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August 5, 2025 24 mins

What do frostbite, CPR, fire extinguishers, and a cardboard cutout of Justin Bieber have in common? They all make an appearance in this week’s episode. And yes, that’s exactly the kind of day it was.

Jimmy and Megan are playing “Two Truths and a Lie,” Life Safety style. Each round tests Jimmy’s ability to separate fact from fiction on topics like drowning, emergency kits, seizures, airplane safety, and more. Turns out, not everything we learned in the ‘90s holds up... tilt your head back for a nosebleed, or not to tilt? 

Along the way, Jimmy shares a story about a bleach vs. urinal incident that may have turned into a hazmat response, and your hosts unpack why knowing the right version of age-old advice can make a big difference in an emergency.

And just when you think they’re done, Jimmy drops in a “Would You Rather” question from his niece that pits two of his worst fears against each other: clowns and childbirth. His answer? Thoughtful… with just a touch of panic.

This one’s full of curveballs, old-school myths, and random safety tips you’ll actually want to remember.

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Jimmy (00:00):
Hey, what's happening?
Welcome to another life andsafety podcast with your girl
Megs and your boy Jimmy.
He did it, he did it, it's back.

Megan (00:15):
We're going back, back, back, back again.

Jimmy (00:20):
It's our third podcast.
Folks, we're getting a littlepunchy here.
We've been locked in a room,justin Bieber staring at us.
To be clear, not the realJustin Bieber, it's a cardboard
cutout Received as a whiteelephant gift right.

Megan (00:38):
Yes, it was an awesome gift, and now it just pops up
around the office inunsuspecting locations to freak
people out when they walk inwith no lights on to set up in
the morning.

Jimmy (00:50):
I think it's pretty good.
It's very fun here.
Every time I see it, though,I'm always like singing the baby
, baby, oh, alright, that'senough singing.
So today, as you can tell,we're having a little life and
safety podcast we're going tobring back.
Would you Rather?

Megan (01:13):
Except with a twist Two truths and a lie.

Jimmy (01:16):
Oh, two truths and a lie, mm-hmm.
Oh, do I have to come up withtwo truths and a lie, or you
have your own?
No, I have them.
Okay, I have them.

Megan (01:25):
You're just going to answer them.

Jimmy (01:27):
Okay, okay, Whoo.
I was like I didn't comeprepared, I didn't do my
homework, teach All right.
So let's rip the Band-Aid offand let's go for it All righty.

Megan (01:40):
Two truths and a lie.
One smoke alarms should betested once a month.
Two you only need a fireextinguisher in the kitchen or
three most deadly house fireshappen at night.
Which one's the lie?

Jimmy (01:56):
Which one's the lie, mm-hmm?
What was the second option?

Megan (02:03):
You only need a fire extinguisher in the kitchen.

Jimmy (02:05):
That's the lie.

Megan (02:06):
That is true.
That is the lie.

Jimmy (02:08):
Yeah, you should have one in your garage and you should
have one in your kitchen.
A two-story house, you shouldhave one upstairs to help you
escape.
If maybe, um and I would evengo as far as having one in your
master bedroom Like for me, haveone in the in our garage or,
excuse me, in our closet so ifthe kitchen is on fire, I can

(02:31):
actually respond to it and nothave to, like, walk past the
fire to go underneath our sinkto get our fire extinguisher.
Yeah, all right, that wasactually a little tougher than I
thought.
I gotta pay attention.
I'm multitasking over here, allright.

Megan (02:46):
You ready.

Jimmy (02:47):
Yeah.

Megan (02:49):
Use direct pressure to control bleeding.
You should always wear gloveswhen giving first aid if
available, or you should tiltyour head back to stop a
nosebleed.

Jimmy (02:59):
Ooh, that's a really good one and that's based on some
old medicine there that'stilting your head back that's
the lie that's the lie.
That's the lie.
Um, that's old medicine.
You should pinch your nose andlean forward now.
Yeah, all right, that was easy,and maybe it was the fire one
we started off with and I had abunch of pressure on myself
there, so maybe that's what itwas all righty, technical

(03:23):
difficulties.

Megan (03:24):
We are back, and by technical difficulties I mean uh
, the computer died and I didnot plug it in, and that's on me
.
So moving on.
Yes, all right.
Number one drowning can happenin under 60 seconds.
Number two if someone isdrowning, the best thing is to

(03:47):
jump in and help immediately.
Or number three lifeguards aretrained to spot silent drowning.

Jimmy (03:55):
I'm going to go with the jump in immediately.
I don't know anything aboutlifeguarding.
I know some water.
I know, I know I play it offlike I know everything, but I
don't know anything, um.
But yeah, I'm gonna go with thejumping in correct.

Megan (04:16):
Yeah, you don't ever want to jump in unless you are
trained in water rescue, becausechances are you're just gonna
have make it two victims in thewater for people to need to save
.

Jimmy (04:25):
Yeah, what is silent drowning?

Megan (04:27):
Silent drowning is when they're not flailing and
thrashing around.

Jimmy (04:36):
Let me look up a technical that sounds pretty
good, you had me.

Megan (04:44):
It's a term sometimes used to describe a situation
where a person inhales, whileinhales, water, causing a spasm
in the vocal cords that preventsair from entering the lungs.
This can happen quickly, oftenwithout the person being able to
yell or scream for help, makingit seem like a silent drowning.
While the term is sometimesused, it's important to
understand that the underlyingmechanism is the spasm of the

(05:07):
vocal cords, not the wateritself filling the lungs.
Go on, it Also sometimes knownas dry drowning.
Okay, okay.

Jimmy (05:20):
You learn something new every day.

Megan (05:22):
Fancy Alrighty.

Jimmy (05:24):
Alrighty.

Megan (05:27):
Number one CPR always brings people back to life.
Number two compression-only CPRis better than doing nothing.
Or number three you should pushat least two inches down on an
adult chest.

Jimmy (05:41):
Well, this one's pretty easy.

Megan (05:42):
Yeah.

Jimmy (05:42):
Right, cpr is not always effective um.
The sooner you start cpr, thebetter.
But obviously nothing's 100 umexcept for dying, I guess that's
true, and taxes, death andtaxes as they say.
As they say all right, that wasan easy one.

(06:04):
That I'm still actuallythinking about the drowning one.
Um, I don't really have anymore like really to say about it
, but I'm just kind of like huh,I don't know, I'm not, I don't
like not knowing things.
I think that's why I gotta givethat persona that I know
everything, because I alwayslook shit up and I'm always why

(06:29):
All right, move on, let's moveon, let's move on.

Megan (06:34):
Number one you can get sunburned on a cloudy day.
Number two heat stroke is alife-threatening emergency.
Or number three you only needsunscreen if you'll be outside
for over an hour.

Jimmy (06:47):
This is a good one.
The sunscreen over an hour oneis the lie.

Megan (06:54):
Correct.

Jimmy (06:55):
Yeah, yeah, if you're outside, you should have
sunscreen on.
It's just, it is what it is.
And it's interesting that youactually brought that one up,
because I was just talking tojenny and some other folks in
different conversations and it'skind of amazing right now, a
lot of people, a lot of ourfriends, a lot of people our age
I'll say it that way are havingskin issues due to sun right

(07:21):
now, and I guess it might bejust like an old thing because
all of us are just kind of oldright now, or because the sun's
really bad or because we didn'twear sunscreen growing up.
Like I know I didn't and I putit on now.
Mostly it's kind of funny.
I just put it on now.
Mostly it's kind of funny.
I just put it on my head and myface and my ears.

(07:42):
You know I got to get better at, like you know, putting
sunscreen on my neck, becauseI'm always have a red neck and
stuff like that.
But yeah it's interesting thatyou brought that one up, because
I was literally having thisconversation on how much of a
coincidence it is for a lot ofour friends having skin issues
yeah, have you ever seen thoseum like images of truck drivers

(08:08):
who didn't wear like sunscreenwhen they were doing long haul
truck drives?

Megan (08:12):
and so like the left half of their body, their face and
their arm is like super wrinkledand has a lot of sun damage and
probably has some scars frommelanoma removals, and then the
right half of their face lookslike 10 to 20 years younger
because that was the side thatwas shaded in the truck cab.
And the left side had access tothe sun.

Jimmy (08:31):
I've never seen it that drastic, but I've seen like the
hands and like the left arm perse.

Megan (08:37):
Yeah.

Jimmy (08:38):
Really darker just weathered.
I'll say arm per se yeah.

Megan (08:43):
Really um darker just weathered.

Jimmy (08:44):
I'll say it that way yeah , yeah, it's crazy.

Megan (08:47):
Alrighty.
Um number one frostbite onlyhappens in below zero
temperature.
Hypothermia can occur in even50 degrees Fahrenheit weather.
Or you should rewarmfrostbitten skin slowly.

Jimmy (09:03):
What was the first one?

Megan (09:05):
Frostbite only happens in below zero temperatures.

Jimmy (09:08):
That one.

Megan (09:09):
That is true.
That is the lie.
Well, it's true that that isthe lie.

Jimmy (09:13):
It's true.
That is the lie.
You're right when you make theright turn Right right.
Right Left Left.
Yes, yes, right Right Left.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Anytime it's cold out andanytime right around when it
gets to become freezing around32 degrees or so, your skin
crystallizes and starts goinginto frostbite.

(09:34):
And yeah, not good, Not good.
And somebody that grew up inthe or just prolonged coldness,
it will also happen.
So the longer you sit outsideand the colder your body gets,
your body temperature dropsright, Easier it is for that to
happen too.

Megan (09:51):
Especially if there's like wet or damp involved, right
.

Jimmy (09:54):
Absolutely, absolutely.
So many growing up in you knowthe mountains again, letting
your hands get really reallycold and then going inside and
sticking them in the hot waterto wash your hands or do
something like that.
It hurts because the crystalsare burning, you know melting
and stuff like that.
So the expansion not good.
No, that's a good one all right.

Megan (10:15):
You should always have at least three days of food and
water in your go bag.
Cash and chargers are importantemergency items.
Number three your emergency kitonly needs supplies for
yourself.

Jimmy (10:30):
Wow, I like all three of those as truths, okay, and I
could argue all three of thoseto be truthful, okay, these are
ai generated right?
Yeah, so I'd okay, sointeresting.
So three days in the water foryourself.

Megan (10:51):
I definitely agree with um three days of food and water
in your go bag.

Jimmy (10:56):
Yep.

Megan (10:57):
Cash and chargers are important emergency items.

Jimmy (10:59):
Absolutely.

Megan (11:00):
Or three.
Your emergency kit only needssupplies for yourself.

Jimmy (11:04):
Definitely, definitely.

Megan (11:08):
It offers the third one as the lie of you only need to
pack for yourself.

Jimmy (11:12):
Okay, I was going to say the charger, because you'd have
to have something to use thecharger on and charge Fair Right
.
Charger because you'd have tohave something to use the
charger on and charge there,right.
Um, whereas I think thepersonal bag or preparedness for
yourself, I think that's kindof I see why they would say that
, because it's very obscure andI would say I would agree with

(11:37):
that if it was just you, like inyour car, like for me, like my
bag in my car is just for me.
Now my preparedness kit at homeis for the whole family, right.
So that one, I get it, but Idon't get it.
I need more information.

(11:59):
Whereas the charger, if youdon't have anything to plug it
into, why it doesn't matter ifyou have a charger, fair yeah,
so all right.
That was interesting, though Ilike it Doesn't really work for
the two-trace one and a lie onethough.
Mm-hmm, all right, all right,what's the next one?

Megan (12:20):
Okay, it is okay to block a fire exit temporarily during
deliveries.
Two employees should know wherethe nearest fire extinguisher
is, or three safety drillsshould include all shift workers
.

Jimmy (12:33):
Ooh, you should not ever, you know, block an emergency
exit.
That's the lie, correct.
You know you never know whenbad things are going to happen.
So don't do it, don't do it,yeah, Cool.

Megan (12:55):
Alrighty.
Number one many commonhousehold cleaners can be toxic
if inhaled.
Number two mixing bleach andammonia is safe as long as it's
done in a well-ventilated area.
Or number three you should keepall cleaning products in their
original containers.

Jimmy (13:14):
Number two yeah, Ammonia and bleach bad always.

Megan (13:19):
Even if it's ventilated, it's still.

Jimmy (13:19):
Even if it's ventilated, it's still, even if it's
ventilated, it's bad, incrediblytoxic, incredibly toxic.
Yeah, don't do that.
No, yeah, yeah, alrighty, did Iever tell you about the time we
responded to the firehouseanother firehouse in our
battalion.
Oh, no, the firehouse, anotherfirehouse in our battalion
Because somebody poured bleachin the urinal.

(13:42):
Basically, you pee ammonia, youpee urea.
The fire captain on duty thatday was, we'll say, like to use
the like to take some nips outof the bottle, if you know what
I'm saying, understood and um,he peed basically just straight

(14:07):
urea, just basically ammonia,and it reacted in the urinal and
ended up passing out oh my godso we had to respond and like,
show up with, like our scbas anddo all this stuff and actually
go in and rescue this captainwith his pants standing on his
ankles and we got him outsideand he had some fresh air and
stuff.
Um, yeah, he had lots of wordsto say rough and you're probably

(14:34):
thinking, well, how come theguy's that responded to that
word there didn't do that?
Because they didn't know whatwas going on.
They didn't know if it was likea toxic thing.
They could smell the toxicchemicals and they were exposed.
So they were like let's not goin there and we don't know
what's going on.
Let's get somebody else outhere with more gear and more
help.
It was just a strange, strangesituation.

(14:57):
Yeah, yeah.

Megan (15:00):
It's crazy.

Jimmy (15:01):
It was so nuts.

Megan (15:02):
Oh no, hey, yeah.
Yeah, it's crazy, it was sonuts.
Oh no, hey, but that's, youknow, a good point.
Don't use bleach on toilets ifyou're, you know, want to be
safe.

Jimmy (15:11):
Right.

Megan (15:11):
Don't make bad decisions.
And, to be fair, I do know thatyou pee out ammonia, but I
didn't ever consider that bleachcould react with that.
So hey, I learned something newtoday too.
Sweet, All righty but I didn'tever consider that bleach could
react with that.
So hey, I learned something newtoday too.
Sweet, all righty.
A couple more.
Number one the safest seat onan airplane is the exit row.

(15:31):
Number two you should carrycopies of your ID and travel
documents in separate bags whenyou travel, or number three
hotel room emergency exit shouldbe located as soon as you check
in.

Jimmy (15:47):
Oh, this is a good one, I'd argue.
All three of them are true.
I'm going to say the documentthing is false, though.

Megan (15:54):
That one is true.

Jimmy (16:02):
Oh well, what if you put them in your check baggage and
your check baggage gets lost?
So now you don't have yourcopies, right?
And I guess the argument wouldbe you have your originals on
you, right?

Megan (16:11):
Yeah, I think that's.
The point is that, in case youroriginals get lost, you have
copies.

Jimmy (16:17):
Yeah, I get that.

Megan (16:21):
But then somebody has your information, yeah, but
somebody has your informationand stuff like that.

Jimmy (16:26):
So you know, for somebody that does travel with extra
copies of stuff, I always keepthem in my travel like my
carry-on Mm-hmm and I alwayshave like a travel bag with me.
It's like two bags basically.

Megan (16:48):
Got it.

Jimmy (16:49):
I like to maximize my stuff.
I'll say it that way mycarry-on capabilities Fair.
What, yeah, yeah.

Megan (17:00):
It says that the lie is.
The safest seat on an airplaneis the exit row.

Jimmy (17:05):
I would ask is it the middle exit row or the back exit
row or the front exit row?
Wow, Because most peoplesurvive the actual impact.
They don't survive the firethat happens afterwards in the
smoke.
So that's to be able to get outof the wreckage is more

(17:28):
important, so the exit row orknowing where the exit rows are
fair.
So I think that would.
Again, these are all reallygood points and I think that
they're there to create aconversation right, not to
actually be able to guess them.
So I would all very goodconversation pieces.

Megan (17:48):
And I guess the argument could be made that for the
safest seat is not necessarilythe exit row, but it's
definitely safer.

Jimmy (17:57):
So it's the safest seat, like three rows back from an
emergency exit.

Megan (18:01):
Well, yeah, I guess that's.
The point is that, um, there'sno definitive which seat exactly
is the safest, but you'redefinitely safer being closer.
Being able to get out fast isthe safest places, wherever
you're going to be able to getout and like.
If you're not able to, ifyou're not like able-bodied to

(18:24):
open up the emergency door, thenthe safest spot for you is not
in the emergency exit row?

Jimmy (18:28):
Yeah, because you can't even sit there at that point.

Megan (18:30):
Well, yeah.

Jimmy (18:33):
So I don't know.
That's interesting.
What's the next one?

Megan (18:38):
Number one you should rinse a minor burn with cool
water for several minutes.
Two, you should not popblisters that are from burns.
Or three, you should remove anyclothing that is stuck to a
burn before treating it.

Jimmy (18:55):
I'm going to say number three.

Megan (18:56):
Yeah, that one's the lie.

Jimmy (18:57):
Yeah, that's three for sure.
For sure, that one was an easyone, yeah.

Megan (18:59):
Yeah, that's three for sure, For sure.
That one was an easy one, yeah.
And then our last one is youshould call 911 before starting
CPR if you are alone with anadult who's having an emergency
that requires CPR.
Number two you should stay witha person and time the seizure
if they're having one.
Or number three, if somebody ishaving a seizure, put something

(19:21):
in their mouth to keep themfrom biting their tongue.

Jimmy (19:23):
Oh, another old medicine one.
So the last one is the lie.
We do not stick anything inanybody's mouth while they're
having a seizure.
Old medicine they changed thisat least 15 years ago, yeah.

Megan (19:40):
Still get questions about it every day in class, though,
every class.

Jimmy (19:42):
Every class, every class, and I always tell people, you
know it's really good trainingthat they've had in the past
because they remembered it Right.
Yeah, but it's just not themost up-to-date standard.

Megan (19:53):
Yeah.

Jimmy (19:55):
So don't do that, definitely time it and always
call 911 for any seizure, unlessit's a family member and you
know that they are epileptic andyou know they're going to have
a seizure and it's you know, andit's within their time and
they're I don't want to sayspecs, like they're a robot, but
with but there's spec, you knowthere's specs like what they're

(20:16):
, they're used to and not usedto.
I should say it that way.

Megan (20:19):
um, yeah, all right and then, before we sign off, we had
a.
We had a, would you rather sentin from a lot of our loyal
listeners.

Jimmy (20:30):
Yeah, what's up, mckenzie um?

Megan (20:35):
would you rather deliver a baby from a stranger or have
to do cpr on somebody dressed asa clown?
And, if you'll remember, thisis the one specific for jimmy,
because he does not likechildbirth and he does not like
clowns.

Jimmy (20:48):
right, right, um.
I guess if I had to choose umbefore I give my answer, there's
a little context here.
Mackenzie is our eldest niece,who's just wicked smart, who's

(21:14):
probably going to be aveterinarian when she grows up
because of her love of animals.
And just really cooldisposition.
Just a really cool little girland I'm super proud of her.
And just really cooldisposition.
Just a really cool little girland I'm super proud of her and
her sister, obviously.
And they listen to this thingquite a bit, so they know a lot
about their uncle, jimmy andMeg's here, and after they

(21:37):
listened to the first one, backin April I got a text message
from their mom with this wouldyou rather?
I don't remember their answersbecause I had to call them and
ask, like, what would they think, but I'm actually looking at my
old text messages here and myfirst answer was neither.

Megan (22:00):
I have that tracked.

Jimmy (22:01):
But a great question and that was actually what I said
and I'm gonna stick with myoriginal answer, which was um
help a stranger give birthinteresting yeah, that's
bringing a life in.
You know that person'sobviously in lots of pain and
things like that, and I knowpeople find joy and happiness in

(22:31):
clowns, but there is none ofthat for me.

Megan (22:35):
I would have guessed the other, because you have to bear
the chest, so you're going toget most of the costume off
anyways.
Nope, nope, not even going.
Going to get most of thecostume off anyways.

Jimmy (22:42):
No, not even look at the face and the makeup and the
squishy noises and all thethings and the big stupid shoes.
And no, no, just absolutely not.
I'm calling the good samaritanlaw on that when I'm walking
away I don't think that's whatit's for, but I know it's not

(23:04):
what how that works, but that'show I'm going to interpret it.

Megan (23:07):
All right, I like it, I like it.

Jimmy (23:11):
Yeah, that's a great one, mackenzie.
Thank you, sweetheart.
Yeah, no, no, all right team.
Thanks for joining us in ourlife and safety podcast.
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