October 22, 2024 • 34 mins
What if the secret to your success lies in striking the perfect balance between consistency and creativity? Join us in this episode as we explore how discipline lays the groundwork for achieving your goals, whether in fitness, content creation, or personal growth. We promise you'll discover how infusing your routines with innovation can transform your journey and keep you engaged. Our discussion spans everything from gamifying workouts to the transformative power of being "creatively consistent," helping you find joy and motivation in your daily life.
We dive into the art of maintaining enthusiasm, even in the face of burnout, by finding consistency through creativity. By drawing parallels between the challenges of running a business and pursuing fitness objectives, we reveal strategies for making your journey enjoyable and sustainable. Embrace the flexibility required to adapt, balance routine with fresh perspectives, and recognize when it's time to shake things up. Our insights will inspire you to stay the course while knowing when to introduce those necessary changes that lead to long-term success.
Environmental shifts can be powerful catalysts for personal development, and we delve into this concept to wrap up our conversation. Sharing personal anecdotes and examples from individuals like Brian Delaney, we illustrate how changing your surroundings can reignite passion and drive growth. Whether it's relocating, trying a new hobby, or altering your daily environment, these changes can lead to significant progress. We hope this episode inspires you to embrace change, recognize your path, and continue your journey toward consistent and fulfilling progress.
We dive into the art of maintaining enthusiasm, even in the face of burnout, by finding consistency through creativity. By drawing parallels between the challenges of running a business and pursuing fitness objectives, we reveal strategies for making your journey enjoyable and sustainable. Embrace the flexibility required to adapt, balance routine with fresh perspectives, and recognize when it's time to shake things up. Our insights will inspire you to stay the course while knowing when to introduce those necessary changes that lead to long-term success.
Environmental shifts can be powerful catalysts for personal development, and we delve into this concept to wrap up our conversation. Sharing personal anecdotes and examples from individuals like Brian Delaney, we illustrate how changing your surroundings can reignite passion and drive growth. Whether it's relocating, trying a new hobby, or altering your daily environment, these changes can lead to significant progress. We hope this episode inspires you to embrace change, recognize your path, and continue your journey toward consistent and fulfilling progress.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
that that made me think to the second point,
because I said this started whenwe were talking about the
monotony of it.
Yeah, the other mindset, whichreally isn't another mindset, I
think it's just.
I think it's the next step.
Right, because you have to toget going, you, and to make any
progress, you have to figure outjust being consistent first,
(00:24):
which is the element ofdiscipline, where it's going to
take a certain amount of timethat you don't know.
Yes, maybe it's a month, maybeit's six months.
Okay, it's going to be anunknown amount of time that
you're going to have to reallyreally rely on, you know,
discipline and just showing upand putting your nose into the
(00:45):
grindstone and doing it to allowyourself to organically find
these new solutions and fromthere, as you start organically
finding those things that helpyou do it better.
I think that's where you comeinto being creatively consistent
.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And this is where I find myself at now, because
obviously I love working out, Ilove challenging myself, I love
trying new things, so that, inand of itself, has come more
naturally to me, just after adecade of being in fitness.
You've had to get creativeright, but you've had to get
(01:28):
creative right.
You've had to get creative butlike.
So I had a.
I had a, a new client yesterday, a young client who has just
got certified to be a trainer,has, um, getting ready to study
exercise science, okay, whowanted to work with a trainer
just to learn more yeah and whatI found was that our session
(01:49):
entailed much less of like astructured workout, because I
didn't have to worry about himshowing up tomorrow yeah, yeah
like I knew he was gonna.
I knew he was gonna show up.
He's gonna do everything heneeds to do on his own right,
because he's already in lovewith it.
Yeah, yeah, right.
And so our session was muchmore of like a creative
(02:10):
brainstorming session, whereit's like how can we figure out
how to make these things workbetter for you, right, so you
feel more connected, so that youlearn something new, so that
you can take that wrong right?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
it was so much fun yeah, it's because you miss me
in the gym.
That's what's going on, becausewe used to do this.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Oh, you're right, You're right.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And if I need a variation of a workout.
You are always like oh hey,check out this one.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Because you A know I'm going to switch to it, b I'm
going to switch to it, b I'mgoing to show up to do it, and C
I might need thosemodifications.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
But I think that creatively consistent, or
consistently creative in thatpath gives you so much power
Because as soon as you'veorganically found that thing
that you're like, ah, I enjoythat.
Yes, right, you can apply it toall these little different
areas.
(03:08):
So that couple I was tellingyou about that gamified just
their workouts.
They found a mode of workingout that took place in a game
and now it's circled back to theweightlifting where you know
something they knew they wouldbenefit from the most.
They kind of liked, didn't loveright but then they realized,
(03:31):
hey, we can gamify this, we cancompete with each other.
Yeah, we can create our owngame.
Yes, with this.
Yes, and then that boosts theconsistency with it.
Yes, because you figured outhow to, how to enjoy it.
And that has taken somecreativity, but it also took a
lot of discipline up front,right.
(03:51):
And so, yeah, I think, I think,I think it's a positive
feedback.
Yeah, it's a way.
It's a way for discipline andconsistency to become a positive
feedback loop.
Right, and I, I've thoughtabout this a lot, I've thought
about how we can makeconsistency that positive
feedback loop so you can keeptaking evolutionary steps, and I
(04:15):
think creativity might be thatkey Interesting.
I like it Because we think aboutthe things that mess up your
consistency, or everybody'sconsistency Work, kids,
schedules, stress, like thingspopping up in life and I think
about what I've done personallyover the years and you know the
(04:40):
stage that I'm at right now,where a lot of the things and my
goals revolve around stuff likethis making more content,
trying to build a biggeraudience, help more people and
reach out to more people and Ihad I came across.
I'm a.
I'm a YouTube guy.
I spent a lot of time onYouTube watching videos.
(05:01):
It's my preferred streamingplatform.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I feel like.
I feel like every text is aboutwell, yes, in the youtube is
you did so and I've known for along time.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
You know, pull back a little bit.
From a business perspective,I've known since I was a kid
that you can make money onyoutube per the views views.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Guys, we had a conversation.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
We had a conversation about this.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I did- not, and so I'm the boomer here, which not
really, but If you didn't know,influencers make a lot of money
on YouTube, right.
And it turns out you could havedone this for a long time.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
There's businesses around it, right, like there's
whole YouTube businesses, and soI'm not trying to get us sucked
into a rabbit hole, I'm justsaying that for a long time,
I've known this, this couldoccur, and I haven't been
consistent, yeah, with themaking of content to try to grow
something bigger than me, right, but I've had the desire yeah
(06:00):
I've had the the want to do thatand I'll have creativity.
I'll have these sparks whereI'm like, okay, cool, let's do
it.
And then the consistency lacks.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
But what I'm realizing is that maybe the
consistency needs to occur firstthe discipline into doing
something, and then, as you doit, you'll figure it out.
And so it's taken me more timeright to get that.
But I look at the span of yearsthat I haven't been doing it.
Where had some consistency here?
(06:35):
That's there.
I've never fully just stuckwith it.
Right, you got my sound effects.
I don't know if they heard thatbefore.
That's the sound effect forconsistency, elias heard it, he
moved and so then, the otherweek, I came across this channel
, and it made me realize that Ididn't have to do something in
(06:58):
the way that I was thinkingabout, for my own standards, how
I needed to do it, ohinteresting.
And I won't go into the detailson it because it doesn't really
matter.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
But the point was was that when I realized that, I
was like oh, I don't have to doit that way.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I can do it like this , and so I gave it a shot, yeah,
and then I was like, wow, thisis actually kind of fun and it
was a lot easier to stomach.
Kind of fun and it was a loteasier to stomach.
Okay, yeah, it's a lot easierto stomach from the whole
creation process because it ittakes time right, got a business
to run, right.
You know, even though it mightbe a piece of the business, it's
not going to move the needleforward greatly today or
(07:36):
tomorrow, right, it's going totake time, right for that to
make an impact for my goals sothat's where that consistently
creative comes in, huh.
I think so Because you know,otherwise I just would have been
banging my head against thewall.
I would have tried somethingand been like, wow, that was
really hard.
Like I didn't get rewardedimmediately, right.
(07:58):
And then I would have got busy.
I would have had other thingscome up, I would have had
clients take care of, I wouldhave all these other things that
matter more, right.
But then I always would havebeen left with that feeling you
know, whether it was that day ornext week or next month of,
like man, I really still want todo this, but like, I haven't
done it yet.
Yeah, why?
Like, why do I keep failingthis?
(08:20):
Right, and I think, right, andI think that's something that
you know, maybe we haven'texperienced as much in our
fitness, but I think that's whatpeople experience all the time
in their fitness.
It's like what my clients sayis, when they finally come to me
, they're like, yeah, like I'vedone this over the last five
years and I'm just like I keepwanting it yeah and I'll do it
(08:40):
for a little bit, and then Ijust get to where I want to be,
and then life will get in theway and yeah it inhibits them.
It's like they take a step andthen they fall back down and
they take a step and they fallback down.
They take a step and they fallback down, and that is really
demotivating.
Yeah, versus like taking thatstep even if they're not, you
know, taking that next stepimmediately.
(09:01):
They're at least staying thereright and then can take the next
step.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, can take the next step and I bet that is
definitely what one girlfriendsaying to the other girlfriend
you know what I mean she wasbeing able to be.
Can chandler was saying tojacklyn just clarification here
that you know she did thatconsistency and then she found
that creative way of enjoying itand so she was trying to, I
(09:28):
think, articulate that Now thatwe're talking about it, I'm like
oh, this is what she wastalking about, Even though none
of us were actually saying thosewords that she was trying to
motivate Jacqueline Because sheeven said.
She said, hey, I have Peloton,I'll let you use my login, you
can do any of the other workoutswhatever you want.
And Jacqueline's like oh, I usemy mom's Beach Body On Demand
(09:49):
or whatever, and I do thosevideos.
It's just more about I'm justnot consistent.
Like I'll do it for a coupleweeks and then I'll stop and
that might.
And now I'm going to go backand I'll be like hey, actually,
maybe you should give that a try.
Like, maybe that's the thingthat you just need to change,
maybe you need to get creativewith it.
It might be the thing thatmakes you stick to it for an
(10:15):
extra week or consistently, youknow, no matter what.
And so I love that you'vearticulated, wrapping that
around, of that conversationthat we were all having this
morning, where no real likespecific words were being used
to say, hey, this might be thething you need.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Right, right and that I think that's that swing and
balance.
So we've talked before about,you know, the person that needs
to like notice the grindstone,just keep doing what you're
doing, versus the person whoneeds to make the overhaul.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
And they're different places, right?
I think it's the same thing,right?
Like, if you're just starting,you can still have that creative
spark.
But as soon as you have thatcreative spark, as soon as that
thing hits where you're like gotfeeling, maybe I should do this
.
Yes, stop thinking about it, doit, just stop thinking about it
(11:07):
and be disciplined with doingit for as long as you possibly
can.
The longer the better,absolutely even right.
Most of the time we don't do itlong enough, right?
Most time it's like a week max,like maybe a month.
But if you're like, you knowwhat, I've had enough.
I've had this feeling that Ineed to, I need a good trainer.
(11:27):
I've had this feeling.
I mean, somebody's been tellingme I need to get a massage.
I haven't been doing it and Ireally I think I need to do it
and saying you know what, I'mgoing to do it and I'm going to
do it every week.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I'm going to be consistent.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I'm going to be consistent with it no matter
what, and just detach from theoutcome of it.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah that.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Okay, we had that slight bit of creativity.
Now we need to embrace themonotony, we need to move into
just just grinding for a littlewhile, because if you don't do
it, you're never going toactually get the full force of
that creativity.
You're never going to you'regoing to reach the potential of
that creativity right if youdon't crank up the discipline,
you crank up the monotony what'sgot to be a catalyst for you
you might have it as a catalystand that's fine.
(12:12):
But as soon as you've had thatgut feeling, it means it's
meaningful like something youdon't need to understand all of
it.
You don't need to understandscience if you want to, is you
want to dive into it, if youwant to study it, if you
absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
All that stuff is bonus, I think I just love that
you said you know we got topause here.
I just love that.
You said if you have that gutinstinct, that is something
meaningful.
Guys, just think about that.
If you have that gut instinctto do something and it's
consistently like popping intoyour life, it's a meaningful
(12:47):
thing, it's trying to createconsistency.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I mean, like I think about.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I think about that's conviction right there, like I'm
like I don't know if I shouldbe listening to this episode I'm
just like you know it.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
It makes sense because if it's consistently
popping up in my mind, forwhatever reason, yeah it.
It means that it needs to takeplace in my life somehow.
Yeah, um, it doesn't mean thatI have to like, change
everything about my life.
It may just mean it's like itjust means I need to make a few
phone calls to some people I'vebeen thinking about, right,
right, that I haven't talked tothem.
Maybe I need to make a point totalk to them more frequently,
(13:21):
right, yeah, but it'sconsistently coming up because
it's trying to manifest itsconsistency in my life.
Yeah, and so, if you know, ifyou find that like you have that
gut feeling, you need to crankup the monotony in that, and
that doesn't sound fun.
It's not a sexy way to say it.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
No, I mean, you know, you ruined the whole episode by
just letting us know andreminding us of hard work that
we're about to have to put in.
Who doesn't love just thecreative part?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Well, that's the tough part, right?
It's because it's so easy to becreative if you have a bunch of
ideas.
That is the fun part.
It's fun to dream, it's fun todo all those things, but nothing
will ever come to fruition ifyou don't, like you said earlier
, take action on it and then bewilling to take that action over
and over and over again withoutneeding to see the fruits of
(14:15):
that action.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Not having to see that hill.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Right, it's like.
I mean it's the same.
A fruit tree is the perfect.
Another perfect example ofsomething that, like you have to
have the seed.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Put in the ground and then watch it and wait and baby
it and every day give it alittle bit of water, make sure
it's got plenty of sun, makingsure.
Finally, when you get thatlittle sprout out of the soil,
you're like, oh my gosh, that'sexciting.
We ain't anywhere close tofruit yet.
We got years not like that.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
You gotta protect it from other all, the outside all
the thing is trying to pull thelife away from it, right, so why
wouldn't that exist also in us?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
yeah, but you know we have to give it that amount of
time, and so maybe we thinkabout this type of person
because, as I was saying that, Iwas thinking, maybe the person
that has so much going on intheir life, so much monotony,
that they can't have any, theydon't have any time for
creativity, right, right, maybethey, they got three kids, maybe
(15:20):
they own a business I thinkabout my clients who've had a
hard time because they had somuch other stuff and the only
reason that they wake up totheir health is because the
doctor has finally said hey, youhave to make a change.
And I think, for you and meboth, one of the reasons we make
these are to help people nothave to do that.
(15:42):
Absolutely.
You don't want to wake up at 50, 45, 50, 55 years old and be
like shit.
You know I got to make a changeor I'm not going to make it to
65.
Yeah, absolutely, you know.
Yeah, so you know, I think it'seasy for people in their 30s and
early 40s especially, to getsome busiest time of your life.
(16:05):
You have so much going on andso you're just trying to make it
by every day, right, and youlose some of that creativity
life, right?
You have so much going on andso you're just trying to make it
by every day, right, and youlose some of that creativity
that way well, you're just,you're fully stuck in the
monotony of other stuff and notyourself, yeah, and so how would
you break that?
like, how would you get a person?
Because we've talked about likefitness being the one selfish
(16:29):
thing that you actually shouldput on, oh right, I don't know
if did you listen to the oneselfish thing that you actually
should put on out?
Right, I don't know if did youlisten to the one with stewart
walker?
We had stewart stewart on thatwas one of the things that he
talked about, that he discoveredafter having suffering from
depression and in a person thatwas around fitness for a long
time and he's got three awesomekids, but two of them have
(16:50):
severe autism.
That's a big thing to have tolive with in your life.
That's a major responsibility.
You know, I'm definitelyempathize with his feelings of.
You know, I'm sure he had somany feelings of helplessness.
There is depression.
So how he overcame that was theconclusion of recognizing that
(17:14):
like he had to put himself firstphysically right so that he
could be the strongest fatherfor his family and for his kids,
right?
And so how do you have any idea, like, how you didn't have
somebody break that monotony ofall the other stuff?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
It's very interesting that you asked me this question
because I would definitely bethat person that falls into this
category, guys.
He knows why he's asking.
I'm that person that definitelycould live that rigid, monotony
life.
I would also just say you knowbackstory here.
I grew up in a very militaryhousehold and so some of those
(17:49):
things are just innatelyingrained in me.
And so good question For me andmaybe for a lot of people
unless you're not activelytrying to be aware of this
(18:09):
monotony that you've putyourself in or into the space of
creativity because I woulddefinitely say I'm more of an
analytical, like realist, kindof mindset.
I'm not that creative typesometimes.
So if you're not activelyseeking that or being aware of
your monotony and just all thethings, uh, a lot of times it's
(18:32):
gonna be moments of big change,whether you want them or not.
This, this being mine, guys um,where it really has forced me
to have to look at some of thesemonotonous things that I do and
also really discover that someof them don't serve me anymore
and that's going to just be partof life in general, but
(18:55):
definitely in health, wellnessand fitness.
Sometimes, eventually,something doesn't necessarily
serve you, but you may still bein that monotonous habit of
keeping it.
Yeah, you know, and if, if you,if guys go listen to the, to
the buckets, the gratitudebuckets or the fuck buckets,
however you want to call it fuckbuckets.
2024 baby well, if you listen tothat you know that you're only
(19:18):
gonna have so many buckets andand if my buckets are overloaded
and I probably don't even needa couple of these buckets, and I
wasn't using any kind ofawareness and I was just living
in that monotony and I wasn'teven applying any kind of
creativity to make some fluidchanges for growth moments like
(19:38):
this, these big things, havemade me have to sit with myself
Right and go oh, dude, like I'mstressed, because I'm carrying
three buckets I don't need yeahI'm being monotonous with things
that are not, uh, progressingmy health, wellness and fitness.
And, more importantly, if ourgoal is to benefit our future
(19:59):
self, and my future self now hasto look different for a little
human being.
I have to be flexible, I haveto be creative, I have to start
thinking who is ariel going tobe now?
You know, uh, who is she now?
What she's got to do daily tomake those changes, and then
who's she going to be in thefuture for her son?
yeah uh, and I love talkingabout myself in third person.
(20:21):
People think it's where it does, it's okay, um, but I I really
I love that you asked me thatquestion, put me on the spot
there, because it is somethingthat I've I've been thinking
about, and so I would really, uh, encourage people to kind of
look at that and see, oh, mygoodness, am I?
Uh am I carrying some buckets?
(20:44):
Am I being monotonous with somethings that I otherwise should
have already gotten rid of andmoved on from?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, because monotony.
I think we're discovering herethat monotony can be a really
good thing in certain areas anda really bad thing in other
areas, where it can keep yourtunnel vision, and that in and
of itself can be a great thingif tunnel vision on a priority
right.
Can be a bad thing if yourtunnel vision on something,
because it's just somethingyou've always done, right, right
(21:13):
I think that comes from, in mycase, being in seasoned.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
We wouldn't say that somebody in the very beginning
needs to be too worried aboutthat.
But but as you are consistentwith things, you might lose that
creative mindset, you mighttake a back seat and just become
monotonous.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
After 10 years of doing something, I think part of
that may also just be likegetting older having more
responsibilities.
Yeah right, absolutely yeah,like all my buckets, all my
strands, all my things, yeah but.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
But, like I said, I don't need a couple of them, and
offloading them has actuallyallowed me to go oh, here's my
buckets for him.
You know what I mean whereas Iwas like, where do I put these
buckets?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
yeah, he has to have his own buckets.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I don't know what.
You know what I mean.
I was like how am I gonna carryall this?
I was like man.
I am not Mulan, I do not.
I can't put the buckets on myback, and you know I can't do
that, and so I think it's greatthat you asked me that.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Well, I think you answered that in a perfect way,
because and I think we talkedabout this before is that you
know that change is usuallyscary, especially really big
change.
And if we can't learn how toembrace change, when change
happens to us, inevitably it'seven scarier because it's so
unknown.
And I think that's what peopleare so anxious about nowadays is
(22:40):
because we want everything tobe sunshine and rainbows and
awesome all the time, and lifeisn't like that.
There's a whole nother topic.
But instead of thinking aboutit with that anxious mindset of
saying like, oh my god, like Ihave this change that's coming,
no matter what and I have nocontrol over it, yes, it's
happening, it's happeninginstead of saying you know, or
(23:02):
maybe you know, maybe for amoment you felt that like where
I'm?
Am I going to put these buckets?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
But instead of just saying, stuck there and frantic
and trying to figure out how toplace all these buckets in a way
that you know it might lookgood on paper or it might seem
doable on paper but inevitablywould have failed or been so
overwhelming that it might havebroken you right you looked at
(23:27):
it as an opportunity to say I'min the next evolutionary step
here.
I need to shed these things, Ineed to get rid of these things.
And that is an opportunisticmindset of saying it's not that
I have to sacrifice these things, it's I have this opportunity
to add all this wonderful newthings and and just that some of
(23:49):
them didn't serve me anymore.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Anyways, in the beginning I was overwhelmed
thinking that they still did.
And you know, when you take alook at it and you're like, oh,
but this, this doesn't correlatewith who my future self is even
going to be Right.
Or this daily thing that I'mdoing is only adding busyness to
my day.
It's not purposeful, it's notintentional, it's not necessary,
(24:12):
it doesn't serve me.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
And again, it just feels like you're doing
something.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and I think I think
again.
For me, I had to have a momentof big change, but I would
really encourage people not towait till that moment.
I would encourage you to kindof spit time where you evaluate
yourself, even if it's everycouple of months going OK.
(24:36):
Am I falling into that trap ofthat monotony?
Am I that person that needs toget a little more creative?
Do I need to shed some of mybuckets?
Do I need to pick up some newbuckets, and and what that's
going to look like movingforward.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, I'm the same way.
I wouldn't say necessarily waitaround, but I do my best work
on my backs against the wall,like when I'm forced into big
change, right.
And so I've learned for myselfthat I need to bring that on
myself.
Yeah, I need to seek forcingchange.
(25:10):
Yeah, instead of trying to, youknow, I make small adjustments,
I would say, like on the weeklyof, like priority-wise, like
just like logistically.
I don't think that's the samething as what we're talking
about here.
I think that you know, for bigstuff, right, you know, I, I, if
(25:31):
I find the idea, and I'm reallythat convicted about this thing
, at that point I'm gonna forcethe change to happen.
And then we're gonna, we'regonna see what happens.
Yeah, right, and it doesn'talways work out for me, but hey,
like for me, I found that Ihave to force it to happen,
because if I sit there andteeter and think about it more
(25:52):
and more and more and more andtry to like squeeze it in it,
it's never enough.
I've never committed enough tothe change and inevitably I just
go back to the comfortable selfthat I was right and you fall
back into those, like those youknow busy work, the things that
you know, make you feel like,hey, I'm, I'm doing something,
but you're not really doinganything.
(26:12):
You know, yeah, um, so maybethat's how people do it, maybe
that's how they, if they findthemselves in the monotony of it
is like force yourself intomaking a big change.
I don't know if there's arecommendation right of what we
could say I mean, for I thinkit's gonna look different for
everybody, totally, totally.
But like health, health,fitness wise, like what could a
(26:33):
big change be?
Would that be like?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I mean some people doing something you've never
done right something you'venever done changing your
environment completely, makingthat massive big change, forcing
yourself to be uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Changing your environment, changing your
environment.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
We've had people.
Brian Delaney is a good example.
He literally had to move states.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
That's a great podcast.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Great podcast.
Go listen to him, guys and hisjourney in cycling.
But what did he do?
He literally was unhappy,depressed, depressed married man
that was like I have to movestates.
Yeah, this man moved states.
I mean, that's a bigenvironmental change.
He pushed himself up againstthe wall.
He made those massive changes.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
And stay tuned for part two because, uh, she has
big news we're gonna get themback on and we're gonna get him
back on and it's so.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Talk about the evolution of change.
That was his big thing that heneeded to do, and even after his
injury, it's amazing what he'shis story, that he's continuing
to get to share it well so, yeah, I think I like that a lot.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I found, um, in regards to changing your
environment, you know that couldcould be joining gym, could be
getting a coach, whether that'sin a gym or to come to you like
the people in your environmentas well, yeah, like you could
change the environment itself.
You could change the people,yeah.
So I'll give you an example ofsomething I've done recently
(28:07):
that I didn't even realize washappening, but now I am fruiting
the enjoyment of it, and so theenjoyment and I think I'm
fruiting that reward so early,just because I know that change
is good for me in certain ways,it also helps that I just like
physical activity, but I'vetaken a pickleball is good for
me in certain ways it also helpsthat I just like physical
activity, right, but I I'vetaken a pickleball, and so I've
(28:30):
been if you.
I know you've taken a pickleballI'm playing with brian uh, but
I I've been a big ultimateplayer since I was in high
school.
I fell in love with it and fora long that has been my cardio
outlet.
It's been my competitive outlet.
It's been a huge piece of mylife that I use for multiple
(28:52):
different reasons, especiallysince I moved to Northwest
Arkansas and didn't know as manypeople for that period of time.
But I stuck with it and it'snot that I dislike it now, right
, I just found myself in aseason where I haven't been
utilizing it as much, right, andit kind of sucks.
(29:13):
But I also kind of don't reallywant to do it for right now,
whether it's just it's hotoutside, like it doesn't work
great with my schedule, and sothere's these reasons that I'm
sort of resisting it yeah andpart of that's just the season.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, the actual like hot as hell yes, I don't want
to be outside in season and whenwe play it, just it just
doesn't coincide with that.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And so, you know, for a while I hear about people
playing pickleball.
I was was kind of like, oh,it's kind of goofy, it's like,
you know, is it really like, isit really that intense, like, is
it really going to be that fun?
And so finally I was like,screw it, I'm going to do it,
yeah, I'm going to get in.
I ordered the paddles and theway I did it actually was a
client asked me to play, askedme to play, and I was like, sure
(30:03):
, yeah, I'll go play with you.
Now I have even more of areason to push myself into this
environmental change.
Of course I, I love it, it'sfun, it's awesome, right, and
this is not a ad for pickleball.
I'm just saying, yeah, like Iget, I'm getting all this
benefit from a new sport, a newgame, a new competition,
(30:27):
something that with new peoplenew people, new people
themselves.
Yeah, also like going from heavyteam sport to a more single
person sport, or just maybe oneother person.
Yeah, um, I'm finding it reallyrewarding and really fun for
reasons other than why I playultimate yeah, that's beautiful
(30:49):
and that's taken just kind offorcing myself into, yeah, that
environmental shift well, Ithink.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I think you continue to say that because you know
yourself well enough that youneed to sometimes force change
in yourself back up and install.
I would say mine looked alittle different because once
again, I had to have a big eventhappen in my life for me to
stop focus on running, and thatwas the inability to run.
(31:15):
And then, all of a sudden, Iinvested even more energy into
bodybuilding.
And how much I lovedbodybuilding, you know, or I
really actually found a love for.
I know this sounds crazy.
There are workout classes, guys.
They are workout classes forpole dancing and if you have
(31:35):
upper body strength.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Are they workout classes there?
No, they are.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
They are, and if you have upper body strength and
mobility because you should be agymnast, I just excel at it.
Naturally I wasn't sure, I wasa little hesitant, not really my
environment choice, because youare allowed to wear just kind
of skimpy environment clothes inthis environment, but also they
(32:01):
serve a purpose.
You need your skin on the pole.
There's like a lot of it's avery vulnerable setting it
really much is, and so I was alittle worried.
But then I took to it naturally, and I never really thought
that I would enjoy something asmuch as I enjoyed running, but
it fulfilled something in me aphysical activity that I could
do and made me feel confidentand made me feel strong that I
(32:24):
was able to do these things.
And so, again, I had to beplaced in a position where I had
to remove an activity from mylife because of inability to do
it.
But I definitely wouldencourage people to be more
aware and not wait till themoments like I've had to have in
life Sounds like I'm verystubborn at this point.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
In that case, guys, I think we're wrapping.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, I think we're wrapping up.
You know, I think you'velearned all you need to know
today.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Well, you know, and I think because we started the
episode, we started our firstlike official video episode
actually talking about ourpodcast and the steps that we
need to take, and we're kind ofending it thinking that you know
how the environments change andchange how you do certain
things and how that can affectyour ability to be consistent
(33:14):
and hopefully for the better,right Right, your ability to be
consistent and hopefully for forthe better, right right, so
that you can continue to findthose next little evolutionary
steps, so you can continue toclimb your mountain and actually
make progress and the thingsthat you want to make progress,
and especially in regards toyour health and wellness.
And like I think about it andwe've gone from y'all haven't
seen it, but recording in alittle tiny conference room with
(33:36):
a curtain up, yes, uh, yes youknow, antagonistically trying to
win over an argument with eachother, to sitting in this really
awesome lounge yeah just havinga really good conversation
about how we can all be betterand do better and feel better in
(33:57):
our lives, and, you know, Ithink that that's in and of
itself.
Us being in here is a beautifulthing and wonderful yeah it's
very rewarding.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
So go find your rewards, guys.
Hopefully this podcast hashelped you kind of sit with
yourself, figure out theevolution of change and where
your life has been, where it'sat, and where it's headed.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Thanks for joining us .
We'll see you in the next one.
that that made me think to the second point,
because I said this started whenwe were talking about the
monotony of it.
Yeah, the other mindset, whichreally isn't another mindset, I
think it's just.
I think it's the next step.
Right, because you have to toget going, you, and to make any
progress, you have to figure outjust being consistent first,
(00:24):
which is the element ofdiscipline, where it's going to
take a certain amount of timethat you don't know.
Yes, maybe it's a month, maybeit's six months.
Okay, it's going to be anunknown amount of time that
you're going to have to reallyreally rely on, you know,
discipline and just showing upand putting your nose into the
(00:45):
grindstone and doing it to allowyourself to organically find
these new solutions and fromthere, as you start organically
finding those things that helpyou do it better.
I think that's where you comeinto being creatively consistent
.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And this is where I find myself at now, because
obviously I love working out, Ilove challenging myself, I love
trying new things, so that, inand of itself, has come more
naturally to me, just after adecade of being in fitness.
You've had to get creativeright, but you've had to get
(01:28):
creative right.
You've had to get creative butlike.
So I had a.
I had a, a new client yesterday, a young client who has just
got certified to be a trainer,has, um, getting ready to study
exercise science, okay, whowanted to work with a trainer
just to learn more yeah and whatI found was that our session
(01:49):
entailed much less of like astructured workout, because I
didn't have to worry about himshowing up tomorrow yeah, yeah
like I knew he was gonna.
I knew he was gonna show up.
He's gonna do everything heneeds to do on his own right,
because he's already in lovewith it.
Yeah, yeah, right.
And so our session was muchmore of like a creative
(02:10):
brainstorming session, whereit's like how can we figure out
how to make these things workbetter for you, right, so you
feel more connected, so that youlearn something new, so that
you can take that wrong right?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
it was so much fun yeah, it's because you miss me
in the gym.
That's what's going on, becausewe used to do this.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Oh, you're right, You're right.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And if I need a variation of a workout.
You are always like oh hey,check out this one.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Because you A know I'm going to switch to it, b I'm
going to switch to it, b I'mgoing to show up to do it, and C
I might need thosemodifications.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
But I think that creatively consistent, or
consistently creative in thatpath gives you so much power
Because as soon as you'veorganically found that thing
that you're like, ah, I enjoythat.
Yes, right, you can apply it toall these little different
areas.
(03:08):
So that couple I was tellingyou about that gamified just
their workouts.
They found a mode of workingout that took place in a game
and now it's circled back to theweightlifting where you know
something they knew they wouldbenefit from the most.
They kind of liked, didn't loveright but then they realized,
(03:31):
hey, we can gamify this, we cancompete with each other.
Yeah, we can create our owngame.
Yes, with this.
Yes, and then that boosts theconsistency with it.
Yes, because you figured outhow to, how to enjoy it.
And that has taken somecreativity, but it also took a
lot of discipline up front,right.
(03:51):
And so, yeah, I think, I think,I think it's a positive
feedback.
Yeah, it's a way.
It's a way for discipline andconsistency to become a positive
feedback loop.
Right, and I, I've thoughtabout this a lot, I've thought
about how we can makeconsistency that positive
feedback loop so you can keeptaking evolutionary steps, and I
(04:15):
think creativity might be thatkey Interesting.
I like it Because we think aboutthe things that mess up your
consistency, or everybody'sconsistency Work, kids,
schedules, stress, like thingspopping up in life and I think
about what I've done personallyover the years and you know the
(04:40):
stage that I'm at right now,where a lot of the things and my
goals revolve around stuff likethis making more content,
trying to build a biggeraudience, help more people and
reach out to more people and Ihad I came across.
I'm a.
I'm a YouTube guy.
I spent a lot of time onYouTube watching videos.
(05:01):
It's my preferred streamingplatform.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I feel like.
I feel like every text is aboutwell, yes, in the youtube is
you did so and I've known for along time.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
You know, pull back a little bit.
From a business perspective,I've known since I was a kid
that you can make money onyoutube per the views views.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Guys, we had a conversation.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
We had a conversation about this.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I did- not, and so I'm the boomer here, which not
really, but If you didn't know,influencers make a lot of money
on YouTube, right.
And it turns out you could havedone this for a long time.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
There's businesses around it, right, like there's
whole YouTube businesses, and soI'm not trying to get us sucked
into a rabbit hole, I'm justsaying that for a long time,
I've known this, this couldoccur, and I haven't been
consistent, yeah, with themaking of content to try to grow
something bigger than me, right, but I've had the desire yeah
(06:00):
I've had the the want to do thatand I'll have creativity.
I'll have these sparks whereI'm like, okay, cool, let's do
it.
And then the consistency lacks.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
But what I'm realizing is that maybe the
consistency needs to occur firstthe discipline into doing
something, and then, as you doit, you'll figure it out.
And so it's taken me more timeright to get that.
But I look at the span of yearsthat I haven't been doing it.
Where had some consistency here?
(06:35):
That's there.
I've never fully just stuckwith it.
Right, you got my sound effects.
I don't know if they heard thatbefore.
That's the sound effect forconsistency, elias heard it, he
moved and so then, the otherweek, I came across this channel
, and it made me realize that Ididn't have to do something in
(06:58):
the way that I was thinkingabout, for my own standards, how
I needed to do it, ohinteresting.
And I won't go into the detailson it because it doesn't really
matter.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
But the point was was that when I realized that, I
was like oh, I don't have to doit that way.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I can do it like this , and so I gave it a shot, yeah,
and then I was like, wow, thisis actually kind of fun and it
was a lot easier to stomach.
Kind of fun and it was a loteasier to stomach.
Okay, yeah, it's a lot easierto stomach from the whole
creation process because it ittakes time right, got a business
to run, right.
You know, even though it mightbe a piece of the business, it's
not going to move the needleforward greatly today or
(07:36):
tomorrow, right, it's going totake time, right for that to
make an impact for my goals sothat's where that consistently
creative comes in, huh.
I think so Because you know,otherwise I just would have been
banging my head against thewall.
I would have tried somethingand been like, wow, that was
really hard.
Like I didn't get rewardedimmediately, right.
(07:58):
And then I would have got busy.
I would have had other thingscome up, I would have had
clients take care of, I wouldhave all these other things that
matter more, right.
But then I always would havebeen left with that feeling you
know, whether it was that day ornext week or next month of,
like man, I really still want todo this, but like, I haven't
done it yet.
Yeah, why?
Like, why do I keep failingthis?
(08:20):
Right, and I think, right, andI think that's something that
you know, maybe we haven'texperienced as much in our
fitness, but I think that's whatpeople experience all the time
in their fitness.
It's like what my clients sayis, when they finally come to me
, they're like, yeah, like I'vedone this over the last five
years and I'm just like I keepwanting it yeah and I'll do it
(08:40):
for a little bit, and then Ijust get to where I want to be,
and then life will get in theway and yeah it inhibits them.
It's like they take a step andthen they fall back down and
they take a step and they fallback down.
They take a step and they fallback down, and that is really
demotivating.
Yeah, versus like taking thatstep even if they're not, you
know, taking that next stepimmediately.
(09:01):
They're at least staying thereright and then can take the next
step.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, can take the next step and I bet that is
definitely what one girlfriendsaying to the other girlfriend
you know what I mean she wasbeing able to be.
Can chandler was saying tojacklyn just clarification here
that you know she did thatconsistency and then she found
that creative way of enjoying itand so she was trying to, I
(09:28):
think, articulate that Now thatwe're talking about it, I'm like
oh, this is what she wastalking about, Even though none
of us were actually saying thosewords that she was trying to
motivate Jacqueline Because sheeven said.
She said, hey, I have Peloton,I'll let you use my login, you
can do any of the other workoutswhatever you want.
And Jacqueline's like oh, I usemy mom's Beach Body On Demand
(09:49):
or whatever, and I do thosevideos.
It's just more about I'm justnot consistent.
Like I'll do it for a coupleweeks and then I'll stop and
that might.
And now I'm going to go backand I'll be like hey, actually,
maybe you should give that a try.
Like, maybe that's the thingthat you just need to change,
maybe you need to get creativewith it.
It might be the thing thatmakes you stick to it for an
(10:15):
extra week or consistently, youknow, no matter what.
And so I love that you'vearticulated, wrapping that
around, of that conversationthat we were all having this
morning, where no real likespecific words were being used
to say, hey, this might be thething you need.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Right, right and that I think that's that swing and
balance.
So we've talked before about,you know, the person that needs
to like notice the grindstone,just keep doing what you're
doing, versus the person whoneeds to make the overhaul.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
And they're different places, right?
I think it's the same thing,right?
Like, if you're just starting,you can still have that creative
spark.
But as soon as you have thatcreative spark, as soon as that
thing hits where you're like gotfeeling, maybe I should do this
.
Yes, stop thinking about it, doit, just stop thinking about it
(11:07):
and be disciplined with doingit for as long as you possibly
can.
The longer the better,absolutely even right.
Most of the time we don't do itlong enough, right?
Most time it's like a week max,like maybe a month.
But if you're like, you knowwhat, I've had enough.
I've had this feeling that Ineed to, I need a good trainer.
(11:27):
I've had this feeling.
I mean, somebody's been tellingme I need to get a massage.
I haven't been doing it and Ireally I think I need to do it
and saying you know what, I'mgoing to do it and I'm going to
do it every week.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I'm going to be consistent.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I'm going to be consistent with it no matter
what, and just detach from theoutcome of it.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah that.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Okay, we had that slight bit of creativity.
Now we need to embrace themonotony, we need to move into
just just grinding for a littlewhile, because if you don't do
it, you're never going toactually get the full force of
that creativity.
You're never going to you'regoing to reach the potential of
that creativity right if youdon't crank up the discipline,
you crank up the monotony what'sgot to be a catalyst for you
you might have it as a catalystand that's fine.
(12:12):
But as soon as you've had thatgut feeling, it means it's
meaningful like something youdon't need to understand all of
it.
You don't need to understandscience if you want to, is you
want to dive into it, if youwant to study it, if you
absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
All that stuff is bonus, I think I just love that
you said you know we got topause here.
I just love that.
You said if you have that gutinstinct, that is something
meaningful.
Guys, just think about that.
If you have that gut instinctto do something and it's
consistently like popping intoyour life, it's a meaningful
(12:47):
thing, it's trying to createconsistency.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I mean, like I think about.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I think about that's conviction right there, like I'm
like I don't know if I shouldbe listening to this episode I'm
just like you know it.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
It makes sense because if it's consistently
popping up in my mind, forwhatever reason, yeah it.
It means that it needs to takeplace in my life somehow.
Yeah, um, it doesn't mean thatI have to like, change
everything about my life.
It may just mean it's like itjust means I need to make a few
phone calls to some people I'vebeen thinking about, right,
right, that I haven't talked tothem.
Maybe I need to make a point totalk to them more frequently,
(13:21):
right, yeah, but it'sconsistently coming up because
it's trying to manifest itsconsistency in my life.
Yeah, and so, if you know, ifyou find that like you have that
gut feeling, you need to crankup the monotony in that, and
that doesn't sound fun.
It's not a sexy way to say it.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
No, I mean, you know, you ruined the whole episode by
just letting us know andreminding us of hard work that
we're about to have to put in.
Who doesn't love just thecreative part?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Well, that's the tough part, right?
It's because it's so easy to becreative if you have a bunch of
ideas.
That is the fun part.
It's fun to dream, it's fun todo all those things, but nothing
will ever come to fruition ifyou don't, like you said earlier
, take action on it and then bewilling to take that action over
and over and over again withoutneeding to see the fruits of
(14:15):
that action.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Not having to see that hill.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Right, it's like.
I mean it's the same.
A fruit tree is the perfect.
Another perfect example ofsomething that, like you have to
have the seed.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Put in the ground and then watch it and wait and baby
it and every day give it alittle bit of water, make sure
it's got plenty of sun, makingsure.
Finally, when you get thatlittle sprout out of the soil,
you're like, oh my gosh, that'sexciting.
We ain't anywhere close tofruit yet.
We got years not like that.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
You gotta protect it from other all, the outside all
the thing is trying to pull thelife away from it, right, so why
wouldn't that exist also in us?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
yeah, but you know we have to give it that amount of
time, and so maybe we thinkabout this type of person
because, as I was saying that, Iwas thinking, maybe the person
that has so much going on intheir life, so much monotony,
that they can't have any, theydon't have any time for
creativity, right, right, maybethey, they got three kids, maybe
(15:20):
they own a business I thinkabout my clients who've had a
hard time because they had somuch other stuff and the only
reason that they wake up totheir health is because the
doctor has finally said hey, youhave to make a change.
And I think, for you and meboth, one of the reasons we make
these are to help people nothave to do that.
(15:42):
Absolutely.
You don't want to wake up at 50, 45, 50, 55 years old and be
like shit.
You know I got to make a changeor I'm not going to make it to
65.
Yeah, absolutely, you know.
Yeah, so you know, I think it'seasy for people in their 30s and
early 40s especially, to getsome busiest time of your life.
(16:05):
You have so much going on andso you're just trying to make it
by every day, right, and youlose some of that creativity
life, right?
You have so much going on andso you're just trying to make it
by every day, right, and youlose some of that creativity
that way well, you're just,you're fully stuck in the
monotony of other stuff and notyourself, yeah, and so how would
you break that?
like, how would you get a person?
Because we've talked about likefitness being the one selfish
(16:29):
thing that you actually shouldput on, oh right, I don't know
if did you listen to the oneselfish thing that you actually
should put on out?
Right, I don't know if did youlisten to the one with stewart
walker?
We had stewart stewart on thatwas one of the things that he
talked about, that he discoveredafter having suffering from
depression and in a person thatwas around fitness for a long
time and he's got three awesomekids, but two of them have
(16:50):
severe autism.
That's a big thing to have tolive with in your life.
That's a major responsibility.
You know, I'm definitelyempathize with his feelings of.
You know, I'm sure he had somany feelings of helplessness.
There is depression.
So how he overcame that was theconclusion of recognizing that
(17:14):
like he had to put himself firstphysically right so that he
could be the strongest fatherfor his family and for his kids,
right?
And so how do you have any idea, like, how you didn't have
somebody break that monotony ofall the other stuff?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
It's very interesting that you asked me this question
because I would definitely bethat person that falls into this
category, guys.
He knows why he's asking.
I'm that person that definitelycould live that rigid, monotony
life.
I would also just say you knowbackstory here.
I grew up in a very militaryhousehold and so some of those
(17:49):
things are just innatelyingrained in me.
And so good question For me andmaybe for a lot of people
unless you're not activelytrying to be aware of this
(18:09):
monotony that you've putyourself in or into the space of
creativity because I woulddefinitely say I'm more of an
analytical, like realist, kindof mindset.
I'm not that creative typesometimes.
So if you're not activelyseeking that or being aware of
your monotony and just all thethings, uh, a lot of times it's
(18:32):
gonna be moments of big change,whether you want them or not.
This, this being mine, guys um,where it really has forced me
to have to look at some of thesemonotonous things that I do and
also really discover that someof them don't serve me anymore
and that's going to just be partof life in general, but
(18:55):
definitely in health, wellnessand fitness.
Sometimes, eventually,something doesn't necessarily
serve you, but you may still bein that monotonous habit of
keeping it.
Yeah, you know, and if, if you,if guys go listen to the, to
the buckets, the gratitudebuckets or the fuck buckets,
however you want to call it fuckbuckets.
2024 baby well, if you listen tothat you know that you're only
(19:18):
gonna have so many buckets andand if my buckets are overloaded
and I probably don't even needa couple of these buckets, and I
wasn't using any kind ofawareness and I was just living
in that monotony and I wasn'teven applying any kind of
creativity to make some fluidchanges for growth moments like
(19:38):
this, these big things, havemade me have to sit with myself
Right and go oh, dude, like I'mstressed, because I'm carrying
three buckets I don't need yeahI'm being monotonous with things
that are not, uh, progressingmy health, wellness and fitness.
And, more importantly, if ourgoal is to benefit our future
(19:59):
self, and my future self now hasto look different for a little
human being.
I have to be flexible, I haveto be creative, I have to start
thinking who is ariel going tobe now?
You know, uh, who is she now?
What she's got to do daily tomake those changes, and then
who's she going to be in thefuture for her son?
yeah uh, and I love talkingabout myself in third person.
(20:21):
People think it's where it does, it's okay, um, but I I really
I love that you asked me thatquestion, put me on the spot
there, because it is somethingthat I've I've been thinking
about, and so I would really, uh, encourage people to kind of
look at that and see, oh, mygoodness, am I?
Uh am I carrying some buckets?
(20:44):
Am I being monotonous with somethings that I otherwise should
have already gotten rid of andmoved on from?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, because monotony.
I think we're discovering herethat monotony can be a really
good thing in certain areas anda really bad thing in other
areas, where it can keep yourtunnel vision, and that in and
of itself can be a great thingif tunnel vision on a priority
right.
Can be a bad thing if yourtunnel vision on something,
because it's just somethingyou've always done, right, right
(21:13):
I think that comes from, in mycase, being in seasoned.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
We wouldn't say that somebody in the very beginning
needs to be too worried aboutthat.
But but as you are consistentwith things, you might lose that
creative mindset, you mighttake a back seat and just become
monotonous.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
After 10 years of doing something, I think part of
that may also just be likegetting older having more
responsibilities.
Yeah right, absolutely yeah,like all my buckets, all my
strands, all my things, yeah but.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
But, like I said, I don't need a couple of them, and
offloading them has actuallyallowed me to go oh, here's my
buckets for him.
You know what I mean whereas Iwas like, where do I put these
buckets?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
yeah, he has to have his own buckets.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I don't know what.
You know what I mean.
I was like how am I gonna carryall this?
I was like man.
I am not Mulan, I do not.
I can't put the buckets on myback, and you know I can't do
that, and so I think it's greatthat you asked me that.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Well, I think you answered that in a perfect way,
because and I think we talkedabout this before is that you
know that change is usuallyscary, especially really big
change.
And if we can't learn how toembrace change, when change
happens to us, inevitably it'seven scarier because it's so
unknown.
And I think that's what peopleare so anxious about nowadays is
(22:40):
because we want everything tobe sunshine and rainbows and
awesome all the time, and lifeisn't like that.
There's a whole nother topic.
But instead of thinking aboutit with that anxious mindset of
saying like, oh my god, like Ihave this change that's coming,
no matter what and I have nocontrol over it, yes, it's
happening, it's happeninginstead of saying you know, or
(23:02):
maybe you know, maybe for amoment you felt that like where
I'm?
Am I going to put these buckets?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
But instead of just saying, stuck there and frantic
and trying to figure out how toplace all these buckets in a way
that you know it might lookgood on paper or it might seem
doable on paper but inevitablywould have failed or been so
overwhelming that it might havebroken you right you looked at
(23:27):
it as an opportunity to say I'min the next evolutionary step
here.
I need to shed these things, Ineed to get rid of these things.
And that is an opportunisticmindset of saying it's not that
I have to sacrifice these things, it's I have this opportunity
to add all this wonderful newthings and and just that some of
(23:49):
them didn't serve me anymore.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Anyways, in the beginning I was overwhelmed
thinking that they still did.
And you know, when you take alook at it and you're like, oh,
but this, this doesn't correlatewith who my future self is even
going to be Right.
Or this daily thing that I'mdoing is only adding busyness to
my day.
It's not purposeful, it's notintentional, it's not necessary,
(24:12):
it doesn't serve me.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
And again, it just feels like you're doing
something.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and I think I think
again.
For me, I had to have a momentof big change, but I would
really encourage people not towait till that moment.
I would encourage you to kindof spit time where you evaluate
yourself, even if it's everycouple of months going OK.
(24:36):
Am I falling into that trap ofthat monotony?
Am I that person that needs toget a little more creative?
Do I need to shed some of mybuckets?
Do I need to pick up some newbuckets, and and what that's
going to look like movingforward.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, I'm the same way.
I wouldn't say necessarily waitaround, but I do my best work
on my backs against the wall,like when I'm forced into big
change, right.
And so I've learned for myselfthat I need to bring that on
myself.
Yeah, I need to seek forcingchange.
(25:10):
Yeah, instead of trying to, youknow, I make small adjustments,
I would say, like on the weeklyof, like priority-wise, like
just like logistically.
I don't think that's the samething as what we're talking
about here.
I think that you know, for bigstuff, right, you know, I, I, if
(25:31):
I find the idea, and I'm reallythat convicted about this thing
, at that point I'm gonna forcethe change to happen.
And then we're gonna, we'regonna see what happens.
Yeah, right, and it doesn'talways work out for me, but hey,
like for me, I found that Ihave to force it to happen,
because if I sit there andteeter and think about it more
(25:52):
and more and more and more andtry to like squeeze it in it,
it's never enough.
I've never committed enough tothe change and inevitably I just
go back to the comfortable selfthat I was right and you fall
back into those, like those youknow busy work, the things that
you know, make you feel like,hey, I'm, I'm doing something,
but you're not really doinganything.
(26:12):
You know, yeah, um, so maybethat's how people do it, maybe
that's how they, if they findthemselves in the monotony of it
is like force yourself intomaking a big change.
I don't know if there's arecommendation right of what we
could say I mean, for I thinkit's gonna look different for
everybody, totally, totally.
But like health, health,fitness wise, like what could a
(26:33):
big change be?
Would that be like?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I mean some people doing something you've never
done right something you'venever done changing your
environment completely, makingthat massive big change, forcing
yourself to be uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Changing your environment, changing your
environment.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
We've had people.
Brian Delaney is a good example.
He literally had to move states.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
That's a great podcast.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Great podcast.
Go listen to him, guys and hisjourney in cycling.
But what did he do?
He literally was unhappy,depressed, depressed married man
that was like I have to movestates.
Yeah, this man moved states.
I mean, that's a bigenvironmental change.
He pushed himself up againstthe wall.
He made those massive changes.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
And stay tuned for part two because, uh, she has
big news we're gonna get themback on and we're gonna get him
back on and it's so.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Talk about the evolution of change.
That was his big thing that heneeded to do, and even after his
injury, it's amazing what he'shis story, that he's continuing
to get to share it well so, yeah, I think I like that a lot.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I found, um, in regards to changing your
environment, you know that couldcould be joining gym, could be
getting a coach, whether that'sin a gym or to come to you like
the people in your environmentas well, yeah, like you could
change the environment itself.
You could change the people,yeah.
So I'll give you an example ofsomething I've done recently
(28:07):
that I didn't even realize washappening, but now I am fruiting
the enjoyment of it, and so theenjoyment and I think I'm
fruiting that reward so early,just because I know that change
is good for me in certain ways,it also helps that I just like
physical activity, but I'vetaken a pickleball is good for
me in certain ways it also helpsthat I just like physical
activity, right, but I I'vetaken a pickleball, and so I've
(28:30):
been if you.
I know you've taken a pickleballI'm playing with brian uh, but
I I've been a big ultimateplayer since I was in high
school.
I fell in love with it and fora long that has been my cardio
outlet.
It's been my competitive outlet.
It's been a huge piece of mylife that I use for multiple
(28:52):
different reasons, especiallysince I moved to Northwest
Arkansas and didn't know as manypeople for that period of time.
But I stuck with it and it'snot that I dislike it now, right
, I just found myself in aseason where I haven't been
utilizing it as much, right, andit kind of sucks.
(29:13):
But I also kind of don't reallywant to do it for right now,
whether it's just it's hotoutside, like it doesn't work
great with my schedule, and sothere's these reasons that I'm
sort of resisting it yeah andpart of that's just the season.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, the actual like hot as hell yes, I don't want
to be outside in season and whenwe play it, just it just
doesn't coincide with that.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And so, you know, for a while I hear about people
playing pickleball.
I was was kind of like, oh,it's kind of goofy, it's like,
you know, is it really like, isit really that intense, like, is
it really going to be that fun?
And so finally I was like,screw it, I'm going to do it,
yeah, I'm going to get in.
I ordered the paddles and theway I did it actually was a
client asked me to play, askedme to play, and I was like, sure
(30:03):
, yeah, I'll go play with you.
Now I have even more of areason to push myself into this
environmental change.
Of course I, I love it, it'sfun, it's awesome, right, and
this is not a ad for pickleball.
I'm just saying, yeah, like Iget, I'm getting all this
benefit from a new sport, a newgame, a new competition,
(30:27):
something that with new peoplenew people, new people
themselves.
Yeah, also like going from heavyteam sport to a more single
person sport, or just maybe oneother person.
Yeah, um, I'm finding it reallyrewarding and really fun for
reasons other than why I playultimate yeah, that's beautiful
(30:49):
and that's taken just kind offorcing myself into, yeah, that
environmental shift well, Ithink.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I think you continue to say that because you know
yourself well enough that youneed to sometimes force change
in yourself back up and install.
I would say mine looked alittle different because once
again, I had to have a big eventhappen in my life for me to
stop focus on running, and thatwas the inability to run.
(31:15):
And then, all of a sudden, Iinvested even more energy into
bodybuilding.
And how much I lovedbodybuilding, you know, or I
really actually found a love for.
I know this sounds crazy.
There are workout classes, guys.
They are workout classes forpole dancing and if you have
(31:35):
upper body strength.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Are they workout classes there?
No, they are.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
They are, and if you have upper body strength and
mobility because you should be agymnast, I just excel at it.
Naturally I wasn't sure, I wasa little hesitant, not really my
environment choice, because youare allowed to wear just kind
of skimpy environment clothes inthis environment, but also they
(32:01):
serve a purpose.
You need your skin on the pole.
There's like a lot of it's avery vulnerable setting it
really much is, and so I was alittle worried.
But then I took to it naturally, and I never really thought
that I would enjoy something asmuch as I enjoyed running, but
it fulfilled something in me aphysical activity that I could
do and made me feel confidentand made me feel strong that I
(32:24):
was able to do these things.
And so, again, I had to beplaced in a position where I had
to remove an activity from mylife because of inability to do
it.
But I definitely wouldencourage people to be more
aware and not wait till themoments like I've had to have in
life Sounds like I'm verystubborn at this point.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
In that case, guys, I think we're wrapping.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, I think we're wrapping up.
You know, I think you'velearned all you need to know
today.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Well, you know, and I think because we started the
episode, we started our firstlike official video episode
actually talking about ourpodcast and the steps that we
need to take, and we're kind ofending it thinking that you know
how the environments change andchange how you do certain
things and how that can affectyour ability to be consistent
(33:14):
and hopefully for the better,right Right, your ability to be
consistent and hopefully for forthe better, right right, so
that you can continue to findthose next little evolutionary
steps, so you can continue toclimb your mountain and actually
make progress and the thingsthat you want to make progress,
and especially in regards toyour health and wellness.
And like I think about it andwe've gone from y'all haven't
seen it, but recording in alittle tiny conference room with
(33:36):
a curtain up, yes, uh, yes youknow, antagonistically trying to
win over an argument with eachother, to sitting in this really
awesome lounge yeah just havinga really good conversation
about how we can all be betterand do better and feel better in
(33:57):
our lives, and, you know, Ithink that that's in and of
itself.
Us being in here is a beautifulthing and wonderful yeah it's
very rewarding.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
So go find your rewards, guys.
Hopefully this podcast hashelped you kind of sit with
yourself, figure out theevolution of change and where
your life has been, where it'sat, and where it's headed.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Thanks for joining us .
We'll see you in the next one.
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