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July 22, 2025 20 mins

You know that one friend who insists they “don’t burn”, then spends the whole beach day turning into a lobster? Yeah… don’t be that friend.

In this episode, we’re talking all things too much sun and not enough water. Jimmy and Megan sharing stories, smart tips, and a few bad decisions from their own half-baked adventures. You’ll hear how to treat a sunburn (please skip the butter), what dehydration actually feels like, and how to cool someone down fast if they’re headed toward heat stroke.

Also on the menu: dreams of swimming with sharks, watch-tan regrets, and something called the taco method (yes, it’s a real thing for cooling people down... yes, we're hungry now too).

So whether you’re beach-bound, hiking in the heat, or laying out in the backyard like a teenager, this one’s full of easy tips to keep you and your favorite friends safe this summer.

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Jimmy (00:00):
What's happening?
This is our Life and SafetyPodcast with Jimmy and your girl
, megs, hello.
And today we're going to talkabout just some summer
emergencies, some heat issues,because July is UV Awareness
Month.

Megan (00:17):
That is true.
I found that online.

Jimmy (00:21):
And as a young woman, of course you know about uvs.
As soon as you told me we'retalking about that, I had that
chamber for the joke.
So what app do you use forlooking at the uv index to tell
me if you're gonna tan or not?
I'm gonna be so honest, I don'toh my gosh, you're so not the

(00:46):
typical oh, it's bad.

Megan (00:48):
I have no idea.
I like I couldn't tell you anyof it so you just can't know
what uvs are, but I don't tan.

Jimmy (00:55):
Look at me, I am pasty white well, I didn't want to say
that I can't get away.
You don't get darker than thatno, I just burn.

Megan (01:05):
Actually, that's not true .
Have you seen my watch tan?

Jimmy (01:07):
I'm just looking at that.

Megan (01:08):
You have a watch tan it's so bad, um, but that's not on
purpose, that's just likebecause I never take my.
Oh yeah, your farmer's tan isnot fantastic no, it's not the
business yeah, no, I um, I justI put sunscreen on and then hope
for the best.
But yeah, my like my um tannedreally well and my mom does not
tan really well and we all kindof hoped that I would take after

(01:31):
my dad.
I don't.

Jimmy (01:32):
No In that sense.
No, no, jenny tans well, I tanwell, the boy tans well.
Our girl has to work on it.

Megan (01:45):
Yeah, and isn't that so annoying?

Jimmy (01:48):
Well, not for me.
I tan well.
But she definitely checks theUV indexes and goes and tans,
yeah.

Megan (01:59):
I couldn't even tell you what would be a good UVv index
for tanning yeah, me either.

Jimmy (02:07):
I have no idea I didn't.

Megan (02:08):
I I'm gonna be honest, I didn't even realize that was a
thing that people did oh reallyI mean I knew that, like people
check the uv index, but Ithought it was for like, oh,
should I go outside today or not?
Like is it gonna be?
I don't know, I didn't reallypay attention to it.

Jimmy (02:21):
That's more of an air index thing, I think.
Think too.

Megan (02:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that one I know, that one yeah, but
UV index, I never evenconsidered it for tanning,
tanning.
Yeah, I'm like hey, it's notactively raining.
I'll go outside today and go tothe beach.
What fun in the ocean.

Jimmy (02:42):
Nice, yeah, yeah.
And you, nice, yeah, yeah.
And you are definitely an oceanswimmer, aren't you?

Megan (02:45):
yeah, I am good moist, so I'm impressed that I haven't
been, like, attacked by somesort of sea creature.

Jimmy (02:54):
Yeah, oh, would it change yourself?

Megan (02:56):
yeah, that's true.
I um, I like to swim at uh,like I think it's called, I
don't, I don't know.
They changed the name.
It used to be cow's beach, buton the other side of the wharf,
from the boardwalk in Santa Cruz, I swam there all the time and
I used to like almost alwayswhen I would swim there there
would be like seals that wouldcome up, not necessarily right
up to me, but swim near me withme.

(03:17):
That was fun.
Nice I haven't been attacked byone, yet about one yet that's a
good thing.
Yeah.

Jimmy (03:23):
I try.
It's definitely a good thing.
Did you see the largest greatwhite shark ever recorded in the
Atlantic Ocean yesterday on thenews, no, I didn't.
Yeah, it was like 14 feet longand like 1,600 pounds or
something like that estimatedNice, I was like holy shit.

Megan (03:40):
I really want to go swimming with sharks.
I know it's like a stupidchoice, but I do really want to
go swimming with sharks.

Jimmy (03:45):
I know it's like a stupid choice, but I do really want to
.
I don't know.

Megan (03:48):
I swam with dolphins in Hawaii.

Jimmy (03:50):
Definitely have swam with dolphins before.
Yeah, fun fact, I'm too big.
They can't push me Like they dothose other things Nice.

Megan (03:57):
No, but like you know that thing where they'll like
put you in like a cage, yeah,and you swim with like that, or
there's like a zoo and like Ifeel like it's probably florida,
because of course it's floridaum, they'll put like in a cage
with the alligator and thealligator tank.
that sounds so fun to me yeah,no yeah, I even would actually
be willing to go swimming withsharks, like not caged if it's

(04:19):
like if I go with somebody whoknows what they're doing, but
sharks, I mean, they don't wantto attack you, they don't taste
good.
That's what I've heard.

Jimmy (04:27):
I don't know.

Megan (04:29):
But, like, if you'll notice when like people get bit,
they typically don't come backfor seconds.
They're like they spit you out,they're like bleh.

Jimmy (04:36):
Right.

Megan (04:37):
Human.
I was looking for seal.

Jimmy (04:39):
Yeah, I got surfboard Gross.
I don't know.
I have a lot of fat content.
They might completely, you know.
Well, that's good, tell me youknow about me and Sills.
That'd be hard, I don't know.
There's something about beingpart of the food chain that I'm
not down with.
Fair, you know.
That doesn't mean I don't enjoygoing into the ocean, yeah.

Megan (05:04):
I'm definitely in the friend group.
I'm the one who's like we'll doa beach day, woo.
And then I spend no time withmy friends because I'm in the
ocean Awesome.
I have one or two friends ineach sort of friend group that
goes to the beach consistentlywho will sometimes join me out
in the waves.
It's fun trying to guess.

(05:25):
Do I jump over the wave or do Ihave to dive under it?
Is it going to break too soon?
Will it kill me if I try tojump?
I've only gotten stuck in theundertow once and I survived.

Jimmy (05:35):
Nice, nice.

Megan (05:38):
I was small, it was bad.

Jimmy (05:41):
Well, you said you put sunscreen on.

Megan (05:43):
Yes, oh bad, you beat me.
Well, you said you putsunscreen on.
Yes, oh, back to UV.

Jimmy (05:46):
You know.
So what's your go-to sunburntreatment?

Megan (05:51):
Aloe vera.

Jimmy (05:52):
Yeah, aloe vera, for sure .
What about like anything else?
Have you heard of any likeweird sunburn?

Megan (06:01):
I mean, I've had people tell me to like put butter on it
.
Yeah, which, no, no, I'malready toasty, I don't need to
feel like a marshmallow yeah, noum, aloe is definitely the best
.

Jimmy (06:16):
I think it works the best .

Megan (06:18):
It's most efficient yeah, I like to get the the dye free
one.
I don't know if it actuallymakes a difference, but I in my
mind, when I went went to Mexico, I literally brought a tube of
aloe vera with me, cuz I'm likeI know I'm gonna get burned here
nice.

Jimmy (06:35):
Wh en the kids were little they liked the after sun
cream and then I was like, whydo you like this so much?
And they had like lidocaine init.
Oh, so like it made him feelgood like the sunburn, like it
cooled it off, but then like itnumbed it.

Megan (06:54):
Oh, that's nice.

Jimmy (06:55):
And then Jenny had found this banana boat and so Ella
also had Laticate in it.
So the kids were like alwayslike just slathering it on their
arms.
They're like man, they reallylike this like stuff.
You know it's really good skinhygiene.
Look at this like stuff, youknow it's really good skin
hygiene.
What's going on?
Yeah, and then I read theingredients and there was like I
was laticated.

(07:15):
It makes me feel better.
Like it numbs things like.
And what are the little guyslike it?
You know it's so funny.
Yeah, oh my gosh, they werelike we only like that stuff,
you know so, um, I remember team.
You know sunburn is a firstdegree burn.
So, like you teach you treatanything else and instead of
wrapping it, you know you justwear loose dressings yeah,

(07:40):
nothing super tight.

Megan (07:41):
And one point that I like to point out is that, um, you
know, as soon as you get someany type of burn whether it be a
heat, chemical, sun, whateverit is type of burn on your body
then that messes with yourbody's ability to temperature
regulate.
Yeah, um, so make sure you'retaking care of yourself.
Like yes, it feels good to becool, but don't try to cool

(08:02):
yourself off too much or toofast.
Like don't sleep directly underan air conditioning, because
your body can't self-regulateyour temperature well.
If it has any type of burn onit, it's gonna mess with it yeah
, no, no, oh, we should actuallyfact check this myth right now
okay, I'm on it.

(08:23):
What are we fact checking?

Jimmy (08:25):
hot tubs are good for sunburns.
I think hot tubs are healthywith sunburns, you know, as far
as getting one, but not liketreating the sunburn yeah it.

Megan (08:39):
Um the the california skin institute recommends
against hot tubs.
Um, the ai overview is sayinghot water can further irritate
or worsen the sunburn increasedredness and swelling, pain and
discomfort, dehydration of theskin, increased risk of
blistering.

(09:00):
And I would argue also becausea burn messes with your skin
barrier, that you also have anincreased risk of infection and
stuff, because the germs in ahot tub Sure.
And that one is just fully frommy brain though, so someone
else fact check that, or?

(09:21):
I'll fact check myself, I'lllook Um, but yeah, and it says
uh, cool baths and showers umare recommended, uh, to help
reduce inflammation and also,speaking from experience,
Showers are recommended to helpreduce inflammation and also
speaking from experience, like Isaid, I burn quite easily.

Jimmy (09:36):
Cool showers feel better than hot showers just because
yeah, you're cooling, you'restopping the burning process,
you're cooling things off.
So that makes sense.
That makes sense.
Yeah, I had a friend growing upwho swore by the sunburns
getting into taking a hot showerand or getting into a hot tub.

(09:59):
Yeah, and I was like no, no,now.

Megan (10:06):
A Mayo Clinic recommends a cool bath.

Jimmy (10:10):
There you go.

Megan (10:12):
Oh, it also recommends a cool bath with two ounces go.
Ooh, it also recommends a coolbath with two ounces of baking
soda in the tub.
Interesting, I don't know.

Jimmy (10:23):
What's the baking soda do ?

Megan (10:27):
It doesn't seem to say exactly what it does.
I'm looking, I'm looking.
No, it doesn't give a reasonfor it.
It just says or take a coolbath, add about two ounces of
baking soda to the tub, cool theskin for about 10 minutes
several times a day.
Maybe it helps with cooling it,I don't know, Somebody try it

(10:52):
and let us know.

Jimmy (10:53):
Yeah, Leave it in the comments.
So remember sunburns and daysin the sun we're not drinking
enough water Definitely leads toother issues.

Megan (11:06):
Dehydration is a big one.

Jimmy (11:07):
Dehydration is a big one, for sure, for sure.
How do you know you'redehydrated?
What are some signs andsymptoms?
Let's go over.
Yeah, that's a good one.

Megan (11:15):
Oh, that's a good one.
That is a good question, Ishould know these.
I have them all the time.
I'm always dehydrated.

Jimmy (11:22):
Cramps.

Megan (11:22):
Cramps good, yes, muscle cramps, headaches.

Jimmy (11:28):
Yeah, extreme dehyd.
Yeah, extreme dehydration.
You know you're not sweating,you know like that goes, starts
going into heat exhaustion andthings like that of course.
But um, a big good one is youknow the color of your urine the
darker it gets, usually the badit is and the frequency of
urination.
If you're like you're all dayat the beach and you're like,
huh, you know I didn't peeptoday, that might be a problem.

(11:51):
I would argue't peep today.
That might be a problem.

Megan (11:53):
I would argue, is a problem for sure.

Jimmy (11:55):
Yeah, might be a problem.
For sure you should try to.
You know, drink some more water.
You know electrolytes, thingslike that.
Um, so, to remember the heat,the dehydration it's, you're
going to lead down that darkpath of heat.

Megan (12:10):
you know emergencies we kind of talked about cramps
already and I like to think ofheat cramps as the warning
system of your body saying hey,I don't like this.
Change what you're doing.

Jimmy (12:19):
Sure Sure, and if you don't, listen to your body.

Megan (12:22):
The next step, which I always forget heat exhaustion.

Jimmy (12:26):
Heat exhaustion, right, when a person starts shutting
down, they go to sleep.
They look exhausted, right, um,they might have red, blotchy
skin.
They're going to sweat a lot,cause the body's like, hey,
let's fix this, we're too hot,so extreme sweating.
From almost no sweating toextreme sweating, and then

(12:48):
they're going to go, or fromthey are sweating, um, because
realistically, if they're notsweating they're already in heat
stroke.
Yeah, right, so they'resweating, extreme sweating, like
they're in the shower.
The bodies, you know, theyfreak out they say they like.

Megan (13:06):
If you um touch them, they'll feel hot to the touch
usually hot to the touch, youknow.

Jimmy (13:13):
And then there's degrees to this, and then they start
getting low levels ofconsciousness.
They're not being able to stayawake.
They're not really talking toyou very well, they're not
coherent.
You get that bad headache, thenthey start getting nauseous.

Megan (13:30):
Did you say that?

Jimmy (13:31):
No, I did not say that that's a good one, good one.
Nausea, you know, they actuallymight even throw up, which is
bad.
Because you know, especially ifyou give cold water, yeah,
don't give cold water, eventhough it feels good you can put
cold water on the person, butdon't put cold water, don't give
them cold water.

Megan (13:48):
Yeah, especially if they're nauseous because you
don't want them.
The more they throw up, theless liquid inside of them.

Jimmy (13:58):
Yeah, so absorption, dunk water, water.
It's a good one, like the bowelclinic.

Megan (14:04):
Talked about the um bath now if you don't have a bath,
the hose is good hose worksgreat bottles of water yeah,
cool people off.

Jimmy (14:14):
You don't get some of the clothing off.
Let them evaporate.
Evaporation is a way of cooling, obviously within reason.
Yeah, within reason.

Megan (14:22):
You don't want to cool them off too fast, because then
they start shivering, which isthe body's way of heating itself
up.
Then it's a whole other issue.

Jimmy (14:29):
Yeah, but also the body will start to shiver if they're
too hot too, because it's tryingto work the energy off too,
true?
So don't you know, depending onwhere you're at in the stages
of heat emergencies, shiveringis a good thing if you will and
remember, I mean, and it couldbe as simple as putting the
person in the car where the airconditioning is cranked up.
Yeah, and some water.

(14:50):
That might make them feelbetter.
That's good.

Megan (14:54):
And you know, water with electrolyte is always going to
be better than just plain water.
So we're talking, you know,gatorade, pedialyte, things like
that.
If you have it available, great.
If you don't, I'm going to sayit's a teaspoon of salt per
quart of water.

Jimmy (15:10):
Something like that.

Megan (15:11):
Yeah, which is to help, because your body absorbs
electrolyte water better thanjust plain water.

Jimmy (15:21):
Avoid caffeine, because that's a dehydrant.
Yeah, just remember, you knowyou don't want to give too much
salt water, right?
Because then the body can'tabsorb it, right?
It's all weird, right?
So you got to be careful withthat.
I like to do a 50-50 mix ofGatorade and water, if you can,
you know, or a diluted Gatoradeand water, If you can, you know,
or a diluted Gatorade.
Yeah, better.
Now you have to kind of figureout Between their consciousness

(15:48):
and how with it they are, or ifthey are Half stop sweating To
call 911, alright.
So it's up to you and thesituation.
If the person gets in a car andthey have air conditioning and
they go inside of a building andthey have good air conditioning
and it's cranking and they feelbetter with some water, small

(16:08):
sips of water, and they're like,oh, I feel better, cool.
But if you're not getting anyresponse, you may want to
escalate and call 911.

Megan (16:21):
Yeah, and once they're at the point of like vomiting and
things like that, it's prettyhard um, not necessarily hard to
reverse, but at that point Ipersonally would be calling
9-1-1 sure, sure and it's alwaysbetter safe than sorry to call
9-1-1 yeah, so let's talk abouthow we would.

Jimmy (16:41):
You know ice packs would work.
So where do we put ice packs?
Cold water bottles, things likethat?

Megan (16:47):
You want to put them at pulse points is a good way to
remember it, because that'swhere the blood is closest to
the skin level.
So you're cooling down thatblood as it's passing near the
skin and then going deeper intotheir body and cooling their
body from the inside.
So, um, armpits along the groin, as high up as they can
tolerate, and then actually thesides of the neck.
I know it feels good to put iton the back of the neck, but

(17:10):
it's going to be more effectiveon the side of the neck, like
where the, the carotid arteriesand such are.

Jimmy (17:17):
Yeah, and then behind the knees.

Megan (17:25):
Oh, that's a good one yeah.

Jimmy (17:29):
It's never a bad idea, and just letting people it's
never a bad idea.
And it feels good to put likean ice pack on top of the
person's head while thecapillaries are there.
Especially me, my hair ispretty thin on top, so it works
pretty good.
It feels good to put like anice pack on top of the person's
head while the cap letters arethere.
Yeah, you know, especially me,my hair is pretty thin on top,
so it works pretty good.
It feels pretty good.
And so what do we do for, likean extreme situation?

Megan (17:50):
Mm-hmm.
You know Like once we're at thelevel of heat stroke.

Jimmy (17:53):
Yeah, like they're going.
911's been called already.
Mm stroke yeah, they're going.
9-1-1's been called already.
You know they have a elevatedinternal temperature.
We're not taking, you know,internal temperatures.
No team.
No, we're not, you know um butthe the taco method the taco
method nice I can never remembertarp assisted radioactive.

(18:16):
Remember TARP-assistedradioactive Detroit?
Wow, that's TARD.
That is, we're talking aboutTACO.
Tarp-assisted cooling byoscillation.

Megan (18:29):
Okay, there we go.
I can never remember.

Jimmy (18:33):
TARP-assisted radioactive Detroit is not the appropriate
word to use or do so.
Taco, blanket, tarp, whateverit is.
Pick people up, ice water onthem and lift them up multiple
people and shake the person inthe tarp.

Megan (18:52):
Like you're bringing the left side of the tarp up and
then the right side and it'ssort of rolling them in the ice
water and it's cooling them down.

Jimmy (18:58):
Yes, so when I said shake , I meant roll.

Megan (19:01):
They're not a salt shaker , you don't want to say I would
like to see that, but would bequite funny um, and in making
sure that you're not likechoking them in the process and
having them face down in thewater, especially if they're
having trouble withconsciousness, you don't want to
suffocate them or drown them,because that's another issue, um
, and don't like, if they're, ifyou're like at the lake, don't

(19:24):
throw them in the lake ifthey're having consciousness
issues, because they're so outof it, because that's drowning,
that's, that's murder.

Jimmy (19:30):
We try not to do that sure, sure, edge of the lake
wouldn't be a bad idea.
Yeah, yeah, you know, soaktheir legs, their feet, things
like that.

Megan (19:37):
Mm-hmm.

Jimmy (19:38):
Shade, if you can.
Mm-hmm, that's a good one Shadeif you can.
All right team Be safe outthere this summer Peace.
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