LLP Ep131: America's Fetish With War

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The dollar isn't backed by gold anymore—it's backed by America's ability to wage war. This sobering reality forms the foundation of our deep dive into what we've termed "America's fetish with war" and how it shapes our economy, society, and global standing.

Taking you through America's near-constant state of conflict since World War II, we trace how our national identity has become inextricably linked to military power. From Korea to Vietnam, the Middle East and beyond, America has spent far more time at war than at peace. But why? The answer lies in the uncomfortable reality of how our economy functions—war is profitable for those at the top while ordinary Americans struggle.

We explore the military-industrial complex as not just a warning from Eisenhower but as the fundamental business model of modern America. When we send "aid" to countries like Ukraine, that money largely flows to American defense contractors who then donate to political campaigns, creating a self-perpetuating cycle that demands perpetual conflict. Meanwhile, approximately 17% of Americans report not having enough food to eat.

The influence of foreign lobbying groups raises further questions about American sovereignty. When politicians receive substantial donations from organizations like AIPAC, whose interests are they truly serving? And why are these legitimate questions so often met with character attacks rather than substantive debate?

As you listen, consider the words of Smedley Butler: "War is a racket." Whether you're a veteran, a patriot, or simply someone concerned about America's future, this episode challenges you to question whether our national addiction to conflict serves the American people or merely enriches those who profit from bloodshed. Subscribe now and join the conversation about what America could be if we redirected our immense resources toward prosperity rather than perpetual war.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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content coming up on that frontas well.
So stay tuned for that.
And today's episode here on LOP, we're going to be talking
about America's fetish with war.
Oh boy, we're going to go downa very deep and dark rabbit hole
.
And I hope that you'll join usfor this departure into

(01:14):
debauchery.
I mean look, I get it, butthere's some things we're going
to talk about that might beunsettling for some and maybe
even unsettling for ourselves.
We're going to talk a littlebit about the way the economy is
right now, a few things likethat.
So you know, it's going to be avery deep discussion.
It'll be a lot of fun.
So we're going to get into thisand it's been a great week.

(01:37):
Everything's coming together,no major complaints here.
But you know, matt suggestedthis subject matter and I
thought, wow, this is going tobe an interesting one to tackle.
When we talk about America'sfetish with war, it's a subject
matter that brings a lot ofthings to mind.
I mean, when we think about thedollar as a currency, it really

(02:00):
is backed up by our ability tocarry out violence, and I know
that's a hard thing to accept.
You know, it's been years sincewe gotten off the gold standard
, you know, and and now it'slike we jokingly call the dollar
the war buck, call it war bucks.
You know, it's just crazy tothink that.

(02:21):
You know, we have a verypowerful military, a very
capable, technologicallyadvanced military with probably
the best capabilities to fightanywhere in the world at any
time of anyone, which gives uscertainly an interesting playing

(02:42):
field to operate from.
What are some of America'sother advantages that we have?
Well, one we have history and aheritage of brave fighting men
who win wars.
I mean, we may not always win,but we dang sure fight and it's
going to change something, right.

(03:02):
So we have a long history ofmilitary service and it goes
back a long way.
You know we have a very richmilitary culture, you know.
So it is ingrained in oursociety.
We support military and allthat sort of thing, and you know
, very patriotic Patriotism isstrongly ingrained into American
culture.
So therefore, military serviceis strongly ingrained into

(03:24):
military culture.
Some of the other things that wehave at our advantage as a
country is our geographicalisolation.
We're very strategicallyisolated, which gives us the
ability to pretty much pick onanybody we want, as much as we
want.
Really, short of something verydrastic, there's not a heck of

(03:46):
a lot they can do about itEconomically.
We've got a lot of pokers and alot of fires.
So as a country, we also have alot at stake in terms of having
many a hand and many a pot andmany a coin, changing many a
pocket, and that has a tendencyto greatly affect our you know

(04:09):
relationships that we have withvarious countries in terms of
our diplomatic relations withcertain countries.
A lot of countries rely on usfor a wide variety of different
things, such as food andresources.
We rely on other countries, sothere's sort of a mutual trade
that allows us all to functionas a civilized society.
So there's all these things inplay that make America what it

(04:32):
is everything from our cultureof service to our culture of
violence, our ability to carryout violence, and that violence
and that sort of trade minutiathat we go through, and all of
the pockets that we're in andall of the battlefields that
we're on, put us in a veryunique advantage for our
currency to pretty much be acurrency of dealing death.

(04:57):
As much as it's hard to say andit's difficult to come to that
conclusion, that's really whatwe are as a country.
We we just take what we want, Iguess, and we just do what we
want.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well, I would agree, that's and that's the way that
it's been since the beginning.
That's how the country wasformed.
You know we.
We took land essentially, umyeah, via the military, um.
You know the.
The country was unified by war,um and then.

(05:39):
So I would agree.
I think that and it is kind ofa hard subject to discuss
because you're, you know, as a,as a country, we are, you know,
very patriotic.
I have a strong sense ofpatriotism, you know, for my
country, I fought for my country.
I am very proud to be anAmerican and there's no other
place in this world I would wantto be, to be.

(06:01):
But we can't deny the way thatwar, as a country's culture, has
shaped America.
I can't name any other countrythat has been in as many
conflicts as the USA.

(06:21):
Sure, there's countries thathave been in constant conflict,
like one singular conflict.
So an example would be Northand South Korea and America,
technically still at war since1955.
You know, that's just.
They never stopped it.
It's been a DMZ.

(06:42):
They're currently at war, sure,it's not an active kinetic
battlefield, but they're stillat war.
You could say that's true.
America has literally been inand out of armed conflicts
across the globe for the last 40years, 20 years of which was

(07:05):
solely in the Middle East.
Prior to that, you had let'sjust go down the list.
All right, we had, you know,obviously World War II.
Now I'm going to use World WarII because that's literally the
farthest back I can reach.
That's relevant to-.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
People that are still alive.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yes, so you had World War II, all right, boom, and
that very much in and of itself,bombing of Pearl Harbor.
America wasn't going to getinvolved.
I give credit where credit isdue.
America as a country said thatdoesn't pertain to us.
They made the decision to stayout.
They asked for help.
We said no way.
Because of what you just said,eric.

(07:44):
We're very isolated.
We're in a good place.
It's very hard to to get to usand we're not going to go out of
our way all the way to europe.
That's a european issue.
Yeah well, good old japan and wecame here to not be europeans
yeah and uh, good old japaneffed around and found out and
then brought us into the war.

(08:05):
We didn't have a choice.
It's like that cartoon wherethe sharks and the fish he was
like, well, I wasn't going toeat you, but then you punched me
, so now I have to eat you.
So then America went over there, handled business All right.
World War II over Economy waskind of on the up and up.
During World War II you couldsay the economy was good, that

(08:26):
everybody was working, they werebringing women, and that was
when the whole rosie, theriveter thing came along.
You had tons of women enteringthe industrial workforce.
Um, we were producing thingshere, yes, and industry was good
, you had manufacturing good,and then it started to decline
over time.
Do, do, do, do, do.
America got, you know, got goodto us things.

(08:48):
We started outsourcing a lot ofstuff.
Next thing you know economies inshambles.
We need, we need an uplift.
What happens when you, when theeconomy needs an uplift, go to
war?
What happens?
What was the next war?
Vietnam or korea?
Korea was the next war, vietnamor Korea?
Korea was the next war, andthat was a three or four year
war.
Same thing Needed.

(09:10):
The economy was good, needed touplift the economy.
You know, technically the waris still going, but they armed,
they signed a ceasefire.
All right, economies down.
That was 1955.
All right, 1955.
All right, 1955.
Now what's the next war?
Vietnam, the Nam?

(09:31):
Yeah, that was literally like10 years later, not even All
right.
So how you go from World War IIto Korea, we can't even just
chill for 10 years.
Yeah, all right, boom, rightback into it.
I know vietnam, vietnam.
We lose a lot of lives, a lotof americans.

(09:52):
They drafted people like comeon, man, that's like you're just
drafting random individuals toforce them to fight.
We learned a lot from that, bythe way.
So, yeah, then you had vietnam.
Vietnam ended.
We had a little bit of timethere between the 70s and the
80s.
We had a cold war.

(10:13):
That happened, spent a lot ofmoney on the cold war.
Then you had desert storm,desert shield in the 90s and
then getting on into the MiddleEastern conflict.
That was the turning point.
What was it 1993 or 1994.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Pretty much been constant turmoil since.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
And ever since we got into the Middle East man,
that's where we've been, and wejust finished that a few years
ago.
You could even say we're stillgoing, because there's active
operations going on in Syria andAfrica, haiti, somalia and in
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For sure.
So, kind of getting back to thesubject matter at hand, when
we're talking about all theseconflicts we've been in, you
know, you, you lay out this, youlay out this timeline that when
you start to look at it you go,wow, like we've been at war way
longer than we've been at peace.
Oh, a hundred percent.
When we look at the entirebosom of human existence, right

(12:42):
as far back as we can go forrecorded human history, even
right, peace is rare.
In that story, humans, it'slike we've always been
constantly violent and at warand, you know, taking the
resources we want and grabbingthings by the horns.

(13:03):
You know, and is that to saythat that's more about how the
human condition really is?
Like that we're just meant tofight each other.
You know, again, like I don'twant to go down a crazy rabbit
hole, I mean we've got a longtime to talk here but the truth
is, when you're looking at youknow people go, oh well, the

(13:24):
government just releasedinformation about, you know,
extraterrestrial life and UFOs.
And oh, we now know that UFOsmight actually be a thing like
actual, like aliens or someintelligent life somewhere else.
And what I always kind of goback to I think well, if that
were true, and if there weresome intelligent life out there

(13:45):
that was smart enough to knowhow to get here and smart enough
to know who we are and who wearen't, I think the more
plausible question at hand isthey know who we are?
Were floating around in spaceand saw a bunch of little
primates on a rock blowing eachother up and shooting each other

(14:07):
and killing each other anddoing things in the name of god
knows what?
You'd probably want to keepyour distance too, wouldn't you?
So it's like you know, would wewant to be friends with us?
I mean that's if you look atearth as an entity and you know
in their mind, if you land on a,you're going to inevitably have

(14:28):
to come in contact with some ofall of them.
If most of them are a pain inthe butt, you probably just
consider that place dangerous tostop at right.
It's kind of like rolling yourwindows up, going through space.
Like you know, they don't wantnothing to do with that.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Lock the doors when you drop by the planet.
Yeah, yeah, they're going tolock the door on the spaceship
on the way Bill.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
We're passing by Earth, Lock the doors, kids I
mean so is that to say thatAmerica is just an extension of
the greater?
You know, human struggle?
And we're just honest about itand we just do what's necessary
and you know, sometimes the endsjustify the means.

(15:06):
Is that what it is, or has itbecome something more darker and
sinister?
And sometimes you have to kindof look at it from that view,
like maybe it is darker andsinister If the world's
technology, it's the technologywe have available to us now.
We have nuclear power that canprovide clean, cheap power to a

(15:27):
lot of people all around theworld.
We have desalination facilitiesthat can have clean drinking
water for everybody.
When you think about thetechnology we have and how easy
it can actually make for peopleon planet Earth to live well and
I'm not trying to be somehippie here, I'm just saying
yeah, obviously that costs moneyto set all that up.

(15:48):
That money has to come fromsomewhere.
I'm not saying it's kumbaya andit's just some socialist utopia
, not what I'm saying.
But I'm saying that if you havethe means to solve a problem
that can prevent conflict andyou choose not to, then what are
you really trying to accomplishwith that conflict?
Yeah, smedley Butler said war isa racket.

(16:09):
Right, he's right, war is aracket, war is a business.
War is profitable.
And when a country builds theiridentity and their currency and
their trading tendencies andtheir defensive position, and
everything they do as a countryis built upon their ability to

(16:29):
carry out war, well then war isthe product.
We don't have to manufactureanything, we don't have to have
the steel mills open again, wedon't have to have.
You know, the entire countrycan be a concrete jungle that's
devoid of life.
It doesn't matter, because ourproduct is our ability to carry
out violence on the world stage.

(16:50):
That is our product, and Ithink it goes to speak volumes
about our foreign policy, theway that we've handled things.
I mean the founding fathers,george Washington himself, said
that we should avoid, we shouldhave alliances with the outside
world, but we should only tradewith them.
We should avoid having any sortof you know, we shouldn't

(17:12):
really be involved with theoutside world other than trade.
I agree with that.
We've come a long way from.
That country has become now, interms of the military industrial
complex and all the mechanismswithin it, and therein has
become much more of amoney-making um, you know
apparatus and a businessapparatus, rather than simply

(17:35):
just providing for the defenseof the common good right.
The only job the governmentactually has in terms of what
the constitution says is toprovide for the common defense.
That's it.
There's never supposed to beall this taxation and all this
crazy crap and income taxes andall these crazy taxes.
But what it's become is thegovernment has gotten so good at

(17:58):
violence, and violence hasbecome their product, that they
they then turn that violenceinward and they say, well, we're
unstoppable, we've got theultimate Gestapo force that'll
do anything.
We say We've got the heaviest,craziest military.
Well then we'll turn that in onour own people and we'll say,
well, we're going to have thesecrazy damning taxes, we're going

(18:19):
to have crazy inflation, we'regoing to have fractional banking
, we're going to have usury,we're going to allow all the
things that we left Europe toescape from, we're going to
allow that into our back door.
And well, we're so powerful andour product is violence.
No one will oppose us.
The people will just pay whatwe say to pay and they won't say

(18:41):
a word about it.
And I think that's where we'reat.
We've reached a very dangerousstate of affairs where, you know
, the state wishes to have amonopoly on violence.
We've seen a lot of situationswhere you know they try to go
after guns all the time.
There's all the anti-gunpoliticians out here trying to

(19:02):
take your guns away.
You know why would they do that?
What real reason.
If our language is violence, ifour product is violence, then
why in the world would you notwant your country to be capable
of violence?
If you're geographicallyisolated, matt and someone were
to, let's just say, invade,wouldn't you want every swinging

(19:23):
dick to have a gun?
Absolutely I do.
But they don't see it that waybecause they see you as the
threat.
They see you as a potentialthreat to their, to usurping,
their ability to have a monopolyon violence against you, the
citizen, and to have all thesemessed up, drastic life fees

(19:45):
that they've decided to assesson you under force of,
ultimately, the same force thatthey carry out against the world
.
It's true when you come to thatconclusion you almost kind of
hate your government, I mean andthat's the role of the people.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
That's why the second amendment exists is so that if
the government becomestyrannical, you have a way to
reset, for lack of a betterterms.
Oh, the tree of liberty must bewatered, and all that good

(20:23):
stuff.
All of that aside, the peoplethat made the Constitution, the
Founding Fathers, were verysmart in the way that they did
it and they tried to putfail-safes in place because they
know, they knew that, as thesaying goes, that power corrupts

(20:48):
ultimately, or something likethat.
They know that those that arein power won't let go, or they
don't want to, they don't have areason to.
Amendment puts in place a waythat the people have a way to

(21:12):
encourage those that are ingovernment to to listen to.
To go back to what you said,Eric, about you know the whole
manufacturing of of war.
It made me think, just realbriefly, of whole
Israel-Palestine dynamic that'sgoing on and the whole
manufacturing part, and it hasnothing to do with what you
think it does.

(21:32):
There was a report put out bythe doctors that are going over
there to volunteer to help andthey're going into Palestine to
help the men, women and childrenthat are injured.
Obviously there's collateraldamage there and the doctors

(21:54):
said something interesting theywill only allow you to bring
seven pounds of food in perperson.
So if you're a doctor andyou're going in to help, you're
only allowed to bring in sevenpounds of food, and I thought
that's funny.
What's the purpose of that?
Then these doctors are havingto like weigh out their food.

(22:18):
So they're weighing out likeprotein bars and snacks and like
, once you hit that seven poundlimit, that's it, that's all you
can bring.
So I just thought that wasreally interesting, because
you're always hearing reports ofyou know, food being like
mishandled, like food aidpackages being, like you know,

(22:40):
stolen and being hijacked and ina way, you can see that being
kind of like that manufacturedprocess of like hey, if you're
going to come help, you can onlybring in seven pounds of food,
that's just enough for you.
And then they're having report.
The doctors are literallysaying, hey, we're trying to do
surgery, but we're hungrybecause they don't have enough
to eat.
So they're kind ofmanufacturing this scenario of

(23:02):
like, hey, the doctors are thereto help, but they're hungry,
they can't stay that long, youcan only stay for a little bit,
because, hey, your body can onlyfunction so long on
malnourishment, even as a doctor.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
A doctor has to be well-fed.
I mean, you got to be capable.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah.
Then you start seeing like thehey, all right, so how much of
this is actually manufactured?
That's just the way war is,even with the US, a lot of these
stuff.
I know we were talking about alittle bit.
When the economy is down, theyhave to create these scenarios
so that companies can generatemoney.
The companies are generatingmoney.

(23:39):
They're paying taxes.
They're paying the government,the government's paying them.
You know?

Speaker 1 (23:46):
KBR Halliburton all kinds of these companies Kellogg
, brown and Root now look.
So I'm going to be verypragmatic here in this
assessment.
I love my country more thananything in this world.
I don't want anybody to thinkthat I've got some ill will
towards anyone who's involved inthe military industrial complex

(24:08):
.
There's a lot of good peopleout there that work for these
companies.
They're just making productsand they have a job, just like
anyone else.
I'm going to try to be verystraightforward and pragmatic
when I look at the way I'm goingto make this assessment.
But let's take, for instance,this money we send to Ukraine
for the war.
Okay, on one end, this is mebeing fair, this is me being a

(24:31):
strategist, this is me being thepresident.
Whatever, hey, put me in aposition of power and give me
the keys and say drive the shipto the best of your ability.
This is just me being asopen-minded as I possibly can be
, even though, yeah, I have anopinion about what we should do
or not do more, about what weshouldn't do.
I don't think we should besending them a damn dime.
But I'm trying to be pragmatichere.

(24:55):
Two or three things areessentially accomplished in this
proxy.
So America has been involved inproxy wars.
And if you don't know what thatis, it means, hey, our hands
are in the pot.
We're sending labor materials.
We're sending, you know, prettymuch everything except soldiers
to this fight and we're sort ofthe pocket man.
You know, you provide thesoldiers, you provide the labor.

(25:17):
We're going to give you thetools to do the job.
We're going to help you, we,you provide the labor.
We're going to give you thetools to do the job.
We're going to help you.
We're going to providelogistics, support, any number
of other things, maybe eventraining, anything but actually
having boots on the ground inthe trenches doing the fighting.
That's what a proxy war is, anda proxy war is essentially an
investment.
Right Like you're supportingthis country in the name that,

(25:37):
yes, maybe some return will comeof it.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Mineral rights.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
They win the war.
You get mineral rights, oildrilling rights, export rights
for grain and food.
You know, because Ukraine is abreadbasket, Europe is this huge
farm.
Basically, I mean Ukraine as acountry is a very valuable piece
of dirt.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
And interest rates on loans that we've given them for
the summer Right.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
I mean, you have to the west of Ukraine.
You have a very mountainousarea and it essentially goes out
into this just big open fieldbefore you get to Russia, and
that's why the Germans had somuch of a hard time in World War
II.
Now, when they let that dam goin Ukraine, all right, and it

(26:25):
flushed out a whole bunch ofcrap in that basin or whatever,
it dug up a whole bunch of oldfighting positions and what do
you think?
Was there?
Nazi helmets and Nazi soldiers,I mean.
So they've been fighting overthis piece of dirt for some time
.
This isn't anything new, and Ithink people seem to get it in
their head that, well, russiawent in and had this act of

(26:46):
aggression.
Yeah, they did, but these sonsof bitches have been at each
other's throats since 2016.
This isn't anything new.
It just it's what the mediadecides to go.
Here's your new new.
Here you go and they push it toyou.
And now it's in the forefrontbecause we're involved in it.

(27:12):
Again, looking at thispragmatically, pragmatically, if
you consider Russia to be somegreat geopolitical enemy, would
you rather commit Americanforces to fight them or commit
someone else's kids to do it?
American forces to fight themor commit someone else's kids to
do it Again, I don't agree withit, but I'm just trying to look
at it as open-minded as I can.
I'm trying to put myself in themindset of what our leaders may
be thinking.
Well, obviously, if we canstill have the financial gain of

(27:35):
greasing the palms, of greasingthe wheels, and then not have
to lose any american lives,which would would be a very
unpopular thing right now witheverything that's going on you
imagine how unpopular anotherwar would be right now extremely
unpopular.
Do you think that all thisanti-war protester in vietnam

(27:57):
was bad?
I think.
Now there's people.
There's people protesting andwe're not even involved directly
in the war.
We're sending whatever aid toIsrael.
We're sending aid to Ukraine.
It's just aid.
It's like things that we'reproviding war implements.
Now again, getting to bulletpoint number two.
Bullet point number one is wedon't have any skin in the game

(28:19):
in terms of having Americanlives at direct risk.
Two okay, are we actually justsending sackfuls of money to
them or are we sending themweapons?
A lot of it is sending weapons.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Right.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Who's making the weapons?

Speaker 2 (28:37):
American companies.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
We are.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yep Raytheon.
So is the money really goingover there?

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Who's making the weapons American Company?
We are Yep Raytheon.
So is the money really goingover there?
I mean, someone at Raytheon isdoing well, someone at Boeing is
doing well.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Whoever I guess Raytheon's the ones making all
the artillery shells.
They do a lot of missiles likeballistics.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, I mean someone's making artillery
shells Yep.
Someone's making missiles.
Someone's making missiles,someone's making planes,
someone's making sightingsystems, someone's making guns,
someone's making ammo hey, thosepeople are doing well.
Someone is getting paid.
Now is that to say at somegreater level, that are the

(29:18):
politicians palms gettinggreased as well?
Now, could that become aconflict of interest, where
these politicians are voting, ordeciding, rather, what aid to
send, where and where toallocate this, where to allocate
that?
Is that to say that there's notsome special arrangement that's

(29:39):
been made?
You know, oh, hey, buy thesestocks, wink, wink.
And I think that's whereAmericans have a disconnect with
what's going on, with thesesituations.
It's not that the end result ofthese proxies are bad for
America, but it's the optics,and I think the optics have
never been more visible toaverage Americans on a

(30:00):
day-to-day basis than they arenow.
And I think it's not even somuch that the end result is
something we can't live with.
I think it's that Americans arepissed that these people are
all grease in their palms and itjust has an air of dishonesty
and corruption and ultimately,you know, they have blood on

(30:21):
their hands and I think a lot ofpeople morally take issue with
us being involved in those sortsof things Like it's blood money
to a lot of people.
Now, logistically, if you'rerunning a country, that you are
a leader of a country, well then, look, you know you got to do
what you got to do Eithersurvive two more generations,

(30:44):
three more generations, or die,die off.
It's like those kinds ofdecisions have to be made by
somebody you know and eventuallysomeone has to decide that it's
going to be someone else's kidsinstead of ours, and that's not
an easy decision to make.
So I'm trying to be pragmatic.
I have my views, I have myopinion on what we should do.
I have my morals and myprinciples telling me, hey, what

(31:06):
we should do versus what weshouldn't.
I'm trying to be pragmatic andlook at this just in a very
open-minded way of why would ourfuture as a country be so
ingrained in warfare and why isit so important to us?
It seems to be continuouslyimportant.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
I would say that it's because it's something that
we're very, very good at.
Because of the last 40 years ofbeing at war or in conflict, I
can say without a doubt we arethe best fighting force when it
comes to being able to deploy avery large amount of troops

(31:55):
overseas.
What they did I will say whatthey did in the Middle East was
absolutely insane.
The level of which you can getthat much infrastructure
deployed was crazy.
They put the concrete barriersup, they put the HESCOs up.

(32:15):
They built dude.
We would go to some of these uhbases in Iraq and they would
have full blown PXs like Walmartsuper centers where you can
walk in and it's like a actualbuilding in the middle of a
desert.
The way that you can get somany troops over there that fast

(32:39):
.
The infrastructure power I meanwe talk about KBR and a lot of
these companies it's adouble-edged sword, because I
did appreciate having a hotshower whenever we got one.
I did appreciate having laundryservice, a hot meal yeah, I
appreciate being able to walkinto a defect whenever we were

(33:01):
on a base that you know had anice defect and being able to
get a meal.
Those were good things.
Now I don't know how much theypay.
I think there was estimates ofwhere they were just paying,
like the government was payingastronomical amounts of money
for this.
But at the same time you're inthe middle of the desert and
you're able to drop your laundryoff and pick it up the next day

(33:24):
and it's like folded, starched,pressed.
I'm like, hey, I got a cleanuniform.
I'm not stuck in this salty,stained uniform for the next
week.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Imagine the logistics that go in to having a Taco
Bell or KFC.
I mean, like some posts wouldhave Taco Bell.
I think it was Camp.
Adder we would go there andthey having a Taco Bell yeah.
Or a KFC.
I mean, like some posts wouldhave Taco Bell yeah.
I think it was Camp Adder.
We would go there and they'dhave Taco Bell and of course
people get off their stick.
The first thing sons of bitchesdo is go to that Taco Bell
They'd be lying.
I mean, like everybody want aTaco Bell, but imagine the

(33:53):
logistics of making a Taco Bellin the middle of that place, the
Burger King and selling it forthe price of a Taco Bell.
I guarantee you that ain't thereal price.
They're subsidizing the cost ofthat Taco Bell.
It's more for morale at thatpoint.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
That's what it was.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
It was morale when you look at it from that
perspective and you understandit.
At that greater perspective,you then become a master of war
when you realize that war is notabout who is the bigger badass.
War is about who commands thelogistics.
Logistics do not win wars,logistics is war.

(34:30):
Yep, whoever has the bestlogistics in place is absolutely
going to be pressed to have thebetter advantage, especially in
modern war.
I mean, oh my God, don't evenget me started on drones.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Those drones are some royally scary shit it is.
And just to back up real quick,there is nobody better at
logistics in the war thanAmerica.
They've proven it time and timeagain Because, think about it,
every single war we've been inwe've had to deploy.
We've never fought outside ofour civil war, we've never

(35:08):
fought on our own land.
We've had literally deployhundreds of thousands of
personnel to other countries anddo so in a very rapid rate.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Nobody does it better than us.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Nobody, nobody.
And that's unfortunately thereason that America keeps doing
it is because we're so good atit and we make it look easy,
like we, we.
I think, wow, what was it?
There was, there was, I thinkit was like even Russia and
ukraine.
They can't even get vehiclesacross a border on land as fast

(35:43):
as we can get them in the airand like dropped into another
country.
It's crazy, isn't that wild.
We made it look so easy thatother countries try it and they
realize how hard it is and theygo holy crap, it's hard fighting
a war, yeah, yeah, when you'renot pract, when you're not well
versed in it and napoleonbonaparte said that an army
marches on its stomach.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
And we always go back .
We say the same beans andbullets.
You've got to be able to keepup with the apparatus of war.
And you know, yeah, you can puta bunch of dicks in one place,
but if you can't feed them,clothe them, heal them when
they're sick, help them whenthey're hurt, keep their guns
running, keep their equipmentrunning, keep fuel running, all
that, all of the minutia of war,what actually allows us to

(36:27):
handle the logistics?
What do you got?
You have a liability.
And when we look at the latestages of the Roman Empire, it
was the same thing.
The Roman Empire was stretchedso thin and soldiers just
started abandoning their posts.
They were without pay, withoutclothing and weapons, without
food, without shelter, like thehell with it Going to go home or

(36:50):
do whatever.
Because eventually things gotto a point where people woke up
and Rome just wasn't Romeanymore and they're like well, I
guess, so I guess we're hangingit up Like one day it just kind
of flipped the switch.
You know, I don't want to saythat America is in a similar
phase of like the late stages ofthe Roman Empire.

(37:12):
I don't really feel like we'reat that.
I think we're at the danger ofbecoming to that point where we
see the bleeding of the coffers.
You know there's so muchbleeding of the coffers going on
, there's so much corruption andspending and we're spending
money we don't have and we'recontinuing to kick that can
fiscally down the road.
And I suppose that's a good wayto sort of segue into the way

(37:36):
the economy is right now and theeconomy and our overall
financial situation as a country.
And when I say as a country,okay, yes, the amount of debt
that the country actually has.
And let's just say what money isworth now, what the dollar is
worth, the buying power of thedollar, not really what it's
worth, because on paper a dollaris a dollar, but a dollar isn't

(38:00):
a dollar.
Now, is it Matt?
I mean a dollar is only worthwhat it's buying power, what it
can actually do, what can youbuy with it, what can you
convert that dollar into?
It's a deep rabbit hole and I'mnot going to claim to be the
most well-versed economist inthe world.
I will never claim to be themost well-versed war expert in

(38:25):
the world, but I don't think ittakes an expert to look at what
goes on a daily basis ineveryone's everyday life.
And when you turn on the newsand the government, especially
people in the government, isn'tit funny how you turn on Fox
News and it's people from thegovernment Like well, wait a
minute.
And they all want to talk about, oh, the economy's booming,
it's doing this, you know?

(38:46):
The whatever index is up,amount of points, stock markets
Well, yeah, when the stockmarket is doing well, it just
means all of y'all are doingwell.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
That's really the end , all do all.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah, okay, the stocks and things like that, all
of the trading being up mightbe an indication of the economy
doing well.
But yeah, that's for the top,the top.
What about the everyday personwho's just struggling to make
ends meet?
Is the economy good for them?
Are things really doing wellfor them?

Speaker 2 (39:20):
I would say no, it's rough man.
And the people that control theeconomy and I use that term
control loosely, it's really thepeople that manipulate and
dictate the economy are the onesthat are in office right now,
and it's funny that youmentioned about you know, those

(39:40):
that are in power are kind ofdictating, um, where the economy
goes as well, and, not to soundcliche, but it kind of reminds
me of that movie 300, um, so,like america's army we've become
and this has nothing to do withlike the whole, like spartan
like thing.
No, it's just like.
It's just a, I guess, ametaphor.

(40:03):
America has become so good atwar that we can kind of do what
we want.
We feel like we can do what wewant and for, for all intents
and purposes, we can, um, andthen, like you know, when
another country says, hey, if we, you know, and then that saying
of that King Leonidas is likeif, like, if you do, it'll be

(40:27):
interesting.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
But on the movie 300, it was about a corrupt senator
and he's kind of pushing anagenda of like what he wants and
that's how I feel it's goingdown right now.
There's a lot of people inoffice senators, house reps that
are pushing an agenda,regardless of what it may be,

(40:53):
but there's so many PACs and somany interest groups that are
involved that they're feedingmoney into this apparatus, into
this military industrial complex, let's just say, and this money
is coming from everywhere.
And this really was surprisingto me because there's one guy
that I keep up with on Facebookthat he is a quintessential

(41:19):
Democrat.
He's a good friend of mine, weare friends of all people here.
I don't judge, I don't base myfriendship based on your
political views.
I think that people cancohabitate.
I think that people can getalong and have discourse even
though they're not 100% inagreement with how their
political beliefs are.
But he's always posting stuffand I'm like all right, cool.

(41:40):
But he posted something theother day that was very
noticeable and I use that termon purpose because it was about
a lot of the.
It was literally a list ofDemocrat senators and house reps

(42:00):
that took money from um like aisraeli, a pack yes dude yeah
and like crazy isn't it, dude?
and it was like dollar amounts,like hey, this, this person took
47 000.
This person took, like I'm like250,000 bucks.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
I'm like you know holy crap.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
These, like senators, are and people are making money
off of this right and they'rebasing their way that they lean
and they're basing theirmessages off of that money and
that's that I saw that I waslike this is like a movie, like
this is crazy right you.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
I'm glad we're going to talk about this.
I didn't know if AIPAC wasgoing to come up or not.
And look, there's a lot ofpeople that accuse me of many
things, and some of those thingsare true.
You know, some of the thingsthat people say about me they're
true and sometimes they're not.
But I think that also, whattends to go by the wayside with
people's opinion about mespecifically, is where my intent

(43:03):
is, where my heart is.
No one ever cares to ask youwhere your heart is.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
They just assume.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
All they know is their projection of the way they
are, and they're going to usethat projection to just paint
you.
And that's a Marxist tactic.
Look, a Marxist tactic is toaccuse the opposition of what
you're doing, and that's atactic that the Israelis use.

(43:33):
I mean, if it's one thing thatI can say that they have
mastered very much, is themisinformation campaign, the art
of espionage.
They're very good at gettingdirt on people.
They're very good at the spygame.

(43:54):
You know, they're very good atfinding the kinks in the armor.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Okay, why?

Speaker 1 (44:00):
they're very good at finding the kinks in the armor,
okay, why invade a country?
Why actually put boots on theground and invade a country If
you can simply just find theways to pull the levers of the
mechanism to move the countrythe way you want it to?
So in that way, they're verybrilliant.
They have, they've posedthemselves very efficiently to

(44:22):
be the power behind the throne,and I think that it's a very
scary situation.
When you now look, let's say,look, israel becomes the
punching bag in this argument.
You know all the time,no-transcript, they're a

(45:07):
platform that is pro-Israel.
Okay, remove Israel from thatsituation and let's say make it
any other country, make it, Idon't know.
Pick a country that we getalong with really well, I don't
know.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Say Philippines, yeah , say, and Taiwan and China.
It could be anybody.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yeah, it could be All right.
Let's use China as an example.
Say that there were a ChinesePAC that influenced heavily 85%
of the government to bepro-China, and say that every
time you turn on the news, therewas a politician talking about
how we should support China, weshould this and this and this,

(45:43):
and China, china, china, china,china, china.
After a while, you'd be like,wait a minute, this is America.
What about America?
So wait a minute.
Do I have to send my money toyou and do I have to have an I
don't know an American PAC andsend you a whole bunch of money
from Americans that areconcerned about and we live here

(46:05):
and we vote?

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Also called a PAC.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah, I mean it's crazy to think that a country as
small as them can have so muchinfluence and so much power over
American enterprise, Americaninfrastructure, American foreign
policy.
It seems odd.
It's odd, Matt it is very odd.

(46:33):
If you call out that it's odd,you get accused of being
anti-Israel or being anti-Semiteor whatever they call it Nazi.
They're going to come up withwhatever evil term that they can
slander you with, but theynever go back to the argument at
hand and explain and put mymind at ease as to why that's

(46:56):
okay.
No, no, no, no, oh no, we'vedone nothing wrong.
It's you who are wrong, but isit?
But is it, but is it?
All I'm saying is it's curiousand I have questions.
You have questions, I havequestions and you have questions
I have questions.
People have questions, and whyis it wrong to question why a

(47:20):
group of politicians would havepreference for another country
over mine?
We're not allowed to ask that,Eric.
Why is that offensive to people?
It's a great question.
I just I have questions.
I want to know I don't thinkit's too far outside the bounds

(47:42):
of decency to ask why mypoliticians that are supposed to
be representing me have ahard-on for a country it's not
mine yeah, and that happenedduring.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Same thing happened during uh gosh, what was it
world?
It was like was it charleslindbergh or something?

Speaker 1 (48:00):
was like a big, like that he was like yeah, man,
we're going down the rabbit holehere today.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
They were like very, very pro-communism and like so
much so that they would holdlike speeches on the street
corner and they're likepreaching communism about how
it's so great and I'm like, waita minute, let's not do that.
But how much of that moneygoing to the lobby is our own
money?
How much of that is like we'regiving aid to this country.
They're paying the lobby.
The lobby is then taking thatsame money that we just gave

(48:27):
them and distributing it to ourpoliticians.
I'm like, isn't this a bigmoney laundering scheme?
We're just kind ofredistributing the money that we
gave to you.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Matt, if you quack like a duck, it's probably a
duck man.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Where's.
If it quacks like a duck, it'sprobably a duck man.
You know where's?
Uh, where's the?
What is her?
Lily wong, do you?
Do you remember her?
The, the chinese?
She was running for um office.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
She's a battle axe man yeah yeah, yeah, lily tang
lily yeah yeah, lily tang yeahshe was such a sweet woman I
remember I did an interview withher on the channel and she was
talking about how she came fromcommunism and she had nothing
growing up and it's just such areally awesome story, so it's
like to sort of make somethinggo full circle here, matt.

(49:12):
Yeah people who love freedom andlove the idea of really being
free and working hard towards adream.
You know, it's like this is theplace we all call home, and it
doesn't matter where in theworld we happen to be from.
Of course, we could go intothis crazy long drawn out topic

(49:36):
of immigration and things likethat.
That's not what today's show isabout and things like that.
That's not what today's show isabout.
But it is interesting, matt, toshow that, yes, our country is
comprised of many people.
Lily Williams.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Lily Tang Williams.
Lily Tang Williams, yes.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Our country is comprised of many people who
come here for a better life andbecause they want to make the
place better.
They want to contribute, theywant to see the country do well
and, by proxy, themselves dowell.
I got no problem with that, butit's just so crazy when you
look at the entire geopoliticalmechanism that makes this

(50:14):
country work the way that itdoes.
It is very unique.
Is it flawed?
Yes, is it effective?
One would say yes.
I mean we've done fairly wellfor ourselves as a country.
What's the true cost?
That's my concern.

(50:35):
What's the real cost?
That's, I think, what everyoneshould really be asking
themselves.
What's the cost?
Are we pledging fealty toIsrael?
Do we own them?
Do they own us?
Do we own Ukraine?
Does Ukraine own us?
What the hell's going on?
I think that's all people'smindset.

(50:56):
They just want to know thetruth.
They just want the raw truthand be able to figure out for
themselves what really is goingon in that situation.
And all of a sudden, if youquestion it, you're all of a
sudden this evil person.
I don't buy that, not one bit.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Well, I agree, and I think that that comes with the
territory of America being oneof the youngest countries in the
world.
However, we are the mostsuccessful.
We have one of the highest GDPs, we have one of the best, I

(51:34):
guess, way of life.
I think the only other countrythat is younger than us is, uh,
aritria, aritria, yeah, I thinkthat's.
That's the only country whereare they?
Africa.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
I believe oh, country in africa, oh and it's an
absolute hellhole.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
That's like the.
It's like, uh, it's straightdictatorship.
Like, yeah, media lockdown, youcan't.
There's no media, nothing,nothing.
But I mean, look at how farAmerica has come.
United States of America secondyoungest country, I believe,
most successful republic.

(52:15):
I have no fear of being able togo out and do what I want.
I can say what I want, I can dowhat I want.
That's within the legal law ofyou know, hey, we're not going
to go out and just like startshooting.
Yeah, I mean, you know, as longas there's limits, yes, but then
you look around and you seelike and this blew me away Like,

(52:37):
there's like video of likeUkraine where, like they,
they're black bagging militaryage men to go fight a war.
I'm like yo, they're straightkidnapping them off the streets
Some pretty dark stuff.
Yo, that's crazy, that's dark,yeah, and the moms are trying to
hold on to their kid and theGestapo's over there pulling
them into the car.
I'm like, okay, at least.

(53:07):
I mean I'm not condoning thedraft but at least the draft.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
they weren't like black bagging people and pulling
them in.
You know, it was just like hey,go fight or else.
At what point does everydaylife become slavery?
I mean, I think that's also thethin line that we have to
really be careful about as acountry.
At what point do you becomenothing more than a wage slave,
paying taxes to the beast sothat a few people on top can

(53:28):
make all the money?
I mean, I'm sure the militaryindustrial complex is doing
quite well.
I've got no problem with that,that's fine.
You know the capitalist in aperson would say well, if you
can't beat them, join them,we'll start your own company, or
do this or do that, or go get ajob for that company, work for
that company and things arealways going to be well.
But it's like if thepoliticians are getting their

(53:51):
palms greased to see it throughpolicy wise, that we stay
involved in perpetual war orproxy war or involved somewhere
so that the checks to themilitary industrial complex keep
flowing well, the industrialcomplex making a ton of money,
politicians getting their palmsgreased who's paying for it all?
We're working our butts off,struggling, some people are

(54:14):
struggling and a recent um, arecent poll that I saw 17
percent of amer Americans do notthink they have enough food to
eat.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Yeah, man, that's crazy.
That's a very in the grandscheme of things, in the total
population, that is extremelyhigh.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Now, I promise you, none of those people work for
our government.
No, I guarantee their kidsaren't doing without anything.
I guarantee you, their kids arein the finest schools and
they're driving fancy cars andwearing the nicest clothes and
going on three vacations a year,maybe a vacation every month,
for all we know.
And I'm not saying that successis simply a measure of, oh,

(54:54):
this person is doing better thansomeone, so therefore we should
just not like them for thatreason.
No, no, no, that's not what I'msaying.
Hey, I love success.
Not like them for that reason.
No, no, no, that's not what I'msaying.
Hey, I love success.
I love that America is a placeof plenty and a place of ample
opportunity for people to seetheir dreams come to fruition,
to build a business, to havepassive revenue streams and not

(55:17):
have to punch the clock.
Eventually, it's a dream to beable to just live and retire and
enjoy your wealth and pass thatwealth on to your family and
build a legacy, and I thinkAmerica is always going to be
the best place to do that.
Absolutely, I will never makeany ifs, ands or buts about that
that America is a land of veryample opportunity.

(55:38):
Matt, I don't have a collegeeducation.
Dude, I should not exist as aperson, but here I am.
I've got this YouTube channeland I found my niche.
I carved my little path, youknow, but I wasn't supposed to
happen.
This was not supposed to happenand it did.
So it's like you know.
America is one of the onlyplaces that that can happen,

(56:00):
where you know you can carveyour own path and, god willing,
if you're lucky enough and youmove your cards in the right
direction, it can pay off.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
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We are reaching the end of theshow and there are so many
things to unpack and we leavequestions unanswered.

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We leave moral quandaries onthe table.
We leave a lot for the listeneror viewer.
If you're here on the channelto take home and go wow, like
you know, look yourself in themirror and just ask what we are,
ask if it's moral, ask if it's.

(58:20):
I mean, winning.
Is winning is moral, is it?
Do the ends justify the means?
I mean, if you would have askedme 20 years ago, well, we were
in war 20 years ago.
It's like we were young kids.
We were impressionable.
Whatever our leaders said, webelieved it as gospel because it
was it.

(58:41):
It's like, as time goes on andmore and more time goes on and
the more and more you learn it'slike it's okay.
I guess all I'm saying is it'sokay to reassess what that is
for you.
We've all done it, yeah, I'msure you've done it, dude.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
I I think about you, know, not to go down that PTSD
rabbit hole, but that's half ofwhat PTSD is growing up and
realizing after you have afamily, after you have loved
ones and after you have a childand you're like man, what you
did when you were younger waslike not cool, like like it's

(59:20):
just, like that's.
A lot of that time is spentreflecting back on your actions
and like how you would havechanged it if you just knew a
little bit more.
And that's that's what you knowbeing that young.
You know infantry, you know kidthat's.
You know the purpose of thatthey choose.

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That's why it's a young man'sgame and I have a lot more
respect.
I specifically remember I havea lot more respect for our, our
like sergeants and our platoonsergeants because they were,
they were older, they werefamily people, they had families
.
And we're always wondering likewhy can't we do this?
Why can't we go?
Well, this is what we'resupposed to be doing.
And they're like no, can't wego?
Well, this is what we'resupposed to be doing.

(01:00:02):
And they're like no man, justchill, like that's.
They had a way differentoutlook on life and they were
just and the value of life andthe value of life than an 18
year old kid.
That was like we're doorkickers and this is why we're
over here and you know, inretrospect you know they had a
much better outlook on what weneeded to do than did as those

(01:00:22):
younger guys.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Well, they certainly had a better outlook on
surviving and living.
I mean if you allowed a war tobe ran by 18-year-olds, we would
just shoot every building wecome to.
It's like I don't know.
It's just that mindset of hecan destroy.
But cooler heads must alwaysprevail.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
I have a lot Looking back on it.
I have a lot more respect forthem, oh yeah, Way more respect
For the restraint that theyshowed.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
I agree, and cooler heads must always prevail.
And I guess all I'm trying toget at in this podcast for
today's show is I mean, are wethe cooler heads, is America the
cooler heads, or are we theagents of chaos?

(01:01:10):
And maybe sometimes both arerequired.
Sometimes you have to be anagent of chaos.
Yeah, it's hard to think of.
To think of that having the.
Is that not God?
Is that not having the power?

(01:01:32):
Of God like playing God to besuch an agent of chaos and you
know, are you okay with it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
I mean, I guess that's kind of wild to think
about.
We'll leave that for theviewers and the listeners, and
if we're ending the show on aquestion, I will end it on a
question as well.
Hit us and this is going backto your statement about a study
showing that 17 or 18% ofAmerica doesn't have enough food
.
I saw a post and this is not anoriginal question, but it's a

(01:01:58):
good question.
I saw a post, and this is notan original question, but it's a
good question.
Hit us.
It was if you force a child tobe in school, shouldn't the
school lunch be free?
If you're making it a legalobligation for your child to be

(01:02:38):
in school, which it is the childhas to go to school or the
parents get arrested, how canyou force them to buy the food
they have to eat to be there?
It's a very interesting questionbecause I am a capitalist.
I think that everybody shouldmake money, but that is a very,
very true question and statement.
It's like you can't force achild to be somewhere and have
legal ramifications if they'renot there and also force them to

(01:03:01):
buy food.
It's like they have to be there.
By law, you must provide them.
Very similar to if you're goingto force someone to be in a
gun-free zone.
You're obligated to protectthem.
I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Wow, that's a very astute observation.
You know I'm sitting herespinning like I have to come up
with an answer because you'veasked this question.
I believe very much in avoluntary society observation.
You know I'm sitting herespinning like I have to come up
with an answer because you'veasked this question and you know
I believe very much in avoluntary society.
You know, I used to not bequite as much that way.
I used to be, like, reallyabout law and order and, you

(01:03:35):
know, very imperialistic, so tospeak.
Like you know, I was very muchabout law and order,
pro-military, pro-lawenforcement, and I still am.
Don't get me wrong Support allthose guys.
They put up with a lot of crapfor us.
You know I get that.
But I do also believe in avoluntary society and I think,
hey, like, maybe a happy mediumin that situation would be make

(01:03:59):
the food free, feed the kids,make sure they you know, no kids
should ever go hungry.
Right Now, they do havesubsidized lunches, they do.
There are subsidized lunchesfor families that cannot afford
to pay for those lunches, okay,fine.
And there are accounts that youcan pay into to help the kids
buy their food Like theyactually have.
You can pay into the lunchaccount for kids.

(01:04:19):
I've seen that and so that is anoption.
So you can pay into the lunchaccount for kids.
I've seen that, so that is anoption.
So, hey, maybe if you're areally wealthy family and you
own a big million dollar,multi-million dollar a year
business, what's 10 grand?

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Tax write-off.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Yeah, write it off and put it in the lunch account.
But make it voluntary.
Hey, you don't have to do it.
Society will alwaysself-marinate, right?
Society will always self-heal.
Things will always happen Likebefore.
We had income taxes.
Now I don't want to get we'rekind of going over on time on

(01:04:54):
the show today but I'll justquickly mention how did we have
roads and infrastructure and allthis before income taxes?

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Smaller government we had, we had more money surplus,
I mean you want to go there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
It's like the, the, the society that we've created
with all this usury andfractional banking and inflation
and all of this controlledchaos.
You know our very government.
They're agents of chaos andthey create the chaos so they
can create the solution.
And, of course, when thesolution drops, it's going to

(01:05:28):
require you to give up something, and that's the game.
That's the game on the inside,and the game on the outside is
our war game, and that's how weoperate, and the theory, anyway,
is that we all survive wellenough.
But I guess I'm questioningwhat well enough is.

(01:05:49):
What is their definition?
What is their definition ofwell enough?
And are we okay with wellenough?
Right, I suppose that's animportant thing to consider.
It's relevant.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Yeah Well, I guess we'll end this show on Reagan's
famous quote on what's thescariest thing to hear I'm from
the government and I'm here tohelp.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Here to help bitch Yep.
And the older you get, the moreapparent it becomes and the
more your blood pressure rises.
Yep, that's just how that works.
I hope everyone has a fantasticweek and thanks so much for
tuning in If I do my part.
Usually we host the show onMondays around 9 o'clock, If I

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remember to upload the show onSunday night.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
We do our best to remind you, I'm not going to
claim, I always do.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
But I try.
I'm a human being.
I make mistakes like anyoneelse, but thank you all so much
for tuning in.
There's a lot more content onthe way.
I appreciate all the years ofsupport from our viewers, not
only on LLP but on the mainchannel, for all the content
I've been putting out.
I was reflecting on that theother day and for those of you
that are still here, I know thishas been a long show but I

(01:07:05):
might as well ramble a littlebit since we're near the end.
But I was reflecting on thatthe other day that people, a lot
of folks, have supported me forand we put out a lot of content
almost 1500 videos.
That's a lot over the course ofabout 16 years.
So it's just kind of crazy tothink that one day something
becomes a pet project, somethingfor fun, and then one day you
wake up and you realize it wasyour living for 16 years and
it's like where does time go?
And maybe that's what ourcountry, maybe our country is a

(01:07:28):
reflection of that, that we gotso used to that way of life that
we just accepted.
That's who we are and maybethat's the simple answer.
Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Very well could be.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
I'm here for it anyway, so have yourselves a
great week.
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