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The concept of "prepping" has undergone a remarkable transformation in recent years. What was once viewed as extreme behavior practiced by fringe groups has evolved into a mainstream approach to self-sufficiency embraced by Americans across the political spectrum.

Eric and Matt dive deep into what truly defines the prepper mindset—not paranoia about doomsday, but a practical desire for self-reliance. As they expertly frame it, "A prepper is someone who doesn't want to rely on someone else for their safety and security." This fundamental shift reflects growing awareness that being prepared isn't excessive; it's responsible.

We explore how preparedness culture has been commercialized, making it more accessible to average Americans. From freeze-dried food systems that maintain nutritional value for decades to turnkey backup power solutions, the industry has adapted to America's "have-it-now" lifestyle. Yet beneath this commercialization lies a return to traditional American values—the self-sufficiency that was once standard practice for families who preserved their own food and maintained household resilience.

The conversation moves beyond just food storage to examine comprehensive preparedness strategies including backup power options (from diesel generators to using electric vehicles as home batteries), medical supplies (statistically more likely to be needed than weapons), and the importance of knowledge alongside equipment. As newer homes are being built with larger pantries and preparedness communities flourish online, it's clear the cultural shift is permanent.

Whether you're new to preparedness or a seasoned veteran, this episode offers valuable perspective on building capability without extremism. Because when uncertainty strikes—whether a three-day power outage or something more profound—those who have taken steps toward self-reliance will face it with confidence rather than fear. Ready to start or enhance your preparedness journey? This conversation shows exactly why there's never been a better time.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back everybody.
This is Eric and Matt and thisis Life, liberty and the Pursuit
, your beacon of freedom and theAmerican way of life.
Tune in every Monday for a newepisode as we dive into the
world of liberty and what makesour country great.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
All right boys and girls, welcome back.
This is Eric and Matt here withLife, liberty and the Pursuit.
Your home for all things.
Freedom in a world gone mad.
Baby, here we are.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
And today we will definitely be talking about a
subject that is good for theworld gone mad.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I think so.
I think so, or maybe it'swhat's making us go mad, who
knows?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
This is true.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
We're going to be talking a little bit about the
mindset of the prepper.
What puts a person in themindset of preparedness, the
prepper mindset.
When we say prepper, what arewe really referring to?
When we say prepper, defineprepper, matt, what do you think
a prepper is?

Speaker 3 (00:48):
And I think prepper is relative, to like when you
said hey, how do I defineprepper?
I define prepper as somebodythat is prepared, they go out of
their way to just be a littlebit more knowledgeable in case a
disaster happens.
Maybe they have some extrasupply of food, water, maybe
they're taking extra precautionson their everyday life, so that

(01:11):
to me, that's what a prepper isSure, someone that's going the
extra mile to understand the.
You know the current situation,both with, like, the government
and civil unrest, and they knowwhere to go, where not to go,
stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
I think that the way I would define prepper in a
nutshell is very similar to theway you define it.
I would say to, really, I woulduse your description and then
just add on, perhaps, that aprepper is someone who doesn't
want to rely on someone else fortheir safety and security.

(01:47):
And there will be such a goodadd-on yeah so at the end of the
day, okay, are there goodintention people out there all
around the world?
Of course there are.
There's some bad people andthere's good people, and that's
what makes us all unique is thatsome of us are a little bit of
both.
That's fine, whatever.
But the prepper mindset Ibelieve it really gets down to
the kind of person who justwants to be self-sufficient

(02:08):
Self-sufficiency in yoursecurity, self-sufficient in
your protecting your belongings,your property, you know, having
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Speaker 2 (04:00):
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time.
As they said in the ad, they're25 years.
But the other important thingthat I think that it doesn't get
talked about enough aboutfreeze-dried food is that
freeze-dried food does maintainall of its nutritional value as

(04:26):
well.
When you process food, like ifI take I don't know, I want to
pressure can some food orsomething which is fine,
pressure canning is a legitimatestrategy and it has its place.
But I also am going to degradethat food a little bit when I
cook it down like that.
All right, when you cook foodyou degrade the quality and the
nutritional value of that foodby virtue of cooking.
When you freeze dry it, itloses nothing.

(04:49):
You reconstitute it and boom,you're there.
Especially with something likeeggs.
I mean, many of you have hadfreeze dried eggs and probably
didn't even know it If you everserved in the military or ate at
a military mess hall or apolice mess hall or even in a
lot of school cafeterias.
They use freeze-dried eggsbecause they keep for a long
time.
They literally just take thisegg powder and they put it in

(05:12):
water and they reconstitute itand boom you got scrambled eggs.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
You just see them moving it around on the top of
the little flat top with hotwater and then they get all
fluffy.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Throw some Tabasco sauce on that.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
mother and man, you got a meal and it ain't bad for
the longest time I didn't know.
But you can freeze, dry rawmeat Like they will actually put
like raw steaks.
Like you go into like Costco orwhatever and you're buying like
these big bulk um containers oflike ribeyes.
People are freeze, drying thoseraw and then like you have to

(05:43):
label them as raw because youstill have all this stuff.
But like it blew me away, I hadno idea that that was a thing.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Isn't that wild.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
So yeah, obviously, if you're going to freeze dry a
raw steak, you got to make surethat you label it's raw, because
when you, when you thaw it backout, it's going to happen.
When you reconstitute, it'sstill going to be raw.
You cook it, but in that wildthat it just puts the food into
a homeostasis, in a way, like itjust stops it.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Since we're on the subject and I'm not gonna like
stay too long on the subject,but with freeze drying, I think
that opened up for a lot ofpeople to get into the whole
prepping mentality.
Because you can find that therewere a really hot commodity.
What three years ago, fouryears ago, like you, they could
not keep them in.
They were a really hotcommodity.
What three years ago, fouryears ago, they couldn't keep
them in stock.
You'd call up I think it wasHarvest Right, harvest Right.

(06:31):
You'd call them up and like, ohman, we got a three-month,
four-month backlog on machines.
These are like $5,000, $10,000machines.
Right, you're talking about theactual machines.
Yeah, like the actualfreeze-drying machines.
They are nice.
Yeah, they're like about 5 000you know the larger ones are 10
000 and they're like, oh, wecan't keep them in stock.
We have a six month wait list.
Well, you know, rick, rick ward, he bought one.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, I mean they're, and he loves it.
He's always making stuff andhe's always giving me like
freeze, dried skittles and allkind of treats and things.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Well, that's I was gonna say, that's how a lot of
people got started and you'llsee it.
You see, you can actually findfor the viewers.
You go on facebook marketplace.
You can find people sellingthese machines because they they
got them to start making.
Can't like businesses, likefreeze-dried candy businesses.
Yeah, they didn't realize ittakes 24 hours per batch because
it's a freeze drawings, butthere's a lot of profit in that
because you can buy bulkskittles and sell a little pack

(07:21):
of skittles for 10 bucks andpeople buy them.
So there's people that do that.
Like the wrestling tournamentsyou go to, like you'll see a
little booth set up becausethey're a hundred percent sugar.
Like, the wrestlers need thatfor energy, but they they are
now.
They're selling them.
So you can go on Facebookmarketplace and get a used
freeze dry machine for like halfthe price.
So if you're, if you'reinterested to get into the, the

(07:43):
whole freeze drying thing, trythat out.
I think you'll be surprised.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, it's funny that I'm still working on my kind of
little field kitchen I call ita field kitchen, but basically.
So I have a side room in mygarage and we went through and
did a bunch of restoration on itredid the walls, redid the
ceiling, put some bright lightsin there.
Right now I just haven'treplaced the counters yet, but I

(08:11):
got to put counters in and afew shelves.
But I put a stove out there, agas stove, and I'm going to put
an extra refrigerator out thereand my plan was to put my
dehumidifier out there I'm sorry, my dehydrator is what I meant
to say, my meat dehydrator andbe able to do jerky and have a
freeze-dry machine and dofreeze-dried food and basically
just use this sort of wing on mygarage as sort of a food
preparation area and foodstorage, kind of like a pantry,

(08:34):
so to speak.
And that way you're not, youknow if you're going to run a
big batch of pressure-cannedfood.
You know you're not stinking upthe house, yeah, or you're
processing a deer.
Yeah, you're processing a hog ora deer, have a separate place
to do that.
That's just me talking here.
I meant it'd be practical foreverybody.
Let's get back to the mentalitybecause, yeah, we can talk all
day about the things you can buyto prep.

(08:55):
That's not really what I wanttoday's show to be about.
I really want it to be moreabout what puts someone in the
mentality of wanting to prep inthe way that they do.
I mean, has society woken up toall of the crazy things that go
on in the world?
Because it seems that Americais such.
Americans seem to have theirheads in the sand so much, and

(09:16):
whether it is the, you know, therest of the world points their
finger at us and they scrutinizeus because of the way we live
our lifestyle.
I mean, I get it.
We're a have-it-now lifestyle,right?
Americans are have-it-nowpeople, you know.
We want to.
Oh, we don't want to save upand do that.
We'll put it on our credit cardand have it now.
Or oh, we want to order onAmazon, have it tomorrow.
We're a have-it-now society,we're an instant gratification

(09:39):
society, and we used to notalways be that way.
Traditionally, way back in theday, people were much more
accountable to their ownindividual survival as a family.
They were required to storefood, they were required to
preserve their own food, theywere required to grow and
harvest their own food, hunttheir own game.

(10:00):
You know.
They were much more vested inthe actual survival of the
family as a family and we'velost track of that now and I
think that's interesting, matt,to see that that mentality is
kind of coming back.
It's just coming back in a waythat's much more commercialized
than what it was in years past.
You know, in years past if youwere going to the hardware store

(10:22):
, your local grocery store, topick up some supplies, yeah,
you'd pick up your pressurecanning jars and your lids and
all of your crap you need to dopressure canning.
That was just a normal part ofyour order, was to get the
normal things that you wouldneed to preserve your food and
all.
And people still do that.
I mean you can go to thegrocery store and go to the
canning aisle, especially in thesouth, mostly in the south.

(10:45):
I'm not saying that the grocerystores up north don't have it,
but any grocery store in thesouth, boys and girls, that you
go to, is going to have acanning area and it's got all
the different ball jars, alljars and things and so but there
was a point y'all that that wasvery normal mainstay, uh type
of activity for average familyand it would be a family event,

(11:05):
everyone would.
You know the kids would bechucking the corn and you know
mom would be boiling the cornand putting it in the jar and
they'd be preserving and makingtheir food together.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
It was a.
It was a huge ordeal and manytimes it was like a multi-day
ordeal, especially, like youknow I'll use like in.
Especially, like you know I'lluse like in.
For example, in Italy they dolike the whole tomato harvest.
They would have to like jar allthat tomato sauce because,
guess what, no refrigerationTomatoes need to get harvested.
What you didn't sell, you hadto do something with.

(11:35):
You couldn't just let them rot.
So a lot of it came out of justthe necessity to not have
anything go to waste.
Yeah, and that even to this day, that's what it's used for.
So you're like, hey, thinkabout what's in your
refrigerator right now.
You know leftovers things.
You you know you're not goingto throw it away, so instead,

(11:56):
now you're just I think that wasprobably the first form of meal
prepping You're like, hey,you're going to meal prep for
the prep for the.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, crack open a jar and you got some sauce.
I mean, dude, I've been makingso much freaking pasta sauce,
it's not even funny.
My girlfriend's vegetarian andshe loves pasta sauce and I make
it with fresh roman tomato niceall like like a little italian
grandma on there, just really,and I love to cook, so for me
I'm always making lots of sauceand stuff and there's nothing

(12:23):
better than homemade sauce.
It's just so great.
But you know, I'm thinking theentire time I'm making the sauce
.
I'm like man, I could pressure,can this sauce and just have a
whole bunch.
I could make a huge batch.
Bessie, she likes to have itfresh and there is something
like in you know, down in Brazilthey eat hot dogs a heck of a

(12:44):
lot different than we do.
Are you familiar with the wayBrazilians eat hot dogs?
Look, it's, it's, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna lie, it was kind
of strange at first.
But like they'll use like a bigold sub roll and they'll put
the hot dog on it and in hercase, of vegetarian hot dog, but
a hot dog, Okay, but look, okay, it's a hot dog.
But then they'll put like pastasauce on it, Like like you

(13:05):
would on like spaghetti.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
It's a sauce, right.
They put pasta sauce on it andthey put like the uh, sometimes
I'll put ketchup on there andthey put peas, you know, like
canned peas and canned corn, andthey put those.
You know those little, uh,potato crispy things.
You get a little potato sticks.
They put like potato sticks onthere and that's how they eat
their hot dogs.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Brazilians chime in.
Is that a thing I'm curious?

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Bro, it's a thing.
And look, she puts ketchup onpizza.
Well, okay, I mean like, and atfirst I thought that was such a
strange thing, but then I triedit.
I was like, okay, like it ain'tso bad, I'll put ketchup on
eggs.
Do you all put ketchup on pizza?
Let us know down in the commentsection.
You know, it's just wild to seethat there's so many different
ways of doing things and there'sso many different viewpoints,

(13:50):
and that's one of theinteresting things about food in
general.
It's like there's so manydifferent ways to skin a cat, so
to speak.
Maybe not literally, but inprepping it's kind of like that,
like everyone has their ownversion of how they do it, their
mentality and getting into thementality of it.
Uh, I know we kind of discussedsome things about the past and

(14:10):
why people have done it in thepast, but all right, I mentioned
before uh, getting back to myoriginal thought was that we, um
, you know, have made preppingsuch this like commercialized
thing now, versus in the past.
It was just a way of life, life,it was just kind of part of the
way you would do things.
It wasn't super commercialized,it was just the way things were
.
And now it seems that there'sthis entire industry that's

(14:32):
built around.
Oh yeah, you see these fancycampers that are um, I noticed I
saw some that were they'retouted as like these bug out
campers that have all the foodstorage and you know, you can
hook it up and then bug out andleave.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
I mean that's smart, I suppose, like a bougie
glamping bug out thing where ahigh-end trailer like off-road
wheels I went down the rabbithole in that like a couple years
ago and there's like it is anindustry, because they were like
oh, these have independentsuspension and they're made for
road tires.
Bro, that's a 20,000-poundcamper.

(15:08):
How off-road are you going totake a 27-foot 20,000-pound
camper?
You can call it off-road allyou want, you ain't going
off-road with that thing.
And then come to find out youcan't have a big enough truck.
You can, you can, but I meanyou're pulling 20,000 pounds dry
.
And then they're like oh, it'sgot a 50-pound tank, so you're

(15:31):
going to take 20,000 pounds andadd water, add gear, like man.
It's a little unrealistic, it isan industry and I think what
started it was the whole fauxfarm movement.
So when you look on socialmedia, you, all of these people
with like faux farms, you walkin.

(15:52):
They're they're very pretty andthey look nice and they're
they're basically people thatplay farmer.
They have, they, they buy afarm, but they're not actually
running the farm.
They're it's a house but itlooks like a farm and but they
post on social media like theyhave all the little like the
pastures and the farmhouse andit's like live, laugh, love,
like artwork all inside.
You know, good point.
People kind of get, you know,enamorated with that and they go

(16:15):
oh you know, we're gonna startcanning, we're gonna start doing
all this stuff by all means.
If that is what made you havethe mentality to start doing it,
that's fine, fine.
But again, that's part of thatindustry of like social media
influencers with that type ofcontent.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
And if that's what it takes to put someone in the
mentality, then I say it's apositive thing.
You know someone who, let'sjust say, is in suburbia, you
know, works a nine to five, hasan average job.
Maybe they live in a, you know,in a neighborhood and they have
a lot of neighbors.
They don't have a large yard,they can't really have chickens,
they can't really have a hugegarden, maybe a small garden

(16:55):
like an herb garden.
Maybe they're even an apartmentdweller and they can only have,
let's say, you know, maybe anherb garden on the balcony or
something.
You know, you're limited incertain situations.
You know what you're seeing is,if you look at um, at MPS, and
look at some of the houselistings, especially for new
homes, a lot of newer homes arebeing built with rather large

(17:16):
pantries, large walk-in pantries.
Now, I'm not going to say thatwasn't always a thing before,
because it was, but it seemslike not that it's a focal point
, but it is certainly somethingthat the builders keep in mind.
They're like, wow, like peopleare storing a lot more food and
water, and you notice that thesenewer houses are being built
with considerably largerpantries.

(17:37):
And uh, you know cause theyfigured people are going to want
to store some food and I thinkthat it's sensible for someone
to consider prepping out thegate.
And they think, well, food andwater are going to be the first.
You know things that I'm goingto consider here because
logically that makes sense.
I mean, you can't survivewithout food and water.
You have to eat, you have todrink and all that sort of thing

(18:00):
, and I think that's alwaysgoing to be the first place that
someone looks to.
You know, they may not considerfirearms and protection, they
may not consider medical, theymay not consider those things.
They may not consider batterybackups or generators or those
sorts of things.
They may just simply consider,hey, got to have food, got to
have water.
And they thinking, okay, if thepower goes down, I can suffer

(18:23):
without the AC and heat, I cansuffer without running water,
whatever that mentality ofpeople.
They're kind of thinking, okay,well, maybe things will be back
to normal within a week I'llhave plenty of food and water.
Yeah, it'll be a littleuncomfortable but we'll survive.
I think that's where mostpeople that that are prepping
that kind of fall into thatscenario.

(18:43):
They're not really worriedabout power backup.
They may not even be gun owners, they may not have a way to
protect themselves.
They need to have a way toprotect themselves.
But I think that the preppingindustry, the commercialization
of prepping it, is a gatewaydrug to that overall greater
prepping mentality of you know,hey, I have all this stuff.

(19:06):
I have to protect myself.
I need a firearm.
You know I need a pistol,shotgun, whatever.
I'm obviously a gun guy y'all.
So if you have any questionsabout guns, my channel has a
wealth of information for youguys.
If you want to learn more aboutfirearms, I'm a great resource
for that.
But firearms are not theend-all do-all.
Look, yeah, firearms make holesin things right, but we also

(19:28):
have to plug holes, we have tofix holes, we have to medical
supply.
So you have a much greaterchance of getting hurt than you
do having to use a firearm toprotect yourself.
That's just the reality.
We all want to pretend that theworld is like John Wick and
there's an assassin around everycorner, but the truth of the
matter is there's a fall or aslip, or you broke your arm or

(19:51):
you did.
That is much greater reality.
Or you got hit in your car andnow someone's got a bad wound
Like.
The likelihood of you beingwounded in some everyday tragedy
is much greater circumstancethat could happen than you need
to protect yourself.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
You flipped your side by side and your passenger went
flying.
You know like those are.
Those are more realisticscenarios.
On then you know someone tryingto break in and steal your
stuff, that your, your food andwater and a and a world in
scenario.
That's like literally the word,the, the last thing, that's.
Probably there's a lot of waysto get hurt.
Yeah, um, and I would say thatyou know, you are absolutely

(20:29):
correct.
Most people that are in thatpreparedness mentality probably
aren't firearms people.
We like to believe that becauselike that they are, because
that's our own bias, becausethat's because we're firearms
people.
Everybody should have a gun ormore than one gun.
But realistically, the factsdon't lie.
Most people in the US don'thave firearms and they're not

(20:52):
carrying them regularly, andthat's okay.
You can have plenty of food andresources because I think Eric,
you nailed it Most scenariosare going to be short term.
You know we like, we like wehave this.
You know delusion of grandeur,that it's going to be like a
world ending event, doomsday,that we're going to be locked in

(21:13):
our bunker for years and weneed enough supplies to last a
year.
But more likely than not, it'sgoing to be short term three to
five days, maybe a week.
Some events have been a littlebit longer, but usually the
infrastructure will be able toget corrected.
But the way that the mentalityof the people, I would probably

(21:37):
say, within the last four yearslast four to five years has been
drastically different than whatit was prior to that.
But prior to that, peopleweren't interested in, you know,
having extra food, extra wateror even being more knowledgeable
on learning about how to filterwater or food.
Now you can, like I haveconversations with people right

(21:59):
now and they're veryknowledgeable Almost like it
surprises me.
I'm like, wow, you actuallyknow what you're talking about.
That's awesome.
It's not necessarily withpeople right now and they're
very, uh, knowledgeable.
Almost like it surprises me.
I'm like, wow, you actuallyknow what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
That's awesome, it's not necessarily that people
weren't into it even five yearsago.
It's just that those peoplewere kind of considered on the
fringe of society and especiallythere was a huge prepper
movement in the 80s and 90s andthere would be seminars.
And I'm talking like imaginegoing to a gun show.
You know you've been to a gunshow before.
Oh yeah, imagine going to a gunshow, you know you've been to a
gun show before.
Oh yeah, imagine going to a gunshow, but the entire show is

(22:29):
just prepping and alllike-minded people get together
and they discuss you knowprepping and doomsday and all
the end of the world and andthat's their thing, like they
really think that you know,things are going to go so
haywire that you're going tohave to literally prepare for
the worst absolute case.
That's not a bad thing to do, Imean.
But at the time a lot of peoplein society were kind of like

(22:50):
well, these preparedness peopleare a little kind of out of
their mind.
You know, that was just theview they had of them, but it
wasn't true.
It just meant that they justreally were passionate about
being, you know, capable, andthere's nothing wrong with that
being good with firearms beingyou know capable, and there's
nothing wrong with that beinggood with firearms.
Being you know good with medical, at least knowing some good
basic medical knowledge andbeing able to, you know, do

(23:11):
basic medical stuff on your own,you know, knowing which plants
are toxic and what isn't.
You know, knowing how to growyour own food, knowing how to
store your own food, having alittle bit of a sensibility
about water storage, waterpurification, storing your own
food.
All of those things are justpart of being a well-rounded
person who is capable, and Ithink it's funny how people will
always look at the governmentand they say, oh well, the

(23:35):
government is going to beresponsible for my safety and if
something bad happens, I'mgoing to turn the radio on and
listen to whatever thegovernment tells me to do.
Nah, I'm going to turn the radioon and listen to whatever the
government tells me to do.
Nah, well, if you are trustingthe government with that, how
hard is it to trust yourselfwith it?
Because the government iscomprised of people.
You're a person, correct?
Why are you going to sit thereand place your fate in the hands

(23:59):
of someone you don't even know?
And you're going to willinglyplace your fate in that person
and go.
Well, they're always going toknow what to do and I don't have
to worry about it becausethey're going to tell me what to
do Versus.
Well, why don't you just knowwhat to do?
Why don't you just beat them tothe punch and not be a
liability on their system andnot be reliant on their system?
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Speaker 3 (25:47):
So if we're looking at like the mentality, you know,
one of the things that I feelreally swayed the general public
in changing their mentality andbeing okay with prepping and
getting prepared and learningall these, all these new
techniques that they didn't knowbefore, uh really was, uh, the

(26:09):
like movies.
So if you start looking at likedifferent, I know there's one
in particular that came outrecently I don't know if you've
seen it.
It's called homestead, so it'suh, the one of the main
characters is the guy that playsbuck in band of brothers.
Um, so he's like the.
He's like a landowner and heowns a huge piece of property

(26:32):
and he's super prepared.
He was preparing for an eventand it's like in the middle,
like the you know, he hired abunch of like sf dudes to like
be his personal security if theyever had to like enact and like
create and block off theproperty.
Um, and it and it was put outby uh, what is it?

(26:52):
Angel studios, which is like achristian studio that creates
like christiany type stuff.
But this particular movie wasactually really good.
Um, but like those mainstreammovies, they get out there and
people watching oh, this is, youknow, it's kind of interesting,
it's normal, and then alsoseeing, like some other stuff.

(27:14):
There was another one, was it asound of freedom?
Which was about like a truestory about sex trafficking, how
, like you know, they went to Ithink it was Colombia and they
like rescued all of these girlsthat were being like trafficked
across the world internationally.
So when people start looking atall this stuff, like that
danger is real, like it's nolonger like a fictitious you

(27:37):
know danger, like these types ofthings happen and I know like
sex trafficking has nothing todo with um prepping, but it's
just the mentality like hey, hey, there's evil out there.
Yeah.
And like it can strike at anytime.
Yeah Now, be it sex traffickingor you know terroristic, you
know events that causeinfrastructure to go down, or

(27:58):
just you know Natural disasters,disasters, so it happens, but
you have to be prepared and thatkind of plants those seeds into
people's brains like man.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
I really should be a little bit more prepared it is
true, once something becomesmainstream enough for hollywood
to pick it up, then you know,okay, now, granted, the studio
that produced this movie thehomestead movie was was
certainly, you know, moreprobably right wing and and
christian sort.
You could say that, yeah, andthat's okay, but once Hollywood

(28:28):
picks up on it, that theeyeballs really start to oh,
okay, well, what is this?
And I mean, look at, I meanagain, I hate to bring up John
Wick, but it's crazy, true aboutJohn Wick, like I'm not going
to say that people didn't knowwhat a staccato was, because
they did, but like, like, I mean, how many people went and
bought staccatos because theywatched john wick use them?

(28:49):
Yeah, or bought terran tactical.
Now, look, I know terran butler, he's a really good guy, he's
smart as hell and he's very goodand very knowledgeable what he
does.
So obviously he's very wellequipped to train john wick.
Uh, but it's just interestinghow these things happen.
Like you know, even the scenein the movie where you know

(29:09):
we're going to go in and it'slike he's going to some fine,
you know establishment wherehe's going to pick out his guns,
and you know, all right, well,help me out.
What do you have, winston, youknow, and then they're going to
like go through and get all therandom you know tools of his
trade and people appeal to that.
People love the idea of ahidden room in your house full

(29:29):
of crap.
There's something about that inour mentality as Americans that
it triggers us to think, well,damn, I want a hidden room full
of guns and gold and gold coinswith skulls on them.
And people have that mentalityand there's nothing wrong with
that.
That room can be a real room.
It can be a real room that youcan own.
You can have a hidden room inyour house with some firearms

(29:52):
and supplies and there's nothingwrong with that?

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Very, very similar to where we're sitting at right
now.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
And there's nothing wrong with having you know a
stash of stuff, and I thinkthere's just something brilliant
about that.
It's ingrained in Americanculture.
It's ingrained in our mentalityas Americans that preparedness
is just as much a part of beingAmerican as breathing air, Like
it's just it's part of who weare.
It's just only recently, Ithink, that people have began to

(30:21):
fully understand and appreciatewhat a lot of those people were
doing in the nins, 80s and 90swith the prepping movement.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah, and now I remember where I was going at
with that movie Sound of Freedomwhen that movie came out.
That's what kind of sparkedthat whole air tag movement of
people utilizing air tags totrack people, because that's
when they're like, oh, we'regoing to Disney, I'm gonna put
an air tag in my child's shoe sothat way I can always kind of

(30:51):
track and know where my kid isat.
That I mean, think about that.
That's awesome and having thatability to be able, like to
track and know where your childor your loved one is.
Maybe you have somebody withyou know, a family member with
Alzheimer's or dementia, and youput an air tag around their
neck like dude, I can tell yousomeone with alzheimer's or
dementia, they're going to walkoff on you in a heartbeat, like

(31:12):
you it's.
It is a second job keeping upwith them.
So to be able to have thattechnology where you can keep up
with them and know wherethey're at, that's awesome it's
also great to have them on yourdogs.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yes, Yep.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
So I mean just having that technology and those.
The movies are kind of what'ssparking that movement and
that's great.
Like, if you can get a form ofentertainment but also elicit,
you know, positive response inpeople, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, I agree.
You know, it's just crazy whenyou look at the way that the
mentality of the prepper haschanged over the years and again
it has gotten much morecommercial.
I mean again even our sponsor.
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Speaker 3 (32:01):
It's a bucket.
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Speaker 2 (32:08):
And look it does appeal.
And again, not to beat a deadhorse, but it appeals to the way
that Americans are as peopleand their mentality is like
they're a habit now instantgratification.
So yeah, if you don't want tohave a pantry stocked with dry
goods, want to have a pantrystocked with dry goods and say

(32:31):
you want to have rice and staplefood like rice and beans and
dried goods that you you'regoing to have to prepare them.
There are ways that you can justturn a key and have the
solution and and it's never beenmore available in today's
society than it ever- has beenwhereby in in previous years, it
would be considerably difficultfor you to have a commercial
option to just store 90 days offood with the turn of a key and

(32:52):
literally just swipe your cardand go back to playing golf or
playing Minecraft or whateverthe hell.
You're doing Everything'scalculated.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
It's brilliant.
You can say, oh, we need 2000calories a day per person.
Right, you have five people.
Now you don't have to gothrough the logistics of
managing each individual meal.
Yes, you could do it if you hadtime.
But, like you said, we areinstant gratification, and I'm
guilty of this too.
I order off Amazon.
I'm not the kind of guy that'sgoing to not order off Amazon.

(33:22):
I love Amazon, I order it.
I use same day.
So if I can get it the same day, I filter it by oh, same day
delivery.
I want that one Boom have itnow.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Why not have it?

Speaker 3 (33:33):
now, if we can do it, we can do it.
I am not a boycott Amazon kindof guy.
So it's like you look atpreparing all of those meals,
you have to have a five-gallonbucket full of dried beans.
Well, how long is that going tolast you?
How do you break that out?
How do you multiply that byfive?
By serving size yeah, got tohave water to boil it, prepare

(33:54):
it.
But I mean, think about howmuch space that takes up if
you're going to do canning.
Canning is a lot of space andit's heavy.
You better have some shelves,some heavy duty shelves, to hold
up all that weight.
A lot of space.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
And you actually have to use the stuff.
The problem is, if you let's,let's talk about canning for a
second.
Ok, pressure canning, cannedfood All right, canned food is
sort of the middle of the line,right.
Dry, dried food that isproperly stored, like dry beans
and rice and things like that.

(34:28):
Staples can last a really longtime.
If they're well stored and inthe proper storage conditions,
canned food will last aconsiderably long time.
But there is a shelf life.
Like canned goods can only lastso long they begin to break
down.
You have a risk of botulism,etc.
Now let's look at pressure canstuff like the stuff in the
glass jars, like your ball jarswith your shredded chicken and

(34:48):
beef and pork or whatever.
I don't.
I don't think people pressurecan pork, but whatever meat
you're going to pressure can,okay, that's fine too, but you
have to use it.
It's not just going to sit onthat shelf forever and you know,
I don't know, 15 years from nowI decide I want some shredded
chicken from 15 years ago.
Am I really going to riskcracking open that jar after 15

(35:09):
years?
Will it keep 15 years?
Some people say it could.
Do you want to risk that?
I don't.
Does that lid have a littlecorrosion on it.
You're kind of rolling the dicethere.
So now, if you pressure cansomething and use it within the
first few years, it's going tostill taste real fresh, it's
going to be good and maybe evenwithin the first five years it's

(35:31):
still going to taste just asfresh.
But you have to use it.
So the thing is it's likeyou're going to pressure can but
then you're going to use thatfood, okay.
Well, that requires you, ifyou're trying to keep a stock of
food, to continue pressurecanning.
So you have to get into theregimen of okay, I'm using my
shredded chicken first in, firstout.

(35:51):
Right, all right, the oldestchicken gets used first and then
we put the new chicken in.
So when people have a pantrythey have a rotation, a storage
rotation First in, first out,just like a grocery store.
If you go to your local grocerystore especially if it's a busy
grocery store that generallysells a decent amount of stuff
on a regular basis and you lookat the things that are stacked

(36:14):
on the shelf and you pullsomething off and look at the
date, the date is going to becloser on the item that's
furthest out on the shelf If youlook at the one way behind it
might have a date.
That's a few through threemonths or maybe six months down
the road from the date of theone up front.
First in, first out.
That's because the old productgoes out, the newest product

(36:35):
goes in.
So when they're stocking theyput the new stuff in the back so
that they can get all the oldstuff out.
That's how your pantry is.
When you're doing some sort ofprepping, especially when you're
using canned food, canned foodis going to be the exact same
way first in, first out.
And once you just get yourselfinto that basic mentality which
really Matt even beyond prepping, this is not even a prepping

(36:58):
thing.
This is just common sense foranyone who would have just a
pantry in their home, even ifyou just have some basic
cabinets in your kitchen.
You don't have a walk-in pantrywith a whole bunch of storage
capability, but you just have abasic pantry.
Well, you're gonna eat whateverfood is, the oldest first and
then the.
I mean, that's just simple yeah, common sense.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
That's typically how you do it with leftovers.
You open, you open therefrigerator.
I'm always like, oh, what did Ieat?
What's what's the oldest mealin the refrigerator'll eat that
first, cause I don't want it togo bad.
And then you kind of work thesame thing.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
You work, your, you work your way all the way to the
one that you just had lastnight, you know or if you're
anything like me, I look atleftovers and I go I don't want
that, I'm gonna feed it the dog,I I'm.
You know there are very fewfeuds foods that I will actually
go.
Oh my God, I can't wait to havethose leftovers, For one is
pasta.
Pasta is always better the nextday, Spaghetti is always better

(37:51):
the next day.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
It's always better.
I'm a pizza the next day Kindof guy like pizza I'll do pizza
the next day, see the next dayit tastes better pizza after
maybe two or three days.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
You know, look, I know people that will take pizza
and leave that shit on thecounter and that I'm I'm serious
.
They will leave it on thecounter and eat on it for two or
three days, even after, withoutit being refrigerated.
It's like you're brave yeah youknow, you start looking and
thinking I've got a little hair,bro.
No man, that's gross.

(38:23):
Like some people don't care.
But not me, not this guy yeahyou know we I know this is gonna
sound cringe to some people,but we like to go get those
costco cheese pizzas bro, do notsleep on costco cheap.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
I just ate it yesterday, dude, it's so good
those suckers are not bad man.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
I mean, they really aren't, and you know who, who
can, who can not.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Like a dollar 50 costco hot dog, now, granted,
it's really not that great foryou, but damn, if you're eating
on a budget, it's cheap dudethat's like you, you, you, just
you, just like you just said, mylunch yesterday, my lunch
yesterday was a costco hot dogcombo, because you get the drink
in the hot dog for a dollar 50.
And then we bought a wholepizza, half cheese, half

(39:06):
pepperoni.
Get out of here.
Yeah, I can't go wrong, man.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
I mean there's a lot of great deals out there.
I guess that does bring up agood point about Costco.
You know buying in bulk isalways going to be a great way
to save money long term, butyou've also got to be able to
store in bulk properly, and you,you know, not every food
container is made uh, equal.
Okay, there are food gradecontainers, so you have to make

(39:30):
sure that you have the.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
the right plastic composition is actually intended
for storing food yeah, youdon't want to leach that bpa
into your food, man got to bebph free and all that.

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Now that's a whole otherconversation.
Holy crap, we don't want to getinto that today.
When we look at fractionalbanking and oh my God, don't get

(41:31):
me started on that.
I'm not an economist, but Ihave been diving hard into that
subject and it's not pretty.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Well, you have to almost do a little bit of
research, especially with theway the economy is now.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
You have to diversify your assets which is special
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people that are living in thissociety now.
Because so many people areliving paycheck to paycheck,
life is hard for a lot of folks.
Jobs have been kind of hard todeal with.
I mean, there's been lots oflayoffs, lots of people, lots of
companies have been cuttingback, and I get that.

(42:03):
I understand that people aregetting less hours and even just
going the simple act of goingto the grocery store and buying
a week's worth of groceries isso much harder for the average
person now than it was eventhree or four years ago.
So I get that.
So some people are so ingrainedin the day-to-day survival that
they don't think, oh, I'll geta gold subscription or I'll
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(42:24):
But you can start small andwork your way up, and I think
that's how prepping is too.
When we get back to the subjectof prepping, you can start small
and work your way up.
You don't have to go in fullMonty and spend a whole bunch of
money right out the gate.
We've discussed this in someprevious shows, matt, but I'll
reiterate it here that you canstart small.

(42:44):
Start out with a few packs ofrice here and there a few packs
of beans.
It doesn't have to be anythingcrazy, it could even be a case
of water.
Now I have my views aboutstoring cases of water for long
periods of time because theplastic can leach out in the
water.
But if it's life and death, andyou're going to die if you
don't have water, I think I'drather have water with a little
plastic in it than not.
So bottled water is a cheap andeconomical option.

(43:07):
That is there.
I mean, obviously, rotate itout.
You know, fresh in, first in,first out, but as wouldn't be my
preferred scenario, but it is apotential scenario.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
I think one of the major issues was that you know
it's not good for the water forit to be in heat because, like,
the heat kind of breaks down theplastic well.
So the big problem was peopleleaving water bottles in cars in
the summertime and then, like,it'll cool down and they'll
drink it.
So it's not, you're notdrinking hot water, but you're
drinking water that was hot like100 something degrees at some

(43:38):
point sitting in your car andthat kind of opened up the pores
of the plastic and you knowit's leached into the water.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
I get it and how do you know that the pallet of
water that you picked up off ofthe grocery store wasn't sitting
in the sun at one point?
So it's like you really don'thave any way of knowing if the
quality of that product wascontrolled from the point it was
made to the point it arrivedwell, you don't.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
You're absolutely right and I'll give you an
example of that.
Um, you know, back when I wasrunning ballistic ink, we we
sold body armor.
So we had like pallets of bodyarmor and one shipment came in
and the body armor was soakingwet, like it was on the pallet.
It was palletized but it wassoaking wet.
And I asked the truck driver.
I was like hey, why is all thisarmor wet?

(44:18):
It shouldn't be wet Now.
Granted, it probably didn'tcompromise the integrity of it,
but I'm not taking that chance.
So I had to call up the armorcompany, say, hey, what's going
on?
And then the trucking companysaid, oh, it was sitting outside
of the depot for a couple ofdays in transit, so he just left
it sitting out in the open inthe rain.

(44:39):
So, to your point, you neverknow If that armor would have
arrived dry, I would have neverknown it was sitting out in the
elements.
What did they do about it?
They took it back.
Yeah, I said.
Oh, I bet they were pissed.
Well, it wasn't there if I wasthe trucking companies well, I
bet they were yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I just you know, we refusedthe shipment.
They put it back on the truck,took it out because I mean we're
not selling that stuff, likecome on, man, um, but like again

(45:03):
to your point, you never know,you don't have that chain of
custody, you don't know whathappened with all these
shipments.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
So you know we're on a well here and I tell you so
I've been wanting to get a wholehouse backup generator.
Uh, we'll talk a little bitabout that backup power.
All right, that's something wehaven't really dove into.
In the subject of prepping, Ifeel like when you start getting
into whole house backuppreparation, solar panels,

(45:30):
things like that, which I dohave solar the amount of solar
that I produce here is notenough to run my house at a
one-to-one off the grid, whichkind of sucks because it costs a
lot of money.
I'm not even going to even beginto say how much money I spent
on the solar, but it'sembarrassing to say how much it
was.
It was a lot and I onlyproduced about 65% of my
electricity on site.

(45:50):
So that means that if the gridgoes down, I still have to have
some sort of a backup wholehouse generator to provide
enough power to kick the wellpump on to pump water.
So even despite having all thatsolar, I still don't produce
enough electricity to kick thewell pump on because it requires
a high amperage draw to startup.
A well pump is kind of one ofthose items that it requires a

(46:14):
huge power drop when it firstkicks on and then, once it's on,
boom, you're okay.
But it has a high amperagestartup draw.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Could you use a diesel generator to kick started
on and then?

Speaker 2 (46:22):
so they do make whole house diesel generators that
are very capable.
They're actually very, verygood and, um, they're, they're
not cheap.
I mean, you're, you're talkingfor a good whole house generator
.
That's a diesel generator.
You're probably looking atabout two to twenty five hundred
dollars for a good one, for areal good one, maybe closer to

(46:43):
four grand.
That's a little more capable,you know, maybe a little bit
quieter running, a little bitbetter fuel efficiency in the
long term, little things likethat.
But overall, even the cheaperones will do quite well.
But the, the ones that are likefour to $4,500, are the cat's
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(47:07):
amount of kilowatts hours, youcan just daisy chain them
together, and a lot of theHondas are like that too.
The inverter generators can bedaisy chained.
I have a pair of the inverters.
No, the little Honda inverters,little red ones, and they do
quite well.
They run really quiet.
They run on gas.
Now, you're not going to backup a whole house on the little

(47:27):
inverters, but you can certainlyget your starlink running, keep
your refrigerator running, andI've done that before.
Um and uh, when the power's off, you know I'll use the little
inverter generator and at leastjust back up the refrigerator so
I have cold drinks and keep mystuff from going bad in the
refrigerator.
You know, and the starlinkdoesn't draw a lot of power, so
I like to be able to haveinternet and plus I can charge

(47:48):
cell phones and laptops andthings on the inverter, so at
least keeping yourself informedand keeping your your basic cold
goods from going bad.
Not so bad.
You can power a tv with one ifyou just want to watch some tv
and stream some netflix, yeah, Ithat's.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
most of the people in that situation would need it
purely just to keep therefrigerator and freezer going,
so they don't lose everything inthe refrigerator and freezer
for the short term.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Um man, just for a couple of days.
There's nothing wrong with that.
I mean you, you could probablyget by with five or 10 gallons
of fuel for a couple of days.
I mean they, they sip, meanthey sip fuel.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
They actually do quite well on fuel, the little
hondas, yep so, um, when youmentioned the diesel generators,
that's actually 44 to 500, so4500 and up.
That's a drop in the hasnothing compared to what you
would pay for like a generac.
So, like the, the generac, wehad one price dot, because we

(48:44):
were in an area that lost powerconsistently.
So we were we.
But this is before we move, wemove.
We ended up moving to adifferent area that didn't lose
power so much every time a stormcame through.
We were looking at a generacand I think for like a 12
kilowatt, like a whole house, 12kilowatt, dude, it was like 30
grand 30,000?

Speaker 2 (49:04):
yeah, but 30,000 is a steal compared to what I pay
for solar.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
But it ran off natural gas.
So here's the thing with thosegenerators they're natural gas,
so it's great because it'sinstant.
It has a little switch in there.
As soon as the circuit breaks,it pops on instantly.
So you have almost no loss ofservice.
But you are susceptible toinfrastructure issues.
So what good is it if you knowyou don't have any

(49:30):
infrastructure?
If like-, what if the gas isn'tflowing?
Exactly, there's no gas,there's no generator, you know,
and you would say, oh, it's nota problem during like a storm,
you're right, it's underground.
But what if it's like aearthquake or like or some other
event that's going to cause theearthquake?

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yeah, what if a bomb drops and disrupts the gas line
Exactly, or maybe the gas.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Well, I hate to think that way, but yeah, but you
have to.
Or again, like you said,there's no gas in the lines Like
what good is it?
So a diesel as a backup?
Great, if you're looking forthose types of situations where
you're not worried aboutinfrastructure.
If you're looking for thosetypes of situations where you're
not worried aboutinfrastructure Price-wise $4,500

(50:14):
is still expensive, but notnearly as much as like yeah, not
like a 30K generator.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
One thing I want to mention too, is that you can get
, you can have like these largecontainers of fuel delivered.
One thing I learned just fromyou know, just being around and
knowing how this kind of stuffworks is like when you're
running like heavy equipment ona job site.
You know they require a lot offuel.
You know you don't just havefuel cans in your truck and then

(50:38):
fuel up a giant excavator orsomething right you have a 500
gallon cistern that's brought tothe job site and they take
these chains and hook up andthey pick it up and drop it on
the drop site and then whenthat's empty, you order another
one.
They bring you a fresh one.
Take the empty one, that kindof thing.
You're ordering 500 gallons offuel at a time.
Right, you have a fuel pump andyou know it draws.
You have to have power for thefuel pump, but you know it has a

(50:58):
fuel pump.
You know it draws.
You have to have power for thefuel pump, but you know it has a
fuel pump and, yeah, and youand you pump it and you
basically have your own littlemobile gas station, essentially
when you work on a job site andit's usually sold in like 550
gallons at a time.
It's a big I know y'all seenthem before Big old round
cistern with big welded legswith a pump on top.
So if you had, let's say, adiesel generator on your

(51:19):
property and you wanted to havea substantial amount of fuel on
hand for backup, you could haveone of those cisterns delivered
and have 500 to 550 gallons offuel on hand, and I'm not going
to claim to know what the shelflife for diesel is.
But if you have a diesel truckright, remember what we

(51:40):
discussed first in, first out.
Well, you buy your fuel in the550 gallon cistern and when?
you want to fuel your truck up,you go ahead and use the cistern
.
Okay, you just use your owncistern and then, when it's
empty, you order more, have itswapped out.
If there's a disaster, well,guess what?
You're not, probably not goingto use your truck anyway.

(52:00):
Your truck should be full offuel at all times anyway.
So as long as you make sure yourtruck is full of fuel, whatever
amounts in your cistern boom,you can use that for your
generator Absolutely.
And if you don't use it in yourgenerator, it's not like you're
not going to use it in yourtruck or your tractor or
something.
So again, that comes down to agreater overall view of

(52:21):
preparedness where, yeah, if youhave diesel tractor for your
homestead, if you have a dieseltruck, there's no reason not to
have a diesel generator becausethat fuel, if you buy a 550
gallon cistern of fuel, it's notlike it's going to go to waste.
You're going to use it in yourtractor, you're going to use it
in your truck and you're goingto have it.
Any amount that you have onhand is always going to be fair

(52:42):
game for the generator.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Yeah, and think about I don't drive a diesel, but I
know people that do have dieseltrucks and they're holding quite
a bit of gas.
So if you're filling your truckup with a 550 gallon tank,
you're going to use it.
You're going to use that, causeI mean most trucks like a two,
a 250 diesel.
You're probably holding what?

Speaker 2 (53:02):
30 gallons I, I think my truck holds either 28 or 30
gallons pretty close, which is,you know, it's a decent amount.
You'd be surprised how quickyou can go through some fuel and
uh, you know, and my truck getspretty good mileage.
But overall, I mean, especiallyif you're pulling, if you're
hauling, hauling a boat or acamper or something, yeah, I

(53:23):
mean you're gonna.
I spent four hundred dollars infuel to get to orlando and back
pulling the trailer you got abig camper right, I was a 38
foot, you know class a, um, butyeah, like it was like a few
hundred bucks to get down thereand a few hundred bucks to get
back, and then also Iextrapolated that money between
you're always gonna have like atank of fuel that you you blow
through while you're theretraveling around.

(53:44):
So between going down theretraveling around and coming back
, I spent 400 bucks on fuel butthat's nothing compared to the
money you save by not staying ata resort right, well, and look,
yeah, I mean resorts have their, their perks.
I mean resorts are nice.
I know in the previous episodewe talked about about going to
Disney and that's what Matt andI are referring to as my trip to
Disney last week.
But overall, getting back tothe prepping aspect, diesel

(54:07):
generators are fantastic.
The generacs have their placeand all of them, you know, in
the inverters that use regulargas, have their place, and I
guess it just really all dependson your needs and what you may
expect in the future.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Well, here's another wild one electric vehicles.
Because now I mean, I'm a fanof electric vehicles.
I love standard ice motors.
You cannot talk me out ofhitting that gas pedal and
feeling that rumble and thethroaty growl and just the grit
and that power you feel.
I love it.

(54:40):
But my wife drives a Tesla andthat thing is fast, it's quiet,
it's fast, it can go everywhere.
We've gone on road trips withit.
I know people like oh, youcan't go on, you can go on road
trips, it's got range, brother,like it will go.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
They do have decent range.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
Never had any issues Fast charging, but we also have
the ability.
There's not from Tesla, butthey sell kits where you can
actually turn that into a wholehouse generator.
It'll power your house, and Iknow the electric F-150s come
with that ability by default.

(55:18):
Yeah, you can plug in straight,like they have a house plug.
You can plug in, you can poweryour house.
Well, that's nice, yeah.
So I mean, you're sitting on ahumongous battery.
Why not be able to use it?
Right, that's smart.
And then again, if you have asolar array, you can use the
solar array to charge not youronly existing batteries, but
then your vehicle, so you canreplenish the charge in case

(55:41):
that happens.
So you get an entirely newbattery bank with that vehicle.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Did you get the Tesla home charging kit for your car?

Speaker 3 (55:51):
the fast charger, no.
So here's the thing.
My wife doesn't drive a lot, wedon't need it, we just plug
into the regular one.
But we live right across fromlike literally one minute across
the street is a bank ofsuperchargers.
So when we go on a road trip wego over there, we top it off,
boom.
Now I mean to install a 220level two charging station dude

(56:15):
a couple hundred bucks, man isnothing.
You go to Home Depot, buy it,run it.
You don't need to be a rocketscientist to be able to do it.
Um, and then boom, you're good.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
But I mean electric vehicles have their liabilities
and their benefits and I thinkthat the benefits outweigh the
liabilities.
They're definitely cheaper tomaintain.
You don't have all themechanical problems that can go
wrong.
I mean you have brakes andthings like any normal car.
But overall, unless the batterycraps out, there's really not a
whole lot that can go wrongwith them.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Covered by warranty for eight years.
Yeah, you have an eight yearwarranty on the battery.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yeah, so that's a point of consideration is to
consider electric vehicles.
You know, again, getting backto the sort of mentality of
prepping, you know, and it is sowild to me how it really has
become an industry and how a lotof people are really, you know,
diving deep into it and it'srefreshing to see, because I

(57:09):
think people are really wakingup to the, the way things are
going in the world and how scarythings are.
And, yeah, there's a lot ofuncertainty in the world we live
in, like we, we don't know whattomorrow could bring, we don't
know what wars could be aroundthe corner, scarcity could be
around the corner, and those areall scary things to think about
and I think that people arecorrect to do the right thing

(57:33):
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Anyway, I think we coveredthings pretty well and I really
wanted this to be more about,you know, kind of the culture of
preparedness.
You know I think that's what Ireally want to discuss that I
know we discussed some gear andsome things and some ideas
behind you know prepping, but Ithink it's just important to
realize that you have to putyourself in the mentality of not

(01:00:20):
being complacent and alwaysmaking sure that you're thinking
a step ahead.
As long as you do those basicthings, you're probably going to
be okay.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Absolutely, and I think that you know the
conversation we had was great.
It was less on.
You need to buy this, this,this, and you know you need to
know this, this and this, butit's more of the, the, the
culture and the community, andyou know the movement of
everybody being comfortable with, being prepared because it's no

(01:00:50):
longer a fringe thing, it isnow normal.
I agree, it's a normal thing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
You know, and it's funny too, that we could even
draw the same conclusion aboutgun ownership.
You know, gun owners peoplehave become much more accepting
of the idea of owning firearmsnow than they were 10 or 20
years ago, especially, you know,2020 and on, people had a
completely different mentalityof, you know, the concept of
owning firearms forself-protection and you know

(01:01:15):
we've seen more states becomeconstitutional carry 29.
Right, we have 29 states thatare constitutional carry now.
I think it might even be 30 now.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Well, North Carolina is voting on it very soon yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
So we have more states that are constitutional
carry.
Now we have, you know, way morepeople who are becoming armed.
You know much more females aredeciding to arm themselves.
So I think that's all a step inthe right direction.
That shows that society ispivoting on the issue, and so
it's really healthy to see that,in addition to people being
more well-prepared.
So when you take the completeaxiom of preparedness in its

(01:01:54):
entirety and look at it fromokay, well, I've got to be able
to protect myself with a firearm, but also eat where do those
things all sort of collide?
I think that the culture ischanging.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Absolutely, and that's something that you know
I'm very happy to see in ourlifetime.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Oh yeah, and I hope it only gets better.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
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today's video, or if you'relistening.
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But uh, thank you all very muchfor listening and or watching
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Anything else, matt?
That's it, bye, everybody.

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