May 25, 2025 • 28 mins
This week, Judy Tapken shares her powerful journey of coming to faith through prayer and how it led her to facilitate a vibrant Monday morning prayer group at church. She reveals how prayer has transformed not only individual lives but also created a tightly-knit community that supports one another through life's challenges.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
What's up, lifehouse fam?
Welcome back to the Life Talkpodcast.
My name is Jarvis and today Iam joined with our co-host, nate
Nate.
What up, man?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
What's going on today ?
Glad to be back, yeah, it'sgood to have you back.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
And then we're also joined with a very special guest
, Judy.
Judy, how you doing?
I'm doing great.
Happy to be back.
Yeah, it's good to have youback.
And then we're also joined witha very special guest, Judy.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Judy, how are you doing?
I'm doing great.
Happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
We're very glad to have you and so it's a pleasure
and an honor, and so we're justglad to be able to talk about
prayer.
We'll continue that.
Just as you guys have known,we're walking through the
Faithfully Different series inour church in the month of May
specifically for prayer, and soJudy leads our Monday morning
prayer group here at the church,and so we just figured who else
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better right To to be able totalk about praying and
specifically we'll kind of talkabout later about praying in
community, right With oneanother, with you know, family,
and being able to just talkthrough that.
And so we just see the examplethat you are and that you set
for prayer in that in that way,and so we're glad to have you on
.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
It's good to be here.
And so Life, talk, family.
Like Jarvis said, may is amonth, we are talking about
prayer and you mentioned reallywanted to have Judy on, because
I think those who don't knowJudy Tapkin, she is so quiet and
a lot of people don't know her.
So, judy, maybe just share alittle bit of your story, how
you came to briefly know theLord, and just a little bit
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about yourself, because you doso much around here but I think
a lot of people probably don'tknow it.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Okay, well, I came to the Lord in my early 40s, late
30s, early 40s, during a verydifficult trial in my life,
through a marriage thatunfortunately ended in divorce.
But the Lord had a hold of meand I actually had a sister that
would call me and tell me howmuch Jesus loves me and I needed
that so much.
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And so God helped me to get toa small community church where I
came to know Him, where I wassaved and eventually baptized,
and it's been a journey fromthere.
My prayer experiences began inanother church in Jersey where
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the Lord was teaching me how topray.
It started in one environmentand it just grew.
I remember listening to otherwomen praying and thinking I
would like to pray like that.
And the Lord just begins tobuild your prayer life.
It's not one event, it's overtime.
So that's kind of how he hasdeveloped that desire in my
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heart for prayer.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
So that seems like it was later in life, right?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
About the age range.
How old were you in that timeperiod?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Well, in my late 30s to my early 40s.
Okay, wow.
Before I came to the Lord.
I did not grow up in a— I grewup in a loving home, but not a
Christian home and I didn't knowthat I needed the Lord.
Wow, and it was through.
As I said, a sister of mine.
She's home with the Lord now,but she would just tell me Jesus
loved me.
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A sister of mine and she's homewith the Lord now, but she
would just tell me Jesus, loveme because she knew I needed
that I needed that foundationright there.
Yeah, wow, because when youdon't grow up knowing the Lord,
you don't know His love.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
And that's where that foundation needed to be built
first, and that's how the Lordused that, yeah.
Awesome.
So coming to know the Lord isgreat.
Maybe talk to us a little bit.
You know how you really cameinto seeing the power of prayer,
you know.
I know you shared a little bitwhen we were pre, before we jump
on the mics.
You know just the impact ofsome individuals in your life
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and events and how just seeingprayer, you know, build in your
life and become so important.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Well, I go back to my other church because that's
where it started and I went on acouple of missions trips and
was around other people praying.
And it's when you're aroundother people praying that you
see that desire and that needfor it.
And I remember being at anevent for some women and she's a
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dear friend of mine now and shewas praying.
I thought, wow, her prayerlanguage is so beautiful.
And I remember the first time Iprayed it was shaking hands.
It was an experience that I hadto grow into.
But as I began to pray I wantedto pray more.
I began to see the deep needthat I had for prayer through
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life experiences and my prayerlife began to develop there and
I think I shared with you that Iwas growing in prayer and one
of my pastors would ask me topray corporately at times.
And it's corporately but you'rejust praying to the Lord.
You might be in a group, butit's just you and the Lord when
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you're praying.
And that's how that began todevelop there.
And when I came here, there wasa more intensity for prayer.
I felt even more, and I don'trecall when that started, but I
started to go to prayer timesthat Tammy would have and
through that time she haddeveloped was trying to develop
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a Monday a group for during theweek, for people to meet and she
had asked me over time, would Iconsider facilitating that?
And I said I would love to, butI didn't know what I was doing,
you know.
so the teacher, had to teach mebasically and he's still
teaching me, trust me, and sothrough that we put out an
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invitation.
A lot of ladies came out andthen that we did a little bit
because they had other areasthat God was calling them.
And it is like Jesus has calledthem one by one over this time.
One will come in from onedirection, one comes in from
another direction and it hasjust grown.
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The Lord has grown it.
It's not anything that I'mdoing, it's just as a gift he's
allowed me to have to do that,facilitating.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
So that's kind of where we are now yeah, and I
think story I heard one time forcharles spurgeon I think.
I think jarvis brought upspurgeon on previous episode,
but breathing in and breathingout with prayer, so keeping that
theme, I think there werepeople went to visit his church
and they were asking him youknow, like, why is your church
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so amazingly, you know,successful, and things like that
.
And he said well, well, come on.
And he took him down to thebasement or you know wherever
there was, and they had a roomand it was just people praying
and he's like this is the engineof the church, and so I just
want to give credit.
I think your group for thosewho don't know, Judy gathers
with anywhere from 10 to 20ladies on Monday mornings
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praying for the church.
You guys just spend literally afew hours and I know you were
sharing just the communicationyou all have.
So maybe you kind of talk abouthow that got going.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Maybe the impact you've seen you know, either in
your previous church or here atLifehouse, just how you've seen
that grow, having that communityof prayer, yeah, Sure, when the
women come and they have comesporadically through the years
as God has brought them we sitdown and there's always a little
fellowship time because we needthat before we get into deep
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prayer.
And then we do the Acts prayerand our reason that we're there
is to pray for the needs of ourchurch.
That's our specific reason togather each week and we have a
list that's brought together andis used just to work off of
that.
But then the Lord takes overand we take turns.
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One woman will lead anadoration and we go to a quiet
time of confession.
One of the ladies will dothanksgiving, leading us into
supplication, and they just,who's ever asked, they're always
willing to do that and then wejust as we go around the room.
It's like a pop-up prayer kindof thing.
So as we want to pray, they canpray five times or they can
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pray once, but their hearts pourout and the love that we have
in that room for this church andfor our pastor and his family
and you think of all thedifferent wonderful ways in
which we pray for all kinds ofsometimes it's events get really
covered big time, or we will bejust doing a missionary that
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week, you know.
So it flows in different ways.
I allow the Lord to do it.
You know it's wonderful to havea prayer list, but the Lord
carries that.
But the foundation is to prayfor the needs of our church
weekly and it just.
The hearts grow in the love ofthrough prayer for our church
and for our pastor and hisfamily, as I said, and for our
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worship team and all thedifferent areas.
There's so many areas that needprayer within the church family
here.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, I mean I would say we definitely can feel it
right Like being on staff, bothme and Nate.
I mean we have the blessing tosee you guys in here every
Monday and I would say for me,just even seeing you on Monday
mornings super encouraging, liketo know that, knowing that
that's your primary goal rightis to pray for the needs of the
church and, like you said, youlift up other things that arise
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right, you are bearing not justthe church but you're bearing
the needs of the people in thatroom.
But just knowing, right thatthere is a group of ladies, just
people in general right, thatare committed to seeking God on
behalf of our church, on behalfof our leadership, on behalf of
the health and the just work ofGod in and through the church,
is super encouraging.
I'm blessed every week when Isee you guys in here and so I'm
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super thankful for you guys.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Well, that's encouraging to us and that door
shuts.
That's what we're doing.
This is a prayer and everybodyprays a little differently.
That door shuts.
You know that's what we'redoing.
This is a prayer and you knoweverybody prays a little
differently.
And you know, sometimes womenwill come in for the first few
times and they feel like, oh, Ican't pray out loud, but over
time, as they do, they just meldinto this group.
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And yeah, and there have beentimes we've had to stop if
someone's having a really hardday and we may need to stop and
stand over her and pray over her, because we don't want to keep
going on.
If someone is suffering yeah sothat occurs, um, um.
I was telling nate too.
We we take opportunities whereso we can pray for each other,
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uh, where, if it's a labor dayor memorial day, there's little
holidays and we will meet at oneanother's homes and that's time
for us to pray for each other,because that bonds us and we
need that, and so we really dolove that time.
We'll have lunch together,we'll fellowship, and then we
pray for one another.
And that happens sporadicallythroughout the year and special
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events like today.
We were out doing a prayer walktoday for VBF and that gives us
opportunity to be out there ingroups praying for the specific
needs of VBS, which there's alot, and my friend Ann takes
care of that.
She sets that all up, so that'sa nice different thing for us
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to do too.
So for me, I love that the Lordkeeps us fresh, because we
don't want to be redundant, wedon't want to just be sitting
there and doing the business ofprayer like we're ducks in a row
.
We're there to pray and so Ilove that the Lord keeps it
fresh all the time.
I was telling it also that oneof our ladies, angela all the
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time I was telling it also thatone of our ladies, angela, saw
that we have so many that wantto share music and teachings and
things like that.
So we have one side of our textthread it's called Signal Group
for prayer only, and then shedeveloped a Koinonia group so
that women can share and we allbenefit from that because,
throughout the week.
We're staying in touch and todayI shared a song.
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Somebody might share a teaching, so that's been a pouring out
of that also, that kind ofbirthed out of just meeting on
Mondays.
So we're not just women comingto meet, we have bonded and
we're friendships and we knowwe're there for one another and
for the needs of our church.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, one thing you mentioned maybe you can dig into
a little bit people whostruggle to pray in a group.
You know that's a pretty commonthing.
I know even.
You know meet people one-on-oneand even one-on-one like I
don't want to pray.
You know you pray Like I.
Just so how have you seen that?
You know people come whostruggle with that.
You know people come andstruggle with that.
You know kind of the Lordmoving.
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You know people maybe dostruggle to pray in a group.
You know what would kind ofyour exhortation to them be?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Well, I think I shared this with her.
We had one gal that I wassitting with her to quip and I'd
sat a couple few weeks with herand I just felt led to invite
her and she said I can't prayout loud, I can't pray out loud,
I can't pray out loud.
I said, well, just come.
And she came and she was quiet.
I don't know how many weeks,but after a bit of time she
started to open her mouth andthis beautiful prayer came out.
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She didn't even know and I justloved to hear her pray.
And we have had one lady in ourgroup she likes to bring
scripture with her and We've hadone lady in our group she likes
to bring scripture with her andas she prays she reads the
scripture and prays for thatperson or that group or whatever
it is.
We've had a few ladies thatdidn't feel like they could pray
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out loud.
So I said, laura, I don't knowwhat to do.
You got to show me what to dohere, and so the three of us met
and I knew they would pray outloud with me.
They were comfortable with that, that.
So we did that for a few weeksand then I brought one of our
ladies from the prayer group in,and then another couple weeks I
brought another lady in.
So they learned to just praywith a few ladies first and
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never any pressure.
There's never any pressure.
So when they come back to beingin the prayer group, you know
they might be quiet for a littlebit longer, but all of a sudden
, sudden they begin to feel likethey have something they want
to pray and it's just beautiful.
So I would never want anyone tofeel like, oh, I can't pray, so
I can't go.
I would never want anyone tofeel like that.
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If they felt that the Lord wascalling them to come and join us
, I would welcome that, becausewe're all here to be there for
one another.
It's exciting really, if youthink about it.
You know they step out in faithand they come and they find out
.
God just blesses them for theirdesire to be faithful.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, I mean, I feel like you see that often.
Right, like you said, you're inprayer, right, you're communing
with God, right, and you'repraying not to the other people
around you, right, but like withGod.
Right, and you're praying notto the other people around you,
right, but you're like you said,you're praying to God, but yet
God uses those moments of prayerand of you know, the growth in
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our heart and just our trust anddependence and all the things
that we're acknowledging aboutGod and to God, and all of those
things to bless other people.
Right, like you said, you wereblessed by that lady's prayer,
even though she felt like, oh,my prayer, this isn't any good,
no one cares, but you're sayingthat doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Well, that's a lie of the enemy, exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
We don't need it to be this polished super.
You got a doctorate degree inprayer in order for you to come
pray with us.
We just want to hear the burdenon your heart and you to
communicate that with God, and Ithink that's one of the things
that I see within that prayergroup with the ladies is these
are just ladies, women who areseeking to just honor God in
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their prayers, no matter what itsounds like, no matter what it
looks like, but as they seek tohonor and honor God in their
prayers, like God is beingglorified, and so I think that's
why it is.
I mean, there's, that place ispacked out, if you're ever here
on a.
Monday.
If you're listening, if you'reever here on a Monday, around 10
AM, 10 to 12 ish uh, come, come, check out the room that's
packed out, and I think it's socontagious because they're
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seeing the goodness of Godthrough the communication of the
prayer, right, uh, throughprayer.
I've used that, like you said,uh, we, when we talked about
god's word, that charlesspurgeon quote of uh, charles
spurgeon was asked you knowwhat's more important, reading
the bible or praying?
And he says back to the personwell, what's more important?
Breathing in or breathing out?
To signal, to show, right, like, they're both just as important
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.
We need to be doing them bothin order to thrive.
Um, and, and yeah, I'm just so,uh, encouraged and really like,
uh, motivated to pray more whenI see you guys praying right and
so and I think that's thereality of what prayer does is
it shows like, and we can, I too, right, whoever it is that
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joins or walks by or whatever,it is like I too have access
boldly to God through prayer andthrough these things.
And so what is it kind of like,tell me about?
I don't want to say just thefeeling of the room, but, as
you're bearing each other'sburdens, what does that look
like for you?
Speaker 4 (16:46):
You know, when we're in there and we start praying,
it's like you leave everythingelse behind.
The Lord, the Holy Spirit,meets us there in great ways.
And as he does.
It's not one person prayingover another, it's not any of
that.
It's just the buildup in theirheart and they release it
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through prayer because it's away to praise God, to honor him,
to give Him glory.
And a lot of times somebodywill have something they want to
share when they come in,something they've read that
morning.
We let them read that, becausethat often is the adoration that
leads us into prayer.
So, as we're praying, I justsense that the Lord carries it.
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If one person doesn't pray thatday, sense that the Lord
carries it.
You know, if one person doesn'tpray that day, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Now I might reach out to them.
Make sure they're okay, youknow, because there might be
something, especially if they'recontinued.
They normally do, yeah, Right.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
And there might be a burden that we're not realizing.
And again, like I said, ifsomeone is praying and they
start crying, you know when wefinish we might need to come
around her.
It's just the Lord.
It's just the Lord, it's theHoly Spirit meets us there and
in unique ways, and he justpours out through the women that
are there, and so that's why Ithink it is contagious, because
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there's nobody prompted to praya certain way.
You know, you just pray the waythe Lord allows you to pray,
and so it just has grown into, Ibelieve, elevating the Lord.
We come in not withexpectations, but allowing the
Holy Spirit to lead us and Godis glorified through that, and
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every woman, I think, begins tofeel like they can be a part of
that.
So you know, it's just a greatwork of the Lord.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, do you feel like people and I feel like it's
an obvious answer, but I guessyou could kind of talk about it
maybe a little bit more Do youfeel like people are missing out
on the benefit of prayer andcommunity and even just by
yourself?
Do you feel like that's apresent thing that people are
missing out on?
Speaker 4 (18:58):
I do, and I'll give you an example through that we
have bonded strongly all of us.
Now, if I don't think to reachout to someone in that group,
someone else will do it.
So we're always, always bondingtogether.
There's a friendship.
I call them my friends and if Ihave a prayer request, that's
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generally where I go first.
It's only that girls can prayfor me.
Now many know that right nowwe're in a journey with my
daughter, my granddaughter, andshe has a brain tumor.
These women have sustained mein prayer.
They have helped me so much andthey just I know they're
praying and they might offer upa song or a teaching that's
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directed right to what I need tohear right now and I needed to.
I wasn't there for a few weeks.
I came back today.
It was like I hadn't I've beengone, but I felt so at home
again with them.
So no one ever need fear thatthey, they wouldn't, they
wouldn't be accepted or thatthey couldn't do it.
That's just a lie of the enemyand we have built strong
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fellowships.
One gal told me I could shareher story, so I'll do that, rita
.
She came in one day this wasseveral months ago and I met her
for the first time and she satand prayed with us and she
finished.
She said I was actuallysupposed to be in the discovery
class next door.
I thought this was the discoveryclass.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
God had a different purpose.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
God had a different purpose and she said but I'm
coming back, and she did, andshe's with us and she was here
today.
So you know, god works in hisways and he brings each woman as
he brings them, and we havejust built great friendships
through this and I treasure eachand every one of them.
Each one is truly a sweetblessing and I don't oh my
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goodness, I mean, they're there.
I can't imagine not being there.
Yeah.
So I don't think anybody, Idon't want anybody ever feel
like they would miss out with itis such a strong community that
would always be accepted tocome in.
You know, we we love more tocome in.
But be prepared because you'regoing to be part of a community
that prays together, seeks Godtogether, worships together and
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lives life together basically.
So it's a great blessing.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I think summarizing if you're not praying in
community you're missing out.
You're missing out, that'sexactly right Our connect groups
.
You know, that's why God makesus to walk together, that if we
don't have people we're prayingwith and for, it just draws our
hearts together.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Well, listen, you need a sister or brother praying
with you period.
Things go on, you know, and weall and we've seen it in that
room all kinds of differentthings are going on, and they
know that we're going to pray.
So if a person just sticks tothemselves and prays, that's
fine.
But why would you not wantcommunity to pray with you?
We need that support system.
God built us to need that.
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He didn't build us to be anisland, he built us to be in
community.
So I would definitely say,whether it's through connect
groups, whether it's through theprayer group, find your place,
because it's a lonely road ifyou don't.
And God calls us to be incommunity to help one another,
to be there for one another, forhim to be glorified in our
times together.
And all of that happens withincommunity.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, I was talking to a young adult recently and
they were sounds off topic, butit's not.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
they're asking about going somewhere with this.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
They were asking about dating.
And just in the aspect ofdating, you know, is it okay if
I read the Bible with mygirlfriend?
Is it okay if I, you know, praywith my girlfriend?
And I told him like I would bevery careful, right, why the
intimacy that it bears is farmore than you need to need to
bear in dating.
And so, like, when you hear youknow people going through
marriage struggles and you knowpastors or people around them
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ask, why are you, are youpraying with your wife?
Like, are you?
One of the reasons is becauseit's so intimate and it bonds
one another together that, like,that's needed in order to have
a deep, meaningful relationship.
And so you have a deep,meaningful relationship with
these ladies because you'reopening your heart in prayer and
honesty and all of the things,and you're gaining that together
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and it's so important.
So, yeah, again, to summarize,if you're not praying in
community, you're missing out.
You're missing out on thebenefit of God.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Yeah, because you know what In that room and I can
speak for that, we'reparticularly talking about
prayer group there has been manythings that these women may not
take anywhere else, but theyknow they can take it there and
we'll pray for them wheneverthey need it, but it's not out
there because they need it tostay there and that's what that
community does, and the churchneeds it, because we're a big
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church.
So you have to find your place,a community where you can be
with people that will pray withyou and for you and vice versa,
and live life together.
So, yeah, you know this.
This is a community withinitself and the women love one
another.
Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
And I think one thing I do that you kind of mentioned
earlier, that I do want to makesure everybody who's listening
gets, is everybody's prayer isbeautiful and everybody's prayer
is unique.
And I think you alreadymentioned like it's a big lie of
Satan that you know like myprayers are inadequate or I need
to pray like somebody else, andso I think, especially being in
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the group, you can probablyshare.
you know people have overcomeand you know you shared the
example of the most beautifulprayers come from people who
don't expect it.
So I think people need to knowthat and maybe just encourage
you.
Know any other examples youhave where you've seen that,
like your prayer is a fragrantaroma to the Lord, just doing it
in your heart posture.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
That's right.
You know, praying out loud forthe first time it can be nervous
I remember myself but I wouldencourage any woman that wants
to come to that to please come.
We're not in a competitionthere, we're just praying
together and everybody, whenthey pray every woman that prays
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, it's different from the nextwoman, but it's so beautiful and
you know they might think thatthey don't play beautifully, but
they're not hearing them.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
We are.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
So if someone comes in and says well, I can't pray,
Well, come in and give us achance.
We'll help you.
God will work that out.
God, the Holy Spirit, is goingto help them.
He's the helper and we're justthere to be a support system to
them.
So it's really really neat whenyou watch them growing in their
prayer life, when they findthat they can pray out loud and
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they can share their heart forthe Lord through prayer with
other women, can share theirheart for the Lord through
prayer with other women.
So no one needs to feelintimidated because we're all
just friends praying together,basically, and the community
that they will have from thatwill far outweigh any fear that
they have coming into it.
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And sometimes they might justhave to listen for a few times.
That's fine, but you knowthey're going.
The Lord's not going to letthem sit there too long.
He's going to let them.
You know they're going to wantto pray and I think that that's
where you know we can talk aboutthat.
You know being afraid and beinga part of something they truly
can be.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
It's not an exclusive group, it's for whoever wants
to come.
Yeah, and so that meets Mondaymornings in conference room two
of the prayer room.
There's a sign, you know.
If you're looking for it, it'sdown that back hallway there's a
sign that says prayer room.
It starts at 10 am, correct,and goes to about 12, right,
yeah, and again, like you said,there's a time of fellowship and
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to kind of bond in those areasand then kind of walking through
the prayer time.
And so if you are listening andyou want to get involved and
join, we would really encourage,as Judy had said, like do it.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Just give them a chance.
Come on out, give them a chance.
Yeah, can I say one last?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
thing, of course.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
When we all meet.
We haven't seen each other in aweek.
Now we're women.
We can get really chatty.
So I have to give them thattime just to bond through just
talking.
So if you come in and just seeus talking, you're going to feel
at home anyway, because you'rewith a bunch of women and we
like to chat.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, and we have talked about a lot of the ladies
, but we do want to encouragethe men too.
We have connect groups,discipleship Like man.
This ain't just about theladies.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I think the sad thing is the ladies put us to shame.
So, like guys, you should bepraying in a group, whether it's
three, four, five guys.
Like men, you need to be.
That's right.
If there's one message we wanteverybody to get like pray
together as God's people.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I'd love to see a men's group of prayer.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, like we should have prayer room one and room
two.
We need some guys out there tostep up, you know.
So the ladies are carrying theprayer.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
I think that's great because you know men need men to
pray alongside them.
Their trials are our trials.
Just it's guys and girls.
So, yeah, I would encourageanybody to be within a group,
whether it's, you know, a Biblestudy or connect group or
whatever it is where you aredrawn into prayer, because we
really need that.
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God made us to pray togetherand that's how we support one
another and we praise him.
We glorified him through prayer.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, that's right.
Well, judy, we're so glad thatyou could join us today.
We're thankful for all the workthat you do, laboring in prayer
for us right, for our church,for our families, for the church
families in general, and just.
It truly is an example, and sowe're so glad that you would
join us today and just share alittle bit about what God's
doing in that room over there.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Well, thank you so much for having me.
It's a blessing to be here.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
We look forward to having you on again.
All right, okay.
What's up, lifehouse fam?
Welcome back to the Life Talkpodcast.
My name is Jarvis and today Iam joined with our co-host, nate
Nate.
What up, man?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
What's going on today ?
Glad to be back, yeah, it'sgood to have you back.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
And then we're also joined with a very special guest
, Judy.
Judy, how you doing?
I'm doing great.
Happy to be back.
Yeah, it's good to have youback.
And then we're also joined witha very special guest, Judy.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Judy, how are you doing?
I'm doing great.
Happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
We're very glad to have you and so it's a pleasure
and an honor, and so we're justglad to be able to talk about
prayer.
We'll continue that.
Just as you guys have known,we're walking through the
Faithfully Different series inour church in the month of May
specifically for prayer, and soJudy leads our Monday morning
prayer group here at the church,and so we just figured who else
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better right To to be able totalk about praying and
specifically we'll kind of talkabout later about praying in
community, right With oneanother, with you know, family,
and being able to just talkthrough that.
And so we just see the examplethat you are and that you set
for prayer in that in that way,and so we're glad to have you on
.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
It's good to be here.
And so Life, talk, family.
Like Jarvis said, may is amonth, we are talking about
prayer and you mentioned reallywanted to have Judy on, because
I think those who don't knowJudy Tapkin, she is so quiet and
a lot of people don't know her.
So, judy, maybe just share alittle bit of your story, how
you came to briefly know theLord, and just a little bit
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about yourself, because you doso much around here but I think
a lot of people probably don'tknow it.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Okay, well, I came to the Lord in my early 40s, late
30s, early 40s, during a verydifficult trial in my life,
through a marriage thatunfortunately ended in divorce.
But the Lord had a hold of meand I actually had a sister that
would call me and tell me howmuch Jesus loves me and I needed
that so much.
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And so God helped me to get toa small community church where I
came to know Him, where I wassaved and eventually baptized,
and it's been a journey fromthere.
My prayer experiences began inanother church in Jersey where
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the Lord was teaching me how topray.
It started in one environmentand it just grew.
I remember listening to otherwomen praying and thinking I
would like to pray like that.
And the Lord just begins tobuild your prayer life.
It's not one event, it's overtime.
So that's kind of how he hasdeveloped that desire in my
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heart for prayer.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
So that seems like it was later in life, right?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
About the age range.
How old were you in that timeperiod?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Well, in my late 30s to my early 40s.
Okay, wow.
Before I came to the Lord.
I did not grow up in a— I grewup in a loving home, but not a
Christian home and I didn't knowthat I needed the Lord.
Wow, and it was through.
As I said, a sister of mine.
She's home with the Lord now,but she would just tell me Jesus
loved me.
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A sister of mine and she's homewith the Lord now, but she
would just tell me Jesus, loveme because she knew I needed
that I needed that foundationright there.
Yeah, wow, because when youdon't grow up knowing the Lord,
you don't know His love.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
And that's where that foundation needed to be built
first, and that's how the Lordused that, yeah.
Awesome.
So coming to know the Lord isgreat.
Maybe talk to us a little bit.
You know how you really cameinto seeing the power of prayer,
you know.
I know you shared a little bitwhen we were pre, before we jump
on the mics.
You know just the impact ofsome individuals in your life
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and events and how just seeingprayer, you know, build in your
life and become so important.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Well, I go back to my other church because that's
where it started and I went on acouple of missions trips and
was around other people praying.
And it's when you're aroundother people praying that you
see that desire and that needfor it.
And I remember being at anevent for some women and she's a
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dear friend of mine now and shewas praying.
I thought, wow, her prayerlanguage is so beautiful.
And I remember the first time Iprayed it was shaking hands.
It was an experience that I hadto grow into.
But as I began to pray I wantedto pray more.
I began to see the deep needthat I had for prayer through
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life experiences and my prayerlife began to develop there and
I think I shared with you that Iwas growing in prayer and one
of my pastors would ask me topray corporately at times.
And it's corporately but you'rejust praying to the Lord.
You might be in a group, butit's just you and the Lord when
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you're praying.
And that's how that began todevelop there.
And when I came here, there wasa more intensity for prayer.
I felt even more, and I don'trecall when that started, but I
started to go to prayer timesthat Tammy would have and
through that time she haddeveloped was trying to develop
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a Monday a group for during theweek, for people to meet and she
had asked me over time, would Iconsider facilitating that?
And I said I would love to, butI didn't know what I was doing,
you know.
so the teacher, had to teach mebasically and he's still
teaching me, trust me, and sothrough that we put out an
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invitation.
A lot of ladies came out andthen that we did a little bit
because they had other areasthat God was calling them.
And it is like Jesus has calledthem one by one over this time.
One will come in from onedirection, one comes in from
another direction and it hasjust grown.
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The Lord has grown it.
It's not anything that I'mdoing, it's just as a gift he's
allowed me to have to do that,facilitating.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
So that's kind of where we are now yeah, and I
think story I heard one time forcharles spurgeon I think.
I think jarvis brought upspurgeon on previous episode,
but breathing in and breathingout with prayer, so keeping that
theme, I think there werepeople went to visit his church
and they were asking him youknow, like, why is your church
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so amazingly, you know,successful, and things like that
.
And he said well, well, come on.
And he took him down to thebasement or you know wherever
there was, and they had a roomand it was just people praying
and he's like this is the engineof the church, and so I just
want to give credit.
I think your group for thosewho don't know, Judy gathers
with anywhere from 10 to 20ladies on Monday mornings
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praying for the church.
You guys just spend literally afew hours and I know you were
sharing just the communicationyou all have.
So maybe you kind of talk abouthow that got going.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Maybe the impact you've seen you know, either in
your previous church or here atLifehouse, just how you've seen
that grow, having that communityof prayer, yeah, Sure, when the
women come and they have comesporadically through the years
as God has brought them we sitdown and there's always a little
fellowship time because we needthat before we get into deep
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prayer.
And then we do the Acts prayerand our reason that we're there
is to pray for the needs of ourchurch.
That's our specific reason togather each week and we have a
list that's brought together andis used just to work off of
that.
But then the Lord takes overand we take turns.
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One woman will lead anadoration and we go to a quiet
time of confession.
One of the ladies will dothanksgiving, leading us into
supplication, and they just,who's ever asked, they're always
willing to do that and then wejust as we go around the room.
It's like a pop-up prayer kindof thing.
So as we want to pray, they canpray five times or they can
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pray once, but their hearts pourout and the love that we have
in that room for this church andfor our pastor and his family
and you think of all thedifferent wonderful ways in
which we pray for all kinds ofsometimes it's events get really
covered big time, or we will bejust doing a missionary that
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week, you know.
So it flows in different ways.
I allow the Lord to do it.
You know it's wonderful to havea prayer list, but the Lord
carries that.
But the foundation is to prayfor the needs of our church
weekly and it just.
The hearts grow in the love ofthrough prayer for our church
and for our pastor and hisfamily, as I said, and for our
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worship team and all thedifferent areas.
There's so many areas that needprayer within the church family
here.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, I mean I would say we definitely can feel it
right Like being on staff, bothme and Nate.
I mean we have the blessing tosee you guys in here every
Monday and I would say for me,just even seeing you on Monday
mornings super encouraging, liketo know that, knowing that
that's your primary goal rightis to pray for the needs of the
church and, like you said, youlift up other things that arise
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right, you are bearing not justthe church but you're bearing
the needs of the people in thatroom.
But just knowing, right thatthere is a group of ladies, just
people in general right, thatare committed to seeking God on
behalf of our church, on behalfof our leadership, on behalf of
the health and the just work ofGod in and through the church,
is super encouraging.
I'm blessed every week when Isee you guys in here and so I'm
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super thankful for you guys.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Well, that's encouraging to us and that door
shuts.
That's what we're doing.
This is a prayer and everybodyprays a little differently.
That door shuts.
You know that's what we'redoing.
This is a prayer and you knoweverybody prays a little
differently.
And you know, sometimes womenwill come in for the first few
times and they feel like, oh, Ican't pray out loud, but over
time, as they do, they just meldinto this group.
(10:06):
And yeah, and there have beentimes we've had to stop if
someone's having a really hardday and we may need to stop and
stand over her and pray over her, because we don't want to keep
going on.
If someone is suffering yeah sothat occurs, um, um.
I was telling nate too.
We we take opportunities whereso we can pray for each other,
(10:27):
uh, where, if it's a labor dayor memorial day, there's little
holidays and we will meet at oneanother's homes and that's time
for us to pray for each other,because that bonds us and we
need that, and so we really dolove that time.
We'll have lunch together,we'll fellowship, and then we
pray for one another.
And that happens sporadicallythroughout the year and special
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events like today.
We were out doing a prayer walktoday for VBF and that gives us
opportunity to be out there ingroups praying for the specific
needs of VBS, which there's alot, and my friend Ann takes
care of that.
She sets that all up, so that'sa nice different thing for us
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to do too.
So for me, I love that the Lordkeeps us fresh, because we
don't want to be redundant, wedon't want to just be sitting
there and doing the business ofprayer like we're ducks in a row
.
We're there to pray and so Ilove that the Lord keeps it
fresh all the time.
I was telling it also that oneof our ladies, angela all the
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time I was telling it also thatone of our ladies, angela, saw
that we have so many that wantto share music and teachings and
things like that.
So we have one side of our textthread it's called Signal Group
for prayer only, and then shedeveloped a Koinonia group so
that women can share and we allbenefit from that because,
throughout the week.
We're staying in touch and todayI shared a song.
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Somebody might share a teaching, so that's been a pouring out
of that also, that kind ofbirthed out of just meeting on
Mondays.
So we're not just women comingto meet, we have bonded and
we're friendships and we knowwe're there for one another and
for the needs of our church.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, one thing you mentioned maybe you can dig into
a little bit people whostruggle to pray in a group.
You know that's a pretty commonthing.
I know even.
You know meet people one-on-oneand even one-on-one like I
don't want to pray.
You know you pray Like I.
Just so how have you seen that?
You know people come whostruggle with that.
You know people come andstruggle with that.
You know kind of the Lordmoving.
(12:32):
You know people maybe dostruggle to pray in a group.
You know what would kind ofyour exhortation to them be?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Well, I think I shared this with her.
We had one gal that I wassitting with her to quip and I'd
sat a couple few weeks with herand I just felt led to invite
her and she said I can't prayout loud, I can't pray out loud,
I can't pray out loud.
I said, well, just come.
And she came and she was quiet.
I don't know how many weeks,but after a bit of time she
started to open her mouth andthis beautiful prayer came out.
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She didn't even know and I justloved to hear her pray.
And we have had one lady in ourgroup she likes to bring
scripture with her and We've hadone lady in our group she likes
to bring scripture with her andas she prays she reads the
scripture and prays for thatperson or that group or whatever
it is.
We've had a few ladies thatdidn't feel like they could pray
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out loud.
So I said, laura, I don't knowwhat to do.
You got to show me what to dohere, and so the three of us met
and I knew they would pray outloud with me.
They were comfortable with that, that.
So we did that for a few weeksand then I brought one of our
ladies from the prayer group in,and then another couple weeks I
brought another lady in.
So they learned to just praywith a few ladies first and
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never any pressure.
There's never any pressure.
So when they come back to beingin the prayer group, you know
they might be quiet for a littlebit longer, but all of a sudden
, sudden they begin to feel likethey have something they want
to pray and it's just beautiful.
So I would never want anyone tofeel like, oh, I can't pray, so
I can't go.
I would never want anyone tofeel like that.
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If they felt that the Lord wascalling them to come and join us
, I would welcome that, becausewe're all here to be there for
one another.
It's exciting really, if youthink about it.
You know they step out in faithand they come and they find out
.
God just blesses them for theirdesire to be faithful.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, I mean, I feel like you see that often.
Right, like you said, you're inprayer, right, you're communing
with God, right, and you'repraying not to the other people
around you, right, but like withGod.
Right, and you're praying notto the other people around you,
right, but you're like you said,you're praying to God, but yet
God uses those moments of prayerand of you know, the growth in
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our heart and just our trust anddependence and all the things
that we're acknowledging aboutGod and to God, and all of those
things to bless other people.
Right, like you said, you wereblessed by that lady's prayer,
even though she felt like, oh,my prayer, this isn't any good,
no one cares, but you're sayingthat doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Well, that's a lie of the enemy, exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
We don't need it to be this polished super.
You got a doctorate degree inprayer in order for you to come
pray with us.
We just want to hear the burdenon your heart and you to
communicate that with God, and Ithink that's one of the things
that I see within that prayergroup with the ladies is these
are just ladies, women who areseeking to just honor God in
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their prayers, no matter what itsounds like, no matter what it
looks like, but as they seek tohonor and honor God in their
prayers, like God is beingglorified, and so I think that's
why it is.
I mean, there's, that place ispacked out, if you're ever here
on a.
Monday.
If you're listening, if you'reever here on a Monday, around 10
AM, 10 to 12 ish uh, come, come, check out the room that's
packed out, and I think it's socontagious because they're
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seeing the goodness of Godthrough the communication of the
prayer, right, uh, throughprayer.
I've used that, like you said,uh, we, when we talked about
god's word, that charlesspurgeon quote of uh, charles
spurgeon was asked you knowwhat's more important, reading
the bible or praying?
And he says back to the personwell, what's more important?
Breathing in or breathing out?
To signal, to show, right, like, they're both just as important
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.
We need to be doing them bothin order to thrive.
Um, and, and yeah, I'm just so,uh, encouraged and really like,
uh, motivated to pray more whenI see you guys praying right and
so and I think that's thereality of what prayer does is
it shows like, and we can, I too, right, whoever it is that
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joins or walks by or whatever,it is like I too have access
boldly to God through prayer andthrough these things.
And so what is it kind of like,tell me about?
I don't want to say just thefeeling of the room, but, as
you're bearing each other'sburdens, what does that look
like for you?
Speaker 4 (16:46):
You know, when we're in there and we start praying,
it's like you leave everythingelse behind.
The Lord, the Holy Spirit,meets us there in great ways.
And as he does.
It's not one person prayingover another, it's not any of
that.
It's just the buildup in theirheart and they release it
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through prayer because it's away to praise God, to honor him,
to give Him glory.
And a lot of times somebodywill have something they want to
share when they come in,something they've read that
morning.
We let them read that, becausethat often is the adoration that
leads us into prayer.
So, as we're praying, I justsense that the Lord carries it.
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If one person doesn't pray thatday, sense that the Lord
carries it.
You know, if one person doesn'tpray that day, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Now I might reach out to them.
Make sure they're okay, youknow, because there might be
something, especially if they'recontinued.
They normally do, yeah, Right.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
And there might be a burden that we're not realizing.
And again, like I said, ifsomeone is praying and they
start crying, you know when wefinish we might need to come
around her.
It's just the Lord.
It's just the Lord, it's theHoly Spirit meets us there and
in unique ways, and he justpours out through the women that
are there, and so that's why Ithink it is contagious, because
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there's nobody prompted to praya certain way.
You know, you just pray the waythe Lord allows you to pray,
and so it just has grown into, Ibelieve, elevating the Lord.
We come in not withexpectations, but allowing the
Holy Spirit to lead us and Godis glorified through that, and
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every woman, I think, begins tofeel like they can be a part of
that.
So you know, it's just a greatwork of the Lord.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, do you feel like people and I feel like it's
an obvious answer, but I guessyou could kind of talk about it
maybe a little bit more Do youfeel like people are missing out
on the benefit of prayer andcommunity and even just by
yourself?
Do you feel like that's apresent thing that people are
missing out on?
Speaker 4 (18:58):
I do, and I'll give you an example through that we
have bonded strongly all of us.
Now, if I don't think to reachout to someone in that group,
someone else will do it.
So we're always, always bondingtogether.
There's a friendship.
I call them my friends and if Ihave a prayer request, that's
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generally where I go first.
It's only that girls can prayfor me.
Now many know that right nowwe're in a journey with my
daughter, my granddaughter, andshe has a brain tumor.
These women have sustained mein prayer.
They have helped me so much andthey just I know they're
praying and they might offer upa song or a teaching that's
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directed right to what I need tohear right now and I needed to.
I wasn't there for a few weeks.
I came back today.
It was like I hadn't I've beengone, but I felt so at home
again with them.
So no one ever need fear thatthey, they wouldn't, they
wouldn't be accepted or thatthey couldn't do it.
That's just a lie of the enemyand we have built strong
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fellowships.
One gal told me I could shareher story, so I'll do that, rita
.
She came in one day this wasseveral months ago and I met her
for the first time and she satand prayed with us and she
finished.
She said I was actuallysupposed to be in the discovery
class next door.
I thought this was the discoveryclass.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
God had a different purpose.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
God had a different purpose and she said but I'm
coming back, and she did, andshe's with us and she was here
today.
So you know, god works in hisways and he brings each woman as
he brings them, and we havejust built great friendships
through this and I treasure eachand every one of them.
Each one is truly a sweetblessing and I don't oh my
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goodness, I mean, they're there.
I can't imagine not being there.
Yeah.
So I don't think anybody, Idon't want anybody ever feel
like they would miss out with itis such a strong community that
would always be accepted tocome in.
You know, we we love more tocome in.
But be prepared because you'regoing to be part of a community
that prays together, seeks Godtogether, worships together and
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lives life together basically.
So it's a great blessing.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I think summarizing if you're not praying in
community you're missing out.
You're missing out, that'sexactly right Our connect groups
.
You know, that's why God makesus to walk together, that if we
don't have people we're prayingwith and for, it just draws our
hearts together.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Well, listen, you need a sister or brother praying
with you period.
Things go on, you know, and weall and we've seen it in that
room all kinds of differentthings are going on, and they
know that we're going to pray.
So if a person just sticks tothemselves and prays, that's
fine.
But why would you not wantcommunity to pray with you?
We need that support system.
God built us to need that.
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He didn't build us to be anisland, he built us to be in
community.
So I would definitely say,whether it's through connect
groups, whether it's through theprayer group, find your place,
because it's a lonely road ifyou don't.
And God calls us to be incommunity to help one another,
to be there for one another, forhim to be glorified in our
times together.
And all of that happens withincommunity.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, I was talking to a young adult recently and
they were sounds off topic, butit's not.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
they're asking about going somewhere with this.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
They were asking about dating.
And just in the aspect ofdating, you know, is it okay if
I read the Bible with mygirlfriend?
Is it okay if I, you know, praywith my girlfriend?
And I told him like I would bevery careful, right, why the
intimacy that it bears is farmore than you need to need to
bear in dating.
And so, like, when you hear youknow people going through
marriage struggles and you knowpastors or people around them
(22:40):
ask, why are you, are youpraying with your wife?
Like, are you?
One of the reasons is becauseit's so intimate and it bonds
one another together that, like,that's needed in order to have
a deep, meaningful relationship.
And so you have a deep,meaningful relationship with
these ladies because you'reopening your heart in prayer and
honesty and all of the things,and you're gaining that together
(23:04):
and it's so important.
So, yeah, again, to summarize,if you're not praying in
community, you're missing out.
You're missing out on thebenefit of God.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Yeah, because you know what In that room and I can
speak for that, we'reparticularly talking about
prayer group there has been manythings that these women may not
take anywhere else, but theyknow they can take it there and
we'll pray for them wheneverthey need it, but it's not out
there because they need it tostay there and that's what that
community does, and the churchneeds it, because we're a big
(23:35):
church.
So you have to find your place,a community where you can be
with people that will pray withyou and for you and vice versa,
and live life together.
So, yeah, you know this.
This is a community withinitself and the women love one
another.
Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
And I think one thing I do that you kind of mentioned
earlier, that I do want to makesure everybody who's listening
gets, is everybody's prayer isbeautiful and everybody's prayer
is unique.
And I think you alreadymentioned like it's a big lie of
Satan that you know like myprayers are inadequate or I need
to pray like somebody else, andso I think, especially being in
(24:16):
the group, you can probablyshare.
you know people have overcomeand you know you shared the
example of the most beautifulprayers come from people who
don't expect it.
So I think people need to knowthat and maybe just encourage
you.
Know any other examples youhave where you've seen that,
like your prayer is a fragrantaroma to the Lord, just doing it
in your heart posture.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
That's right.
You know, praying out loud forthe first time it can be nervous
I remember myself but I wouldencourage any woman that wants
to come to that to please come.
We're not in a competitionthere, we're just praying
together and everybody, whenthey pray every woman that prays
(24:58):
, it's different from the nextwoman, but it's so beautiful and
you know they might think thatthey don't play beautifully, but
they're not hearing them.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
We are.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
So if someone comes in and says well, I can't pray,
Well, come in and give us achance.
We'll help you.
God will work that out.
God, the Holy Spirit, is goingto help them.
He's the helper and we're justthere to be a support system to
them.
So it's really really neat whenyou watch them growing in their
prayer life, when they findthat they can pray out loud and
(25:32):
they can share their heart forthe Lord through prayer with
other women, can share theirheart for the Lord through
prayer with other women.
So no one needs to feelintimidated because we're all
just friends praying together,basically, and the community
that they will have from thatwill far outweigh any fear that
they have coming into it.
(25:52):
And sometimes they might justhave to listen for a few times.
That's fine, but you knowthey're going.
The Lord's not going to letthem sit there too long.
He's going to let them.
You know they're going to wantto pray and I think that that's
where you know we can talk aboutthat.
You know being afraid and beinga part of something they truly
can be.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
It's not an exclusive group, it's for whoever wants
to come.
Yeah, and so that meets Mondaymornings in conference room two
of the prayer room.
There's a sign, you know.
If you're looking for it, it'sdown that back hallway there's a
sign that says prayer room.
It starts at 10 am, correct,and goes to about 12, right,
yeah, and again, like you said,there's a time of fellowship and
(26:38):
to kind of bond in those areasand then kind of walking through
the prayer time.
And so if you are listening andyou want to get involved and
join, we would really encourage,as Judy had said, like do it.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Just give them a chance.
Come on out, give them a chance.
Yeah, can I say one last?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
thing, of course.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
When we all meet.
We haven't seen each other in aweek.
Now we're women.
We can get really chatty.
So I have to give them thattime just to bond through just
talking.
So if you come in and just seeus talking, you're going to feel
at home anyway, because you'rewith a bunch of women and we
like to chat.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, and we have talked about a lot of the ladies
, but we do want to encouragethe men too.
We have connect groups,discipleship Like man.
This ain't just about theladies.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I think the sad thing is the ladies put us to shame.
So, like guys, you should bepraying in a group, whether it's
three, four, five guys.
Like men, you need to be.
That's right.
If there's one message we wanteverybody to get like pray
together as God's people.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I'd love to see a men's group of prayer.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, like we should have prayer room one and room
two.
We need some guys out there tostep up, you know.
So the ladies are carrying theprayer.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
I think that's great because you know men need men to
pray alongside them.
Their trials are our trials.
Just it's guys and girls.
So, yeah, I would encourageanybody to be within a group,
whether it's, you know, a Biblestudy or connect group or
whatever it is where you aredrawn into prayer, because we
really need that.
(28:02):
God made us to pray togetherand that's how we support one
another and we praise him.
We glorified him through prayer.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, that's right.
Well, judy, we're so glad thatyou could join us today.
We're thankful for all the workthat you do, laboring in prayer
for us right, for our church,for our families, for the church
families in general, and just.
It truly is an example, and sowe're so glad that you would
join us today and just share alittle bit about what God's
doing in that room over there.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Well, thank you so much for having me.
It's a blessing to be here.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
We look forward to having you on again.
All right, okay.
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