Countdown To Chaos

Have you ever wondered how a simple trip to the grocery store could turn into a holiday adventure? Join Nicole and Heather as they share their Christmas tales with a sprinkle of humor and nostalgia. While Heather plans to enjoy a peaceful day cooking in her pajamas, Nicole's hectic week includes last-minute shopping escapades. A hilarious hot water mishap that ends with a family rescue. Through their festive chatter, they remind us that the chaos of holiday preparations often leads to the most treasured memories.

Remember the Y2K buzz? Nicole and Heather take you back to when the world collectively held its breath, fearing computers would misread the year 2000 as 1900. Their journey through the so-called Y2K crisis lightens the mood with quirky glitches and survivalist antics, including how media and some personalities capitalized on the fear. With anecdotes of a world bracing for chaos that never quite materialized, they reflect on the real efforts behind the scenes to keep us moving forward into the new millennium.

As the episode wraps up, Nicole and Heather get whimsical, imagining a Grinch-inspired holiday full of beloved characters and classic films. From the thrill of potential disasters to the joy of new holiday traditions, this episode promises a hearty mix of laughter, nostalgia, and reflection. Tune in for a nostalgic ride, and perhaps you'll find yourself inspired to create some unconventional holiday traditions of your own. #y2k #genx #90s #computer

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Two best friends.
We're talking the past, frommistakes to arcades.
We're having a blast.
Teenage dreams, neon screens,it was all rad and no one knew
me Like you know.
It's like whatever.
Together forever.
We've never done this, everLaughing and sharing our stories
.
Clever, we'll take you back.

(00:25):
It's Like Whatever.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Welcome to Like Whatever a podcast for, by and
about Gen X.
I'm Nicole and this is my BFF,heather.
Bah humbug, so we are recordingon Christmasmas eve it is
christmas eve it is uh.
So hopefully, when you hearthis, uh, you will have had a

(00:53):
nice holiday and santa broughtyou everything that you wanted.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yep um, he's bringing me everything I want, which is
spending the day by myselfPerfect.
I know I'm so excited.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Joe has to work.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
I'm home alone.
It's the best Christmas everyou had Instacart drop off.
I had Instacart drop off food.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
I'll be making myself dinner.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
I'm excited for it.
It's pretty perfect.
It's like the greatest thingever.
Everybody gets so bent out ofshape about it too.
They're like how could youspend Christmas alone?
Because that's all I want to dois spend aloneness.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
I just want to be alone.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Leave me the fuck alone.
If I'm not sad, trust me.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Oh, do you want to come have dinner?
No, no, I don't I want to comehave dinner.
No, no, I don't.
I want to stay home by myselfand cook my own turkey in my own
oven, in my pajamas yeah, whichI wore my pigeon.
Today was pajama day at work,nice I wore my my any chance I
get to wear pajamas and leavethe house I'm gonna take it.

(02:01):
What'd you do this week?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
um, not a whole lot, just worked um.
The governor gave stateemployees off today, so nice
yesterday was my last day ofwork and I don't go back until
after the new year, so luckybitch.
Yeah, it's.
Sometimes it's good to be astate employee.
Yeah, I guess, um, doing abunch of last minute shopping.

(02:28):
This lady yeah, sometimes it'sgood to be a state employee.
Yeah, I guess, doing a bunch oflast-minute shopping.
This lady cracked me up.
I was in Food Lion and therewere two fast lanes.
There were two side-by-side andthe lines were kind of merged.
I wasn't really sure, right,and so like the one line moves.
So I asked her if she wouldlike to go up there and she just
calmly looked at me and shookher head no, and she was like

(02:51):
I'm getting a break from my fourchildren right now.
I was like oh, the longer theline, the better she's like yes,
I get that.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
I was like okay, I get that.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
I was like okay.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
I get that.
I finished my shopping theother day.
I did it all online.
I cheated, oh no, I did go toTJ Maxx the other day.
I got a couple of things.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, it was fun being out today.
A lot of families out inmatching pajamas, it was cute.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Sure, some people looked like they were having fun
.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Not everybody, no not everyone, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
I have a Red Nurse on my route and yesterday when I
went, I was like hey, I knew howlate they were going to.
It wouldn't have mattered ifthey were open how late today,
but I figured I would just askbecause I knew I would be there
before 12.
And I was like oh, what timeare you closing?
And they're like oh, don'tworry about stopping by.
And I was like oh, fuckingthank.
God, because the thought ofgoing into this parking lot and

(03:54):
into the store even to dropsomething off is just maddening.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
That was nice of them , yes.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
And the bank also told me not to worry about it
today.
So they said don't worry aboutit, we'll see after Christmas.
And I was like that's awesome,I know.
I had some really cool, coolbusinesses on my route, so it's
been like stupid cold.
Oh my gosh, Like it stayed warmforever, and now we didn't get

(04:23):
fall, no, and then Okay, so it'snot as cold as, like you know,
wisconsin or places where itactually gets cold, but it's
cold for here, and so I have towork outside, you know, and I
was really really cold onSaturday.
I mean like just couldn't feelmy fingers, anything, and I was
so looking forward to gettinghome and taking a hot-ass shower

(04:47):
.
And on my way I get a text frommy husband that was like hey,
we don't have any hot water, andI was like I hate my life.
I know that's.
All I was thinking about washow hot, because our shower gets
like ridiculously hot.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
You're crazy, I don't take hot showers.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Oh, I have to take a hot shower, and I will be in
there until the water runs cold,and so then we didn't have hot
water on Sunday either.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
It's no wonder your hot water heater broke.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
That's probably why because I just run the hell out
of it.
And then yesterday, so my dadcame and fixed it Nice, because
he's handy that way Nice.
And so we had.
Here's what I don't get.
Okay, just tell me.
This just makes no sense,because it made no sense to me.
Okay, so we had hot water.

(05:37):
Okay, but for some reasonearlier in the day, okay, when I
left for work yesterday morning, we had water, because I
brushed my teeth and I went tothe bathroom and I filled the
dog's bowl, so I know we hadwater, right.
And then I left.
And then I get a text in themiddle of the day that says your
dad is here, but now we have nowater at all.

(05:57):
And I'm like, wait, but therewas water this morning.
And then I get a text laterthat says, okay, we have hot
water again.
And I was like, yes, I'm gonnahave a hot ass shower.
And then I get a text laterthat says, okay, we have hot
water again.
And I was like, yes, I'm gonnahave a hot ash.
And then it was, but we don'thave cold water.
And I was like, how is that athing?
I?
So I was like I don't what no,that's not possible because if

(06:17):
you have hot water, then coldwater goes.
I know how water heaters workit's like they shut off a valve
somewhere no, because my dad andI did it.
And so I get home and I'm, andhe's there and he's like okay, I
took a hot shower, we have hotwater, it'll be good for you,
but I have.
And he had all the faucets inthe house, all the other faucets

(06:41):
in the house, open and nothingwas coming out of any of them,
none of them.
But the toilet flushed andrefilled and the shower worked.
And it wasn't just hot asswater that came out of the
shower, like it was a, an equalamount.
So I don't understand how, butthen this morning when I got up,
we had all water.

(07:01):
So don't, I have no idea whathappened, but I do know that I
took a hot ass shower last nightand then there was water this
morning.
But the poor bird wanted totake a bath because every time
we got near it was like so thewater was dripping.
Because we left it on what night?
Saturday night, yes, saturdaynight.

(07:23):
We let it run, no Friday.
Saturday night, we let it runno Friday.
We've been letting it run sinceFriday.
We let it run Friday drip allnight.
And then we let it run Saturday, and then I was going to let it
run all Sunday, just so itdidn't freeze and then we didn't
have water.
I don't know, I don't know howthat happens.
Joe was like I don't know ifit's because those pipes run

(07:44):
through the attic and there'slike a chunk of ice in there,
but some places.
But the bathroom sink does nothave any water, but the toilet
and the shower, which are likefive feet away from each other
all have water, so this makes nosense.
I don't know what the hell, butthis morning we had all kinds of

(08:05):
water I can't wait to see whatyou have tomorrow hey, you knows
, it might be all filled withwater.
I might have a pool and notknow about it.
So I don't know what the hellhappened, but the poor bird
didn't get her bath, oh I know.
And now she's.
She's gonna be really pissedoff today because I don't let
her out.
I get home so late, late onTuesdays from us recording.

(08:28):
Nicole lives like an hour awayfrom me so it takes me an hour
to get home and I don't let herout and she gets very upset
about oh and then?
What day was it?
One of the days we didn't havewater.
We were changing the filter forthe heater and the thing was

(08:49):
open because we didn't get afilter yet.
We forgot about the filter.
So we took the old filter outand we were like, oh, we'll put
another one in there.
But it was open and it didn'tdawn on me until the bird had
been out for like an hour and ahalf and she noticed it and I
was like, what are you lookingat, oh fuck.
And I and a half and shenoticed it and and I was like
what are you looking at, oh fuck.
And I had to run over and I'mlike trying to shut the thing
because she was looking at itlike I am out of here, bitch.

(09:10):
So I got it shut and so thebird did not escape thank god,
you would have been devastated Iwould have.
I love that stupid ass littlebird.
I have a caique.
I know nobody has ever heard ofit.
They're also calledwhite-bellied parrots or
black-legged parrots and she'sso cute and she's hilarious.

(09:31):
But these are not a beginnerbird and I am a beginner bird
owner and she bites the shit outof me and I was reading last
night, I was looking into, I wasreading more up on it.
Now I'll do the research on it.
Yeah, I did the research before.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
I know you did.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
But so one of the things was like are they nippy?
And it was like I and they caninflict a dangerous bite.
And I was like no shit, becauseI have right now Currently she
bit in between my finger, butshe doesn't mean it.
I know that's what I say aboutmy cats too.

(10:14):
When they bite me.
The problem is she's only three, so it's a play bite.
And when I was reading aboutwhether or not I should get her
a little friend I can't afford alittle friend because these
birds are stupid expensive, butI got mine for free.
I didn't pay that much for it.
I was looking into getting afriend and they said don't get

(10:35):
any other kind of bird otherthan a caique because they play
so rough that they can reallyseriously injure another bird.
And if you watch the videos,they like tumble around on the
floor together and when sheplays she is very rough when she
plays.
And then she was trying to giveme kisses and she was making
the kissy noise and I was likeno, because you're just gonna
bite my face.
I do not want to have my facebit right now.

(10:57):
But yeah, so, um, that's what Idid.
I had to save my bird fromescaping out into the wild.
I don't think she would havedone very well, because I think
they're from the Amazon Wickedcold, not oh.
And you know what else I didthis week?
Oh, this is horrible.
Speaking of birds, I wasdelivering in my apartments and

(11:20):
I come out of the one apartmentand I see a hawk fly down.
This is the second day in a rowthat I saw a hawk fly out of
nowhere.
One came straight across mywindshield and I was like oh
shit.
So I go out and there's a hawkand it's like diving down in the
parking lot and I was like, ohshit, what's that hawk?
And then I see featherseverywhere and I was like oh no,
because when I had drove byearlier I saw a pigeon and I

(11:42):
thought it was weird.
I never see pigeons there and Iwas like I wonder if that's
somebody's racing pigeon,because it was just sitting kind
of not doing anything Right.
So I go over to look and it infact the hawk does, did have the
pigeon.
The pigeon got away and thepigeon goes under a car and then

(12:06):
the hawk flies away and youknow.
I probably would be faster atdelivering if I didn't fuck
around with birds all day.
So the hawk takes off and is ina house across the street, is
up on the on the roof and I waslike, oh shit, so I'm going to
look for this pigeon, like I'mgoing to do something for it.
But I was actually trying tosee if it had a band or anything
on it, in case it wassomebody's pigeon.
So i'm'm trying to find it,trying to find it, and it's

(12:26):
dodging underneath cars and I'mlooking and then finally it pops
out from under a car and ittakes off flying and then the
hawk went after it.
So I think I made the situationworse.
And then I was like I'm justgoing to get in the truck
because either I just killedthat pigeon or I made that
hawk's day.
I don't really know what.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
I mean it's the circle of life.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
I didn't see either of them.
And there were trees.
Maybe it had gotten to thetrees without the hawk getting
it, but I don't.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, we had a hawk eat a squirrel out in our
backyard the other day.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
That was fun.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Because I feed the squirrels.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Oh no.
So I was a little devastated.
I bet that's sad.
It's so sad.
I mean I get it, it's thecircle of life, but I don't want
to have to know about it like Iget it, a hamburger is a cow
and I like cows, but I don'twant to know how it became a
hamburger right, exactly I justwant to pretend like it's not
it's like if wildlife could justkeep it a little more private,

(13:23):
right like what are you doingout in the middle of nowhere,
eating pigeons and shit?
That's just wrong.
Anyway, all right, so let'sfuck around and find out about
Y2K.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
I'm so excited Because I did not read the
script this week and I hearthere's a lot of really cool
stuff in here and I'm makingmost of it up and I love this.
I'm going to be a little bitembarrassed by the stuff I share
about myself today but, it'stoo relevant to the story to not

(14:01):
share so my sources wereBritannicacom, siedu and
HowToGeekcom.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
So I did actually learn a lot about Y2K.
I thought, much like everybodyelse, it was just a big like it
was all this fuss and much adoabout nothing, and then it came
and went and nothing, no planesdropped out of the sky, nothing
bad happened.
So it was like, well, that wasa waste of my ear, right 25.
And it's actually been, if youcan believe this one, because

(14:33):
when I look, because I was like,oh, I should do Y2K because
this episode airs right beforethe new year, that's cool.
But then dawned on me it hasbeen 25 years, 25 years, so
perfect timing.
So 25 years ago, the apocalypsewas looming.
Yes, it was.
Many computer programs,especially those written in the

(14:55):
early days of computers, weredesigned to abbreviate four
digit years as two digits inorder to save memory.
Four-digit years as two digitsin order to save memory.
So when the year 2000 happens,they were afraid that it would
be unable to recognize the 00 as2000 and interpret it to mean

(15:16):
1900, thus failing to operate.
Also, a lot of software did nottake into account that the year
2000 was a leap year, and therewas like a whole lot of stuff I
didn't understand about how theyincorporate leap years into
computer programming.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Oh yeah, so it's not, I didn't know about that, yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
I didn't either, and it made it was like, oh.
And then I tried to read it andI was like okay, that's not
going to stick anywhere.
It needs to stick, so we'lljust move on.
I'm just going to tell you thatit's a problem.
It has to be programmed inthere.
It was feared that somecomputers might fail on

(15:53):
September 9th 1999, 9-9-99,because early programmers often
used a series of nines toindicate the end of a program.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
I remember that too.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yes, that was another apocalypse that didn't happen.
That did not happen.
The most at risk were mainframecomputers, of course, like so,
insurance, banks, utilities,many devices containing computer
chips, ranging from elevatorsto temperature control systems,
and commercial buildings tomedical equipment.
They were all believed to be atrisk, which you know that's

(16:24):
going to be a problem, that's abad thing.
Yeah, the world's going to shutdown.
Okay, so they knew this wasgoing to be a problem in 1984 in
a book called Computers inCrisis, and then they reissued
the article in a book called theYear 2000 Computing Crisis.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
She's taking pictures of me, me, and that's not right
as far as recorded.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
now you got me fucked up.
So computer world in 1993 had athree-page doomsday 2000
article and they said that thenew york times called it the
information age equivalent ofthe midnight ride of Paul Revere
, because everybody was.
I mean not in 93, yet Nobodywas freaking, they were.
All computer programmers werefreaking out, right, because

(17:11):
they knew this was going to be aproblem in the 80s, right?
The acronym Y2K has beenattributed to Massachusetts
programmer David Eddy that hesent in an email he sent in 1995
.
People were calling it cdc,century date change, f-a-d-l

(17:32):
faulty date logic fall.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
yeah, but I don't know no, you said that exactly
right, I know, but where?

Speaker 3 (17:37):
did the other a come f-a-d-l.
There's no other a, it's justfdl oh no, I noticed that too.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
That's weird, I don't know.
They left the A out.
Fdl must have stood forsomething else.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, I guess.
But Y2K, just you know, soundedbetter.
A Y2K preparedness surveycommissioned in 98 showed that
among 13 economic sectorsstudied in the United States,
government was the least readyfor Y2K.
Shocker, I know.
So in October of 98, billClinton signed the Year 2000

(18:09):
Information and ReadinessDisclosure Act.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
If I could interrupt, there for a second Shout out to
Bill Clinton Was in thehospital.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
He got out.
He did get out yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
And I said Jimmy Carter was going to outlive
everybody.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
And I said Jimmy Carter was going to outlive
everybody.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
The law was designed to encourage American companies
to share Y2K data by offeringthem limited liability
protection for sharinginformation about Y2K products,
methods and best practices.
So basically they were like wedon't know what to do.
So if Elon Musk had been around, they would have been like hey,

(18:53):
elon, we're going to need yourbrain for a minute.
And so they private companieswere also working on it.
So because the world was notready, in mid-December of 98,
the UN convened its firstinternational conference on Y2K
in an attempt to shareinformation in crisis management
efforts and establish theInternational Y2K Corporation
Center based in Washington DC.
$300 to $600 billion were spentworldwide, the $100 billion in

(19:18):
the United States alone.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
For something that never happened Fixing this
problem.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Fixing it, fixing the problem See and that's see,
we'll get there.
Oh sorry, how was it fixed?
Well, the obvious way to do itwas to expand the date to four
digits.
Right, but that was going tocost a lot of money due to
reasons.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
I'm not smart enough to understand End of the world,
spend a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Well, yeah, Well I guess it was for, like, smaller
entities.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Oh, they wouldn't have been able to afford they
wouldn't, have been able tospend their money.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Right, but I don't.
There was a lot of.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
There is a lot of computer stuff on this that I
was like I don't get that, butwe'll share it for those of you
that do understand it.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, it was like a lot of different anyway.
Um, another way to fix it wasthat month values can be higher
than 12, but two digit twodigits can hold values up to 99,
so you could use the monthvalue as a flag, and this is the
one that involved a whole bunchof math that I did not
understand, and it was like Iwas reading Chinese.

(20:27):
I don't know what any of thosemonths meant.
I don't know.
It didn't make it, it didn'teven like look like it made any
sense to me.
I said fuck that shit.
I'll just tell you that that'swhat happened.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
And you can look it up.
If you're interested, you cando the math on your own time.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Some removed the month, so instead of month,
month, day, day, year, year, itwas day day day, so day of the
year, one to 365.
C century year year obviouslythe year.
Year year obviously the year.
Right then this one isinteresting.
It's pivot years.
So if all of your existing datawas newer than 1921, then you

(21:12):
could use 1920 as a pivot year.
Any dates between 00 and 20 weretaken to mean 2000 to 2020.
Anything from 21 to 99 meant1921 to 1999.
And that is what a lot ofplaces went with, like, just
pretend nothing happened before1921, so that when the year 2000

(21:36):
rolls around, up to 2020, 2020,you know.
So that's foreshadowing.
So the doom spread throughmedia outlets, of course, and it
added to the overall fear ofmajor system failures.
Monarch home video released oneof the few y2k themed products

(22:02):
with their 1999 one-hour familysurvival guide video.
Actor Leonard Nimoy narratedthe show and, in a slow,
controlled voice, described thedisasters the world was about to
face.
I watched 15 minutes of ityesterday.
That's as far as I could get.
I know I love Leonard Nimoy,but it goes on about Atlantis

(22:26):
and ancient revelations, andthen it just tells you all the
ways you're going to die.
It is epic, but it was an hourlong.
I was like I can't.
I'm sorry, leonard, I'm sorryMr Spock, but I can't.
I can't with you right now it'stoo much with your ancient

(22:48):
Atlantis.
I mean, okay, it's a computernot is exciting.
This is the part I can't waitfor.
A variety of fringe groups andindividuals, such as those with
some fundamentalist religiousorganizations, survivalist cults

(23:10):
, antisocial movements,self-sufficiency enthusiasts and
those attracted to conspiracytheories, called attention to
Y2K fears and claimed that theyprovided evidence for their
respective theories,end-of-the-world scenarios and
apocalyptic themes.
The interest in the survivalistmovement peaked in 1999 in its

(23:32):
second wave for that decade,triggered by Y2K fears.
In the time before, extensiveefforts were made to rewrite
computer programming codes tomitigate the problem.
To rewrite computer programmingcodes to mitigate the problem,
some people anticipatedworldwide power outages, food
and gasoline shortages and otheremergencies.
They raised the alarm becausethey thought Y2K code fixes were

(23:57):
not being made quickly enough.
While a range of authorsresponded to the wave of concern
, two of the mostsurvival-focused texts to emerge
were Boston Post on Y2K in 1998, and the Hippie Survival Guide
to Y2K.
So this is where we're going to.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
So yeah, when you said the fringe group religious
organization, survivalist cult,antisocial, self-sufficient
enthusiast yes to all of those.
Yes, so this was, in my pastlife, my first marriage.
So, yeah, Anyway, I was a partof all of this.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
She was Wait.
Can I first yes?
Anything to save me fromhappening.
I have known Nicole since 1992.
Yes, I think I have seen Nicolewithout makeup five times in
those years.
I think I have seen her withouther hair done zero times and

(25:08):
she lived with me for like fourmonths, so continue.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Okay, so it doesn't even matter.
We had this group of friendsand we were preparing for Y2K.
I'm pretty sure we prepared forthe end of the Mayan calendar
too.
Yeah, anyway, mayan calendartoo, anyway.

(25:39):
So we for a couple years werestockpiling freeze-dried food,
canned goods, gas masks,electric or not electric, the
foil, blankets, tents.
And then part of our groupbought a mountain in West
Virginia, like the wholemountain, a very, very rugged

(26:01):
wilderness, like you had tocross a creek to get to the spot
where you could camp, and wewent down there frequently,
setting up latrines, and I thinkwe ended up with yurts at some
point and cooking, like it.
Just, I mean, the only I willsay it was it was really cool

(26:27):
because you would go like farout in the woods and bathe in
the Creek and like there'ssomething about like just
bathing naked out in the creek,although I was in West Virginia,
so of course, the Appalachia.
Yeah, what's?
The movie Deliverance is in myhead nonstop, like I'm certain

(26:48):
some hillbillies are going tocome take me away If you didn't
see a Yeti or a Bigfoot orwhatever they call them in
Appalachia.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
I don't think that they're-.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
I saw absolutely nothing like that.
No Bigfoot, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean we had escape routeplans like map paper maps with
it mapped out.
If shit goes down and we'restill in Delaware where we have
to go, where we're going to haveto cross water like we.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
I don't think bridges were going to fall down.
I don't think computerprogrammed bridges.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
No, there was going to be military at the bridges.
See, every time we thought ofeverything.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Every time she would talk about this I'd be like uh
huh sure sure you're going to golive in the middle of the woods
with.
We thought of everything.
Every time she would talk aboutthis, I'd be like uh-huh, sure,
Sure, you're going to go livein the middle of the woods with
no hairdryer and no makeup.
Okay.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
I didn't want to.
I was always really, really,really hoping none of that stuff
would happen.
So, although I never reallythought that any of it would but
I had to play along becausethat was the relationship that I
was in at the time and you hada kid I did yeah, yeah, and we
took him there too.
Poor kid, I know.

(28:04):
Yeah, if it would have justbeen like camping on a private
mountain in West Virginia, itwould have been pretty cool.
Yeah, like it really was neatand I love to cook like over a
campfire, because I did a lot ofcamping in my younger days and
there was a guy at the top ofthe mountain that owned like the
other part and he had a freshtrout stream or pond or whatever

(28:26):
.
So he'd bring us down freshtrout and I'd clean them and
cook them on the campfire.
Yeah, I was always really goodat breakfast too.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Pioneer girl.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
I can do it all.
You know what?

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Hey, you can do a winged eyeliner and you can camp
on.
You can cook trout on acampfire.
Hell yeah, that's all you needfor Y2K yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
So, yeah, that's my, that's my embarrassing story.
I was really, really, reallywrapped up in this, although I
didn't really believe in any ofit.
It's just the situation I wasin at the time.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yeah, it was pretty entertaining.
And then when she said, oh, wegot this mountain, I was like,
oh for the love.
I mean, come on, okay, and youcan come too.
I good, I'm good, I'm gonnastay here.
I'll deal with whatever zombiething happens here, let's be

(29:22):
fine.
If it gets real bad, I'll justgo drown in the ocean yeah, that
would have been a way betteroption than all the shit I went
through all this because thatwas like huge.
The preppers then were just likethere was like every tv show
was like preppers this andpreppers that and they had like
the buckets you could buy andlike all this shit.

(29:44):
That was prepper crazy andbuild a bunker and you know all
that, all this craziness in yourgo bag.
You had to carry a bag with youeverywhere you went in case
shit got real and then youburied buckets everywhere At
meeting points.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
We had meeting points if we all had to leave and, you
know, try to get there.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Let me tell you how I do not want to be alive in a
world where preppers get to beright yes, I agree with that, a
trillion percent I do not wantto be in a society without cable
I am not built to be asurvivalist no, I'm not it's a

(30:25):
lot of work.
You know there's no downtime youwatch all these like I survived
and like I was in a plane crashand I lived in the Amazon,
hooked to a tree, for six months.
I don't possess the will tolive like that.
I do not.
I would definitely.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
I mean, the one that really gets me is mountain
climbers.
Like what is wrong with you, Iknow.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Like on Mount Everest , there's all these dead bodies
you have to walk past.
They're just frozen in time.
Why?
Just to say you did it.
Okay, good for you.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Like who cares?
So you got to tell like 20people you did it and no, none
of them cared.
No, Because you're probablythat guy that does like CrossFit
too.
Oh, when I was, I did thesummit of Mount good for you,
shut up.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
No one cares why it's cold.
Do you know what I've done?
I've been in a plane, flew overit big deal yeah there you go,
I would I wrote in.
I've seen pictures of it yeah,I wrote in a tube over top of it
.
Yeah, I agree.
So okay, other than preppers.
Then we have my favorite, thereverend jerry falwell.

(31:30):
Yes, he suggested that y2kwould be the confirmation of the
christian.
Then we have my favorite, theReverend Jerry Falwell.
Yes, he suggested that Y2Kwould be the confirmation of the
Christian prophecy.
Oh come on yes, god's instrumentto shake this nation, to humble
this nation.
The Y2K crisis might incite aworldwide revival that would
lead to the rapture of thechurch.
Can I stop you there for asecond?

(31:51):
You sure can.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
There is a commercial have you seen it?
With the old minister.
Dude, that's like um, you know,god loves you and jesus, and
blah, blah, blah and and saythis prayer with me.
And then he like says a prayer,no.
And then he's like now callthis number and I'm like that
shit pisses me off, because youknow what.

(32:13):
It's the old people on socialsecurity that are calling and
giving this bitch who hasprobably worth billions of
dollars don't even like.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
You know how I feel about I have a.
My mother-in-law is that person.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, so she will yes , it's, it's just so shitty.
She will give everything shehas to and people wonder why
we're not christian.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
I, it's, it's look, don't get me wrong.
If it's your bag, that's fine,but these people that go like
way over the edge, yeah and I'mnot knocking all christians.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Like my um assistant at work, miss ruth, who I adore,
is a very Christian woman, likeGod-fearing, and when she says
she's going to pray for me, thatmeans something to me.
Because she means it, I'll takewhatever you can get me.
Typically, when people say aprayer or something, I don't bow

(33:08):
my head and close my eyes.
I mean I'm not rude about it,but I just.
But we had our work lunch andMiss Ruth did the blessing.
I dropped my head and closed myeyes so fast and I said amen
when she was done.
But I love that woman and sheis a true Christian woman, like
she's a good, good person.
So I am not knocking allChristians, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
I have a coworker that he is a God-fearing man and
he gives me a hug every singlesolitary day and I'm pretty sure
he's trying to save my soul.
Oh, and I love him.
He is the best, but I don'tthink it's going to work.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Does he know?
You don't have a soul to save.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
I think that's why he's.
I don't think he knows like.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
That's why he's so drawn to it.
He's like it's so dark that oneneeds to be saved, but yeah
everybody, just everybody, andyou know.
But he means it with the bestof intentions, you know, and
with love in his heart.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Hey, if you want to pray, he tells me all the time
we prayed for you this weekend.
I can, I'll take the prayer,take the prayer absolutely.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
and if, when I die and there is the pearly gates,
I'm hoping that he is standingthere waiting and it's like that
one yep, that's the one I chose.
Yeah, so you said it was a plusone he does, and I just it.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
It's funny to me and it's funny to everybody else,
because you know, I look the wayI look and he just loves me.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Sounds like a good name, oh he loves me.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Good, um.
So back to mr falwell.
Yeah, he, he was.
He said you know you have to to.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
He encouraged food hoarding, taking lessons in
self-sufficiency and weaponsstockpiling, and you know and I
wonder how much of a cut he gotfor oh I'm sure that these
companies that he was yeah,their commercials probably ran
during his tv shows and I'm surehe had his own piece of that

(35:05):
pie that he was yeah no doubt Idon't think anything.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Jerry falwell does is above the goodness of his heart
.
No I don't think he's trying tohelp you.
Get, he's not going to help youwhen, anyway, um, the chicago
tribune reported that some largefundamentalist churches,
motivated by y2k, were the sitesfor flea markets and the sale

(35:31):
of a paraphernalia designed tohelp people survive a social
order crisis, ranging from goldcoins to wood-burning stoves.
Yeah, and here's like so okay,I get it, there won't be any
money.
I mean, there still would bepaper money, because it was only
$2,000.
So we hadn't completelyswitched over to what like

(35:53):
nowadays.
Yeah, it's going to be aproblem because I can't.
If I don't have my phone, Idon't know how much money I have
, I can't get to it, I don't andit's all just.
And now money is just numbersthat move from one account to
another.
It's nothing, it doesn't meananything anymore.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
I mean, you can move money.
So easy.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
But I mean, then it was paper like I don't.
And why is gold?
So you can get fucking goldanywhere yeah, but it's always
been.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
I know why always.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
I mean nowadays you can get cold gold and it's
everywhere.
Like why is it so valuable?
Um, it's ugly too, I don't know.
Yellow gold is horrible, I know.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Platinum is where it's at.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
That's right, I'm going to get silver.
See what happens.
So yeah, so many of them usedY2K to promote a political
agenda in which the downfall ofthe government was a desired
outcome in order to usher inChrist's reign.

(36:59):
The cold truth is thatpreaching chaos is profitable,
and calm doesn't sell many tapesor books.
Y2k fears were describeddramatically by a New
Zealand-based Christianprophetic author and preacher,
barry Smith, in his publicationI Spy With my Little Eye that's
clever when he dedicated anentire chapter to Y2K.

(37:26):
But most people didn't thinkthat it was going to be the
rapture.
You know Most people.
So it became clear that leadersof these fringe groups and
churches had manufactured fearsof the apocalypse to manipulate
their followers' intra-dramaticsense of mass repentance and
renewed commitment to theirgroups, as well as using

(37:47):
additional giving of fundsShocker, I know.
Using additional giving offunds Shocker, I know.
Christian leader ColonelStringer and his commentary
published.
Fear Creating Writers sold over45 million books citing every
conceivable catastrophe, fromCivil War, planes dropping from

(38:08):
the sky to the end of thecivilized world as we know it.
Reputable preachers wereadvocating food storage and a
head for the cave mentality.
But no banks failed, no planescrashed, no wars, no civil war.
None of these prophets of gloomand doom ever materialized.

(38:29):
In case you didn't remember, itdidn't happen.
Jesus did not come.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Yeah, I'm aware I spent thousands of dollars on
survival stuff.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
That's probably still sitting somewhere.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
It probably is.
It was in that old metal shedin the backyard.
Oh yeah, it's probably still inthere.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
You probably could still eat that food too.
It's probably disgusting.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah, it probably was always disgusting.
I guess it's true.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Oh, but when Pat Robertson, of course, had to put
his 10 cents in about he, saidthat, he well, he did give equal
time to optimists andpessimists.
So you know, know, that'ssaying something for him, yeah,
so what did happen?

(39:17):
Okay, what happened actually?

Speaker 2 (39:20):
yeah, this is what I'm excited about that.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
No planes fell out of the sky right, but you said,
things did happen well, yeah,and here's the thing like so
obviously, australia and theother side of the world is 24
hours ahead of us.
So if you put the news on theday before when Australia was
having their, you could seenothing can happen.
And as it came across the worldand nothing was happening by

(39:44):
the time it got here, by thetime it was midnight on the East
Coast you should be prettysecure in the fact that nothing
was going to happen.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, I remember being relieved when midnight hit
in Australia.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Yeah, I remember watching it on TV.
All right, cool.
I was like we're going to watcheverything happen and nothing
happen.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Right.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Okay, so what did happen?
Planes didn't fall from the skyand nuclear missiles didn't
self-launch, despite predictionsfrom doom-mongers, although
personnel at a US trackingstation observed the launch of
three missiles from Russia.
This, however, was ahuman-ordered launch of three
Scud missiles.
As the Russian-Chechnyandispute continued to escalate,

(40:29):
two nuclear power plants inJapan developed faults that were
quickly addressed.
The faults were described asminor and non-life-threatening.
The age of the first baby bornin the new millennium in Denmark
was registered as 100.
That 100-year-old baby Bustickets in Australia were
printed with the wrong date andrejected by ticket scanning

(40:52):
hardware.
Egypt's national newswireservice failed but was
reinstated quickly.
U?
S spy satellites were knockedoff air for three days due to a
faulty patch to correct the Y2Kbug.
Several months into the twothousands, a health official in
one region of England spotted astatistic anomaly in the number

(41:13):
of children born with Downsyndrome.
The ages of 154 mothers hadbeen incorrectly calculated in
January.
Skewing test results.
The ages of these women putthem in a high-risk group, but
it wasn't detected.
If the risks had been correctlyidentified, the mothers would
have been offered anamniocentesis test.
Four children were born withDown syndrome and two

(41:35):
pregnancies were terminated.
The US Naval Observatory, whichruns the master clock that
keeps the country's officialtime, gave the date on its
website as 1 January 19,100.
Whoa, yeah, we really shot intothe future on that one Shoot.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
we all took a time capsule.
I don't think anybody had thaton their bingo card.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
The Bureau of Alcohol , tobacco, firearms and
Explosives could not registernew firearm dealers for five
days because their computersfailed to recognize the date on
the application.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
I bet that pissed a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
I was wrong about that one and this one is funny
because this was right here.
150 Delaware Lottery Racinoslot machines stopped working.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Ooh, I was working in one of the casinos and I was at
work.
Obviously, it was New Year'sEve.
I was a cocktail waitress.
You didn't have off work, yeah,so I was there when Y2K went
off.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Yeah, I don't know if it was 150 at Dover Downs or if
it was between, because I don'tthink Harrington was around yet
.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Oh yeah, they were.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Oh really, oh yeah, Did they build them all three at
the same time?

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Or right together, right together yeah, it was all
around the same time.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
I mean it, harrington used to be way smaller it was
like a barn, yeah, that theyfilled with machines.
That's when it was good so Idon't know if that was 150, like
over all three casinos.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Yeah, yeah probably because it was sounds like it
was a certain brand of slotmachines yeah, so it was
probably like the wheel offortune.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
That one's my favorite.
If I play slot machines which Ihate, but I just I only play
slot machines I put 20 in andthat gets rid of all my bad luck
right, and then you go to thetables.
Yeah and I'm not rich.
That's clearly not working outfor me, although I am gonna play
the lottery tonight becauseit's over a billion.

(43:30):
Yeah, in New York a video storeaccidentally generated a
$91,000 late fee because thestore computer determined a tape
rental was 100 years overdue,which that would not be cool.
And you know how, when you walkinto the and they're like, oh,
you owe $91,000.
Because you know it's justfucking kids working there.

(43:52):
And they're like, oh, you owe$91,000.
Because you know it's justfucking kids working there, and
they're like, oh, you owe$91,000.
And you're like, um no, I suredon't.
In Tennessee, the Y-12 NationalSecurity Complex stated that a
Y2K glitch caused an unspecifiedmalfunction in a system for
determining the weight andcomposition of nuclear
substances at a nuclear weaponsplant.

(44:14):
Although the United StatesDepartment of Energy stated they
were still able to keep trackof all the material, it was
resolved within three hours.
No one at the plant was injuredand the plant continued
carrying out its normalfunctions.
And then it created drones thatare coming for us today, just
kidding.
And then it created drones thatare coming for us today.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Just kidding.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
In Chicago.
For one day the Chicago FederalReserve Bank could not transfer
$700,000 from tax revenue.
Problem was fixed the followingday.
Additionally, another bank inChicago could not handle
electronic Medicare paymentsuntil January 6th Weeks, yeah oh
during which time the bank hadto rely on sending process

(44:54):
claims on diskettes.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Wow yeah, kicking it old school.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
In New Mexico.
The New Mexico motor vehicledecision was temporarily unable
to issue new driver's licenses.
The campaign website for theUnited States presidential
candidate Al Gore gave the dateas 3 January 19,100.
For a short time.
Go Al Gore.

(45:20):
Yeah, he invented the internet.
He should have been able to fixit.
Serial guys, Godiva Chocolatierreported that cash registers in
its American outlets failed tooperate.
Not Godiva reported that cashregisters in its American
outlets failed to operate.
Knock a diver.
The first became aware anddetermined the source of the
problem on the 2nd of Januaryand immediately began
distributing a patch.

(45:41):
A spokesman reported that theyrestored all functionality to
most of the affected registersby the end of the day and had
the rest fixed by the 3rd ofJanuary.
The credit card companiesMasterCard and Visa reported
that, as a direct result of theY2K glitch, for weeks after the
year rollover a small percentageof customers were being charged

(46:03):
multiple times for transactions.
Microsoft reported that afterthe year rollover, Hotmail
emails sent in October of 99 orearlier showed up as having been
sent in 2099.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Ooh, more time travel , yes.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Although this did not affect the email's contents or
the ability to send and receiveemails.
No, but if you were trying tosay that you are a time traveler
and you showed somebody thatemail and be like see, I have an
email from 2099.
That's how that started.
That's how that rumor started?
I fully think so.
In 2020, here's theforeshadowing Parking meters in

(46:42):
New York stopped acceptingcredit card payments.
This was attributed to the factthat they had hit the upper
bounds of their pivot year.
Oh yeah, all 14,000 parkingmeters had to be individually
visited and updated.
Shut up.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
So one good thing that did come of it, so
September 11th 2001.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
I don't know if you remember that I did not put
those words in the right order.
One good thing that came out ofit September 11th, oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
So yeah, well you'll see why?

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Okay, okay, I don't mean that way, I'm just busting
your balls.
All right, shut up All right.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
So the reason it was all the Y2K shit was good.
It's because on September 11th2001,.
The infrastructure in New YorkCity, including the subways,
phone service and financialtransaction, were able to
continue operation because ofthe redundant networks
established in the event of aY2K bug impact.

(47:45):
The terrorist attack and thefollowing prolonged blackout to
lower Manhattan had minimaleffect on global banking systems
.
Backup systems were activatedat various locations around the
region, many of which had beenestablished to deal with a
possible complete failure ofnetworks in Manhattan's
financial district on the 31stof December 1999.

(48:09):
That is good, yeah.
So like who knows what wouldhave happened?
I mean, yeah, that was good,yeah.
So like who knows what would?

Speaker 2 (48:13):
have happened.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
I mean, that was like that's scary to think about and
you never even really think ofthat Like, because it just Think
of them just as they werebuildings.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
But yeah, you think of the two buildings, but not.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Not everything that goes into what was right there.
Right, yeah, that was something, and I'm sure that's what the
terrorists were thinking theywere going to bring down our
financial district.
Yeah, so now it all makes.
Yeah 24 years later, it allmakes sense.

(48:42):
That's crazy Skeptics pointed tothe absence of Y2K related
problems occurring beforeJanuary and even through the
2000 financial year.
So they said the skeptics werelike well, but the financial
year starts earlier anyway.
So why did none of theseproblems happen?

(49:03):
Because they start in 1999 inmany jurisdictions and a wide
range of forward-lookingcalculations involved dates in
2000 and later years.
Estimates undertaken in thelead-up to 2000 suggest that
around 25% of all problemsshould have occurred before 2000
.
Yeah, because of the long-rangedates, right during 99, that

(49:28):
the absence of significantreported problems in
non-compliant small firms wasevident, that there had been and
would be no serious problemsneeding to be fixed in any firm
and that the scale of theproblem had therefore been
severely overestimated.
Also, countries such as SouthKorea, italy and Russia invested
little to nothing in Y2Kremediation yet had the same

(49:53):
negligible Y2K problems ascountries that spent enormous
amounts of money.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Joke's on you.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Western countries anticipated such severe problems
in Russia that many of themissued travel advisories and
evacuated non-essential staff.
They were so worried thatRussia did jack shit for it that
they were like oh, everybodygets to get out.
Critics also cite the lack ofY2K-related problems in schools,

(50:21):
many of which undertook littleor none.
By September 1999, only 28% ofUS schools had achieved
compliance for mission-criticalsystems, and a government report
predicted that Y2K failurescould very well plague the
computers used by schools tomanage payroll, student records,
online curricula and buildingsafety systems.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Yes, because the education system doesn't get
enough funding.
So where the hell were theysupposed to get this money to
comply To change?

Speaker 3 (50:51):
the dates dates I don't know they didn't and they
didn't do it and they didn'thave any problem their districts
probably couldn't afford itokay, but also, here's the thing
, so like I'm gonna play devil'sadvocate on that one so, but
okay, and I get it that they're.
That was critical to them, butit wasn't like worldwide, it
wasn't shutting down the grid,right.

(51:14):
So, even like I get it, therewas not widespread problems, but
it also wasn't a complicatedsystem that they were using.
True, you know what I mean.
Like it was just like youreveryday.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Like the IT guys, probably could have taken a
class and then and they mighthave.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
You know they probably just updated like two
years later.
Because you know schools, Iknow they don't get a whole lot
of money, but a lot of timesthey do update their systems
every few years.
So who knows, maybe theyupdated right before and the
problem was fixed on their own.
Bill Gates fixed it all on hisown.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
I don't know, but I don't know why it didn't anyway
all on its own.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
I don't know, but I don't know why it didn't anyway.
There were very few Y2K relatedproblems in an estimated 1.5
small businesses that undertookno remediation efforts.
But again, they were not usingmassive systems.
So January 3rd was the firstweekday of the year in 2000.

(52:16):
The Small BusinessAdministration received an
estimated 40 calls frombusinesses with computer issues
40.
Just 40.
Not bad.
And none of the problems werecritical.
But I argue, and this is my 10cents.
So everybody says, oh, it wasjust a, you know, oh, it didn't.

(52:41):
It was like this big overblownproblem and it didn't happen.
And so all this money waswasted and all of this nonsense.
But what if they did actuallyfix a problem?
exactly there was an an actualissue.
There was going to be an actualissue, and I think the problem

(53:02):
with americans especially isthat when it doesn't happen,
we're like, oh well, see youjust over, blew it, but there,
you never see all the shit thathappens to prevent it from
happening I mean when we saw allthat with covid, like
everybody's like oh covid, youknow it's gone.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Now it's not even that big a deal because we got
vaccinated.
That's why we don't have covidas as rampantly and that's just
it.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
I mean, that's the thing of it.
You know, I remember when Obamawas president, ebola we were
all going to die of Ebola.
Ebola was coming and it wasgoing to run through this
country and I watched adocumentary on it and the CDC
did so much before Ebola evengot here that it stopped it from

(53:53):
happening.
So it was like crisis averted.
And I think a lot of times thatthese overblown issues that
everybody is like, oh, that'sstupid, we spent all this money
on it, but but that's because wedidn't know what they did and
maybe that's the government'sfault, maybe that's just their
maybe planes would have fallenout of the sky if we hadn't done

(54:16):
exactly like.
Maybe they did fix and I meanthere was a legitimate problem.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
They knew it was going to be a problem yeah, and
obviously there was, becausethere was effects from it there
were, and you know they mightnot have been, and that's just
it.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
So they were just little problems that happened.
But what if these biggerproblems were just prevented?
And it seems to me that if theyknew in 1984 that it was going
to be a problem, then it wasgoing to actually be a problem
and they fixed it.
Yes, so we don't have Ebola.
No planes fell out of anywhereand we all lived through the Y2K

(54:53):
craze that was really fun.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Thanks, except for me having to share, yeah, but it's
all right.
It felt good to get it out.
It's like therapy I went.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
I went to a family reunion.
That night we had to go to mydad's side of the family family
reunion.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
I don't know why and and so you were hoping the
apocalypse.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Yes, because my dad has 13 aunts and uncles.
Yes, I think it's 13.
Yes, so it was that side of thefamily, so there's like a
kabillion of us.
Luckily it was here and Ididn't have to go anywhere, but
he forced, it was a forced, itwas forced interaction.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Can you imagine if you would have died with all
those people?

Speaker 3 (55:42):
I would have been really pissed off.
Yeah, yes, because it wasbecause we sat anyway.
We sat in a booth just the fourof us was not communicating
with anyone, because, yes,they're stupid, I don't know,
but that's what I did, and thatactually is the last time I
stayed up to watch the ball drop, 25 years ago.

(56:06):
And these people that go tolike New York to do that, no,
even when I was young.
No, I mean no.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
You literally have to stand there all day and piss
yourself.
I just, you have to wear adiaper and pee yourself and
you're cold.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
And you can't get food.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
No, no part of it, just for 10 seconds.
Well, we'll say 15, because youknow.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
So if I could afford one of those hotel rooms, with a
balcony.
I would do that, Maybe, yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
You can't afford that Exactly.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Nobody can no.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
I never really understood the excitement behind
New Year's.
Anyway, never my thing.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Yeah, I mean I used to enjoy it, but it was when it
was Dick Clark.
And now it's fucking RyanSeacrest Like will he ever go
away?
He's everywhere, I just and Idon't like the music that
probably makes me sound old, but, although a lot of it is our,
our music but it's still shittypeople.
I don't want to see them backthen.

(57:14):
I don't want to see them nowyeah, I.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
I just I don't.
It's.
It's too late at night.
I can't stay up that late andwell forever.
I had to work the next dayanyway.
I didn't.
I had to be at work by sixo'clock anyway, so I don't plus,
I've always said new year's eveis amateur night.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
It is a lot of people out drunk yeah not that people
who usually drive drunk are anybetter, but there's a lot of
people out there that do notknow what they're doing and
pretty much everybody's drunk Imean unless you have a dd or an
uber or something like that.
So it's just not worth it to goout no I and we had every day
on years.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Um morning we would, we did breakfast, you know, and
um they would do the polar bearplunge I did that one year our
restaurant was right like ablock off the beach so that was
like our, that was like thebusiest day of the winter that'd
be fun, though, yeah so wealways worked, so I didn't.
It's too late.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
It is too late.
The older I get, man, thesedays I'm ready to go to bed at
seven.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
I went to bed the other day at nine because I was
exhausted.
The cold, the cold just wearsme out.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Oh, I'm in bed by nine every night.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
Well, I try to stay out till 10.
That's why, when you text me atlike 9, 13 which is such a turn
of events, because when we wereyounger she would try and talk
to me at nine I'd be like bitch,I'm in bed.
I've been in bed asleep forhours yeah, I can't hang anymore
all right, I can't.
It's just the the cold the lastweek has just been.

(58:53):
It's standing out there andit's the wind has been whipping
and it's just.
I know it's not zero degrees,but it's cold enough and the the
air here is is wet and thick.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
It's and it's typically gray and seasonal
depression.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
And we are.
I call it the windy season.
Once we hit November, it juststays windy and there's just
differing levels of wind.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
We can't have wind in the summer.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
No, we're burning up, no, and then it just one day in
May, may it just stops beingwindy until november yeah, and
then it's 107, yes, and thenit's just not as humid as can be
and you can feel the air youhave to like cut through the air
literally yeah, it's not,they're not fun.
But so now we're in the windyseason and the cold blows right

(59:50):
through me and I I heard itsnowed somewhere up here, yeah,
up north, yeah, mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Yeah, when my nephew went into his postal job up
north today.
He sent the family the grouptext that he was.
The weather was better.
It was snowing and stuff upthere and one of our family
members in Arizona was like oh,send a picture.
He's like it's rainet, snow,hail shit, just garbage.

(01:00:14):
It's nothing pretty yourtypical not sending it typical
delaware delaware nonsense.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Yeah, it's I.
I got um, um.
I was sitting on the couch andI got the notification snow will
end in you know 10 minutes inyour area and I was like, wait,
it's snowing in my hair.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
I went outside.
It wasn't, it was a pack oflies, it was.
It was supposed to snow herethis morning too.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
It didn't I was, I was.
I do like snow.
I don't like snow at my job,but I do like snow it is pretty
yeah, okay, anyway, that's thatabout that so that was all Y2K.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Yep, so Merry Christmas to everybody, or Happy
Holidays.
Hanukkah starts tomorrow too, Ithink.
Oh, really.
So Happy Hanukkah to our Jewishfriends, and whatever else that
you celebrate.
I just hope you have a niceweek.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
I'm going to make a holiday where we worship the
Grinch Grinchmas.
No week I'm gonna.
I'm gonna make a holiday likewhere we worship the grinch.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Grinch, miss no you can add all the characters that
you like.
You can have jack, okay,exactly that sounds good.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Yeah, maybe I'll come and watch that okay anyway, I
have to watch die hard tonightoh yeah, and then everybody has
to watch what you call ittomorrow.
I don't watch it I.
What is tomorrow was it was noum, you'll shoot your eye out.
Oh, christmas story I never.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
That's not my movie no it's just not that my family
ever watched, so it just doesn'thave that over and it's on I
mean I've seen it and I've hadit on the TV in the middle.
I know the story, Like I knowthe characters, but it's just
not one I need to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Ho, ho ho.
You'll shoot your eye out.
Don't shoot your eye out,everybody.
You don't need a Red Ryder BBgun.
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