have artwork in yourhouse.
(08:50):
That is a speaker.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
And like that's.
It's amazing to me how like,yeah, it's a piece of wood and,
like you, the latest one you Isaw had like the frame and the
artwork in it is like beautiful,and then it still happens.
One of my customers are likethey call me up to like, hey,
mike, like what's up, like weactually need you to court us on
(09:13):
getting a system, a PA system,in one of our rooms, in our
buildings, in one of thecommunity centers.
So can you find us a quote forthis?
That I'm like, have you metMike, other Mike, mike to like,
yeah, I could work on this.
And then I was thinking aboutMike and then you called me that
yeah, that was yesterday, Ithink a couple days ago, couple
(09:34):
of days ago.
And then you called me and thenI was like, how do you like,
hey, yeah, be awesome if you cancome over, or something like
that.
And you're like, well, I'mactually on my way.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, I asked if you're in the in the office
because I was picking upcontacts, I think as a
obtometous office, I think, andso just down the street here and
so I was like, hey, are youaround?
You're like yeah, and then youcall me and I'm like I'll be
there in like five minutes.
Less than that, like 30 secondsreally.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I ruined the surprise Way to go, mike.
But yeah, and then I was like,hey, you know, I just had a
customer literally just call meand ask me for a PA system.
And it's not because I'm lazyand don't want to do the work,
people, it's because I, you know, not, audio is amazing sounds
like, hey, I know you're not atmanufacturing stage for, but can
(10:22):
this be a project we can workon and send and like we can go
up and install it and all thatwe're talking about?
And he's like yeah, so we'reworking on that and like I'm
hoping this will be like.
You know, the universe is wayof like, hey, how you guys met
was pretty funny.
And now it's for a reason andhere's the purpose, right, I
couldn't figure it out becausewhen I met you, you were
(10:43):
actually working on a differentproject and I was like, oh, that
project sounds cool, it soundsamazing.
Maybe I can pitch it to thehotels and stuff like that,
right.
And I believe it was somethingthat folds laundry like sheets
and stuff Sheet folding.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, sheets and towels, which seems like it's
still a good idea, but it seemslike a bit much for what my wife
and I would be able to doourselves, versus having to hire
too many people, and we aren'treally at the stage for needing
funding or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, and like they're folding I'm going to
make it sound stupid, they'refolding my job the thing that
you like the prototype you wereshowing us I think you were
showing us the videos and allthat it's something that I know
will work because you're helpingthe industry, because people
sit in there folding all day,every day, for like hundreds of
towels, thousands of towels.
You know it gives you carpaltunnel probably, you know, sore
(11:38):
arms or whatever.
So this is actually going tohelp the industry.
And then, but like it justturns out that I guess the
universe is like hey, mike,number two, have you met the
wood here that can make music?
But like when they told usabout it, they just also like
holy smokes, why don't you guyswork on this project?
They got to the point wherethey got the website, they got
(11:59):
the manufacturing figured out,like on their end, where they're
doing it with suppliers andstuff which get in the wood like
sounded like a pain in the assto be on.
And it so happens to be likewhere I go up north a lot
there's a lot of this wood justchilling up there, but it's hard
to get.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah.
So it's actually a little bitfunny as well for finding this
specific wood.
So again, the first two by four.
That was very good sounding.
We tried to recreate it,finding the exact same type of
two by four how it looked.
I brought a small piece of it toHome Depot and was bringing it,
(12:34):
like comparing it to all thedifferent ones there.
And it's hardly used for two byfours, it's mostly just left
there.
No one, no one actuallyharvests it for anything.
So I was like this sucks.
So anyways, I go to one of thetimber yards and say, do you
have this wood?
And they're like, oh yeah, it'sthis one here.
And I'm like, oh great, that'sawesome.
(12:55):
And turns out it wasn't thatwood that they said it was.
So that was unfortunate.
I ended up getting around 600or so board feet in total of
this not correct wood.
And they also said, here, takea buy from us, but take a two by
four of this other one we justcut.
(13:16):
So they actually have the logsand they're sawing them at the
time, so it's dripping wet oflike sap and all that kind of
stuff and I'm like, yeah, I'lltake it, I'll see what happens.
And so, being that it wasentirely green.
It was.
I had to wait about two monthsbefore it would be dry enough
that it wouldn't twist too muchfor my usage of it.
(13:37):
So I ended up trying all theother different types of wood
and was kind of giving up thatfinding the right supplier was
going to be very challenging.
And then all of a sudden I waslike, ok, I'm going to try this
one.
Finally, it's probably dryenough now.
I felt it felt lighter andeverything, and so cut it into a
(13:59):
soundboard and added the voicecoil to it and listening to it
it was like this is different.
This is definitely differentthan the other two that also
sound almost identical to eachother, but this one adds more
bass, which is weird, becausebass is kind of the problem that
we've been dealing with thiswhole time.
(14:20):
And so finding this wood nowthat was sort of by chance that
I went to the right lumber yardor sawmill that had this being
cut at the time, otherwise Iprobably wouldn't have ended up
with it.
It's not super expensive of awood, but it is hard to find,
which is the biggest problemthen.
So it's a lot of the universereally just saying maybe this is
(14:44):
my destiny, if that's what youwould call it.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah, it's funny because I try to tell it, like
explaining to people.
Is it luck?
People will be like, well, hey,mike, one of my two, it's just
luck that all this stuff'shappened.
You know what?
Call it what you want.
Call it luck.
Call it fate.
Call it the hand of God.
Call it Gaia.
Gaiacom is sponsored by thisepisode.
Please give me money, guys.
(15:09):
But yeah, I believe it's higherthan that because, like, just
think about if I did not go tothat.
So it was a business like gettogether, I guess in the
community, probably about what,like 35 minutes away from here.
Yeah, a different city with a goto, and so we're just going
around talking to people and youknow, the small businesses,
(15:30):
people, they all get togetherand you know, talk to each other
and pretty much we're trying tosell each other on each other's
stuff.
You're right, you're like, hey,do you guys need some folding
machines?
And I'm like, hey, do you needsome?
Well, you don't need thisbecause you don't live in the
Arctic.
But I also got fireworks whatfireworks, mike?
Or smoke bombs.
Right, it's just us trying tosell each other.
(15:50):
But like I know it was weirdbecause I think our wives talked
first.
I met you first and we swappedcards and I was like I will go
to my wife and I was like, hey,I was just talking to this guy
named Mike and it's pretty cool,they're machining all that.
I'm like you know, and I own adistribution company, maybe I
can help distribute it.
Like I just want to help people, like I just think my mission
is to help people and I'm likethat'd be awesome.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And she's like I just met a girl who, I think, didn't
have any more business cards atthe time, and so they just
exchange phone numbers rightaway.
So then my wife comes up to meand she's like we have a date
and I'm like what?
Pretty much.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
And my wife was like I think we made a friend.
I'm like oh who are thesepeople?
And then I was like, hey,that's, that's Mike, mike number
two.
So then we're just like hangingout and talking.
I'm like, so we're going to befriends.
Do you guys want to be friendswith me?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, as hard.
As an adult, you kind of haveto just go up to someone and say
, hey, we have a few things incommon.
Do you want to be friends?
Because as a kid you're inthose situations like you're
around the people all the time,but as an adult I don't ever
have to see you again if I don'twant to, and it's easy to just
sort of put the barriers up andjust say I'm not willing to put
myself out there.
(17:02):
But then now you're like maybe,maybe we could be friends.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Right, and that brings us to the bulk of the I
guess the meat on the bone ofthis episode of just stop
limiting yourself.
He liked my intro.
I like I didn't know where thisis going yet, so he really
doesn't know that there's noscript, as most of you got like
we didn't write a script.
I wasn't going to tell him,just like I got an idea.
Mike, trust me, put theheadphones on, let's talk.
(17:32):
But no, it's, we limitourselves way too much.
Like you're saying how like wehave to put ourselves out there.
It's easier to be like, hey, no, I'm just going to stay home
and not go to this event.
Right, it was snowing.
Was it snowing that day?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
No, it might have been freezing rain.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, Like it seemed like it was a crappy day to go
drive you know three to 35minutes somewhere in the country
to this little town, but I knowwe did it.
And then, hey, we were inFrance for a year now.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, it's pretty much our friend.
Diversity now too.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
See, happy friend of Earth, right, like his wife's
laughing.
She doesn't want to make asound because she doesn't
believe me that like I likethese, these microphones are
good, but like we have to likebe close enough that you're
making out with the microphonetoo.
So she probably laughed and youwon't hear nothing.
Which is good for the world ofthe studio is because sometimes
(18:24):
big trucks drive by and then Iwould hear it if I was using an
amazing microphone that's calledRod Road.
Oh, yeah, road.
I remember the joke I made Road.
I'm French, we do everythingwrong for odd no, and it was a
directional mic and it wasreally sounded nice and Mike was
.
Mike too was telling me how itsounds.
Just like you in person.
(18:45):
I'm like I don't know if peoplelike that, but when I tested it
we never use the audio becauseyou can hear trucks driving by.
It's too good of a microphone.
I need a real soundproof studio.
But I digress.
But yeah, we limit ourselvesway too much how we put
ourselves back.
It's up to us to decide ifwe're going to be successful or
not.
We're like Remember when we metwe were talking about the
(19:09):
machine and I was just likeexcited for you and then, I
guess then a couple months later, like we want hung out on a, we
did like what do you call thosethings?
Escape room, escape room.
We almost didn't escape people.
We will still be there today.
But yeah, then we startedhanging out, becoming friends
and then then out of the blue,like you were like hey, here's a
(19:31):
piece of wood, listen to themusic.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, it was it was almost six months later.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Actually it's been six months, oh, just five, four,
having fun.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, it's been over six months now of working on it,
but yeah, I think it wasroughly six months later.
I was like Do you want to, doyou want to listen to this, this
thing that I made?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
and so the question I have for you I don't know if I
asked you in the moment, butwhat made you decide To like?
I know you were mentioning alittle bit how it's kind of like
you know luck or fate or Gaia,I'm bringing you towards this
for the universe guiding you.
So what made you?
What was the aha moment thatmade you decide like you're
going all in on this investment?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
So I guess, to back up to say why we even started, I
say we, my wife and I, I.
So we moved to a new house andwe were trying to remove the
texture ceiling for us when wewere I, I guess, we're ordering
a couch.
So we had lived here for sixmonths or something like that
(20:32):
and finally said let's finallybuy a couch.
We, we can't live like thisanymore.
And we had guests that weregonna be coming to stay with us
in a couple months.
So we had a little bit of time.
So we ordered one on Costco and, sure enough, it arrives very
quickly.
So I was like, okay, I need tosand this ceiling because I
don't want to have this texture.
I don't want to deal with thiswhen we have a couch.
So I'm just Boreding off theentire living room and just
(20:55):
spending around like two weeksjust scraping the this paint off
anyways.
So my wife says so I wasthinking about like the artwork
that you want to have on thewalls, can we Put a speaker
behind art?
And I was like, maybe I'm busyso you could buy some speakers
(21:17):
and some canvases and and seewhat happens.
And so she does, and so shedoes it.
And then she's like oh, can youwire this for me?
So I did and anyways it soundedlike crap.
It just sounded very, verybadly.
And Then she says I found adifferent video that uses a
different technology and wemight be able to use the canvas
(21:40):
to be a speaker.
And I was like, okay, that'scool, I'm busy, go ahead.
So she did, and it soundedpretty bad.
But then we followed differenttutorials on what other people
have used and it worked, butoverall it still didn't sound
(22:01):
very good.
And Then I I took one of thesevoice coils and I attached it to
an acoustic guitar that I had,but I guess just recently taken
back from.
My sister was Holding on to itfor a while, as I was sort of
transient.
So anyways, I had thisavailable and I was like that
sounds really good.
Like that, that sounds likevery good, actually like it
(22:23):
sounds like it's live.
So I was like this is doable,this was made, it could be made
again.
So went out to the garage,grabbed the 2x4 for the earlier
story and then Thought we hadthe, the right material, thought
we had the right wood, got the600 or so board feet of it and
it wasn't, but it was close.
(22:43):
It sounded very good.
It was actually better thanmost commercial speakers that I
was comparing against, not asgood as my 1970s banging Olson
speakers, but it was good, andso I was like, okay, this has
been made, this can be madeagain, I can do this.
And we started to figure outdifferent ways that we could
(23:08):
turn this into a full product,and I Guess it was around a
month after that.
So I guess we had showed you acouple different options.
You said which one sounded thebest and it was.
It was sort of at that pointthat once we felt like we were
comfortable showing anyone else,it was really the sign for
ourselves that it's good enough.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, that's awesome, that like just out of the blue,
right, there's an ass your wifewanted, there's a necessity,
right?
Hey, I want a nice picture.
I don't want a speaker to siton the wall, I want it to look
nice.
And then you guys found allthis technology and now you're
just making it better and makingit your own and you actually go
out and, like you justmentioned earlier, try to all
this different wood.
Yeah, and like that must havebeen a lot of work because like
(23:50):
he's taking two by fours andlike I Don't know, playing them,
sound them down into littlelittle sections and glue in the
mall.
I was a big process.
It seems like his patience,mike.
Number two is good.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
He's a hard worker.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Like and you have a background right like an
engineering or something likethat.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, so I actually have two bachelor's degrees one
in mechanical engineering, onein electrical engineering and a
master's degree in electricalengineering with focus on RF and
radar.
So it's not exactly audio butit's.
So I mean, audio signals arecreated by electrical, so that's
(24:28):
that's sort of the electricalside.
It is a frequency kind of thing, so it's not necessarily like
Several gigahertz frequencies,like radar would be, but it's
not all that different for thefundamentals.
And of course, speakers arevery mechanical by nature.
That they're they're combiningthe electrical signal and
transforming it into aMechanical wave, that's the
(24:52):
pressure wave that you hear.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
He's smart.
Don't worry, it's not like Ican build this.
You need to be smart and belike smart like Mike and his
wife.
It was funny because after meand my wife were like we have
smart friends.
Oh, we're like we got an act,not stupid, I'm gonna act smart.
I'm gonna work glasses that Idon't need to be.
No, but like you have no ideayou have to do, you have on your
(25:23):
website some audio of your.
I guess it doesn't.
It's kind of catch 22?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
right, it's.
It's hard because how do weconvince someone that this
actually sounds good?
We can provide charts, we cangive them graphs of the
frequency response, but unlessyou know what you're looking at,
it doesn't help.
So for us, if if I played you arecording that came from our
speaker, it sounds bad becauseit was recorded twice and it's
(25:50):
fine.
I know it sounds good.
If you hear it in person, itsounds good, but if you listen
to it on your computer or onyour iPhone or headphones or
anything, you're hearing a, aRecording of a recording on a
different device that alreadyChanges the sound for what you
hear.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, that's gonna be hard.
Hmm, I was there any pointwhere you're just like you know
what.
Whatever, I'm not gonna show itfor myself.
I'm done with this.
This is crazy.
Like what?
Am I thinking we're gonna Makea speaker out of wood, all the?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
time.
I Wish I could even count howmany times I'm like I don't know
if we should do this anymore.
Maybe we should just give upbecause it's it's so much easier
just to say no, I can findsomething else.
What is that other thing?
I don't know.
I'll figure it out at somepoint, but this is too hard.
It's.
It's hard to keep going.
It's hard to say, yeah, this,this wood that I thought it was,
(26:44):
actually doesn't sound thatgreat in the end and I've now
spent Hours, I've spent weeks,I've spent months working on
this how many of the lessonsthat I learned from it actually
go to the next thing?
I don't know.
It's, it's kind of independent,like the dimensions that I
learned from this other woodthat I got the 600 board feet of
(27:06):
Is not helpful, because I don'tknow how much of it translates
to this other thing.
Is it a?
Is it a starting point?
I mean kind of, but it depends.
So I Feel like it was probablylike a couple dozen times
probably every type of wood thatI tried.
I had fun, but it's frustratingat the same time.
It's hard to Continue and notjust feel like I don't know if
(27:29):
this is even doable becauseAnother question that sort of my
mom would always say is well,if you have such a good idea,
why hasn't anyone else done it?
You know I mean I get it, but atthe same time you're like, well
, why would someone have donethis?
How could they have found thiswould?
Most of the speakermanufacturers out there aren't
from Canada, so if this wood islocal to Canada, then Well,
(27:50):
maybe.
But also Maybe they did try it,maybe they they did something
and they gave up and I didn't.
So is it perseverance?
Is it just sticking through?
Is it stubbornness?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Maybe, but I mean we have something that sounds good
and and like I'm not even beingbiased, like we're friends to
the point where I'd be like hey,mike, number two, this sucks,
burn it.
But I was just impressed withhow, yeah, you could do that,
like I remember I was evenasking like hey, can you make my
walls turn into music?
But yeah, like jib rock.
If it was not jib rock, if itwas, I mean it actually doesn't
(28:23):
sound too bad, but it'll sounddifferent, I guess.
But no, it's amazing.
You have to check out theirwebsite once again.
It's not audio with a carry,yeah, and you also have it as
not as with redirects.
Yeah, it redirects to them, butit's not audio.
Calm, and the picture you seeat the top with their speaker,
that's within the studio.
My studio is nice.
(28:44):
It's not as good as I want itto be because, well, took a lot
of editing from his wife to makeit look good in here.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
We had to start with a good photo to start with, but
then little magic Photoshop.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, but that was in the studio, so you get a
glimpse of the microphone thanthat picture.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, the one that you make out with.
Yeah, I get really close to it.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
That's why you want looking over to make sure I
don't peek on the Thing of mybarber here.
That goes up and out.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I thought you're just looking at the time to see if
you finally kick me out.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
No, no, we're only a halfway point.
At this point, sorry, people goto us for another 30 minutes
his wife's like, oh crap, ICan't wait to get out of here.
But no, it is easy just to giveup on anything, right?
You watch all these movies andthese TV shows and you're like,
hey, no, these people, you'rewatching people live their dream
, right, and the movies, tvshows.
You get all excited andemotional for them.
(29:34):
And then you get all excitedthat I'm gonna go out and do
something right.
And Then you take one step andyou're like, ah, maybe tomorrow,
right?
So imagine if he said maybetomorrow, made tomorrow, and
maybe this opportunity came toyou by luck or by the universe
or by whatever.
And if you like, man, whateverI'm done, I did my best, it's
too hard to find the wood andall that.
Then somebody else was morepersevering, study came across
(29:56):
it and Then ten years later,like Could have been me right,
like I've been talking aboutrunning, like years ago Probably
about 13 years ago beforepodcast, and all that became
like really cool that we I'veshould done like a podcast and I
had a friend that we're gonnado it with.
Now we're just gonna be likethe pessimist and the ost
optimist.
I was gonna say the awesome.
(30:16):
Now we're just gonna talk aboutlike news and crap, and just
like he's gonna be the pessimist, I was gonna be the optimist
and we're gonna try to findmiddle ground and just make it a
fun Happy-go-lucky podcast.
And imagine, if I did that thenwhere it would be today right,
maybe we, I, would have beenmore successful.
And then this podcast itselfright, like just to start today
where I'm like okay we're gonnado this, mike.
(30:37):
We're gonna do this.
Let's go get dinner.
Right, we'll do it the nexttime, next time, right, there's
always the next time.
There's always a tomorrow,there's always a later.
But we really have to live inthe now and show up for
ourselves and I know in thefirst season I had talked a
little bit about this.
But you really do have to showfor yourself and you control
(30:59):
your own destiny.
You know people are listeninglike oh Mike, you just said the
universe guided all this stuffto happen, so you're not really
in control your destiny.
No, no, the opportunity is calm.
Do you take them, do you notright?
What's that song from Eminem?
It's first one that made himpop away.
Lose yourself, yeah, does it?
Lose yourself when he's like?
You know, one opportunity, onechance blah, blah, blah blah.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I'm not a rapper, so maybe, if I'm big enough, we
could play it on my speaker.
If I had brought it, see, wecould have listened to it in the
studio.
I'd be like that's right now.
You know, a good thing we don'thave cameras in here.
The desk is pretty dirty.
I was like iPad, laptop,paperwork, phones.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
But I digress Anyways .
I think it's very easy to lookat someone else's success and
say, well, that's, that wasobvious.
But in hindsight it was obviousthey still had to do it, they
still had to put the effort inyour like.
Well, of course that was goingto work.
But how do you get to the pointwhen you start something to say
, I know this will be successfulbecause probably won't.
(31:58):
Like, we had a differentproject that we were working on
before.
It didn't work.
Well, what about the one beforethat?
It also didn't work.
What about the one before that?
It also didn't work.
So, not even just the speakers,because that was its own
perseverance, but it was.
You have to know when to foldyour cards to accept a new
opportunity.
But at the same time, now thatwe'll have this speaker and
(32:20):
we're like, oh, this works.
Well, obviously it was going towork and we should have just
started with that.
But part of it was we didn'thave the space before, before we
had moved up here, and wedidn't have the tools because we
didn't have the space.
So we couldn't have made thisso things.
Even if we had this idea, Iprobably would have given up on
the thought even sooner, becauseit wasn't feasible unless I had
(32:44):
the right equipment.
And so if I was in thistownhouse that we were in before
, I had a miter saw in thegarage and a CNC machine in the
basement I think that was prettymuch it for tools and like a
hand jigsaw and stuff like that.
I could not have made this.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Right, and like everything just seems to have
worked out perfectly and, likeyou know, for me, like so here's
this question for you, becauseyou've only known me for a year.
I'm like I was even talking.
So we recently hired a newemployee and I was talking with
him and we're talking.
He's like, yeah, no, this is anamazing brand.
And we were talking a littlebit about life changers and
stuff like that and he was like,oh yeah, you know, that makes
(33:27):
sense, right, like I was talkingabout the law of attraction and
stuff.
But I have friends that I'mclose with that seen me do a lot
of the things he can we talkabout that seem me live and
start changing the way I startedlooking at things.
I stopped being like, you know,oh well, I'll never be
successful, I'll never be richbecause I was always told to be
poor.
Or, you know, I'll never berich because I was never given
(33:48):
that opportunity.
Right, my friends that are richand they have all the success
because their parents hookedthem up and blah, blah, blah.
There's always an excuse not toshow for yourself, but the
people seem to change, and theway.
Even my friend that was with mewhen I was taught, teaching him
about.
When I did the experiment and Iknow I talked to you about it a
little bit when I did thecasino thing and I was like I'm
not here to gamble.
You know, just about to frame amind and all that you must have
(34:10):
been like this guy's crazyHoney, let's go.
We don't want to be friendswith crazy, but like it's
amazing to me how people see medo what I do and some of you
make a, you know, a profit.
You're doing my experiment andstuff like that and seen how
things changed, just by the wayI thought and changed by using
(34:31):
that book from Dr Joe to spend.
I called breaking the habit ofbeing yourself.
It's a good book, check it out.
On audible and audible.
You sponsored me.
Amen, I want to monetize, butI'm how, just like you got to
take control for yourself andshow for yourself and decide
that like, yes, I'm going totake responsibility for my
failures and my success andthat's really all we have to do.
(34:55):
And so I mean you didn't reallyI guess you know me for a year
you didn't really see metransform into this.
But when I talked to you about,like law of attraction, the
universe is providing for me, orwhen I'm like hey, this is how
I see the world and how Iunderstand it and it works for
me.
And you know, when we talkabout it, because we're friends,
I don't expect you to be likeyeah, mike, you're good.
(35:16):
Yeah, I agree with you, right.
And like you know, you tell mehow it is and you tell me if I'm
being crazy or not Usually onlyif you ask.
But here's the question andthis, like law of attraction and
like the way of thinking, likeI know, as we hang out more and
more, you'll see more and moreof things I'm going to do and
things I'm changing and how I'mgoing to create my own reality.
(35:37):
And what do you think aboutthat?
Like, have you heard stuff likethis before?
Like, when I heard about itwhen I was younger like at 18,
19, I thought people are nuts.
I was like so you're telling meI'm just going to make a vision
board, I'm not going to put on amillion dollar house.
Well, a million dollar houseright now in Ontario is a shed.
So let's go to Toronto andGoogle, you pick up my garage so
like a little shed there for1.5 million, but anyways, but
(36:01):
yeah, you have your dream home.
You have your dream.
This and like that movie calledthe secret of the book, called
the secret.
That came out back when I wasyounger, long time ago, because
it was like 22 years ago when Ifirst heard about this.
But I was like these people arestupid, they're nuts for
believing this, but like they'renot showing you the full thing
in those videos.
(36:21):
I think is because yeah if youcreate your own reality, like I
always say, like I got to createmy success and I show up for
myself and that works for mebecause, well, I believe it to
work for me right.
And and there's something to it, because when I did my test and
I did change the way I thoughtof you know, instead of me
(36:44):
chasing money and chasing thisand chasing success, no, I am
successful, right, I'm going toyou know, as they say, right, as
law of attraction, you act likeyou already have what you want
and then you live it and thenyou create that energy, that
universal energy that goes outin the world, and then, when
those opportunities come, you'lljust take them and do them.
But it's still up to you if youwant to be successful or not.
(37:05):
And I'm like, but I don't know,it's, it's not, I don't know,
I'm just rambling here but itmight sound crazy to some people
, so I bring it to you likenumber two.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
So I guess, if you look at it from a sort of
scientific perspective, like ifyou're looking at like the, the,
like the statistics, I guessbehind it and stuff, um, there's
Tar's target fixation.
Man, this is tough for me tosay.
I wasn't planning this.
It's a lot of big words that ifyou are approaching an accident
with a deer in the road orsomething like that, um, you're
(37:42):
trying to avoid the deer bystaring at it.
You're actually aiming towardit, you're.
So it has good and bad.
That if you're saying I'm goingto hit this deer, I'm going to
hit this deer, I'm going to hitthis deer, how do I avoid this?
You're not focused on the howdo I avoid this?
You're saying I'm going to hitthis deer, so you do, and your
aim straight at it.
You did nothing to avoid it,and so that's sort of a law of
(38:03):
attraction kind of thing that ifyou said this is my destiny,
this is my goal, I'm going tohit this, I'm going to hit it,
and so part of it's a mentality,part of it is scientifically
legit, I guess.
But it's also the same sort ofthing of if you um, I guess to
bring up the point that you hadsaid before, you're presented an
opportunity, you have to knowto take it.
(38:25):
If you aren't fixated on theidea of taking that opportunity,
how will you take it?
Cause you didn't even see it asan opportunity unless you were
already planning for that, thatfuture of yourself.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, and it's like um, I don't know if I ever
mentioned this joke before inone of my other podcasts, but
it's like the joke or the storyof the guy who's like just lost
his job and he's like you know,you know, please, universe, or
he's praying, please, god, youknow, give me a million dollars.
Or please, universe, give me amillion dollars or let me win
the lottery.
I need to make money because Ijust lost my job.
(38:57):
And the lottery comes and go.
He doesn't win.
Then he's like well, he's losthis house, he's losing his car.
No, I was like please, you know, please, hook me up with this
lottery and his praying andpraying for this lottery, right,
and then comes and goes.
He doesn't win, his familyleaves them.
Come on, my family left me, Ilost my house on my job.
And he's freaking out.
Why have you fork sakin me?
You know why?
What's going on?
(39:17):
And then you know it's like youknow God comes down and is like
hey man, how's it going?
You know, I'm just like oh, whyare you not forsaking me what's
going on?
Well, hey, at least buy alottery ticket if you want to
win bud.
And it's true, if you just sitthere and same with the law of
attraction and I mentioned thisbefore to over and over and over
(39:38):
if you're going to sit thereand saying I'm a millionaire,
I'm successful, and you just sitin your room, do nothing, or
I'm just going to sit here andI'm the millionaire, I'm the
most successful podcaster in theworld, but I don't have a
podcast name, I don't even havepodcast equipment.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
I.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Don't believe my house right.
It's not gonna happen if youdon't take the opportunity to
meet halfway.
So you know, I know I like youmentioned it and I've mentioned
another episodes of my thingit's not like success Just like.
Here you go, you gotta learn alot of stuff along the way.
I've learned and worked anddone all these crazy and fun
ideas that were like obviouslysupposed to be successful but
(40:19):
that weren't.
But I learned a lot from it andwhen you're learning as you're
going through, then you finallyget that Right for you.
I predict here's my predictionyou heard it here from Mike
number one.
Mike from life changers.
Is that like when he won a,mike number two presented me
like number one?
Okay, when you show me thatthing and I just like whoa, this
(40:45):
is like Finally like your, andas your, your product is, it's
gonna be you.
This is gonna be maybe not yourlegacy, but this is gonna be
your one like oh, and thenyou're gonna re, rinse and
repeat and you're gonna makemore and more and you're just
gonna keep on growing, kind oflike.
I've been running my owncompany since I was like 18, 19
(41:07):
years old and only sit in 2019.
What?
Four years ago, I finally gotthe when I don't have to push
and live, contract to contractand try to put, and then all
these ideas just floated andlike I'm just like, oh and it's
all, because I finally decidedto show up for myself, changed
the way I think of well, nothinggood is gonna happen to me,
(41:30):
because only good things happento people that are already
successful and blah, blah, blah,blah.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Or lucky or whatever Right, also easy to say in
hindsight.
That was a good idea.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Yes, you know, many times I've said Like I thought
of that before became a thing,but now it's a thing, so it's
not, you sat and did nothing.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Of course it didn't work out for you.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
How come I'm not rich , then, mike?
But no, like you mentionedright, when you're focused on
don't do this, I don't hit thedeer, or don't be like, don't,
don't be lazy, or you know, ohum, I Can't be successful
because you know this is gonnahappen, this is gonna happen, or
I don't have the money, I don'thave this, I don't have that.
Well, all that is creating whenyou say I don't have, I don't
(42:09):
have, I don't have, is more lackof their off, so you're not
gonna get it.
Yeah and See, mike might notmake number two, might not agree
with you, know the how Ipresent with a lot of attraction
to that, but he did use scienceand my benefit, so thank you
very much.
So for all you science peoplethat have been down to me you
heard it here first about mynumber two.
But no, and I say this over andover, don't take what I say and
(42:33):
like, take it as like you know,law or whatever.
These are my stories, my upthings that work for me and I
encourage people to find whatworks for them and I encourage
people to live like happy golucky, like my motto, right?
Akuna Montana is such awonderful phrase means no
(42:55):
worries, right?
And that's how I live.
I don't really Care about things.
Why get stressed for thingsthat you can't control?
Like sometimes I joke aroundlike my wife's all stressed out
tonight.
That's why we're in the studio,hide everybody.
You think he's joking, but like, and I'm just like you know
(43:15):
it's hard for me because likeit's when you get stressed, it's
it's honestly.
Yeah, there's a lot of outsidefactors that can stress you, but
in the bottom line it becomesto you to be like, are you gonna
be stressed and frustratedtoday?
Or are you gonna just come toMontana right Like, are you
gonna Let this opportunity gobecause of whatever, all this or
(43:36):
that, or?
Well, poor me.
Sorry, mike you know, all thewould you want to use doesn't
exist anymore.
Right, there was a lot thisyear, but you didn't let that
stop you.
And it's so easy to be aquitter.
But what's crazy and what I'mlearning is it's easier to show
(43:59):
up for yourself, not give a shitabout anything else in the
world, but except your realityand what makes you happy, and
Just live your moment andunderstand that you are in full
control of your moment andyou're in full control Of what
is happening in your world.
You can choose to be successful.
(44:19):
And people are like, oh no, no,it's so stupid.
I used to think the same thing,but do it.
I Could sit here complain to myfriend, mike number two, about
how, like, oh, I don'tunderstand.
You know, I've been trying allthese diets and trying to get
skinny, and willing onmeditating to get skinny, and
(44:40):
then he's like well, how manytimes have you got up and walk
to work?
Well, one, because I had to,just once that I drive the five
minutes right now.
What I mean.
So it's not anybody's faultthat I'm not happy with you know
, my body size or whatever, butit's me, it's my fault.
I have nobody to blame.
And it's funny because, likeyou know, everybody blames
(45:02):
everybody else for theirsituation.
It's easier.
It is easier I could blame, youknow I'm.
I could blame I don't knowfireworks, because when I light
fireworks off, when I was youngand dumb I didn't wear your
protection, and now I'm like hey, can you hear me, mike?
Speaker 2 (45:19):
And he's like my headphones too loud.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
So I have a tune.
I think it's low Right.
I could blame, blame, blame,but in the end, take
responsibility for you and youractions, and there's nothing
else that could change that.
And people would be like all thetime well, somebody could
change, you know, changesomething about me, or you know
well you know, mike, number twohere could be like well, you
(45:43):
know I wanted to do all thisstuff and be successful about.
My wife told me to stay hometoday.
You know I can't go to see youat the studio, mike, because I'm
not gonna come home with food.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
She, she said it before You've already.
You already saw Mike number onetoday or like this week, so no,
times no, you don't need to seehim.
This I'm a pretty easy.
He's only like two minutes away.
I Can hear him cry.
I can see if he's free.
And then sometimes they're like, okay, let's go get groceries
or something, because we need tofeed the cat you whatever.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
But there's, you know , we could easily blame right,
and I used to do that.
I used to do the blame game andblame this, blame that, and oh,
I'm not rich because of this,or I got and it was funny, mike
number two here.
I was talking to him and hegoes have you ever thought of it
about it this way?
I remember how I was talking toyou about how I felt I got
screwed over right Because Icreated my original company way
(46:38):
back when.
Then I brought in somebody whowas a lot older than me.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Oh yeah, I was listening to your podcast.
I'm pretty far behind on them.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Oh, you're listening to that podcast yeah, so he's
listening to that podcast wastalking about how I started the
company and I was like, hey, yougot 50% of the profits this
year and then we'll negotiatelater.
And then when the contract cameabout, it was like 50%
Shareholder and I didn't knowwhat that means and I just
signed whatever.
But then, you know, mike waslike you know, you blame him,
(47:04):
you're putting it all on, he'sthe bad guy, but yet maybe he
mishurt you and he did it right,right, I think that's pretty
much along the line.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Also, like legally, he was just defining that he
would get that, like you said,verbally or even in a written
agreement, but it's no more wellwritten than in a shareholder
agreement that he has 50% of theshares, like if you say, this
is half of his profit, even ifit's only for the first year,
make a new company, startsomething new kind of thing, but
(47:34):
it's guaranteed to be half.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Yeah, no, and I, when he said that to me, I was just
like, huh, I Guess I shouldpractice what I preach.
I got nobody to blame aboutmyself For not be more clear and
sign of the day, but it's true,I look at all the situations
that might have stopped me fromdoing things or whatever, or
that you know prevented me fromdoing what I know I need to do,
like, for I'm sure, even thoughyou don't I don't know if you
(48:01):
don't care about the law ofattraction and I don't want to
put words in your mouth, butmaybe you think I'm a little
loopy, your science man, I likescience too, but anyways.
But I always felt like a little, still small voice or that
little feeling in your gut like,hey, do this, do that right.
And every time I listen to that, something good happens.
(48:22):
Oh Right, like.
And I've experienced thingswhere, you know, when it came to
that situation With thatindividual, when I had to, was
talking to him, had a littlething in my gut saying, no,
don't sign it, don't do this.
You know, trust me, trust meright.
And then I'm like.
I know what I'm doing, right, Idon't need you a universe, or I
don't need you, god.
I'm like I know what I'm doing,I'm better than you, right, and
(48:44):
then I just, you know, screwmyself over and All it is is
100%.
I don't know if you agree ornot, but it's self-sabotaging,
it's just.
I Believe I need to be poor.
I believed I needed to havereasons and excuses in my life,
so, love attraction I createdthem.
I didn't want to hit that moose, but I'm staring at the moose
and I'm Concentrated on themoose, so, of course, you're
(49:07):
gonna hit the moose.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Yeah, hard to say.
I think I was gonna say I thinkit.
It could be that you were Youngand naive and it was just a
learning opportunity, andhopefully not too expensive of
one.
But you learned from that howto how to structure a business
in the future, that you wouldn'thave to Share it with someone
else, that you weren't planningto, and that anything would just
(49:31):
be a contract from that pointor something.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
But yeah, I learned a lot of amazing things and see
it makes me feel good with allmy mistakes I made.
When you come up to me and askme a question about business,
I'm like I could tell you astory how I screwed that up.
So don't do this.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
You're like Season one, episode eight.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Pretty much right, but no.
So you know, once again, justlike Remember, even you, mike
number two, you are in controlof anything that you want to
happen in this world.
I know it sounds nuts.
I know people are like, okay,mike's been Smoking some weed up
there in Canada because it'severywhere getting into the
mushrooms but, no like the shitworks, man, and I'm not on your
(50:16):
action, I don't do that shit.
Oh, maybe my grossing, butanyways, I digress.
But no like for real.
This works for me 1,000%.
But it might not work for youbecause you have to find your
way, your module.
You have to reprogram yourselfand your way of thinking because
growing up my life, I wasalways taught how doesn't matter
(50:39):
how hard I work, how successfulI want to be, you'll never
happen.
And if I truly believe that,well, I limit myself and how.
Life's going to be a strugglebecause that's the way it's
supposed to be and it's supposedto be hard to make money, poor
me.
Right, mike, it's gonna be hardfor you to make your speaker
and be successful.
Mikey, it's gonna be reallyhard, right, and all this crap's
(50:59):
gonna happen to you, but itwon't happen to if you don't
want it to.
Because it's funny.
I look back at my life and I'mlike I actually got it pretty
good.
I'm not a negative person.
We know sometimes my ego goesnuts, as you heard in the last
two episodes, I'm alone in thewoods talking to spider, talking
to the spider and and stufflike that.
(51:20):
But In the end, when you justtrust yourself.
Trust, just trust.
Go with the flow.
Don't stress, don't worry, andlike for you.
You don't let all those Bumpsin the road of like, hey, they
told me the wrong.
Damn, I need this kind of wood.
That's not this kind of whatthese guys don't want.
You could have just given up,but mark my word not audio calm,
(51:44):
it's gonna be a product of thefuture.
Like I'm so excited.
Like I'm gonna get some for thestudio, I'm gonna get some for
my house and we're gonna work onthis contract to get some up
there and hopefully just blow itup and have this stuff taken
everywhere, because it's reallyamazing technology to me.
Like we're in 2023, people, andwe still have like speakers
(52:06):
made the same way Since the 70s,60s or whatever, right, and
we're in 2023.
Where's my flying cars?
Damn it.
So about time.
We got some amazing speakersthat are like artwork on the
wall and you could get printedany kind of thing on the canvas
and put it on there and make itlook beautiful.
Right, you could probably putmy family portrait on it, right,
probably?
Speaker 2 (52:27):
yeah, I mean anything , you can get printed it.
You know, vista printer staplesif they'll sponsor you to
whoever.
Whoever, please pay thispodcast.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
No, no, no, just buy it on, not audio.
Calm, you'll get it from vistaprint.
That makes the money.
But, yeah, like it's, it's, Idon't know it.
To me it's like, and like yousaid, right, like you could have
just been like this alreadybeen done or thought of blah,
blah, blah, right, but it's agood thing.
Even my podcast there'smillions of podcasts out there.
(52:56):
There's millions of good pot.
There's people like youlistening to it right now.
Exactly, you guys are amazing,like for listening.
But like, ah, just life isawesome, right, mike, yeah, yeah
, you weren't convincing one,one day at a time.
It does take one day at a time.
It is raining out there rightnow, but it could be snowing
(53:18):
what?
Speaker 2 (53:18):
do you prefer?
I like snow.
That's why I live in Canada.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
That is true.
Want to come with me to theArctic.
You won't like snow Afterdriving through some blizzards
up there and you can't seenothing.
It's fine.
That's why I look forward togoing Florida.
I'll do another podcast in thecloset when I'm in Florida.
People, I don't know if youlisten to that episode when I
was in the closet.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
Yeah, did you?
Yeah, it was one of the earlyones I heard of it.
Yeah cuz I said it soundeddifferent.
You're like, oh yeah, I was inthe closet and I was like, did
you tell your wife?
Speaker 1 (53:55):
Stop it.
But did you listen to the end?
I don't know if I put it justbefore the music kicks in, or
after the music You're allsweaty.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yeah, I'm like oh, this is so I'm disgusting.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
I love that part in because it was funny.
But what would you like toclose with Mikey?
What would you like to say tothe world?
What good thing would you wantto say to the universe that can
help people?
Speaker 2 (54:16):
Um, good enough.
If you feel like something's arisk worth taking, just take it.
Just try, because if you don'ttry something then you won't
have a chance.
And so if that's, if that's thelaw of attraction in your eyes,
or something like, if you, ifyou want something, try for it,
and if it doesn't work out, thendon't necessarily give up
entirely, but Don't don't writeit off.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
It's a learning experience for the next project,
cuz all of my failures to thisdate is what brought me to where
I'm at today, and I know you'veprobably testified.
Testify, mikey, the same thing,right.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
I mean.
Everything where you are inlife right now is a product of
your history.
Everything that led in yourpast is to where you are today,
and All you can control is yourtrajectory.
So it's where you're aimingyourself for the future.
Whether you like, you can't goto the future, but you can aim
yourself in the right way.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
I just saw something pop up said writing error.
Hopefully it doesn't script thepodcast.
That'd be unfortunate.
It disappeared now.
Oh Well, hopefully it soundsgood, cuz I'm not gonna check
the audio.
But Thank you very much, mike,for coming.
Mike, number two, it's fun tosay that.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
Thanks for inviting me, even though I didn't know I
was gonna sign up for this whenI showed up for dinner today.
Oh crime, your friend.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
So anybody who's listening, who please check out
the website at not audio comm,it's spelled with a K or the
other way to get Redirected andsend him a message saying, hey,
you sounded great on the podcast.
Then he knows like hey maybethis podcast is something I
should go on again.
I Need more guests.
Okay, I'm sitting here alone inhere and I'm just getting bored
(55:56):
, but I just want to leave youwith this message to all my
listeners out there all two ofyou Is you know what you are
awesome, you're amazing, anddon't give up like life is as
beautiful as you want to make it.
So if you feel like you're in arut, if you feel like you've
been kicked and kicked down orpushed down or just not doing
(56:18):
too Well, just remember thatyou're awesome, you're amazing
and that you could change.
Just by the way you think it'slike the placebo effect of how
you.
Science is the placebo effect.
Right, just be happy.
Be know that there's a brighterside.
Know that you control how youfeel and choose and I know it
sounds crazy, but just trust me,just be like you know what.
(56:39):
I'm gonna be happy today.
I'm gonna choose to be happyand find happiness and find good
people, and stop finding thosepeople that put me down and On
and on and on right, and justuse this motto I'll allow you to
use.
I'm gonna leave you with alittle song.
We're all gonna have fun instudio after I turn this off,
but just honestly, happy, golucky puppies and rainbows.
For you know, just picture meprancing around puppies and
(56:59):
rainbows.
Life's amazing, right, but itreally is if you choose for it
to be, if that's the reality youwant to attract and the version
that you want to see, and Justyeah, the amazing motto for me
that got me through life andstill get me through life,
because I'm not that old Dorm,no.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
I'm done now, guys.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
But just a Kuna Matata, right, a Kuna Matata
motherfucker, but no, a KunaMatata.
It really means there's noworries, just live happy and
enjoy life and the.
Once again, thank you very muchfor listening to the podcast.
I thank you, mike, for comingagain, and please click the link
in the description for notaudio.
Calm and you guys are amazing.
(57:37):
Keep up the good work and getready for the next episode.
It's only gonna get better fromhere.
See, if this episode was crapto you, just know listen to the
next one and the one after that,cuz it'll only get better, it
can't get worse.
Thank you very much and I loveeverybody.
Take it easy.
Hi, welcome to the episode of life changers, and
this is Mike.
Today, we have a special guest.
His name is Mike.
Welcome to the show, mike.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Thanks, mike.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
So today is just gonna be Mike and Mike.
That can be too confusing forpeople.
Do you know?
Can you tell the differencebetween the mics?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, this mic is in front of me, so I think this mic
belongs to Mike here?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yes, there's two.
There's actually like four micsin here.
There's Mike that I'm talkinginto, there's me, there's Mike,
there's Mike, there's Mike andthere's a Mike right there.
We actually have another Mike,but this other person is want to
be on the mic unused.
This is gonna be fun.
So I have some friends hangingout with me in the studio and
we're just chilling and I'm like, hey, let's record an episode
(01:05):
and see what happens.
So just, we're gonna give alittle background on Mike, other
Mike.
Do you want to be Mike one orMike two?
Probably two, because this isyour show, okay, well, no, you
just told me you might buy itfrom me.
I was joking around saying, hey,what happens to this guy's?
Like a million hits, and thenI'm like then I'll have to bring
(01:26):
you back on, because everybodywants you back on, and then I'm
gonna have to pay you.
And he's like, no, I'll bepaying you.
Two shaped Mike.
Welcome to the Mike and Mikeshow.
Do we get a different intro,different?
Do you want a differentclapping?
I don't know, maybe you canclap it out, get your wife to go
.
Ahhhhh, it's gonna be a greatepisode today, people.
(01:53):
I think this will be betterthan one of the good episodes.
After the last two episodes youguys just listened to about me
talking to a spider in the cabinin the wood, so at least now
I'm talking to somebody instudio, not to myself, so maybe
the audience will like thedifference.
I don't know because you're thethird person I've ever brought
into the studio to talk to.
Does that make you feel special?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Mike that does.
I don't know why I was numberone, but I guess I'm still Mike
number two, so that's right, I'molder.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I know my place, that is right.
And so today we brought Mike inhere and we're just chilling in
the office, hanging out in thestudio and well, we're gonna
give you a little background onMike.
So his name is Mike, he likesto ride a bike.
People hung up at the show, butI turn off the show by now.
(02:45):
They're like no, we're done.
Mike's lost his mind.
He's talking to himself,changed his voice.
No, it really is another personin here, it's not just me,
right?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Right, oh crap, it's just me.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
No, the reason why I wanted to talk with Mike is I
think it'll be fun.
Now.
We always said we should justtalk and have fun with it and
see what happens and hopefullythis becomes a good episode that
you guys like it.
Let us know in the comments,send us an email to
lifechangersmike at gmailcom,and let me know if you like it
or not when I go crazy, but Ishould.
Yeah, I was gonna record anepisode at three in the morning
(03:19):
today, but I was all like hypedup after watching Dr Dota Spenza
.
I was watching one of his livethings on Gaia.
I know you really don't knowwhat I'm talking about a little
bit, unless you do.
I don't know.
You're looking at me like youdon't, but anyways, for my
audience members who knows Italk about Michael's little
spends, michael, wow, dr Joe'sspends.
I don't know what his firstname is.
(03:40):
Might be Michael Dr Joe, dr Joe.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Is that first name, joe?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yes, you're right.
Whatever his first name is,it's only nine o'clock at night
right now, so not that tired,but we did just eat Firehouse
sub and I'm really full now.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You got the large two .
I said you weren't even hungry.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I know I wasn't hungry.
Then we go to the Firehouse subbecause we knew we weren't
going to eat.
We're going to have problems inthe studio, we're going to get
hungry.
There'll be water bottlesflying everywhere and I was like
I'm not that hungry, but I'lljust come with you guys.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I'll be 10 bucks.
I'll get half of it you havelater, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Things gone.
Yeah, yeah, about the wholemeal with a drink.
I think I should walk home,leave my van here.
Oh geez, louise.
But the reason why I broughtMike in here?
Well, because I was going totake advantage of them to write
things for me.
I hate writing out all thislegal paperwork.
(04:42):
My pen mentioned sucks If itever faxes, yeah, if it ever
faxes.
Using these digital faxes, I'mgoing to real fax.
Everybody know what a real faxmachine is.
I miss those.
Those are great.
But anyways, I want to talkabout this special product Mike
is making, because it's amazing.
He shows up with to my housewith a piece of wood and tells
(05:04):
me he's going to play music onit and I thought he's just going
to hit it.
You know, like I don't know, ifyou hear the desk, I hold it.
That sounds stupid.
I thought he's just going tohit it, you know, like a drum
and stuff, but no, he actuallyhas a product that he made and
it's a speaker that looks justlike a piece of wood.
But it's amazing to me how itworks and maybe you'll get more
(05:25):
into the technicality of it.
But it's called, not audio.
You can see him, see him.
You want to see Mike.
You can see his products at notaudio dot com and check it out
and see what's coming up.
They're not for sale yet to thepublic.
We're still the word.
I act like I'm a partner withthem.
We're still in production andtesting phase.
(05:46):
But no, they're still workingon testing on it and stuff like
that.
But it sounds amazing.
It's a long process but likethe hardest part I think for
Mike was you have to researchand find out the right wood, so
make sound.
You can't just use any woodright.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, we went through around 24 different species of
woods, about two dozen of them,and we've also tried other
materials that weren't organic,just to see how it would be with
, like aluminum or glass,different things that you could
turn into a speaker.
And just to add a little note,it is not with a K because we
(06:24):
like puns, because it is wood,so wood was the best sounding
that we had, so it's not audiowith a K there.
We also have the domain namefor not without the K, in case
you get confused, because it isconfusing, but I like it that
way and the link isn't will bein the description.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
It'll be right there.
You can just can click on it.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So, anyways, we tried .
It was actually sort of by luck, as life changers would have
you say.
Maybe Gaia is that, is that howthis works sent me in the right
direction by having me go outto the garage with the right
grab the right to buy for andguy.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Do you know what Gaia is?
Where you continue Gaia is astreaming service.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Okay, that doesn't sound right.
I thought it would be like theMother Earth, gaia, because
that's that's also maybe themythology side of it.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Maybe.
Yes, yes, I'm laughing atpeople that are listening like
yeah, I know exactly what he'stalking about.
Mike, number one, figure outyour stuff.
So yeah, yeah, yeah, go sorry.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Okay.
So anyway, the universe then,yeah, brought it all together
that I go out to the garage andget a random two by four.
I don't know what project I wasgoing to have for it, but I cut
it up into a sound board andadded a voice coil to the
backside of it, and it actuallysounded really good.
(07:46):
So I go out to the garage andlike, well, that was great, let
me do it again.
I'll have a stereo left rightpair.
And it didn't sound very good.
I'm like now, what?
Why?
Why did the first one work in?
The second one doesn't?
So I tried a third one and itsounded like the second one.
So I was like, okay,something's repeatable here, but
not in the way that I want itto be.
(08:07):
So I tried again a bunch ofdifferent species of wood
hardwood, softwoods and foundone that is grown locally here
in Canada and we can source it,and it sounds very good.
Actually, there are three thatsounded very good, but one was
West Coast, one is over here,not a very commercially
(08:29):
available wood, so challengingto find.
But again, the universe put itall in front of me and and so we
have it.
So again trying couple dozendifferent types of wood and
different other materials, putit all together and found that
you can actually even add aposter to the front of it, and
now you can have artwork in yourhouse.
(08:50):
That is a speaker.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
And like that's.
It's amazing to me how like,yeah, it's a piece of wood and,
like you, the latest one you Isaw had like the frame and the
artwork in it is like beautiful,and then it still happens.
One of my customers are likethey call me up to like, hey,
mike, like what's up, like weactually need you to court us on
(09:13):
getting a system, a PA system,in one of our rooms, in our
buildings, in one of thecommunity centers.
So can you find us a quote forthis?
That I'm like, have you metMike, other Mike, mike to like,
yeah, I could work on this.
And then I was thinking aboutMike and then you called me that
yeah, that was yesterday, Ithink a couple days ago, couple
(09:34):
of days ago.
And then you called me and thenI was like, how do you like,
hey, yeah, be awesome if you cancome over, or something like
that.
And you're like, well, I'mactually on my way.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, I asked if you're in the in the office
because I was picking upcontacts, I think as a
obtometous office, I think, andso just down the street here and
so I was like, hey, are youaround?
You're like yeah, and then youcall me and I'm like I'll be
there in like five minutes.
Less than that, like 30 secondsreally.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I ruined the surprise Way to go, mike.
But yeah, and then I was like,hey, you know, I just had a
customer literally just call meand ask me for a PA system.
And it's not because I'm lazyand don't want to do the work,
people, it's because I, you know, not, audio is amazing sounds
like, hey, I know you're not atmanufacturing stage for, but can
(10:22):
this be a project we can workon and send and like we can go
up and install it and all thatwe're talking about?
And he's like yeah, so we'reworking on that and like I'm
hoping this will be like.
You know, the universe is wayof like, hey, how you guys met
was pretty funny.
And now it's for a reason andhere's the purpose, right, I
couldn't figure it out becausewhen I met you, you were
(10:43):
actually working on a differentproject and I was like, oh, that
project sounds cool, it soundsamazing.
Maybe I can pitch it to thehotels and stuff like that,
right.
And I believe it was somethingthat folds laundry like sheets
and stuff Sheet folding.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, sheets and towels, which seems like it's
still a good idea, but it seemslike a bit much for what my wife
and I would be able to doourselves, versus having to hire
too many people, and we aren'treally at the stage for needing
funding or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, and like they're folding I'm going to
make it sound stupid, they'refolding my job the thing that
you like the prototype you wereshowing us I think you were
showing us the videos and allthat it's something that I know
will work because you're helpingthe industry, because people
sit in there folding all day,every day, for like hundreds of
towels, thousands of towels.
You know it gives you carpaltunnel probably, you know, sore
(11:38):
arms or whatever.
So this is actually going tohelp the industry.
And then, but like it justturns out that I guess the
universe is like hey, mike,number two, have you met the
wood here that can make music?
But like when they told usabout it, they just also like
holy smokes, why don't you guyswork on this project?
They got to the point wherethey got the website, they got
(11:59):
the manufacturing figured out,like on their end, where they're
doing it with suppliers andstuff which get in the wood like
sounded like a pain in the assto be on.
And it so happens to be likewhere I go up north a lot
there's a lot of this wood justchilling up there, but it's hard
to get.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah.
So it's actually a little bitfunny as well for finding this
specific wood.
So again, the first two by four.
That was very good sounding.
We tried to recreate it,finding the exact same type of
two by four how it looked.
I brought a small piece of it toHome Depot and was bringing it,
(12:34):
like comparing it to all thedifferent ones there.
And it's hardly used for two byfours, it's mostly just left
there.
No one, no one actuallyharvests it for anything.
So I was like this sucks.
So anyways, I go to one of thetimber yards and say, do you
have this wood?
And they're like, oh yeah, it'sthis one here.
And I'm like, oh great, that'sawesome.
(12:55):
And turns out it wasn't thatwood that they said it was.
So that was unfortunate.
I ended up getting around 600or so board feet in total of
this not correct wood.
And they also said, here, takea buy from us, but take a two by
four of this other one we justcut.
(13:16):
So they actually have the logsand they're sawing them at the
time, so it's dripping wet oflike sap and all that kind of
stuff and I'm like, yeah, I'lltake it, I'll see what happens.
And so, being that it wasentirely green.
It was.
I had to wait about two monthsbefore it would be dry enough
that it wouldn't twist too muchfor my usage of it.
(13:37):
So I ended up trying all theother different types of wood
and was kind of giving up thatfinding the right supplier was
going to be very challenging.
And then all of a sudden I waslike, ok, I'm going to try this
one.
Finally, it's probably dryenough now.
I felt it felt lighter andeverything, and so cut it into a
(13:59):
soundboard and added the voicecoil to it and listening to it
it was like this is different.
This is definitely differentthan the other two that also
sound almost identical to eachother, but this one adds more
bass, which is weird, becausebass is kind of the problem that
we've been dealing with thiswhole time.
(14:20):
And so finding this wood nowthat was sort of by chance that
I went to the right lumber yardor sawmill that had this being
cut at the time, otherwise Iprobably wouldn't have ended up
with it.
It's not super expensive of awood, but it is hard to find,
which is the biggest problemthen.
So it's a lot of the universereally just saying maybe this is
(14:44):
my destiny, if that's what youwould call it.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah, it's funny because I try to tell it, like
explaining to people.
Is it luck?
People will be like, well, hey,mike, one of my two, it's just
luck that all this stuff'shappened.
You know what?
Call it what you want.
Call it luck.
Call it fate.
Call it the hand of God.
Call it Gaia.
Gaiacom is sponsored by thisepisode.
Please give me money, guys.
(15:09):
But yeah, I believe it's higherthan that because, like, just
think about if I did not go tothat.
So it was a business like gettogether, I guess in the
community, probably about what,like 35 minutes away from here.
Yeah, a different city with a goto, and so we're just going
around talking to people and youknow, the small businesses,
(15:30):
people, they all get togetherand you know, talk to each other
and pretty much we're trying tosell each other on each other's
stuff.
You're right, you're like, hey,do you guys need some folding
machines?
And I'm like, hey, do you needsome?
Well, you don't need thisbecause you don't live in the
Arctic.
But I also got fireworks whatfireworks, mike?
Or smoke bombs.
Right, it's just us trying tosell each other.
(15:50):
But like I know it was weirdbecause I think our wives talked
first.
I met you first and we swappedcards and I was like I will go
to my wife and I was like, hey,I was just talking to this guy
named Mike and it's pretty cool,they're machining all that.
I'm like you know, and I own adistribution company, maybe I
can help distribute it.
Like I just want to help people, like I just think my mission
is to help people and I'm likethat'd be awesome.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And she's like I just met a girl who, I think, didn't
have any more business cards atthe time, and so they just
exchange phone numbers rightaway.
So then my wife comes up to meand she's like we have a date
and I'm like what?
Pretty much.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
And my wife was like I think we made a friend.
I'm like oh who are thesepeople?
And then I was like, hey,that's, that's Mike, mike number
two.
So then we're just like hangingout and talking.
I'm like, so we're going to befriends.
Do you guys want to be friendswith me?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, as hard.
As an adult, you kind of haveto just go up to someone and say
, hey, we have a few things incommon.
Do you want to be friends?
Because as a kid you're inthose situations like you're
around the people all the time,but as an adult I don't ever
have to see you again if I don'twant to, and it's easy to just
sort of put the barriers up andjust say I'm not willing to put
myself out there.
(17:02):
But then now you're like maybe,maybe we could be friends.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Right, and that brings us to the bulk of the I
guess the meat on the bone ofthis episode of just stop
limiting yourself.
He liked my intro.
I like I didn't know where thisis going yet, so he really
doesn't know that there's noscript, as most of you got like
we didn't write a script.
I wasn't going to tell him,just like I got an idea.
Mike, trust me, put theheadphones on, let's talk.
(17:32):
But no, it's, we limitourselves way too much.
Like you're saying how like wehave to put ourselves out there.
It's easier to be like, hey, no, I'm just going to stay home
and not go to this event.
Right, it was snowing.
Was it snowing that day?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
No, it might have been freezing rain.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, Like it seemed like it was a crappy day to go
drive you know three to 35minutes somewhere in the country
to this little town, but I knowwe did it.
And then, hey, we were inFrance for a year now.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, it's pretty much our friend.
Diversity now too.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
See, happy friend of Earth, right, like his wife's
laughing.
She doesn't want to make asound because she doesn't
believe me that like I likethese, these microphones are
good, but like we have to likebe close enough that you're
making out with the microphonetoo.
So she probably laughed and youwon't hear nothing.
Which is good for the world ofthe studio is because sometimes
(18:24):
big trucks drive by and then Iwould hear it if I was using an
amazing microphone that's calledRod Road.
Oh, yeah, road.
I remember the joke I made Road.
I'm French, we do everythingwrong for odd no, and it was a
directional mic and it wasreally sounded nice and Mike was
.
Mike too was telling me how itsounds.
Just like you in person.
(18:45):
I'm like I don't know if peoplelike that, but when I tested it
we never use the audio becauseyou can hear trucks driving by.
It's too good of a microphone.
I need a real soundproof studio.
But I digress.
But yeah, we limit ourselvesway too much how we put
ourselves back.
It's up to us to decide ifwe're going to be successful or
not.
We're like Remember when we metwe were talking about the
(19:09):
machine and I was just likeexcited for you and then, I
guess then a couple months later, like we want hung out on a, we
did like what do you call thosethings?
Escape room, escape room.
We almost didn't escape people.
We will still be there today.
But yeah, then we startedhanging out, becoming friends
and then then out of the blue,like you were like hey, here's a
(19:31):
piece of wood, listen to themusic.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, it was it was almost six months later.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Actually it's been six months, oh, just five, four,
having fun.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, it's been over six months now of working on it,
but yeah, I think it wasroughly six months later.
I was like Do you want to, doyou want to listen to this, this
thing that I made?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
and so the question I have for you I don't know if I
asked you in the moment, butwhat made you decide To like?
I know you were mentioning alittle bit how it's kind of like
you know luck or fate or Gaia,I'm bringing you towards this
for the universe guiding you.
So what made you?
What was the aha moment thatmade you decide like you're
going all in on this investment?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
So I guess, to back up to say why we even started, I
say we, my wife and I, I.
So we moved to a new house andwe were trying to remove the
texture ceiling for us when wewere I, I guess, we're ordering
a couch.
So we had lived here for sixmonths or something like that
(20:32):
and finally said let's finallybuy a couch.
We, we can't live like thisanymore.
And we had guests that weregonna be coming to stay with us
in a couple months.
So we had a little bit of time.
So we ordered one on Costco and, sure enough, it arrives very
quickly.
So I was like, okay, I need tosand this ceiling because I
don't want to have this texture.
I don't want to deal with thiswhen we have a couch.
So I'm just Boreding off theentire living room and just
(20:55):
spending around like two weeksjust scraping the this paint off
anyways.
So my wife says so I wasthinking about like the artwork
that you want to have on thewalls, can we Put a speaker
behind art?
And I was like, maybe I'm busyso you could buy some speakers
(21:17):
and some canvases and and seewhat happens.
And so she does, and so shedoes it.
And then she's like oh, can youwire this for me?
So I did and anyways it soundedlike crap.
It just sounded very, verybadly.
And Then she says I found adifferent video that uses a
different technology and wemight be able to use the canvas
(21:40):
to be a speaker.
And I was like, okay, that'scool, I'm busy, go ahead.
So she did, and it soundedpretty bad.
But then we followed differenttutorials on what other people
have used and it worked, butoverall it still didn't sound
(22:01):
very good.
And Then I I took one of thesevoice coils and I attached it to
an acoustic guitar that I had,but I guess just recently taken
back from.
My sister was Holding on to itfor a while, as I was sort of
transient.
So anyways, I had thisavailable and I was like that
sounds really good.
Like that, that sounds likevery good, actually like it
(22:23):
sounds like it's live.
So I was like this is doable,this was made, it could be made
again.
So went out to the garage,grabbed the 2x4 for the earlier
story and then Thought we hadthe, the right material, thought
we had the right wood, got the600 or so board feet of it and
it wasn't, but it was close.
(22:43):
It sounded very good.
It was actually better thanmost commercial speakers that I
was comparing against, not asgood as my 1970s banging Olson
speakers, but it was good, andso I was like, okay, this has
been made, this can be madeagain, I can do this.
And we started to figure outdifferent ways that we could
(23:08):
turn this into a full product,and I Guess it was around a
month after that.
So I guess we had showed you acouple different options.
You said which one sounded thebest and it was.
It was sort of at that pointthat once we felt like we were
comfortable showing anyone else,it was really the sign for
ourselves that it's good enough.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, that's awesome, that like just out of the blue,
right, there's an ass your wifewanted, there's a necessity,
right?
Hey, I want a nice picture.
I don't want a speaker to siton the wall, I want it to look
nice.
And then you guys found allthis technology and now you're
just making it better and makingit your own and you actually go
out and, like you justmentioned earlier, try to all
this different wood.
Yeah, and like that must havebeen a lot of work because like
(23:50):
he's taking two by fours andlike I Don't know, playing them,
sound them down into littlelittle sections and glue in the
mall.
I was a big process.
It seems like his patience,mike.
Number two is good.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
He's a hard worker.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Like and you have a background right like an
engineering or something likethat.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, so I actually have two bachelor's degrees one
in mechanical engineering, onein electrical engineering and a
master's degree in electricalengineering with focus on RF and
radar.
So it's not exactly audio butit's.
So I mean, audio signals arecreated by electrical, so that's
(24:28):
that's sort of the electricalside.
It is a frequency kind of thing, so it's not necessarily like
Several gigahertz frequencies,like radar would be, but it's
not all that different for thefundamentals.
And of course, speakers arevery mechanical by nature.
That they're they're combiningthe electrical signal and
transforming it into aMechanical wave, that's the
(24:52):
pressure wave that you hear.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
He's smart.
Don't worry, it's not like Ican build this.
You need to be smart and belike smart like Mike and his
wife.
It was funny because after meand my wife were like we have
smart friends.
Oh, we're like we got an act,not stupid, I'm gonna act smart.
I'm gonna work glasses that Idon't need to be.
No, but like you have no ideayou have to do, you have on your
(25:23):
website some audio of your.
I guess it doesn't.
It's kind of catch 22?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
right, it's.
It's hard because how do weconvince someone that this
actually sounds good?
We can provide charts, we cangive them graphs of the
frequency response, but unlessyou know what you're looking at,
it doesn't help.
So for us, if if I played you arecording that came from our
speaker, it sounds bad becauseit was recorded twice and it's
(25:50):
fine.
I know it sounds good.
If you hear it in person, itsounds good, but if you listen
to it on your computer or onyour iPhone or headphones or
anything, you're hearing a, aRecording of a recording on a
different device that alreadyChanges the sound for what you
hear.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, that's gonna be hard.
Hmm, I was there any pointwhere you're just like you know
what.
Whatever, I'm not gonna show itfor myself.
I'm done with this.
This is crazy.
Like what?
Am I thinking we're gonna Makea speaker out of wood, all the?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
time.
I Wish I could even count howmany times I'm like I don't know
if we should do this anymore.
Maybe we should just give upbecause it's it's so much easier
just to say no, I can findsomething else.
What is that other thing?
I don't know.
I'll figure it out at somepoint, but this is too hard.
It's.
It's hard to keep going.
It's hard to say, yeah, this,this wood that I thought it was,
(26:44):
actually doesn't sound thatgreat in the end and I've now
spent Hours, I've spent weeks,I've spent months working on
this how many of the lessonsthat I learned from it actually
go to the next thing?
I don't know.
It's, it's kind of independent,like the dimensions that I
learned from this other woodthat I got the 600 board feet of
(27:06):
Is not helpful, because I don'tknow how much of it translates
to this other thing.
Is it a?
Is it a starting point?
I mean kind of, but it depends.
So I Feel like it was probablylike a couple dozen times
probably every type of wood thatI tried.
I had fun, but it's frustratingat the same time.
It's hard to Continue and notjust feel like I don't know if
(27:29):
this is even doable becauseAnother question that sort of my
mom would always say is well,if you have such a good idea,
why hasn't anyone else done it?
You know I mean I get it, but atthe same time you're like, well
, why would someone have donethis?
How could they have found thiswould?
Most of the speakermanufacturers out there aren't
from Canada, so if this wood islocal to Canada, then Well,
(27:50):
maybe.
But also Maybe they did try it,maybe they they did something
and they gave up and I didn't.
So is it perseverance?
Is it just sticking through?
Is it stubbornness?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Maybe, but I mean we have something that sounds good
and and like I'm not even beingbiased, like we're friends to
the point where I'd be like hey,mike, number two, this sucks,
burn it.
But I was just impressed withhow, yeah, you could do that,
like I remember I was evenasking like hey, can you make my
walls turn into music?
But yeah, like jib rock.
If it was not jib rock, if itwas, I mean it actually doesn't
(28:23):
sound too bad, but it'll sounddifferent, I guess.
But no, it's amazing.
You have to check out theirwebsite once again.
It's not audio with a carry,yeah, and you also have it as
not as with redirects.
Yeah, it redirects to them, butit's not audio.
Calm, and the picture you seeat the top with their speaker,
that's within the studio.
My studio is nice.
(28:44):
It's not as good as I want itto be because, well, took a lot
of editing from his wife to makeit look good in here.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
We had to start with a good photo to start with, but
then little magic Photoshop.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, but that was in the studio, so you get a
glimpse of the microphone thanthat picture.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, the one that you make out with.
Yeah, I get really close to it.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
That's why you want looking over to make sure I
don't peek on the Thing of mybarber here.
That goes up and out.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I thought you're just looking at the time to see if
you finally kick me out.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
No, no, we're only a halfway point.
At this point, sorry, people goto us for another 30 minutes
his wife's like, oh crap, ICan't wait to get out of here.
But no, it is easy just to giveup on anything, right?
You watch all these movies andthese TV shows and you're like,
hey, no, these people, you'rewatching people live their dream
, right, and the movies, tvshows.
You get all excited andemotional for them.
(29:34):
And then you get all excitedthat I'm gonna go out and do
something right.
And Then you take one step andyou're like, ah, maybe tomorrow,
right?
So imagine if he said maybetomorrow, made tomorrow, and
maybe this opportunity came toyou by luck or by the universe
or by whatever.
And if you like, man, whateverI'm done, I did my best, it's
too hard to find the wood andall that.
Then somebody else was morepersevering, study came across
(29:56):
it and Then ten years later,like Could have been me right,
like I've been talking aboutrunning, like years ago Probably
about 13 years ago beforepodcast, and all that became
like really cool that we I'veshould done like a podcast and I
had a friend that we're gonnado it with.
Now we're just gonna be likethe pessimist and the ost
optimist.
I was gonna say the awesome.
(30:16):
Now we're just gonna talk aboutlike news and crap, and just
like he's gonna be the pessimist, I was gonna be the optimist
and we're gonna try to findmiddle ground and just make it a
fun Happy-go-lucky podcast.
And imagine, if I did that thenwhere it would be today right,
maybe we, I, would have beenmore successful.
And then this podcast itselfright, like just to start today
where I'm like okay we're gonnado this, mike.
(30:37):
We're gonna do this.
Let's go get dinner.
Right, we'll do it the nexttime, next time, right, there's
always the next time.
There's always a tomorrow,there's always a later.
But we really have to live inthe now and show up for
ourselves and I know in thefirst season I had talked a
little bit about this.
But you really do have to showfor yourself and you control
(30:59):
your own destiny.
You know people are listeninglike oh Mike, you just said the
universe guided all this stuffto happen, so you're not really
in control your destiny.
No, no, the opportunity is calm.
Do you take them, do you notright?
What's that song from Eminem?
It's first one that made himpop away.
Lose yourself, yeah, does it?
Lose yourself when he's like?
You know, one opportunity, onechance blah, blah, blah blah.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I'm not a rapper, so maybe, if I'm big enough, we
could play it on my speaker.
If I had brought it, see, wecould have listened to it in the
studio.
I'd be like that's right now.
You know, a good thing we don'thave cameras in here.
The desk is pretty dirty.
I was like iPad, laptop,paperwork, phones.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
But I digress Anyways .
I think it's very easy to lookat someone else's success and
say, well, that's, that wasobvious.
But in hindsight it was obviousthey still had to do it, they
still had to put the effort inyour like.
Well, of course that was goingto work.
But how do you get to the pointwhen you start something to say
, I know this will be successfulbecause probably won't.
(31:58):
Like, we had a differentproject that we were working on
before.
It didn't work.
Well, what about the one beforethat?
It also didn't work.
What about the one before that?
It also didn't work.
So, not even just the speakers,because that was its own
perseverance, but it was.
You have to know when to foldyour cards to accept a new
opportunity.
But at the same time, now thatwe'll have this speaker and
(32:20):
we're like, oh, this works.
Well, obviously it was going towork and we should have just
started with that.
But part of it was we didn'thave the space before, before we
had moved up here, and wedidn't have the tools because we
didn't have the space.
So we couldn't have made thisso things.
Even if we had this idea, Iprobably would have given up on
the thought even sooner, becauseit wasn't feasible unless I had
(32:44):
the right equipment.
And so if I was in thistownhouse that we were in before
, I had a miter saw in thegarage and a CNC machine in the
basement I think that was prettymuch it for tools and like a
hand jigsaw and stuff like that.
I could not have made this.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Right, and like everything just seems to have
worked out perfectly and, likeyou know, for me, like so here's
this question for you, becauseyou've only known me for a year.
I'm like I was even talking.
So we recently hired a newemployee and I was talking with
him and we're talking.
He's like, yeah, no, this is anamazing brand.
And we were talking a littlebit about life changers and
stuff like that and he was like,oh yeah, you know, that makes
(33:27):
sense, right, like I was talkingabout the law of attraction and
stuff.
But I have friends that I'mclose with that seen me do a lot
of the things he can we talkabout that seem me live and
start changing the way I startedlooking at things.
I stopped being like, you know,oh well, I'll never be
successful, I'll never be richbecause I was always told to be
poor.
Or, you know, I'll never berich because I was never given
(33:48):
that opportunity.
Right, my friends that are richand they have all the success
because their parents hookedthem up and blah, blah, blah.
There's always an excuse not toshow for yourself, but the
people seem to change, and theway.
Even my friend that was with mewhen I was taught, teaching him
about.
When I did the experiment and Iknow I talked to you about it a
little bit when I did thecasino thing and I was like I'm
not here to gamble.
You know, just about to frame amind and all that you must have
(34:10):
been like this guy's crazyHoney, let's go.
We don't want to be friendswith crazy, but like it's
amazing to me how people see medo what I do and some of you
make a, you know, a profit.
You're doing my experiment andstuff like that and seen how
things changed, just by the wayI thought and changed by using
(34:31):
that book from Dr Joe to spend.
I called breaking the habit ofbeing yourself.
It's a good book, check it out.
On audible and audible.
You sponsored me.
Amen, I want to monetize, butI'm how, just like you got to
take control for yourself andshow for yourself and decide
that like, yes, I'm going totake responsibility for my
failures and my success andthat's really all we have to do.
(34:55):
And so I mean you didn't reallyI guess you know me for a year
you didn't really see metransform into this.
But when I talked to you about,like law of attraction, the
universe is providing for me, orwhen I'm like hey, this is how
I see the world and how Iunderstand it and it works for
me.
And you know, when we talkabout it, because we're friends,
I don't expect you to be likeyeah, mike, you're good.
(35:16):
Yeah, I agree with you, right.
And like you know, you tell mehow it is and you tell me if I'm
being crazy or not Usually onlyif you ask.
But here's the question andthis, like law of attraction and
like the way of thinking, likeI know, as we hang out more and
more, you'll see more and moreof things I'm going to do and
things I'm changing and how I'mgoing to create my own reality.
(35:37):
And what do you think aboutthat?
Like, have you heard stuff likethis before?
Like, when I heard about itwhen I was younger like at 18,
19, I thought people are nuts.
I was like so you're telling meI'm just going to make a vision
board, I'm not going to put on amillion dollar house.
Well, a million dollar houseright now in Ontario is a shed.
So let's go to Toronto andGoogle, you pick up my garage so
like a little shed there for1.5 million, but anyways, but
(36:01):
yeah, you have your dream home.
You have your dream.
This and like that movie calledthe secret of the book, called
the secret.
That came out back when I wasyounger, long time ago, because
it was like 22 years ago when Ifirst heard about this.
But I was like these people arestupid, they're nuts for
believing this, but like they'renot showing you the full thing
in those videos.
(36:21):
I think is because yeah if youcreate your own reality, like I
always say, like I got to createmy success and I show up for
myself and that works for mebecause, well, I believe it to
work for me right.
And and there's something to it, because when I did my test and
I did change the way I thoughtof you know, instead of me
(36:44):
chasing money and chasing thisand chasing success, no, I am
successful, right, I'm going toyou know, as they say, right, as
law of attraction, you act likeyou already have what you want
and then you live it and thenyou create that energy, that
universal energy that goes outin the world, and then, when
those opportunities come, you'lljust take them and do them.
But it's still up to you if youwant to be successful or not.
(37:05):
And I'm like, but I don't know,it's, it's not, I don't know,
I'm just rambling here but itmight sound crazy to some people
, so I bring it to you likenumber two.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
So I guess, if you look at it from a sort of
scientific perspective, like ifyou're looking at like the, the,
like the statistics, I guessbehind it and stuff, um, there's
Tar's target fixation.
Man, this is tough for me tosay.
I wasn't planning this.
It's a lot of big words that ifyou are approaching an accident
with a deer in the road orsomething like that, um, you're
(37:42):
trying to avoid the deer bystaring at it.
You're actually aiming towardit, you're.
So it has good and bad.
That if you're saying I'm goingto hit this deer, I'm going to
hit this deer, I'm going to hitthis deer, how do I avoid this?
You're not focused on the howdo I avoid this?
You're saying I'm going to hitthis deer, so you do, and your
aim straight at it.
You did nothing to avoid it,and so that's sort of a law of
(38:03):
attraction kind of thing that ifyou said this is my destiny,
this is my goal, I'm going tohit this, I'm going to hit it,
and so part of it's a mentality,part of it is scientifically
legit, I guess.
But it's also the same sort ofthing of if you um, I guess to
bring up the point that you hadsaid before, you're presented an
opportunity, you have to knowto take it.
(38:25):
If you aren't fixated on theidea of taking that opportunity,
how will you take it?
Cause you didn't even see it asan opportunity unless you were
already planning for that, thatfuture of yourself.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, and it's like um, I don't know if I ever
mentioned this joke before inone of my other podcasts, but
it's like the joke or the storyof the guy who's like just lost
his job and he's like you know,you know, please, universe, or
he's praying, please, god, youknow, give me a million dollars.
Or please, universe, give me amillion dollars or let me win
the lottery.
I need to make money because Ijust lost my job.
(38:57):
And the lottery comes and go.
He doesn't win.
Then he's like well, he's losthis house, he's losing his car.
No, I was like please, you know, please, hook me up with this
lottery and his praying andpraying for this lottery, right,
and then comes and goes.
He doesn't win, his familyleaves them.
Come on, my family left me, Ilost my house on my job.
And he's freaking out.
Why have you fork sakin me?
You know why?
What's going on?
(39:17):
And then you know it's like youknow God comes down and is like
hey man, how's it going?
You know, I'm just like oh, whyare you not forsaking me what's
going on?
Well, hey, at least buy alottery ticket if you want to
win bud.
And it's true, if you just sitthere and same with the law of
attraction and I mentioned thisbefore to over and over and over
(39:38):
if you're going to sit thereand saying I'm a millionaire,
I'm successful, and you just sitin your room, do nothing, or
I'm just going to sit here andI'm the millionaire, I'm the
most successful podcaster in theworld, but I don't have a
podcast name, I don't even havepodcast equipment.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
I.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Don't believe my house right.
It's not gonna happen if youdon't take the opportunity to
meet halfway.
So you know, I know I like youmentioned it and I've mentioned
another episodes of my thingit's not like success Just like.
Here you go, you gotta learn alot of stuff along the way.
I've learned and worked anddone all these crazy and fun
ideas that were like obviouslysupposed to be successful but
(40:19):
that weren't.
But I learned a lot from it andwhen you're learning as you're
going through, then you finallyget that Right for you.
I predict here's my predictionyou heard it here from Mike
number one.
Mike from life changers.
Is that like when he won a,mike number two presented me
like number one?
Okay, when you show me thatthing and I just like whoa, this
(40:45):
is like Finally like your, andas your, your product is, it's
gonna be you.
This is gonna be maybe not yourlegacy, but this is gonna be
your one like oh, and thenyou're gonna re, rinse and
repeat and you're gonna makemore and more and you're just
gonna keep on growing, kind oflike.
I've been running my owncompany since I was like 18, 19
(41:07):
years old and only sit in 2019.
What?
Four years ago, I finally gotthe when I don't have to push
and live, contract to contractand try to put, and then all
these ideas just floated andlike I'm just like, oh and it's
all, because I finally decidedto show up for myself, changed
the way I think of well, nothinggood is gonna happen to me,
(41:30):
because only good things happento people that are already
successful and blah, blah, blah,blah.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Or lucky or whatever Right, also easy to say in
hindsight.
That was a good idea.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Yes, you know, many times I've said Like I thought
of that before became a thing,but now it's a thing, so it's
not, you sat and did nothing.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Of course it didn't work out for you.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
How come I'm not rich , then, mike?
But no, like you mentionedright, when you're focused on
don't do this, I don't hit thedeer, or don't be like, don't,
don't be lazy, or you know, ohum, I Can't be successful
because you know this is gonnahappen, this is gonna happen, or
I don't have the money, I don'thave this, I don't have that.
Well, all that is creating whenyou say I don't have, I don't
(42:09):
have, I don't have, is more lackof their off, so you're not
gonna get it.
Yeah and See, mike might notmake number two, might not agree
with you, know the how Ipresent with a lot of attraction
to that, but he did use scienceand my benefit, so thank you
very much.
So for all you science peoplethat have been down to me you
heard it here first about mynumber two.
But no, and I say this over andover, don't take what I say and
(42:33):
like, take it as like you know,law or whatever.
These are my stories, my upthings that work for me and I
encourage people to find whatworks for them and I encourage
people to live like happy golucky, like my motto, right?
Akuna Montana is such awonderful phrase means no
(42:55):
worries, right?
And that's how I live.
I don't really Care about things.
Why get stressed for thingsthat you can't control?
Like sometimes I joke aroundlike my wife's all stressed out
tonight.
That's why we're in the studio,hide everybody.
You think he's joking, but like, and I'm just like you know
(43:15):
it's hard for me because likeit's when you get stressed, it's
it's honestly.
Yeah, there's a lot of outsidefactors that can stress you, but
in the bottom line it becomesto you to be like, are you gonna
be stressed and frustratedtoday?
Or are you gonna just come toMontana right Like, are you
gonna Let this opportunity gobecause of whatever, all this or
(43:36):
that, or?
Well, poor me.
Sorry, mike you know, all thewould you want to use doesn't
exist anymore.
Right, there was a lot thisyear, but you didn't let that
stop you.
And it's so easy to be aquitter.
But what's crazy and what I'mlearning is it's easier to show
(43:59):
up for yourself, not give a shitabout anything else in the
world, but except your realityand what makes you happy, and
Just live your moment andunderstand that you are in full
control of your moment andyou're in full control Of what
is happening in your world.
You can choose to be successful.
(44:19):
And people are like, oh no, no,it's so stupid.
I used to think the same thing,but do it.
I Could sit here complain to myfriend, mike number two, about
how, like, oh, I don'tunderstand.
You know, I've been trying allthese diets and trying to get
skinny, and willing onmeditating to get skinny, and
(44:40):
then he's like well, how manytimes have you got up and walk
to work?
Well, one, because I had to,just once that I drive the five
minutes right now.
What I mean.
So it's not anybody's faultthat I'm not happy with you know
, my body size or whatever, butit's me, it's my fault.
I have nobody to blame.
And it's funny because, likeyou know, everybody blames
(45:02):
everybody else for theirsituation.
It's easier.
It is easier I could blame, youknow I'm.
I could blame I don't knowfireworks, because when I light
fireworks off, when I was youngand dumb I didn't wear your
protection, and now I'm like hey, can you hear me, mike?
Speaker 2 (45:19):
And he's like my headphones too loud.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
So I have a tune.
I think it's low Right.
I could blame, blame, blame,but in the end, take
responsibility for you and youractions, and there's nothing
else that could change that.
And people would be like all thetime well, somebody could
change, you know, changesomething about me, or you know
well you know, mike, number twohere could be like well, you
(45:43):
know I wanted to do all thisstuff and be successful about.
My wife told me to stay hometoday.
You know I can't go to see youat the studio, mike, because I'm
not gonna come home with food.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
She, she said it before You've already.
You already saw Mike number onetoday or like this week, so no,
times no, you don't need to seehim.
This I'm a pretty easy.
He's only like two minutes away.
I Can hear him cry.
I can see if he's free.
And then sometimes they're like, okay, let's go get groceries
or something, because we need tofeed the cat you whatever.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
But there's, you know , we could easily blame right,
and I used to do that.
I used to do the blame game andblame this, blame that, and oh,
I'm not rich because of this,or I got and it was funny, mike
number two here.
I was talking to him and hegoes have you ever thought of it
about it this way?
I remember how I was talking toyou about how I felt I got
screwed over right Because Icreated my original company way
(46:38):
back when.
Then I brought in somebody whowas a lot older than me.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Oh yeah, I was listening to your podcast.
I'm pretty far behind on them.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Oh, you're listening to that podcast yeah, so he's
listening to that podcast wastalking about how I started the
company and I was like, hey, yougot 50% of the profits this
year and then we'll negotiatelater.
And then when the contract cameabout, it was like 50%
Shareholder and I didn't knowwhat that means and I just
signed whatever.
But then, you know, mike waslike you know, you blame him,
(47:04):
you're putting it all on, he'sthe bad guy, but yet maybe he
mishurt you and he did it right,right, I think that's pretty
much along the line.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Also, like legally, he was just defining that he
would get that, like you said,verbally or even in a written
agreement, but it's no more wellwritten than in a shareholder
agreement that he has 50% of theshares, like if you say, this
is half of his profit, even ifit's only for the first year,
make a new company, startsomething new kind of thing, but
(47:34):
it's guaranteed to be half.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Yeah, no, and I, when he said that to me, I was just
like, huh, I Guess I shouldpractice what I preach.
I got nobody to blame aboutmyself For not be more clear and
sign of the day, but it's true,I look at all the situations
that might have stopped me fromdoing things or whatever, or
that you know prevented me fromdoing what I know I need to do,
like, for I'm sure, even thoughyou don't I don't know if you
(48:01):
don't care about the law ofattraction and I don't want to
put words in your mouth, butmaybe you think I'm a little
loopy, your science man, I likescience too, but anyways.
But I always felt like a little, still small voice or that
little feeling in your gut like,hey, do this, do that right.
And every time I listen to that, something good happens.
(48:22):
Oh Right, like.
And I've experienced thingswhere, you know, when it came to
that situation With thatindividual, when I had to, was
talking to him, had a littlething in my gut saying, no,
don't sign it, don't do this.
You know, trust me, trust meright.
And then I'm like.
I know what I'm doing, right, Idon't need you a universe, or I
don't need you, god.
I'm like I know what I'm doing,I'm better than you, right, and
(48:44):
then I just, you know, screwmyself over and All it is is
100%.
I don't know if you agree ornot, but it's self-sabotaging,
it's just.
I Believe I need to be poor.
I believed I needed to havereasons and excuses in my life,
so, love attraction I createdthem.
I didn't want to hit that moose, but I'm staring at the moose
and I'm Concentrated on themoose, so, of course, you're
(49:07):
gonna hit the moose.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Yeah, hard to say.
I think I was gonna say I thinkit.
It could be that you were Youngand naive and it was just a
learning opportunity, andhopefully not too expensive of
one.
But you learned from that howto how to structure a business
in the future, that you wouldn'thave to Share it with someone
else, that you weren't planningto, and that anything would just
(49:31):
be a contract from that pointor something.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
But yeah, I learned a lot of amazing things and see
it makes me feel good with allmy mistakes I made.
When you come up to me and askme a question about business,
I'm like I could tell you astory how I screwed that up.
So don't do this.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
You're like Season one, episode eight.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Pretty much right, but no.
So you know, once again, justlike Remember, even you, mike
number two, you are in controlof anything that you want to
happen in this world.
I know it sounds nuts.
I know people are like, okay,mike's been Smoking some weed up
there in Canada because it'severywhere getting into the
mushrooms but, no like the shitworks, man, and I'm not on your
(50:16):
action, I don't do that shit.
Oh, maybe my grossing, butanyways, I digress.
But no like for real.
This works for me 1,000%.
But it might not work for youbecause you have to find your
way, your module.
You have to reprogram yourselfand your way of thinking because
growing up my life, I wasalways taught how doesn't matter
(50:39):
how hard I work, how successfulI want to be, you'll never
happen.
And if I truly believe that,well, I limit myself and how.
Life's going to be a strugglebecause that's the way it's
supposed to be and it's supposedto be hard to make money, poor
me.
Right, mike, it's gonna be hardfor you to make your speaker
and be successful.
Mikey, it's gonna be reallyhard, right, and all this crap's
(50:59):
gonna happen to you, but itwon't happen to if you don't
want it to.
Because it's funny.
I look back at my life and I'mlike I actually got it pretty
good.
I'm not a negative person.
We know sometimes my ego goesnuts, as you heard in the last
two episodes, I'm alone in thewoods talking to spider, talking
to the spider and and stufflike that.
(51:20):
But In the end, when you justtrust yourself.
Trust, just trust.
Go with the flow.
Don't stress, don't worry, andlike for you.
You don't let all those Bumpsin the road of like, hey, they
told me the wrong.
Damn, I need this kind of wood.
That's not this kind of whatthese guys don't want.
You could have just given up,but mark my word not audio calm,
(51:44):
it's gonna be a product of thefuture.
Like I'm so excited.
Like I'm gonna get some for thestudio, I'm gonna get some for
my house and we're gonna work onthis contract to get some up
there and hopefully just blow itup and have this stuff taken
everywhere, because it's reallyamazing technology to me.
Like we're in 2023, people, andwe still have like speakers
(52:06):
made the same way Since the 70s,60s or whatever, right, and
we're in 2023.
Where's my flying cars?
Damn it.
So about time.
We got some amazing speakersthat are like artwork on the
wall and you could get printedany kind of thing on the canvas
and put it on there and make itlook beautiful.
Right, you could probably putmy family portrait on it, right,
probably?
Speaker 2 (52:27):
yeah, I mean anything , you can get printed it.
You know, vista printer staplesif they'll sponsor you to
whoever.
Whoever, please pay thispodcast.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
No, no, no, just buy it on, not audio.
Calm, you'll get it from vistaprint.
That makes the money.
But, yeah, like it's, it's, Idon't know it.
To me it's like, and like yousaid, right, like you could have
just been like this alreadybeen done or thought of blah,
blah, blah, right, but it's agood thing.
Even my podcast there'smillions of podcasts out there.
(52:56):
There's millions of good pot.
There's people like youlistening to it right now.
Exactly, you guys are amazing,like for listening.
But like, ah, just life isawesome, right, mike, yeah, yeah
, you weren't convincing one,one day at a time.
It does take one day at a time.
It is raining out there rightnow, but it could be snowing
(53:18):
what?
Speaker 2 (53:18):
do you prefer?
I like snow.
That's why I live in Canada.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
That is true.
Want to come with me to theArctic.
You won't like snow Afterdriving through some blizzards
up there and you can't seenothing.
It's fine.
That's why I look forward togoing Florida.
I'll do another podcast in thecloset when I'm in Florida.
People, I don't know if youlisten to that episode when I
was in the closet.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
Yeah, did you?
Yeah, it was one of the earlyones I heard of it.
Yeah cuz I said it soundeddifferent.
You're like, oh yeah, I was inthe closet and I was like, did
you tell your wife?
Speaker 1 (53:55):
Stop it.
But did you listen to the end?
I don't know if I put it justbefore the music kicks in, or
after the music You're allsweaty.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yeah, I'm like oh, this is so I'm disgusting.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
I love that part in because it was funny.
But what would you like toclose with Mikey?
What would you like to say tothe world?
What good thing would you wantto say to the universe that can
help people?
Speaker 2 (54:16):
Um, good enough.
If you feel like something's arisk worth taking, just take it.
Just try, because if you don'ttry something then you won't
have a chance.
And so if that's, if that's thelaw of attraction in your eyes,
or something like, if you, ifyou want something, try for it,
and if it doesn't work out, thendon't necessarily give up
entirely, but Don't don't writeit off.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
It's a learning experience for the next project,
cuz all of my failures to thisdate is what brought me to where
I'm at today, and I know you'veprobably testified.
Testify, mikey, the same thing,right.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
I mean.
Everything where you are inlife right now is a product of
your history.
Everything that led in yourpast is to where you are today,
and All you can control is yourtrajectory.
So it's where you're aimingyourself for the future.
Whether you like, you can't goto the future, but you can aim
yourself in the right way.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
I just saw something pop up said writing error.
Hopefully it doesn't script thepodcast.
That'd be unfortunate.
It disappeared now.
Oh Well, hopefully it soundsgood, cuz I'm not gonna check
the audio.
But Thank you very much, mike,for coming.
Mike, number two, it's fun tosay that.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
Thanks for inviting me, even though I didn't know I
was gonna sign up for this whenI showed up for dinner today.
Oh crime, your friend.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
So anybody who's listening, who please check out
the website at not audio comm,it's spelled with a K or the
other way to get Redirected andsend him a message saying, hey,
you sounded great on the podcast.
Then he knows like hey maybethis podcast is something I
should go on again.
I Need more guests.
Okay, I'm sitting here alone inhere and I'm just getting bored
(55:56):
, but I just want to leave youwith this message to all my
listeners out there all two ofyou Is you know what you are
awesome, you're amazing, anddon't give up like life is as
beautiful as you want to make it.
So if you feel like you're in arut, if you feel like you've
been kicked and kicked down orpushed down or just not doing
(56:18):
too Well, just remember thatyou're awesome, you're amazing
and that you could change.
Just by the way you think it'slike the placebo effect of how
you.
Science is the placebo effect.
Right, just be happy.
Be know that there's a brighterside.
Know that you control how youfeel and choose and I know it
sounds crazy, but just trust me,just be like you know what.
(56:39):
I'm gonna be happy today.
I'm gonna choose to be happyand find happiness and find good
people, and stop finding thosepeople that put me down and On
and on and on right, and justuse this motto I'll allow you to
use.
I'm gonna leave you with alittle song.
We're all gonna have fun instudio after I turn this off,
but just honestly, happy, golucky puppies and rainbows.
For you know, just picture meprancing around puppies and
(56:59):
rainbows.
Life's amazing, right, but itreally is if you choose for it
to be, if that's the reality youwant to attract and the version
that you want to see, and Justyeah, the amazing motto for me
that got me through life andstill get me through life,
because I'm not that old Dorm,no.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
I'm done now, guys.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
But just a Kuna Matata, right, a Kuna Matata
motherfucker, but no, a KunaMatata.
It really means there's noworries, just live happy and
enjoy life and the.
Once again, thank you very muchfor listening to the podcast.
I thank you, mike, for comingagain, and please click the link
in the description for notaudio.
Calm and you guys are amazing.
(57:37):
Keep up the good work and getready for the next episode.
It's only gonna get better fromhere.
See, if this episode was crapto you, just know listen to the
next one and the one after that,cuz it'll only get better, it
can't get worse.
Thank you very much and I loveeverybody.
Take it easy.
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