LifeGLOSS: Gratitude, Beauty's Secret Ingredient

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Hillary Clark-Mina (00:00):
Happy New Year.
Welcome back.

Susan (00:03):
Happy New Year, Life Gloss Podcast and Hillary.
It's a new year.

my goodness.
Guys, this feels like Januarythat has been.
a year long.
And you know, as Audrey Hepburnsays, happy girls are the
prettiest girls.
And science proves thatgratitude makes people
beautiful.
So Let's be beautiful and let'sbe grateful.
And let's talk about gratitudethis episode.

Susan (00:31):
I think that is so apropos, especially with
everything that you've just beenthrough, and so many people have
been through in Los Angeles withthese horrific fires we are
having freezing cold, terribleweather on the East coast.
You have absolutely beyonddevastating weather on the West

(00:53):
coast.
And I know our friends in theMidwest are getting hit with all
types of crazy storms, even aswe're recording today.
So I agree with you.
I think it's a perfect way tokind of start out 2025.
With some gratitude.
Gratitude in beauty, gratitudefor even being here, gratitude
for what we have.

(01:14):
Um, I am definitely feeling likethis is the longest month in
history.
Let's just pretend that we'realready in February and let's
just have some fun with beautyand have some fun with makeup
today.
And I agree with you, Hill,talking about what we're
grateful for is one of the bestways to overcome difficult times

(01:35):
or tough change and newbeginnings that are just
beginnings that really we don'twant, right?

Absolutely.
And, you know, I, as I sit hereand have a little bit of
survivor's guilt, because thereare so many people in pockets
around me that don't have homes.
And while we had to evacuatemore than once.
are, we're so very, verygrateful to be able to be in our
homes, to be able to be with somany of our friends and family

(02:05):
that even if they lost theirhomes, they still have their
lives.
So it's definitely been aninteresting time of reflection.
It's interesting when you have,you know, moments.
To grab what is meaningful toyou to leave.
In our case, we had a little bitmore time.
So there was a big time ofreflection.
I had a whole day before reallyrealizing, okay, I need to

(02:28):
evacuate because we were betweenthe two big fires and it wasn't
until the sunset fire hit forthe Hollywood Hills that We had
to go.
So it was a really interesting,um, time of reflection and it
ironically backed up to when Iwas just starting to think about
how to pack skincare and makeupfor a training and education
trip that I'm taking to Europe.

Susan (02:47):
I mean, how do you,

What do you grab and what do

Susan (02:50):
yeah,

beauty?
It's like prescriptions,passport

Susan (02:54):
right.
I mean,

there.

Susan (02:56):
Do you even like, I mean, it's so hard for me to get my
head around this, you know, andwe want to be so sensitive to
our listeners who have gonethrough tragedy in this past
month or who are going throughit, right?
Like, I mean, this is the thingthat I hate about the news.
It's like, that's all we heardabout on the East coast where
these, you know, with the firesand this whole tragedy.

(03:17):
And of course I'm texting youevery five seconds, you know,
are you okay?
Get out of your house.
Oh my God.
You know, now it's like.
Oh, we've moved on.
We're on to something else.
Now.
Everyone's arguing aboutpolitics now.
So it's like, Oh my gosh, youknow, I think we need to slow
down.
We need to take a breath.
We need to take a beat andrealize there's people out there

(03:38):
right now with legitimately Theclothing on their back and our
hearts do go out to everyone.
So let's just put that right outthere

Yeah, today, after we wrap here, I'm
going and taking a whole bag.
I went through my beauty closetand I have several bags of
skincare, color brushes,

Susan (03:57):
yes

and everything that I have a
duplicate in, or that I knowsomeone well enough.
I've used it once.
Here you go.

Susan (04:04):
Yes

to take things to like my friend's mom
and several other people that.
They don't have deodorant.
They didn't have toothbrushes.

Susan (04:13):
Right.

anything.

Susan (04:15):
And, you know, and some of it is to how that we decided
to, you know, for those of youthat have been keeping up with
us now for a while, we did go onpause for a few weeks here and a
lot of that was the holidays.
And we wanted to obviously takea break, take a breather,
celebrate the holidays, but wealso wanted to really be mindful

(04:37):
of the holidays.
All the tragedy and everythingthat's been going on, um, and
especially because they, youknow, affected us personally
with so many friends that weknow people that have lost
things and people that have losthomes, people that have, been
through a lot, like more thananyone should be going through.
So we wanted to be mindful ofthat and not come on and be

(04:58):
talking about lip gloss during ahorrific time.
But to your point, I was sittinghere and thinking, you know, in
the safety of my East coastworld, um, that, you know, what
do you grab?
Like, how, how do you even likebegin to think about beauty?
Do you even, I mean, not evenbeauty.

(05:19):
I mean, you're thinking aboutyour life.
You're thinking about your pets,your loved ones, your important
papers and documents.
But to your point, you know, howdo you even know what to grab?
How do you even know like whatto do?
Right.

having been through several different events
like this from earthquakes, youknow, 1989 earthquake, I was in
Santa Cruz.
So from being throughearthquakes to now fires.
I was, you know, standing infront of the Soho Grand on 9 11.
There's not a lot you can dothere, but keep moving.
I feel like one of the bestthings I can do is tell people,

(05:55):
do everything in advance.
It's you know, you can't everplan really well for anything
you're nothing's ever going togo according to plan.
But having a game plan.
gets you those many steps aheadand can get you out of the
panic.
So packing for an earthquake,maybe that's different than a
fire or a place where you haveboth.
The main thing I can do isrecommend that people have two

(06:18):
copies of your passports, anyimportant documents,

Susan (06:22):
Yeah,

like that, have two copies of

Susan (06:24):
right.

have them digitally,

Susan (06:26):
Yeah,

seal them in bags, put them in little
pouches and bags with glasses,prescriptions.

Susan (06:33):
right.
Right,

little things in there.
I always make sure my cars arealways full of gas.

Susan (06:55):
or fully charged, you know,

everything you have phone chargers in
there, you want to batteries inthere, you want to have
flashlights in there.
If anybody wants, I'm going todo a full little prep, if you
will, little tiny emergency

Susan (07:09):
a great idea.
Yeah.

to have some cash.
It's

Susan (07:12):
Yeah.

things in there.
So, uh, as far as beauty, it'simportant to have those things
too, just because it helps togive you a sense of feeling a
little bit normal, even in acrisis.
And I found that I was takingthings that I.
surprised me.
One of them was a new brand andhere's something that's great to
know.
You need very little, very fewproducts.

(07:35):
Things can double as everything.
So like, if you have an oil thatyou love your favorite oil, that
can be your cleanser.
That can be your moisturizer.

Susan (07:43):
Right.

That's it.

Susan (07:45):
body, like, yeah.
It's, yeah.

You just need one major utilitarian item.
For me, it was reallyinteresting.
I don't think we've ever talkedabout this brand before.
I just discovered this brand,it's called In Your Face Cream.
The woman that makes this, comesfrom a Sicilian family and she
treats.
Creating her products like youwould think of the grandma

(08:08):
cooking her sauce with all ofour homemade ingredients.
She actually infuses a lot ofthe ingredients in olive oils
for over 30 days.
But not

Susan (08:17):
Yeah.

this like

Susan (08:18):
Yeah.
Yeah.

heavy, and heavy glass is not ideal to take
with you,

Susan (08:34):
Yeah.

I just took my Beauty HAC roller because it
soothes my soul, but I took thisand I knew this would last me
forever.
I was using it to take offsunscreen to take off makeup and
it moisturized all in one.
So I could have gotten away withjust one thing.
And you

Susan (08:50):
Yeah.

put them just in little, you know, you
can get like those little travelpalettes and you can just put
little drops of different stuffin there and slide it in.

Susan (08:59):
Wow.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, it's so much tothink about, you know, and we,
and, you know, we don't want todwell on all the negativity.
We want to start this year outin a positive way, even though,
you know, I wore this because,you know, I'm feeling very jet
lagged, quite frankly.
Very over 2025.

(09:19):
We've only just begun.
Um, but, um, I do think that,um, having you do a follow up
video and talking about how youpack and an emergency and some
of the things that you need tokind of feel normal, because I
think you bring up a greatpoint, Hill, you know, when we
go through crisis and we gothrough things that are really
difficult, those little tinythings of feeling dignified, of

(09:42):
feeling A normalcy, having atoothbrush, having clean
underwear, having a moisturizer,having, you know, I don't know,
a lip balm, like something thatjust makes you feel safe and
makes you feel normal as trivialas it may seem.
I think there's a dignity tothat.
And I think that there's, uh,um, a security when you look

(10:02):
good, you feel good, you know,it all kind of goes hand in
hand,

And dignity is a word I've been hearing a
lot lately.
Like Bethany Frankel has beentalking about it a lot.
She's been doing prettyincredible things for Los
Angeles through

Susan (10:15):
yeah,

be

Susan (10:16):
hats off to her.
Yeah.
Hats off.
Yes.
Yes.

dignity is a big part of it.
And especially when people arefaced with having lost
everything, it, it can be ashell shock.
So if you can, you know, Ialways recommend if you have a
car, have a little backpack inyour car, With water,
flashlight, socks,

Susan (10:37):
I do.

glasses.

Susan (10:39):
the East Coast.
Yeah.

all of those kinds of

Susan (10:42):
Yep.

You don't want to keep any sensitive
paperwork in your car oranything like that, but I do, I
have three little go

Susan (10:49):
It's gonna go back.
Survival bags.

the house and having, you know, I was so
fortunate.
I had a place to go, mind you, Igot in the car and I'm on the
top of the hill.
There was a fire on the freewaythat direction.
There was a fire on the freewaythat direction.
There'd just been a fire goingsouth.
I was like, which, how do I getout of here

Susan (11:07):
Right.

into a blaze?

Susan (11:09):
Yeah.

I was able to weave my way south.
The

Susan (11:12):
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What?
What do you mean?
Sure.
Yep.
Yep.

pictures, mementos, things like that.
Those things I've digitized ifwe lose our home and knowing the
insurance situation inCalifornia, knowing everything
else, I have to take things thatI can sell.
So I was taking tie stuff andjewelry and, you know, things
that I could actually, you know,make a buck on if we were in a

(11:55):
situation where we needed to dothat right away.
So everybody's strategy is goingto be a little bit different for
some people.
It's baby pictures and photoalbums, and they don't care
about those other things.
You know, my husband's amusician.
So I had to say to him, you getfour guitars.
That's all I can get.
And he was like, or

Susan (12:12):
Yeah.
But you know, it's moments,

but you know,

Susan (12:15):
it's moments like that, that I think really put
everything into perspective andmake us grateful for what we do
have, you know, and to yourpoint, what we can actually do
without, you know, it's amazingwhat we can do without, you
know, I mean,

Well,

Susan (12:34):
we have so much stuff,

in this,

Susan (12:36):
right.
You know,

in this silly jacket right now because
I've gone through all of myclosets and I've pulled
everything.
Of course I've gone through anddonated.
There were things in my closetthat I had a little bit of a
sentimental attachment to, butthat sentimental attachment
meant zero when it came tosomebody needing something.

Susan (12:56):
that's right.

I've just gone through, if I don't wear it
all the time and if I don't needit, great things like this that
I look in my and I'm like, youknow, this was given to me.
Yes.
It's a Versace couture from thenineties.
Well, I bet I can sell it andgive the funds to somebody that
Can you use it in a proper way?
And I'm doing that through

Susan (13:18):
Right, right, right.

you can see things behind me.
I'm photographing and gettingall kinds of things ready to go.
And it feels really good to be

Susan (13:29):
Yeah, I've heard this.

through.
We

Susan (13:32):
Yeah.

that much.

Susan (13:33):
Yeah, I've heard this from other friends, um, that I
have out there, you know, in L.
A.
saying that they use this as atime of Obviously positive
reflection and a time toreassess right a time to go
through what you have, what youcan do without what you can
donate what you can give andkind of the meaning behind

(13:57):
things and possessions and.
You know, we love our luxury.
We love our fun stuff.
We love our beauty.
We, you know, we like things welike sparkly, shiny things, but
when you really put it all intoperspective, it means absolutely
nothing.
And I think it is a, you know,it is a time of reflection.

(14:18):
It's a time to remind everybodyto be kind, to take care of each
other, take care of yourself,all those little basic lessons,
you know, that are so importantto remember.

And we've come so far away from that.
Like we're constantly bombardedwith Instagram Snapchat and all
of these different things.
We're constantly bombarded withwhat you need now and what you
have to have.
And your image has become your.
status symbol.
And it's like, I feel like we'vebecome such a, self possessed

(14:52):
and self obsessed, societyalmost to the point of where
it's like we idolize our ownimage and we're idolizing our
own profiles.
And like we have these followersand all of this stuff.
And I'm like, you know, whensomething like this happens, and
especially in our neighborhood,because we had a lot of concerns
with looting, with morearsonists coming in and starting

(15:14):
fires, we've

Susan (15:15):
You have a question?
My.

in the neighborhood.
So we've become very close withsome of our neighbors, which is
not something

Susan (15:22):
Wait.

happens in Los Angeles.
And the human connection hasreally been A jarring and very
pleasantly jarring way to snapme out of much as I've always
tried to stay away from that,um, social media presence, which
I have to have because of mybusinesses.

Susan (15:43):
Sure.

it in a very clear pinpoint and really
has shown a light on the factthat we're so self involved
Going on around us that is more

Susan (15:56):
Yeah, we really are.
And you know, it's funny.
Um, so my dad's 92nd birthday istomorrow.
So happy birthday, Joe.
Um,

Joe.

Susan (16:04):
and he, yep.
And he, you know, I bring him upbecause he, he was someone who
was raised in a very tightcommunity, um, in Boston and.
He often talks about that, youknow, that everybody knew each
other.
Everybody knew their neighbors.
Everybody, you know, belonged tothe same program.

(16:27):
Like, everybody was on the samepage.
Like, they knew every, sometimestoo much, but.
You know, he talked often abouthis neighborhood in that
community and where everyonehelped each other and made sure
everybody was okay.
And it's interesting becausehe's often said to me, you know,
we've moved so much and I'velived in so many cities and I

(16:48):
look at it as something veryfortunate, but he's often said
to me over the years, you know,He's like, I think it's great.
And I think it's fun.
But he said, you know, how doyou develop that safety and that
community, that communityspirit, that neighborhood.
And we often talk about that.
And I think there's pros to it.

(17:08):
There's cons to it.
But during tragedy and duringtimes like this.
You do start to realize, wow, itis important to know who, at
least my next door neighbor is.

Yes.
Finding the silver lining inanything in the moment can seem
trite, but.
Long term and even short term,it really is the balm that helps
to keep people together.
And, you know, especially inCalifornia, we are, we have and
dramatically different views on,you know, politics, religion,

(17:41):
the way we live our lives, thethings that we do.
we really all have come togetheras human beings that want what's
best for each other.
I mean, we've had to go onpatrols watching for

Susan (17:54):
Yeah.

scooters with blow torches.
It's

Susan (17:55):
Yeah.

So

Susan (17:57):
Yeah,

The fact that there's the humanity and
being kind and generous witheach other and patient with each
other is so important.
And sometimes being patient is,we all know it's really hard.
Yeah.

Susan (18:12):
media, I think, you know, we've talked about this on and
off for such a long time, butthe positives of it, being able
to reach people quickly, beingable to find people that are
lost, being able to put togethersomething really quickly, that's
the positive side.
The negative side is it's madeus very isolated in a lot of
ways, even though we have thisgreat reach.
It's made us so isolated and soself centered and, uh, yeah,

(18:39):
it's, it's a lot.
It's a lot.
So.

So I'd love to hear from some of our,

Susan (18:44):
Yeah.

our audience and I must say, um, the
audience here and the audiencethat I have for my vintage
beauty on Tiktok, I was.
Overwhelmed with the love andhow many perfect strangers.
I mean, they're not totalstrangers because I know them,

Susan (19:03):
Right.

through these platforms.
And I know you guys throughthese platforms, but how many of
you reached out to me and justchecked on me or said, Hey,
thinking of you, Hey, prayingfor you.
My whole family's thinking ofyou.
My mom and dad were praying foryour home.
We're hoping that you'reprotected.
And that means.
So very, very much.
So there's there is thatpositivity.

(19:24):
And, you know, I noticed thesame thing during the
earthquakes is particularlyduring 9 11.
I was, you know, strandedbecause I couldn't

Susan (19:31):
Right.
Right.

I also felt like I didn't belong because it
wasn't my city.
So I was like, do I have anyright to be traumatized by the
fact that I literally justwatched buildings come down in
front of me and watched peoplejump from buildings, but they
weren't my people and this isn'tmy city.

Susan (19:54):
Right.
Right.
Sure.
Yeah.
For sure.
Right.

other, you know, walking the streets, you'd
hold people's kids, you know,hand people your purse, your
phone, whatever, just, you know,when nobody came together as
strongly as I saw New York cometogether during that time.
And a lot of it is because NewYorkers live in the street,
know, everyone's out there andwe're so close together.

Susan (20:18):
Right, right.
Well, I'm praying and hopingthat the rest of 2025 will be a
little less eventful, will be alittle more positive, a little
calmer, maybe give us a chanceto all catch our breath and
realize that we're all in thistogether.

(20:38):
So.

are, we are, yeah, that's one of the.
impetuses and really talkingabout what, what we're grateful
for.
And I found that I've been doingmore, um, with more regularity
than I used to.
And we hear all of these thingsabout these gratitude journals
and saying what you're gratefulfor.
And it always sounds so woohoo.

(21:00):
you know, but I've been sittingup and before I start my day,
just listing just in my head,even like three things.
three things that I'm supergrateful for.
And at the moment it's somethingas simple as, you know, sheets,
house,

Susan (21:18):
Susan, Susan?
Is it supposed to be three?
Susan, Susan, Susan?
There's three things that justcome to mind?
Yeah.
The littlest?
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.

hear little things creeping around us.
And you know, I just, you know,some people meditate, some
people pray, whatever it meansfor you.
But for me, I'm just, you know,Thank God for, you know, all
these little things, because thelittle things are the biggest
things, and it's so easy to takethings for granted.
So, it's great.
And as I get ready to travel,I'm going and teaching some

(21:54):
classes abroad.
I think it's also reallyinteresting that I'm going to be
in places that have had someinstability lately.
You know, I'm going to bothAmsterdam and Lithuania.
So I'm flying right over Poland.
So it's been, it's been spicy tosay the least over

Susan (22:13):
yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

a few weeks ago.
So stay tuned.
I'll be bringing back lots ofinfo.
You know, I'll be scouring andkeeping an eye out for us for
things too.

Susan (22:42):
Oh, good.
Well, as we transition to thingsthat we are grateful for, and I
think we've, you know, reallytalked a lot about, um, what's
been going on and now takingsome positivity spin here.
I did pick up a couple of newitems for our listeners who are

(23:03):
always interested in what's newand what's exciting.
So not to trivialize everything,it's always a tough segue to go
from

yeah, I was gonna say it's a tough segue.

Susan (23:11):
From something very serious and, and, and very
heartfelt to something astrivial as beauty, but that's
why you're listening to us,right?
That's why you're here forLifeGloss.
It's life and it's gloss, right?
It's sometimes

how did we both end up wearing fuchsia
lipstick, which

Susan (23:29):
So,

wear on

Susan (23:31):
so when we were

people, by the way.

Susan (23:33):
It's never played with us.

twinsie

Susan (23:36):
No, but if you look, if you look back through our
podcast, you know, over the pastyear and change, you'll see
oftentimes we'll have a similarlip color or we will have a
similar color shirt.
And this is the God's honesttruth.
Look, I'm putting up both hands.
We never talk ahead of timeabout, Oh, we should wear this

(23:59):
or we should do this.
Or we, you know, we're not that.

No.

Susan (24:03):
don't have our shit together that good.
Okay.
So it's hysterical that somehowwe have become one brain in this
and we automatically.
We'll put our cameras on andjust start cracking up because
not always, but nine times outof 10,

Oh, nine.

Susan (24:23):
we have the same color lip or the same kind of makeup
vibe and the same color shirt.

And this was

Susan (24:32):
it's become a joke.

Because,

Susan (24:34):
This is so random.
So I'll touch upon this and tellyou why.

one do you have on?

Susan (24:40):
So I Normally never wear shades like this.
You'll never see me in what Icall a cocoa pink and if you
know, you know, so cocoa pinkwas one of the hottest shades of
the 80s and 90s at chanel and Itwas such an iconic shade.
It was this fluorescent hotpink.
Well, I did my best to try toreplicate that over the years

(25:02):
because it's long discontinuedand I found it in YSL number 19.
Now, I don't know if they stillmake this one or not anymore.
I feel like they do, but it isthe perfect blue hot fuchsia.
80s pink that I usually onlybreak out if I have a faux tan

(25:25):
because I don't tan naturallyanymore, but a faux tan or
bronzer or whatever.
And I'll wear this on vacationand it's called my happy color
because you know me, I prettymuch always wear nudes.
If I want to be sultry and sexyand dramatic once a year, I'll
toss on a red.
But I pretty much stick to anude lip.
It's kind of my thing.
Well, I said today when we weredoing this podcast, as I was

(25:49):
getting dressed, I said, youknow what?
The weather's been terriblehere.
I'm so sick of hibernatingbecause I've been in
hibernation.
I'm going to be honest.
It's freezing.
It's yucky.
I hate January.
Based on everything we justtalked about and I'm just a
little maxed out and overwhelmedwith a whole bunch of stuff.
So I said, you know what?

(26:09):
I'm going to put on somethingthat's just going to make me
happy because this is the colorI wear on vacation.
So I put my vacation lip onbecause I thought, you know
what?
I just need to feel happy today.
And sure enough, I turn on mycamera and there you are staring
back at me like a mirror.
In the same lip.

(26:30):
So if any of you need to behappy or you're like, you know
what, I just want to wearsomething that I never ever
would reach for in a millionfricking years.
Go get yourself a hot pinklipstick and toss it off.
This is what

a six, I had a 6:00 AM Um, phone call, a
zoom call, a 6:00 AM Zoom callwith

Susan (26:53):
I'm sorry.
Yeah.

and I rolled out of bed and threw on a
jacket and threw on this lip, noskincare, no mascara, no
nothing.

Susan (27:05):
Yeah, that's me.
Nothing.
We got nothing.

And it does.
So you're lucky Suze, becauseyou can wear the really blue,
like that ultra violet,

Susan (27:17):
Yeah, I love

base

Susan (27:19):
lips.
Yeah, I do.

the Chanel one, the Coco.
Yes.
And NARS also has the mostmagnificent fuchsia for me, for
whatever reason, I can't do thatundertone.
It makes my skin look weird.
makes me look really cheap.
Like for some people it lookslike rich bitch, Coco, you know,

(27:43):
Palm Beach, you know, whatever.
For

Susan (27:47):
beach lip.

Yeah, but for me, it ends up looking like
Florida trashy, not Floridaclassy.

Susan (27:54):
You mean the wrong

little

Susan (27:55):
side?
The wrong side of Florida?

of the ultraviolet, it makes my teeth
look yellow, which my teeth arenot yellow.
And, you know, it's just, it's afunny thing with the purples on
me.
So I usually can't do a pinkbecause it's not quite right.
then the one and only one thatI've ever found, believe it or
not, is this young blood one andit's called bombshell

Susan (28:18):
Yeah.
Ooh, it's pretty on you.

enough that it gives you that

Susan (28:22):
Yeah, it's got a little bit of a

pink.

Susan (28:24):
plummy base to it almost.
And maybe that's why you're notfeeling as like eighties

as high

Susan (28:31):
video vixen.
Yeah.

It

Susan (28:34):
Yeah.
Mm-hmm

have that ultraviolet light reflection,
which for whatever reason on mejust.

Susan (28:42):
Yeah.

Doesn't work.
So isn't that a funny thing?
But for you, it looks expensiveand beautiful.

Susan (28:49):
Well, it is expensive, but you know, meaning I, you
know, YSL does.
A really, really, really goodlipstick and they do a really
good hot pink and they do areally good red and you know,
those French colors, right?
Those

They're reds.

Susan (29:07):
Cuisine type lips.

lip.

Susan (29:11):
Yeah.

a YSL lip.
Their

Susan (29:13):
So,

are great for me too, but also sometimes
they can go a little purple, alittle too purple.

Susan (29:17):
yeah.
So while we're talking about ourhappy lips and trying to pretend
it's not January, Um, I alsodecided, you know what, what the
hell, I'll get a new piece ofmakeup for spring and bring it
on here, pop on and play aroundwith it.
So, you know, I went to ourfriends at, you know, the double
C's and they are now doing thesemondo quads as I'm

(29:42):
affectionately calling them.
So they did one over the holidayseason that had a purple and
kind of a silvery white and anorange and very much an 80s kind
of pop thing and I just wasn'tfeeling it for whatever reason.
Um, because, you know, I reallydon't wear eyeshadow often and
it wasn't something I evenwanted for my kit because I

(30:02):
thought No one's going to berequesting this from me.
So the type of people I do makeup, no one's going to request
this.
So I thought, you know, maybethey'll do another one.
So they did.
So this is the springcollection, even though we're in
like, you know, 20 degreeweather here.
This is a spring collection andthese are neat because they are,
first of all, we love the hugesize, right?

I was just going to

Susan (30:23):
But it's.

the size,

Susan (30:24):
It's massive.

pool

Susan (30:25):
Look at my hand.
Like, look at this is likeobjects will appear larger.
Yeah, this does larger myfriend.
Um, so it's eyeshadow, it'sblush, it's highlight.
You can use them individually orswirl.
So I don't have anything onexcept my lip.
And, um, I may have put a littleconcealer underneath my eyes

(30:48):
just to not scare anybody.
So as we're talking, I love themirror too, cause the mirror's
huge.

Did they magnify it?
Because, you know, sometimesChanel gets fancy and they
magnify their

Susan (31:00):
It's not magnified, but I'll be honest with you.
It's such a good mirror that Ican actually see myself in it
without having to wear myglasses.
So I don't know if it has aslight magnification, mag, oh my
god, magnification to it.
I don't think it does.
Um, but I can actually See init.

(31:22):
So as we're talking aboutgratitude and things we're
grateful for, I brought mybrushes down and I thought I
would just play around a littlebit and put some moments.
Yeah.

you something.

Susan (31:33):
Show me something.

have a surprise for you too.

Susan (31:36):
You do.

Mm-hmm

Susan (31:38):
Okay.
What

You can see I'm putting my,

Susan (31:42):
do you want first?
A little highlight.
I'm going to use this.

Let's start.
Start with a highlight.

Susan (31:47):
I'm going to use this highlight color and see what
happens.
And I'll just put a little uphere.
Um,

Yeah.
For someone

Susan (31:57):
just, you

for a new moisturizer, this one is
delicious.
If you're feeling like you're inthe dregs of winter, your skin

Susan (32:06):
know,

super dry.

Susan (32:07):
I was going to ask you that and I don't know how
everybody feels, but as many ofyou know, I did my advent
calendar and thank you for allyour comments.
Um, I did do the Liberty adventcalendar and found some new
things and some things I've beenusing, but in there was my, um,
Augustinus Botter moisturizer,which I love.
So I've been using that, but isthere anyone else out there or

(32:31):
even you Hill?
You know, I feel like thesebirthdays keep coming.
I have another one in a coupleof months coming, and I don't
know if it's the winter, my age,I don't know what's happening,
but I'm really feeling like eventhe extra rich cream.
Is not enough and I'm using ahyaluronic acid and the cream

(32:54):
and I'm still feeling like myskin is a size too small.
So is anybody out there usinganything that they're loving
that they're just like, Oh, I'mso hydrated that I should get
that.

the answer for me.
And I think, you know, a lot ofit too, is because, I mean, I
was at the point of where I wasusing like Egyptian magic,
straight

Susan (33:15):
Yeah.

everything

Susan (33:17):
I did the other day.
I needed like oil.
Crisco.

feel that this has, you, this feels like
it's alive to me.
It feels like it has nature andscience.
We're not being paid to promotethis at all.
Really surprised that I keepreaching for it.
I got it.
I received it.
I was like, you know, whatever.
And then I felt it and Ithought, wow, this is something

(33:42):
special.
And you can see, I mean, thisthing is supposed to last you
three or four months.

Susan (33:48):
Yeah.

almost halfway through it because I've
been using it.
You know, I used it for a coupleof weeks while we were and out
of being evacuated as myeverything.
And it's beautiful.
And I've noticed that my skinstays hydrated because I'm just
getting really parched.

Susan (34:04):
I am so dry.
Like I am like a bone, like adog with a bone.

owe you a lip liner, so I'll make

Susan (34:12):
yeah.

a little sample of this and I'll send you
a little sample.

Susan (34:15):
Oh, would you?
Oh, thank you.
Oh.
And I also sent a care package,a care package to you.
So you should be getting that.
Of everything that was in my,um, advent calendar.
Um, that I won't use cause youknow, you love those ouds and we
know so they're coming your way,my friend.

(34:39):
Oh, wow.
What is that?
Wait a minute.
I know that.

this is the Lisa

Susan (34:46):
That's,

Yes.

Susan (34:49):
a minute.

So this is her new refillable lipstick.
She set out to create becauseyou know, vintage lipsticks used
to be refillable.

Susan (35:00):
Yeah.

and spent a ton of time, a ton of R and D, a
lot of investment in capital, alot of investment in brain.
she created these reallybeautiful refillable, completely
100 percent aluminum.

Susan (35:18):
So beautiful.

So of course, I got Audrey because as
we all

Susan (35:24):
Oh,

she has Audrey Hepburn's original lip
color and has kept it a secretas far as exactly which color it
is.
she has, um, she made it golightly in another version, but
now this is the Audrey.
So I thought I'd try it on foryou.

Susan (35:41):
oh, let me see.
Oh wait, I gotta put my glasseson.

Okay.

Susan (35:48):
Oh, that's so pretty.
That's so sixties.

Uh huh.

Susan (35:52):
That's so sixties.

this really unique formula.
So it goes on, I'm going to showyou on the cheek, it goes on a
little sheer.
It almost floats.
It reminds me of Violette'sBisou Balm.
It

Susan (36:05):
Oh, right.
Those are beautiful.

layer it to get as much color as you want.
And it's right in between like acoral and a pink.

Susan (36:16):
Oh yeah.
I was gonna say it's a realsixties shade.
It's beautiful.

It's

Susan (36:22):
say late fifties, early sixties, if I was doing any
history type makeup, that's like1958.
1959 lip

yes, and I'm going to have to get another
one for my kit because this is a

Susan (36:36):
you saw in that.
Yeah.

on anyone and this is definitely a color
if

Susan (36:40):
That is so pretty.

in the doldrums of um, the winter and
they're not quite ready to gofor the fuchsia lip that we came
on with,

Susan (36:49):
Yeah,

Lisa's uh, Audrey because it is absolutely
incredible and I highlyrecommend lip, cheek, cheek.
You're done.

Susan (37:00):
I love it.

makeup if you don't want to wear it.
Um, but I've been doing thislittle combo for quite some
time.
This actually arrived themorning or the afternoon before
we were evacuated that evening.

Susan (37:14):
Oh Oh

two things in my beauty kit

Susan (37:18):
Wow, that's adorable.
I love that.

hack roller, but

Susan (37:22):
Yeah, okay

it So, thank you, Lisa.
I love it and it did cheer me upwas you know running around in
the same and it was

Susan (37:34):
Okay, so I did my eyes.
What do we think?
Super soft and pretty.
And I used these, these shades,just dancing them around.
This one I used on the lid, alittle bit in the crease, and
then a highlight.
Uh, I put a little bit of thisdeeper one underneath, put a
little bit of mascara on top,and then look at this pretty

(37:58):
highlight.
This is the lightest shade thatI did.
Now, I'm going to take my bigdog brush, And I'm going to
brush the whole thing.

Ooh, I love this

Susan (38:09):
Look at me, such a genius.
And now I'm going to put it onmy cheek.

I love it.

Susan (38:21):
Can you see that?
Can you see that?

It's, uh, it's ethereal

Susan (38:26):
Oh

glittery, but it's just pretty,

Susan (38:30):
can I tell you?
And now I'm putting it up here.
This is so me.
It's almost like a bronzy blush,but with a real glow.
There's no shimmer in this.
It's a glow.
This is Absolutely gorgeous.

(38:52):
I, okay.

I love it.

Susan (38:58):
Can you see it?

do you guys think?
I love it.

Susan (39:00):
Yeah.
What does everybody think this?
Okay.
So yeah.
Can you see the definition?

Mm,

Susan (39:07):
I can even go in with the darker shade and do a little bit
more definition down there.
What do we think?

it's beautiful.
It's

Susan (39:24):
But

full look.

Susan (39:26):
it's a full look, but I love, um, how it's super natural
and glowy, but with that pop lipand just the bronzy peachy.

yeah.
It has a se quois, like, I don'tknow exactly what it is, but it
looks great.

Susan (39:42):
So this is an example of, you know, and I'm sure you get
asked this a lot, Hill, youngmakeup artists, whatever,
they're like, you know, oh, ifI'm doing, you know, cool tone
blush, warm tone blush with cooltone lip, blah, blah, blah.
Sometimes messing with thatcolor theory and sometimes doing
something that is, you know,very warm on the skin, very

(40:06):
peachy warm with something cool.
Those little pops

The

Susan (40:11):
really complimentary contrast creates something
that's really natural and reallypretty.
So don't be afraid.

It's interesting to the eye and it
creates a lot of dimension.
Like, you know, Maryland used towear several different red lip
colors, a blue base and anorange base together

Susan (40:30):
Yeah.

it would amplify.

Susan (40:32):
So this is a, yes, this is a huge way.
Now this is 90.
So, you know, it is notinexpensive, my friends, but
you're getting with this, yourhighlight, your blush, eye
shadow.
I even use it as a little linerand then an all over bronzer
highlighter.
So you're getting four products,break it down.

(40:52):
You know,

Yeah.

Susan (40:54):
it's an investment, but this is something that I would
definitely just take this.
With a lip and a mascara andyou're out the door, you know?
Yeah.

vacations.
Like you're going to use that.
That's an evergreen product.

Susan (41:09):
And this is a color palette that I'll be honest with
you.
I would probably use this onjust about most skin tones, you
know, probably someone who is,you know, definitely more
pigmented in their skin.
Um, more melanin.
I think this might not show upas much or it would look very
Uh, very ethereal looking, but Iwould say on most, cause I, I

(41:33):
hate and really never use this.
I know you don't, you know, thisworks on anybody.
It's a, you'll hear me say thatonce in a blue moon because
it's, let's face it, there is noproduct that just works on
everybody.
But I think this is somethingthat will work on most or many
people.
So I would definitely give this.

(41:53):
Give this a try.
It's actually called, uh, whatis it?
Um, multi usage highlighterpalette, so

I love them.

Susan (42:11):
Do you love that?
Okay.

good.

Susan (42:13):
It's, I mean, and I have to tell you, it has, it has that
beautiful Chanel feel.
Um, and then I think the lastthing I just wanted to talk
about, you know, in our littlegrateful podcast, because it is,
it has been so dry.
It's, I mean, it's just, it'sbeen terrible here, like
terrible.
And I, we just talked about myskin falling off.
My hair has just been so dry,but sometimes you don't want to

(42:39):
use an oil, right?
You just want a product that'snot going to weigh it down.
That's just going to make itfeel soft and take away the
frizz, make it feel conditioned.
And I have to tell you theKerastase, the overnight serum,
I'll give you the official name.
Again, another French product.

(43:01):
The, um, What is it?
Kerastase, Nutrive, Nutrive, I'mprobably saying, the 8 hour
magic night serum.

Oh, okay.
I'm good.
Going

Susan (43:15):
going to explain.
I don't just use this at night.
I use this in the day if myhair, I've been wearing a hat,
or my hair feels like it's dryand frizzy.

right?

Susan (43:27):
So, you put

now.

Susan (43:29):
I'm gonna use it right now in front of you, one to two
pumps.

Okay.

Susan (43:34):
Okay?
It's a lightweight serum.

Uh huh.

Susan (43:38):
Rub your hands together, and then I literally just go
like this with it.
Okay?
Then I will wrap it, you know,pull and wrap it, or you can use
a bonnet or whatever and wrap itand sleep with it.
So it's like an overnight serummask, or during the day I'll

(43:59):
just put it on and see what itjust did.
Look at that.
So it took away the frizz.
It makes it look soft andconditioned with absolutely 100
percent no grease.
And it doesn't weigh your hairdown.
It's, it is just the mostmagnificent hair serum.

I'm going

Susan (44:21):
have,

it.
I'm going to order it

Susan (44:23):
it's beyond,

it because we have the opposite hair.
Yours is fine and thick.
Mine is thick and coarse.
And the challenge with me is toget the level of hydration that
I need.
It will start to look heavy.
So like my hair loves oil, hateshairspray,

Susan (44:44):
same.

things.
So I'm going to

Susan (44:46):
But sometimes,

because I'm looking for something that will
give it that shiny, shiny, like

Susan (44:53):
look at,

horse's

Susan (44:54):
it, did

You know, when

Susan (44:56):
it, yes.

hair and they do this in the light.

Susan (44:59):
Well, look,

Yeah,

Susan (45:01):
okay.
It just did that, but you sleepwith it almost like I'll put it
on and then I I'll put two pumpsat night and then twist it and
sleep with it.
Wake up in the morning and yourhair is totally refreshed.
But during the day, sometimesbecause it's been so dry here,

you

Susan (45:17):
I will put one pump and then just like this, but it
doesn't make it greasy orstringy or heavy.
It just makes your hair looklike you.
I mean, but it feels and smellsso good.
Okay.

I'm hoping it will be enough for me.
I'm gonna try it.

Susan (45:34):
I feel like it is really enough.
Like it just, I mean,

gonna put it to the test.
Stay tuned.
Okay.

Susan (45:42):
I am absolutely in love with this product and every
person I've turned onto this hascalled me and thanked me.

gonna try it because usually in order for
me

Susan (45:53):
We'll love it.

moisture, then it gets greasy.
So I'm, I'm, I have tricky hairthere, so I'm gonna

Susan (45:58):
I have not met anyone that hasn't liked this.
So it's the eight hour.
Um, technically it's a nightserum, but like I said, I'll use
it at night.
I'll use it during the day if Ineed to, but I, this is
something that, um, is worth themoney.
It's not inexpensive.
I want to say it's like 60.
Um, but this bottle, I feel likeI've been using it every, I

(46:21):
haven't even made like a dent init.
So who pumps does your whole.
I mean, I just did one because Ihad so much on from last night,
but.
And it's

I love the

Susan (46:33):
so, you know, this is something I'm grateful for, you
know, I'm grateful that my hairis not frizzy and feels good.
I'm really grateful for that.
I'm grateful that I havesomething new to play with and
have a fun little lip and allthese, you know, little new
things.
But I just wanted to share thosecouple of new things for people

(46:55):
who, you know, maybe just wantsomething new or need a little
pick me up or in a case of.
You really need it.
You know, this isn't a pick meup.
This is like a, my hair isdamaged and needs some love and
needs some attention.
And this stuff really works.

well, I think we are, we have a hair
episode coming up because peoplehave been asking us to

Susan (47:17):
really?

a hair episode.

Susan (47:19):
Oh, I didn't know that.

Yes,

Susan (47:21):
well, let's see.
Cause

we are going to be doing a hair episode
coming up, and I'm going to havea lot to say about it, because I
have a little confession.
I have started coloring, and asof just a few days ago, cutting
own hair.

Susan (47:41):
are we going to have to do an intervention on that?
Or, okay, I'm going to, am I

to see how this

Susan (47:49):
Wait, am I going to have to fly to LA and take the
scissors out of your hands?
Cause I, I know you and I, thisisn't going to go well for
anybody, but, um, yeah, I, um, Ithink we should definitely do a
hair, you know, I'm super intohair.
I always have been.
Um, and I.

(48:09):
I'm fortunate enough to have thesame, uh, hair goddess taking
care of my hair for over, well,almost, almost 18, 18 year,
almost 20 years

Mm hmm.

Susan (48:20):
been together.
Um, and, um, Yeah, I have gottensome great tricks and tips from
her over the years and thenworking with some of the best
people in the industry like you.
Anyone that works in makeupalways works with someone in
hair.
So I think we should absolutelydo a hair episode and talk about
the products we like.

(48:41):
And, and also really bring up avery, I think, a touchy subject
that I've been seeing a lot onthe internet.
And.
I'm sure you've seen this too,especially since, you know,
we've just had the substancecome out and congratulations to
Demi Moore for her, um, AcademyAward recognition for that role

(49:01):
in the substance.
But talking about women over theage of 50 with long hair, while
you're looking at them.
And I mean, You know, you can't,it's long, you know, we got long
hair here, people.
And, um, you know,

wait to talk about this.

Susan (49:20):
I want to talk about this on our next episode.
Why don't we make that our nextepisode?
Since this one's aboutgratefulness and things that
we're grateful for, little,little fun things to cheer
everybody up in this gloomyJanuary.
Let's make our next episode nextweek about hair and let's really
talk about it and talk about theproducts we like.
but also really talk about thistopic of what style is

(49:41):
appropriate.
When do you cut your hair?
Do you cut your hair?
What does that even mean?
You know?
Um, so I think that that issomething that I've been seeing.

poll too.
So we want to hear from youguys.
We

Susan (49:53):
Yeah.
I

and what you think because this is
definitely going to be, um,demographic driven by

Susan (50:03):
think so.

I think we're going to hear different
things according to location.
And that's something that Istruggle with all the time.
I'm like, Oh my gosh, when is,when is long too long?
Do I look like an old lady withlong hair?
Do I look like I'm trying toohard?
Like they're so, this is such abig deal.
We touched on it before, but Ithink we're going to really need

(50:26):
to dive into it.
And I really want to hear fromour audience and Susan over the
next few days.
And when you're out and about.
Will you just ask some peoplelet's, let's all talk to people,
random strangers and friends andsee what they think about hair
and

Susan (50:42):
Yeah, yeah, I think it is.
I think it's such, such a hugetopic.
I think everything from, do youhave bangs or not, or a fringe,
you know, like, is thatsomething you should do or not?
Um, should you have long hairover 50?
Should you have short hair?
Should you curl your hair?
Should you keep it straight?
It's There's hair is sopolarizing.

(51:04):
I think it's even morepolarizing than makeup.
So

Look at Lady Godiva.
I

Susan (51:10):
yeah,

Right.

Susan (51:11):
yeah, hair is really pull and really brings out the worst
in some people with theiropinions.
But, um, you know, and as weknow, we really don't care about
people's opinions with our ownself.
Um, so I think we should talkabout that next week for sure.
Let's talk about hair.
It's on.
Let's talk about it.
It is a big topic.

(51:33):
Yeah.
And we'll, I'll, I'll grab someother things besides the
Kerastase.

some buttons.

Susan (51:38):
Some things that I really, um, have been using
that, that help.
And that's another little pointwe should talk about too, is
hair after menopause, right?
I mean, it's not just aboutsociety's views of hair length
and hair styles and hair colors.
go gray, let you know, or coloryour hair, keep it long or cut
it off.

(51:58):
But how does your hair change asyou get older?
Let's talk about things that arehappening with hormonal changes
and how that affects hair.
Cause I think that is

It's a big deal.

Susan (52:09):
what I get most questions.
You know,

it affects, you know, texture as much as it
affects color.
And I'd also like for us to talkabout some of the influences in
our life.
Like we don't care what SallyJoe or Bobby Lou or any Tom,
Dick or Harry has to say, butlet's talk a little bit about
the people in our homes andtheir feelings too, because
sometimes that can drive thebus.

Susan (52:35):
people in our homes, you mean my hair family, we are such
a hair family.
Yes.

Yes.

Susan (52:40):
husband has the best hair in the whole world.

weird.

Susan (52:44):
Uh, you know, my son has always had long hair.
My daughter's hair is down herback.
Like we are, we're known as ahair family and we all see
Gemma.
Like we all have my hair, mywhole family and has, since the
kids were born, she gave himtheir first haircut.
So we can talk about that too,because hair is something that.

Pardon me.

Susan (53:03):
Near and dear to my heart and my family's heart.
And I think a lot of people too,you know, really, it's such a
hot topic.

topic.
Mm

Susan (53:14):
Yeah.
Well, let's talk about it.

I can't wait.

Susan (53:17):
I know.
So come back.

questions.
Get your questions ready.
We're talking about hair.
We're going to getcontroversial.
We're going to get emotional.
The gloves are off and we'regoing there.
So

Susan (53:28):
We'll go in there.

little polls in Instagram and TikTok
beforehand.

Susan (53:33):
Oh, that's a good idea.

we're going to

Susan (53:35):
Let's do it.

So

Susan (53:36):
Let's do it.

stay grateful,

Susan (53:39):
Stay grateful.
Please stay grateful and glossy.

if it's just in your head,

Susan (53:47):
And follow us on Instagram too, because I will
post, um, these new productsthat we just talked about today.
I will post these on Instagram.
So if anyone has any questions,ask away.
Um, I will get active on thereagain.
I know it took the life out ofme doing Doing the daily advent

(54:08):
calendar, but I did it foreverybody.
I

I

Susan (54:12):
took the bullet.

didn't want to interrupt you, so now that,
now that that's done, I'll jumpin a little bit more too.
I wanted to let you do, do yourdo.

Susan (54:20):
Listen, Hillary, just so everybody knows the truth behind
the smoke and mirrors of ourpodcast.
Hillary is the one who isresponsible for Tik TOK.
Don't be looking for me on TikTOK.
Cause I don't even know how touse it.
I had a celebration when it wentdark for 10 minutes.
Okay.
Because I am so deathly afraidof it and I have to get over it.

(54:40):
I know, but.
Instagram, I, I'm the one whotends to try to handle that
portion for us.
So if it's not going well, it'smy fault.
Um, but Hillary is the goddess.
She knows Tik Tok, loves TikTok.
And so she handles that portion.

lately.
I've been a little distracted.
So

Susan (55:01):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So bear with us

us

Susan (55:03):
guys.
We're back.

Follow us there.
Follow us here.
And please share us with yourfriends.
We would love to grow in 2025.
We haven't even officially madean announcement to beauty
editors or anyone else.
This has been a friends andfamily project, but we are
sending our baby out into theworld this year.
So

Susan (55:24):
Let's

tell

Susan (55:25):
go for it.

about us.
We'd be so grateful.

Susan (55:28):
We'd be so grateful.
Support us.
Love us.
We just, we want to spread theword in 2025 as we did all last
year.
Beauty is for everyone andbeauty especially needs to be
seen, felt, and loved by womenover 50.
So please, please, pleaseremember us.

(55:49):
So stay grateful and stayglossy.

That's right.
Stay grateful and stay glossy.
See you guys soon.

Susan (55:57):
See you.

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