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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Lifestyle
Strength, your guide to
mastering health and well-beingin the real world.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm Ariel, a massage
therapist with over a decade of
experience in holistic health,and I'm here with Lucas, a
seasoned fitness coach, who'stransformed the lives of
hundreds in Northwest Arkansas.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
We're here to share
real stories and expert insights
about embracing a healthylifestyle while balancing the
everyday hustle.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Join us as we explore
practical ways to achieve
wellness and thrive amidstlife's challenges.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Let's dive in.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I know to circle back
, you said that your parents
kind of facilitated that yourability to, you know, get access
to running and stuff like that.
But where did it start?
Like, were you the kid that?
Like you were one minute yourtummy time and then you forgot
to crawl and then you wererunning.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Or you know how,
about that young um, I my
earliest remember memory ofcoming into the sport is my p
teacher noticed I was runningpretty well in my jeans and
tennis shoes in the p class,smile, uh.
So she told my parents, hey,this is maybe something you
should check out.
Um, both my parents ran, so mymom ran in high school and my
dad, he ran in high school aswell, but then went on to run a
marathon when I was young and sohe was still running at the
time.
So he took me out on a coupleruns, started doing some track
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meets I was seven, I believe rana 5k and then some track meets
have cute little pictures of meready to ride my.
Sophie, shorts and t-shirt.
Um, but I didn't quit.
At the age of seven as well.
Um, I got beat in a raceunexpectedly by like a foot,
like she came from behind,didn't see her, and I didn't
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like that.
So I said I'm done with thissport, quitting retired.
Um, my parents didn't push methough.
They were like all right if youdon't want to do it like we're
not going to push.
I think they saw the gift, butthey knew if they tried from a
young age to push me intosomething it wasn't going to
work.
So I came back to the sport insixth grade.
I was able to run for my schoolfor the first time and the coach
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knew I had a little gift, thathe knew I was going to be good,
but again didn't want to push meand so he bribed me with
winning state rings and hangingout with the girls, everything
not running Right.
It kind of worked.
I signed up and started runningkind of miserable all summer
trying to figure out how to runthree miles.
But we figured it out andslowly I got to the three mile
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barrier, which is like a 5k isthe standard for high school
cross country.
At the same time I wasentertaining competitive
cheerleading, which wasdefinitely more curly, like I
don't know.
Sixth grade me was like, yeah, Iwant to do competitive
cheerleading but because Isigned up for cross country, my
parents were like we're gonnauphold that commitment.
You need to go to a week ofpractice and then, if you don't
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like it, then you can do acompetitive cheer.
And when I went to the firstweek of practice I immediately
fell in love with the sport, theteam, just everything about it.
And that was the start and I'veliterally been running ever
since then.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Was that the moment
that you're like I'm going to do
this one day?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I don't know if it
was that exact.
It did take me a little bit tokind of dream and figure out
where I could go in this sport.
But by the end of my firstseason I was able to win the
state championship and go on.
And I don't know, I just kindof see, oh, maybe I can run in
college and get a scholarshipone day, and then maybe I can
run professionally and nap for aliving.
(03:21):
You know right, travel theworld.
So it wasn't always runningthat motivated the dreams.
Sometimes it was like gettingto travel and nap, yeah, yeah,
thanks, like.
But it evolved and I think itwas very systematic to see how I
got to this point, that is thatis awesome.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Do you feel like
winning has fueled your ability
to to go forward with it further, or losing?
Which which one?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
that's great.
Okay, early on it wasdefinitely the winning.
So by the end of my first yearI was able to, I think, win my
first race, or a couple firstraces, uh.
So that was like, oh, kind oflike this um, my sport's very
calculated, so every race has atime so you can see your
progress.
I love that.
My math mind loves to be ableto see the progress and, year to
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year, see how much better I'mgetting.
So that's another componentthat kind of fueled it.
But when I got to college,winning was few and far between,
because it's a lot higher level.
So losing definitely started tofuel it, or just doing things
not reaching my expectations.
I would be like, well, I wantto.
How can I get there?
(04:30):
Yeah, um, and then by the endof college I was more in a um,
fitness level to start winningagain, or at least competing for
the win.
Now I feel like I'm taking astep back just because the level
of competition raises, and somaybe fitness wise I'm not back.
But now I'm in a different ballgame of runners, um, and so I'm
figuring out okay, how can Iget to that level like we talked
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about in the beginning?
How do I get to the nine minutebarrier, then I can try to win,
win different ways.
So it's a little teeter-totterof why, where are you at?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
and how can you fuel
the fire?
Yeah, you became like you werethe large fish in the small pond
.
Yes, yes smaller fish in abigger pond and then swam up.
You know, you just keptupgrading your yes but I think
that's to your point is you'resurrounding yourself with people
who excel and do it at thehighest level, and that's how
you also improve, right and Ilove that.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
So one thing I love
she came back and she's like
Ariel, like listen, I don't knowif I calculated this right, but
like the best of the best arerunning right now, like the
times are like the best timesthat we've ever seen.
Yeah, and you know, on one handshe could have told me, you
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know what that alone makes mewant to stop, but instead it was
like wait, I did that, I wasrunning with the best of the
best.
So, heck, give me four moreyears, I'll be right there.
I'm on beat all right.
Like, like, really, and youknow, some people could have
just stopped, like like theseven-year-old you did, but
you've really, like youmentioned, kind of evolved and
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shifted and changed into thisperson who now you see it and
you go okay, cool, I'll join theparty.
Yeah, yeah, why not not me?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, I think that's
where my consistency and just
being healthy, like that's thename of the game.
If I can stay where I'm at,stay in the conversation, some
of the girls will just be likeI'm done.
I was happy with health where Igot so easily.
You beat them just because theyquit Right and then if I get a
little bit better, a little bitbetter, eventually I have to get
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there, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, I love that,
why not me?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Even just staying on
top.
That's like the Kobe mentality.
It is Right, the Kobe?
Yeah, no matter how good youare, you're always practicing.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
It's tricking.
There's always a little bitmore to improve on.
I have a checklist that'scalled the 1% and it's 1% better
.
It's all the little things, butthey add up over time.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
What's on your
checklist?
What do you?
What do you use?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
So this is where I do
use my engineering.
It's a little bit of a intensechecklist.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I'm okay.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Let's start.
So it's on Google sheets, soit's not just like pen and paper
and I have some graphs andthings and formulas know to make
it all fancy.
But I track my mileage, um,basically like the basics.
So mileage, um kind of myweekly goal or intent.
What shoes I'm training in, um,if I do strides post-run or
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stretching or recovery, if Ihave a snack, not what the snack
is always, but just likerefueling post-run, my sleep, my
water intake, trying to gothrough the list as I go through
Recovery, what's bothering meon my runs, like if my planner
is hurt, I write that down justso I have track of it.
Yes, and then let's see if Ikeep up with my training log.
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If I'm reading for me faith's abig component, so reading the
bible, refueling my mind, um,because that's part of my
purpose and intent um, kind oflike it's a long thing, but
that's pretty much the gist ofit.
It's like all the differentrealms of fuel recovery, running
, everything.
So I go through every day and Icheck it off and then I can see
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okay, what part am I missingout on?
Am I not doing my recovery aswell?
Am I not sleeping good thisweek or drinking enough water or
electrolytes, those kinds ofthings.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
So you know, what's
really cool about that is
because on my end, when y'allcome in, especially my runners,
I always tell them hey, I wantto see a running log.
I want to know that at mile one, your plantar started hurting
you and you've written that youcontinued for two more minutes
but it got worse, or you stoppedcompletely, or you continued
and you ran 10 miles and itrelieved and you were fine, or
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what happened afterwards?
You did the run, but what wasthe effect of it?
Right?
Um, and sometimes, even thoughmost runners do you know a lot
of them, especially high caliber, a lot of my marathon runners,
for sure, you know, write it alldown.
Some of them are just kind oftaken back, like what?
And the reason it's importantfor me is because body awareness
and it's going to wrap aroundback around to you, and so it's
(09:08):
really cool to hear about thisother than you know.
You've turned it into thisengineering.
You've turned it into thisengineering graph.
You're saying, when I've toldyou, hey, let's work on XYZ,
you're adding that it's yourpart of your recovery and your
graph of like weight.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, I would say
over the last 10 years, ariel
has really helped with the bodyawareness and that's one thing
that's elevated from likecollege.
You're busy, like you have timeto run and you have time to go
to school, but you don't havetime for like little bitty
things, so some of those suffer,and so that's what I've picked
up in making this my job andbeing aware, and it's awesome.
People think they drink waterthroughout the day, but if
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you're not tracking it or maybejust thinking about it, you
probably drank 32 ounces andyou're like I'm hydrated.
So I have found like justtracking it makes me aware of
where I'm like falling short.
Um, some people that might notbe good, at least in my
profession.
There are some very type apeople and you can get a little
crazy with it.
I just use it as a checkpoint.
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I don't.
If I miss something, I'm like,okay, I'll just tomorrow, I'll
be better um yeah, I'm not goingbackwards by doing this.
I'm only making myself better,and so it's the more I do, the
better I can get at a fasterrate.
But I'm not going to hurtmyself by not keeping track of
my water for the day orsomething like that.
Yeah right.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Man, my brain like so
in so many like small phrases,
just important things that Ifeel like will be impactful for
people who really needed like avisual kind of what we talk
about on this show all the time,right yeah, or even just like
the overall concept of it, likeI you know, for people who it's
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not a full-time job, that mighteven sound daunting.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
You know, I just see
that because I help the type a
people who you can give them thedata, you can tell them exactly
what they do, and they're likeI can do exactly that, please
tell me.
And they want to trackeverything.
And then you have other peoplewho've got three kids working
full time, like all kinds ofstuff going on in life, and
they're just like, if I cantrick my water, like that's,
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I'll do that.
You know there's the one thing,but it's that one, that that
one thing that maybe it can bejust that, that piece of
accountability cornerstone.
There it can be that datametric that you can use to
improve the next day and thenext week, the next month and
then and then it's just normaland it feels like you're just
doing it because you've createda positive feedback loop right,
you've done it, you've had somesuccess.
You've been a positive feedbackloop Right, you've done it and
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you've had some success.
You've been able to see whatworks, what doesn't work, and
then you add the next thing yeah, but like you get to do it on a
scale that is yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
A little intense.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
It's that intense.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Right, yeah, Just
thinking about the water, though
, I've learned I have a 30 ouncebottle, a 35 ounce bottle, so I
know like which and which onesI need to drink.
So even if you don't want totrack it to the ounce, like if
you create that habit of okay, Ifilled up my three bottles
today and I need to drink all ofthem by the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
You're at least aware
and you know, instead of just
drinking like plastic bottlesthrough my mind and being like I
lost count sorry, right, right,yeah, no, I'm the exact same,
right, I know how myelectrolytes are supposed to
look like, but I'm a type Aperson, right, and there are
people that aren't necessarilylike that.
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And something I love that yousaid.
You said you created this graphalgorithm.
You know log.
That only helps you, and if youmiss out that day on that water
, it doesn't.
It's not like you just give upand cry and throw a tantrum.
You're just saying I'm going todo better tomorrow.
I mean, how important is thatphrase for for each of us just
in life?
Yeah, um, so, wrapping it up, Ijust want to know where are we
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headed.
I know where we're headed.
Okay, we're going to be at theOlympics, so you'll see both of
us, okay, no, I'm just kidding.
Um, but just within this nextseason, you know where are you
headed, what's it look like?
And, um, what's that year goal?
Yeah, so curious.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Now, that we've taken
on back.
Yeah, since we I talked aboutthis a little bit early is
strength, is my goal, justintent for the year um, so I'm
upping my mileage, I'm trying tojust be a really strong runner
by the season, and I guess aprilto our uh, august, that's when
it is um.
So that's my focus for the yearum, I think with the strength
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I'll be a better competitor.
Um, and that's what we'vetalked about before too, is just
being able to be there andcompete when it matters.
Yes, and the reason I'm puttingsome strength is because I
think when I got a little bittired, I wasn't as strong.
That's when I fell off.
So we can counter that withokay, let's get really strong,
and so when those moments come,then I can work on my mind and
competing.
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I think that's going to keepprocessing along.
But, um, that's the here and now, and I think the word I'm
trying to like zone in this yearis undeniable.
My coach likes to say thatsometimes, um like you could not
be denied.
I think that's when I race.
My best is when I have.
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This is what I'm gonna go doand you can't deny it of me, and
so that's where I'm trying toget to.
I'm not there yet, but just bythe time I'm in the season I
want to be like undeniable, likelet's just go do it.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
You're leaving it all
out there.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I'm going to start
using that word.
I know you can't be denied, youcan't be denied Like.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Oh my gosh, like
you're saying, I'm giving a
hundred percent, I'm leaving itall out there and watch this.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, I think that's
why I've raced my best, and so
why not learn from my best racesand try to channel that to
everything?
It might not always play outthat way, but I think if that's
what I'm focused on, got to gobetter more times than not.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Right, yeah, wow,
well, I mean, my brain, you know
, is after this I think I'mgonna spend the day in a haze,
but thank you so much forjoining us.
And really I think again, thereason I kind of want to do on
here is just to show people like, even at the highest caliber,
we're not all that muchdifferent from each other, and
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it kind of gives everybody alittle bit of an idea and
hopefully they can walk awaywith something and go.
You know what?
That really stuck with me?
And tomorrow I'm going to wakeup and I'm going to do this for
myself and I'm going to dobetter for myself, yeah, so I
love this conversation.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Thank you guys.
Yeah, it's been good you bringout all the good I've been
working on internally, so I liketo share it with other people
and hopefully it helps somebodywell, you're passionate.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
We love it and we'll
see you next time, guys.
Peace.