LLP #121: Road-Ready Arsenal

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The "bug out vacation" represents a fascinating evolution in American travel culture. We're witnessing a fundamental shift in how families approach security and self-reliance while pursuing adventure and making memories on the road. This episode dives deep into this cultural transformation and what it means for today's travelers.

We explore how the expansion of constitutional carry laws (now in approximately 30 states) has changed the landscape for responsible travelers. However, we clarify a critical misconception - constitutional carry provisions generally only apply to residents of that state, making proper permits essential for interstate travelers seeking protection options.

The conversation extends beyond firearms to comprehensive preparedness. As we discuss, medical readiness deserves at least as much attention as defensive tools. The reality is stark: "The chances of you needing to plug a hole are way more than you making a hole." This practical insight reminds us that common injuries and emergencies are statistically more likely than defensive encounters.

We also examine the growing popularity of the "gray man" approach - maintaining capability without advertising it. This rejection of ostentatious tactical gear and politically-charged vehicle decorations represents a mature evolution in security mindset. There's wisdom in discretion, especially when traveling with family.

What's particularly encouraging is how this preparedness mindset transcends political boundaries. The desire to protect loved ones while enabling richer experiences isn't partisan - it's fundamentally human. As younger generations prioritize experiences over possessions, they're simultaneously adopting practical measures to ensure those experiences aren't derailed by preventable emergencies.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back everybody.
This is Eric and Matt, and thisis Life, liberty and the
Pursuit, your beacon of freedomand the American way of life.
Tune in every Monday for a newepisode as we dive into the
world of liberty and what makesour country great.
Welcome back everybody.
This is Eric and Matt here withLLP.
We've got another great showhere for you today and
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(00:21):
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release our show and we reallyappreciate you coming back to
join us in this crazy world ofdebauchery and chaos.
Hopefully we're the beacon oflight and freedom in that crazy
world here.
How are things, matt?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's great, you know.
Just you know, on top of allthat, just you know, some great
conversations to help you getyou through your work day always
you know, yeah, I'm so crazy.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I want to talk a little bit about that for a
second a podcast culture.
Yes, that's not what today'sshow is about, but I will talk
about that briefly.
Uh, today's show we're going tobe kind of talking more or less
about the bug out vacation yepright, what do we mean by that?
well, well, to break it down,essentially, what we're going to
be discussing is road guns andlike your preparedness when

(01:09):
you're on the road and you go onvacation, primarily if you're
taking a car trip and you havethe ability to bring some things
along that might beextracurricular, and we're going
to talk a little bit about howthe society and culture of that
has really shifted and changedand people have a much different
mindset about the level ofpreparedness they want to have

(01:29):
when they're out on the roadtraveling with their family,
when they're going on vacation.
It's almost this sort ofcombination of vacation and
bugging out.
You're essentially kind ofmixing those things.
So we're going to talk about itand hopefully some of you will
come away from today's show withsome ideas that I think will
really point some of you in theright direction.
Maybe there's some things youweren't thinking about.

(01:49):
Maybe there's some thingsyou've been doing that you'll
solidify your opinions on yourown process based on what we're
going over.
So we're going to talk about ita little bit.
But I do want to talk aboutpodcast culture really quick.
It's funny that you you madethat idea pop into my head, matt
, where I used to hate podcastculture.
I used to hate, you know, guyssitting around and talking for

(02:12):
an hour or sometimes more.
I mean, you look at some ofrogan's shows.
They're sometimes two and ahalf hours, depending on the
guest three hours right, and Iused to hate that.
I used to think, wow, what awaste of time listening to these
people.
But what's crazy.
And I hate to admit this.
But rogan kind of changed mymind on this.
It's like you listen to lex,like I like lex friedman.
I really enjoy his uh, you knowvery, uh, astute sort of you

(02:36):
know intellectual nature of howhe handles guests.
I always like that and andpodcasts kind of changed for me
a bit in recent years.
It's like when I'm on the roadand I'm listening to someone's
show, I kind of I kind of likethe conversation I love.
I love the art of discourse andthe art of of conversation and
uh, and I think my view ofpodcasts has changed a lot over

(02:58):
the years, especially since youand I started our show.
This is episode 120, I believe.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
So we're 120 episodes in, that's 120 plus hours of
conversations that you and Ihave had over the years, yeah,
and some of them have been likevery, very interesting yeah,
going all the way up to liketinfoil hat and alien abduction.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
I know, I know and I love discussing that stuff
because, you know, I like thingsthat are on the fringe of
society, matt, you know, I feellike there are so many ways that
in the past there have beenareas of our culture that are on
that fringe, on the fringe ofsociety.
The bohemian aspect.
You know, being a bohemian,someone who always goes against

(03:36):
the grain of what popularculture dictates, and I used to
despise that person, I used tothink what a degenerate and I
used to despise that person, Iused to think what a degenerate.
You know, and you think of thisbohemian view of liberalism and
this bohemian view oflibertarianism and oh, there's
hippies.
You know, almost like thishippie culture but in some ways,

(03:58):
like, as I get older, I lookback on that and you know, it's
kind of weird, matt, how we lookat culture and we look at
people and their views.
If someone is liberal, highlyliberal, and leftist when
they're young, what happens Alot of times?
When they get older, they getmore right wing, they get more
woke and woken, awakened, ormore red pilled, so to speak,

(04:23):
and they kind of become a littlebit more well-versed in the
reality of the world and theirviews change.
And I was always just extremelyright-wing, right out of the
womb.
I mean, I've always been a veryright-wing person and I still
consider myself obviouslyextremely right-wing.
But it's just so crazy how, asI get older, I find myself kind
of I don't want to now, don'ttake it as I'm getting soft

(04:44):
y'all, that's not that.
But I do kind of find myselfthinking you know, there are
middle ground on some things.
And uh, and I think that when Ilook at the realities of
morality and what real moralityis like, the animalistic nature
of the world and how we, we, wetend to, you know, we always

(05:07):
talk about being tribalized,being being tribal, and when you
look at that, at that in itsfull view, and the older you get
and the more you witness theway people act towards each
other and the reality of theworld that you see in front of
you, you realize that the, thatthe reality is somewhere in the
middle and I swear I've kind offound myself it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
You say you know, when you're younger you lean
more towards the left and as yougrow up you gradually start
heading more towards the right.
And that actually happens moreoften than not.
That was like me.
I wasn't a completely leftwinger.
But when you're younger, evenwhen you come out of the
military, you know honestly, youknow obviously your morals and

(05:51):
your values align more with theright.
But then your, your sense of youknow, of work, your work ethic,
you're like why, why am Iworking so hard?
I'm not getting enough, andthat kind of gives you that like
.
You know, why do they have itand I don't have it?
And it almost builds like thatvictim mentality from a very
young age.

(06:11):
Because when you think aboutwhat, when you say, oh, you
didn't put enough time at yourcompany to get the raise, or you
have to work for 10 years toget to like middle management,
and that kind of sparks thatthought of when you're younger,
well, why do I have to wait thatlong?
I want it now, I want it now, Iwant it now, I want it now.

(06:32):
And as you get older, you workharder and you realize that I
don't want to give someone thatdidn't earn it something, and
that's when you start going moretowards the right and you're
like, well, if I had to put in10 years of you know work to get

(06:54):
to where I'm at, you have toput in 10 years of work like
nothing's free, all right.
And then that sparks the, that'sjust sparks this big loop of
like hey, you have to earn it,nothing is given to you, that's
right.
And that's kind of where I'm atnow.
And you nailed it.
As you get older, as yourincome goes up, as your
responsibilities go up, as theamount of sacrifice that you put

(07:17):
in goes up, you start leaningmore right and you're like all
right, buddy, like I see it now,I see the world as it is.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
You begin to digest the realities of the world, not
only your world that you makeand you, the people you surround
yourself with and the decisionsthat you make that ultimately
shape your destiny, but also therest of society and where they
sit in that equation.
Because, you know, I've come tothis kind of strange
realization as I've gotten older.

(07:46):
It's like you know, I'm with mygirlfriend out on the island.
We take the boat and showyou've been over there.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Oh yeah, it was a great experience.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
We go over there and we backpack in and we set up our
camp and it's just us for miles, primitive camping, primitive
camping.
And you know, and I'm thinkingit's just the dog and me and my
girl, and it's like, wow, I amso freaking happy being being
just me and her and the dog, andit's like you know what that's
really what everyone wants.
Everyone's striving for theirown personal Eden, garden of

(08:17):
Eden, and, and some of us canachieve it and some of us can't,
and and when you can't achieveyour goals, it's frustrating,
you know, and your initialreaction is to find someone to
blame, for you know, obviously,well, someone else's fault is
why I'm not where I want to be,and maybe I'm a bad example of
that, because I don't really fitthe mold in the scenario for

(08:41):
what I do.
You know, I should be a garbageman or you know, a welder or
something like you know I'm, I'ma Joe Blow, I'm just, I'm just
a freaking hood rat guy thatgrew up in the ghetto.
That just happened to, likedamn you know, discover a
calling that I didn't realizeexisted and create my own job.
But that's not alwayseveryone's situation.
I'm very lucky and blessed tobe in that situation.

(09:03):
But people tend to, you know,sort of want to blame someone
else.
And I think that thetransformation from leftist to
middle ground to right wing,that you know, that
transformation, that Overtonwindow that shifts so much as we
see it, it's like when we seethat transition occur, it

(09:26):
becomes when we realize that noone's coming to save us and that
we are responsible for our ownfailures and our own successes.
And once you come to thatrealization, it's a very freedom
defining moment for a person,because you know, you know, I
can work as hard as I want or Ican work as not work as hard as
I want.
Once you kind of get to thatpoint where you you realize that

(09:47):
you know, yeah, you can makemore money if you work your butt
off, you can also just livemore simply.
I think that's where a lot ofthe millennials are at gen x
it's true um they're living moresimply.
Yeah, they may not be making asmuch money, but they're also
just not living beyond theirmeans, and I think that that's a
that's a good thing to see.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
I'm not saying that they shouldn't strive for more,
but they are living more withintheir means well, it's like a
double-edged sword, because youknow the next generation is
living, you know, within theirmeans, but their, their dreams,
is to have more.
So they, they want, they don'twant to work, and this is a.

(10:29):
This is a very generalizationand I apologize to any of our
viewers that feel like they'regetting lumped into this, but in
general they are okay with notworking as much for a certain
amount of money say fixed, fixedincome but then they want more
than what they can actuallyafford.

(10:49):
So they don't want to work ashard, but they want more without
the work.
It's like this weird, likecatch 22, like, hey, I only want
to work 40 hours a week.
I'm not doing any overtime, butI still want to be able to go
and do the Instagram vacationsthat I see.
I still want to be able to havethe nice car.
I still want to be able to havethe nice high rise condo

(11:11):
downtown or in midtown, but I'monly working 40 hours and
nothing more.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Right, and you're selling your time to other
people and not buildingsomething around your own little
nucleus of your own personalsuccess story.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
That's just from what I saw.
That's just what I've beenseeing now.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Okay, that does segue perfectly in today's show into
today's show, because what we'rediscussing is life and and
living and experiences.
This generation, gen x and andthe millennials both I can kind
of just lump together becausethey're all kind of in similar
places of life right now.
Right and um, what this Gen Z Iguess is the, is the up and

(11:48):
coming young generation thatthey're kind of becoming.
Oh, I think Gen Z is gettingnow around the age where they're
kind of getting in school,right, is that the idea?

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Um Gen Z, Gen X or Gen Z.
I'm not a hundred percent sure.
On gen z, I know thatgeneration alpha, which is my
daughter's age, my daughter'seight, so they are in a
different generation.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
They're in their infancy, essentially still
generation alpha, learning abouthow screwed up the world is
well, regardless of whatgeneration is going through what
let's just say, for lack ofbetter term that the younger
generation is experiencing, um,a very interesting coming of age
, and that involves, you know,hey, they're prioritizing
experiences over the material.

(12:30):
Now, some may want the material, some desire the material.
It's never been harder to buy astarter home, the prices on
starter homes have never beenmore expensive, and all those
things weigh heavily into theoverall thought process that a
young person is going to have interms of starting a family,
having children, laying downroots and, let's just say,

(12:51):
living the traditional nuclearfamily household story that so
many seem to want to be aprevalent thing in America, like
what one would call theAmerican dream.
But maybe it's not the Americandream anymore.
Maybe people are like you knowwhat?
I want to live life, I want tolive for myself, and that's a
dangerous place to be in insociety because birth rates are

(13:12):
down, a lot less people arehaving children.
So anyway, without going downinto the weeds on that, we're
going to discuss life and livingand the importance of getting
out and having fun with yourfamily and having these
experiences.
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So when we talk about buggingout on vacation, so we're going
to talk about how culture haschanged so much around guns.
I mean it's been said beforethat if you change culture, that
laws are always upstream ofculture.
As culture changes, as will thelaws.
Right, we see how much um carryreciprocity has changed.

(15:02):
Like you know, constitutionalcarry, I mean there's what over
30 states now that areconstitutional carry and growing
yep I was like what 31 now?
or?

Speaker 2 (15:09):
something it's 29 29 with with north carolina being
the cutter on the fence but see,the funny thing about north
carolina is they haveconstitutional constitutional
open carry.
That's always been you can opencarry in North Carolina if
you're a citizen.
You can't conceal carry.
So they're voting onconstitutional concealed carry.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
But for lack of better term, let's just say that
culture is changing aroundfirearms and protecting yourself
, and so do the laws, right, youknow, those things have to go
hand in hand.
I mean, a great way to look atit is when you had prohibition,
right, you know, when they triedto.
You know, criminalize alcoholand everything.
You know there's this hugeunderground market for illegal

(15:54):
alcohol.
You had speakeasies.
You had these people.
You know, even the feds and lawenforcement would go in and get
hammered in the speakeasies atnight.
And there was, you know.
So what was happening?
Culture society was voting withtheir feet and they were saying
you know what we want?
Alcohol.
We don't care what the law is.
Even the cops were putting themback.
Now you had some super pure,super Christian, super

(16:20):
evangelical people who were like, well, I'm going to enforce the
law, no matter what, the DudleyDo-Right kind of people of the
community that are untouchableand I get that.
But the bulk of society votedwith their feet and they're like
well, we want alcohol, we don'tcare if it's bathtub hooch,
we're going to drink and noone's going to tell us we can't.
What happened?
They had to repeal prohibitionbecause people just simply

(16:41):
disobeyed and once massnoncompliance becomes a
component of a law that theyweren't expecting, they have no
choice but to repeal that law.
And we see a lot of thingsgoing on in the Second Amendment
community with that.
I mean, look how everything wentwith the braces, that situation
and bump stocks and thingswhere we have these devices,

(17:04):
that sort of sit on the grayline of the law, a little bit
like right on the edge, andpeople are always going to see
how close they can toe the line,to see how far they can go
without upsetting the man, andeventually that becomes an
overstep.
Eventually people go you knowwhat Screw this, we're not going

(17:24):
to obey this, we're going to dowhat we want.
And eventually it's like okay,you're either going to arrest
everybody and throw everyone injail or you're going to go.
You know what?
We lost this law.
We have to repeal it.
We have to do X, y, z so manythings in the Second Amendment
community.
I think that even the lawenforcement like, even people
like atf on their best day atfonly has like 5500 field agents
for the whole country, in factthe whole world, I believe, like

(17:46):
in the entire planet.
That's not a lot of people toessentially police an entire
society of people when it comesto firearm stuff and when you
right.
So at what point do you realizethat the war's lost and that you
know this whole thing is just amoot point now, like why
disrupt people's lives, why sendpeople to jail over something

(18:10):
that is just very innocuous andinnocent?
And I think that's where a lotof people are at.
It's not that there's this kindof glowing massive
noncompliance with the wholething.
Well, perhaps there is acomponent of that, but part of
it is just where people are likewhat are y'all doing?
What are y'all freaking doing?
Like you're disrupting people'sthe lives of normal people just

(18:30):
trying to live free and protectthemselves and live their lives
by their own standards.
Like what are you doing?
What do you think you're doingand how do you suppose you're
going to actually carry out yourwishes, and which of you are
actually emboldened andmotivated to actually carry out
those wishes?

(18:51):
So it's like by the time okay,yeah, on paper you got 55,000 or
5,500 soldiers.
How many of them are actuallygoing to carry out the order?
How many of them are?
Let's just say how many of themare motivated to the point that
they're actually going to, youknow, be politically brainwashed
, to the point that they'rewilling to politically carry out

(19:12):
that you know.
I just don't see the mathadding up on that.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
And that's how prohibition was.
Yeah, I mean now I think thatthere's, unfortunately more
willing to do that for apaycheck than not, but back when

(19:41):
prohibition era was going on.
I mean that says something whenthere's enough mask
noncompliance that companieshave concentrated grape juice
you buy in the grocery store andthey slap a warning label that
says do not add water and put uh, put in the cabinet and wait
one week or you will.
This will turn into wine, it'slike.
So it's like imagine thatcompanies are actively telling
you not to do something, knowinggood and well they're giving

(20:02):
you the instructions on how todo said thing.
Um, now, imagine if they didthat.
Now, like gun companies arelike do not take out this fire
control unit and punch a thirdhole in here, right, or you will
have a machine gun do notcombine bleach and peroxide.
Yeah, don't, for whatever, donot do this and I mean it don't

(20:24):
and I'm not now on that, we'rejoking.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
but on this one, serious, don't mix those.
Okay, there's lots of householdchemicals.
You shouldn't mix boys andgirls.
So anyway, mainly ammonia.
Yeah, be careful with ammonia.
Look, the point is people areprioritizing experiences and
what we're trying to provide isthe context to sort of back up
what creates the fringe ofsociety who decides I'm going to

(20:47):
do what the hell I want, right?
No one's going to tell me whatto do.
And, hey, I may not have a lotof money to buy that boat or
that luxury item or to buy thatextra widget or whatever it may
be, but dang, if we don't havethe money to.
You know, let's go on asightseeing trip, let's go
hiking, let's go to themountains, let's get out and
just share nature with thefamily, or let's just take a

(21:08):
road trip.
Hey, fuel prices are, you know,pretty reasonable.
In America, fuel prices aregenerally a lot better than they
are around other parts of theworld.
Right In Brazil my girlfriend'sfrom Brazil down there, prices
on fuel are astronomical andcars are astronomically
expensive, motorcyclesastronomically expensive, and

(21:30):
you got to worry about groups ofthugs pulling you over on the
side of the road and shootingyou and stealing your car left
and right and they'll chop shopthat thing and they'll part it
out.
So at least we don't live in acountry where you have to worry
about someone popping you in thehead with a gun and stealing
your car to to part it out forparts.
You don't have to worry aboutpaying $9 a gallon for fuel.
So we have for lack of a betterterm freedom of travel we do.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Now, how you travel is completely up to you and I'm
glad that you wanted to discussthis because it is a mindset
right.
So when you go on vacation oryou're traveling, so my family,
we travel a lot and it's solelydue to doing a lot of
competitions.
Like I compete in jujitsu, mydaughter competes in wrestling,

(22:17):
so we're driving all over thesoutheast.
Now we have a rule If the driveis longer than, say, seven or
eight hours, we're flying Likethat's just the way it is.
Like my back, you know, I havea bad back from being in the
army like just not good knees,bad back, bad.
That's pretty par for thecourse for most infantry guys.
I don't want to sit in a carfor longer than seven or eight

(22:40):
hours driving, all right.
So we fly, but seven or eighthours, that puts us anywhere,
including Alabama, tennessee,kentucky, south Carolina, like
the Southeast region.
We travel lifestyle wise.
We keep everything packed.
My car, you know, might soundcrazy to some people, but not to

(23:01):
people that live the lifestyle.
You know, I keep a mmp sport ortwo in the back of the car.
Level four plates, vest,hearing protection, everything
is all together, nice littlepackage right there in the back,
hanging on a hook underneath my, where my spare tire is, I have
the actual carbine ammo.
Everything's set to go.

(23:22):
That never leaves the car.
That is always there.
That goes with me wherever wego in the vehicle.
Then I have my personal CCW thatI carry with me.
And that brings up a greatpoint with reciprocity.
When you said, hey, most peopledon't know this, but just
because the state isconstitutional carry, that only

(23:43):
pertains to residents of thatstate.
So if you are not, so forGeorgia has constitutional carry
.
If you're visiting from anotherstate and you are not a
resident of Georgia, then thatconstitutional carry does not
pertain to you because you arenot a Georgia resident, which is
why you need a CCW if you'regoing to travel.

(24:05):
So that way, if I'm travelingaround to these different states
, I don't have to worry about itbecause that has reciprocity.
Do I like the fact that I haveto get a CCW license permit?
No, does it help?
Absolutely, it helps keepeverything kosher as far as
traveling.
If I go to purchase firearminstant, I'm not waiting

(24:26):
background check.
They've already done that.
No, I'm glad that it's notrequired, but it's good.
It's good that you know when wetravel back and forth.
It makes life easier, um, butthat's the main thing.
Like you have to be when thethe the subject of the podcast
bug out vacation.
Like we go on vacation toFlorida.
Wherever we make sure we haveall that stuff with us.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Like you, got to think you're away from home, you
don't have the conveniences ofbeing able to go in and grab a
blowout kit or grab a medicalkit or grab a tourniquet, I mean
.
And look, I know we all havethis sort of a view right, that
if something bad happens it'sgoing to be some John Wick shit
and you're going to be reloadingand all you know all this sort
of stuff.
I mean, as guys, we can't helpbut fantasize that a bit.

(25:13):
I mean, look, it's just part ofbeing a man and being masculine
is like who doesn't want tosave the day, like.
Everyone has that view and Iget it, trust me, I do.
You should be prepared to be WICif you need to, but more than
likely you're going to need tobe the medic, you're going to
need to apply medical and thereare so many ways to get hurt
beyond firearms.

(25:33):
We get pigeonholed into thismindset of thinking that, well,
because I'm a gun guy, whatever,if I get hurt out on the road,
it's going to be from a gun, andwe tend to have that very
erroneous view.
The fact is, there are way moreways to get hurt.
There are plenty of ways to gethurt.
Y'all the chances of youneeding to plug a hole are way,

(25:55):
way, way more than you making ahole.
I mean, let's just face it Now.
You need to be prepared to makesome dang holes if need be.
You need to perforate yourenemy if they decide to come in
for you.
You got to be ready.
But also understand that thechances of you needing to you
know, deal with a little cut onyour little girl's finger or
deal with a little bruise or abump or a strawberry oh, she

(26:19):
fell down, scratched her knee,and those types of things happen
all the time and you're goingto need to prepare for those
little eventualities and I knowthis sounds crazy for me to say
but the little welly, boo-bookits.
You're going to find yourselfcracking open that welly, way
more than you are your bug outbag or your chest rig or
something.

(26:40):
But you need to be ready in casesomething goes south, because
your family relies on you.
If you are the only means ofprotection they have and you're
away from the home, you have noway to hunker down in your
abodement and protect yourselfor run away.
Solidify yourself somehow.
You've got to be willing toharden up and deal with the
situation as it unfolds in frontof you and that's not always an
easy thing for people to workout in their minds because you

(27:02):
know we are generally a prettypeaceful society in America.
Generally we're a very hightrust society Generally.
No-transcript, all right, youknow, hey, maybe.

(27:28):
Uh, you know we're going tohave the M4 with a round in the
chamber, you know we're going tobe ready.
You just never know.
And I'm not saying those arethe kind of places that we all
regularly frequent, but it's notto say that there aren't places
that are more dangerous thanothers.
That's just the reality of theworld that we live in.
And even though we are a veryhigh trust society, there are
going to be situations where youfind yourself sort of upping

(27:51):
the threat factor a bit in yourmind.
This is not something you makean announcement over the.
You know you're in your car andgo threat level four here.
Oh God, code yellow.
We've gone from a code green toa code yellow.
No, but in your mind you'reconstantly reassessing the
threat factor that you see andthe potential for threats and

(28:12):
you're always remaining veryvigilant and paying attention to
everything that you see aroundyou as it unfolds.
And I think that's just part ofbeing a normal protector, a
normal masculine man.
These are things that you don'tneed to train to do, you just
need to instinctively do it,because that's part of being a
man is assessing yoursurroundings and knowing when

(28:32):
something could go wrong.
Your partner's job and again,this is assuming we're all you
know, man and woman here, butlet's just say your lady's job
is to just be a woman.
She doesn't need to be thinkingabout all of the minutiae of
death and destruction and mayhem.
She needs to be worried abouther nails and her makeup and her
outfit.
And you know what the kids aredoing.

(28:54):
You know, yeah, she's checkingon the kids.
She's making sure the kids arecomfortable in the car.
She's hey, when are we going tostop?
I have to pee.
Hey, I'm hungry, I want aburrito.
That's her job is to worryabout the minutia of living.
It's your job to keep themalive and in my mind, that's.
The man's job is to bear thebrunt of that chaos so that your
partner doesn't have to.

(29:15):
I mean, that's just part of it.
Now there are couples I've seenwhere both are kind of unhinged
.
And that's okay.
I've seen couples before.
I've seen chicks with theLiberty tattoos and all that.
And yeah, would that girl graban MP5 and smoke someone?
I'm sure she would.
But I'm saying that for mostpeople, generally speaking, the

(29:39):
man is going to be the providerof the security in that equation
.
I would say probably more timesthan not.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
I think you know it really comes down to.
That's a great point.
I think that it just comes downto, like, what you're looking
for in a partner.
Some guys are looking for ateammate, a partner, to do that
Like.
They're both very like, verysimilar, they're both always
head on a swivel, they're bothalways have each other's back.
And then there's some guys I'mvery much in your ballpark of

(30:08):
hey, I want to be the protectorof the family.
That is my burden to bear and Iwill do a good job of it.
And you, your burden is hey,let's take care of the house.
Let's take care of the house,let's take care of the kids.
You know I'll do my part of youknow trying to upkeep the, the
house of.
You know, doing the, the dutiesof what needs to be done.
But let me be the man, let mebe the protector it's so crazy.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
My girlfriend is so awesome.
I'm like she.
You know she.
She grew up in brazil, so youknow like look y'all the
brazilians capital.
Look the brazilians are wiredcompletely different y'all, like
you know, they have acompletely different mindset on
on what that means.
And I'm very lucky that my girlyou know she's kind of girl
that she'll doll up and look allpretty, have all her, you know,

(30:54):
done up really right, and youknow she, she loves to look good
and have her makeup on andshe's very feminine girl, you
know, and obviously so.
But you would think, oh, youknow she's harmless.
So you look at her and thinkshe's just a little school girl,
she's harmless.
But I tell you, if somethingwent down, you know she's going
to have that Beretta pointed atyour freaking face quicker than
you can even think.
Like she, she's all, she'shypervigilant because of how she

(31:17):
grew up.
Now, I'm not saying that everyperson should be like that, but
I think she's perfect in that.
Like she, she is so in tunewith that violence factor.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
It's.
It's awesome, Like she became aproduct of her environment.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
A product of your environment.
That's a perfect way to put it,matt You're a product of your
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All right, so we look at thewhole protector paradigm.
What do we mean when we saythis whole bug out mentality and
that you, you, you actuallylaid out the foundation
perfectly when you talked aboutthe way that you organize your

(32:55):
vehicle when you're?
When you're traveling, you havethe option to use that stuff if
you need it, but you don't makea.
When you're traveling, you havethe option to use that stuff if
you need it, but you don't makea big deal about it.
You don't show it off, youdon't have tactical stickers all
over your car, gun rightsstickers all over your car.
You don't wear tactical pantsand tactical britches and
tactical backpacks.
I mean this whole gray manmentality.
Look, I get it.

(33:17):
Okay, I used to be the kind ofperson that wore boots and
tactical pants and the veteranhat.
It's, it's, trust me, when you,when you're exposed to the
military environment, it reallydoes institute this sort of
regimented way of thinking inyour life.
You know, and it, it, you wantothers to know that you, that
you kind of that.

(33:38):
You've been indoctrinated intothat regimented way of thinking.
It's not necessarily a badthing, right?
If we see another veteranwearing a veteran hat, that's an
instant conversation starter.
You can go hey, what did you do?
What was your MOS?
So we want to feel included ina group of people.
It's natural for us as humanbeings we want to feel included

(33:58):
and we want our people to knowwho we are.
And you know, yeah, and itdoesn't matter guys, it's
universal If, if I see an oldNavy veteran from World War Two,
do you think for one secondthat I'm not going to go over
and talk to that guy?
Of course I am, you know I wantto.
I want to hear a story like aquick story.
Of course I am, you know I wantto.

(34:18):
I want to hear a story like aquick story.
And and if you're wearing aveteran hat, you know, hey, war
in Iraq and then world war two.
Well, guess what?
You instantly have a bond andyou don't realize it yet.
That veteran's going to see youand he's going to know that he
can talk to you about anythingbecause you've been, you've been
in something right.
So a lot of veterans, they don'twant to talk about things that
they that they did not to ignoreme, but they're going to talk

(34:41):
to another veteran.
So it's kind of like, why dopeople wear the veteran hat?
Because it identifies you as aveteran and when you talk to
other veterans it's like that'skind of that universal sign.
It's like, okay, this person'sin the know.
So I know how far I can takethe story if I want.
Or I know how far I can talkabout something.
Or I know I know that if I usesome vernacular or acronyms, I

(35:01):
know they're going to understandwhat I'm talking about.
They're going to know what anMOS is Like.
There's just certain lingo thatcivilians will understand.
And it's not being big headedor weird, it's just the reality
of military life compared tocivilian life.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
No, you're absolutely , you're absolutely correct and
I've had the privilege to talkwith you know, I'll see them out
in public Vietnam veterans andWorld War II veterans and I
think you know, when you'rehaving these conversations with
them and you're kind of like,you know, chewing the fat and
telling stories, you don't haveto emphasize certain things like

(35:33):
you would with a civilian.
Like a civilian, uh, you know,I mean, granted, I'm a civilian
now, but like when you're, whenyou're talking telling these
stories, you're like oh, I shothim like a normal, uh, another
combat that just like yeah butsomeone has never served.
They're like, yeah, yeah, youknow like you have to like
really kind of pick and choose,like right, like to make it seem

(35:54):
like you're not some kind ofpsycho.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
You're like I had to shoot him, like Like no, like I
shot him, there's no filter withveterans, yeah it is what it is
, and you know when someonelooks the part they're wearing
the hat, I mean and you knowwhen it's stolen valor and when
it's not.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yeah, Come on, you can tell, you know.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
And as a veteran part , you know that there's no
filter there, there's noboundary with that person and,
and it's crazy, you could be acomplete stranger.
You know, I've I've walked upto world war ii vets before and
you know and this is when I wasstill wearing my veteran hats
and stuff and you know, orsomething that would indicate
that a prior service of somesort, I think at one point I was
wearing a cib hat that has acib on it.

(36:36):
You know some of us we do that.
You know I don't do it anymore.
I'm going to talk about why I'mgoing to get back to the
original.
I haven't gotten too far offtrack, but I'll get back to the
original.
Uh thought, but I remembertalking to one guy and you know
he opened up about water canaland it's like whoa, holy crap.
Like you know, this marine istalking about holy crap.

(36:58):
I was like wow, I'm hearing that, like you know he, he trusts me
enough to like.
It's almost like they know thatthose stories are gonna fall by
the wayside, they're gonna begone when they're gone.
So when they tell you thosethings, it's like that's an
honor for someone to putsomething that heavy and deep on
somebody they don't even know,but they trust you enough to
accept that you're okay with itbecause you've experienced

(37:20):
something similar.
Maybe you weren't stackingbodies like sandbags, like in
guadalcanal right man, theystacked them deep, but they know
that you're gonna, that you'regonna pass the message.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yes, yes, and you're not gonna judge them for for
what they're asking.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yes and and that's what it all comes down to.
So, getting back to the grayman, many of us have kind of
come to the realization thatsometimes it's all comes down to
.
So, getting back to the grayman, many of us have kind of
come to the realization thatsometimes it's not always
practical to walk around withthe combat boots and the
tactical pants and all this sortof stuff and the whole gray man
mentality has gotten much, muchmore popular in society.
So, as Matt said, getting backto the original statement that I

(37:55):
was trying to, you know I getoff track sometimes, but what I
was trying to you know get offtrack sometimes, but what I was
trying to complete my thoughtprocess was that, uh, matt, by
having this gray man view, youknow, no stickers, no tactical
crap, no veteran, this veteran,that gun rights, this gun right,
that come take it.
This come take it, that it'sbad.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
When I see those, come and take it.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Stickers, right you don't put a come and take it
sticker on your car becausethey're going to come take it.
They're going to wait tillyou're parked at disneyland,
they're going to break the backwindow and take it.
You know.
So you know there is a beautyin in not being known.
Yep, to blend in with the, withthe normies, as hard as that is
, I get it.
Like if you went to the, youwent to the fbi academy and you

(38:37):
made it through fbi academy.
I know how hard it is not toput that fbi academy sticker on
your car.
I get it.
Okay, I know how hard it is.
You're proud of it, but I'mtelling you it's like don't yeah
, just don't target, just don'tum, I will.
I will say this though, um youknow and you should know that

(38:58):
from being in the FBI Academy,by the way, anyway.
No, it's true.
How did you make it through andnot know?

Speaker 2 (39:02):
that I will say, and I'm just going to go back real
quick because I know we're goingto move on.
When I did talk with thoseWorld War II vets and Vietnam
vets, the one thing that Ialways found interesting was
that they would always look atyou know me or any other, you
know g watt soldier, and theywould always comment the same
thing.
They're like oh, you guys hadit so bad, isn't that weird?

(39:26):
Yeah, that's so weird.
They would always.
And and the crazy thing is welooked at the opposite, we
looked at it to them like youguys, both of you, vietnam and
what we're doing had it so muchworse.
And you know, I asked them whyI I had it so much worse.
And you know I asked them why.
I was like so why would you saythat?
Why do you think that?
Because the GWAC guys, we thinkyou guys had it way worse.

(39:46):
They did.
And well, see, that's ouropinion.
But the one thing they said wasthey knew who they were fighting
and they said, at least theyknew the difference, like they
could look at somebody and say,hey, that's the enemy and this
is not.
She said you guys had no idea.
You have guys trying to blowyou up on the road you had.

(40:07):
You're going into villages.
They think you're your friendbut they're not.
They said that's worse than nothaving a frontline war and I
was like you know what?
That does make sense.
That doesn doesn't change myopinion.
I still think you guys had itway worse.
But I can see why you wouldthink.
Because they're basically we'refighting a war.
We were fighting a war thatthey had no experience on how to
fight.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Vietnam was a royally shitty war.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, it was just so crazy to like.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
I will never equate what I went through to what no
we used to talk about that whenwe were over there having trench
foot and walk around nasty,getting rained on all the time
you know wading rivers.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Oh man, just being so , can you imagine wading through
a, doing a river crossing andthen spending the next three
days in a humid jungle?
Never being dry not being ableto dry out swamp ass, oh man
crotch rot, yeah, oh, my god.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Imagine the, the chafing on your legs.
I mean no way.
And then they're trying to killyou the whole time.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
So, like we look at it from that point of view and
well as infantrymen.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah, we're like no way, that's the suck, yep, and
then jungle fighting sucks.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
And then they look at it from their point of view
like, oh, you're just walkingdown the street and they try to
blow you up venomous snakes, bigass spiders, dangerous monkeys
even probably no way.
Howler monkeys yeah, I mean noway.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
I mean then you gotta worry about a monkey stealing
your, your canteen or something.
Wake up, damn what happened.
There's no telling what thoseguys went through and they view
it so nonchalantly because whenyou look at something in
retrospect it's easy to go ah,it wasn't so bad, yeah.
But while you're doing ityou're thinking oh my god.
Well, that's what makes it sorelatable between war veterans

(41:47):
is that, like we all, we all,you know, experience suck, so we
can all relate on that samelevel yeah, the suck is the suck
, no matter where you you know,it could be hot and and dry, or
it could be hot and humid, butthe suck is the suck.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Oh yeah, man, I got a lot of respect for those guys,
tremendous amount of respect, soa lot of respect.
With that said, I I didn'trealize you know the way that I
have my vehicle loaded out whenI'm traveling.
I didn't realize how crazy itlooks to other people, because
I'm like hanging around peoplethat are like me, until a guy
needed, uh, me to jump his car.

(42:21):
And now my battery.
I drive, uh, an audi and theaudi battery is in the trunk,
all right.
So guess what else is in mytrunk, like all my gear.
So I had to back up to hisvehicle and I opened my, I
popped my, my, my trunk, andlike he's standing there and my
trunk opens and he's like I lookat his eyes and his eyes just

(42:44):
kind of like, oh my God, what isthis stuff?
And you know, like I said,plate carrier, full loadout, um,
uh, everything.
And then I have to open up thespare tire.
Well, underneath the spare tire, well, is where I keep my, my
carbine.
And this guy's like who is thisguy?
And I have to pull all thisstuff out of my trunk.
Um, unfortunately, the thebattery is in a very, uh,

(43:08):
inconvenient location in myvehicle.
So I had to pull all this stuffout.
So I'm just putting it on theground and it just looks like
I'm on a firearm store, like allthis stuff out.
So I'm just putting it on theground and it just looks like
I'm I own a firearm store, likeall this stuff is laid out.
I finally get his vehiclejumped and, you know, I find it
perfectly normal and I don'tknow if that's just because I'm
conditioned to accept the factthat this is how people travel,

(43:32):
but I would like to believe thatthere's more people out there
that travel in this manner thanthan not.
Um, and that's just like.
That was like, like coming toJesus, like, oh man, I should
have probably been a little bitmore careful about, you know,
letting him know like, hey man,this is normal stuff, right, but
but the reality, matt, is thatthat is much more normal to a

(43:54):
much larger subset of society.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
I'd like to believe so.
I want to believe it too, and Itell you, the more and more
people I run into that just kindof seem like normal people,
like just normies going abouttheir day.
You know, you're seeing morepeople owning an AR, owning
maybe some armor, owning a fewextra magazines, having a little
food storage, having some basicpreparations in place, and I

(44:17):
don't see anything wrong withthat.
In fact I celebrate it, evenwhen it's people that maybe they
think differently than me.
I think that if someone thinksdifferently than me politically,
that's okay.
I'm willing to accept that Icould be wrong.
I hope that they're willing toaccept that they could be wrong.
I hope that they're willing toaccept new information as they
see it and that they'll thinkabout their views as logically
as I do.
I hope that they're willing toaccept that they could be wrong.
I hope that they're willing toaccept new information as they

(44:38):
see it and that they'll thinkabout their views as logically
as I do.
I hope that and I really wantto believe that for a majority
of people.
But being able to protectyourself outside of the confines
of organized governmentinterference is probably way
more important to your politicallet's just say education than

(44:58):
anything else could ever be.
Because once you begin to thinkas an individual, to think as
an independent person, to be anindependent thinker, to gather
the facts, to protect your viewswith your own might, rather,
and to gather your own might todo that, you really do become

(45:18):
your own person and over timeyou begin to sort of reject some
of the traditional confines ofwhat you feel society has placed
on you, such as you know I'mnot saying just you know be an
anarchist, but I think that partof your political education
falls to the wayside when youdon't have the ability to

(45:41):
protect yourself outside theconfines of the government
protecting you.
You should never rely on themto protect you.
Now, is that to say that ifsomething terrible happened,
let's say we were invaded by anoutside army I know this is
again, this is one of thoseweird John.
Wick scenario where we go oh,john Wick, red Dawn, right,
those two scenarios.
A red Dawn scenario we're beinginvaded, everyone wants to

(46:03):
believe that they're going tograb their rifle and run out the
door and go fight the bad guys.
You know, and honestly I thinkit's way more true than you,
than you might think, I think alot of people are not going to
have that right.
But when we look at that, isthat to say now do I want an
F-16 dropping a bomb on theenemy in the wood line?
At that point, yeah, I want theF-16s to help me.

(46:25):
If I can right, I'll take thegovernment when it benefits the
greater society, but if I don'thave to, I don't want to
interact with them, I don't wantanything to do with them.
If I have a choice and I haveto absolutely need it it has to
be beyond the need, it has to beso far into the realm of need

(46:46):
that there's no other choice.
Now, some people don't havethat mentality, but I think that
when you gather the tools ofself-preservation and that comes
in the form of medical food,water, guns, whatever have, you
know that mindset.
Once you gather that mindsetand it becomes a part of your
life, you begin to question whatyou've always been told about.

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Yes, because gold historicallyas a commodity has gone up.
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Just don't have the idea thatyou're going to bug out with a
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So just remember thatinvestments are a long game.
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maintain its solidarity with themarket in the now.
So wherever you place thatmoney now, it's never going to.
Generally, it may go down some,of course, markets are markets
and they fluctuate, but it'salways going to be a commodity
that will continue to climb andhistorically, when you look at

(50:36):
the price of gold and silver, ithas historically climbed.
And as the debasement ofcurrency becomes much more of a
thing, you're definitely goingto see markets be very volatile
because the dollar has lesspurchasing power.
I mean, after all, a dollarsilver coin used to be a dollar.
So what does that tell youabout a dollar?
Now, an ounce of silver Ihaven't checked spot, but I'm

(50:59):
thinking probably 40 bucks ormore for an ounce of silver, at
least Right, and a one ouncecoin.
If I had to guess, you knowyour average Morgan's probably
selling for 40, $45, maybe more.
I haven't checked the markets,but again, that used to be $1,.
Matt, that was a dollar.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, so that means that your dollar is worth 45, 50
times less than what it waswhen a Morgan was $1.
Yeah, that's silver.
So silver has traditionallybeen a little bit more volatile.
Right Gold has growntremendously.
The current spot price rightnow is $3,266 per gram right now
is $3,266 per gram.
Wow, now imagine you see theguys walking around with like

(51:42):
the Cuban link necklaces.
It's like probably like 15grams of gold man, like some big
chonky boys, that is a veryexpensive necklace.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
But it's a good way to protect your wealth.
If you're wearing your wealth,I mean like who's gonna take it
from you?

Speaker 2 (51:58):
they can, they can take it from you it's funny back
and it's a funny story back inthe days those cubans are heavy
dude like you would see, likethe, the pimps they would have,
like the gold, and beforethey're getting arrested, you
would see them take it off andstart giving it to their, to
their girls and they would usethat to bail them out of jail.
They were literally wearingtheir bail money around them and

(52:20):
it was just a little funnystory about how they, why they
would.
You would always see them likepulling off their rings.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Oh man.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
That way, they have a way to get out.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Well, so I think that as we wrap up today's show,
it's important to reflect onfamily and community, and you
know what our rights really meanto us, and that's what I really
wanted to, you know, makeprevalent in today's show is
that this younger generation.
They are prioritizingexperiences over things.

(52:51):
And how do we protect us in ournatural environment as we
experience life?
And that's really, it's such abasic idea you would think that
so many people get it, but theydon't.
They tend to lose sight of whatreal liberty even really is,
and that's the ability toprotect the words that come out
of your mouth, to defend whatyou say, to defend your position

(53:13):
where you are, to defend whoyou are, where you are and when
you are.
And if you don't have theability and the tools and the
foresight at your disposal to dothat, ultimately you will wind
up being a burden on society insome way, if not a burden on
yourself.
And, boy, the form of burdenthat you are on yourself may be

(53:34):
your last burden ever.
You may not survive to see theend of it, and that's the
scariest thing that we all wantto avoid, especially when we're
with our kids.
Some of you have children, someof you are married.
You know you have your partner.
The last thing you want to dois let down your partner in the
worst way possible.
It could, you know, you wind upgetting robbed or worse.
There's a lot of things thatcan happen and unfortunately,

(53:57):
the world is a dirty and scaryplace and while we are a very
high-trust society, there arepeople that mean you harm.
And you're going to run into150 or 200 people that are
awesome, but there might be oneperson in that group of 200 that
you want to watch out for.
They might have something badplanned for you and if had you

(54:19):
misstepped or miscalculated orprepared improperly, it might
not end well for you.
And I'm not saying live lifeworried about that one out of
200.
No not saying live life withthat victim mentality.
Oh, woe is me.
The sky is falling, everyperson's out to hurt me.
People tend to have that viewof gun owners.
They think, well, what are youscared of?

(54:40):
Why do you have to have a gun?
Don't you know jujitsu, matt?
Don't you know karate?
Don't you know how to protectyourself?
Why don't you go to the gym,you big?
Why don't you go work out andget strong?
Why do you need a gun?
Well, guess what I do work out,you work out.
You know jujitsu.
I may not be as good on thecombat sports as you are, but
I'm in shape.
You better believe I can throwsomebody out a window if I need
to.
This isn't about that.

(55:02):
This is about the person whomight mean you harm.
They're going to have a gun.
You better believe it.
So damn, you better have one.
And I find that such a low tier, low hanging fruit argument of
why, oh well, why do you haveall those guns?
Or what are you scared of?
As a matter of fact, I'm notscared of anything.

(55:22):
What are you scared of?
I guarantee you, if you stripback the veneer of all the bull
crap you're peddling, you'rescared of something and you
better believe it may even bethat you're so afraid of being a
gun owner.
Maybe you're afraid of guns andthat's why you don't have a gun
.
But you better believe they'regoing to try to equate that to
me being fearful of society, bro.

(55:46):
No way, that's actually theopposite.
I'm not scared of anythingbecause I'm prepared for
anything.
I think that's a reallyimportant mindset that people
need to have.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
I a hundred percent agree and I will comment on that
.
But I do need to make acorrection.
I stated about three minutesago that the spot price for gold
was 3200 and some change pergram.
I apologize, that was per ounce.
So yes, just so you guys know,it's 3244 per ounce now, now

(56:15):
that that correction has beenmade, as far as what are people
scared of?
As someone that owns ajiu-jitsu academy and we see new
students all the time I cantell you that the number one
people fear is performance.
Like they are scared of howthey're going to perform.
They, in their mind, theybelieve they're perfectly

(56:35):
capable.
They're perfectly capable ofdefending themselves, whether
it's with jujitsu, whether it'swith a firearm, whether it's
with a knife.
They, in their mind, think thatthey can do it.
In actuality, they're helpless.
They're helpless creatures.
They're scared of being provenwrong.
Exactly, they don't want tobelieve that they can't defend
themselves or they can't defendtheir family.

(56:56):
And when they actually try tolearn, they've realized how
incapable they are.
That's what they're scared of.
They don't want to know, theywant to continue to go through
life believing they could do itif the time came.
So that's the number one thing,and that happens a lot, even
with firearms training.
Man, like think about it, youleave the military and you'd

(57:16):
like to believe, oh, I'm a, I'mfamiliar with firearms, you know
whether it's a pistol orfirearm like a machine gun, or
you know, uh, m four, m, ar 15,you don't go and go to the
shooting range, you don't docompetitions, you don't get
training because you don't wantto get shown how bad you really
are.
Um, and that's like the numberone thing.

(57:36):
You see people like why don'tyou shoot uspa?
Why don't you shoot thiscompetition?
Because you suck?
Like, yeah, you're familiarwith it.
That doesn't mean you're goingto go out and do well at the
competition.
And they don't.
Again, they don't want to beshown how bad they really are,
they want to continue throughlife believing that they're
capable.
Man, it's, it's not true.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
So I'll give you a little insider baseball, like on
days that I go.
So I'm due for some filmingdays to get out and cut some
range content.
Believe me, I read the comments.
I know you guys are ready forsome range content.
I've got some awesome stuff toshow you.
By the way, I've got a Beretta1301 in that we're going to do a
video on.
I've got a cool 10 gauge thatwe cut down.
That's really wicked.
There's some sub guns, lots ofneat stuff.

(58:17):
So don't worry, we've got a lotof things coming.
But when I go out and film thosevideos, you know we'll go out
and film as many in one day aswe can possibly get done.
And yeah, I'll change shirts,I'll change hats.
I'm telling you the truth here.
It's just yes, you're movingcameras around.

(58:37):
It's hot and muggy.
Maybe one day the lighting isjust perfect because the clouds
are overcast.
You're like, oh man, thisshot's looking great.
You want to film as much as youcan when the conditions are
perfect, right.
That's just the logistics offilming stuff, right.
And it doesn't matter if it'sgunplay or anything.
Anything outdoors, gunplay oranything.
Anything outdoors when theconditions are perfect.
Yeah, you want to film whilethe getting's good Right.

(58:57):
So and there are days that I'vegone out and and man, I'll shoot
all day, and I go, wow, I had afantastic day, man, I'll hit.
Hit every piece of steel,logged, every shot.
None of the guns malfunctioned,everything worked right.
I got every shot the way Iwanted it.
I put a shot, a bottle cap offwith a shotgun slug.
I did all headshots on the D28at 35 yards and, man, I haven't

(59:19):
shot a pistol in a couple ofweeks.
Like man, I'm doing really goodtoday.
And there's days that Isurprise myself and I go, wow,
like I still got it.
Man, I can still shoot reallygood, you know, even though I
don't really practice as much aspeople might think I do.
But then there are days where Igo out and I'm like man, I am
shooting so royally shitty today.
I should just hang up my hat asa YouTuber and just say you
know what I give up.

(59:40):
There are days that I have ashitty day at the range and it's
not always, you know, roses andsunshine.
Now, luckily, there are waymore better days than there are
bad days.
But it just seems like thereare some days that I go out and
for some reason the skill setjust not doesn't match where my
mental state is for that day.
Mentally, I'm like all right,man, you know, we're good, we're

(01:00:02):
there, we're in the zone, andthen the body doesn't mesh with
what the mind wants.
And jujitsu, I'm not a combatsports guy, Matt is.
But it's the same thing.
You can tell your body movethis way, do this, bear this
load, take this impact, prepareto do this.
You can want your muscle memoryto do one thing, but unless you

(01:00:23):
train that body to do what yourmind tells it to, your body's
not going to cooperate.
Your body's definitely notgoing to take punishment.
Your body's not going to.
The central nervous system isgoing to be in shock when it's
given a stimulus that it hasn'tgotten before.
And you're definitely not goingto do that just on the
competition right, Like you'regoing to prepare part of
training.
When we say training, what do wemean by training?

(01:00:44):
What do we mean by physicalconditioning?
When I go in and lift weights,I'm a power lifter.
When I go in and lift weightsand I'm power lifting, you know
you are, you are shocking yourcentral nervous system.
You are giving a new stimulusto your muscles.
Hey, you need to grow right.
And here's why because we'rebreaking it down and you're
telling your body hey, we needour muscles bigger, because

(01:01:06):
we're constantly working tofatigue, we're working to muscle
failure.
We're sending the neural we'redeveloping the neural pathways
in our nervous system and fromour brain to tell our body, hey,
we're weak, we need to bestrong.
And providing the food and restand everything is there in the
recovery you will theoreticallyI mean, depending on how good

(01:01:27):
your genetics are yeah, you'regoing to get bigger, You're
going to grow back bigger.
And that's how that training is.
You're going to get your buttkicked a dozen times, but on
that 13th time, man, it's likewe've learned some mistakes.
We've learned, we've masteredthis technique.
We've mastered this.
We've we've hardened our bodies, we're, we've, we've done our
cardio.
We've gotten better at cardio.
We don't get winded as easilyand guess what?

(01:01:49):
You become harder and harder tobeat as you learn more.
You progress as as a fighterand you get better.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
That's right and you nailed it.
I mean, the only way to do itis to redline.
We call it redlining.
You take your body to the redline.
You know, when I'm doing likemy high intensity training, I'm
spending 45 minutes in zone four, which is pretty high to stay
for an extended amount of time.
You're going into zone five,zone six, for, you know, three

(01:02:18):
or four minutes at a time, thenbacking back down.
But when your rest zone is zonefour, you're going to grow,
your cardiovascular strength isgoing to grow, your cardio in
general is going to grow, butit's a very uncomfortable place
to be.
You know it is a veryuncomfortable place to be.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
And truth be told dude, right, like okay, could.
Could some of matt's studentscome in in the gym and do a 500
pound squat?
Maybe, not probably can I?
Can I squat 500?
Yes, I can squat 500, but thoseare two different things.
Now, can I get winded for 45minutes?
That's a different story now.

(01:02:57):
Like you know, that cardio I'mtelling you, getting in zone 4,
or 45 minutes of zone 4 cardio,you're burning 1500 calories.
Yeah, that's not easy, you know.
So those are two differentstimulus, there are two
different things that you, thatyou are training your body to do
.
And the fact is, like me, as apower lifter, not to get into
this, because I'm actually gonnahave my trainer come in, do a

(01:03:17):
podcast with us.
He's going to be one of ourfirst guests, by the way.
Uh, you know, we're going tohave pit come in and we're going
to talk about all this stuff.
So I don't want to get into thisin today's show because we're
ending today's show, but I'lljust end by saying that you know
, yeah, should you do cardio asa power lifter?
Yeah, you should be doing somecardio, but if you're doing
power lifting at a high level,it is damn cardio, cause, trust
me, you get winded, your heartrate is up and if you take

(01:03:41):
shorter rest periods in betweenyour sets, let's say that you're
doing like if my max deadliftis 540 or 520, and let's say I
go in and hit reps for 275.
Well, 275 is still a lot ofweight.
Even for people that thataren't used to deadlifting, even
275 is a lot.
It's a lot yeah but.
If I'm going and hitting 275 forfive by fives but I'm only

(01:04:03):
resting like 45 seconds inbetween each set.
That's gonna smoke you, trustme.
Your heart rate's gonna be 145155 and you're gonna be smoked.
It is cardio.
Weightlifting is definitely ata higher level.
It can.
It can get you into.
And then the, the uhbodybuilding guys.
You know they do more of thatkind of circuit training where
you get your heart rate up andyou keep it there and they're

(01:04:25):
doing weightlifting but they'redoing like lots of volume with
lower weight and they're keepingthe heart rate up.
They're not resting a lot inbetween sets.
You know they're getting inthere and they're they're
knocking it out and they'rekeeping that heart rate high.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Yeah, they're doing like 30 second rests.
Oh god, yeah, it's prettybrutal, it sucks and that, uh,
sherm.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
That's how sir michael works out.
He does a lot of that circuittraining you know, and he's fit,
but dude, it sucks.
That's how I do it, like itroyally sucks I get in there my
workout.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
You know my split is monday, wed, friday, three-day
split.
My workout will probably takeabout 45 minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
But that's a hell of a 45 minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Beginning to end 45 minutes.
You're taking 30-second pausesin between.
Right, but get in, get out boom.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
See my workout's two hours.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Now am.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
I going full bore for two hours?
No, I'm not.
You know, on the heavier liftsI might take a five-minute break
in between sets but you'relifting like double the amount
of weight Right.
So it's all relative, y'all youknow, and I guess that's an
important thing we're going totalk about it in more detail
when we have Coach Pitt here.
But it is crazy how I mean Ithink the other day I did, when

(01:05:39):
I did heavier weights on squats,I think I was doing 475 for
five by fives.
And you know, yeah, in betweenthose sets I'm going to sit down
for four or five minutes.
Yeah, I'm going to look at myphone for a minute.
I'm going to drink some water,chill, let my heart rate get
back down, and then we go in andhit that work again.
But that's still if you do fiveby fives.
That's still if you do five byfive.
That's 25 reps of 475 yeah, bro,I mean that's a lot of damn
weight lifting, you know, andand you get a certain type of

(01:06:02):
strong.
It may not be that cardiovascular strong like you are,
but it's definitely a corestrength that like I would be
curious.
I think one day I should come upand do some jiu-jitsu training
with you guys like maybe on aweek that I'm taking a week off
for deload or I'm not workingout for a week, like maybe my
trainer's on vacation and I havea whole week of nothing.
Maybe I'll come in and do sometraining now, don't kill me, no,

(01:06:25):
but I would love to come in andlike kind of see how that
crossover is, because I have aridiculously strong core and I
have ridiculously strong legsand I think it'd be really cool
to see, like, how I would farein some of that stuff because
you gotta have strong legs to dojujitsu right.
You have a strong core becausearen't you kind of is it like
grappling where you're?

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
kind of down on the ground a bit.
It's grappling, but it's.
It uses a lot less muscle thanyou think really, but I'm not a
technique.
It's 100 technique, but don'tget me wrong, being strong
matters and it does help.
Dude, it'll be fun, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
I don't want to do anything crazy, but just give me
a crash course on jiu-jitsu.
Wouldn't that be fun?
Yes, all right, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
You heard it here.
I'm going to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
I'm going to get in the ring.
Don't kill me now.
Okay, I'm old, I'm going to getbroke.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
That's.
I ain't looking to have thathappen to me.
That was bad.
I'll take care of you, man.

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