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SPEAKER_00 (00:04):
Two best friends
talking fast.
We're missing to our case, we'rehaving a blast.
Seeing these dreams, clicking onscreens, it was all bad.
Like whatever.
Never never never.
SPEAKER_04 (00:30):
Welcome to Like
Whatever, a podcast for, by, and
about Gen X.
I'm Nicole, and this is my BFFFHeather.
Hello.
Hello.
Hello.
So today or this week.
Yes.
Um, it's a very special week.
Yes.
It's our anniversary of thishere podcast.
SPEAKER_06 (00:50):
It is.
We're having mimosas.
We are.
You can't see because I don'thave video up.
SPEAKER_04 (00:57):
We have bagels and
cream cheese and mimosas, and we
toasted each other.
We did.
SPEAKER_06 (01:02):
Yep.
That's crazy, right?
SPEAKER_04 (01:05):
It's so crazy.
SPEAKER_06 (01:06):
She did not want to
do this.
SPEAKER_04 (01:08):
I did not.
SPEAKER_06 (01:09):
I made her.
SPEAKER_04 (01:11):
Well, the funny
thing is, neither of us are
sharers.
No, I feel like.
Um, and that was always my thingthinking about people doing
podcasts was like, you gottatalk way too much about yourself
when you do that.
Like, I am not sharing this withthe world.
But it just flows, and like Idon't regret anything I've said.
Yeah.
I don't regret sharing.
SPEAKER_06 (01:32):
It it's I get to see
you once a week.
It's that, and that is exactlywhen you're on all those pages
and they're like, oh, tell mewhy you do your podcast.
And I'm just usually like,because life is so busy all the
time.
And over the last 30 years, Imean, we've gone lengths of time
where we have yeah, haven't seeneach other.
I mean, we still talk to eachother, but this way we see each
(01:53):
other once a week.
Yep, we talk, it's and it's it'sjust fun.
SPEAKER_04 (01:57):
Yeah, and that's one
of the really cool things that's
come out of it for me, too, is II've known you 30 years, but
I've gotten to know you better.
Yeah, like I actually know whatgoes on in your life on a
day-to-day basis, and you know,kind of as to where usually
you're catching up or you'rebitching about your husband, not
you, but I mean that's whatgirlfriends do when they get
(02:18):
together.
You just blah blah blah, and butthis way we get to actually know
what's going on with each other,and that's been awesome because
we do we've always lived aboutan hour and a half, two hours
away from each other, so yeah,it's never been convenient to
just pop in and have lunch oranything, so yeah, it's been
schedules and yes, you know,kids and stuff, so yes, and this
(02:41):
is something we've committed to,and it's funny, I kind of had a
realization as we were talkingtherapy before we started this,
per our usual.
Um, but I'm in a phase right nowwhere I'm trying to kind of find
myself as a 52-year-old, um, andtrying to develop some habits
and some hobbies and stuff.
(03:02):
And uh for weeks I've beendiscussing this with my
therapist, and I really justlast week was like, duh, you
have a hobby, you have apodcast, and it is a little time
consuming, but I coulddefinitely invest more time into
it and try to make it strongerand bigger, which is my
commitment to our second year.
SPEAKER_06 (03:22):
Yeah, now that we
got the the year under the belt,
I feel like it's time we canyeah, it's time to I have a
little idea.
SPEAKER_04 (03:30):
We'll see.
I haven't actually looked at ityet, but um, I moved recently
and I found my diary from when Iwas probably 12, 13.
Oh wow.
Um, it's uh pink Hello Kittyplastic cover.
Um, and I use like the purplegel pens in it.
Um I have not opened it and reada word, but I'm thinking about
(03:54):
adding a Nicole's diary segmentto that to the podcast.
So yeah, I'll have to look andsee if there's actually anything
worthwhile in there.
SPEAKER_06 (04:03):
I bet it's I bet
it's all worthwhile.
SPEAKER_04 (04:05):
Uh yeah, I bet it's
gonna be a lot embarrassing.
But like I said, yeah.
I'm um, like I said, I'menjoying sharing stuff about
myself.
SPEAKER_06 (04:14):
I'm sure if we
rooted around in this door that
we block up every week, there'ssomething in there.
Although I don't know.
I think I got rid of most of mystuff.
SPEAKER_01 (04:22):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (04:22):
I went through a
cleansing stage at some point.
And now she doesn't haveanything.
I got I literally got rid ofeverything.
Like everything.
And there's no there's nopictures of me prior to 2009,
2010.
I've just moved 175 times in mylife and along the way.
(04:43):
Oh, it's so funny becauseeverybody is like, I can't
believe you threw pictures away.
And I don't have kids, and whowho is gonna you know what's
gonna happen to those pictures?
They're gonna get thrown in thetrash eventually.
Like who's gonna look at themwhen I'm old?
SPEAKER_04 (04:54):
Yeah, I I actually
just yesterday I had a little
spare time and no internetaccess, but I had my phone.
So I just started going throughand deleting um pictures off my
phone.
And it was so not like me todelete the kids.
Like I would if it was like wewere at the pool and there were
like 15 photos, I'd look to seeif there were one or two that I
(05:16):
wanted to keep, but I'm justerasing everything.
Like I just trashed everything.
Yeah.
Pictures of my cats.
SPEAKER_06 (05:23):
Yeah.
I mean, nobody's gonna look atthe shit.
Last Easter.
Who cares?
Like nobody cares about my no II don't have a legacy to leave,
so nobody's gonna give a shit.
SPEAKER_04 (05:36):
Yeah, and the ones
that are the pictures that are
important I have and I'll keep,but I mean pictures are so such
not a big deal anymore.
SPEAKER_06 (05:46):
I I mean for real.
SPEAKER_04 (05:47):
It used to be you
got 24 and you that was it.
Yeah.
You had to hope a quarter ofthose were not worth anything.
SPEAKER_06 (05:55):
When you when you
got them back, you had to hoop.
You had to send them away, andit took like two weeks to get
them back.
Yeah.
I didn't remember when it gotwell because we didn't have
photo max or photo were theyphoto maxes?
The little box photo mat?
Yeah, photo mat.
Um we didn't have them here.
Oh, we had one in Milford.
Did you?
Mm-hmm.
We didn't have them here.
Yep.
(06:15):
Um, but my aunt, when we wouldgo visit them in Pennsylvania,
they had them.
And that was exciting.
SPEAKER_04 (06:20):
Yeah, there was one
right in the center of the
Milford Plaza.
SPEAKER_05 (06:23):
Oh.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (06:26):
Yep.
So and then when you would finda roll of film that you had no
idea what it was, like that wasreally fun.
That was fun.
I we had so much more patienceback then though.
unknown (06:39):
I know.
SPEAKER_06 (06:39):
Because you didn't
have any choice.
Everything is just like rightnow, right now, right now, right
now.
Mm-hmm.
Right now.
I need it for right now.
Yes, yes.
You know, I guess that'stechnology.
Mm-hmm.
So anyway, it's been a year.
Yes.
And we have what it we this isgonna be what, 52?
Mm-hmm.
That's how many weeks are in theyear.
SPEAKER_04 (07:02):
Oh yeah.
If you look at our thing, itsays 53, but that's because we
had um a trailer in there.
SPEAKER_06 (07:10):
Cheating.
Yeah, um, yeah, so we weregonna, but that takes a lot more
work than Heather really wantedto do.
SPEAKER_04 (07:20):
Oh, that's why.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (07:22):
Was gonna do like
full clips, but then okay, so
here's a little secret.
Once I'm done editing it, Inever listen to it again.
SPEAKER_03 (07:32):
Once I'm done
speaking it, I never hear it
again.
SPEAKER_06 (07:36):
I don't.
I don't listen to it again.
I have no idea what is on any ofthe episodes that we have done.
I know.
So, in order for me to do a clipshow, which I mean, I guess is
okay.
And I might still do one just uhas an aside, but maybe.
Maybe, but then I have to go, Idon't know.
It seems like a lot more workthan I want to do.
(07:56):
It is a lot, yeah.
If they want to know what wesaid, they can go back and go
back on it.
unknown (08:00):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (08:01):
Then on the other
side, like if we have a clip
one, that's like only like ahalf an hour.
Then you can put it up as aanyway.
SPEAKER_01 (08:08):
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_06 (08:09):
I don't know.
But then I have to go back andlisten to all of them.
Or at least go back and read thetranscripts.
And then half the time, I don'tremember.
I know we have funny shit onthere, but I don't know.
Yeah.
I'd have to like, I don't havethat kind of time.
I don't have 52, probably 55hours.
I do, but I don't want to.
(08:32):
So you're not getting a clipshow.
Lucky you.
You're getting a brand new one.
Maybe in year three you'll get aclip show.
SPEAKER_04 (08:42):
Maybe.
If we ever start making moneyand can back up.
SPEAKER_06 (08:45):
I can hire someone
and get some better uh equipment
or I tried to bribe AI thismorning into going through all
the episodes and picking goodclips because I was like, isn't
that the whole fucking point ofAI?
Yeah, no, I even sent it likeall of it.
Like, here's the website withall of our episodes.
And it was like, I can't dothat.
(09:06):
And I'm like, what the what thefuck could are you doing?
SPEAKER_04 (09:08):
It's like I don't
have 55 hours to uh right.
SPEAKER_06 (09:13):
You got nothing else
to do.
You sit in this thing all daylong with nothing to do.
It still freaks me out that youuse AI.
I know.
SPEAKER_04 (09:20):
And I watch like CBS
Mornings, which with Gail and
Nate and Tony, uh, they're myfavorite, and they are
constantly talking about AI.
Really, a lot of it is, youknow, how parents can protect
their kids, and but all theseromantic relationships that are
happening and yeah, that'sweird, and all of the um it's
(09:41):
only complimentary, and it Thatis true.
They feel like it um just tellsyou what you want to hear.
And they said that they askedlike the same thing of three
different AIs and they gotdifferent answers for all of
them, like so.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm glad that you loveit, and I'm glad other people
love it, but I'm I'm scared ofit.
SPEAKER_06 (10:02):
I uh here's why I
like it.
Um mainly I use it as aspitball.
I spitball with it.
Yes, like I have here's what I'mthinking, and then I put that in
here's what I was thinking, andit'll say, Here is the list of
things, and then I'm like, uh,it's usually it's for the title
(10:27):
and for like some of the liketoday we're gonna be doing um a
promo and two commercials.
Um it'll do a script for that,no problem.
And the thing about it isthough, then I'm like, oh, I
don't like that, and then we goback and forth.
And it is really actually liketalking to somebody else that uh
(10:48):
is in your own head, I guess.
So it's like me talking to me.
So we both have the same idea.
SPEAKER_04 (10:54):
See, you think
that's cool.
I think it's creepy.
SPEAKER_06 (10:59):
And I usually hate
robots, so I don't know.
SPEAKER_04 (11:02):
Yeah, I mean, my my
therapist loves it.
Um, when I'm trying to think ofa way to word something that I
want to say to somebody orsomething, she'll be like, just
go on chat P T P T whatever itis, and and she'll punch it in
and she'll say what it said.
And I'm like, okay, thanks.
SPEAKER_06 (11:16):
Yeah, I don't use
chat GBT.
I have um mine came with oneGemini uh because I'm a Samsung
user.
Um and I like it.
Um and another thing about it isas even if the whole computer
shuts down, because as we know,I'm not good about remembering
to plug things in, um it just itbecause it's been working with
(11:38):
you this whole time, it knows,so I can just come in and be
like, oh well, this episode ison XYZ, and I'll be like, oh
hey, and then I'll be like,Well, I was thinking like this,
but make it punny, and thenwe'll and I'm like, eh, I don't
like that.
And so that's that's what I useit.
That's what I use it for.
I use it as like a spitballingthat makes sense.
SPEAKER_04 (12:00):
I did learn today on
um watching the news that uh
employers are really starting toflag um note to everyone looking
for a job.
They're starting to flag resumesand cover letters created by AI.
Yeah, they said they can spotthem from a mile away.
SPEAKER_06 (12:17):
It is it is easy to
spot.
SPEAKER_04 (12:19):
And they said that
you know it in that situation
you need they need some personalstuff.
Like it doesn't seem it doesn'tfeel um authentic.
So watch out for that if you'reapplying for a job.
SPEAKER_06 (12:34):
Well, I can also see
that like when we when I do a
script with it for something,because when you put in like
what you want the name of it tobe, it'll say, you know, uh of
course if I put this is what Iwas thinking.
And a lot of times I'll do it.
Um there was an episode that Iwanted to name something, and I
wasn't sure if it would be acopyright issue.
(12:55):
So I'd ask it and it would sayit's iffy.
Right.
So you might want to go with andthen it would send out
something.
So it's good for that.
Um I was going somewhere withthat, and now I don't remember.
SPEAKER_04 (13:10):
Yeah, college is
also um when you're writing your
college letters, um, they theytrash that stuff too.
So just a word to the wise.
I know where I was going withit.
SPEAKER_06 (13:22):
It'll when it when
you when you spit out like when
I it'll say, like, oh yeah, doyou want me to make a script
for, you know, like if theepisode is whatever last week's
episode was the peanuts.
Oh yeah, the peanuts.
Then it would be like, would youlike to come up with like a
TikTok thing and it'll give youa script for a TikTok, or like,
do you want to do a fake ad forand it'll come.
(13:45):
The only issue with it is islike imagine the most
ridiculously stupid gen Xnonsense.
Like it just throws it all atthe wall, like it just puts
everything in there, and that'ssomething we specifically try to
avoid.
It will throw like it's justeverything.
But yeah, I did use it for thetwo commercials that are gonna
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So, anyway, who's gonna do thethe beginning this time?
(14:51):
You are.
Is it because it's my week?
SPEAKER_04 (14:53):
It is, but next
week's your week too.
Damn it.
I'm never gonna do it.
You and your bright ideas tocombo it.
SPEAKER_06 (15:02):
No, such a pie hole.
So, yeah, this week is a combo.
And so I'll just say, let's fuckaround and find out about one
hit wonders for our one-yearanniversary.
When we decided to do this, I wedid not tell each other what our
songs are.
Correct.
So this is gonna be a surpriseto everyone, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (15:26):
And I doubt we
picked the same songs.
I tried not to.
Based on our music tastes, Iwould say we probably didn't.
SPEAKER_06 (15:34):
I know, but watch,
we'll both have the same fucking
songs.
SPEAKER_04 (15:36):
I bet.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (15:37):
It'll be all five
exactly the same.
SPEAKER_04 (15:39):
Yeah.
So we figured one yearanniversary, one hit wonders, a
combo script between the two ofus.
Um, yeah, I'm pretty excited.
And this was actually a verychallenging script to research
because you know, you justGoogle like one hit wonders of
Gen X, one hit wonders of the80s, one hit wonders of the 90s,
(15:59):
and it's like, oh yeah, oh yeah,oh my god.
Oh yeah, what's a one-hitwonder?
So I really I tried to withmine.
What I did was I picked songsthat I really truly loved back
when they came out.
I never grew tired of hearingthem on the radio.
I had them on a mixtape that Ilistened to over and over, and I
(16:20):
still to this day, when I hearit, it makes me happy to hear
it.
So those were the songs I triedto go with.
SPEAKER_06 (16:26):
Before we I did want
to say one more thing because
um, so I we were just talkingabout this before, and I was so
excited.
I have not listened toterrestrial radio.
I couldn't even I got SiriusSatellite Radio the day after
Sirius Satellite Radio was athing.
Like I have had satellite radioforever.
(16:50):
Um just because I'm a loser andit's hard for me to find my
music on things, so um, but I amusing a car that does not have
the ability to have any of this.
So I've had to listen toterrestrial radio the last week
and a half.
And A, I won a gift certificateon a radio station already,
(17:15):
because that's the kind of nerdI am.
It's your thing, man.
I fucking love it.
SPEAKER_04 (17:19):
I you can win a
radio contest like nobody else
is.
SPEAKER_06 (17:22):
I forget how much
fun that is to do.
Um so I have a gift certificate.
SPEAKER_04 (17:26):
We weren't called
Depache Mood once because you
won tickets on a radio show.
SPEAKER_06 (17:30):
So on my way to
school when I was in uh I guess
a I guess senior year, I starteddriving junior year.
Yeah.
So either junior or senior year.
Anyway, the one radio stationwould do a trivia question right
as I was pulling into the schoolparking lot.
And we had a um payphone in thelunchroom by the back door where
(17:55):
we would come in.
So I would we would as we werepulling in the parking lot, they
would be doing the triviaquestion, and then I would run
in the building.
SPEAKER_01 (18:03):
Well, she didn't
actually run.
SPEAKER_06 (18:04):
No, I didn't.
And I would I would call and I Iwon, let's see, my first CD.
I got off of that.
Um I I would used to I called sofucking much to a lot.
Actually, one of my Facebookfriends is one of the DJs from
one of the that used to do the80s on one of the radio stations
(18:26):
because I listened to it and Iwould call in so much.
Yeah, anyway.
SPEAKER_04 (18:31):
So Yeah, I used to
win albums.
It was I mean, back then it wasreally cool because I was a
teenager, but now in hindsight,like I would win and I'd have to
drive to Georgetown.
Yeah, which was like half anhour from home, and you'd walk
in all excited, and they'd justpull out a box of like old
albums and be like, Here, pickone.
That was your prize.
SPEAKER_06 (18:51):
That's actually how
I got Bon Jovi Slippery When
Wet, which was my first CD, andI did not have a CD player.
And I had to get one.
Like I had to my uncle had oneand he ended up giving it to me
because I didn't have but theydid.
They opened, they it was like abig vat.
And he was like, just pick one.
SPEAKER_04 (19:09):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (19:10):
And I believe that
DJ is dead.
Oh, yeah.
I got um I got a Taylor Danealbum once.
So that reminded me becausetoday, on my way here, it was um
live at one and one o'clock, andthey played You Give Love a Bad
(19:32):
Name by Bon Jovi.
And I had to scream.
And then I had to go to thedrive-thru of the Duncan.
SPEAKER_04 (19:42):
Did you serenate the
uh I didn't.
SPEAKER_06 (19:44):
I had to turn it
down, but I was like, hurry up.
unknown (19:48):
I'm not done.
SPEAKER_06 (19:50):
The best part is
coming.
So, yeah.
Okay.
Do you want me to go first orare you gonna go first?
It's up to you.
I'll go first because this firstone I have is I did it, and then
I was like, I don't know if Ireally want to do this song.
And then I found one of thecoolest um fun facts.
Fun facts that I don't know ifyou know.
(20:11):
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (20:12):
Should we for did
you write down your um
references?
SPEAKER_06 (20:15):
I didn't because I
totally forgot.
SPEAKER_04 (20:16):
All right, so um,
I'll do mine real quick before
we start.
Um, songfacts.com,rollingstone.com, screen
rant.com, and storytell.com.
Jeez.
I have they used all the sameones.
unknown (20:27):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (20:28):
I have no idea what
I used.
Just Googled and whatever wasthe first one terrible.
SPEAKER_01 (20:33):
Yeah, yeah.
unknown (20:35):
Okay.
SPEAKER_06 (20:36):
Our first one.
Are you ready?
I'm ready.
I can't wait for you to hear thefun fact at the end of this.
Right said Fred, I'm too sexy.
Oh too sexy.
So prior to forming Right SaidFred, their Fairbrass brothers
had been playing music since themid-70s as part of a band called
the Actors.
(20:57):
The brothers had toured withSuicide and supported Joy
Division at the Factory Club inManchester.
I was surprised by that.
Yeah.
But I can't wait.
I am so fucking excited to behere.
The Fairbrass brothers formedthe group in 89 with Richard on
the aid vocals and bass and Fredon guitar.
(21:18):
Uh Richard was employed as asession bassist for artists
including Boy George, MickJagger, and David Bowie, and
appeared as the bass guitaristin Bowie's short film Jazzin'
for Blue Jean.
In 87, Fred appeared as aguitarist in the Bob Dylan
vehicle Hearts of Fire.
Um, the group was named afterthe novelty song, Right Said
Fred, which was a hit single forsinger and actor Bernard
(21:41):
Cribbins in 1962.
The Fairbrass brothers wereoriginally accompanied by
drummer Ray Weston and guitaristDan Krause.
Weston left in 90 to join thegroup Wishbone Ash, and Cruz
left the next year.
Rob Myanzoli joined in 1990 andremained with the group until
1997.
In 1991, the group released itsdebut single and best-known song
(22:06):
I'm Too Sexy on the independentLondon-based record label Tug
Records.
The Fairbrass brothers havestated that the song lyrics are
centered on certain users of thegym they owned in London, who
they claimed had no shame.
A lot of models used our gym, sowe thought it was time to start
poking fun of them.
The song was a considerable hitin the United Kingdom, spending
(22:28):
six weeks at number two on thecharts behind Brian Adams,
Everything I Do, I Do For You.
Robin Hood?
Yes.
Remember when we were torturedwith that forever?
Pretty sure it was a prom themeone year.
It was not.
So maybe it was.
(22:51):
The song earned the band anomination for an Ivor Novelli
Award.
I'm Too Sexy has subsequentlybeen used in over 40 television
shows and movies, including MyWife and Kids, The Simpsons, The
West Wing, and East Enders.
In 1992, Heavenly Recordsreleased an EP that featured the
label's axe covering Rate SaidFred's song for charity.
(23:12):
The Fred EP includes SaintEtienne performing I'm Too Sexy,
The Rocking Birds, and FloweredUp.
Here's my fun fact.
Brace yourself.
SPEAKER_04 (23:23):
Okay.
SPEAKER_06 (23:25):
In August of 2017,
Richard and Fred were credited
as songwriters on the TaylorSwift single, Look What You Made
Me Do, alongside Jack Antinoffand Swift herself.
The song's chorus is an interpelinterpolate interpolation of the
famous chorus from I'm Too Sexy.
SPEAKER_04 (23:47):
That boom is
amazing.
No.
I mean, of course I know thatsong, but now I'm gonna have to
go back and listen to it,knowing that funny fact.
I know.
I love how you tied Taylor Swiftin.
SPEAKER_06 (23:59):
I you are welcome.
Look at how See, that's 33 yearsof friendship.
SPEAKER_04 (24:04):
Yeah.
It's so funny because when I wasin therapy this week, um my um
uh therapist was making me thinkof ways that I am doing
self-care.
Right.
And I was like, Well, I listento Taylor Swift every time I'm
in the car.
She was like, That counts.
And now I get to write TaylorSwift in my notes.
unknown (24:25):
That's funny.
SPEAKER_04 (24:26):
So big on the little
um Swift inserts there.
SPEAKER_06 (24:30):
I know, I know my
Swifties.
SPEAKER_04 (24:32):
That's amazing.
I really had no idea of that.
SPEAKER_06 (24:34):
Um also might if it
gets into the um the
transcripts, the word TaylorSwift.
Oh yeah, um I'm too sexy aboutit.
SPEAKER_04 (24:47):
I'm too sexy, not
I'm not too sexy for Taylor
Swift.
She's too sexy for everybody.
Um I also have a fun fact aboutthat song.
Okay, and it's very Gen X.
And I don't know if you everknew this or if you remember,
but in our one of our pastlives, uh-huh, you and I, uh, we
had the same mother-in-law.
(25:09):
Yes, and she had a sister whohad three sons.
Yes.
So the youngest one uh went tothe MTV spring break in is it
Miami?
Oh sure.
Um and remember they would havethe um lip syncing contests?
Yes.
(25:29):
He and his some of his friendsdid I'm too sexy, and they won a
year supply of Pepsi.
Oh, did not know that.
Yep, yep, yep.
A little little family historythere on learn something new on
your very first song.
I know about people that you'veknown for really top this now.
SPEAKER_06 (25:50):
I know, maybe I
should have done that one last.
No, no, no, no.
So fucking excited was a greatway to start it.
Because when I was doing it, Iwas like, the first song that
popped into my head was I'm toosexy, because I just fucking
love that song.
And then when I Googled it, Iwas like, oh, I don't know.
Because like they did do a lotwith like Joy Division and all
that, and I was like, uh, andthen when I saw that, I was
(26:12):
like, done.
Sign me up.
SPEAKER_04 (26:16):
So there you got
your sign.
All right, so my first songmight be my favorite one, hit
wonder, and then I have no ideawhy.
I've just always fucking lovedthis song so much.
Okay, hit me.
Girlfriend by Matthew Sweet.
I don't think I know that.
I think I do, probably, but ohyeah.
(26:39):
There we go.
There we go.
SPEAKER_06 (26:44):
The magic of
editing.
Yeah, I know that song.
We had to do a pause, but I doknow that song.
SPEAKER_04 (26:49):
Yeah, I knew she
did.
All right, so Sweet recordedthis song in 1990 as he was
going through a brutal divorce.
Around the same time, he metsomeone new giving girlfriend
layers of emotional turmoil.
The song finds him making anoffer to a potential love
interest.
Um he's her good friend, but ifshe'll be he'll be her good
(27:11):
friend if she'll be hisgirlfriend.
Um, at the end of the song, hegets a little possessive.
I'm never gonna set you free.
Uh I mean.
Yeah, stalker songs areeverywhere, kind of a thing back
then.
This was Matthew Sweet'sbreakout single, but it nearly
got binned along with the restof the album.
(27:32):
Born in Nebraska in 1964, Sweetattended the University of
Georgia, located in the musicalhat bed of Athens, Georgia, home
of REM.
Yes.
In 1983, he joined a band calledOkay, Oh OK, which included
Michael Stipe's sister, Linda.
This led to more musicalconnections and a gig playing
(27:53):
with the Golden Palominos.
Columbia Records signed him andreleased his first album,
Inside, in 1986.
Uh, he followed the he followedwith Earth on AM Records in
1989.
His acclaim didn't translate toalbum sales, and AM dropped him
instead of releasing hisgirlfriend album.
(28:14):
Around the same time, his homewas flooded, trashing his
guitars and record collections.
That sucks.
Yeah, he's had a pretty bumlife.
Um he was considering a careerchange when Zoo Records signed
him and released the album in1991.
Their risk paid off.
The album sold over 500,000copies in America and
established Suite as a nationalact.
He never went full rock star,but had a very successful career
(28:38):
and continued to show up inhigh-profile collaborations,
including a series of albumswith Susanna Hoffs, uh, starting
with Under the Covers Volume 1in 2006.
Huh.
The Akron Ohio Akron Ohioguitarist Robert Quine played on
this track.
Quine has appeared on albums bymany acclaimed rockers,
(28:59):
including Lou Reed, Tom Waits,and Richard Hell and the
Voidoids.
Yeah, never heard of them.
Uh the album cover is a photo ofthe movie star Tuesday Weld,
which Sweet selected because itlooked cool.
unknown (29:15):
I agree.
SPEAKER_04 (29:17):
Weld, who started
her career in the 1950s, is
known for her roles in PrettyPoison in 1968 and Looking for
Mr.
Goodbar in 1972.
I have heard of Looking for Mr.
Good Bar.
Yes.
Um, Sweet released an alternateuh version of this song on his
1992 album Good Friend, AnotherTake on Girlfriend.
(29:42):
The video was directed by RomanCoppola and is mainly comprised
of scenes from the 1982 animefilm Space Adventure Cobra.
The lyrics to this and othersongs on the album were the
framework for a musical calledGirlfriend Stage.
By the Berkeley Repertory UhTheater in 2010.
(30:05):
Set in Sweet's home state ofNebraska.
The play is about two gay teenscoming to terms with their
sexuality.
I wanted the album to be reallyuniversal, Sweet told the LA
Times regarding its use in theproduction.
The songs were very personal tome, but it makes me proud and
makes me glad that other peoplecould relate to it.
(30:25):
That somebody who is gay couldrelate.
That's fantastic.
For Sweet, 2024 was shaping upto be a reset after several
years off the road after thepandemic.
The man who almostsingle-handedly kept Power Pop
alive had put together a newband and played shows in the
spring.
He was in the early stages ofprepping his album since 2021.
(30:49):
In the fall, he started anotherround of gigs, this time opening
for Hansen, whom he's known,whom he's known and worked with
for more than 20 years, anddoing his own separate shows.
I really felt very positiveabout it, he says.
I was doing two hour-longacoustic shows, playing songs
from all during my career.
(31:11):
Then, last October 12th, Sweetand his crew, uh his small
acoustic band, his road manager,arrived at their hotel in
Toronto.
His tour with Hansen was intoits second week, and Sweet had
just driven up from the previousstop in Baltimore.
As they were checking in, thesinger who had turned 60 the
week before felt a sensationhe'd never experienced before.
(31:34):
The first thing I felt wasreally cool, like cold sweat, he
says.
And I remember saying to one ofmy band members, feel my arm,
it's freezing cold, somethingwasn't right.
Uh-oh.
Slumping into a chair behind thefront desk, Sweet began hearing
what he calls this kind oftinnitus, more like white noise,
and that became really, really,really loud in both my ears.
(31:57):
And that's the last thing Iremember until I was in an
ambulance and I heard a guy say,Sir, you've had a stroke.
In the months since thatdiagnosis, Sweet has had to cope
with more than canceledperformances, first in Canada,
then in his home state, and nowat his house, he's had to
relearn how to walk, talk, andplay any sort of instrument.
(32:19):
He's learned that a stroke canimpact other parts of the body
and that recovery can be slowand painstaking.
Since he didn't have insuranceat the time of his stroke, he's
also become a representation ofartists who can't always afford
it and count on touring to paytheir bills.
It was really a drag because thetouring went so amazingly well
in the first part of the year,sweet says now.
(32:42):
And then bang, I had a strokeand it was all over.
So yeah.
I wasn't expecting it to be thatmuch of a bummer.
SPEAKER_06 (32:51):
But it's a great,
it's a great time to, you know,
input a little politicalnonsense that you all need to
remember that you are one badthing away from being completely
homeless.
No matter how much money youhave in your bank, something
(33:12):
like this can happen to anybody.
And I know from personalexperience how fast medical
bills go through the roof.
Yes.
And I can also tell you that youhave to pay them before
insurance pays.
And sometimes you get a reallybig bill from 20 years ago.
(33:35):
That's$500,000.
SPEAKER_04 (33:37):
Yeah, I remember
that.
That was nuts.
SPEAKER_06 (33:39):
Yeah, and you know,
yeah.
It's sometimes it takes a whilefor the insurance to kick in if
you even have it.
SPEAKER_04 (33:46):
Right.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (33:48):
And I don't want to
go on a tangent, but I hope that
a lot of Americans are not goingto lose theirs anytime soon
because that's no reason why wecannot have universal health
care in this country that issupposed to be.
There is a reason why.
SPEAKER_04 (34:05):
It's because the
rich won't get richer if we do
that.
SPEAKER_06 (34:09):
Other than that
reason, there is no reason.
It's always about the mummy.
We could all have health carelike every other civilized
country on the planet.
What do I know?
SPEAKER_04 (34:25):
Yeah.
So if you don't have insuranceand you're gonna have a major
medical issue, be on vacation inCanada when it happens because
you'll be covered.
Yep.
SPEAKER_03 (34:35):
Citizen or not?
Look at that.
Oh, I know.
SPEAKER_06 (34:38):
I know.
God damn it.
SPEAKER_04 (34:42):
Yeah.
All right.
What's next?
Hopefully it's not somethingthat's depressing.
I don't think so.
SPEAKER_06 (34:50):
Okay.
So my second one is Kung FuFighting.
It's a disco song by JamaicanBritish vocalist Carl Douglas,
written by Douglas and producedby British Indian music Bidoo.
It was released in 1974, theyear I was born.
(35:12):
The first single from his debutalbum, Kung Fu Fighting and
Other Great Love Songs.
Yeah.
It's on the cusp of uh Chopsakifilm craze and rose to the top
of the British, Australian,Canadian, and American charts.
SPEAKER_04 (35:28):
That's funny because
back then Grasshopper, like
those what was his name?
Oh, I can see his face.
I know.
Fuck.
unknown (35:40):
Jackie Jan.
SPEAKER_04 (35:42):
Was it Daniel?
No.
I'll look it up.
SPEAKER_06 (35:48):
Um it received a
gold certification and
popularized disco music.
It eventually went on to sell 11million records worldwide,
making it one of thebest-selling singles of all
time.
The song uses the Oriental Rift,which is probably problematic.
Yeah.
A short musical phrase that isused to signify the Chinese
(36:09):
culture.
Kung Fu Fighting was ratednumber 100 in VH1's 100 greatest
one-hit wonders, and number onein the UK channel for top 10
one-hit wonders in 2000.
Oh David Carradine.
unknown (36:25):
Oh.
SPEAKER_04 (36:26):
Okay.
I knew when I heard it I wasgonna be like.
SPEAKER_06 (36:31):
Um in 2000, oh 2006,
uh, the BBC's Channel 4.
No, the UK's Channel 4 did thesame 50 Greatest One-Hit Wonders
poll, and he performed the songlive.
The song was covered usingdifferent lyrics by CeeLo Green
(36:55):
and with Jack Black and theVamps for the first and third
film of the Kung Fu Pandafranchise.
The song was originally meant tobe a B side to I Want to Give
You My Everything.
But they originally hiredDouglas to sing, I want to give
you my everything, but neededsomething to record for the B
side, and asked Douglas if hehad any lyrics that could they
(37:17):
could use.
Douglas showed several out, ofwhich Bidu chose the one that
would later be called Kung FuFighting and worked out a melody
for it without taking it tooseriously.
After more than two hoursrecording the A side and then
time for a break, there wereonly 10 minutes of studio time
remaining due to a three-hourtime constraint for the entire
session.
(37:38):
So only two ticks of Kung FuFighting were recorded.
Wow.
SPEAKER_03 (37:42):
He's like us.
SPEAKER_06 (37:43):
Uh huh.
Kung Fu Fighting was the B side,so I went over the top on the
hus and the ha's and thechopping sounds.
It was a B side.
Who was gonna listen?
After hearing both songs, Roband Blancheflower of Pi Records
insisted that Kung Fu Fightingbe the A side instead.
Following its release, the songdid not receive any air radio
(38:04):
airplay for the first five weeksand sold poorly, but the song
began gaining popularity indance clubs, eventually entering
the UK singles chart at number42 and reaching the top on the
21st of September in 1974.
Leave it to the disco.
Yes.
Uh it was released in the U.S.
where it quickly topped theBillboard Hot 100 chart.
(38:26):
The single went on to sell 11million records worldwide.
At the Amusement and MusicalOperators Association Jukebox
Awards in 1975.
The song was awarded JukeboxSoul Record of the Year for
being the year's highest-earningsoul music song played on
Jukebox Machines in the UnitedStates.
SPEAKER_04 (38:47):
Wow.
SPEAKER_06 (38:48):
And the song was
featured in the 1981 film This
is Elvis.
Also, fun story.
So um, you know my cousin.
This he played this as hismother sundance, and they had a
whole little choreographed.
He made my poor aunt do that.
(39:13):
The whole thing.
That's hilarious.
SPEAKER_04 (39:15):
I love that because
I used to uh choreograph stuff
and make my friends dance.
Well, he made his mother good.
Well, he and I have something incommon.
Besides our love for the eagles.
Yes.
SPEAKER_06 (39:31):
And and my aunt's
food.
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_04 (39:34):
All right.
So my next one is seriously oneof my favorite songs of all
time.
Um, Come On Eileen by Dexie'sMidnight Runners.
Yeah.
God, it's such a good song.
Um, so Dexies Midnight Runnerswere an English pop rock band
primarily active in the 80s,eventually reforming under the
(39:56):
shortened name Dexies.
Their biggest moment in thespotlight came with the release
of their second studio album in1982 entitled To Rye.
SPEAKER_05 (40:07):
Too Rye Rye.
SPEAKER_04 (40:11):
Oh, right.
More specifically, the LP'ssecond single, Come on Eileen,
which topped the charts in boththe United States and the UK.
This came at a pivotal point forthe fluctuating group, whose
founding members, guitarist andvocalist Kevin Archer and Bacon
Rowland, had previously beengrowing more at odds with each
(40:31):
other.
Archer, feelings frustrated byRolland's erratic behavior as
group leader, wound up departingDexies to form another musical
endeavor entitled The Blue OxBabes in 1981.
After Come on Eileen became ahit on multiple continents,
Archer insinuated, though neverpublicly, that Roland had stolen
(40:55):
the buildup to come on Eileenfrom a demo tape of a song
Archer had previously shownRoland.
He also claimed Roland had takenthe Celtic folk rock aesthetic
of Dexies LP Touraye from theBlue Oxwaves.
(41:16):
While Roland was later, wouldlater confess to lifting the
style of Come on Eileen fromArcher, he ultimately walked
back these comments saying hewas in a dark place.
Roland did admit he was inspiredby the sound of Archer's tape,
(41:38):
but everything else about Comeon Eileen is original.
Despite infighting in Dexie'sMidnight Runners and a lineup
that kept changing, Come onEileen was still a triumph.
Not only was the track a massivesuccess, but the song did so so
well that when it became anumber one smash in 1983, it
managed to take the spot fromMichael Jackson's iconic Billy
(42:03):
Jean.
Shit.
Not a one-hit wonder.
No.
Uh come on Aileen is also ararity for its time, as a
prevailing amount of number onehits in the 80s were made with
electric pianos and synthesizedsynthesizers.
Dexies went in the oppositedirection in their sound, which
(42:24):
featured brass instruments,fiddles, and a soulful sense of
Celtic folk rock that wasn'tlike anything on the radio back
then.
After several attempts to revivethe band following the 1987
breakup, Roland was able toreboot Dexies Midnight Runners
in the early 2000s, renamingthem the Dexies.
(42:44):
While the group never againreached the heights of Come on
Eileen and its success in theUS, charting a few other songs
in the UK, the song remainsclassic rock royalty.
In that sense, this has kept thestory of Dexies Midnight Runners
alive and continues to exposethe sound of the group to newer
generations as time goes on.
That may seem like a lot toplace on Come on Eileen, but as
(43:08):
any diehard music fan will tellyou, that's the power that lies
within a single song.
I love that song.
I just love that song.
And I used to have a neighborand um what was a couple and
they had two kids and they wouldhave birthday parties, and um
the wife's parents would comedown from Jersey and her mom's
(43:31):
name was Eileen.
And I was like, oh, and theywere huge, like rock fans, like
they're in their 60s, probably,and they still go to concerts,
like all kinds of rock concerts,and they're even into some
really heavy stuff.
Um but I was like, man, you'reso lucky.
She's like, I know.
(43:54):
I wish come on, Eileen was namedafter me.
SPEAKER_06 (43:59):
I want to have a
song named after me.
SPEAKER_04 (44:01):
Yeah, because I
would totally claim that if my
name was Eileen.
SPEAKER_06 (44:04):
Sure, there's gotta
be a Nicole song out there
somewhere.
SPEAKER_03 (44:08):
Um I don't think
I've ever found one.
SPEAKER_06 (44:11):
I'm gonna look I'm
gonna look after I do my number
my my number.
That'd be stupid country orsomething.
Probably.
Or some weird German.
SPEAKER_04 (44:24):
Well, I am German,
so maybe some weird like German
club.
Oh, if it's like a rave song,I'd be down with that.
SPEAKER_06 (44:33):
Oh god.
I can't I cannot, I cannot dorave.
Cannot somebody posted uh on oneof the Facebook pages, somebody
posted a picture of like 1990s,and they were all ready, they
were all ready to go to a rave,and under it was like what's
missing, and they didn't havepacifiers, so it was obvious.
SPEAKER_04 (44:54):
I was gonna say it's
either pacifiers or pacifiers.
SPEAKER_06 (44:56):
Oh, the whistles,
and I said, well, everybody else
said pacifiers, and I was like,don't forget the whistle.
Everybody was like, Oh my god,you're fucking whistle.
SPEAKER_04 (45:03):
I thought a whistle
before I thought of pacifiers.
Oh god.
Tweet, tweet, tweet, to-weet,tweet.
SPEAKER_06 (45:10):
Not a fan, not a
fan.
SPEAKER_04 (45:13):
Remember that raver
kid that we had that came to the
club?
SPEAKER_06 (45:16):
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (45:16):
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_06 (45:18):
What did we call
him?
SPEAKER_04 (45:19):
Christine and I had
a I remember that you had a
nickname for him.
unknown (45:23):
God damn it.
SPEAKER_06 (45:24):
And he wore a
ladybug backpack, and we named
the ladybug Queenie.
Ravemaster D.
SPEAKER_04 (45:32):
Because his name was
Dwayne.
Yes, yes.
SPEAKER_06 (45:35):
Shit, I haven't
thought about Ravemaster D in a
really long time.
SPEAKER_04 (45:38):
Yes, what a great
memory.
SPEAKER_06 (45:40):
He's probably dead.
SPEAKER_04 (45:42):
No doubt.
Yeah.
Or living off the gridsomewhere.
Well, it was funny.
SPEAKER_06 (45:48):
So the club we went
to was um up until a certain
time, it was all goth, uhdepeche mode, and just all the,
you know, the saddest songs youcould possibly think of.
And dance too.
Um more see all of that.
And then a lot of ministry.
(46:08):
Then it would switch over to themore industrial.
I you would see it startswitching over to the
industrial.
So that's amazing.
Nine inch nails, ministry, andthen once we would get into the
then it would start moving intothe rave.
But you would see the raversstart showing up, and then you
would see the goth kids movingout.
So it would be like and it waslike literally the mosh pit is
(46:32):
what brought like a hurricane ofgoth and rave, and then the
goths would go out in the andthat was our cue to go because I
couldn't take there.
Are some rave songs that I don'tmind, but I mean, for the most
part, it's just like it's justso repetitive.
SPEAKER_04 (46:49):
I know we were my
roommate and I were watching um
Only Murders in the Buildinglast night because the new
episode came out this week, anduh in a scene they played O
Fortuna.
And do you remember I had thatalbum and it was the operatic
rave version, and I could notget enough of that song.
SPEAKER_06 (47:12):
So I do, I am not
gonna lie, I do have a couple
rave songs in my playlist.
Um I can't remember what they'recalled right now.
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SPEAKER_06 (47:51):
We just had to take
a little rave break.
SPEAKER_04 (47:53):
We did.
We danced a little.
SPEAKER_06 (47:55):
I wish we could play
music for you guys, but we can't
have that kind of money, soyeah.
SPEAKER_04 (47:59):
Um and I wish we
could still dance to that, but
we would need that healthinsurance if we did.
SPEAKER_06 (48:04):
We we had to to
chair it.
SPEAKER_04 (48:07):
We chair danced.
SPEAKER_06 (48:08):
We moshed.
SPEAKER_04 (48:09):
I still think I hurt
my back.
SPEAKER_06 (48:11):
We had some
ministries, Michaela, Lord's the
acid.
We had it all there for a littlebit.
We did, we did.
So good times.
We're gonna bring it down anotch.
SPEAKER_04 (48:19):
Yeah, not really,
because this is pretty
definitely listening to Erasureon the way home.
No, one of those songs triggeredme.
Fucking erasure.
SPEAKER_06 (48:26):
I love erasure and
pet shop boys.
Oh, I love pet shop boys.
Okay, so my next one is verytimely to this time of year.
And it's from a movie, and weliterally just watched this
movie two days ago, which iswhat made me put it on here.
(48:47):
Who are you gonna call?
Ghostbusters!
SPEAKER_04 (48:50):
Yeah, what man,
that's a great movie.
SPEAKER_06 (48:54):
I know.
We watched actually Ghostbusters2, and it's terrible.
Um Ghostbusters is a songwritten by American musician Ray
Parker Jr.
as a theme to the 1984 filmGhostbusters.
Bobby Brown has one inGhostbusters Dose.
Oh, I am a Bobby Brown fan.
Uh, it's in it's included on thesoundtrack.
(49:16):
Debuted at number 68 in June of84.
The song peaked at number one onthe Billboard Hot 100 in August,
staying there for three weeks.
It's Parker's only number one onthat chart, and at number two on
the UK singles chart inSeptember, staying there for
three weeks.
The song re-entered the UK Top75 in November of 2008 at number
(49:40):
49, and again on November 5th,2021, at number 38.
The song was nominated at the57th Academy Award for Best
Original Song, but lost toStevie Wonders, I Just Called to
Say I Love You.
A lawsuit accusing Parker ofbasing the song's melody on Huey
Lewis and the news song I Want aNew Drug resulted in Lewis
(50:01):
receiving a settlement, which Ifound out he continues to make
all the money off of that song.
I think I do remember that.
Um Parker was approached by thefilm's producer to create a
theme song, although the only heonly had a few days to do so.
Parker had been specificallyinstructed to include the film's
(50:23):
title in the lyrics butstruggled to find a way to do
so.
However, when watchingtelevision late at night, Parker
saw a cheap commercial for alocal service that reminded him
that the film had a similarcommercial featured for the
fictional business.
This inspired him to include thephrase, Who you gonna call?
which allows the crowd torespond with Ghostbusters,
(50:43):
sparing him from needing to singthe phrase.
Lindsay Buckingham, on hisinterview disc, Words and Music,
stated that he was approached towrite the Ghostbusters theme
based on his successfulcontribution to National
Lampoons Vacation, Holiday Road.
He declined the opportunity ashe did not want to be known as a
(51:03):
soundtrack artist.
Glenn Hughes and Pat Thrall alsosubmitted a demo that was
ultimately rejected.
The Hughes and Thrall versionwas later rewritten and used as
the track Dance or Die for the87 film Dragnet.
The theme is estimated to haveadded 20 million to the film's
box office gross.
(51:25):
The music video for the song wasdirected by Ivan Reitman, who
also directed the Ghostbustersfilm and produced by Jeffrey
Abelson.
It featured a young woman playedby actress Cindy Harrell, who is
haunted by a ghost portrayed byParker, roaming a nearly
all-black house interior withvibrant neon designs outlining
the sparse architecture andindustrial features.
(51:48):
Until the woman finally callsthe service.
Ghostbusters.
Um it was number one on MTV andfeatures cameos by celebrities
Chevy Chase, Irene Kara, JohnCandy, Melissa Gilbert, Ollie E.
Brown, Jeffrey Tambor, GeorgeWent, Al Franken, Danny DeVito,
Carly Simon, Peter Falk, andTerry Garr.
SPEAKER_04 (52:08):
Um, I had forgotten
all that stuff about it.
SPEAKER_06 (52:12):
The video concludes
with Parker and the stars of the
film in full Ghostbusterscostume dancing down the street
of New York City.
Remember that part.
Times Square was closed in orderto film the scene, although a
sizable crowd may still be seenin the background.
The Ghostbusters also performedthe same dance in the closing
credits to the realGhostbusters, the cartoon
(52:32):
spinoff.
I fucking love that cartoon.
As well as the trailer for the2009 Ghostbuster video game.
So the lawsuit, because I hadforgotten about the lawsuit,
shortly shortly after the film'srelease, Huey Lewis sued Ray
Parker Jr.
for plagiarism, alleging thatParker had copied the melody
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from Lewis's 1983 song I Want aNew Drug.
The case was settled out ofcourt in 1985 for an undeclose
undisclosed sum andconfidentiality agreement that
prohibited discussion of thecase.
According to Parker, there wereseveral lawsuits at the time
because when you sell that manyrecords, I think everybody wants
to say they wrote the song.
Parker later sued Lewis forbreaching the confidentiality
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agreement in 2001's episode ofVH1's Behind the Music by
reasserting that Parker stolethe song.
Regarding his case againstLewis, Parker said, I got a lot
of money out of that.
Lewis said it was at least30,000 in an interview with
Dutch Television.
In a 2004 article for PremierMagazine, filmmakers admitted to
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using the song I Want a New Drugas a temporary background music
in many scenes.
They also noted that they hadoffered to hire Huey Lewis and
the news to write the maintheme, but the band had
declined.
The filmmaker then gave Philfootage with Lewis's song in the
background to Parker to aid himin writing the theme song.
SPEAKER_04 (53:55):
Scandal.
I love it.
I love Huey Lewis Scandal.
So Ghostbusters.
Yeah, I yeah, that was a reallygreat movie, but it kind of
blows my mind that that songstayed was like at number one.
unknown (54:09):
I know.
SPEAKER_04 (54:11):
Can you imagine like
real musicians making like real
songs faint like?
Are you fucking kidding me?
We did love our uh movie themesongs back then though.
SPEAKER_06 (54:26):
So wait till you see
what my last song is.
Oh that's how I know you don'thave that.
SPEAKER_04 (54:32):
Oh all right.
I'm probably gonna get a lot ofhate for this one, uh oh, but I
can't help it.
I love it.
Hey Mickey.
Yeah, yeah, you made the face, Ithink a lot of people are gonna
make, but I have always lovedthat song.
I've always loved the video, Ijust love it, and I never grew
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tired of it, which is crazybecause it's been whew.
All right.
So the song Hey Mickey is aplayful and flirtatious love
song about a girl's infatuationwith a boy named Mickey.
The song starts off with thegirl expressing her admiration
for Mickey and how he blows hermind with his fine looks and
charming personality.
She describes meeting him andbeing immediately drawn to him
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because of his unique style andphysical appearance.
As the song progresses, the girlreally reveals that she is so
smitten with Mickey that she iswilling to waste her time on him
and ignore all other men.
She sees no one else and isessentially blinded by Mickey's
charm.
She admits that even when helies to her, she believes him
(55:41):
because she is so infatuatedwith him.
What we are learning here isthat um the song is exactly what
it says.
I mean, there is no secretsurprise behind it.
Um although the next line is thesong takes a surprising turn
towards the end when the girldiscovers that Mickey is gay.
Despite this revelation, shefinds still finds him attractive
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and continues to express herlove for him.
The catchy chorus is repeatedthroughout the song and serves
as a testament to the girl'sfeelings for Mickey.
Overall, Hey Mickey is alight-hearted and fun song about
young love and the whirlwindemotions that come along with
it.
The lyrics showcase the girl'sobsession with Mickey and her
willingness to overlook anyflaws or mistakes he may have
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because of her deep affectionfor him.
That's it.
I didn't want to go too muchinto well, for one thing,
there's not too much to go into.
For another, I know a lot ofpeople hate that song.
I think it was probably thecheerleader dance moves in the
video that caught me.
Sometimes a music video can makeme love a song.
SPEAKER_06 (56:43):
So I have a that
song because my grandfather's
name was Mickey.
Mm-hmm.
Well, that's what everybodycalled him.
Um, so that song makes me thinkof him.
But other than that, and justonly because I was what?
Ten.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (57:00):
And and I'll I'll be
the first to admit it's a pretty
obnoxious song, but I don'tknow.
I just love it.
I mean, they play the death outof it.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (57:08):
That's part of the
problem.
To this day.
Yeah.
Because I was gonna do well.
I'm not gonna say, because Idon't know if you have it on
there.
Okay.
There was one that I was gonnado when I was like, that song is
I love it.
But I mean, they literally playit on every 80s hour ever.
SPEAKER_04 (57:27):
Well, we're six
songs in and we haven't picked
the same song.
I know yet.
SPEAKER_06 (57:30):
And I know you
didn't pick this one.
Unbelievable is a song writtenand performed by British band
EMF.
Oh.
SPEAKER_04 (57:39):
I did look at that
one.
Did you?
I really, really did.
I love that one.
It's got uh who does the O?
I'll tell you on a second.
SPEAKER_06 (57:47):
Okay, I know who it
is.
Originally appearing on theirdebut album, Schubert Dip, it
was released as a single in theUK in October of 1990, peaking
at number three on the UKsingles chart in December of 90.
It was the 30th best-sellingsingle of 1990 in the UK and top
10 hit in Belgian, Belgium,Germany, Ireland, Luxembourg,
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and the Netherlands, Norway,Spain, and Sweden.
In the U.S., Unbelievable hitnumber one on the Billboard Hot
100 and Cashbox Top 100 in 91.
The song was produced by RalphJessard and contains samples of
U.S.
comedian Andrew Dice Clay andperform performance poet Gline
Kane.
An accompanying music video wasdirected by Josh Taft, depicting
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the band performing on stage.
Ian Dench, the band's guitaristand primary songwriter, has
stated that the melody of thesong came into his head as he
was riding his bicycle whilethinking of a recent girlfriend
who had dumped him.
Dench had learned to playclassical guitar and also loved
the blues.
The guitar riff in the song goesfrom blues mode to flamenco
(58:52):
mode, like two conflicting sidesof his life.
And he said in an interview withThe Guardian, singer James
Atkins has suggestedincorporating influences from
Chicago House and DetroitTechno, but Dench went for
crossover indie dance music.
The band made a four-track demoand were invited to London by
the record labels.
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Instead, the band suggested thatthe label representatives
witness the bands perform live,the band performed live, in the
forest of Dean.
Staff from Virgin Island and EMIwanted to sign them and EMI won.
The O sample comes from arecording of U.S.
comedian Andrew Dice Clayreleased on Def Jam.
The band therefore needed tospeak to the Def Jam office in
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order to clear the sample.
They were flown to Los Angelesfor a meeting with EMI.
During the trip, Dench happenedto see Rick Rubin, founder of
Def Jam in a bar.
Dench spoke to Rubin aboutclearing the sample, to which
Rubin responded, Fax my officein the morning, and he cleared
the sample free.
Contrary to reported claims,including from the band
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themselves in the liner notesand elsewhere.
The chopped-up phrase, What thewas that?
Featured prominently in thechorus and throughout was not
sampled from a Black Pantherrally speech, but rather a
syncopated section of the spokenword song Silly Shit by Gyllen
Kane from his 1970 album, TheBlue Gorilla.
(01:00:18):
Unbelievable was released in uhOctober 22nd, 1990, as the first
single from the band's debutalbum.
The band drew inspiration fromAmerican hip-hop for their
fashion style using their firstadvanced to buy popper jackets,
like those worn by the membersof East 17.
In 2018, Bill Lamb fromAbout.com noted that the song
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mixed intoxicating rhythms,sweet high vocals from Lead
Simmer, lead singer James Akin,and rousing shout outs to storm
to the top of the pop charts.
In his review of Schubert Dip,all music editor Alex Henderson
described the song as soinsanely infectious, infectious,
remarking its dizzyinginfectiousness.
(01:01:04):
Oh my god, I can't tell.
SPEAKER_04 (01:01:06):
It's all that
champagne.
SPEAKER_06 (01:01:08):
I know.
Upon the release.
I usually I'm usually good withthe whiskey.
SPEAKER_04 (01:01:14):
But whiskey's much
easier.
SPEAKER_06 (01:01:17):
Oh, it's fake
whiskey.
Maybe it's the orange juice.
You know, I'm gonna be payingfor that tomorrow.
Upon the release.
Oh, I just said, oh no.
But upon the release, JDConsodyne from the Baltimore Sun
felt the group's materialappeals as much to the brain as
the body, so that songs such asUnbelievable end up danceable,
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hummable, and utterlyirresistible.
Larry Flick from Billboardmagazine declared it as a
insinuatingManchester-influenced rave.
Scratchy, neopsychedelic guitarriffs nicely contrast, tracks
hip-hop groove, promisingextensive exposure here at both
club and radio levels.
(01:02:01):
John Earls of Classic Pop calledit mighty.
Annette Petrusso from theMichigan Daily stated that the
boys from the Forest of Deanhave created an undeniably
perfect pop song with the ultrasimple, ultra catchy, and ultra
overplayed unbelievable.
(01:02:26):
Writing it's their first andit's crunchier than the
breakfast cereal.
Sex flavored bass, hoppitydrums, unfettered guitar, and a
shouting sample that might bestupid old Andrew Toyce Clay.
Unbelievable entered the top 10.
The music video was produced topromote the single, directed by
(01:02:48):
American music video directorJosh Taft.
Features the band performing onstage, received heavy rotation
on MTV Europe.
Uh was awarded one of BMI's popawards in 92, honoring the
songwriters, composers, andmusic publishers of the song.
It was ranked number 31 on VH1'sGreatest One Hit Wonders in
2002, number 98 on VH1's 100Greatest Songs of the 90s in
(01:03:12):
2007.
Number 12 on the biggest songsof the summer 90s.
And in 2020, Cleveland.comlisted it as number 41 in their
ranking of the best BillboardHot Number One Songs of the 90s.
In 2004, Billboard magazineranked it number 52 in their 100
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greatest jock jams of all time.
Wow.
Naming it Andrew Dice Clay'sGreatest Contribution to Polite
Society.
SPEAKER_05 (01:03:44):
Oh, what the fuck?
Was that yeah, that's an awesomesong.
SPEAKER_04 (01:03:52):
Yeah.
It's one of those you don'treally get tired of.
SPEAKER_06 (01:03:55):
Like that song
reminds me of the summer,
apparently of 1990.
Driving down Ocean City throughOcean City in my car.
Trying to be um at a curfew.
Because my parents were lame.
Yeah, I did too.
(01:04:17):
And in the summer, there's aboardwalk here where all the
kids go.
And it is 10 miles.
And it's not just a straight 10miles, it is 10 miles of lights
at literally every intersection.
Literally.
It will take you.
In the summertime, it can takeyou uh an hour to get those 10
(01:04:38):
miles.
And I had to make it home bymidnight.
And I in a Lincoln lights werein a Lincoln Continental.
SPEAKER_04 (01:04:47):
Yes.
Kind of hard to miss.
Blairing that.
All right.
This next one is a song that Ihaven't thought about probably
since my childhood.
Uh, but when I saw it, I wasjust like, oh my god.
I used to make my Barbies.
I would make music videos to thesong with my Barbies.
SPEAKER_06 (01:05:07):
That's fucking
hilarious.
SPEAKER_04 (01:05:08):
Yes.
Uh, so the song is I Wanna Be aCowboy.
I was gonna die.
I fucking love that cry.
Man, I had not thought of thatsong in years.
Um, so it featured Heidi Leah.
Um, I think it's Leah.
It's L E A.
(01:05:29):
If it was Leah, it would beL-E-E.
So it's not my fault if it's notLeah.
All right.
Uh it explores the desire foradventure, escapism, and the
aspirations of living a ruggedand wild lifestyle.
The lyrics depict a per depict aperson yearning to embody the
archetype of a cowboy and theircowgirl companion.
(01:05:50):
In the verses, the protagonistHeather's dancing.
SPEAKER_01 (01:05:53):
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (01:05:54):
Um, oh, hold on, my
thing just went really fast.
Um Dance break.
Uh in the verses, theprotagonist imagines himself,
themselves riding on the rangewearing a hat, boots, and dusty
saddle.
The mention of their horsetrigger adds to the imagery of a
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classic cowboy paying homage tothe famous horse of the Lone
Ranger.
The repeated stuttering in thelyrics can be seen as playful or
charming, adding a touch ofcharacter to the song.
You see, I stuttered throughthat sentence.
Good.
That was intentional.
Um the chorus reflects theprotagonist's longing for a
cowgirl to join them in theircowboy fantasy.
(01:06:37):
This desire for companionshipsuggests a romanticized view of
the cowboy lifestyle, aspiringto have a partner to share their
adventure with.
Um the repetition of the chorusemphasizes the protagonist's
strong desire to manifest theircowboy identity.
In verse two, a woman's voice isintroduced, expressing her
(01:06:57):
admiration and support for herman, Ted.
Um, every time I hear the nameTed, I know you've had to have
seen um Pineapple Express.
SPEAKER_06 (01:07:06):
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (01:07:07):
And he was the one
hanging out with the dirty cop
Rosie Press.
Hi, Ted.
Um, the mention of camping onthe prairie and hair being messy
and dirty portraits or portraysthe realities of the cowboy
(01:07:27):
lifestyle.
This contrasts with theromanticized version of cowboys
and highlights the idea thateven in reality, things can be
challenging and untidy.
The protagonist's desire to looklike a hero with a six gun at
his side and chewing tobaccoreflects the cultural imagery
associated with cowboys.
This further emphasizes thefantasy and escapism inherent in
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their desire.
The mention of Indians on thewar path represents the
conflicts and dangers thatcowboys historically faced,
emphasizing the excitement andadrenaline-inducing aspects of
the cowboy life.
The outro uh reiterates theprotagonist's name is Ted, and
humorously adds a reminder thatone day they will eventually
(01:08:13):
pass away, adding alight-hearted twist to the song.
Overall, I want to be a cowboyreflects the longing for
adventure romance and the desireto embody the iconic cowboy
persona.
It explores the idea of escapismand allure, stepping into a wild
and rugged lifestyle, even ifthe realm, even if only in the
realm of imagination.
(01:08:35):
Um so and scene.
Once again, two songs in a row.
I uh pick songs that justliterally mean what they say.
I mean, but it was a great song.
It is a great song.
Oh man, so good.
SPEAKER_06 (01:08:55):
They do play it a
lot.
Do they?
Yeah, I heard it a couple a fewtimes on those I love the oh and
actually this reminded me.
Did you see that MTV is ending?
No.
What?
They just announced it.
People are sick of pregnant teenand cheating.
SPEAKER_04 (01:09:19):
I forget how they
stated it, but it was it was
like they end their uh I betit's TLC that put them out of
business.
They outcrap TV'd them.
SPEAKER_06 (01:09:35):
Um to end MTV makes
a heartbreaking move to end five
music channels.
Uh we'll shut down MTV Music,MTV 80s, MTV 90s, Club MTV, and
MTV Live.
SPEAKER_04 (01:09:49):
Oh, so just actually
all of the ones who still play
videos and music.
Yep.
So they're gonna keep theirregular stupid MTV.
All the ridiculousness is onMTV, and I love that show.
SPEAKER_06 (01:10:02):
MTV Music, the
flagship music video
destination.
MTV 80s, home to beloved retrohits and nostalgic favors.
SPEAKER_04 (01:10:09):
I had that channel
for a while at one point.
I had some server that I hadthat and it was amazing.
SPEAKER_06 (01:10:15):
Uh yeah.
I we have a bunch of weird musicchannels that play.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_04 (01:10:18):
Yeah, I I've had
those weird music channels too,
but I had those offset MTVchannels, and they were really,
really awesome.
SPEAKER_06 (01:10:26):
But that was just I
think we have a BH1 too that
plays pop-up video.
Oh no.
Fucking love pop-up video.
I can watch pop-up videoforever.
Okay, my last one.
SPEAKER_01 (01:10:43):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_06 (01:10:45):
Okay, so this one is
because I had this album and I
probably pay played this song ahundred million times.
Ooh.
Uh-huh.
And uh I had the album album.
Um, because this was before Ihad the ability to have
cassettes.
Mm-hmm.
(01:11:05):
Um, Pac-Man Fever is a 1981novelty song.
SPEAKER_04 (01:11:11):
How did I not know
you were gonna do that song?
SPEAKER_06 (01:11:14):
By Buckner and
Garcia, capitalizing on the
video game craze of the early80s.
The song referencing the arcadegame Pac-Man peaked at number
nine on the Billboard Hot 100 inthe United States in March of
82.
This same month, it wascertified gold by the Recording
Industry Association of Americafor over 1 million units shipped
to retailers.
(01:11:34):
The single sold 1.2 millioncopies by the end of 82 and 2.5
million copies in total as of2008.
BH1 ranked it as number 98 ontheir 100 greatest hit wonders
of the 80s.
A follow-up release in May of82, do the Donkey Kong, another
novelty song referencingNintendo's Donkey Kong, just
(01:11:58):
missed the Bill Bart chart,ranking number 103.
This song was featured in theSouth Park episode, Splatty
Tomato, as well as the FamilyGuy episode, The D in Apartment
23, both aired in 2017.
The song is also referenced inthe Simpsons episode, A Tale of
Two Springfields.
Sheet music for the song showsCommon Time with a moderate
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tempo of 138 beats per minute.
Buckner and Garcia were in theAtlanta area in 1981 recording
TV jingles and other low-profilestudio work.
Uh, they were eating at arestaurant down the road in
Marietta, and they saw otherdiners swarming around a brand
new Pac-Man machine.
The duo had never heard of thegame before, but they waited
their turn and played it too,and ended up playing for two
(01:12:44):
hours straight.
With a line behind them.
After that, they decided towrite a novelty song about the
game.
Their manager shopped the songat radio stations nationwide,
but no one wanted to play it.
However, when they shopped itlocally, WSTR in Atlanta decided
to play it for fun on their showone morning.
The station was bombarded withcalls from listeners who begged
(01:13:06):
to hear it again and again.
This got the attention of CBSRecords as well as other
stations across the country, andthe single hit number nine on
the Billboard Heart chartsin '82.
Wow.
In 1998, the duo were asked torecord an unplugged version of
Pac-Man Fever exclusivelyexclusively for the syndicated
radio show Retro Rewind.
(01:13:28):
In 1999, a re-recorded versionof the album was released
independently by Buckner andGarcia, which was released
commercially through K-Tel in2002.
However, Buckner and Garciacould not obtain the original
master recording from Sony MusicEntertainment, so the duo was
forced to record newperformances of the song and
recreate a lot of the soundeffects, either digitally or
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musically.
In honor of the release of the2015 film Pixels, Jerry Buckner
and Danny Jones with Jace Halltook the vocals from Gary
Garcia's master recording andcreated a new version called
Pac-Man Fever Eat Em Up.
(01:14:17):
The song was released on thecompilation Dr.
Demento's Basement Tapes numberfour and Squeeze Box the
Complete Works of Al Yankovic.
And that album that I had hadthe Donkey Kong on it.
It had Pac-Man Fever.
It had um a Space Invader song.
It had um Berserk song.
But though the second song, thefirst song was Pac-Man Fever.
(01:14:39):
The second song was Froger.
The fucking Froger song.
Awesome.
It's awesome.
I don't know where you can getit.
I have not heard it since thatrecord went away.
Um, but if you ever, it's it'slike Frogger takes one step at a
time.
The way that he moves has noreason or rhyme.
(01:15:01):
It's a fucking amazing song.
And I looked for the name ofthat album and I could not find
it.
But I know it had the DonkeyKongs on, and and I know it had
a berserk song because my dad'sfavorite video game is Berserk.
But yeah, Pac-Man Paper.
SPEAKER_04 (01:15:18):
Yeah.
It's driving me crazy.
And I love that you said Dr.
Demento because I have a scriptin process for him.
Yes.
It's God, that show was amazing.
Um, yeah, that acoustic Pac-Manpaper.
That's what I got out of that.
SPEAKER_06 (01:15:36):
I love I love that.
I now I gotta find it all.
SPEAKER_04 (01:15:39):
It's like Johnny
Cash singing nine inch nail
songs.
SPEAKER_06 (01:15:42):
Everybody fucking
loves that.
unknown (01:15:44):
I don't.
SPEAKER_06 (01:15:44):
I'm sorry, Johnny, I
don't.
Yeah.
And I know that Trent said it'sJohnny's song now, but I don't
know, I don't like it.
Yeah.
I get it.
I get it.
SPEAKER_04 (01:15:56):
It's very it shows
the beauty and the lyrics of the
songs when they do it that way.
But the song is meant to makeyou angry, not feel pretty.
unknown (01:16:07):
I don't know.
SPEAKER_06 (01:16:08):
I mean, I get it
because Johnny Cash lived it.
And he lived it.
He knows that the I okay.
SPEAKER_04 (01:16:15):
Yep, yep.
Sorry, I didn't I didn'trealize.
I did a nerve.
Sorry.
SPEAKER_06 (01:16:20):
Get my ass kicked by
what is the Swifty version of
Johnny Cash's Cashies?
SPEAKER_04 (01:16:27):
Oh Lord, I almost
said blackies because he's the
man in black.
That is so inappropriate.
A little bit.
Yeah.
Um, anyway.
All right, so I have two moresongs, but I only did the one
extra just in case I needed it.
So this will be my last song.
Okay.
Another song that as I startedwith the theme, I love this
song.
I never grew tired of it, and Ilove hearing it nowadays, Steal
(01:16:51):
My Sunshine by Len.
Heather's so disappointed.
No, I thought it's fine.
I well, you don't like happypeppy songs.
I do not.
No.
I like Pac-Man Fever.
Yeah, but you love Pac-Man.
(01:17:12):
All right.
SPEAKER_06 (01:17:12):
I love a good video
game.
unknown (01:17:14):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (01:17:15):
Never.
I mean, I played Atari, but allright.
Uh, so this breezy but rathertrippy tune is built on a sample
of the disco hit More More Moreby the Andrea True Connection.
There is no Len in Len.
The name comes from one of theirfriends.
The group started out as theToronto brother and sister duo
(01:17:37):
of Mark and Sharon Costanzo.
They released two albums in thealternative rock vein before
adding three members for their1999 album You Can't Stop the
Bum Rush.
Steal My Sunshine was written byMark Costanzo with Greg Diamond,
uh, who wrote More More More.
(01:17:59):
Also getting a songwritercredit.
Lynn had a minor UK hit with thefollow-up Cryptic Souls Crew,
but in America and Canada, are aprototypical one-hit wonder.
Uh Mark Costanzo told Stereo Gumthe song story of the song.
I was at an outdoor electronicmusic festival up north like a
(01:18:22):
rave.
SPEAKER_05 (01:18:24):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (01:18:25):
And I just got
caught up in the night.
The song is about how I felt,and then it was exaggerated by
the fact that I'm sitting in themiddle of a field looking at the
stars about a thousand feet awayfrom the stage, watching
everybody dance at 3 a.m.
And I wrote part of it on my legand a lot of it on a napkin.
I would imagine there were someillegal substances involved in
(01:18:45):
that as well.
SPEAKER_01 (01:18:46):
No.
Get out.
SPEAKER_04 (01:18:50):
And then we were
hanging out at Brendan, uh,
Brendan Canning of Broken SocialScenes Place.
And Brendan ended up playingthat uh Andrea True Connection
record, and I just sampled itright then.
I looped it and I just tied thetwo together.
Steal My Sunshine first appearedin March 1999 on the soundtrack
(01:19:12):
of the movie Go, starring KatieHolmes.
Uh, it was included on Lim'salbum You Can't Stop the Bum
Rush in May and released as asingle in July.
It's a very summer song, but itdidn't become a hit until early
winter, charting at number ninein America on November 13th.
Lim were given a$150,000 budgetfor the music video.
(01:19:35):
They spent so much of it onalcohol that they broke the
hotel service elevator trying toload it up all delicacy.
Wow.
Now that does sound like us.
Not anymore.
But we did we have a we have ahotel story we are probably
never gonna share.
(01:19:55):
Um that was a bad night.
All the way around.
I'm still angry at our friendfor that.
On the 2011 Parks and Recreationepisode, Camping, Amy Polar's
character plays the song whilestruggling to come up with the
big idea uh to follow up hersuccessful harvest festival.
I'm listening to Steal MySunshine by Lynn, she says, a
(01:20:16):
one-hit wonder just like me.
Uh the song was also used inCold Case, Mr.
Robot, South Park, and FutureMan.
And that's it for One HitWonders.
That's it for our one hitwonders on our one year
anniversary.
One year versary.
Good.
We're so proud of us.
SPEAKER_06 (01:20:36):
Me too.
SPEAKER_04 (01:20:37):
Not only did we make
the year, but we were
consistent.
Like we released an episodeevery week, no excuses, and it's
not like every week was justlike, hey, just show up and do
it.
Like we've we've had ourconflicts and things come up.
SPEAKER_06 (01:20:53):
Issues here and
issues there.
SPEAKER_04 (01:20:55):
But we've made sure
to make it work and that it
comes out on Friday, and the thechampagne is getting to me, and
I can't stop belching right now.
I'm trying not to be gross.
SPEAKER_06 (01:21:05):
I know because we
still have two commercials to oh
lord.
SPEAKER_04 (01:21:08):
I know it.
Well, at least one of them's analcohol commercial.
Maybe the belching will comeback.
SPEAKER_06 (01:21:12):
But you already
heard it because I would have
already put it in.
I hope you liked it.
It's very fucking funny.
It is well, that was awesome.
What a great what a great oneyear anniversary that was.
It's so crazy.
I know.
I still can't believe it.
Um, so we've gone on for an hourand a half almost.
SPEAKER_04 (01:21:34):
So I will say we
should have done a long one.
That's good.
SPEAKER_06 (01:21:38):
Um, thank you to
everyone who has listened to us
over the year.
Yeah, thank you so much.
We do appreciate it.
Um, we have had fun.
We have.
We hope you have had fun.
Uh you can like, share, rate,review.
Please.
Tell your friends to like,share, rate, review.
(01:21:59):
Please.
You can find us where you listento the podcasts.
You can follow us on all thesocials at like whatever bottle.
You can send an email statingwhat your favorite one hit
wonder is.
Or I'm giving you a choice thisweek.
(01:22:19):
Oh.
Or what episode is yourfavorite.
Because that would be fun.
SPEAKER_04 (01:22:24):
I would love to hear
some feedback on that.
SPEAKER_06 (01:22:26):
Yeah.
So let us know.
Send that email tolikewhateverpod at gmail.com or
don't like whatever.
Whatever.
Bye.
SPEAKER_00 (01:22:39):
We'll say you bad is
by whatever.