LLP #112: Jiu-Jitsu, Politics, and Underwear: The Unexpected Comeback Episode

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After a long-awaited return, Eric and Matt are back behind the mics for an honest, unfiltered conversation about life's challenges and triumphs. This reunion episode dives deep into Matt's journey through a catastrophic leg injury that derailed his competitive jiu-jitsu career, sharing the raw reality of recovery and his determination to return to the mat.

The heart of this episode explores a topic many men face but few discuss openly – testosterone levels and their profound impact on energy, mood, and quality of life. Both hosts candidly share their experiences with TRT (testosterone replacement therapy), breaking down misconceptions and addressing how hormone optimization has changed their approach to fitness and daily living. They provide valuable insights for listeners navigating similar health decisions, particularly highlighting how trauma and military service can impact hormone production even in younger men.

Between personal updates on Eric's powerlifting journey and Matt's jiu-jitsu academy, the conversation naturally flows into observations about recent political developments, media manipulation, and the search for truth in an increasingly complex information landscape. Their discussion exemplifies the show's commitment to authentic dialogue about the pillars of a meaningful life – physical capability, mental clarity, and personal freedom.

This episode marks more than just a comeback – it's the beginning of a weekly schedule with exciting new features including listener Q&A segments and potential guest appearances. Whether you're interested in male health optimization, physical training after 40, or thoughtful perspectives on current events, this episode delivers substantive conversation with the characteristic humor and honesty that defined the show's earlier run.

Subscribe now and join us every Monday as we continue exploring life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in these challenging times. Have questions or topic suggestions? Click the link in the description to submit them for our next episode.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back everybody.
This is Eric and Matt and thisis Life, liberty and the Pursuit
, your beacon of freedom and theAmerican way of life.
Tune in every Monday for a newepisode as we dive into the
world of liberty and what makesour country great.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome back everybody.
This is Eric and Matt here withLife, liberty and the Pursuit.
You're home for all things.
Freedom in a world of craziness.
And we are finally bringingback the LLP podcast.
Boys and girls.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Oh yes, very excited, very excited, man.
It's been way too long, dudelife has been really crazy.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
We've had a lot going on and I know whenever we do
our podcast, we're always, youknow, kind of like joking around
a little bit beforehand andkind of talking about things.
And I don't like to do that toomuch because I like things to
be organic when we're doing theshow, but at the same time I
always like to catch up with youa bit and it's just such a
great thing.
And I know life has been crazyfor both of us and we can talk a

(00:53):
little bit about that as we go,of course.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
But you had an injury .
Yeah, man, I mean I know wedon't talk about it too much,
we're trying to save it for thepodcast, so it works out.
Yeah, the last two years havebeen very crazy, a lot of life
changes.
I suffered a prettycatastrophic injury on my leg.
Recovering from that and thatwas just.

(01:18):
You know we've been trainingjiu-jitsu a lot.
For those that don't know, Iopened a jiu-jitsu academy in
Roswell, georgia Alliance,roswell and you know been
training, hard training.
You know, two times a day,every day.
We were getting ready tocompete at Worlds and the Pan
American Games and you know Iwas competing at, you know, all
the local IBJJF Opens.

(01:38):
You know, here in Atlanta,charlotte, new Orleans, to
really get practice to go intothese world-level events.
And you know I was doing sogood.
I was winning all thetournaments, double-golding my
division and open division.
And one week before PANS Isuffered a catastrophic injury

(02:01):
on my leg, just a trimallularfracture broke tibia fibula
ankle.
It was brutal man, so now I gotsome screws holding everything
together.
But I'm back training now.
So it's been about four or fivemonths going on, five months
now.
So, getting back to training,I'm able to train on a regular

(02:23):
basis now kind of easing into itand hopefully we'll make on a
regular basis now easing into it, hopefully we'll make worlds
and pans next year.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
man, it's been a crazy couple of years for me too
on that front.
I know you and I have alwaysbeen pretty active.
I've been doing the powerlifting and stuff.
You know that I recently got onTRT.
I know I've made some episodesabout this, y'all talking a
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Speaker 2 (05:04):
You know there seems to be a divided consensus on how
people feel about TRT, whetheror not someone should undergo,
you know, trt or any type ofhormonal therapies and things
like that, and I get it.
There are many people thatprefer more of a holistic
approach where, okay, you'regoing to get your diet and
exercise together.
You're going to eat foods thatyou know don't inhibit

(05:27):
production of testosterone butactually increase the production
of testosterone.
Heavy compound lifting in thegym is going to bring your
testosterone levels up.
You're going to produce moretestosterone with heavy compound
lifts.
I know some people bash powerlifters.
They say, well, can you run sixminute mile?
Well, may not be able to run asix minute mile, but I can, you

(05:51):
know, do a 600 pounds squat.
So those heavy compound lifts,they really do cause the testes
to really get into the mode ofproducing natural testosterone.
The issue is, when you undergoTRT, your body begins to
metabolically sort of shut downthe production and your nuts go
into atrophy, which is not aproblem.
It may be a problem if you wantto have children or start a
family, but I mean if you're inyour 40s, chances are you've

(06:12):
probably already done that andagain, I know I've mentioned
this in other videos, but Iwanted to mention in today's
podcast, not only for all of ouremboldened listeners and those
of you watching on YouTube, bythe way.
We are on all the differentpodcast forums all over the
place.
Make sure you're following useverywhere Stitcher, spotify,
apple Podcasts.

(06:32):
Obviously, we post over on IRACVeteran 8888 on the YouTube
channel so you can see thispodcast in video form as well.
If you want to see our uglymugs, you can do that as well,
so make sure you check that out.
But we post these everywhere.
But the discussion about TRT ittends to divide a lot of people

(06:52):
and some people, you know,prefer the more holistic
approach.
But once you do start it, youkind of have to continue doing
it.
There seems to be a bigdisconnect about the age that
people should be at when theystart these regimens.
You know some people say 40 istoo young, or some people say
you shouldn't even get checkeduntil you're in your 50s or your
60s or something like that.

(07:14):
But the truth is and I knowI've discussed this in a few of
the videos, matt is that when,especially if you're in the, you
know public service if you're,you know a veteran, if you're
law enforcement, if, if you're aveteran, if you're law
enforcement, even if you're aparamedic or even a doctor or
someone who's seen a lot oftraumatic events it could be
violence you've been exposed to.

(07:34):
It could be death that you'vebeen exposed to.
It could be a number of things.
Maybe you just witnessed sometraumatic events, those things
you know.
When you develop, thesetriggers the post-traumatic
stress syndrome and things likethat it will cause your body to
produce less testosterone.
So an otherwise healthy youngmale 20 years old, 22 years old

(07:56):
you would think would bebrimming with testosterone may
actually have low T even intheir 20s.
If you saw some real traumaticthings or dealt with some really
heavy stuff at a young age,maybe you saw your mother get
abused by your father, or maybeyou saw a family member hurt or
a bad car wreck.
It could be any number ofthings that would cause a person

(08:17):
to to get into that mode of ofsort of a self-destruction, know
, and it can cause a man to shutdown.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Well, yeah, I think that that is the biggest point
of contention amongst a lot ofpeople.
Is that the age factor.
So what?
When is it too young?
Because, like you said, youknow, jumping on any type of you
know hormone replacement at ayounger age does cause some
adverse side effects.
You know.
There's no, no way around it.
You're replacing a naturallyproducing hormone with a
synthetic for all intents andpurposes, a synthetic hormone.

(08:56):
When you mention younger, likeage 20, 21, 22, it's not
uncommon for service members toexperience low testosterone
because of that, because of thethings that they experienced,
like overseas you are taking akid that went overseas and their
adrenaline was spiked for anentire year.

(09:17):
You're basically over there fora whole year, at least in the
army.
I know Marines did like sixmonth tours, but in the army
we're doing 12 month tours orlonger.
You're getting spiked withadrenaline every day boom, boom,
boom, boom.
And then you get home and it'snothing and your body's like,
hey, where's this?
Where's this dopamine hit,where's this?
You know, where's this highenergy, high tempo, uh,

(09:38):
environment, and you're not.
It's not there.
So now your testosterone islower and that's the most common
case you see is you see youngerguys that have, you know, 300,
400 like test levels and they're22 years old.
Those are test levels for likea 50 year old guy.
And then they're they have thememory issues, the cognitive
issues, energy, so bad mood, badmood.

(10:01):
You really have to go and getthat checked and I know that.
You know we were talking aboutour sponsor, chalk TRT.
The actual supplementation ofhormones is only one aspect of
it.
There's plenty of other ways totry to boost that naturally
without going like, directlyinto TRT.
There's a lot of naturalsupplements, a lot of other
stuff you can do that'll helpwith that.

(10:23):
And then that kind of laststage is where we're at as a as
an older guy, like, hey, we'regoing to have to supplement,
we're going to have to have toput something back into it.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
I think you hit the nail on the head, dude Cause you
know, I think if you cancorrect your testosterone levels
without the need to get on TRT,that's probably the best thing
to do.
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I'm going to try it out myselfand see how I like it.
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(10:53):
being the first sponsor here onour podcast coming back,
Absolutely.
As you know, guys, we'veproduced many LLP episodes well
over 100 episodes and thepodcast has done really well.
And over 100 episodes and thepodcast has done really well.
And Matt and I sort of took abreak and many of you know that,
obviously, and many people havebeen asking me to make more LLP
episodes.
So I'm really excited to getback in the saddle with this,

(11:13):
and Matt and I go way back.
You know he and I are battlebrothers, so we've got a long
history and it's always fun totalk about a myriad of different
things.
So I'll recap a couple of things.
We'll go back and look at a fewthings that we've done before.
You guys might remember some ofthe flights that we've done,
the fight or flight series.
The flight or fight series wewould basically just do a flight

(11:38):
of like different whiskeys,sometimes different peppers,
different foods and things likethat.
So we'd like to kind of mixthings up a little bit.
You never know if you're goingto see a special guest here.
We will eventually startintegrating some guests into the
show.
We'll have to see who cantravel and get down, and I've
actually been in the process ofredoing the studio here and
changing things around so youmight see some different sets

(12:02):
and everything that we're goingto be building.
And I want to do like a reallybougie guest area where we have
like a nice comfy couch and, youknow, snacks and you know, just
have like a really greatenvironment for a guest to come
hang out and then we can, youknow, film together.
So that's something that I hopewe can all look forward to and
I really appreciate you guys whohave supported LLP for all this

(12:23):
time and have constantly calledfor us to bring back more
episodes of LLP.
I really do enjoy the long formpodcast because we can just let
loose and just talk about lifeand it doesn't always have to be
political, it doesn't alwayshave to necessarily be gun
related and things like that.
So this is just a great way tobe personal and talk about
things.

(12:44):
So Jiu Jitsu Academy is doingwell.
You got an injury, you hurtyour foot, you've got screws in
your foot.
Now are you ever going to beable to compete again?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yeah, man, I'm S.
I mean I have plans to competeuh later in may.
Um, hopefully, if I can getback into uh where I feel
comfortable, competing at a highlevel I plan on doing.
There's an internationaltournament out in Long Beach at
the end of May.
So if I feel comfortable, if Ido well here at the Atlanta Open

(13:14):
, I'm going to probably go outto Long Beach and try my luck in
the international tournament asit goes farther into the year.
Um, the way jujitsu works isyou kind of have like two
seasons you have Gi season,which is the first six months of
the year, and then you have noGi season uh, which is the last
six months.
So, uh, they just did uh thePan American games, um, I think

(13:39):
maybe a week ago or two weeksago down in Florida.
And then you have Worlds that'scoming up in August and then
now after Worlds it switches tono gi and then hopefully we can.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Now what's the difference of gi and no gi?
I'm uninitiated here.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Just explain, You're wearing your traditional kimono.
It looks very similar to a judouniform.
It's like you got the longlittle ninja pajamas on, okay,
yeah, yeah, the ninja pajamas Igot you, okay.
And for Nogi, it's very similarto like wrestling, so you're
wearing like rash guard shorts.
You're not-.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Like a singlet or something.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Not.
Well, not a single Singles forwrestling.
This is just like it looks likea rash guard you'd wear at the
beach, basically like surfingtype deal, um, and it's very
similar to wrestling.
You're not able to use anygrips on the clothing, so
everything is collar ties, wristcontrol.
Um, I prefer nogi.
I compete both gi and nogi, butI I prefer nogi personally, and

(14:36):
that seems to be a little bitmore popular here in the us, um,
but everywhere else gi is isprobably more popular.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Oh, I didn't know that you know I've been've been
doing the power lifting stuff soI know a lot of folks follow me
, especially on Instagram andTwitter.
You can follow me on TwitterIRACVeteran8888, directly if you
want.
Also, we do have an LLP Twitterhandle if you want to check it
out.
For Life, liberty and thePursuit we don't post a lot over
there.
Mainly if you want to get someof my musings, just pop on over

(15:04):
on I Write Veteran, but I dopost a lot about the power
lifting which I've really beenenjoying that a lot.
I'm not going to spend a lot oftime talking about it because
I've done a little bit ofdiscussion in a few previous
videos about it.
So I won't spend a lot of timehere.
But it has been fun and I dohave SPF Worlds coming up in
November.
So we've kind of gone back downon the training regimen to back

(15:27):
it back down and do support workand try to get my shoulder
better, because I did have alittle bit of a shoulder injury
and everything like that.
So I'm kind of working througha little bit of shoulder pain in
my right shoulder, which Idon't know is from nerves or if
it's muscle fatigue, but mybench is not as good as it
should be.
Before I experienced thisinjury in my shoulder, I was

(15:48):
close to pushing 315 prettyclean on the bench, but then I
was.
We went in in December and wewere doing some heavy shrugs in
the rack, rack shrugs and Ithink I had 405 pounds doing
shrugs with 405 and I thinkthat's what did it.
It might have been a little bittoo much weight to do shrugs.
I mean, that's some heavyshrugs and doing you know

(16:09):
315-pound bent over rows.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
you know that'll get your shoulder running.
It will, man, but it'll buildthem lats too Right.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Right, it does.
So I think we might haveovertrained the shoulder.
But this last meet I squatted525, deadlifted 475 and I only
benched like 185.
That is what we call tokenbench.
So, uh, I'm working on gettingthe bench back up and getting
the numbers up and I'm hopingaround november.
I want to squat, hopefullyaround 600, I want to pull 550

(16:39):
and I want to push three plates.
That's the goal.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
okay, so you're getting close to that 1000
pounds, yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Oh, yeah, yeah, Well, getting getting, hopefully, you
know, around 1500.
Is you know if I can do 1500pounds total as a as a 40 year
old guy?

Speaker 3 (16:53):
I'll be pretty happy.
Well, see, that's what it comesdown to Like.
As you get older, you, you wantto be able to continue to enjoy
the things that you do, and youknow that requires you to do
certain things.
Um, you have to.
So you can either have a choiceof hey, I can just sit here and
rot and not be able to do thethings that I really want to

(17:13):
enjoy doing, or I can take ainitiative and do the things
that I need to do in order to behappy and live a fulfilling
life.
Cause, when, when I think if, uh, how, I'm going to die, it's
not going to be laying in a bed,uh, you know wishing I would
have, you know, taken advantageof all the things that life has,
I'm going to go out the waythat I want to go out, you know,

(17:35):
um, and, and that's enjoyinglife, spending time with your
family, spending time with yourfriends, and really, for me,
it's all about spending timewith my daughter, so that, you
know, being able to travel and,like, go with her.
She, she's a littleeight-year-old wrestler man.
Like she just won, uh, aaunationals um up in tennessee.
Like two weeks of may actually,I think it was saturday we went

(17:57):
up to tennessee.
Um, so being able to travelaround to her wrestling
competitions is those are thethings that I enjoy doing and
that's one of the reasons that,you know, you know, over the
last two years we really had tokind of scale back on how busy I
was, because I'm missing out onall these opportunities to
spend with my daughter and mywife, and that's that's really

(18:19):
what makes me happy is beingable to, you know, go and see
them compete and having a familythat competes, like I compete a
lot, or let me rephrase that Idid compete a lot until this
accident and it was.
It was amazing, man, like mydaughter, we're at a jiu jitsu
tournament and my daughter'scoaching me.
My daughter is on the floor.
She's like yelling at me, likewatching her dad, like when

(18:40):
these tournaments, and she'slike coaching and yelling, and
then now she goes to a wrestlingtournament and I'm the one
coaching her and it's just, it'sa great feeling, man, to be
able to do that oh man, I knowthat makes you so proud.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Oh yeah, I have a smile on my face so huge.
There's nothing a guy wantsmore than to be capable, be in
shape, be able to take care ofhimself, look as good as he can,
look for his partner, take careof of his kids, take care of
his family.
You know, live your best lifeand I don't have a problem with
that at all.
I think that you know whereI've been on my journey in the
last, you know, year or two.

(19:12):
Especially is this fitnessjourney that I've been on.
I've been a little obsessiveabout it, you know.
I mean, I work two hours a dayin the gym, four days a week, so
I do eight hours in the gym aweek and I work hard.
I mean we do, we do a lot ofwork and, um, it's, it's
addictive, you know it gets to apoint that, uh, that I miss it.
Like if, if I, on a day thatI'm resting like I know I'm

(19:34):
going to rest on Wednesdays I'mlike I feel like I want to go to
the gym, you know I don't wantto rest, you know.
So of course, the TRT does helpwith that.
I am on TRT as well, just likeyou are, and, and I like it, I
like the way I feel.
I mean not to beat a dead horse, but you know it's not bad.
Overall, though, I do feel likewith the working out aspect, I

(19:57):
think it's something that everyperson should strive for.
Everyone should, you know, seethe best version of themselves
that they can be at least oncein their life.
And you know what better timethan in your golden years?
As you get older, you know ifyou can see the full measure of
your physical physique.
I feel like you have a betterchance of getting like really
yoked when you're in your 30sand 40s.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah, you can't beat the natural Like.
So let's not make any mistakes.
If you're 20 or 30 and you have900 to 1,000 tests, naturally
you're fine.
You can't out-supplement that.
That is a natural test level.
That is just phenomenal.
You're going to be able to goto the gym.

(20:40):
You're going to be able to justget absolutely shredded.
The problem is, when you are 30or 40, you have like 300 tests
like you're not going to getnothing out of that.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, I'm talking about just like the, the, the
opportunity for a person to getlike absolutely yoked.
I mean, you look at some ofthese power lifters, you look at
some of these um bodybuildersand things.
It's like they don't really getlike into their prime until
they're like in their forties,you know, in early fifties, and
then they start to like wow,like that physique is perfect,
that lift is perfect, like, wow,they're strong as they've ever

(21:12):
been.
So it's like this is anexciting time in a person's life
.
When you're in your latethirties, early forties, you
know, if you do want to make achange, if you do want to, you
know, get in the gym and have ago, especially if you didn't do
it younger in life.
You know I never really did alot in the gym, ever when I was
younger I was just kind of ascrawny, nerdy kid.
You know I never really did alot, even in the military.

(21:33):
I remember A very ripped guyLike I was.
Just, you know I was kind ofscrawny, I mean, I was pretty
tiny, you know.
But now though, it's justreally interesting to see that
you know you can definitely takethat physical fitness to a new
level, which I think is veryimportant.

(21:54):
So I'm glad to hear that theJiu-Jitsu Academy is doing well.
And you know, you know what I'vebeen doing with the power
lifting.
I've been working a lot on thehouse, doing some improvements.
I know every time I call youyou're working on the house.
I know, man, I know I've beendoing a lot of work and, um,
things have been really good.
I'm I'm very blessed.
I have a wonderful partner thatI love very much and she treats

(22:15):
me really great and, dude, it'sbeen, it's been going so well
that's what it's about, man yeah, yes, sweet girl, she's great
and uh, she and I've been doinga lot of fun things together,
going on trips, going places.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Enjoying life, yeah, and I mean just to kind of go
Playing with the dogs.
To go back to what you weresaying about TRT and I know this
whole episode isn't about TRT,no, however, I think it's very
important that people understandlike there is a divide.
There's people that they'relike hey, you, you shouldn't do

(22:49):
trt.
Like, but why why right?
Like the real question, why not?
You're 40, 50 years old and I'mgonna.
It's going to allow me to enjoymy life significantly more than
if I didn't do it.
And what's the harm?
It's a victimless.
Like.
If you're like oh, it's notnatural.
Like who cares?
Like the epitome of freedom Ican do what I want.

(23:12):
Like it's me, it's my body,life, liberty and the pursuit of
happiness.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
That's it, man.
Like, why not?
What's wrong with pursuinghappiness?
I mean, as long as youunderstand the risks and you
understand what goes into it andyou understand all of the
underlying implications, wellthen that's up to you to decide
whether or not it's for you.
And I, for one, I really enjoythe idea of medical science.
I mean well-studied,well-backed, well-funded,

(23:38):
well-researched science that youknow.
Look, we have so much at ourfingertips that people didn't
have in the fifties and forties.
And you know, back in the day,the golden era of power lifting
and bodybuilding, people didn'thave all the supplementation.
And, yeah, sure, you have some,really, you know, yoked natural
lifters.
But man, it's just, it'sexciting to know that you know

(24:02):
even people who are having someissues with, let's just say,
their testosterone, that theycan still experience good gains
in the gym and a healthy malelifestyle.
And hey, what's wrong with that?
Anyway, so we'll move on alittle bit and I tell you a lot
has happened since you and Ihave made a podcast, and I know
that.

(24:22):
You know, in some previousepisodes we've talked about a
variety of different subjects.
For those of you who are justtuning back in and maybe you
haven't tuned into an episode ina while or if you've never
heard of LLP.
We have done a variety ofdifferent things.
As I mentioned before, we didthe fight or flight series, but
also we've done talks aboutprepping and talks about, you

(24:46):
know, different firearms and allsorts of gun stuff as well.
So you know, at our core welove guns and we've talked about
a variety of different subjectssome political subjects,
subjects of war, you knowforeign affairs, world events
and things like that.
So a lot has happened.
Okay, in the last year or two.

(25:07):
I mean, we haven't even reallyspoken that much.
I know you and I willoccasionally text each other,
hey, how's life, but not a deepconversation like this where
we're really diving into what'sreally going on.
And when I say what's reallygoing on, how are you feeling
about the world?
How are you feeling aboutsociety?
How are you feeling about howthings are going?

(25:27):
You know the direction of thecountry.
You know we just had this crazyelection.
I mean, we know the president.
Now you and I have not even hada discussion since Trump was
elected.
So spill the beans.
How do you feel right now aboutit?

Speaker 3 (25:43):
all.
So spill the beans.
How do you feel right now aboutit all?
And this was when she had juststarted kind of turning more
into like the second amendmentand she was going to shooting

(26:05):
ranges and she was, you know,she was professing her love for
the second amendment in general.
She kind of went back to likewhy she felt feels the way she
did, why she kind of turned herback on on the democratic party
and, um, you know, I never had aproblem with her.
After she did that.
People were like, oh, you can'ttrust her.

(26:26):
Like if that was the case you'dnever trust anybody.
Because the whole point ofchanging someone's mind if you
change their mind and then yousay, well, okay, I managed to
change your mind, but I don'ttrust you Like what was the
point of that?

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Someone must be willing to accept new
information process, thatinformation and potentially have
a change of heart.
Exactly new information process, that information and
potentially have a change ofheart, exactly.
Is that to say that TulsiGabbard has had a change of
heart about the Second Amendment?
I mean, one would certainlythink so, you know, based on a
lot of the things that she'stalked about in some of her.
You know stances and we know,you know now, that she has a

(27:01):
position in Trump's cabinetalong with Kennedy.
So, you know, I think he'sgreat too.
You know, I know that duringthe election, there's always
going to be this mudslingingfest that occurs during an
election, and they're alwaysgoing to.
You know, even people who,after the election, they're
going to be kind of buddy-buddybeforehand.

(27:22):
It's like there's this, thiscompetition of ideas and this
competition of of literalconsequence of elections, right,
you know.
And rfk uh ran against trump,and early on he dropped out, of
course, and and supported trump,but at first, though, he was
running against trump.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
So so, and so was vivek there was a lot of people
that were running that were kindof like they were good but not
not trump, like they weren't asgood as Trump.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Right.
And Vivek, you know, I do feellike he was a good candidate.
He's a very well-spoken guy,he's very intelligent.
I do think he's a very smartguy and I think he has a lot of
good, forward-thinking ideasthat are not progressive in
nature, but really moreconservative in nature, but
still progressive if that makessense.
No, it does.

(28:09):
And I think that there is a fineline between, you know, being a
progressive and being aconservative.
You know you want society toprogress in a way that is, you
know, going to look out for thebest interests of a collective
society.
You know, to the truest form,that you possibly can and be as
fair and equitable as possible,but you also never want to
completely abolish or do awaywith the institutions that make

(28:32):
your country what it is.
And conservatism at its core isreally all about respecting the
past and acknowledging the past, but also understanding where
we came from, how we got here,who built this country, what
principles it was founded on,and we really have to ask
ourselves what do we really wantto accomplish as a country?
You know, vivek, you know right, it's not that Vivek wasn't a

(28:57):
good candidate, it's just thathe wasn't Trump.
And you're right there, youtook the words right out of my
mouth in that Trump is a largerthan life force and many people
know from following me over theyears that you know I have not
always agreed with Donald Trumpon everything.
Trump and I have not alwaysagreed and saw eye to eye.

(29:18):
Many people consider Trump to bea closet Democrat, or maybe
even blatantly a Democrat whoruns as a Republican, and you
know what.
Or maybe even blatantly aDemocrat who runs as a
Republican, and you know what.
I'm willing to say.
That's all right, honestly,because I look at a person's
actions.
I look at what they do.
I look at where their heart isat.
I look at the consequences ofeverything.

(29:38):
I look at the way theyrepresent the country.
I look at the bravado andbravery that they apply to the
standards that they have.
Do they represent me as anAmerican?
If I was sitting in the room,would I have a moment?
Would I go wow, that guy reallyjust said something that
resonated with me, or he didsomething that resonated with me

(29:59):
.
Okay, it's like the way to lookat a president in a way is and
don't take this the wrong way,I'm not saying Trump's daddy,
but you almost have to look atlike a family unit, right, like,
okay, if the father in thefamily is going to be a good
father, he's going tooccasionally have to do some
things that are going to makethe family unit a little bit

(30:21):
distressed here and there.
Right Like, the kid may go tomom and go well, daddy took away
my iPad because I was acting up.
Can I have it back?
Well, and the mom's going tosay well, I'm not going to give
you your iPad back because yourdad took it, right.
So I'm not suggesting thatpeople are like infantile, like
children have to be treated likechildren, but it's almost like,
when you have such a high powerlike that, someone like a

(30:44):
president, it doesn't matterwhat decisions you make or how
well-intentioned your decisionsare going to be.
You're going to upset somebody.
Someone somewhere in the mix isnot going to be happy with what
you have to say or what youractions are.
So, and when I say that Idisagree with Donald Trump on a

(31:05):
lot of things, that doesn'tnecessarily mean that I don't
respect him as a person orrespect him as the president, or
think that he's doing afantastic job.
Because he is, I think he'sdoing a fantastic job, I agree

(31:27):
and go.
Hey, I can disagree with you onthis one little area like, such
as the bump stock ban, or hisposition on some of his two way
positions, which have beenlukewarm.
To me personally, some of hisstatements have been lukewarm
and fallen on a lukewarm placein my heart.
It's okay for me to acknowledgethat that exists, but still
think that he is a fantastic guy, you know, a brave guy who
represents my values, even ifhe's a self-proclaimed Democrat,

(31:50):
even if he is a closet Democrat, that's okay.
Kennedy was a Democrat, right,and he was a very well-respected
Democrat.
Everyone loved John Kennedy,that's right, all right.
What did John Kennedy want todo?
All right, all right.
All these Kennedy papers justgot released.
Let's talk about you.
Have you been?

Speaker 3 (32:07):
reading up on that.
No, I haven't had time to sitthere and read through all.
Well, I don't think anyone has.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
There's a lot of documentation, but look what
happened to Kennedy.
Kennedy was trying to blow theentire lid off of this banking
cabal and this you know worldgovernment and this you know,
this sort of underhanded crapthat's been going on in our
country.
He was going to blow the lidoff of it and shut it all down,
and what happened?

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Took him out and that that they already and he was a
Democrat.
Yeah, they already said thatthere was some some ties to to
some inside job there.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Well, you know, and, and there's talks of Mossad,
there's talks of CIA, there'stalks of dark money, there's
talks of slush money, andthere's there's talks of all
sorts of nefarious things.
And if it's one thing ourcountry has always been in the
business of matt is regimechange.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Oh yeah, not just with our country, but with other
countries, like even oh, welove to meddle in other
countries.
Yeah, absolutely, we're like,hey, we're gonna, but you know
what it never works out.
Every single time, every singletime we put our, put our hands
in the cookie jar, it's comeback to bite us.
Man, yeah, look at the Bay ofPigs.
Yeah Well, yeah, bay of Pigs,you had Saddam, you had like all

(33:16):
of the Middle East, the wholeEgypt and the what is it?
The Brotherhood, whatever thatwas like.
We Brotherhood, whatever thatwas, I was like, every single
time that we meddled in therefor thinking that we were going
to do something good, came backto bite us, you know what really
gets me, man, is we had such agreat relationship with Iran in
the 70s.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
I was like what happened?
We completely screwed that up.
I was going to drop the F-bomb,but I didn't want to.
We completely screwed that up.
I mean, we had such a greatrelationship with Iran.
They were very westernized,they were very forward-thinking,
they were very progressive,which you know for a country
like Iran.
I mean, believe me, you hadwomen walking around wearing

(33:57):
western clothes, acting you know, going to clubs.
It's like wow, what is this?
We had a great relationship.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Well, think about how much of a relationship we have
with a country that we sell them.
No, we don't sell them.
We allow the sale of one ofyour best naval fighter jets,
which was like the F-14 Tomcat.
At the time, they were the onlycountry to receive that
technology.
They were able to purchase thattechnology and that was the
sole reason that America stoppedproducing that and they

(34:29):
deadlined all of their F-14s wasbecause they didn't want Iran
to get spare parts for theirexisting jets.
That's never happened.
Now we sell F-16s, like toother countries.
Oh, but we got so many planesthat will smoke F-16 now, but
like the F-14 at the time,revolutionary, biggest baddest,
yeah, biggest baddest.

(34:50):
And they were like oh, yes,please, iran, you're allowed to
buy these.
And then we dropped the balland we're like deadline, all the
aircraft.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
You know, I'd like to be a fly on the wall to just
know how those conversations goLike.
When does diplomacy dissolve tonothing?
Like at what point doesdiplomacy just go out the window
and it's like, well, we werefriends, now we're not.
Imagine how scary that is as aworld leader to think.
I mean, imagine how incompetentBiden was.

(35:18):
I mean that's a whole notherdiscussion.
I mean he was not presidential,he was not there.
You know, definitelyexperiencing I don't know
Alzheimer's or no telling whatsort of cognitive, you know
degeneration in his brain orwhatever.
You know, you get older youbegin to lose your marbles a

(35:39):
little bit.
And I'm not saying the guy youknow is a bad person or whatever
.
I mean some would say he's abad person.
But I'm just trying to beobjective here and just say that
you know the man definitely wasunfit to serve.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
I can objectively say that through my entire life on
this planet, that was probablythe worst four years that I've
ever experienced.
Like it was very, very bad.
Like it was.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Imagine being bad Like it was Imagine being a
world leader and you're meetingwith that Magoo guy.
I mean, he's just such a MagooLike he's just Like Weekend at
Bernie's, like they've got himpropped up on telling what kind
of meds and handlers, and it'slike you're going to have a
discussion about the wherewithalof the power of the world, the

(36:28):
struggle of the world power, andhe is your person that you're
sending to have that discussion.
Like imagine how and how crappyyour hands you're in at that
point.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
And then imagine going from that to trump so to
touch on that, I just rememberthe when they had the easter,
like the little eas celebration,they had one of his handlers in
that pink bunny suit.
The pink bunny suit guy waslike walking Biden around to
make sure he didn't wander off.
I was like that's, that's crazy.

(36:55):
But to go from that to Trumpand I, and just real quick, the
reason that I like Trump isbecause he he treats people like
if you do something wrong,he'll tell you.
Like when he was meeting withzielinski, he was like you never
said thank you, you never.
140 billion dollars.

(37:15):
You never even said thank youand the next thing, you know,
the next day he comes out and hegives a public, a public thank
you for.
Like hey, thanks for thanks forgiving us so much.
All you had to do was ask.
But the whole time they werejust giving these people money,
money, money.
Never even asked for anything.
No, thank you nothing.
That's our money, man.
That's money that the Americanshave given to the government

(37:39):
and a lot of that money wasbeing filtered all the way back
through PACs and everything.
Half of it is unaccounted for.
So I'm like, where did all thisgo?
Oh, we, we know where it went.
It went right back here intosome pocket, something,
something bugatti, veyron, Idon't know, but I mean.
But I mean so and look at the p, the cabinet people that he put

(37:59):
in place.
Man like this is like thebiggest, and that's why I
appreciate he goes hey, we'regonna put kash patel, dan
Bongino, tulsi Gabbard.
He's putting the people thatwere spited for the entire last
presidency.
He's like well, these are thepeople that you guys kind of
bent over.
We're going to put them incharge and then now they get to

(38:21):
go through and find outeverything.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
I'm not a huge fan of pam bondy.
So far it's been kind oflukewarm with you.
Notice I left her out.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
I'm like I'm not a huge fan of that yeah it's, it's
been a little lukewarm with her.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
I mean I'm I'm really hoping that we're gonna see
some indictments, we're gonnasee some arrests, but I don't
know.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
That was a whole dog and pony show about the.
You know we're gonna releasethe files.
And then was like we alreadyknow, this stuff, this whole
binder, is stuff that wasalready published.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
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Absolutely, let's get back toit.
So, epstein, all right, there'sall this talk right now and
everything going on with how PamBondi withheld, uh, let's just
say, the juice, juicy details ofthe Epstein file.
Uh, due to concerns fornational security.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
So that was the big thing.
It was like it's like, what isit?
Yeah, like if you are going toput out the information, that
you might as well just put outall the information and redacted
it.
There would have been nodifference between what you did
by saying, hey, we can't put outthis information Cause it's not
, it's a a, you know it's badfor national security.

(42:06):
You could just put it out andjust redact it.
You would have had the same,the same effect.
People would have been like,why is all this redacted?
But now you're gonna, you'rejust.
But at least they'd have it,but at least they'd have it.
But now they're still not gonnaput it out.
Yeah, redact the names.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Do something you know protect the identities of the
accused, or whatever.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
I'm not going to hold my breath that anything else is
going to come out of that,because that that well is very,
very deep.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Well, I think and you know this isn't just what I
think I've also, you know, donesome research and been, you know
, reading a lot and, and youknow, opinions are on the
internet, are what they areEveryone's got an opinion, and
there's a right opinion, there'sa wrong opinion, and then
there's something in betweenwhere maybe the truth is
somewhere in there, right, butyou can't help but think that

(42:54):
the whole Epstein drama was justa honeypot operation.
They were saying that Epsteinwas Mossad okay, working for the
Israelis, mossad okay, workingfor the Israelis, and that he
was trying to basically run thishoneypot operation to get
damning evidence against worldleaders of the P word.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Okay, I'm not going to go there, but let's just say
child abuse for a better lack ofterm, which, which is happens
to be the number one thing thatthey always use, because it's
very, very like unequivocallydamning.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Yeah and taboo.
I mean, there are very fewplaces in the western moral
society where that type ofbehavior is going to be
tolerated.
So they know, if they can pegyou for abusing children,
they've got you.
And if they've got you andthey've got you made, uh,
they've, you know, conductedthis honeypot operation, then
that means that jeffrey epsteingot you.
And if they've got you andthey've got you made, uh,
they've, you know, conductedthis honeypot operation, then
that means that jeffrey epsteinowns you and whatever he tells

(43:51):
you to do, you're going to do,or he's going to use the
evidence that he has against you.
And uh, and what do you thinkhe's?
You know, where is he gettinghis marching orders?
Well, if he's massad, well thenisrael's giving him those
marching orders.
And I think that there's been,you know, to kind of go back to
the JFK files getting releasedand you know, people finally

(44:13):
getting some closure on whathappened to Kennedy.
You know there are some punditswithin the industry that have
said, well, that was back in the60s and we shouldn't be worried
about something that happenedso long ago.
Come on, no, you're just sayingthat because the people that
are involved in it are yourpeople and you don't want to,

(44:34):
you know, say anything negativeabout.
You know israel, and that'sreally what it all comes down to
.
Now I'm not going to go there,but you know it.
It begins to paint a picturethat you know over time it ends
up being like the same people.
It's always the same people.
It's always the same people.
It's always the same.

(44:54):
And I mean, at what point doyou have to eventually call that
what it is?
You can't ignore that for muchlonger.
You have to eventually go.
Well, wow, like, okay, thisregime was toppled.
This is who was involved.
This president was assassinated.
This is who was involved.
You know the jury's out on allthis stuff.

(45:17):
Oh, this huge ring of childabusers and Mossad was involved.
Oh, these people were involved.
Well, after a while you kind ofstart to think, well, damn,
every bad thing going on thesepeople were involved with
somehow.
And you kind of think, well,man, they got their hand in many
a dirty pot.
And that kind of makes mewonder about who these people

(45:39):
really are and what theirintentions are.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
Well, what it comes down to is, if you look at all
of the people that are runningthe government per se, the
that's the reason that trump wassuch a disruption, because look
at, like israel had netanyahu,netanyahu, netanyahu the guy's
been there forever, man like Ican't remember the guy before

(46:03):
him because he's been there solong.
But look at the us governmenttrump.
That wasn't supposed to happen.
Man like he.
That was not supposed to happen.
That was a complete wrench inthe system.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Little trump, really does support israel, though you
know he's a, he's an ally toisrael.
He did he, he moved the.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
He moved the.
Uh, what is that thing called?

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Overton.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Window.
No, no, no.
He moved the diplomatic officefrom I guess somewhere to
Jerusalem, which was like a bigdeal, like they moved the whole
thing.
But when you look at it, solook at all the presidents
before that.
The only other president thatwas new to the game was Obama.
So Obama was like a first termsenator.

(46:46):
You know that got thepresidency cool, everything else
before that there were lifers.
They had been in government.
They were sent like bidensenator since oh look at biden
50 years, 50 plus years ingovernment bush yeah, they're
some form of government.
they had been suckling off thegovernment's teat for, you know,
their entire life.

(47:07):
And then you have two guys thatcome in and just completely
turn it upside down.
Obama turned it upside downFirst year.
Senator Trump comes in one term, then he comes out, comes back
for that.
I don't think that's everhappened, actually.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
And they just knew that Hillary was going to win in
2016.
That's what's so crazy about it.
Like fox was showing thepolling numbers like 97, oh,
hillary clinton's polling 97.
It's gonna be an overwhelmingvictory for hillary clinton,
like they had it pegged for her.
It's like the media wasliterally pulling cover for her
and what, what a disappointmentwhen when they did this, they

(47:44):
did the same thing for biden.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
It was like the wildest thing.
They're like, yeah, they'relike, oh, he's, he's, he's
polling so high and he's goingto blow it out.
It was literally the completeopposite.
It was like I've never seennumbers that low.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
It's like they had they actually had the receipts
to back it up that time, youknow, in 2020.
So, anyway, we're not going tonecessarily get into the
wherewithal of 2020, but let'sjust say there was a huge
disappointment.
But now fast forward to wherewe are now and yes, it's been a
very eventful couple of yearsand, you know, I'm I have hope

(48:16):
that things are going to getbetter.
You know, yes, are there thingsthat I disagree with Trump on?
Obviously there are.
I mean, and I feel like, if youhave a friend, or if you have
an acquaintance or just anyonethat you do business with, or if
you just someone in your life,someone you have a relationship
with, it could be a spouse, apartner, it could be anyone
right, you're going to have someinevitable disagreement about

(48:40):
something and I think, if you'renot honest with yourself in
that, if you can't go, okay,well, there's one little tiny
hiccup here and let's talk aboutit, let's discuss it, let's
have some discourse about it andthen let's see if we can change
our minds on it.
I mean, I think that's what theapex of being an adult is is
the ability to change your mindwith the, you know, addition of

(49:01):
new information and everythinglike that.
So you know, I'm trying my bestto keep an open mind about
Trump.
I do think he's a good person,I think he's trying to do the
right thing.
I mean, the guy could be on agolf course right now, but
instead he's taking the moststressful office the country has
to offer.
I mean, being president is astressful damn job.
The most stressful office thecountry has to offer.

(49:22):
I mean, being president is astressful damn job.
It's not an easy thing, youknow Well, I mean Biden took
what?
200 vacation days or something.
I mean that's a whole nother.
That's a whole nother.
A whole nother bag of apples.
But but when taken for facevalue at its full potential, you
know, being president is noteasy.
You know you're on call 24seven.
I mean you, you were basicallythe leader of the free world in
a lot of ways.
Like everything that goes ongeopolitically in the entire

(49:45):
planet is going to cross yourdesk.
If something happens, you'regoing to know and you may have
to respond.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
And everything you do , every response, every action
there's, there's going to be areaction, whether it's adverse
or beneficial.
That's a very, very tough wayto live the next four years of
your life To know thateverything that you do is going

(50:14):
to be scrutinized, everythingthat you do is going to have a
reaction to another country.
Like you do one thing andsomebody says oh, you were
talking bad about.
You know this, we're going toput tariffs.
Or you know, why are youplaying so much golf?
Why are you spending time withyour family?
Why are you not, you know,getting these briefings?

Speaker 2 (50:33):
And because you're a Republican, the media, of course
is going to freaking paint youwith the worst light possible.
They're going to be very unfairto you when you're a Republican
.
Of course, the media playscover for the Democrats, which
we know from a lot ofinformation that's been put out,
especially when we look at thewhole Facebook debacle and
Zuckerberg going before Congress.
Now we know that intelligenceagencies or law enforcement

(50:59):
agencies actually went tocompanies like Facebook and, you
know, pressured them to censorpeople.
So when you look at it underthat light, you realize that the
entire media complex is reallyjust a disinformation propaganda
complex that's controlled bythe Democrats.
And when you look at that, youfollow the money and you see
where all the money goes.
All this slush money is sort ofgoing out to these projects and

(51:22):
they're getting sent outthrough PACs and they're, you
know, essentially sort oflaundering the money to their
buddies, to, I mean, gosh.
I think when Doge was looking,we haven't talked about Doge.
We might have to save that forthe next episode.
We're going to talk about Dogein the next episode.
Stay tuned for next week, y'all?

(51:43):
Okay, we post every week hereon LLP, so there's more.
However, when you look at whatDoge has been uncovering, which
I agree with, with what they'redoing, of course.
They saw that there were somelike millions of dollars worth
of subscriptions to the New YorkTimes yes, I said the premium
subscriptions, yes, and it'slike well, why did they?
have all these subscriptions,you know.
So what you learn is that well,why do they have all these
subscriptions?
So what you learn is that'sessentially a way they can

(52:04):
launder money to the New YorkTimes.
Oh well, we're giving themmillions of dollars worth of
subscriptions, taxpayer money orwherever it's coming from, pacs
or whatever.
However, they have to wash it.
But when you look at it underthat guise, what do you think
the New York Times is going toreport?
Are they going to report whatthe truth, what people need to

(52:25):
hear?
Are they going to report whattheir Democrat handler, who just
sent them that fat check forthe subscriptions for the year,
wants them to report?
You better believe they'regoing to have some editorial
control over the content whenthey're pumping millions of
dollars into that company and,and dare I say, propping up the
company by doing so.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
No, it's true, and half of what you're reading in
those uh, you know newspapersper se?
Um is not editorials.
They're editorials that it'sliterally an ad disguised as
whatever.
Then it's the ad for thedemocratic party or an ad
disguised as whatever.
And it's an ad for theDemocratic Party or an ad for a
certain pack.
It's just insane.

(53:05):
And it's getting harder andharder to discern what is what.
And the one thing I'm glad youbrought up Zuck, the one thing
that I noticed, was the completechange of his demeanor, of his
attitude, of the way he looks.
When he was, when he first wenton rogan and it was the, it was

(53:26):
the biden harris administrationand they were talking about you
know the whole like hey, we'reum censoring what was on
facebook.
He looked like a hostage.
He's like very robotic.
He like he was made of wax.
It was like those hey, blinktwice if you're in distress.
Like no facial expressions,very, very scared.
He looked scared, likegenuinely scared.

(53:49):
Fast forward to him going backunder a completely different
administration.
Dude, looks like a surfer.
He's like hang out, hang 10.
He's like very open with whathe did, like this is what they
told me to do.
This is why they told me to doit and I'm like this is a
complete 180 from what, from oneadministration to another, and

(54:11):
it just goes to show you thepower that these administrations
have over these social mediacompanies.
They can really kind of controlwhat they want.
And what kind of power do youhave to make somebody like
freeze up like that?
He's just like oh.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
I know that's wild and I'll tell you.
Um, what Zuckerberg could useis some tactical under bridges,
all right.
So that leads us to our nextsponsor.
We're going to go ahead andgive a chat about under tackcom,
and we have some tactical underbridges here that we're gonna
be checking out.
So I'm gonna tell you what.
Why don't you show them offwhile I talk?

(54:47):
All right about that?
Here you got some under bridges.
Now we haven't opened these up,y'all.
One is recon and one isinfantry.
So he's thinking that the reconis gonna be like little white.
Yeah, they were like the white.
Okay, you ready here here'd belike the white.
Okay, you ready here here.
All right.
So I'll read and you be myVanna White over here, all right
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Speaker 3 (56:35):
Bro, these are nice man.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Damn son, Let me see one of them.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
These are like.
So I was completely wrong man.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
The infantry are actually a little bit shorter,
are they?
Yeah, I want the short ones,man, those are not, but they're
super soft, man.
They even say infantry on them.
Look, I can have britches thatsay infantry dude.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
They have like a little pouch in the front.
I don't I you're going to putin there.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Oh, wow, okay.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
I'm liking that Dude.
The socks are straight too.
Those are really soft, yeah,like a merino wool blend.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
I mean, what infantryman doesn't need socks
and underwear?
I mean, now come on the basisof your entire existence.
I mean that, right there,that's everything a grown boy
needs.
Well, maybe zuck could get himsome under tack.
You know, it is strange whenyou you look at the way these
people act.
They don't act like real people.
They act very robotic and Ialways thought that strange.

(57:32):
You know, you look at the waythings are going and but he
didn't look like a robot.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
On the second one that was the.
That was the weird thing helooked like like his skin was a
different color, like he wasactually like a human.
The first one he was like alike a robot man.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
I was like you know, I feel like this conversation is
going to kind of end up flowinginto episode two.
Um, you know we are back y'all.
Dude, we're doing llp now oncea week, so you're going to see a
new episode.
Um, I think we're going torelease on fridays, although I
believe this first episode isgoing up on April 1st, and I
promise this is not an AprilFool's joke, not an April Fool's

(58:04):
joke.
We are back y'all, and I'm veryexcited to see where LLP is
going to go.
And you know it's been great tocatch up with Matt, but we have
much more catching up to do.
So I hope that you'll tune innext week for our next episode,
and we're going to discussprobably more of the same, but
we'll get into some gun stufftoo.
There's some things I want totalk about that's been going on

(58:25):
in the 2A world, as you know atheart.
You know we obviously are a gunchannel here on IRAC Veteran
8888, which is probably wheremany of you are consuming this
particular podcast.
Matt, you had mentioned thatthere's a forum where people can
submit questions.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
So, yes, we're going to have a link at the top of the
description underneath all ofour episodes so you guys can
click on that link and send usmessages and questions and we're
going to take our time.
We're going to answer some ofthose questions on every podcast
.
So that way, and it can bequestions about anything,
because the podcasts are abouteverything.
It's not anything specific.

(58:59):
Like Eric said, yeah, we are agun channel at heart about
anything, because the podcastsare about everything.
It's not, uh, anything specific.
Like eric said, yeah, we are,we are gun channel at heart, but
a lot of these long formatconversations have a way of
deviating into the more everydaylife.
So, whatever questions you guyshave, uh, we're happy to answer
them yeah, um, so I do have abunch of questions.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
I I went on twitter earlier.
I just wanted to acknowledgeyou, uh folks that submitted
some questions.
I really appreciate y'all doingthat.
I will answer.
Matt and I will both answersome of these questions in the
next episode next week.
So make sure you tune in nextweek and we'll hit a Q&A session
.
I wasn't able to hit the Q&Asession up for this particular
episode, but I'm glad that we'reable to just stick to Chewing

(59:37):
the Fat.
That's what LLP is about.
It's about life.
It's about us just doing ourthing, and I really enjoyed this
first episode.
It was so great to get back andwe have so much cool stuff in
store.
And also, if you do go throughthe questionnaire and send us
some comments, let us know.
Are there some guests that youwould like to see on here?
Give us some episode ideas, orthere's some things you'd like

(01:00:02):
us, some topics to discuss andcover in a long format?
Let us know and we'lldefinitely try to jump into it.
We'll take your suggestions toheart and, of course, ask any
questions you want or just givea comment, whatever.
Are you liking the show?
Do you like the format?
How's the lighting, how's theaudio?
How's Lisa's editing?
Look guys, matt's wife, lisa,is doing the editing.

(01:00:24):
So a big shout out to her.
She's helping us edit the showand she is a battle ax and I
know she can do it and I knowit's going to be fantastic.
So thank you, lisa, and I'mtelling you I'm looking forward
to what we're going to be ableto come up with and let me know.
If you guys have any questionsor whatever you know, or if
you're on YouTube, feel free todrop into the comment section
and, you know, let us know whatyou're thinking.

(01:00:45):
Did you enjoy the show?
Do you like the format?
Do you like the long formformat?
Do you like?
You know, tell me what you like, what you don't like, give me
your feedback and we'll take itto heart.
We'll integrate it into theshow.
I do just some housekeeping.
You know I am going to upgradesome of the lighting.
You know I'm happy with themics.

(01:01:09):
You know these Shures are great.
This is the same ones Roganuses and they're great.
But overall I feel like theaudio is pretty good on these
shows and everything.
But just from a housekeepingstandpoint, I am wanting to do
some upgrades in the studio.
So I know we had discussed someceiling lighting so we'll see
we're going to bougie it upy'all so we'll have fun with it.
But thank you guys so much fortuning in to this week's episode
of LLP.
Thank you all so very much forsupporting what we do, and a big

(01:01:32):
thanks again to our sponsorstoday for taking care of us and
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Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
And Matt, anything before we go?
No, I mean, I'm just happy tobe back.
I know there's going to be alot of happy people.
I get messages.
There's been people that havemessaged me and said, hey, why
are there no shows, like, whereare they at?
So as soon as this thing goeslive, they're going to get that
alert.
So if you guys aren't alreadysubscribed, subscribe either on
YouTube.
If you want audio only, I knowa ton of you guys listen while

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So you guys can hit subscribeon either Apple Podcasts or
Spotify.
Listen to the audio only formatas well.
But that's mainly where we getthe questions.
Guys are like hey, I needsomething to listen to at work,
I need something to listen to onthe way to work or I'm driving
a truck.
So, guys, you know, at ourheight two years ago, we were in

(01:02:26):
140 countries.
We were being listened to inevery single state in the U S.
It was amazing.
So thank you so much, guys.
We were, we were doing reallywell.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Yeah, and you know those of you that are out there,
you know hitting the dailygrind.
You're out there driving towork, you're driving home from
work.
You know you got a long commute.
You're in your car a lot.
You're listening to the radio,you know.
Just you know, keep hammeringit out, keep, keep on keeping on
like.
You know you guys are rockingit and I know you know that it's

(01:02:53):
hard.
Sometimes Life can be hard andyou know my grandpa was a truck
driver.
He was on the road a lot and Iknow there was a lot of times we
missed having him around andyou know.
So, just know, if you're one ofthe people you're commuting,
you're working hard, you're outon the road, you know the
country's pulling for you.
You know it takes a lot ofpeople to make this machine
operate and I appreciate youbeing a part of that.

(01:03:13):
Thank you so much.
Many more on the way.
We'll see you guys next week.
Lop, we're out.
Bye, everybody.

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