December 3, 2024 • 11 mins
Explore the secret to achieving and maintaining a balanced lifestyle with Ariel, an expert massage therapist, and Lucas, a fitness coach who has transformed lives in Northwest Arkansas. This episode of Lifestyle Strength promises to reveal practical strategies to stay motivated and accountable on your wellness journey. Pain can be a daunting motivator, but what happens once relief sets in? Ariel and Lucas share their professional insights on helping clients overcome the common tendency to abandon wellness routines as soon as they start feeling better. Learn how regular check-ins and understanding wellness as a continuous process can prevent progress from stalling.
Join us as Ariel and Lucas discuss the real-life stories of their clients, highlighting the importance of consistency in health practices. Discover how Ariel emphasizes the need for ongoing effort in maintaining health and well-being, cautioning against the all-too-common habit of halting routines prematurely. Lucas shares his unique approach to expressing concern when clients begin feeling better, ensuring they recognize the importance of sticking to their fitness commitments. Whether it's through massage therapy, chiropractic care, or strength training, this episode is packed with valuable advice on sustaining momentum on your health journey for lasting change.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Lifestyle Strength, your guide to
mastering health and well-beingin the real world.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm Ariel, a massage therapist with over a decade of
experience in holistic health,and I'm here with Lucas, a
seasoned fitness coach, who'stransformed the lives of
hundreds in Northwest Arkansas.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
We're here to share real stories and expert insights
about embracing a healthylifestyle while balancing the
everyday hustle.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Join us as we explore practical ways to achieve
wellness and thrive amidstlife's challenges.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Let's dive in.
There's a.
You know I find it interesting.
I know Ariel and I have talkedabout this before I'm in a
unique situation because whenpeople come to me, they know
that they're going to have towork Like it's innate.
When you come in to train andget stronger no-transcript and
get stronger Like we're going totrain together, but you know
that there are going to bethings that you have to do on
your own.
People kind of accept that,even though I still have to,
(00:47):
like you know, work with themand motivate them and get them
to do those things.
Are there things that you do toget them from?
You know, coming in fortreatment, to, to, to go through
the motions and those extrathings and go actually book the
(01:07):
appointment with Ariel, right,right, right, well, you know.
So some of it is uh.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I mean pain is a powerful motivator you know.
So the, the avoidance of painum is kind of how we start you
know, so it's like all right,why are you coming to see us
okay?
If you want to achieve thisthen you need to do this in
order to get there.
Um so we try and start smalland and then usually we're,
(01:32):
we're also trying to keep things, the body moving forward.
So having regular check-ins withpeople, uh, philip is my rehab
director in the office too, sohe, he does a good job with
connecting people.
And then him myself like we'rehow's stuff going at home?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
how you doing on your own?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
how often have you been doing it?
Yeah, okay that accountability.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, exactly, yeah do you ever find because I know
we, we are both in a well, we'reall three in a field where we
don't necessarily have peoplecoming to us when they're
feeling great um their weightsfantastic their stress levels
non-existent.
You know, we there's always aproblem?
Yeah, we don't there's always aproblem so we typically get
(02:12):
clientele that come in with aproblem.
Now, sometimes it doesn'tmatter how much we outline it,
whether you're doing it visuallywith x-rays, and whether you're
talking it through with them.
You're empowering them throughknowledge about their body,
whatever it it is, doesn'tmatter how many times you repeat
showing them how to do a bicepcurl.
Um, my question to you is doyou find because I know I find
(02:35):
that, even though I'm saying heyto reach this goal that you
want and to get you out of pain,the minute something feels a
little better, the minutethey're down a couple pounds,
stop doing it?
Whether it's because they'relike oh, I can main, I can
maintain it on my own, I don'tneed to work, I can just do this
workout on my own.
Or I don't need massage inCairo because I'll use a foam
(02:57):
roller.
Or, oh, lord forbid, I hear thisall the time.
Oh, I just have my husband ormy wife stand on my back and pop
my back.
Um, do you have that?
And what does that look like tobring somebody back?
Cause we talk so much abouthealth, wellness and fitness,
but there's stalls.
People will get this idea intheir mind.
I don't need to continue.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Right, yeah Well.
So one of the things I usuallylike, as people are improving to
, when they, when they'refeeling better, I usually say
now, I'm concerned.
Ok, I like that and so and thenwhat I bring up.
I'm concerned because you'refeeling better, and what do most
people do when they feel better?
They stop doing what it took toget to that point in the first
(03:38):
place and helping themunderstand too, Like we've only
been here for a couple of visits, or you know a month, and
helping them understand too,like we've only been here for a
couple of visits.
Or you know a month and youhave had 40 years before that
that you've been unhealthy, yourspine's been bad, and so that's
why I'm concerned, because Idon't want you to let the foot
off the gas.
We still have a lot of work todo, right, because, remember,
our ultimate goal is not justthat you feel better, but that
(03:59):
you're functioning.
Yeah, and so we can also bringback some of the objective
measurements as well, Like allright.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yes, you're feeling better.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
But remember objectively we're trying to get
here and by no means are weanywhere close to here.
So, that usually helps.
And then, too, what I encouragepeople is like all right, when
are you going to stop exercising?
Or when are you going to stopeating healthy?
When are you going to stopbrushing your teeth?
Why do you brush your teethevery day?
Again, health, when are yougoing to stop brushing your
(04:29):
teeth?
Why do you brush your teethevery day?
Right right again.
Uh, the dental example, people.
I think that clicks with people, because it's like why are you
brushing your teeth every day?
Are you gonna get to the pointthat you have to stop?
No, no, okay.
Then when are you gonna have tostop taking care of your body?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
never, yeah, exactly, and it all depends on.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Okay, what do you want as you get older?
Do you want health and wellnessand vitality?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
or do you want to?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
be sick on multiple meds and in the nursing home
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And so even kind of helping, try to lay that out too
is a powerful motivator.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That's why I take care of my health and do things
on a regular basis gettingadjusted exercising eating
healthy Again, because for me.
I feel great.
Yeah, I want to stay there.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, that's your motivator it's I feel great.
Yeah, I want to stay there.
Yeah, right, that's yourmotivators.
Like, hey, if I feel good,let's, let's keep that up.
Yeah, the goal is maintenance.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah Right, I think a lot of times we, we always try
to shoot for this point thatwe're going to arrive, and just
have it all figured out whichwill never happen.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
which will never happen, right, and it's like a
harsh reality to accept.
Yeah, absolutely it is, andit's like okay, so you're saying
the rest of my life, yeah, butis it worth it?
Yes, 100%, yeah, it's worth it.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Well, I think, over time too, it's, you know, you
say the rest of your life likeit's going to be that hard.
The goal is like like the ideaof maintenance is like
maintaining sounds a lot easierthan just striving to figure
this thing out.
Do you want to have to striveover and over again because he
kept falling off, or do you justwant to be able to like oh,
this is just part of my life,now you can roll with it.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, and if you think we're using the dental
like you're saying, if you pointthat out to them while you're
going to brush your teeth to theend of your life, they're like,
well, okay, because it doesn'tget harder, right, but what
happens when you stop brushingyour teeth and you're not taking
care of your dental hygiene?
And now you have cavities andnow you've got teeth pulled and
root canals and uh, I just onthat topic, my brother, growing
(06:18):
up quite a bit older than me,his key things that he told me.
He said Errol, take care ofyour teeth and don't ever touch
a cigarette, because he had anaddiction to cigarettes, but he
had never taken care of histeeth and it's very expensive.
But that's that example of like.
A lot of times I know myclientele will fall off that
bandwagon and then I'll comeback and I always describe it as
(06:38):
onion layers and we're takingoff a layer and we're getting to
the next layer.
So my other question to youbecause I know a lot of people
fall in this category is theysay I went in to see him, I was
in pain, I felt better for a dayor two, and or maybe they
didn't even feel better andthey're like it got worse or
something new popped up.
(06:59):
Does that tend to happen?
Because I know it happens in myfield, where a lot of times
we're just kind of exposing youto the next thing Because, like
you said, once you're feelinggood, that's when we got a
problem.
Because the reality is, a lotof times when we're pulling
things away, we're exposingthings and sometimes it can get
a little worse, a little yucky,before it's gonna get better.
(07:22):
Oh yeah, do you find that?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
yeah, usually on someone's first visit to, I'm
prepping them like okay.
So here's the threepossibilities of today's visit
one.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
You're gonna feel no change.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
That's the most likely because you've had X, y
and Z for however long they comein.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
So most likely you're not going to feel any different
.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Second likely is you're going to feel sore or
worse.
So especially if we have traumahistory for example, someone
that comes in from a caraccident and they didn't deal
with it.
Scar tissue formation and sowe're going to be breaking down
scar tissue and that creates aninflammatory response, and so
then, with inflammation, you getpain right um, and so I'm
(08:07):
usually prepping peopleespecially like yeah you're
going to be probably in morepain.
You're going to be sore likeyou went to the gym and worked
out for the first time in a verylong time.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Wow, wait, I use that .
That's the reference I use inmy practice.
What is it, hey?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
come on, I use the same reference.
Stop, oh geez, that's what youdo.
I tell people I was like thefirst two weeks of this are
going to suck.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, exactly, it's going to be hard, and then
helping them, and I think whathelps too, though, is laying out
, okay, my expectations.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I think you're going to feel better here.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
based off my experience, I think it's going
to take you a couple weeks, or Ithink it's going to take you a
month for you to actually startfeeling better, Right.
But yeah, most of the time,especially at the beginning,
it's a slow going process.
Right, I actually get jealousof some of those people that,
like I adjust them.
They get up and they're likeholy crap, I feel like a million
bucks.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Wow, that never happened for me yeah
Speaker 3 (08:59):
and and you know they're they're more of the
unique person where you know,like you probably had that
happen too.
Or you massage someone like Ifeel fantastic yes good for you.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Now I'm concerned yes , yes, exactly because I'm not
going to see you gratitude withthat though like I imagine that
was one of the best responses,like as many concerns that can
arise from that, like I imagine,for you, that's really, it's
fine, it's fun.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
You know you, we chiropractic miracles is what we
call it.
You know you could get thosepeople that come in, they can't
walk, you adjust them and andthen they're walking out the
door.
That stuff's cool, wow.
And those usually got moreacute cases like right.
I woke up and I couldn't move.
They come in, they get adjustedand boom they're able to move
again.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Do you think that's hard Like, just obviously like?
Social media, I'm sure, plays arole in what people's
perspective perspective of what,what they can expect to feel
like and they see stuff likethat online.
Do they come in with thoseexpectations Like some do?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
some do, and we usually will ask them to, like
you know, do you?
How quickly do you expect toget this issue resolved, right
like right off the bat, like oneof the first?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
questions.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
We ask yeah, and so that helps us to know where
they're at, and then that way wecan, based off of their case,
like, yeah, I expect that foryou too, or no, I don't expect
that for you.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
And then your reality check yeah, managing
expectations, that also helpsyou as a chiropractor, so that
you're having less negative uhreviews, essentially less
negative experiences throughyour door.
Yeah, because you're like, hey,whoa, whoa, let's manage these
expectations right now, like I'myou know, I'm not god, I'm not
gonna fix it one day, and Idon't know, I don't know if you
(10:40):
tell people this, but they'realways like well, I just, I just
thought that you know, we'd beable to resolve this quicker,
and I'd be like oh so, how longhas it been going on?
Well, probably about 20 years.
I said, okay, well, let'sdouble that.
(11:03):
And some of them come in anddid I say well, it sounds like
you're going to spend the restof your retirement with me.
That's really what I say I have.
I have clients who you knowthey've seen me every other week
for 10 years and they'vebudgeted me into their
retirement plan.
That, as they should right.
That's the.
The ideas.
Is that health, wellness, if itis, that lifestyle doesn't end
until you die.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Thank you so much for listening to today's episode.
We want to invite you back nextweek as we continue the
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Again, thanks for listening andwe'll see you next week.
Welcome to Lifestyle Strength, your guide to
mastering health and well-beingin the real world.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm Ariel, a massage therapist with over a decade of
experience in holistic health,and I'm here with Lucas, a
seasoned fitness coach, who'stransformed the lives of
hundreds in Northwest Arkansas.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
We're here to share real stories and expert insights
about embracing a healthylifestyle while balancing the
everyday hustle.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Join us as we explore practical ways to achieve
wellness and thrive amidstlife's challenges.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Let's dive in.
There's a.
You know I find it interesting.
I know Ariel and I have talkedabout this before I'm in a
unique situation because whenpeople come to me, they know
that they're going to have towork Like it's innate.
When you come in to train andget stronger no-transcript and
get stronger Like we're going totrain together, but you know
that there are going to bethings that you have to do on
your own.
People kind of accept that,even though I still have to,
(00:47):
like you know, work with themand motivate them and get them
to do those things.
Are there things that you do toget them from?
You know, coming in fortreatment, to, to, to go through
the motions and those extrathings and go actually book the
(01:07):
appointment with Ariel, right,right, right, well, you know.
So some of it is uh.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I mean pain is a powerful motivator you know.
So the, the avoidance of painum is kind of how we start you
know, so it's like all right,why are you coming to see us
okay?
If you want to achieve thisthen you need to do this in
order to get there.
Um so we try and start smalland and then usually we're,
(01:32):
we're also trying to keep things, the body moving forward.
So having regular check-ins withpeople, uh, philip is my rehab
director in the office too, sohe, he does a good job with
connecting people.
And then him myself like we'rehow's stuff going at home?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
how you doing on your own?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
how often have you been doing it?
Yeah, okay that accountability.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, exactly, yeah do you ever find because I know
we, we are both in a well, we'reall three in a field where we
don't necessarily have peoplecoming to us when they're
feeling great um their weightsfantastic their stress levels
non-existent.
You know, we there's always aproblem?
Yeah, we don't there's always aproblem so we typically get
(02:12):
clientele that come in with aproblem.
Now, sometimes it doesn'tmatter how much we outline it,
whether you're doing it visuallywith x-rays, and whether you're
talking it through with them.
You're empowering them throughknowledge about their body,
whatever it it is, doesn'tmatter how many times you repeat
showing them how to do a bicepcurl.
Um, my question to you is doyou find because I know I find
(02:35):
that, even though I'm saying heyto reach this goal that you
want and to get you out of pain,the minute something feels a
little better, the minutethey're down a couple pounds,
stop doing it?
Whether it's because they'relike oh, I can main, I can
maintain it on my own, I don'tneed to work, I can just do this
workout on my own.
Or I don't need massage inCairo because I'll use a foam
(02:57):
roller.
Or, oh, lord forbid, I hear thisall the time.
Oh, I just have my husband ormy wife stand on my back and pop
my back.
Um, do you have that?
And what does that look like tobring somebody back?
Cause we talk so much abouthealth, wellness and fitness,
but there's stalls.
People will get this idea intheir mind.
I don't need to continue.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Right, yeah Well.
So one of the things I usuallylike, as people are improving to
, when they, when they'refeeling better, I usually say
now, I'm concerned.
Ok, I like that and so and thenwhat I bring up.
I'm concerned because you'refeeling better, and what do most
people do when they feel better?
They stop doing what it took toget to that point in the first
(03:38):
place and helping themunderstand too, Like we've only
been here for a couple of visits, or you know a month, and
helping them understand too,like we've only been here for a
couple of visits.
Or you know a month and youhave had 40 years before that
that you've been unhealthy, yourspine's been bad, and so that's
why I'm concerned, because Idon't want you to let the foot
off the gas.
We still have a lot of work todo, right, because, remember,
our ultimate goal is not justthat you feel better, but that
(03:59):
you're functioning.
Yeah, and so we can also bringback some of the objective
measurements as well, Like allright.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yes, you're feeling better.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
But remember objectively we're trying to get
here and by no means are weanywhere close to here.
So, that usually helps.
And then, too, what I encouragepeople is like all right, when
are you going to stop exercising?
Or when are you going to stopeating healthy?
When are you going to stopbrushing your teeth?
Why do you brush your teethevery day?
Again, health, when are yougoing to stop brushing your
(04:29):
teeth?
Why do you brush your teethevery day?
Right right again.
Uh, the dental example, people.
I think that clicks with people, because it's like why are you
brushing your teeth every day?
Are you gonna get to the pointthat you have to stop?
No, no, okay.
Then when are you gonna have tostop taking care of your body?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
never, yeah, exactly, and it all depends on.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Okay, what do you want as you get older?
Do you want health and wellnessand vitality?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
or do you want to?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
be sick on multiple meds and in the nursing home
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And so even kind of helping, try to lay that out too
is a powerful motivator.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That's why I take care of my health and do things
on a regular basis gettingadjusted exercising eating
healthy Again, because for me.
I feel great.
Yeah, I want to stay there.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, that's your motivator it's I feel great.
Yeah, I want to stay there.
Yeah, right, that's yourmotivators.
Like, hey, if I feel good,let's, let's keep that up.
Yeah, the goal is maintenance.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah Right, I think a lot of times we, we always try
to shoot for this point thatwe're going to arrive, and just
have it all figured out whichwill never happen.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
which will never happen, right, and it's like a
harsh reality to accept.
Yeah, absolutely it is, andit's like okay, so you're saying
the rest of my life, yeah, butis it worth it?
Yes, 100%, yeah, it's worth it.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Well, I think, over time too, it's, you know, you
say the rest of your life likeit's going to be that hard.
The goal is like like the ideaof maintenance is like
maintaining sounds a lot easierthan just striving to figure
this thing out.
Do you want to have to striveover and over again because he
kept falling off, or do you justwant to be able to like oh,
this is just part of my life,now you can roll with it.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, and if you think we're using the dental
like you're saying, if you pointthat out to them while you're
going to brush your teeth to theend of your life, they're like,
well, okay, because it doesn'tget harder, right, but what
happens when you stop brushingyour teeth and you're not taking
care of your dental hygiene?
And now you have cavities andnow you've got teeth pulled and
root canals and uh, I just onthat topic, my brother, growing
(06:18):
up quite a bit older than me,his key things that he told me.
He said Errol, take care ofyour teeth and don't ever touch
a cigarette, because he had anaddiction to cigarettes, but he
had never taken care of histeeth and it's very expensive.
But that's that example of like.
A lot of times I know myclientele will fall off that
bandwagon and then I'll comeback and I always describe it as
(06:38):
onion layers and we're takingoff a layer and we're getting to
the next layer.
So my other question to youbecause I know a lot of people
fall in this category is theysay I went in to see him, I was
in pain, I felt better for a dayor two, and or maybe they
didn't even feel better andthey're like it got worse or
something new popped up.
(06:59):
Does that tend to happen?
Because I know it happens in myfield, where a lot of times
we're just kind of exposing youto the next thing Because, like
you said, once you're feelinggood, that's when we got a
problem.
Because the reality is, a lotof times when we're pulling
things away, we're exposingthings and sometimes it can get
a little worse, a little yucky,before it's gonna get better.
(07:22):
Oh yeah, do you find that?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
yeah, usually on someone's first visit to, I'm
prepping them like okay.
So here's the threepossibilities of today's visit
one.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
You're gonna feel no change.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
That's the most likely because you've had X, y
and Z for however long they comein.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
So most likely you're not going to feel any different
.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Second likely is you're going to feel sore or
worse.
So especially if we have traumahistory for example, someone
that comes in from a caraccident and they didn't deal
with it.
Scar tissue formation and sowe're going to be breaking down
scar tissue and that creates aninflammatory response, and so
then, with inflammation, you getpain right um, and so I'm
(08:07):
usually prepping peopleespecially like yeah you're
going to be probably in morepain.
You're going to be sore likeyou went to the gym and worked
out for the first time in a verylong time.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Wow, wait, I use that .
That's the reference I use inmy practice.
What is it, hey?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
come on, I use the same reference.
Stop, oh geez, that's what youdo.
I tell people I was like thefirst two weeks of this are
going to suck.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, exactly, it's going to be hard, and then
helping them, and I think whathelps too, though, is laying out
, okay, my expectations.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I think you're going to feel better here.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
based off my experience, I think it's going
to take you a couple weeks, or Ithink it's going to take you a
month for you to actually startfeeling better, Right.
But yeah, most of the time,especially at the beginning,
it's a slow going process.
Right, I actually get jealousof some of those people that,
like I adjust them.
They get up and they're likeholy crap, I feel like a million
bucks.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Wow, that never happened for me yeah
Speaker 3 (08:59):
and and you know they're they're more of the
unique person where you know,like you probably had that
happen too.
Or you massage someone like Ifeel fantastic yes good for you.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Now I'm concerned yes , yes, exactly because I'm not
going to see you gratitude withthat though like I imagine that
was one of the best responses,like as many concerns that can
arise from that, like I imagine,for you, that's really, it's
fine, it's fun.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
You know you, we chiropractic miracles is what we
call it.
You know you could get thosepeople that come in, they can't
walk, you adjust them and andthen they're walking out the
door.
That stuff's cool, wow.
And those usually got moreacute cases like right.
I woke up and I couldn't move.
They come in, they get adjustedand boom they're able to move
again.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Do you think that's hard Like, just obviously like?
Social media, I'm sure, plays arole in what people's
perspective perspective of what,what they can expect to feel
like and they see stuff likethat online.
Do they come in with thoseexpectations Like some do?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
some do, and we usually will ask them to, like
you know, do you?
How quickly do you expect toget this issue resolved, right
like right off the bat, like oneof the first?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
questions.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
We ask yeah, and so that helps us to know where
they're at, and then that way wecan, based off of their case,
like, yeah, I expect that foryou too, or no, I don't expect
that for you.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
And then your reality check yeah, managing
expectations, that also helpsyou as a chiropractor, so that
you're having less negative uhreviews, essentially less
negative experiences throughyour door.
Yeah, because you're like, hey,whoa, whoa, let's manage these
expectations right now, like I'myou know, I'm not god, I'm not
gonna fix it one day, and Idon't know, I don't know if you
(10:40):
tell people this, but they'realways like well, I just, I just
thought that you know, we'd beable to resolve this quicker,
and I'd be like oh so, how longhas it been going on?
Well, probably about 20 years.
I said, okay, well, let'sdouble that.
(11:03):
And some of them come in anddid I say well, it sounds like
you're going to spend the restof your retirement with me.
That's really what I say I have.
I have clients who you knowthey've seen me every other week
for 10 years and they'vebudgeted me into their
retirement plan.
That, as they should right.
That's the.
The ideas.
Is that health, wellness, if itis, that lifestyle doesn't end
until you die.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Thank you so much for listening to today's episode.
We want to invite you back nextweek as we continue the
conversation and be sure tofollow us on social media to get
all of our content and clipsand anything you might've missed
.
Again, thanks for listening andwe'll see you next week.
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