May 13, 2025 • 15 mins
From Yosemite run-ins with the highway patrol to six-foot flames caused by DIY fire starters, this episode covers the real-life risks of venturing into nature and how to prep like a pro... even if you’re just going for “a quick hike.”
Jimmy and Megan talk trail safety, packing tips, camping fails, and how to purify water with everything from iodine tablets to French-press-style filters.
Whether you’re heading into the backcountry or just camping with the kids, we’ve got you covered with gear, guidance, and cautionary tales to help you stay safe outdoors.
Bonus: the bleach-to-water ratio for emergency purification (yep, Megan did the math).
Life Safety Associates specializes in emergency response training for corporate ERT Teams. We help businesses create competent and confident first responders who are ready to handle unexpected emergencies. For more information you find us @lifesafetyassoc or email@lifesafety.com.
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Jimmy (00:00):
What's happening?
It's Jimmy with your girl Megs.
Megan (00:04):
Hello.
Jimmy (00:05):
With another life and safety podcast.
Today we're talking about thegreat outdoors, one of my
favorite subjects.
I don't get to go out theremuch anymore, pretty much
because I'm just lazy.
I guess I definitely enjoy theoutdoors.
What about you, megs?
Do you like going outside?
Megan (00:24):
I do.
I do like going outside as sameas you.
I don't do it as often anymore,but I enjoy it.
I'm actually going out toYosemite soon.
Jimmy (00:33):
Nice.
Megan (00:34):
I'm excited.
Jimmy (00:36):
Yosemite's awesome.
When I was younger they used tohave a volunteer program there
in Pinnacles.
When I was a youngwhippersnapper seasonal guy, I
would go work there one day amonth and I would just basically
get a rope bag and it'sliterally just a bag with rope
and like some medical stuff init and a radio and at both parks
(00:59):
and I would just go hike atrail and they'd give me hours
as volunteer time, which Ineeded for firefighting stuff.
Mm-hmm, to get a.
Yeah, it was really cool.
It was really cool.
I haven't been to Yosemite,though, in a little while.
Last time we were there, it wasCOVID time and we they weren't
(01:23):
going to let us in, unlessbecause we had a reservation.
I don't remember what I said orhow I said it, but I was able
to talk us in.
Megan (01:34):
Nice.
Jimmy (01:36):
Because the kids had never been Jenny had never been
so I was able to talk us into it, talk our way in Nice.
We got to, you know, drivethrough down into the valley and
you know, see all of the greatcanyon and beautiful stuff there
, yeah.
And then we were trying to getto the snow because the kids
(01:58):
wanted a sled and the highwaypatrol were closing this road
outside of Yosemite.
And I know a lot of the roadcodes and stuff like that just
from fighting fire and thosekind of things like road
closures.
And I was like, well, what isit?
Is it this code, or is it thisBecause the road's closed and I
(02:20):
don't need chains because I havefour-wheel drive, especially if
it's this rating?
And they were like, if you goup there, we're going to arrest
you.
Then I was like, oh, challengeaccepted, why would you arrest
me?
My kids want to go sledding andthat's where the snow is.
So the outdoors are always funand it's always an adventure.
Megan (02:44):
The important question is did you get arrested?
Jimmy (02:46):
No, no, no.
Jenny and the kids were likeit's not that boring, let's just
get out of here, Because wewere already not really supposed
to be in the Yosemite Valley asit was.
So we found another spot andthe kids had a great time
sledding and stuff like that.
Megan (03:02):
But yeah.
Jimmy (03:08):
So great outdoor safety stuff let's talk about.
You know, um things thatactually I don't like to do, but
I definitely get people love todo it.
It's hiking.
Megan (03:17):
I don't like to hike oh, and yet you spent your free
volunteer time hiking.
Jimmy (03:25):
Yes, understood, and that's why I don't like to hike
now.
Okay, I would hike for exercisein the fire department right at
Cal Fire.
That's what we do.
A lot is hike Hiking inmountains for fires.
Just it took the fun out of it.
Fair, I definitely like seeingthings and if I have to walk up
a little, bit to see.
Megan (03:43):
Took the fun out of it.
Ah, fair.
Jimmy (03:44):
You know, I definitely like seeing things and if I have
to walk up a little bit to seesomething, I'll do it.
But if somebody calls me andsays, hey, let's go for a
five-mile hike tomorrow morningand watch the sunrise, no, nah,
I'm cool, I'm good.
Megan (04:02):
Yeah.
Jimmy (04:03):
Take a picture, send it to me, I'll pretend I was there
with you.
Yeah, but some hiking thingsthat when I worked in Yosemite
and Pinnacles, that people youknow it always kind of not do
very well as planned for it.
What I mean by that is theweather.
(04:23):
You know the pinnacles aresuper hot, a little bit windy in
certain spots, but mostly itwas just hot or really cold
depending on when you went.
And Yosemite is definitely bothyeah, definitely both right.
So and weather changes soquickly in both spots and just
(04:44):
in general outside.
So you have to be prepared andif you're not prepared, you're
not paying attention, you canreally get yourself into trouble
.
So even if you're going on ashort hike an hour or less is
what I would consider a shorthike you know you trip and fall.
That hour is an hour and a half.
(05:07):
You stop and talk to somebody,you stop and take a picture of
the waterfalls or insertwhatever activity you're doing
in that track, in that trek nota track, you're going to be
longer.
Megan (05:21):
Yeah.
Jimmy (05:22):
So always carry at least a day pack, you know regular
small backpack.
I suggest at least oneflashlight, a bottle of water or
two, depending what your hikingand what your fitness thing is
A light jacket.
A light jacket is going to bebetter than no jacket every time
(05:43):
and I always tell people tocarry a be jacket.
A light jacket's going to bebetter than no jacket every time
and I always tell people tocarry a beanie, a wool knit hat,
because if you're going to getcold you lose a lot of your heat
through your head.
Especially me, it's a solarpanel man Keeps me charged.
Those are some basic things.
(06:07):
If you're going on a longerhike and it doesn't matter what
hike I probably should have saidthis first.
Always tell people where you'regoing to park and where you're
going to go, if you can tell thepeople what trail you're going
(06:28):
to be on specifically, and atleast that way somebody has a
good idea of where to look foryou.
Parking's huge because if Itell you I'm going to park at
lot A of this section orcampground, and then at least I
have an idea of where you'regoing to go, because there's
going to be so many trailheads.
Megan (06:44):
Mm-hmm.
Jimmy (06:45):
Right, if you park, you're like, I'm just going to
park on the street next to thismile marker, Okay.
Well, that really makes it hardto set up a search pattern for
you.
It sets up, you know, a gridwhen are you going, where are
you not going?
Yeah, so parking lots are agood idea.
(07:06):
Let people know when to expectyou back, all right.
And you don't have to give anexact time, give a window.
Hey, if I'm not back by 3o'clock, call me, text me.
(07:26):
So if I'm there at 2.30, I'mgood.
If I'm there at 3.15, I'm atthe car.
You text me, I'm going to callyou back.
A lot of people say I don'tlike to do that because I don't
want people to worry.
Well, I'm going to worry moreif I don't see you for four
(07:47):
hours, five hours, unless Iheard you were going to go out
to hike X trail.
Now I know if you're freakingbarefoot or not, right?
So let people know.
Megan (08:00):
Let people know.
Jimmy (08:04):
So those are just a couple of things, a couple
things to kind of keep in mindIf you do go out and you go
camping I know our family likesto do camp we camp at least once
a year.
I think if in a perfect worldwe'd probably camp more than
once a year, but at least once ayear we go camping.
So basic campfire safety rightalways make sure they're ringed,
(08:28):
make sure it goes it's outbefore you leave, um, make sure
you watch things.
Whatever you're doing, you'recooking, um.
So our daughter is a girl andwe were making fire starters
because they were going camping.
So a cool fire starter is usingan egg carton.
Megan (08:53):
Yes.
Jimmy (08:54):
And what do you think put in there?
Megan (08:56):
And lint from the dryer.
Jimmy (08:58):
Yes, and then?
potentially candle wax to makeit all stick and you make it
stick with a candle wax or abirthday candle or something
like that.
You melt a candle in there.
We were using paraffin wax andyou know it's just a big block
and we made it so we could justmake a bunch of them at a time.
And something happened.
W e got distracted and wewalked away and the paraffin wax
(09:20):
actually bubbled up andactually started shooting flame
that's crazy Into the and theparaffin wax actually bubbled up
and actually started shootingflame into the sky and it was
like legit six-foot flame linksinto the sky.
It was awesome.
I'm sure Not the business inthe middle of the forest, but
(09:40):
looking back I was like whoa,that's rad.
And then we ruined the wax andwe couldn't make the stupid Fire
starters.
So pay attention to what you'recooking and warming up right,
you're kicking over an openflame.
You can't adjust the flame aseasy as you do it on the range,
so you may want to make sureright.
So while you're cooking, makesure Wash your hands.
(10:02):
Food safety.
Megan (10:03):
Yeah.
Jimmy (10:05):
Right Wear gloves or just the cross-contamination of
things.
Just you know, be aware of thatstuff you're camping things of
that nature.
It's hard, um, wash bins arepretty inexpensive.
You can take them.
Uh, you go to the dollar treeand just buy a little, you know,
12 inch by 12 inch, 12 tubs, orwhatever they are, and, um,
(10:29):
they might be smaller than that,but you can buy little tubs and
take those and use one for likeI don't know, like your red
meats, things like that.
Use one for fish, one forchicken, um, or whatever you
want to do.
However, you want to do it, butthat's just a suggestion.
Um, hot water, hot wash, warm,you know, disinfectant wash and
(10:50):
then a rinse.
You know that always works goodtoo.
And if you have little peopleyou're out camping with, don't
be afraid to let them wash, butmake sure they understand you
know the dirty to clean process.
Megan (11:05):
It's huge.
Jimmy (11:08):
It's huge.
And then drinking water.
There's lots and lots of things.
It's a safety thing and it'sjust a good idea to have good,
clean water.
And you know there's lots ofthings you can do.
You can do the life straw worksgreat.
There's a couple different umwater compression systems that
(11:30):
look like French press coffeemachines.
Oh, mm-hmm.
You put them in there, then youpush them down and they clean
the water out and then you havea nice, basically cantina water
or a hydroflask or somethinglike that.
What else am I thinking?
They have iodine tabs.
Obviously, in disastersituations you can always or
(11:51):
boil water.
You know you can boil water.
I believe it's a tablespoon ofbleach.
Double clean it, you know, andthen you can always bleach and
that's, I think that's forstorage.
I think that seems too much,though Tablespoon seems a lot.
Megan (12:15):
If you have one gallon of water, eight drops of 6% bleach
or six drops of 8.25% bleach.
So four gallons, a thirdteaspoon of 6% and then a
quarter teaspoon of 8.25%.
Jimmy (12:32):
All right.
Well, at least I had theteaspoon right.
Definitely too much, though,but I mean that'll keep things
clean, right, especially forstorage.
But still boil, Still boilCommunication.
As far as radios go, they havemade great.
(12:53):
Cell phones almost workeverywhere.
Now it's super hard not to findspots now for your phones.
I still know in our countythere's still parks out there
that you don't have cell serviceright.
That's great, especially ifyou're trying to hike and get
away from things and just enjoyyour nature.
(13:16):
Then there's other ways to dothat.
There's lots of handheld familyradios that are super
inexpensive.
You can buy those.
Those have great range.
I think I saw a box of one Ihaven't tested them, I don't
even remember what brand theywere but they said they were
like five miles direct, which ispretty crazy, and three miles
(13:39):
indirect.
So indirect and direct meanslike if you can see the person
like line of sight.
I was like, wow, it's prettygood range.
That might be pretty cool to buyfor, you know, camping or
disaster stuff, because to methey're synonymous.
You can use your disaster stufffor camping and you can use
your camping stuff for disaster.
Um, the garmin mini reach.
(14:02):
It's a cool little uh satellitebased texting system.
But the problem with that youhave to buy a subscription.
You know service for that.
I know people that only pay forthe subscription during the
summer when they hike, and viceversa for people that ski in the
backcountry and stuff like that.
But yeah, so that's just acouple of outdoor things.
(14:23):
You know we're getting to thesummer weather, or summer months
, warmer weather, and we're allgoing to be outside doing things
.
Megan (14:31):
Hopefully.
Jimmy (14:31):
Hopefully.
Megan (14:32):
Get that vitamin D.
Jimmy (14:34):
Yeah, if that's your thing.
Leave some comments below onsome outdoor safety things that
you might want to share with usand peace.
What's happening?
It's Jimmy with your girl Megs.
Megan (00:04):
Hello.
Jimmy (00:05):
With another life and safety podcast.
Today we're talking about thegreat outdoors, one of my
favorite subjects.
I don't get to go out theremuch anymore, pretty much
because I'm just lazy.
I guess I definitely enjoy theoutdoors.
What about you, megs?
Do you like going outside?
Megan (00:24):
I do.
I do like going outside as sameas you.
I don't do it as often anymore,but I enjoy it.
I'm actually going out toYosemite soon.
Jimmy (00:33):
Nice.
Megan (00:34):
I'm excited.
Jimmy (00:36):
Yosemite's awesome.
When I was younger they used tohave a volunteer program there
in Pinnacles.
When I was a youngwhippersnapper seasonal guy, I
would go work there one day amonth and I would just basically
get a rope bag and it'sliterally just a bag with rope
and like some medical stuff init and a radio and at both parks
(00:59):
and I would just go hike atrail and they'd give me hours
as volunteer time, which Ineeded for firefighting stuff.
Mm-hmm, to get a.
Yeah, it was really cool.
It was really cool.
I haven't been to Yosemite,though, in a little while.
Last time we were there, it wasCOVID time and we they weren't
(01:23):
going to let us in, unlessbecause we had a reservation.
I don't remember what I said orhow I said it, but I was able
to talk us in.
Megan (01:34):
Nice.
Jimmy (01:36):
Because the kids had never been Jenny had never been
so I was able to talk us into it, talk our way in Nice.
We got to, you know, drivethrough down into the valley and
you know, see all of the greatcanyon and beautiful stuff there
, yeah.
And then we were trying to getto the snow because the kids
(01:58):
wanted a sled and the highwaypatrol were closing this road
outside of Yosemite.
And I know a lot of the roadcodes and stuff like that just
from fighting fire and thosekind of things like road
closures.
And I was like, well, what isit?
Is it this code, or is it thisBecause the road's closed and I
(02:20):
don't need chains because I havefour-wheel drive, especially if
it's this rating?
And they were like, if you goup there, we're going to arrest
you.
Then I was like, oh, challengeaccepted, why would you arrest
me?
My kids want to go sledding andthat's where the snow is.
So the outdoors are always funand it's always an adventure.
Megan (02:44):
The important question is did you get arrested?
Jimmy (02:46):
No, no, no.
Jenny and the kids were likeit's not that boring, let's just
get out of here, Because wewere already not really supposed
to be in the Yosemite Valley asit was.
So we found another spot andthe kids had a great time
sledding and stuff like that.
Megan (03:02):
But yeah.
Jimmy (03:08):
So great outdoor safety stuff let's talk about.
You know, um things thatactually I don't like to do, but
I definitely get people love todo it.
It's hiking.
Megan (03:17):
I don't like to hike oh, and yet you spent your free
volunteer time hiking.
Jimmy (03:25):
Yes, understood, and that's why I don't like to hike
now.
Okay, I would hike for exercisein the fire department right at
Cal Fire.
That's what we do.
A lot is hike Hiking inmountains for fires.
Just it took the fun out of it.
Fair, I definitely like seeingthings and if I have to walk up
a little, bit to see.
Megan (03:43):
Took the fun out of it.
Ah, fair.
Jimmy (03:44):
You know, I definitely like seeing things and if I have
to walk up a little bit to seesomething, I'll do it.
But if somebody calls me andsays, hey, let's go for a
five-mile hike tomorrow morningand watch the sunrise, no, nah,
I'm cool, I'm good.
Megan (04:02):
Yeah.
Jimmy (04:03):
Take a picture, send it to me, I'll pretend I was there
with you.
Yeah, but some hiking thingsthat when I worked in Yosemite
and Pinnacles, that people youknow it always kind of not do
very well as planned for it.
What I mean by that is theweather.
(04:23):
You know the pinnacles aresuper hot, a little bit windy in
certain spots, but mostly itwas just hot or really cold
depending on when you went.
And Yosemite is definitely bothyeah, definitely both right.
So and weather changes soquickly in both spots and just
(04:44):
in general outside.
So you have to be prepared andif you're not prepared, you're
not paying attention, you canreally get yourself into trouble
.
So even if you're going on ashort hike an hour or less is
what I would consider a shorthike you know you trip and fall.
That hour is an hour and a half.
(05:07):
You stop and talk to somebody,you stop and take a picture of
the waterfalls or insertwhatever activity you're doing
in that track, in that trek nota track, you're going to be
longer.
Megan (05:21):
Yeah.
Jimmy (05:22):
So always carry at least a day pack, you know regular
small backpack.
I suggest at least oneflashlight, a bottle of water or
two, depending what your hikingand what your fitness thing is
A light jacket.
A light jacket is going to bebetter than no jacket every time
(05:43):
and I always tell people tocarry a be jacket.
A light jacket's going to bebetter than no jacket every time
and I always tell people tocarry a beanie, a wool knit hat,
because if you're going to getcold you lose a lot of your heat
through your head.
Especially me, it's a solarpanel man Keeps me charged.
Those are some basic things.
(06:07):
If you're going on a longerhike and it doesn't matter what
hike I probably should have saidthis first.
Always tell people where you'regoing to park and where you're
going to go, if you can tell thepeople what trail you're going
(06:28):
to be on specifically, and atleast that way somebody has a
good idea of where to look foryou.
Parking's huge because if Itell you I'm going to park at
lot A of this section orcampground, and then at least I
have an idea of where you'regoing to go, because there's
going to be so many trailheads.
Megan (06:44):
Mm-hmm.
Jimmy (06:45):
Right, if you park, you're like, I'm just going to
park on the street next to thismile marker, Okay.
Well, that really makes it hardto set up a search pattern for
you.
It sets up, you know, a gridwhen are you going, where are
you not going?
Yeah, so parking lots are agood idea.
(07:06):
Let people know when to expectyou back, all right.
And you don't have to give anexact time, give a window.
Hey, if I'm not back by 3o'clock, call me, text me.
(07:26):
So if I'm there at 2.30, I'mgood.
If I'm there at 3.15, I'm atthe car.
You text me, I'm going to callyou back.
A lot of people say I don'tlike to do that because I don't
want people to worry.
Well, I'm going to worry moreif I don't see you for four
(07:47):
hours, five hours, unless Iheard you were going to go out
to hike X trail.
Now I know if you're freakingbarefoot or not, right?
So let people know.
Megan (08:00):
Let people know.
Jimmy (08:04):
So those are just a couple of things, a couple
things to kind of keep in mindIf you do go out and you go
camping I know our family likesto do camp we camp at least once
a year.
I think if in a perfect worldwe'd probably camp more than
once a year, but at least once ayear we go camping.
So basic campfire safety rightalways make sure they're ringed,
(08:28):
make sure it goes it's outbefore you leave, um, make sure
you watch things.
Whatever you're doing, you'recooking, um.
So our daughter is a girl andwe were making fire starters
because they were going camping.
So a cool fire starter is usingan egg carton.
Megan (08:53):
Yes.
Jimmy (08:54):
And what do you think put in there?
Megan (08:56):
And lint from the dryer.
Jimmy (08:58):
Yes, and then?
potentially candle wax to makeit all stick and you make it
stick with a candle wax or abirthday candle or something
like that.
You melt a candle in there.
We were using paraffin wax andyou know it's just a big block
and we made it so we could justmake a bunch of them at a time.
And something happened.
W e got distracted and wewalked away and the paraffin wax
(09:20):
actually bubbled up andactually started shooting flame
that's crazy Into the and theparaffin wax actually bubbled up
and actually started shootingflame into the sky and it was
like legit six-foot flame linksinto the sky.
It was awesome.
I'm sure Not the business inthe middle of the forest, but
(09:40):
looking back I was like whoa,that's rad.
And then we ruined the wax andwe couldn't make the stupid Fire
starters.
So pay attention to what you'recooking and warming up right,
you're kicking over an openflame.
You can't adjust the flame aseasy as you do it on the range,
so you may want to make sureright.
So while you're cooking, makesure Wash your hands.
(10:02):
Food safety.
Megan (10:03):
Yeah.
Jimmy (10:05):
Right Wear gloves or just the cross-contamination of
things.
Just you know, be aware of thatstuff you're camping things of
that nature.
It's hard, um, wash bins arepretty inexpensive.
You can take them.
Uh, you go to the dollar treeand just buy a little, you know,
12 inch by 12 inch, 12 tubs, orwhatever they are, and, um,
(10:29):
they might be smaller than that,but you can buy little tubs and
take those and use one for likeI don't know, like your red
meats, things like that.
Use one for fish, one forchicken, um, or whatever you
want to do.
However, you want to do it, butthat's just a suggestion.
Um, hot water, hot wash, warm,you know, disinfectant wash and
(10:50):
then a rinse.
You know that always works goodtoo.
And if you have little peopleyou're out camping with, don't
be afraid to let them wash, butmake sure they understand you
know the dirty to clean process.
Megan (11:05):
It's huge.
Jimmy (11:08):
It's huge.
And then drinking water.
There's lots and lots of things.
It's a safety thing and it'sjust a good idea to have good,
clean water.
And you know there's lots ofthings you can do.
You can do the life straw worksgreat.
There's a couple different umwater compression systems that
(11:30):
look like French press coffeemachines.
Oh, mm-hmm.
You put them in there, then youpush them down and they clean
the water out and then you havea nice, basically cantina water
or a hydroflask or somethinglike that.
What else am I thinking?
They have iodine tabs.
Obviously, in disastersituations you can always or
(11:51):
boil water.
You know you can boil water.
I believe it's a tablespoon ofbleach.
Double clean it, you know, andthen you can always bleach and
that's, I think that's forstorage.
I think that seems too much,though Tablespoon seems a lot.
Megan (12:15):
If you have one gallon of water, eight drops of 6% bleach
or six drops of 8.25% bleach.
So four gallons, a thirdteaspoon of 6% and then a
quarter teaspoon of 8.25%.
Jimmy (12:32):
All right.
Well, at least I had theteaspoon right.
Definitely too much, though,but I mean that'll keep things
clean, right, especially forstorage.
But still boil, Still boilCommunication.
As far as radios go, they havemade great.
(12:53):
Cell phones almost workeverywhere.
Now it's super hard not to findspots now for your phones.
I still know in our countythere's still parks out there
that you don't have cell serviceright.
That's great, especially ifyou're trying to hike and get
away from things and just enjoyyour nature.
(13:16):
Then there's other ways to dothat.
There's lots of handheld familyradios that are super
inexpensive.
You can buy those.
Those have great range.
I think I saw a box of one Ihaven't tested them, I don't
even remember what brand theywere but they said they were
like five miles direct, which ispretty crazy, and three miles
(13:39):
indirect.
So indirect and direct meanslike if you can see the person
like line of sight.
I was like, wow, it's prettygood range.
That might be pretty cool to buyfor, you know, camping or
disaster stuff, because to methey're synonymous.
You can use your disaster stufffor camping and you can use
your camping stuff for disaster.
Um, the garmin mini reach.
(14:02):
It's a cool little uh satellitebased texting system.
But the problem with that youhave to buy a subscription.
You know service for that.
I know people that only pay forthe subscription during the
summer when they hike, and viceversa for people that ski in the
backcountry and stuff like that.
But yeah, so that's just acouple of outdoor things.
(14:23):
You know we're getting to thesummer weather, or summer months
, warmer weather, and we're allgoing to be outside doing things
.
Megan (14:31):
Hopefully.
Jimmy (14:31):
Hopefully.
Megan (14:32):
Get that vitamin D.
Jimmy (14:34):
Yeah, if that's your thing.
Leave some comments below onsome outdoor safety things that
you might want to share with usand peace.
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