"Split Second" Part 2 Ft The QuadFather

When life knocks you down, it's not the fall that defines you, but how you choose to get back up. Maximilian Gross, lovingly known as the Quad Father, joins us to share a powerful saga of service, sacrifice, and the unrelenting will to survive. His pre-Army days, and the life-altering accident – each moment is a puzzle piece in the portrait of a man who refuses to be defined by his circumstances. Max's story is a vivid reminder of the fragility of life and how dramatic life can change in a split second. 

Hospital beds and lonely nights could've been the end for Max, but they were just the beginning of a different kind of battle. Max pulls back the curtain on his darkest hours, from the shock of awakening paralyzed neck down, to the relentless pursuit of independence. Max's account of his accident and recovery doesn't just tug at heartstrings; it's a resounding battle cry for anyone facing their own uphill climb. 

"Life to the Max" isn't just a catchy podcast title; it's a creed by which Max and his faithful friend Eric live. They've turned setbacks into comebacks, embracing the unpredictability of life to forge genuine connections and chase dreams with unyielded vigor. As Max recounts his shift from bootcamp in the army, to the conversational rush of podcasting, you'll be inspired by tales of trust, friendship, and seizing the day. With every episode, Max, Eric, and their diverse lineup of guests prove that no matter the obstacles, life is there for the taking – and living life to the max is a choice we can all make.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:00):
It's what we do and shit to prove we're living life,
living life to the max.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Living life to the max, Just like my dad, I guess
what?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
What?
Oh my God, we're back and wegot Styglystix with us.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
He was here for the first episode.
He was here for the first.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
And we got Omar the pro skater.
He became a Worldwide.
Damn, that's crazy.
I just realized Omar's mic isnot working.
Great start.
Oh, my mic is not working, Idon't know why.
What up, gang.
It's Omar Sandoval, back in theLife to the Max podcast.

(00:51):
Happy to be here.
Yes, sir, everybody, welcomeback to another episode of Life
to the Max.
And this isn't just a regularepisode on Life to the Max, this
is not a regular interview.
This is part two to the quadfather, his story, because we
got people in the comments likedang, that's crazy.
What happened Leo?
Dang?
That's crazy.
What happened to Trey?
Dang?
That's crazy.
What happened to Colonel Smith?

(01:11):
Dang, that's crazy what but 60mother f I can't keep up.
I can't keep up.
But there's comments.
There's people who don't knowwho the f Max gross is.
There's people who don't knowwho the quad father is.
There's people who don't knowwhat happened to him.
Why are you in the wheelchair,max?

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Basically, this is split second part two.
It's going to be nice to goover because I was in a really
dark police turn.
Split second part one and nowwe can put it on YouTube.
People can figure out, like,what actually happened to me and
I'm excited to talk about it.

(01:46):
I'm not excited to talk aboutit because it sucks talking
about it, but I'm excited totell the people.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
I'm excited to see you tell the people yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
So basically all right guys.
So what's my name is Max?
No, my name is Max Gross.
All right, and I live in SouthAlligene Illinois, and I lived
here my whole life.
I was with my family, you know,college and high school, you

(02:17):
know, just being stupid and Ithought I was too dumb to go to
college.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
So I said yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Marine Corps.
I was going to go to the MarineCorps and the guys like okay,
you could be a cook.
And I'm like I'm not doing that, fuck that.
You know what I mean.
Like I'm not doing that I wantto be a sniper.
Like I want to do some reallyhardcore shit.
So I went to the Army and theysaid you could be a left and
bravo.

(02:47):
So I was like okay, cool, youknow.
And I'm at boot camp and I'mlike fuck, why did I make this
mistake?
You know what I mean.
Like the second day, everybodylooks the same, we're all bald
and shit.
Yeah, we're all getting fuckedup for stupid reasons.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
So nobody can keep their hair.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
No, nobody.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Even high and tight.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
No, like in boot camp .
You're a fucking.
No, you're fucked.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, it sucks.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Well, it doesn't suck because it sucked, right.
I mean like fucking.
Like you had 50 people and theywere taking shits all the time
and stuff.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
You're all the same room.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
But anyways, I went to 11 Bravo, I was in infantry
right and I got stationed at 4Campbell, kentucky, screaming
Eagles, 101st Airborne Divisionand I was like super stoked and
my unit was actually the Band ofBrothers unit.
If anybody just know, the HBOspecial Band of Brothers was the

(03:55):
first people who actuallyjumped out of airplanes and went
on Airborne in the beaches ofNormandy, france.
So when I heard I got in thewater, chosen to go there, I was
like I'm going to make sure,like our ancestors, the people

(04:20):
who risked their lives for WorldWar II in the beaches of
Normandy, I'm going to make themproud.
So I'm going to live up to thisunit's name, you know.
So I got to the unit, gottreated like shit, you know,
fucking watering flowers in thepouring rain, like just stupid

(04:45):
shit.
You know.
Like amazing, yeah, totally.
But then I like, just likefocused on my craft, went to the
gym, ran a lot and I startedgetting really, really good and
like people started to noticeand then they're like well, we
can't make fun of Groves anymorebecause he's better than like

(05:06):
me and everything you know.
So then I got to try out toscout the scout platoon, which
is like scout sniper platoon andthen the trial was fucking hard
.
It was hard as shit.
But I like first place, likeeverything which I was super
proud of.
Then with the scout platoon,you know that's when, like all

(05:28):
the high speed, like cool shithappened, like like doing a,
like, you know, blowing upgrenades and shit like that.
You don't do that in theregular line infantry.
You just do a bunch of bullshit.
You know, like, when you'relike really good platoon, like
the scout platoon, then you'redoing like like this shit, like
jumping out of airplanes andlike fucking going to aerosols

(05:51):
school, all that stuff.
So it was fun and I wasclimbing the ranks and, yeah, I
really enjoyed it.
Sometimes I was like thisfucking sucks, you know, and.
But I had a friend there andhis name was Nicholson and we
were like best friends and yeah,this is when.

(06:17):
So I joined the military in 2014.
And at the end of the beginningof 2016, right after we did a
field exercise, I took Nicholson.
Nicholson was talking to a girlback home with me, you know,
and he wanted to come up with me.

(06:38):
This is the first time Ibrought someone with me, but I
used to drive this fucking eighthour drive like straight.
You know what I mean.
It's the first time I everbrought someone with me.
So I was like super stokedbecause I was like fuck, I don't
have to drive halfway, like youknow, and I don't have to drive
the whole way, and yeah, likeso it was just like a normal day

(07:03):
.
I woke up, I did PT, likephysical training in the
military I got leave and we leftat like 5.30.
You know what I mean.
And I drove dude, okay.
So for all the people who arelistening, I remember this so

(07:24):
vividly when I was at the gasstation filling up right outside
gate four of Hunter, first ormore division, fill it up for
the ride, right?
I remember saying you know, doyou want to drive first or I'll
drive first?
And he was like I'll drivefirst.
And I was like okay, and thenpause for like two seconds.

(07:47):
I was like you know what?
Actually I'll drive first.
And he was like okay, you know.
So I literally could have savedmy life right there, but I
didn't.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
I drove first.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
You know what I mean, and the reason why I drove
first is because, obviously, Iwant to wake up to my home.
So my birthday is March 21st.
The accident happened March24th, right?
So I was going to celebrate mybirthday with my family, my
girlfriend it was just going tobe a great time and Zach, my

(08:22):
best friend in the military, isfinally going to meet this girl
that he likes.
You know that I introduced himto from my hometown, you know.
So it just seemed like superfun time, but I chose to drive
first.
Fast forward drive first.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
What time is it when you guys started driving back
home?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
I said 5.30, right.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Back home or.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
You guys left the base.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Like 5.45.
So we would have got there liketwo, yeah, and my girlfriend
and Jess were waiting for us.
They were waiting for us.
You know what I mean.
So I drive first with thismusic which I love, and I drive

(09:08):
to Tarot, indiana.
And remember, just text all mygirls and be there soon.
You know, all of you can't waitto see you.
And we're about to go.
We start driving.
He's driving now, I'm not.
So he's driving from Tarot toChicago.

(09:29):
Now, that's right, and I'm.
I remember just putting my seatback and saying, alright, man,
wake me up when we get close tohome so I can help you out.
You know, put my seat back,close my eyes, boom, I don't
know where.
Just this hazing, like thisgazing light you know what I

(09:53):
mean?
Just flashing, fluttering redlights, you know you can't, and
my mouth opening and closing,you know, and not being able to
do anything and just completelylike, just like ding, you know
what I mean, like that type oflike sound, you know, and just

(10:14):
literally, just in the car.
I don't know if we were flippedover or not, but I just
remember, just just I remember,like what the fuck is going on.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
I thought it was a dream.
Yeah, it's traumatizing youknow what I mean.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
I thought it was a dream, you know.
But then I like do I keep myeyes open?
I'm dying.
Do I keep my eyes open or do Iclose my eyes?
And, like you know, we have a.
We had a guest, ross, who wentthrough the same thing.
He was like should I keep myeyes open or should I close them
?

Speaker 3 (10:47):
So what do you mean?
He kept his eyes open.
Can you feel anything liketemperature pressure?

Speaker 1 (10:51):
no, no literally just the ding and noise and like,
just like this, like blurryvision, you know, and just all I
hear is gross, gross that's mylast name, by the way.
Gross, are you okay?
Gross, gross.
And all I was able to do, Idon't know how I was able to do

(11:15):
it, maybe because it wasn'tbecause I had a fucking hole in
my throat.
Maybe I was able to say gethelp, you know.
So then I'm in a coma and all Ikeep seeing is this vision of
me in the car, you know, withthe red lights.

(11:37):
Lights, you know, that's all Ican see.
For the whole time I'm in thecoma, that you know.
So, fucked up.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
How long have I been in the coma for bro.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
I think it was two days, so I was coming up for a
good Friday and then I I woke upon Easter you know what I mean
From my coma and apparently alot of people visited me and I
want to thank those people whovisited me.
That one I was in a coma.
I didn't know, I didn't know.

(12:10):
And, like you know, shots, codyWolfe shots, you know, racial
ponds, carols are all these likepeople that really like work by
my side, like when it firsthappened, and shout out to all
the people on Facebook thatreached out.
And just like you know, randompeople that, like I thought,

(12:30):
didn't even like, just hate mein high school.
They're like feeling bad onFacebook Like this guy is a good
guy.
He doesn't deserve whathappened.
Now you know cause it was allover Facebook.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, you used the whole, the whole city, the whole
city posting about you.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
It was crazy.
Even Eric saw you.
Sorry, it's crazy yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
It's the whole city of South Elgin.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, cause I don't know, like I was friends with a
bunch of different groups, youknow, those friends of them.
You know like, just likethey're like this guy's just,
you know, in the military,trying to make it like, and then
this shit happens, you know.
So now I'm in the hospital, allright, and I wake up and this

(13:18):
is that Sunday, right yeah.
Yeah, I wake up, in the firstperson I see is my girlfriend,
and then I see a bunch of likefucking doctors and white coats
and I see my family and they'reall surrounding the bed.
You know, and my mom told meMax, I have to tell you

(13:40):
something.
You're paralyzed and I'm likewhat?
And she's like but you're goingto the best hospital in the
world for this, our realizationsto Chicago.
You're going to the best place,the best, the best, and they're
going to cure you.
And I'm thinking like, okay,this is going to be like

(14:00):
bootcamp.
I just have to, you know, likesuck it up.
I have to, like do everything Ihave to do.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
That's a good perspective to have.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
That's what I was thinking.
I just thought, like I thoughtit was, like you know, running a
mile, like like I used to run amile.
For me it's 19 seconds, Okay,so like I didn't get to do that
unless I trained and I would dosprints, you know, and I'll do
everything possible to make myrunning time more faster.
So I thought, oh, therapy isworking out.

(14:31):
Yeah, now you're doing mentalsprints, yeah exactly, and so I
was, and so this happened anhour away from my house.
I was an hour away from home,which was crazy.
So like it was right there, youknow.
And then you know I'm not goingto go through the little
hospital situations, but I wasin the ICU for like five days of

(14:55):
different world man, like theywere turning me.
I didn't feel it.
They were like saying they'redoing a bowel program, like what
the fuck is that?
And it's basically to like youknow shit, you know.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Oh, a bowel program.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, a bowel program , yeah.
And so then I get to RIC.
This place is shitty, bro.
I'm thinking it's going to bethis modern, nice, contemporary
place.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
That's what I was going to say Last time you told
the story you said it was.
You woke up to like somebullshit.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, dude, like.
So I get there on April 5th,april 5th, I get there, 2016.
And this is the first nightthat I'm not alone.
This is the first time aloneand, mind you, I just get to
this new hospital.
I can't breathe, I can't move,I can't feel anything.

(15:46):
I'm paralyzed from the neckdown and I can't breathe.
I'm on a ventilator and they'rejust fucking with the settings
and stuff and like it's likefucking with my breathing, like,
imagine, like the settings ofwhat?

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Sorry, the settings of what?
The ventilator, oh, theventilator.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, like they're saying like oh, he needs this
instead you know what I meanLike you can change.
Anyways, what so?

Speaker 2 (16:11):
they were adjusting your ventilator for the first
time and you're just feelingdifferent settings.
You're not even communicatingwith you.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
They're just changing the way your lungs are
operating With buds, juststaring at his face Like,
imagine that feeling I couldn'ttalk Like at first.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
you're like what the fuck?
They're like, oh, slow it down,slow it down.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
They're calm as fuck.
They're like no, not that one.
How about this one?
That's too slow.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Raise it up a little bit.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
And there was a machine when my heart rate would
go past 120.
That means like I'm likefreaking out.
You know I always go like da,da, da, da, da and all those
machines used to scare the fuckout of me, dude, like, because I
can't see what it looks like.
You know, I'm sitting in thisbed, you're hearing a loud
beeping noise.

(16:56):
I have a fucking collar on, youknow, and I can't eat, I can't
drink, I can't do anything and Ican't talk.
I can't talk.
I couldn't talk for 15 days.
15 fucking days, I couldn'ttalk.
Can you imagine that Try andtalk to the girl you love and
you can't?
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
She can't talk for 15 days.
That'd be great.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
I'm just saying like she couldn't understand what I
was going through because Icouldn't tell her.
Do you know what I?

Speaker 3 (17:26):
mean.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Or my family couldn't understand.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
You're a prisoner in your own mind.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, it was the scariest fucking thing.
And then, like they're saying,ok, we're going to do this,
we're going to do that, and youhave to just fucking feel
defeated and say, ok, you know.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Right, no, we just love it.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
The first time I'm alone at RAC and of course I get
this nurse that just doesn'tgive a fuck about me over the
night, and I like so the way Iwould call for my nurses.
There would be a straw next tome and I would blow and the call

(18:07):
they would turn on, you know,and I would be calling for the
nurse and she wouldn't come.
She wouldn't come, man so like.
And there's this respiratorytherapist, charles Barkstahl.
He was military.
He was telling me OK, I seearmy stuff in your arms, army

(18:30):
too, you know.
And I was freaking out so muchabout my breathing that like I
felt more comfortable on it andmove back, which is a bag that
you put on your neck, like puton the tray, can you squeeze to
get air in.
That's how, like I felt morecomfortable with someone
squeezing air into me than amachine.
You know, it's just crazy.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
So crazy yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
And this is the first night, so the second, I, my
family, comes and I'm like, justlike I'm trying to tell them,
like, like the nurse, the nursewants to take her heart in.
Like, exactly the talk you knowand they understood it,
no-transcript.
The nurse got on, so myfamily's sleeping on a cot.

(19:19):
For two months I had agirlfriend at the time they're
just sleeping on cots to bethere for me, which was amazing.
Then, finally, I had thecourage to be able to sleep on
my own and trust the nurses somuch trust the nurses.
The first time I was at allalone.

(19:42):
It was scary, but I got throughit.
They gave me my own room.
I used to be with a person, butthey gave me my own room.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
You had a roommate?
Yeah, you had the samesituation as yours.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
No, he was a drunk driver and he was driving the
car and he couldn't move morethan me.
He was getting off of the vet.
He was on a ventilator too.
He was on the vet, but he wasgetting off of it.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Oh okay, did you guys ever communicate or say what do
you try to do?

Speaker 1 (20:14):
I fucking hate you Because he was getting off of
the vet.
He's a drunk driver.
I didn't do anything wrong.
I'm stuck on this vet.
I can't move, I can't doanything.
When I got my own room, mybrother's like this is your TV,
hold on.
He goes to some thrift storeand brings some fucking TV to

(20:38):
the hospital.
He's like is there too good?
Do you guys got a table orsomething?
My brother's going to watch TVon this, not that crap, all
right.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
The Haspel TVs are.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, so he did that.
He showed up to my lawyer andhe bought me an Apple TV and I
was watching BetterShip and FoodNetwork.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
You're watching Garfield too.
The prices right, you'rewatching what you.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
But then so I get through it.
I was at RAC for like sevenmonths and I am thankful for all
of the fucking therapists thatdid not give up on me.
I'm thankful for Sarah yeah,not Sarah, but I think it's
Sarah.
She was my OT, my occupationaltherapist, and the first time

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she ever put a mouth stick in mymouth, which is a stick to
allow me to communicate with myfriends on my phone, if I learn
how to do it.
I got so offended.
I was like get this shit awayfrom my mouth, because I thought
I was going to move my hands.
I got in my arms, you know, Iwas like it's kind of

(21:49):
discouraging, like having aperson four weeks in and say to
him hey, you want to try a mouthstick?
Or hey, this is how you'regoing to drive your wheelchair
with a sip and puff.
Like what the fuck's a sip andpuff?
You have to blow and then youhave to suck, to fucking, like
so to stop the wheelchair.

(22:11):
It's crazy.
It was a whole different world,you know, but I chose to
fucking.
You know like learn the worldrather than to give up, you know
.
And so shout out to Sarahbecause she didn't, like I was
with my girlfriend after thatleft me after two months and it

(22:32):
was terrifying One because shewas there and two it was
heartbreaking because I know itwas young love and I couldn't I
can't explain it.
Like it was just like all I wasthinking about was like oh,
she's fucking someone right nowand I'm sitting in bed and I
can't do shit about it.

(22:54):
I can't get up, I can't go workout, I can't do anything.
Don't, like, you know, get mymind off of it.
You know, but shout out toSarah because she got me to use
some house stick again and Istarted talking to a girl at
Demi and it worked out.
And then we I moved from theRAC to the VA.

(23:15):
That's where I met my friendJoe.
He was on Brothers in ArmsReunited, which was a podcast.
He's one of my best friends.
I met him at the VA and we usedto do funny shit, like we would
chill and like there was aplace that, like the Prott

(23:36):
Martini's, was a fucking.
So you were.
They were in my room, yeah, andI was with my girl at the time,
demi Shout out to Demi and I wasjust having a good time and I
got so fucking gluttonous, sogreedy, that I started messaging
other girls Like and this girlis like fucking damn near like

(23:59):
putting shit up my dick to likemake sure I piss.
Yeah, like a catheter, likeshe's learning how to do all
these things.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
You know your girlfriend at the time.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, my new one, yeah yeah, and I'm talking to
other girls, so I'm sorry if Ihurt you.
Okay, all right.
So so for the VA the VA, thebest part of the VA was Chuck,
because I met Chuck.
Chuck's a great guy, fuckingawesome dude.
He was seven years older thanme and we would always just like

(24:33):
fuck around and get high.
I'd be like smoking outside of,like a federal man At this
facility.
Yeah, dude, we would smoke out.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Who's?
How are you getting weed?

Speaker 1 (24:44):
My friend Kevin Roddy was who's bringing in?
Yeah you'd bring it up along.
You would smoke in the fuckingroom.
No, no, we would go outside.
I was gonna say we would smokeand then they would start
dripping like junk because therewas like a police officer.
I'm like, what the fuck is hegonna do here?
He calls me.
I'm fine, yeah thanks.
You know.
So I started like just fucking,all right, I get on February

(25:06):
1st 2017.
I know I'm making this a longstory, but I want people to feel
the vigor, the fucking, therelentless fear that people went
through that I went through,you know, like it's just shit's
scary.
You know what I mean.
And so you know, and we live inmy old house, which was smaller

(25:29):
, and I'm like partying with abunch of people that I don't
even know that just messaged me.
I messaged just one person onFacebook.
He messaged me back.
I was like, yeah, you want tochill.
And then, like he invitedsomeone, then he invited someone
, then they started invitingsomeone.
I got like eight people in thissmall ass room.
I spoke to one of the fuckingone in the morning with me.
You know, just street chillingfive and having a good time.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
How do you feel that?
That felt good, though right,like you kind of felt like it
was the old days.
Like the old days it did yeah,no 100%, I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
What sucked is like there was girls and I was
wondering, like if they'reactually into me or like it's
like they feel bad for me.
That was the only thing thatsucked, most of the part.
Yeah, it was fun.
I was smoking with friends, youknow doing edibles, fucking,
just having a good time, youknow vibe it.
And then my dad's like I can'thandle this, it's too loud.

(26:23):
You're right above my room.
So he's like let's move.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
And we moved to the house we're in right now, which
is this huge mansion?

Speaker 1 (26:33):
And like people always ask me, like why did you,
why did you get such a bighouse?
And then I tell them like well,me and my dad moved here.
You know it's my house, butlike we moved here and in the
basement it's just a chill assplace with a fucking bar, nice
ass area to hang out withfriends and I would just be like

(26:55):
smoking dabs with people.
It's yeah, just straight goinghard.
You know like clean?

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Did you smoke dabs before the accident?

Speaker 1 (27:04):
No.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Your first time doing dabs post paralyzed.
Yeah, holy shit, that is insane.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, I got fucked up .
I was talking to a few girlsand then the VA.
The money starts coming inright from the VA and I'm like,
okay, party.
I'm like let's do this.
Yeah, so I'd go to the city.
If I can go to a club, you know, get some girls fucking have a

(27:32):
great time with my friends, myso called friends.
They're not here anymore.
They're not here.
People need to realize that itfelt good in the moment.
I felt like the ship, but thenI'm like, damn, I'm paying for
everybody right now.
But it felt good in the moment,you know.
And then, yeah, we're fine, andwhere I clubs, I'm like I just

(27:54):
strip clubs.
I'm saying like I want thiswhole room to myself.
You know, kristal and I likemake sure that, like fucking,
three girls are in the room andI want them to switch out every
15 minutes.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah, make them always yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
And then, like I'll see, like this one girl wanted
to stay with me, I'll see you inthe next rotation.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, she had a nice shift yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
She got so pissed she didn't fucking come back for
whatever.
Fuck her.
Anyways, yeah, so that happenedand guess what I'm like?
You know what I'm donesupplying like people need to
like match with me or bringstuff, or I'm not doing it right
.
And they all left Everyone, allthe girls, all the friends.

(28:40):
So I'm alone and they're justlike wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
I'm just kidding, so I'm alone.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
I'm alone in this room, I'm just watching TV and a
caregiver at the time they werelike you know make out with me
and stuff and shout out to herbecause Wait.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
One of the nurses who were taking care of you.
No nurses caregiver.
So like a female Eric yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Someone through the state would take care of me and
like, shout out to her for doingthat because, like you know,
like you're giving me physicalaffection.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
How did you?
How did that happen?
Did you get a gesture?

Speaker 1 (29:20):
one day randomly or she was my caregiver, my brother
found her and she was cool asfuck, I don't know we would just
be like chilling and smokingand she would be cuddling with
me and I'd actually feel like aperson and I'd say yeah.

(29:44):
And the only thing I don't likeis she introduced me to a bunch
of websites that I would nevergo on.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Like rodincom.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
No, like Rosebrides, it's like a website where you
talk to girls in differentcountries, or whatever.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
She put you on to that.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah, she put me on to that, or it's seeking
arrangements.
She put me on and then that'dbe, so I was spending hell of
money on fucking.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Oh shit, horsely, coming down to this, I thought
it was like a viewing website.
You're paying for women to yeah.
What are you paying for?

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Come to my house Because I'm so fucking depressed
Because all my friends left andthese girls are doing the same
thing.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
I'm just fucking paying them.
Kissed any of them?

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, only the ones that were 500.
You're not allowed to kiss.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Oh, the cheap ones are pretty ugly.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
The cheap ones were okay, I just had them over.
I had them over to dance infront of my Like, in front of my
few friends that still cameover and stuff.
And I got screwed over by a lotof women back then and now
still, you know, back then it'sprobably like you know, I don't
know, maybe a year ago, but yeah, I got screwed over by a lot of

(31:01):
women.
Anyways, me and my dad, wedon't get along.
So he moves out, I moveupstairs, I'm stuck in this
little ass room waiting for myother room to get completely.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
In this house, yeah, in this house.
How'd you get upstairs?

Speaker 1 (31:19):
My dad used to live up here.
Didn't work out, so you know.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Oh, this is upstairs.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, yeah yeah, so this is upstairs and I'm in the
room by the elevator, you know,there's like no space.
That's my room, we put my bedin there, everything, and I'm
still having girls over, youknow.
And I just started focusing ontherapy and my sister found this

(31:46):
place called Next Steps and Iwould go to it all.
Shout out to John O'Connor forepisode 50.
He owns Next Steps, you knowLike, but I would go there.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
So what's the timeframe of you getting out,
like coming home from thehospital and then your friends
leaving you Like friends fuckingoff?

Speaker 1 (32:05):
So I got home from the hospital February 1st 2017.
I would say one year 2018.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
They were around for one year.
One year when you cut off themoney and drugs and fun stuff
they were left gone 12 months,that sucks, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
So 12 months I felt like the shit.
And then another 12 months I'mjust having random people over,
you know, just to like and I'mnot, and for everybody listening
, I'm not having these girlsover just like fuck.
I'm having these girls over tolike, you know, enjoy female
companionship and like you knowlike to fucking cuddle with shit

(32:42):
.
They have like physicalaffection.
Because I'm paralyzed from theknockdown, I can't go outside
and like find someone.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, it's not literally like,oh, I'm calling a hoe over.
I'm calling a hoe over to likeride my dick.
That I can't feel.
No, that's not it at all.

(33:02):
Anyways, I started doing therapy, I started fucking doing really
good.
You know like my life's gettingtogether.
I'm still like a little upset,you know sad, like the driver
Nicholson.
He didn't stay around.
He used to come up here youknow fuck around with this girl
and he kind of like used myhouse and he would leave, but so

(33:23):
we didn't work out as friends.
Like I haven't talked in fiveyears, but I hope he's doing
good.
You know, and I wouldn't havesaid that in the first episode.
This is my like.
My perspective has completelychanged.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
I remember that you were going off, you were saying
names cursing on the floor.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah, just fucking just completely.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
You had a gender-wishing death.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Like a kill.
I literally did.
Yeah, I literally had a hitlist.
It was crazy.
I was going hard.
You know, I apologize for mybehavior because that's how I
felt at the time, but myperspective has changed after 60
plus episodes of Life to theMax, you know, which is what I'm

(34:10):
going to get to.
So Nicholson he didn't stayaround and I would have friends
over.
You know, I would have like acertain friends over that I used
to have back then and my cousinwould come over, but I would
mostly be alone.
Like from 2018 to 2021, I wasmostly alone.

(34:32):
It was crazy.
Chuck, you know, chuck from theVA came here and moved
downstairs so I did have him.
We would hang out like I mean.
So I guess I wasn't alone.
But then I started like gettinga throw pain called glass and
pharyngeal and I just never wantto get up out of bed.

(34:54):
You know, I hated it Sucked.
I still have it to this day,but I fight through it, you know
.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yeah, because didn't you say it hurts when you talk
sometimes.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Oh, it's hurting right now, but I'm doing it
because why is there me and you?
Be quiet when you have a voice,you just have to, like, deal
with the pain.
You know to go with the punches.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
When did the throw pain like first come?

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Around 2018, like six .

Speaker 2 (35:25):
So two years no throw pain.
And then one day you just wokeup with throw pain.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah, like broken glass, like swallowing nerves.
It was crazy.
Still hurts to this day.
It hurts right now talking toyou guys, but I'm doing it right
now, you know, because I don'tcare, I don't fucking, I'm over
it.
You know, like that's becauseof this guy.
So in 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, Ihad like I had like friends

(35:55):
over, but it wasn't like everyday, you know.
Like, luckily, I had like youknow, sam, she would come over
and like she was my caregiver,she would play video games and
stuff.
So that was cool, I did MattFerrara, you'd come over and you
guys all kiss Play video games.
I mean no, not her.
No, she was.

(36:15):
She was more like a dude friend.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
You said Matt kissed you right.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
It's not a percent.
I was just kidding, yeah, butlike, yeah, that was like me,
people I was looking at likeplaces to live and stuff, just
just.
But at the same time I wasstruggling, man, like I didn't
know who was going to take careof me the night of you know,
because I only had six hours ofnursing.

(36:42):
So I had six hours of nursesand the rest is through state.
So my mom was doing all theschedule in through state to
find like people to take care ofme random people on the street.
You know what I mean.
And it was terrifying, fuckingterrifying.
I didn't bring that up.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
I wanted you to emphasize how terrifying it is
to trust someone to know how tosave your life, just in case,
something bad starts, andespecially in your situation,
because you actually had aregistered nurse that didn't
give a shit about you at thatone spot.
So how are you going to feelwhen that stranger's on the
street?
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Some strangers were better than nurses, though you
know.
I believe that yeah, you know,like some strangers, like you
know, helped you more, but itwas terrifying.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
So what.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
A lot of people called in.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
When did you start getting like a consistent
rotation of nurses?

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Okay, so that's around 2020.
Like, I was able to get a grantthrough the VA and they got me
the coverage.
I had 24-hour care.
You know, I like just chilling.
One day I'm upset and Ericmessages me.
I messaged him back then when Iwas partying, Back in 2017,

(38:00):
like just straight partying, Ithought I'd bring him away with.
I liked his rap, I knew himfrom high school.
And he messaged me back in 2018or something and he messaged me
back in 2021.
And he's like what's up, man,Like how you been?
Like, and Keith's going throughhis shit too, I guess, like he

(38:26):
never went into the stock market.
He can't sleep, he's fuckingsweating.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
We don't have to get into details on it, yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
And he's going through some shit too, like a
lot.
So he messaged me because andI'm telling him how much I ate,
my life and all this stuff and Isaid I got to go to a parade
Because he's like when do youwant to hang out?
I'm like I got to go to aparade, like on Saturday, if you

(38:57):
want to come, or Sunday.
And he was like yeah, man, sureI'll come.
So he comes and he doesn'trealize I'm leading the parade,
yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
I don't remember him telling me that.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
He doesn't realize I'm leading the parade.
I mean, eric, we're talkinglike in the midst of it.
Then all of a sudden they'relike OK, ready.
And I'm like, if you're ready,he's like I guess I'm ready, you
ready, and we go through WestIndy to do the parade.
Then I go to the VA.
People are coming up to me.
They're like Max, you did sogood.

(39:35):
You know like good job, I hopeyou're doing good.
You know like, just treat melike a fucking child.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
I was going to say, did they have like their hands
on their knees, like looking ata shoe?

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, like some stupid shit.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Changing their tone.
They were like yeah, sal, soyou want to meet at the bar at
the parade?

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Yeah, oh hey, max, you want a cookie.
Yeah, like, how are you?
You did such a good job, eric.
Like turns to me.
He's like bro, does that shitfucking annoy you?

Speaker 2 (40:07):
People might think that me and Max knew each other
in high school, but we didn't.
This is my first time evermeeting Max, you know.
So keep in mind, like when youfirst meet someone, there's like
a social norm to when you askcertain personal questions, you
know.
And I just had to turn to Maxand be like does that shit
bother you, bro?
Does it bother you?

(40:27):
And Max is like what there'swhat bothers me, the fucking
talking about?
And I'm like the way they talkto you, like you're a fucking
puppy.
I'm like are you sick?
Are you dying?
Max is like no, and I'm like doyou understand what I'm saying?
And he's like, yeah, I fuckinghate it.
He's like you want to get outof here.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
I'm like, yeah, let's fucking go, we want to go.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
He's like you drive my van, like dude I drive.
Fedex trucks, let's go.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
I'm not telling him man.
Hey, I'm leaving with Eric,she's like who's?

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Eric, I'm talking to Eric.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
And then we go to my crib.
He sees my house and he'sprobably like well, it's like a
fucking big house.
And then you come over, hefucking invites you.
That was the day.
That was the day.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Yeah, you go over pray that comes over.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
We all.
I got us all food.
I forgot what I got JimmyJohn's, Jimmy John's.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
We had Jimmy John's, yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
And Skid time, and then you're like, you're like
Skid time, and then I just saidher name, bro.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Look, you just said her name, she calling.
She calling you literally saidher name and my phone started
ringing.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
My phone was like the file later.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Yeah, anyways, yeah, so burn that.
All of them, come over.
And these are like you guys arecool, you don't want anything
pretty, which is something I'venever felt before, you know.
And Eric's like hey, man, whatare you doing?
It's a Tuesday and I'm likejust chillin, like why do you

(42:00):
sleep?
Do you want to go out today?
And I was like I've never feltthat.
I was like, yeah, sure, we'llgo out.
And I chose to go to the cityand we went to the Shed Aquarium
.
She was fired and we weredriving around and my nurse
called off and I got so fuckingpissed and then I was like, dude

(42:21):
, look up Rage Room.
And he's like what's a RageRoom?
I was like, just look up RageRoom, I'm fucking pissed, what
do we cheer you to Max?

Speaker 2 (42:30):
You want this.
Oh shit, that's how you take ashot at Hennessy, Max.
That's how you take a shot atHennessy.
She was all the quiet.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
I remember you sent me pictures of that.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Yeah.
So we go to this Rage Room andI'm like, just break shit.
I'm like be my hands, just anarms, just break shit.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
He's like what's that's so funny?
Yeah, he's like releasingtension for you.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
The second time, me and Eric ringing it out.
He's like we're straight vibing.
I'm telling him to break shitfor me.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Breaking Hennessy.
He's taking a shot at Hennessy.
I'm shattering the Hennessybottle.
The nurse was so scared tobreak some glass.
I'm like, come on here, justthrow this bottle at the wall,
just throw it, just do it.
And she finally builds thecourage after me and Max
taunting her to do it right.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
She finally builds some courage.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
She takes the bottle, she throws it.
The bottle hits the brick wall,bounces right back to her,
literally right back to her, andshe's like I'm done, because I
don't want to hit Max, I'm done,I'm not doing this.
She fucking walks away.
That's so funny.

(43:51):
Try again, try again.
Aim for the corner.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
That's what I'm saying that was crazy.
So I have like before this,like at the VA, when I at the
VFW, when I was talking to EricI was like, hey, man, do you
want to work for me?
And then he was like what I waslike?

Speaker 2 (44:09):
you want to be my assistant?

Speaker 1 (44:11):
No, Do you want to be my assistant?
And I was like no.
And I was like, bro, I'mserious, I need an assistant.
You don't understand thesenurses, don't understand me
sometimes.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Bro, I'm a fetics, I'm good, I'll come here as your
friend, bro, but chill, thefuck out.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Finally, he saw what I was, he saw why I wanted to
Once.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
you're nine to five just feels different when you
have another opportunity behindyou.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
I hear him Every time Loretta would yell at me across
the station.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
I know what changed your mind Every single time I
was filling out paperwork anddealing with grown ass adults
acting like children.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Yeah, yeah.
So I'm like, fuck this dude,let's go to the Four Seasons.
Like, and he finally said, ok,I'll work for you part time,
let's see how it goes.
I mean, I'm like, let's go tothe Four Seasons.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Because I still don't believe you, max, something
ain't right.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, he's like there's something weird about
this kid.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Every single time you offer me a job, I see horns
coming out of your forehead.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Anyway, so we go to the Four Seasons.
We're fucking having a greattime.
His girlfriend's bitching athim and I'm loving it.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
You know what this motherfucker does, bro.
So keep, look, we're at theFour Seasons, we're at a
top-nosh hotel.
Bro.
Roddy Rich came with his squadin that hotel.
When we're sitting in the lobby, he walked the whole fucking
tour bus walks right past us.
Right, this is a celebritieshotel.
My book is like you want to eat?
Where do we eat?
That was outside.
It was like some nice assrestaurant by the fucking nice

(45:56):
ass hotel.
Right, he's like yeah, getwhatever you want.
Get this, get that, get this.
Yeah, oh, you want to getdessert?
Yeah, get that big ass cake,get that big ass $30 cake, yeah,
get it.
And then he looks at me and hegoes, you're buying the cake.
And I'm like damn, like shit, Iguess.
Like how do I look saying noRight to the hotel?

(46:17):
Yeah, man, for the Four Seasons.
I just got steak from thismotherfucker.
How much was the cake?
It was $30.
But the way you said it, Likedid I really.
Yeah, this is great.
You're buying the cake.
You wanted the cake.
I don't even eat sweets, bro.
If anybody knows me, I don'tfuck with sugar.

(46:37):
You're buying the cake.
Was it cake fire?
No, that's a me.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
That's still fun.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Look at the end of the day, it's still a fucking
deal.
Yeah, bro, you pay $30 in threeseasons.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Yeah, pay $30.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
It's a cake, oh it's a cake, anyway, so fast forward.
Eric is like introduced me toall these people.
He's like he's introduced me toall these lines.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
Yeah, man, he's increasing his quality of life.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Yeah, he is.
He's showing me people and Erictold me something.
He said I promise you I willnever bring anybody to your
house that's going to steal fromyou, because a lot of people
stole from me back then.
And to this day, and to thisday, no one has stolen.
For what?

(47:23):
For what I know, no one hasstole anything from me, which is
amazing.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Except your heart, yeah, my heart.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Yeah, nowadays there are these people who really
chill people and I'm sittingthere one day and I was like
y'all, you know what I wanted todo back then?
I wanted to do a podcast.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Nah, you're skipping steps, motherfucker.
You brought up the podcast thefirst day we met.
Oh yeah, and if you want to getgrim, you were extra sad, max,
and you were like dude, I justfeel like giving up.
And me and Silas were like whatthe fuck are you talking about?
And you're like I just can't doshit because I'm paralyzed and
I'm like, bro, you have a voice,you should do a podcast.

(48:08):
Me and Silas wanted to do apodcast, like you should do it,
and you're like I can't.
What'd you say?

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Because no one will be able to hear me.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
You said your friends tried and your voice was too
low and I was like fuck yourfriends.
You went to school for thisshit.
I know I could make you fucking.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Yeah, this is easy.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
So then we're like fuck it, let's start a podcast.
And we said we were coming upwith names.
Life to the Max came up.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
No, no, no, no.
Life to the Max was always inyour motherfucking head.
There was no debate.
You're like, yeah, life to theMax.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Life to the me, life to the me.
How did you come up with that?

Speaker 1 (49:03):
I don't know man, I just like I don't know.
I was like life to the Max.
It came off.
I think it's like the secondone, right?
Yeah, no like.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Did y'all want to hear me say those?

Speaker 3 (49:18):
We were looking at different.
That's the only thing.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
That's the first thing he said.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
There was no thought for us.
So that's just life to the Max.
Let's do a podcast.
Life to the Max.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Two years, two years beforethis, we are on a coffee table.
We are recording our firstepisode, split second.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
right Now we're here today right, we got cameras and
shit.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Cameras.
We got lights.
We got all these lights, cameraaction.
It's a fucking show.
Now.
It's not a fucking podcast,it's a show.
It's an experience.
I met so many great people andI was so grim in the beginning,
I was so upset and annoyed still, and Eric's bringing all these

(50:01):
people in and we've had freakingtumblers.
We've had people who've gottenshot.
We've had people whose wiveshave shot them.
We've had fucking them.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Max doesn't know this , but in the beginning I would
have to give those warningmessages before TV shows.
Whenever I'd bring someone tothis house, I would stop them on
the porch and be like hey.
On the porch, I would be like,hey, Tell them before they come
they've been able forward.
No, no, no, no, Once they gethere before.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
I left.
Welcome to the house.
By the way, he's paralyzed.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
By the way, he's an extremely disrespectful
motherfucker.
Oh wait, you might be offended.
Don't walk out.
Challenge this motherfucker,poke his brain.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Shout out to Laurel the comedian.
He said can I roast up?
Can I roast?

Speaker 3 (50:52):
up, did he roast him?
I heard he held his tongue alittle bit.
You got your feet, you couldtune into that episode.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
It's called Laurel the comedian.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
No, it was the title of the episode.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
It's called Laurel the comedian.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
That is called painting comedy.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Probably painting comedy, I don't fucking know
Featuring Laurel the comedian,so I was like I meet all these
people and they're treating melike a fucking human being, so
I'm starting to get used to it.
Now we're living life to themax, right, but now we're really
good.
Ok, we got your website, we gotyour clothes.
We got to get fucking in People, I got to sponsor people, and

(51:32):
Daniel and Elias shout out toDaniel Elias.
So they came into my lives too,because of Eric, because he saw
Daniel.
After how many years.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
It was a few years.
I did not see Daniel and I was.
I was on foot, walking and Isee Daniel's car outside a
laundry mat and I texted him mybro, you had a fucking laundry
mat and he walks out.
It's like what you doing here?
I'm like I'm just walking.
I forgot what I was doing.
I think my car was at the shopand and he's like I work right
here.

(52:05):
Come through and him and Eliaswere at the office and and I
need care of I was looking forcaregivers for Max, and I would
hit up everyone that, like,makes beads.
I would hit up artists, I wouldhit up anyone that could
silently Create while max issleeping and I would tell them
dude, I got a job that could payyou and you could just do what

(52:26):
you love to do.
You know, put the headphones on, make some fucking beats while
this motherfucker sleeps.
You know, I'm saying you canpay to do what you do, right.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Please click it.
I'm up for this.
I'm just this snare.
You hit a snare.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
You hit a snare.
Hard part is going on hey.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Hold on to my sample this.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Hey, wake up, you good, you good, yeah you good,
you good, he ain't deep sleep.
He's asleep.
Oh, everybody said no, Icouldn't find it.

(53:10):
Give it for max.
Everybody said no, bro I'm.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
I'm giving licks to people like bro, somebody told
me a you know just well, did youtell them that like they can
create, while that you told themthat whole that?

Speaker 2 (53:20):
was my, that was my, my pitch, that was my thing to
reel him in, that was my bait.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
I mean, it's like Like first thing I hear is like
he's paralyzed.
It's like sounds like a bigresponsibility, like what the
fuck?
Like what do I have to do?

Speaker 1 (53:31):
That kind of sounds, I fucking see, which is crazy,
because Daniel Elias came,because you got them to come to
my house.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
I got Daniel Elias started working Immediately when
I brought up the yeah, what Ido, you know, yeah, and he's
like what the fuck I want to doit.
I'm like you can't come through, fuck you can.
And then a loyal they've beenthe most loyal.
They had not flip flopped.
They've, ever since their first.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Yeah, man, shout out to Daniel Elias and like then,
like life to the max, like thegroup just started really
kidding, like, closer than I'm,like Meeting all these people I
mean actresses, me and fuckingcomedians, I mean fucking
singers, rappers, all this stuffthat just like, and like we're

(54:14):
hearing their stories and whatthey went through, and like they
see what I'm going through andwe came up with something called
the little things, and likethey're like damn yeah, like
it's crazy, I can't.
I think breathing is not aprivilege, I just think it's
there for me.
I can't believe bring you,think you're taking away from me
, you know, I mean.

(54:35):
And then like it kind of liketakes away, and they like really
think about what all a littlething is, that they can't, that
they don't.
It's not that they don'tappreciate, it is that they
forget about all right.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Yes, you don't think about breathing, yeah, things
like that.
But you see, you see what'slike.
You're going, someone like hewas going through, that they're
helping.
It's like, oh shit.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
So we started a coffee table and then I'm like a
let's, let's fucking Do likeyou know, like lights camera.
Actually let's do cameras.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
We're actually nervous.
Should we do cameras?

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Yeah, I was like you two stuff, man, you know, I mean
like should we do it?
I'm like fucking we'll do it,you know, and then I go into
septic shock, die like literallyI think I did.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
I just quit my job.
I'm like you can't die man.
No, no, I didn't.
I didn't.
This degree doesn't pay shit,Fuck God dude For the first time
, bro, I didn't finish God ofWar bro.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
We gotta come back.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
I'll be right there.
So like I'm like, so now I'mlike fucking dying in septic
shock rate and they, theyfigured out, they mean we could,
but I'd stay in the hospitalfor 15 days.
Yeah, you, you came to thehospital, yeah, and you know
what I'd show all those peoplethat I didn't even know, like

(56:11):
girls and guys, just like onsnapchat.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Oh yeah, because Eric was doing stories.
Yeah, Eric, just Just like.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
I just heard that you're in the house.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
So you're in the house.
Give me my prayers and I'll beright back.
Max.
Hey man, Wish you good luck.
I got some hoes ready for bothof us.
Boy, they trying to suck you upmy nigga, so you got to get the

(56:51):
fuck up out there.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
Max man, I just want to let you know to get better
bro.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
So we, uh, so I get out of that situation and it's
been good ever since.
I think we, just as we, it'sbeen a learning experience.
I feel that, eric, that we haveto do social media.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
You guys definitely butted heads.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Yeah, we have to do social media.
It's like holding an animal,yeah, I mean, and we're trying
to promote the podcast.
Business cards, we're doingT-shirts, you're doing a lot,
man, you're blogging.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
You guys are going on trips and blogging, yeah, like
trips.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
My first trip was with Eric out of this state it
was, I can't see.
Chief came as far, as far asgreat time, you know, and all my
friends came with, like Danielscame with, and we just like had
a good time, you know, and nowlike we, after two years, we

(57:47):
went from a coffee table to thislife, to the max.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
Heavy ass table.
Yeah, nice table.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Yeah, that's what it, and I would the same fucking
people I was with two years agoexcept I have all water with me
A person I sponsor because theskating is fucking out of this
world.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Pleased to be here.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
He's a real water fucking dope and I met him
through Daniel.
You know, it's like all theseconnections you meet all these
people and then life's a maximum.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Fucking tree bro.
The podcast is like we get thisguest and this guest and this
guest and this guest and thisguest and this guest knows this
guest and this guest and thisguest and this guest and this
guest and this guest, and then anew guest and new branch and
fucking it's like.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
It's like something you don't believe that's going
to happen, but it happens.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
We know what you know obviously makes about what you
can prove.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
You know I mean, and I'm paralyzed for a neck down,
breathe through machine, butthat doesn't stop me from
falling my dreams to do what Ilove to do.
I don't got an excuse to,neither should you.
That's why the light just wentout, because you know what.
It's time to get off this.
But yeah, I love doing apodcast.
I love meeting the people youknow, mostly rappers.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
I love most of the black guys.
Those are pretty cool guys.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
I love meeting people and I love seeing the podcast
girl.
Like we like tick tock.
We did a tick tock, like youknow, it's so funny.
Paralyzed jokes I like some ofthem blew up and got to like,
and then we got Ross to comeover, a guy who was like super

(59:32):
cool, but we only knew becauseJoyder Lucas made a song about
him.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
No, no, no, no.
I remember watching hisinterview from the barracks, and
then Joyder Lucas made a songabout him.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
What's his full name?

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Ross Kepkekew.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
And I remember his shit from high school and like I
don't watch interviews a lot,but like his interview just
stuck with me, I was alwaysshowing people this interview.
Like you got to watch this shitand then you got to watch his
music video and I showed Max andhe's like I'm gonna hit him up.
I'm like, yeah, hit him up.
It's my fucking response.
Yeah, hell, yeah, I'll drivefrom Michigan all the way up
there to record you guys Fuck.

(01:00:09):
Yeah, I'm like wow bro.
Eight years ago I was watchingyour interview and now you're at
the table.
Dad, like dad, look at this guy, you know, and now he's sitting
with us and he's coming back intwo days.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Yeah, Sean Ross Kepkew, this could be great.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Yeah, he's four he's at my house Hospital here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Not paralyzed, you know, yeah, but shout out to
like the people who do that, who, like you, wouldn't believe
that have crazy stories, youknow you wouldn't believe it.
Shout out to them, like forthem, helping other people.
This podcast is therapy.
That's what I think of it.
I think of it as therapy, youknow, and sometimes just a fun

(01:00:53):
time enjoying drinking beer withfriends, smoking, having a good
time, and I'm like super happywith the way it went.
I want everybody to know, ifyou listen to the first 10
minutes of split second episodeone, it will not be the person
that you're hearing right now.
It won't.
I've changed, you know.

(01:01:16):
That's because of Eric.
You've evolved.
It's because of Eric.
I'm still a piece of shit.
Is it because of me?

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
It's because of me.
I just made like this podcast,almost like a mirror, where you
could see yourself, you couldhear yourself, you could rewind
and watch, you could be like wow, I'm cringing a little bit, and
then you make adjustments everyepisode.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Yeah, I mean, it's a beautiful thing and I love when
people like share their story,even though they don't want to
sometimes, but they share it tohelp people, to help themselves,
and after that they're likescared to get well before
they're scared to get on thepodcast.
After the like, they feelvigorated, they're like yes,

(01:02:00):
this is amazing, you know, likethis was a great time.
I actually really enjoyed this.
Yeah, and that's what life toMax is, and we're working, we're
going to keep going.
This is just two years in.
Maybe it's just two years inthere.
It takes a while, but we gotthe.
We got everything possible tomake this podcast extremely

(01:02:21):
successful, which it will be,hopefully, in four years or two
years or one year or one month,I'll be standing up and not
sitting in a chair.
That's how it's got to be.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
It's how your mindset has to be If you haven't done
so for two mental sprints, justlike I sprinted to the military.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
I just got to do mental sprints with my head, you
know, and just keep going andlive life to Max.
That's what life to Max isabout, and I'm with the same
people, plus one same peoplethat I was at the table with
this coffee table, that was atthe table with it to do this, to

(01:03:06):
start the podcast.
So, yeah, that that is my storyso far, so far.
Alright, everyone, this has beenlife to Max.
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(01:03:28):
We love to hear your comments.
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I love to hear if someone gotoffended by me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
I love to see when people talk shit about Max.
So go ahead and roast his ass.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Yeah just do it.
But yeah, it's been life to Max, just life to Max podcast on
all platforms and we're out.