April 1, 2025 • 24 mins
We all like to think we can bounce back from anything—but sometimes our bodies have other plans for us. In this episode, we’re swapping stories about the injuries that taught us the hard way how important it is to rest, recover, and know your limits. From a high school football game that ended with a torn rotator cuff, to a wrestling match gone wrong, and a rollerblade trick that backfired—this episode is full of moments where we probably should have rode the bench.
Along the way, we’ll break down the basics of what to do when something pops, swells, or locks up—like how to sling a shoulder with a hoodie, what not to do with a jammed finger (seriously, don’t yank it), and why ignoring a sore knee could sideline you for months. Whether you’ve got kids in sports, a body that isn’t as invincible as it used to be, or you just enjoy hearing our painful lessons of what not to do with an injury, this episode is for you.
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Jimmy (00:00):
Hey, what's happening?
It's Jimmy and your girl Mags.
Hello.
Megan (00:07):
Hi Hi.
Jimmy (00:09):
You gotta talk.
I got Megan all fired up,bringing out my heated
athleticism what is an athlete,what's not an athlete
conversation?
We're not going to tell youwhat we were arguing about.
Yeah, we had to wake her upthis morning.
So we are going to talk aboutathletic injuries.
(00:32):
Some I've had, some I've seenand just kind of had to respond
to them.
So what you know you wouldn'tlook.
You know you really can't tell.
If I look at me anymore I'mmore pear-shaped than V-shaped,
but when I was younger I wasdefinitely.
(00:54):
I think I am still athletic,for you know who I am and you
know what my body type lookslike.
Now I'm not the athlete that Iused to be for sure.
Now I'm not the athlete that Iused to be for sure, but growing
(01:16):
up I played lots of sports,primarily football.
Growing up, a little bit ofmartial arts, growing up.
And as I got older Itransitioned to like most fellas
, I would say, got into golf andthose kind of things, and I
actually stopped playingfootball because of my shoulder
injury.
And I guess we'll start there,okay, my shoulder injury.
I tackled somebody on a kickoffand I tackled this really large
(01:41):
human and I dislocated myshoulder and my shoulder popped
out and I had basically three ofthe rotator cuff muscles torn.
Megan (01:53):
Oh fun.
Jimmy (01:56):
A nd I was still being recruited heavily to play
football and I knew therecruiters was in the stands so
I actually at halftime went inand they put it back into place.
And you know, at the time I wasyoung and dumb and different,
just time in life whereathletics were a big deal and
(02:21):
the coaches just wanted to win.
They didn't really totally careabout the kids.
I mean, my coaches cared aboutme and I'm actually in touch
with the head coach stillthrough social media.
It's kind of cool.
But he his wife was the trainerand he was just like you going
to play and I was like, yep,they put it back in and I would
(02:41):
have played.
Crazy, probably should have donethat To this day I would have
played Crazy.
Probably should have done that.
Megan (02:45):
To this day, I still have, I would argue, definitely
shouldn't have done that.
Jimmy (02:48):
Definitely not, definitely not.
So yeah, I went and played andended up destroying my shoulder,
and now I don't get to play atall anymore, and I still wake up
in the mornings, when it's coldand things like that, my
shoulder locks up and it's hardto move still and it just kind
(03:10):
of is what it is, mm-hmm.
So shoulder, how do we treatshoulder?
How do we respond to theshoulder injury?
So the thing that I always tellpeople is you know, depending
which way it's, you know, if theshoulder ball is out of the
socket, the head of the shoulderbones out.
(03:32):
Just don't put it back in.
It's extremely painful.
The muscles are going totighten up around it and protect
itself.
It and protect itself.
Mm-hmm.
So sling it.
So ace bandage or tally wrappedaround the arm and the torso.
(03:54):
A triangular bandage is bestmm-hmm you can use a sweatshirt.
Iactually my little brother's
baseball game years ago I thinkthe kid slid into third or was
playing third base.
I just remember it was at thirdbase and the kid's shoulder
(04:14):
kind of popped out back then andhe was just sitting in the
dugout just in crazy pain and Ihad walked up and I was like hey
, hey, can I help you, kind of athing.
And he's like yeah, you knowwhatever.
And I just took his sweater andI just took the sleeves and
tied around his neck and stuckhis arm into the torso part of
(04:37):
the sweatshirt and used it as atriangular bandage.
And he did and he was like man,I feel so much better mm much
better.
I arm doesn't have to hold upthat, so slinging it is huge.
Uh, when I went through my skipatrol class, they taught us
like seven different ways to doslings and splints for shoulders
(04:58):
and all this stuff.
I was like cool, like cool, whyyeah?
Megan (05:06):
I was always taught the swing and sling and swath.
So you sling it and then youswath it like tie it down to the
body, so it can't move fromthere, yeah.
Jimmy (05:15):
And that's realistically all you really need to do for a
shoulder injury.
Megan (05:20):
Yeah.
Jimmy (05:21):
And obviously calm down when it's needed.
You're probably going to haveto go to the emergency room.
Megan (05:25):
You're gonna be sad, yeah did I ever tell you about
my shoulder injury?
no I was on the wrestling teamand we were doing just matches
in practice and, um, to this dayI don't know exactly what
happened.
I kind of blacked out, but um,I was, she was trying to pin me
and I didn't want to be pinnedand I kept my arm out to the
(05:48):
side and she sort of flipped meover and just popped my shoulder
out and my friend who's on theteam she's still my friend to
this day was on like the otherside of the gym and heard it pop
out and my coach was um a lotand she was like keep going,
keep going.
And the girl who was on top ofme like felt my shoulder pop
through my body and was veryhesitant to keep going, but
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coach kept yelling finish itflipper.
And so she kept going and Ijust kept rotating out, um, and
then at that point I gave up andjust flipped and got pinned
because I was in so much pain,sure, and then I popped it back
in myself because I have fun.
Fact, I have a genetic disorderwhere I just kind of pop out.
(06:33):
So it's not the end of theworld and I've dislocated my
shoulder before and popped itback in, but that was definitely
the worst one, because normallywhen I pop out I stop and get
it back in, but that time itkept going.
There was like it wasn't justmy body, it was somebody else's
body weight forcing it um, andlike nobody believed me because
(06:54):
I wasn't like screaming in agony, but I was in a lot of pain and
crying and um, and they werelike you're fine, it's not
dislocated.
I was like no, it super is um.
And then I tore stuff.
Obviously I don't know ifthat's obvious, but I tore stuff
(07:14):
, um.
And then, unfortunately, thatwas like two weeks before, uh,
ccs, our championship game game,that's not the word match and
so I was pulled from CCS, um,because I couldn't use my
shoulder properly because therewas a bunch of torn stuff in
there.
But yeah, and I I wish that Ihad not popped it back in myself
(07:40):
and I wish I had gone to thedoctor more than because I
definitely waited a couple ofdays.
And then I just still couldn'tmove my arm after a couple of
days.
And then I just still couldn'tmove my arm after a couple of
days and I was like something'swrong, yeah, yeah.
Jimmy (07:54):
I was um growing up I it was it went through a
rollerblading phase thatprobably a lot of guys my age
did, and you know know, becauseit was very similar to skiing,
and so we were doing likefreestyle skiing stuff on our
(08:14):
rollerblades.
Basically I was actuallygrinding a pipe that my buddy
had made in front of this houseand I fell off the pipe and
dislocated my shoulder and mybuddy actually yanked on it and
put it back in.
And while I was doing that,actually it called um another
(08:35):
friend whose mom was a nurse andhe's like let me call my mom,
and mom was like, actuallyworked in an orthopedic office.
So the doctor said I'll see,you just come in.
And I got there and I, since mybuddy pulled on it, he's like
it's back in place, he's like,but you probably tore stuff and
(08:57):
you know not a lot you can do atthat point except for put it in
the sling yeah so I was like,yeah, I shouldn't do that, so
let's talk about.
You should probably talk abouthow do we know it's out.
Well, the person will usuallyfill it, pop out and in yeah,
right, and if you can imaginewhere your shoulder and your arm
(09:18):
go together, that ball, thatmuscle mass, is going to be
either towards your belly buttonor towards your back, or up or
down, and it's usually going tobe pretty obvious yeah right.
If you can actually fill the topof the collarbone right, the
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bone that goes across the top ofyour shoulder, you'll feel the
v and it'll end.
It'll point at the end of theshoulder joint and and if you
feel that and you can't feelthat there's a hole, there's
just a ball of the shoulder headsomeplace you know, towards the
tummy, towards the back, up ordown, you should probably get it
checked out.
(09:58):
I get a lot of in sports withmy kids and just around it's a
lot of that.
Is my finger dislocated, myfinger broken?
I don't know.
I don't have x-ray vision.
Those people don't.
If you do, let me know.
I hire you out for you know,birthday parties and sporting
(10:21):
events.
You know we'll make up somemoney but we look for is just
like any kind of deformity,especially in the fingers.
It's usually pretty obvious.
The thumb injuries are bigbecause you have a lot of that
big muscle and kind of stuff inyour hand or palm.
We had a kid coaching footballmy son's football team.
(10:48):
He was 12 or 13 at the time andone of the kids came over and
he was like hey, I think I brokemy thumb.
The coach sent him over to me.
I was kind of the de factocoach for injuries for the
organization, which was cool.
And he came over and I said,did you guys pull on it?
(11:08):
And they were like no.
And I was like yes, you did.
Everybody always pulls on thumbsand fingers and they feel like
it's jammed or hurt and they'relike, yeah, we jammed it, we
pulled on it and I said okay,and I wanted to know, because
the way it was, thediscoloration was happening and
I was like this doesn't lookright and it was kind of off at
an angle and so it definitelywas not in the socket.
(11:30):
And where the happening is iswhen they pulled on it and there
was a small hairline crack inthe small little bone and when
they yanked on it it broke moreyeah and they made them kind of
practice with it.
Oh, they're like it's just yourthumb, it's just a jam thumb,
(11:52):
it's just a jam finger, don'tworry about it.
And we moved it around, itbroke.
More so, the socket the u partof the socket of the thumb
actually was for lack of abetter word destroyed.
So we had this 10-year-old boywith a thumb that was basically
(12:17):
useless and he ended up being ina cast for like 10 weeks or
something like that for his fullU-bone to go back.
Megan (12:21):
I was going to say that sounds like he's out for the
rest of the season at least.
Jimmy (12:24):
He was definitely out.
So don't yank on fingers thatare jammed.
You know, if you can move them,cool, if you don't, that's okay
.
Like, if you can't move it,it's probably a problem.
Go get it checked out, um, letthe doctor x-ray and make sure
there's no things in there.
Um, I'll like so with fingers.
(12:45):
My son, he broke his fingerpretty bad, his junior,
sophomore year, sophomore year,jumping up and catching a
football and he jammed hisfinger and, him being my kid, he
yanked on it and put it backinto place, of course, of course
, and it ended up being thesecond bone in his fingertip.
(13:09):
So if you think of your, nailthe first joint and that second
bone before the middle joint,the big joint.
That bone was broken and theonly way to fix it was they had
to pin it.
And since he was an athlete andhe was getting on in the
baseball season, the doctoractually said well, since
(13:30):
baseball season is starting,we'll put a cover on it so you
can heal by itself.
And it was broken so badly thesplit didn't help, it just
didn't do anything.
So they were like alright, it'snot healing, let's put a pin in
it.
So they basically took a longcrochet needle if you can
(13:51):
imagine that and stuck thatthrough his fingertip.
Megan (13:54):
Exciting yeah.
Jimmy (13:56):
So he watched around with a finger you know, this nail
sticking out of his finger forabout four weeks, Did he?
Megan (14:03):
continue to play.
Jimmy (14:04):
He wasn't able to play baseball because he couldn't fit
in his glove.
Megan (14:08):
Oh, okay, fair, fair, fair, and that was his catching
hand.
Jimmy (14:10):
So if he caught a ball or something, it hurt pretty bad
yeah, and they were like, well,what if he pitches?
And I said if you can put aglove on him, it doesn't hurt,
we don't care if he pitches, buthe can't defend himself without
a glove and that and that'skind of a safety issue.
Yeah, so he didn't get to playfor a couple weeks, so he missed
a couple games, but ended upbeing a good season for him, um,
(14:31):
so that's your shoulder, yourhands.
I was, um, I don't do jujitsu alot.
I broke.
I've um, used to do jujitsu alot, but it's kind of it's rough
on the body.
They call it the gentle art arm,but it's hard on the body and I
actually was getting we werejust doing arm burn drills and
(14:52):
my elbow got caught in a weirdway and it ripped my forearm
muscles and the only thing theycould do was splint it and let
it rest.
And they said they could havesurgery on it.
And I said, well, what wouldthe surgery tell?
And they would say we would goin, scrape all the scar tissue
(15:15):
out of the ripped muscle andthen take all the viable muscle
and just sew it back together.
Oh yeah, and it was more of asteeple back together and I was
like well, what happens if Idon't do it?
And they were like nothing.
Megan (15:31):
It feels like that was a pretty easy choice there.
Jimmy (15:33):
Yeah, they were like if you're an Olympic athlete and
you needed your forearms forsomething, we would recommend it
just because.
Then I was like just because,or benefit.
And they were like just because.
And I was like, yeah, I'm notdoing that.
So now if I flex my forearm andturn it the right way, you can
(15:54):
see the indentation of my muscle, Like where it ripped Crazy.
There's like a little holethere.
It doesn't hurt, it doesn't doanything, it's fine.
But fun fact I was actuallyworking on an ambulance at the
time when that happened and Ishowed up to shift with this ace
bandage wrapped around hissplint and they're like I can
(16:21):
lift and carry things and Icould do probably one-handed CPR
.
I could do compressions with myleft hand.
They're like and I can drive.
And they're like okay, I'm likeI could work, it's not a big
deal, I need to work.
And they're like okay, I'm likeI could work, it's not a big
deal, I need to work.
And they were like all right,so I actually worked.
I think I ended up doing liketwo shifts on the ambulance with
(16:43):
my elbow, like that.
Megan (16:45):
Oh my gosh.
Jimmy (16:46):
Yeah.
Megan (16:47):
Sounds like it worked out though.
Jimmy (16:48):
Yeah yeah, I just had a fun story and a little deformity
.
So, joints, right, rice, what'sa rice?
Megan (17:02):
Do you remember Rest ice compression elevate.
Jimmy (17:09):
Yep, perfect.
That's really the best thing todo with joints until you get to
a doctor, right?
So rest it, ice it, compress it, grab something, you know,
that's really the best thing todo with joints until you get to
a doctor, Rest it, ice itcompress it, grab something not
super strong like a firmhandshake, wrap around it.
You don't want to create atourniquet and have your toes
turn black and fall off, so tospeak, or your fingers Just
(17:33):
tight, compression and keep itelevated.
Keep it elevated the best youcan.
So let's talk about real quicksport injuries with fingers.
We kind of brought up my son'sfinger, so the best thing to do
for fingers?
Obviously we're always, always,always, always get checked out
911.
None of this is medical advice.
(17:54):
This is something you can do inlieu of getting to the doctor
Splint, so splints for fingersafter a sport injury.
Ice cream sticks, popsiclesticks are awesome and just
taping the fingers togetherworks really good.
(18:14):
Body splinting Body splintingBody splinting Using a pen will
work Anything realistically.
You can't tape your thumb.
You can tape your thumb to yourhand.
It doesn't always make youcomfortable because it's your
thumb and you want to use itmore, but you can definitely do
that.
Popsicle sticks are better forthe thumb.
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Everything else, including yourtoes, is just taped to itself,
taped to the body, anatomicalsplints.
So I guess knees would beanother one I have knee injuries
.
Um, it's going to be just likean elbow or shoulder injury.
(19:00):
You know, immobilize it, try tokeep it as mobile as you
possibly can.
I know, um, with volleyball,especially beach volleyball,
I've been told a common injuryis dislocated kneecaps from just
the torque and things like thaton the knees, extremely painful
(19:23):
.
Yes, the person can't move it,and a good way to split that is
just putting a pillow or lots ofblankets or a jacket like a
beach house, something like that, underneath it, make it kind of
like a triangle and then justkind of try to tape it all
together.
Megan (19:32):
What do you mean by make it like a triangle, like make
their leg like a triangle?
Jimmy (19:36):
No, no make the split, the blanket, whatever it is, as
triangular as possible, causethat person's leg is going to be
locked straight out or bent alittle bit and um, so just kind
of take that blanket and make ittriangular shape, cause that's
usually going to be moresupportive behind the knee and
like so the calf and the thigh,and just keep pushing the
(19:58):
comfort you know.
Lots of hugs, lots of kissesI'm gonna be honest, I'm still.
Megan (20:05):
What do you mean by a triangle?
Jimmy (20:07):
I'm sorry, I'm so lost so take the triangle like the
jacket or a blanket and justbunch it up and try to make it
look like a triangle.
Megan (20:19):
Okay, I'm with you on the shape of the triangle, but
what do you do with said like?
Jimmy (20:23):
is it pointing the triangle, pointing towards the
so the top of the point goesinto the knee and then the sides
of the triangle, one goes intothe calf and one goes underneath
the thigh.
Megan (20:33):
Okay, oh, got it.
Yeah, so you?
So you are trying to bend theirleg into a.
Jimmy (20:37):
Well, you don't have to never bend the leg right.
So we know you can't see usteam, probably for the best.
So I took my jacket off and Iactually took it in a kind of
triangular shape, so if you canimagine the knees here, it's
like you're creating sort of awedge yes, got it, and then
(20:59):
you're resting it.
Megan (21:01):
You have the wedge pointing up and then you're
resting your leg over the wedgeand your knee is over the point.
Yep, got it, not, okay, I'mtracking.
I thought you were talkingabout like a flat triangle and
I'm like I thought you weretalking about like a flat
triangle and I'm like what,pointing, like what?
You're good, I'm tracking.
Now, gotta got it.
Jimmy (21:17):
Make it like so everything thinks I do so,
mm-hmm, I'm tracking now.
All right, that's, it's allpretty good.
I Guess maybe I use triangularas too much of a shape, which
too much of a pointed shape, soit didn't make sense.
Maybe.
Megan (21:40):
Yeah, I was also picturing like a flat shape, not
like a pyramid type of we'retracking.
I'm just slow this morning.
One thing I will say about kneeinjuries, like actually really
any injury, is we've said itbefore, but I'm going to
reiterate um, go to the doctor,get it checked out.
Don't try to push Like this isone of the things when I was
(22:01):
coaching and working with kidsthat I would like push a lot.
I had a really bad knee injurywhen I was in high school and I
thought that I could pushthrough it.
I thought that, oh, whatever,it's fine, I'll just put a brace
on it and keep going, Like Idon't want to let the team down.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I just kept going and I hada partial subluxation.
(22:23):
So it's a partial dislocationand a little bit of which one?
I think it was my MCL.
One of the ligaments in yourknee tore just a tiny bit and if
I had stopped there and rest Iprobably could have been back in
a couple of weeks.
But instead I kept going, didn'tgo to the doctor, just kept
pushing for a couple of weeksuntil it got to the point where
(22:44):
I couldn't put any weight on myleg Like it would just give out.
And then eventually at thatpoint I went to the doctor and
they're like, oh yeah, this isbad, Like you're out for the
next couple of months, and I wason crutches and it was a whole
thing and it really drove thepoint home for me personally of
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just it's so much better to juststop where you are, get checked
out, let it heal, instead ofpushing, making it so much worse
.
And then you're out for double,triple, quadruple the amount of
time.
And so that was one of thethings that I always pushed when
I was coaching kids was, ifthey were hurt, I said, no, stop
, Get it checked out.
If you're good, great, Comeback tomorrow.
If you're not good, sit outuntil you're better, so that you
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don't push it and make it worse.
Jimmy (23:31):
Exactly.
I couldn't agree more.
It's better to miss a coupleweeks early in the season than
you know the more importantgames to the back of the season
and postseason stuff if yourteam's good enough to do that.
On that note, take it easy team, be safe, peace.
Hey, what's happening?
It's Jimmy and your girl Mags.
Hello.
Megan (00:07):
Hi Hi.
Jimmy (00:09):
You gotta talk.
I got Megan all fired up,bringing out my heated
athleticism what is an athlete,what's not an athlete
conversation?
We're not going to tell youwhat we were arguing about.
Yeah, we had to wake her upthis morning.
So we are going to talk aboutathletic injuries.
(00:32):
Some I've had, some I've seenand just kind of had to respond
to them.
So what you know you wouldn'tlook.
You know you really can't tell.
If I look at me anymore I'mmore pear-shaped than V-shaped,
but when I was younger I wasdefinitely.
(00:54):
I think I am still athletic,for you know who I am and you
know what my body type lookslike.
Now I'm not the athlete that Iused to be for sure.
Now I'm not the athlete that Iused to be for sure, but growing
(01:16):
up I played lots of sports,primarily football.
Growing up, a little bit ofmartial arts, growing up.
And as I got older Itransitioned to like most fellas
, I would say, got into golf andthose kind of things, and I
actually stopped playingfootball because of my shoulder
injury.
And I guess we'll start there,okay, my shoulder injury.
I tackled somebody on a kickoffand I tackled this really large
(01:41):
human and I dislocated myshoulder and my shoulder popped
out and I had basically three ofthe rotator cuff muscles torn.
Megan (01:53):
Oh fun.
Jimmy (01:56):
A nd I was still being recruited heavily to play
football and I knew therecruiters was in the stands so
I actually at halftime went inand they put it back into place.
And you know, at the time I wasyoung and dumb and different,
just time in life whereathletics were a big deal and
(02:21):
the coaches just wanted to win.
They didn't really totally careabout the kids.
I mean, my coaches cared aboutme and I'm actually in touch
with the head coach stillthrough social media.
It's kind of cool.
But he his wife was the trainerand he was just like you going
to play and I was like, yep,they put it back in and I would
(02:41):
have played.
Crazy, probably should have donethat To this day I would have
played Crazy.
Probably should have done that.
Megan (02:45):
To this day, I still have, I would argue, definitely
shouldn't have done that.
Jimmy (02:48):
Definitely not, definitely not.
So yeah, I went and played andended up destroying my shoulder,
and now I don't get to play atall anymore, and I still wake up
in the mornings, when it's coldand things like that, my
shoulder locks up and it's hardto move still and it just kind
(03:10):
of is what it is, mm-hmm.
So shoulder, how do we treatshoulder?
How do we respond to theshoulder injury?
So the thing that I always tellpeople is you know, depending
which way it's, you know, if theshoulder ball is out of the
socket, the head of the shoulderbones out.
(03:32):
Just don't put it back in.
It's extremely painful.
The muscles are going totighten up around it and protect
itself.
It and protect itself.
Mm-hmm.
So sling it.
So ace bandage or tally wrappedaround the arm and the torso.
(03:54):
A triangular bandage is bestmm-hmm you can use a sweatshirt.
Iactually my little brother's
baseball game years ago I thinkthe kid slid into third or was
playing third base.
I just remember it was at thirdbase and the kid's shoulder
(04:14):
kind of popped out back then andhe was just sitting in the
dugout just in crazy pain and Ihad walked up and I was like hey
, hey, can I help you, kind of athing.
And he's like yeah, you knowwhatever.
And I just took his sweater andI just took the sleeves and
tied around his neck and stuckhis arm into the torso part of
(04:37):
the sweatshirt and used it as atriangular bandage.
And he did and he was like man,I feel so much better mm much
better.
I arm doesn't have to hold upthat, so slinging it is huge.
Uh, when I went through my skipatrol class, they taught us
like seven different ways to doslings and splints for shoulders
(04:58):
and all this stuff.
I was like cool, like cool, whyyeah?
Megan (05:06):
I was always taught the swing and sling and swath.
So you sling it and then youswath it like tie it down to the
body, so it can't move fromthere, yeah.
Jimmy (05:15):
And that's realistically all you really need to do for a
shoulder injury.
Megan (05:20):
Yeah.
Jimmy (05:21):
And obviously calm down when it's needed.
You're probably going to haveto go to the emergency room.
Megan (05:25):
You're gonna be sad, yeah did I ever tell you about
my shoulder injury?
no I was on the wrestling teamand we were doing just matches
in practice and, um, to this dayI don't know exactly what
happened.
I kind of blacked out, but um,I was, she was trying to pin me
and I didn't want to be pinnedand I kept my arm out to the
(05:48):
side and she sort of flipped meover and just popped my shoulder
out and my friend who's on theteam she's still my friend to
this day was on like the otherside of the gym and heard it pop
out and my coach was um a lotand she was like keep going,
keep going.
And the girl who was on top ofme like felt my shoulder pop
through my body and was veryhesitant to keep going, but
(06:11):
coach kept yelling finish itflipper.
And so she kept going and Ijust kept rotating out, um, and
then at that point I gave up andjust flipped and got pinned
because I was in so much pain,sure, and then I popped it back
in myself because I have fun.
Fact, I have a genetic disorderwhere I just kind of pop out.
(06:33):
So it's not the end of theworld and I've dislocated my
shoulder before and popped itback in, but that was definitely
the worst one, because normallywhen I pop out I stop and get
it back in, but that time itkept going.
There was like it wasn't justmy body, it was somebody else's
body weight forcing it um, andlike nobody believed me because
(06:54):
I wasn't like screaming in agony, but I was in a lot of pain and
crying and um, and they werelike you're fine, it's not
dislocated.
I was like no, it super is um.
And then I tore stuff.
Obviously I don't know ifthat's obvious, but I tore stuff
(07:14):
, um.
And then, unfortunately, thatwas like two weeks before, uh,
ccs, our championship game game,that's not the word match and
so I was pulled from CCS, um,because I couldn't use my
shoulder properly because therewas a bunch of torn stuff in
there.
But yeah, and I I wish that Ihad not popped it back in myself
(07:40):
and I wish I had gone to thedoctor more than because I
definitely waited a couple ofdays.
And then I just still couldn'tmove my arm after a couple of
days.
And then I just still couldn'tmove my arm after a couple of
days and I was like something'swrong, yeah, yeah.
Jimmy (07:54):
I was um growing up I it was it went through a
rollerblading phase thatprobably a lot of guys my age
did, and you know know, becauseit was very similar to skiing,
and so we were doing likefreestyle skiing stuff on our
(08:14):
rollerblades.
Basically I was actuallygrinding a pipe that my buddy
had made in front of this houseand I fell off the pipe and
dislocated my shoulder and mybuddy actually yanked on it and
put it back in.
And while I was doing that,actually it called um another
(08:35):
friend whose mom was a nurse andhe's like let me call my mom,
and mom was like, actuallyworked in an orthopedic office.
So the doctor said I'll see,you just come in.
And I got there and I, since mybuddy pulled on it, he's like
it's back in place, he's like,but you probably tore stuff and
(08:57):
you know not a lot you can do atthat point except for put it in
the sling yeah so I was like,yeah, I shouldn't do that, so
let's talk about.
You should probably talk abouthow do we know it's out.
Well, the person will usuallyfill it, pop out and in yeah,
right, and if you can imaginewhere your shoulder and your arm
(09:18):
go together, that ball, thatmuscle mass, is going to be
either towards your belly buttonor towards your back, or up or
down, and it's usually going tobe pretty obvious yeah right.
If you can actually fill the topof the collarbone right, the
(09:38):
bone that goes across the top ofyour shoulder, you'll feel the
v and it'll end.
It'll point at the end of theshoulder joint and and if you
feel that and you can't feelthat there's a hole, there's
just a ball of the shoulder headsomeplace you know, towards the
tummy, towards the back, up ordown, you should probably get it
checked out.
(09:58):
I get a lot of in sports withmy kids and just around it's a
lot of that.
Is my finger dislocated, myfinger broken?
I don't know.
I don't have x-ray vision.
Those people don't.
If you do, let me know.
I hire you out for you know,birthday parties and sporting
(10:21):
events.
You know we'll make up somemoney but we look for is just
like any kind of deformity,especially in the fingers.
It's usually pretty obvious.
The thumb injuries are bigbecause you have a lot of that
big muscle and kind of stuff inyour hand or palm.
We had a kid coaching footballmy son's football team.
(10:48):
He was 12 or 13 at the time andone of the kids came over and
he was like hey, I think I brokemy thumb.
The coach sent him over to me.
I was kind of the de factocoach for injuries for the
organization, which was cool.
And he came over and I said,did you guys pull on it?
(11:08):
And they were like no.
And I was like yes, you did.
Everybody always pulls on thumbsand fingers and they feel like
it's jammed or hurt and they'relike, yeah, we jammed it, we
pulled on it and I said okay,and I wanted to know, because
the way it was, thediscoloration was happening and
I was like this doesn't lookright and it was kind of off at
an angle and so it definitelywas not in the socket.
(11:30):
And where the happening is iswhen they pulled on it and there
was a small hairline crack inthe small little bone and when
they yanked on it it broke moreyeah and they made them kind of
practice with it.
Oh, they're like it's just yourthumb, it's just a jam thumb,
(11:52):
it's just a jam finger, don'tworry about it.
And we moved it around, itbroke.
More so, the socket the u partof the socket of the thumb
actually was for lack of abetter word destroyed.
So we had this 10-year-old boywith a thumb that was basically
(12:17):
useless and he ended up being ina cast for like 10 weeks or
something like that for his fullU-bone to go back.
Megan (12:21):
I was going to say that sounds like he's out for the
rest of the season at least.
Jimmy (12:24):
He was definitely out.
So don't yank on fingers thatare jammed.
You know, if you can move them,cool, if you don't, that's okay
.
Like, if you can't move it,it's probably a problem.
Go get it checked out, um, letthe doctor x-ray and make sure
there's no things in there.
Um, I'll like so with fingers.
(12:45):
My son, he broke his fingerpretty bad, his junior,
sophomore year, sophomore year,jumping up and catching a
football and he jammed hisfinger and, him being my kid, he
yanked on it and put it backinto place, of course, of course
, and it ended up being thesecond bone in his fingertip.
(13:09):
So if you think of your, nailthe first joint and that second
bone before the middle joint,the big joint.
That bone was broken and theonly way to fix it was they had
to pin it.
And since he was an athlete andhe was getting on in the
baseball season, the doctoractually said well, since
(13:30):
baseball season is starting,we'll put a cover on it so you
can heal by itself.
And it was broken so badly thesplit didn't help, it just
didn't do anything.
So they were like alright, it'snot healing, let's put a pin in
it.
So they basically took a longcrochet needle if you can
(13:51):
imagine that and stuck thatthrough his fingertip.
Megan (13:54):
Exciting yeah.
Jimmy (13:56):
So he watched around with a finger you know, this nail
sticking out of his finger forabout four weeks, Did he?
Megan (14:03):
continue to play.
Jimmy (14:04):
He wasn't able to play baseball because he couldn't fit
in his glove.
Megan (14:08):
Oh, okay, fair, fair, fair, and that was his catching
hand.
Jimmy (14:10):
So if he caught a ball or something, it hurt pretty bad
yeah, and they were like, well,what if he pitches?
And I said if you can put aglove on him, it doesn't hurt,
we don't care if he pitches, buthe can't defend himself without
a glove and that and that'skind of a safety issue.
Yeah, so he didn't get to playfor a couple weeks, so he missed
a couple games, but ended upbeing a good season for him, um,
(14:31):
so that's your shoulder, yourhands.
I was, um, I don't do jujitsu alot.
I broke.
I've um, used to do jujitsu alot, but it's kind of it's rough
on the body.
They call it the gentle art arm,but it's hard on the body and I
actually was getting we werejust doing arm burn drills and
(14:52):
my elbow got caught in a weirdway and it ripped my forearm
muscles and the only thing theycould do was splint it and let
it rest.
And they said they could havesurgery on it.
And I said, well, what wouldthe surgery tell?
And they would say we would goin, scrape all the scar tissue
(15:15):
out of the ripped muscle andthen take all the viable muscle
and just sew it back together.
Oh yeah, and it was more of asteeple back together and I was
like well, what happens if Idon't do it?
And they were like nothing.
Megan (15:31):
It feels like that was a pretty easy choice there.
Jimmy (15:33):
Yeah, they were like if you're an Olympic athlete and
you needed your forearms forsomething, we would recommend it
just because.
Then I was like just because,or benefit.
And they were like just because.
And I was like, yeah, I'm notdoing that.
So now if I flex my forearm andturn it the right way, you can
(15:54):
see the indentation of my muscle, Like where it ripped Crazy.
There's like a little holethere.
It doesn't hurt, it doesn't doanything, it's fine.
But fun fact I was actuallyworking on an ambulance at the
time when that happened and Ishowed up to shift with this ace
bandage wrapped around hissplint and they're like I can
(16:21):
lift and carry things and Icould do probably one-handed CPR
.
I could do compressions with myleft hand.
They're like and I can drive.
And they're like okay, I'm likeI could work, it's not a big
deal, I need to work.
And they're like okay, I'm likeI could work, it's not a big
deal, I need to work.
And they were like all right,so I actually worked.
I think I ended up doing liketwo shifts on the ambulance with
(16:43):
my elbow, like that.
Megan (16:45):
Oh my gosh.
Jimmy (16:46):
Yeah.
Megan (16:47):
Sounds like it worked out though.
Jimmy (16:48):
Yeah yeah, I just had a fun story and a little deformity
.
So, joints, right, rice, what'sa rice?
Megan (17:02):
Do you remember Rest ice compression elevate.
Jimmy (17:09):
Yep, perfect.
That's really the best thing todo with joints until you get to
a doctor, right?
So rest it, ice it, compress it, grab something, you know,
that's really the best thing todo with joints until you get to
a doctor, Rest it, ice itcompress it, grab something not
super strong like a firmhandshake, wrap around it.
You don't want to create atourniquet and have your toes
turn black and fall off, so tospeak, or your fingers Just
(17:33):
tight, compression and keep itelevated.
Keep it elevated the best youcan.
So let's talk about real quicksport injuries with fingers.
We kind of brought up my son'sfinger, so the best thing to do
for fingers?
Obviously we're always, always,always, always get checked out
911.
None of this is medical advice.
(17:54):
This is something you can do inlieu of getting to the doctor
Splint, so splints for fingersafter a sport injury.
Ice cream sticks, popsiclesticks are awesome and just
taping the fingers togetherworks really good.
(18:14):
Body splinting Body splintingBody splinting Using a pen will
work Anything realistically.
You can't tape your thumb.
You can tape your thumb to yourhand.
It doesn't always make youcomfortable because it's your
thumb and you want to use itmore, but you can definitely do
that.
Popsicle sticks are better forthe thumb.
(18:38):
Everything else, including yourtoes, is just taped to itself,
taped to the body, anatomicalsplints.
So I guess knees would beanother one I have knee injuries
.
Um, it's going to be just likean elbow or shoulder injury.
(19:00):
You know, immobilize it, try tokeep it as mobile as you
possibly can.
I know, um, with volleyball,especially beach volleyball,
I've been told a common injuryis dislocated kneecaps from just
the torque and things like thaton the knees, extremely painful
(19:23):
.
Yes, the person can't move it,and a good way to split that is
just putting a pillow or lots ofblankets or a jacket like a
beach house, something like that, underneath it, make it kind of
like a triangle and then justkind of try to tape it all
together.
Megan (19:32):
What do you mean by make it like a triangle, like make
their leg like a triangle?
Jimmy (19:36):
No, no make the split, the blanket, whatever it is, as
triangular as possible, causethat person's leg is going to be
locked straight out or bent alittle bit and um, so just kind
of take that blanket and make ittriangular shape, cause that's
usually going to be moresupportive behind the knee and
like so the calf and the thigh,and just keep pushing the
(19:58):
comfort you know.
Lots of hugs, lots of kissesI'm gonna be honest, I'm still.
Megan (20:05):
What do you mean by a triangle?
Jimmy (20:07):
I'm sorry, I'm so lost so take the triangle like the
jacket or a blanket and justbunch it up and try to make it
look like a triangle.
Megan (20:19):
Okay, I'm with you on the shape of the triangle, but
what do you do with said like?
Jimmy (20:23):
is it pointing the triangle, pointing towards the
so the top of the point goesinto the knee and then the sides
of the triangle, one goes intothe calf and one goes underneath
the thigh.
Megan (20:33):
Okay, oh, got it.
Yeah, so you?
So you are trying to bend theirleg into a.
Jimmy (20:37):
Well, you don't have to never bend the leg right.
So we know you can't see usteam, probably for the best.
So I took my jacket off and Iactually took it in a kind of
triangular shape, so if you canimagine the knees here, it's
like you're creating sort of awedge yes, got it, and then
(20:59):
you're resting it.
Megan (21:01):
You have the wedge pointing up and then you're
resting your leg over the wedgeand your knee is over the point.
Yep, got it, not, okay, I'mtracking.
I thought you were talkingabout like a flat triangle and
I'm like I thought you weretalking about like a flat
triangle and I'm like what,pointing, like what?
You're good, I'm tracking.
Now, gotta got it.
Jimmy (21:17):
Make it like so everything thinks I do so,
mm-hmm, I'm tracking now.
All right, that's, it's allpretty good.
I Guess maybe I use triangularas too much of a shape, which
too much of a pointed shape, soit didn't make sense.
Maybe.
Megan (21:40):
Yeah, I was also picturing like a flat shape, not
like a pyramid type of we'retracking.
I'm just slow this morning.
One thing I will say about kneeinjuries, like actually really
any injury, is we've said itbefore, but I'm going to
reiterate um, go to the doctor,get it checked out.
Don't try to push Like this isone of the things when I was
(22:01):
coaching and working with kidsthat I would like push a lot.
I had a really bad knee injurywhen I was in high school and I
thought that I could pushthrough it.
I thought that, oh, whatever,it's fine, I'll just put a brace
on it and keep going, Like Idon't want to let the team down.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I just kept going and I hada partial subluxation.
(22:23):
So it's a partial dislocationand a little bit of which one?
I think it was my MCL.
One of the ligaments in yourknee tore just a tiny bit and if
I had stopped there and rest Iprobably could have been back in
a couple of weeks.
But instead I kept going, didn'tgo to the doctor, just kept
pushing for a couple of weeksuntil it got to the point where
(22:44):
I couldn't put any weight on myleg Like it would just give out.
And then eventually at thatpoint I went to the doctor and
they're like, oh yeah, this isbad, Like you're out for the
next couple of months, and I wason crutches and it was a whole
thing and it really drove thepoint home for me personally of
(23:06):
just it's so much better to juststop where you are, get checked
out, let it heal, instead ofpushing, making it so much worse
.
And then you're out for double,triple, quadruple the amount of
time.
And so that was one of thethings that I always pushed when
I was coaching kids was, ifthey were hurt, I said, no, stop
, Get it checked out.
If you're good, great, Comeback tomorrow.
If you're not good, sit outuntil you're better, so that you
(23:29):
don't push it and make it worse.
Jimmy (23:31):
Exactly.
I couldn't agree more.
It's better to miss a coupleweeks early in the season than
you know the more importantgames to the back of the season
and postseason stuff if yourteam's good enough to do that.
On that note, take it easy team, be safe, peace.
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